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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, August. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hours presented by the Fields Auto Group, and now

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Speaker 1: a guy who believes one of the greatest free agency

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Speaker 1: acquisitions of is Brooks. J. P. Shadrick. I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's any doubt about that. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: presented by the Fields Auto Group. JP. Shatterrick with you,

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Speaker 1: and we've got a program for you today, keeping the

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Speaker 1: team healthy in a different type of training camp. Will

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Speaker 1: get into maintenance days and what the organization has done

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Speaker 1: a couple of times so far in training camp to

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Speaker 1: keep guys healthy going into the regular season. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: up that defensive line some so many changes there, But

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Speaker 1: to Jason Rebovitch, the defensive line coaches you would expect,

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Speaker 1: is excited about the group he has to work with.

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Speaker 1: Have they figured out the left tackle position? We'll hear

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Speaker 1: from George Warhofy, offensive line coach as well, and we'll

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Speaker 1: go around the National Football League. John Osier is with

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Speaker 1: us as always, Bucky Brooks is with us as always,

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Speaker 1: and I gotta John. I must say I think Joe

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Speaker 1: of Fortunato, who does our open was right that this

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Speaker 1: acquisition of Bucky Brooks and free agency. It doesn't get

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Speaker 1: any bigger than that, John Well, I mean not just

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Speaker 1: this offseason, but here. I mean, if Bucky, then maybe

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Speaker 1: Klais Leon, sarahc Keena Macarille the Buckey number one, no doubt,

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Speaker 1: no doubt that. Yeah, used to feel, but hey, Bucky's

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Speaker 1: the guy to do it, man, That's how it works.

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Speaker 1: So uh new, what's new this week? Bucky? You're you're

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Speaker 1: out in California. We got another week under our belt

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Speaker 1: with looking around the National Football League here, just big picture,

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Speaker 1: we're another week closer to the season, and it seems

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Speaker 1: like most everybody in the league, at least COVID nineteen

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Speaker 1: wise is healthy. That's another week in the books, and

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Speaker 1: that's a good sign, Bucky. Yeah, it is a good

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Speaker 1: sign that we're able to get through this without a

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Speaker 1: lot of tests pop popping up. It says that the

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Speaker 1: protocols are working. It also says that the players are

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Speaker 1: taken everything seriously. So I'm more optimistic now than ever

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Speaker 1: that we're not only going to get the kick off,

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna have an alt stand this season. They

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Speaker 1: may not have any hiccups, John, is pretty remarkable to

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Speaker 1: see those numbers that they put out the other day,

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Speaker 1: the league said they were like fifty something thousand tests

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Speaker 1: and of eight thousand different people and zero players tested positives. That,

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Speaker 1: as Bucky said, they're taking it seriously. Now, you just

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Speaker 1: got to get to the starting line and then to

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Speaker 1: the finish line after that. John, that's still a lot

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Speaker 1: to ask, But so far, so good. Well, I thought

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Speaker 1: from day one that the I mean, I think everybody

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Speaker 1: cause a lot of brush fires into me. You mean,

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Speaker 1: they were gonna be teams that had multiple players report,

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Speaker 1: and the media was gonna go, you know, and I'm

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Speaker 1: criticizing what I used to do obviously, but we're gonna say,

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Speaker 1: oh my goodness, that it will never work. And it

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Speaker 1: was always going to be this period, except it sort

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Speaker 1: of told the tale of training camp. Once they got

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Speaker 1: into the pseudo bubble, how did it work? And I

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Speaker 1: can hear all the naysayers already because you see him

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. Well, this doesn't mean anything. It's whatever happens

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Speaker 1: during the regular season. But how to understand this is

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Speaker 1: pretty close to zero right now in this bubble. I

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Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be some flare ups. But I'm

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Speaker 1: like Bucky, even more so than in June July. I'm

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Speaker 1: really starting to think that they're gonna pull this thing

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Speaker 1: more than ever, UH players are taking precautions to make

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Speaker 1: sure they protect their teammates. John and your podcast This

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Speaker 1: Wee the ozone podcast. Bucky has been a guest on

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Speaker 1: athletic trainer, and Cassie. You tell what did you find out?

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Speaker 1: What was the biggest piece of that conversation that stood

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Speaker 1: probably the biggest takeaway, or the biggest thing I was

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Speaker 1: and I guess more than any specific takeaway from anything

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Speaker 1: educating the players every day, because you've got a lot

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Speaker 1: of young guys, and as Bucky knows, football players who

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Speaker 1: That if you know that, Bucky, but they're probably not

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Speaker 1: they they've had to try to get the players to listen.

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Speaker 1: players are taking this very seriously. They get it, and

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Speaker 1: then it goes it goes back to them we talked

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Speaker 1: They realized that their livelihoods, the season, livelihoods of others

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Speaker 1: be done. Yeah, John, it's funny that you you talk

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Speaker 1: to be very, very professional. We have to take this serious,

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Speaker 1: You know, of all the possible stories like that, Bucky,

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Speaker 1: that's really the only two I've heard of instances like that,

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Speaker 1: which kind of speaks to our point. The players for

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Speaker 1: of things here. And we discussed this a little bit

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Speaker 1: on Monday night with Pete Prisco and Tony Boselli on

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. But that the idea of maintenance days.

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Speaker 1: The other day, Bucky, there were twenty four Jaguars players

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Speaker 1: much work done inside than they would have had in

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Speaker 1: he st on, he's tough, he's physical. More importantly, he

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Speaker 1: has experienced and when you put an explosive, energetic player

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Speaker 1: like him, besides a Tavin Bryant who's also energetic and

431
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Speaker 1: explosive man, you now could have problem on your hands.

432
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Speaker 1: And just know everyone that has been down on Bryant.

433
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Speaker 1: The light for young players typically goes off in their

434
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Speaker 1: third year. We finally could see him realize his first

435
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Speaker 1: round talent this season as the game settles down and

436
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Speaker 1: slows down for him. Another guy that you mentioned earlier

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Speaker 1: like he was to want Smoot and former, well it

438
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Speaker 1: was just now his fourth year in the NFL, which

439
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Speaker 1: is crazy to think about. But he he talked this

440
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Speaker 1: week about you know, he's trying to figure out what

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Speaker 1: he actually is. Is he a big end? Is he

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Speaker 1: a Russian? They moved him around a little bit, and

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Speaker 1: you know, towards the end of last season you started

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Speaker 1: to see him take some strides. What did you see

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Speaker 1: out of him coming out in the draft And how

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Speaker 1: difficult is that sometimes when maybe you have been moved

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Speaker 1: around earlier in career, to find out who you what

448
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Speaker 1: kind of player you really are. Yeah, it's really hard

449
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Speaker 1: because when you really talented, UH, coaches imagination sometimes can

450
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Speaker 1: run wild. They can say, hey, he's a big end,

451
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Speaker 1: he can go inside, he can do a bunch of

452
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Speaker 1: different things. And I think for smoothness understanding where do

453
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Speaker 1: I fit in the puzzle? Can I master my craft

454
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Speaker 1: at one situation, I think he's more of a big

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Speaker 1: and I think given what they're lacking, I think you

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Speaker 1: want to see if he can be that based defensive ent.

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Speaker 1: And then because Josh Allen is a uniquely talented player,

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Speaker 1: with his athleticism and his traits, you want to leave

459
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Speaker 1: him kind of as the open side, the LEO player,

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Speaker 1: the guy that can kind of run and rush and

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Speaker 1: do a bunch of different things. And so I believe

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Speaker 1: in this defense Smooth his best position to be a

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Speaker 1: based in to play outside, to kind of be the

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Speaker 1: heavy handed player against him run. He didn't get the

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Speaker 1: memot like he didn't get the can't say Leo, Bucky

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Speaker 1: can't say Leo around here and many But in terms

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Speaker 1: of Smoot, I'll tell you what he is. He's exactly

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Speaker 1: what good defensive lines in this league need. He's not

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Speaker 1: necessarily a front line starter. I don't think he's going

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Speaker 1: to Pro Bowl then he's getting twelve sacks. But what

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Speaker 1: he was sort of talking about when he talked to

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Speaker 1: Think it was yesterday, not really knowing what he is.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars know he is. He's a guy who can

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Speaker 1: play all those spots. Four guys never play on the

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Speaker 1: defensive line in the NFL. Good defensive lines has six, seven,

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Speaker 1: eight guys. Think of the Giants when they beat the

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Speaker 1: Patriots and Super Bowl. You can come in waves. That's

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Speaker 1: what Smoot gives them. He is a guy. If you're

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Speaker 1: a good defensive line, you've got a few Dwyane Smoots,

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Speaker 1: because you've got guys who are necessarily superstars, but they're

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Speaker 1: really good and they produced when they're in the game.

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Speaker 1: But he's not a Leo. He's not a Leo. I

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Speaker 1: got that leon does not exist a board point point taking.

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Speaker 1: But here's what I say, Jock, as you make a

485
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Speaker 1: good observation, and I think a lot of people are

486
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Speaker 1: so used to thinking that a defensive line has to

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Speaker 1: have guys that ring up these double digit sacks. But

488
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Speaker 1: you can get away with it if you do it

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Speaker 1: by committee. So let's just say Smooth is able to

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Speaker 1: get you six or seven, Brian gives you four or five.

491
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Speaker 1: Journal again gets you four or five. But then at

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Speaker 1: the end of the year, if you're sitting around forty five,

493
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: that's a very productive year for a defensive line. Josh

494
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Speaker 1: Allen has to carry the weight and maybe you get

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Speaker 1: something from somebody else. But if the rest of the

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Speaker 1: guys can give you four or five apiece that is

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Speaker 1: more than enough to be an effective unit, particularly against

498
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Speaker 1: the past. Let's hear from one of the newest members

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Speaker 1: of that defensive line unit, Calevan Chason, first round draft pick,

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Speaker 1: and you know, it'd be nice to have him obviously

501
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Speaker 1: contribute to some of those numbers this year, But learning

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Speaker 1: how to do that, he says, won't be much of

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Speaker 1: an issue. I feel like I'm a se lerated learner.

504
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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to you know, God, get to anybody else.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like the way I learned things, it's

506
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Speaker 1: not really hard for me to pick up on anything

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Speaker 1: when it's academically a football like you, um, you gave

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Speaker 1: it to me on the playbook, on the video film,

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Speaker 1: on the field right then and there. I pick up

510
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Speaker 1: fast and I learned quick. So that's never really kind

511
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Speaker 1: of been anything, no learning curve hell back for me.

512
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Speaker 1: I kind of just been putting in the work every

513
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Speaker 1: day when it comes to watching film or studying the

514
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Speaker 1: playbook or even being on the field. I'm taking a

515
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Speaker 1: step by step, day by day and just trying to

516
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Speaker 1: learn from everything. Bucky, I'll start with you here on

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Speaker 1: Chase on. You know, his sample size of L s

518
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Speaker 1: U were somewhat limited because of injury down there, and

519
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: he's still a very young man, um So what did

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Speaker 1: you make when he was out there? Obviously, and you know,

521
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: being that locked in as he says he is, that

522
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Speaker 1: can only help a young player when he's trying to

523
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Speaker 1: transition to a new league like this one. Yeah, look, Jason,

524
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Speaker 1: is it else an athlete? Looking back at my nose,

525
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: I talked about being an urgent athlete. He was energetic,

526
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Speaker 1: did a great job of running and chasing and playing

527
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Speaker 1: from snap to whistle. The thing that he is right

528
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 1: now is he's a newbie when it comes to being

529
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: a pass rusher meeting. He doesn't have the full repertoire

530
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Speaker 1: pastor skills to be able to really throw a bunch

531
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Speaker 1: of different pitches at blockers. That said, his first step

532
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: quickness and his verse, he can be a guy that

533
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: was very effective similar to Yannicking Gockway when he came

534
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: into the league. He may not have everything at his disposal,

535
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: but his speed, energy and tempo could enable him to

536
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Speaker 1: be a guy against eight to ten sacks just playing

537
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Speaker 1: on sheer talent. You put that opposite of Josh Allen

538
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Speaker 1: because he is going to command double teams. He can

539
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Speaker 1: win one on ones and that could be enough to

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00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: be a contributing factor right away as a rookie. It

541
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Speaker 1: sounds John like what Josh Allen was last year. You know,

542
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: if you're hearing Jeff Logavan say it in the last

543
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: week or so, Allen on talent alone got a lot

544
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: of those sacks last year. Now you're starting to put

545
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Speaker 1: some some pass rush moves together with that. John, that's

546
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: a big difference. Yeah. And as far as Chase and

547
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: you know, he has this athletic ability that jumps off

548
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: the page when you're watching practice. You know, if you

549
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: do anything about football, your eyes are drawn to him

550
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: and you say, who's that guy? He looks different than

551
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Speaker 1: everybody else. I think what's most encouraging for me on Chason.

552
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to talk to him face

553
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Speaker 1: to face to all the COVID stuff, but in listening

554
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: to him in a few interviews and then making some

555
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: calls and talking to people who have dealt with him

556
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Speaker 1: inside the organization, his ability to communicate his maturity. JP.

557
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Speaker 1: You remember this from Josh Allen last year. As soon

558
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Speaker 1: as Josh walked in the building, he felt different. When

559
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Speaker 1: you talked to him, you knew he was going to

560
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: gravitate the calais. You knew he was going to do

561
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: the right thing. And he held that all season, showing

562
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Speaker 1: maturity on many different ways that I don't see very

563
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: often from He's from what you hear, Halevan is that

564
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: thing kind of kid. To me, that's the key. There's

565
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: no question about his athletic ability. If he combines that

566
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Speaker 1: with this Josh Allen type maturity, that's what makes Josh

567
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: the whole package. Boy, then you've got something special out

568
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: of those two guys. It's too early to know on

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00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: Calevan yet, but those signs to me are even more

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Speaker 1: encouraging than what you see on the field because those

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Speaker 1: signs mean he's gonna take advantage of his God given talent. Yeah,

572
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Speaker 1: I agree with you, John, because he does have god

573
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Speaker 1: get given talent. This was a big time basketball player

574
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: coming up, someone who is still I would say, kind

575
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Speaker 1: of new to the game in the position as it

576
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: comes to being a pass rusher. But the reason I

577
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: think is really important to talk about yannicking Goquay is

578
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: because no one expected in Goqui to be the player

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Speaker 1: that he emerged as for the Jaguars when he was

580
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: drafted out of Maryland. I'm gonna say Chason is a

581
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: more explosive, dynamic and athletic um prospect coming out now.

582
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: It may take him a while to put it together,

583
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Speaker 1: but there's no reason why early in his career he

584
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Speaker 1: can't be a contributor despite not really knowing what he's

585
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: doing coming off the edge. He's a better run player. Yes,

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Speaker 1: then in way was coming out, I think as it

587
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: made him a first round pick, and but you assume

588
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: it will be much stouter against the run in his career. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think so. I think he has a lot of

590
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: talent you're now putting him. And also this, i think

591
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: the observation was made by both of you guys. You

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00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: talked about his maturity. Because now Josh Allen is the

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Speaker 1: leader of their room, we'll just assume he's the leader

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Speaker 1: that de line room. That competition is going to force

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Speaker 1: Jason to step up his game because of the way

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Speaker 1: that he talks about wanting to get it. He is

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Speaker 1: going to be in Josh Allen's hip pocket. I think

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Speaker 1: that bowls well for the Jaguars. Not in but in

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Speaker 1: two and beyond. All right, let's I like that. That's

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Speaker 1: a that's a good sign for the organization for sure,

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Speaker 1: and and and don't fret about the defensive line. According

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Speaker 1: The biggest thing from Mer from last year to now

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Speaker 1: is he can take all the practice he's out there

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Speaker 1: and all the practice he's taken, all the reps. Uh

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Speaker 1: there's been uh been to this point. No issues with

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Speaker 1: him physically, uh So, I mean he can just keep

646
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Speaker 1: going and getting better and we don't have to worry

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Speaker 1: about managing him like we did last year. It's George Warhop,

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Speaker 1: the offensive line coach for the Jags, and the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: the stadium on Saturday for scrimmage. But there you have it.

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Speaker 1: There's a look at the practice fields for now. Players

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Speaker 1: off day today, Welcome back, j P Shadrick, Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 1: John Oser, Jaguars. Happy our rolls along. And there has

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Speaker 1: been a little bit of a development at the offensive

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Speaker 1: line since we last spoke Bucky, and that was the

657
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Speaker 1: development George Warhop saying, well, yeah, he's important, Cam Robinson,

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Speaker 1: because he's gonna be our starting left tackle. We had

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Speaker 1: talked and there's been a little rumble of some competition

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Speaker 1: you know, in camp. But Cam Robinson, at least Warhop

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00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: said it, you know, has played the position much more obviously,

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Speaker 1: and coming into camp was way ahead of Will Richardson.

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Speaker 1: Now Richardson's working his way into and being comfortable at

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Speaker 1: left tackle, but Cam Robinson is the guy. And I

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Speaker 1: will say the other day, it must have been yesterday

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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson and one on ones against Josh Allen. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he lost against Josh Allen yesterday. So you

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Speaker 1: see a guy who's motivated, who's in pretty good shape, who,

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Speaker 1: reporting to Tony Boselli, has worked on his footwork and

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Speaker 1: things are going well for Cam Robinson. That's a good sign, Bucky, Yeah,

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00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: that is a very good sign. To to hear those things.

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Speaker 1: To hear uh, Jory's talking about what he's doing, him

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Speaker 1: being in trench at left tackle, Tony Basselli talking about

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Speaker 1: his improved footwork. Because coming out of Alabama this was

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Speaker 1: a ball apprawl. This was someone who was expected to

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Speaker 1: be really a key player more as a run blocker

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00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: than as a pass protector, and so a lot of

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00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: how effective he will be we'll really depend on the

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00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: design of the offense. Will we see the Jaguars commit

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00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: the running to football. It's been a lot of time

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Speaker 1: going forward with the offensive line instead of backbeddling, because

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Speaker 1: if we see them go forward, would they run throw

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Speaker 1: offflay action. I think we will see the best version

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Speaker 1: of Cam Robinson this season. John, how about the George

685
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Speaker 1: warhop there and and and Cam's development over time? Here?

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Speaker 1: You know this is this is a line you can

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Speaker 1: start left tackle all the way across. They're all back

688
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: from last year. But that's been the focus I think

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00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: of a lot of conversation in the offense. Uh, this

690
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: whole offseason is that left tackle position. And here it

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Speaker 1: is contract year for Cam coming up. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: my question that it prompted the answer and Bucky, as

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not the first time that one of

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Speaker 1: my questions has been absolutely laughed at with this Dane

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Speaker 1: the way he did it. Uh. I wonder with Cam

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Speaker 1: Robinson if we fully grasp as non players something like

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Speaker 1: JP and I, how much the A C L can

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Speaker 1: set you back and how much of an issue it

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Speaker 1: can be to try to return from that. The following season,

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Speaker 1: war Hoop talked about the biggest infen between Cam is

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Speaker 1: he's able to practice every day. They're not maintaining him,

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Speaker 1: to use that word, but they're not trying just to

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Speaker 1: get him on the field. It sounds for listen to

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Speaker 1: war up in Moron that there were many games last

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Speaker 1: season where they were just trying to get Cam. I

706
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: think it was Marone used the word just trying to

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Speaker 1: get him to survive. Um, if that's what's going on,

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Speaker 1: If he's back to where he was trying to get

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Speaker 1: to before the injury, and if fa Celi is right

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Speaker 1: that he has improved that much, then he is the

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Speaker 1: key to the whole thing, then maybe that's what was

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Speaker 1: missing last year. Bucky, I'm curious if if you think

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Speaker 1: most fans grasp how difficult it can be for a

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Speaker 1: player when he's not able to practice a hundred percent

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Speaker 1: the way Cam Wasn't you know, it's a huge challenge

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Speaker 1: coming off in a c L injury. Normally, John and

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Speaker 1: JP it takes about two years before you see that

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Speaker 1: player returned to the form that we saw him prior

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Speaker 1: to the injury. For Cam. This would be the first offseason.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this would be the off season where he

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Speaker 1: was able to actually work on his skills, meaning his

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Speaker 1: fundamentals and footwork instead of rehabbing. That makes a huge

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Speaker 1: difference in his development. One of the reasons why he

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Speaker 1: is more comfortable in practice now is because even though

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Speaker 1: they didn't have a true or traditional offseason, he was

726
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Speaker 1: able to do football stuff as opposed to rehab. That

727
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: has made the difference. And don't underestimate the confidence coming

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Speaker 1: back in terms of the confidence in the knee. He

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00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: now knows he can make all the movements. When you

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Speaker 1: have that twins of doubt, a lot of times you're

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Speaker 1: thinking about your leg and you can't think about the

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Speaker 1: technique better or even the opponent that you're facing. Now

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Speaker 1: he's able to really focus on the football part of

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Speaker 1: playing the position. Let's touch on one of the new

735
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: editions on the offensive line this year, Ben BArch Division

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Speaker 1: three player from St. John's up in Minnesota, and he

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00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: first came Bucky on a lot of our radars because

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Speaker 1: it was Smoothie at the draft. You know, not many

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Speaker 1: at least around here, I don't think watch Division three football.

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Speaker 1: Um how well known was he in the scouting community

741
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: going into the draft, and you know, it seems like

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00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: so far he's been able to do certain things in

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Speaker 1: camp that make you say, Okay, this guy has a

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Speaker 1: future of some kind. Don't know exactly what it is yet,

745
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: but um, how does he continue to develop and when

746
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: did he When did you first hear about Ben BArch Well?

747
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: Obviously on the All Star circuit his name was prominent

748
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Speaker 1: because you don't find many D three players that are

749
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Speaker 1: able to play at EASTAI in college All Star games,

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00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: and then when you have an opportunity to watch him play,

751
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: he's competitive, he battled, he didn't look like the game

752
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: was too big for him. And so the biggest transition

753
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: that you have to worry about when you get a

754
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: player that is playing coming from playing D three ball

755
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: to now playing in the National Football League, how long

756
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: does it take him to get acclimated to the speed, tempo,

757
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: and strength and power of the game and the opponents

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00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: that he faces. By all accounts, he's been able to

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00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: hold his own and so it may be ugly at

760
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: times this year as he's transitioning, but as he settles in.

761
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Speaker 1: This was a player there was a dominant player on

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Speaker 1: the D three level. If he can settle in and

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Speaker 1: kind of have that confidence, he can be a very

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Speaker 1: solid player on the interior. John. I was interested to

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Speaker 1: see him in person just to see is he just

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Speaker 1: a skinny guy that put on a bunch of weight.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think he's that. I think he's broader

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Speaker 1: than I expected just in general. And then he put

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Speaker 1: on all the weight with that, Well so are you

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Speaker 1: and I j B. So that's uh, he's with that

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Speaker 1: right with us. He Uh, he's not overwhelmed at all.

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Speaker 1: And I think the key to him not being overwhelmed

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Speaker 1: is as you said, he fits physically. Uh. Had he

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Speaker 1: played at Division one school in the last couple of

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00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: years that he transferred when I was, I think he

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00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: would have done fine. I talked to him one in

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Speaker 1: a and th own conversation that we did he was

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Speaker 1: mayor June talked to him face to face. What I

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00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: was impressed with with him is he sort of understood

780
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Speaker 1: the line of questioning about Hey, it's gonna be about

781
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Speaker 1: transitioning from Division three, it's gonna be about all those

782
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: things he's always heard, and he's not hockey about it.

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Speaker 1: But you got the feeling that it didn't surprise him

784
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785
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: there was pressure because it's always pressure. It's it's it's

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Speaker 1: the biggest moment of his life. But once he got

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Speaker 1: out there, that sort of went away, and he wasn't

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Speaker 1: surprised to be competing at that level. I don't think

789
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: he's surprised that he's holding his own against these NFL players.

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00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 1: He did very well against Journey in the first day.

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Speaker 1: He's lost a couple and one on ones. But I

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Speaker 1: look at him as a guy, I don't think he's

793
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Speaker 1: ready to start immediately. It wouldn't surprise me if he's

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Speaker 1: pushing a j can By somewhere during the season. And

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Speaker 1: I think if forced to play, I think this guy

796
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Speaker 1: will do okay because I don't think the acclamation is

797
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Speaker 1: gonna take him as long as maybe conventional wisdom says

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Speaker 1: about a Division three player. I agree. I don't think

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Speaker 1: And I think he also will be as good as

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Speaker 1: the company that he keeps around him. We talk about

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Speaker 1: a j Ken Andrew North like he has a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys that he can learn and draw from. And

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Speaker 1: if he's thrown in there um due to an injury

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00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,160
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Speaker 1: I think he will understand how to perform. And I

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Speaker 1: they can support him as he's beginning to work through

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Speaker 1: with some reason, if you're not for some reason, you're

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Speaker 1: making I lost the Josh Allen wearing a microphone during

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Speaker 1: trading camp practice before Mike Dumb segment will be available

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Speaker 1: later tonight on at Jaguars social media, Jaguars dot Com,

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00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: and Jaguar's YouTube. Josh Allen We've touched on him a

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00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 1: moment ago, but you see a little bit of personality there.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour, JP, Shadrick, Bucky Brooks, John Os,

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Speaker 1: You're glad you're along with US today, UH and Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour is brought to you by the Fields Cadillac

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Speaker 1: Group in Jacksonville and Fields Cadillac St. Augustina, members of

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Speaker 1: the Fields Auto Group. Let's go around. But before we

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Speaker 1: go around the league, Bucky, did you ever wear a

864
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 1: microphone during a game when you played Curious? I never

865
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to wear a microphone, but I would

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Speaker 1: have loved it. I would have loved to have like

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Speaker 1: a running dialogue for everyone to hear my inner thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it always would have been positive.

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Speaker 1: Would have been a lot of fun for me to

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Speaker 1: share an express Maybe they have to put it on cable,

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00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: not over the air. I have a question. Yes, of

872
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: course I would nobody who want to hear it? But um,

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00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: Josh Allen I never going around the league. I've said

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00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: it before, but every time I see the kid, to me,

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00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 1: he is the hope for this franchise and Bucky talked

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00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: about earlier in the show. I am as excited and

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00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: optimistic about the franchise because of him. I didn't cover

878
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: Peyton's rookie year in India, covered him for ten years

879
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: after that. To me, Josh Allen is the best young

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00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: player the Jaguars have had in terms of culture everything

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00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: you want, uh, maybe since Bisselli back in the day,

882
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: maybe since Fred Taylor, maybe since guys like that. He

883
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: is unbelievable in terms of what you want to see.

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00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: To me, he's the reason that I have hoped for

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00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: this franchise. Three unbelievable model draft pick to me, you know,

886
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: John said piggyback off of that. Coaches will always tell

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Speaker 1: you the best teams, the best players are their hardest workers.

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Speaker 1: And so Josh Allen is going to carry currency in

889
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: that locker room because he not only has a production,

890
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: he has the performance, but also the way he goes

891
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: about his business. The young players that walk into that

892
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: locker room will now step up their game because they

893
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: know the best player always has his engine running hot

894
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: when he steps onto the field. So check out Josh

895
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: Allen Mike up coming up a little later tonight on

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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com, the Jaguars YouTube accounting at Jaguars on

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Speaker 1: social media. Let's go around the National Football League. The

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00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals made Buddha Baker the highest paid safety in

899
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Speaker 1: NFL history four years, fifty nine million dollars in the extension.

900
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: But Bucky, he has exactly zero career interception. What's interceptions?

901
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: What gives? Oh, it speaks to the changing dynamic of

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00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 1: the safety position. We have seen it. Uh, These safeties

903
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: that are dropping down in the box, playing like linebacks

904
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 1: and doing a bunch of different things tackles, sacks, forced fumbles,

905
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Speaker 1: being able to get around the ball and a varie

906
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: of different ways. Those things matter much more than just interceptions.

907
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: That the safe the position a lot of money for safety. John. Yeah,

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00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: good day to be a friend of him, And I'm

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00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: calling him if I know it's you need. I think

910
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 1: you need greatness at that position. These days, Cardinals are

911
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: clearly paying for it. It brings you back to the Jaguars.

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00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: I hope they can get some level of play out

913
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: of that position for them this year. I think it's key.

914
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Speaker 1: The Detroit Lions yesterday decided to forego practice to protest

915
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: the shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Uh. It's

916
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: the most public display I think from in the NFL

917
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Speaker 1: team since that moment just a few days ago. Bucky,

918
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Speaker 1: this is obviously a huge time for protests and things

919
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: of that sort around these type situations, But it's another

920
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: situations and the Lions decided to take a big step,

921
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: and that is a big step to skip a practice. Yeah.

922
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: I think it's a big step. And what I think

923
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,919
Speaker 1: we're seeing and learning his map, Patrician is really trying

924
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: to do a better job of connecting with the locker room.

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00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: Whenever you had these player lad things and everyone was

926
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: filling on board, including the coaches, it kind of brings

927
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Speaker 1: the team together, much like we saw some of the

928
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: protests that took place in Jacksonville and the team went

929
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: out to support. Those things can bring your luck room

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Speaker 1: together if handled in the right way. Yeah, John D.

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Speaker 1: Bucky's point there. We saw it firsthand with Doug Marone

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Speaker 1: and the Jaguars getting together this offseason too, to go

933
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Speaker 1: to the police station and go downtown and do these

934
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Speaker 1: things together. Yeah. And I think you're going to see

935
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Speaker 1: more of it. I get there are fans who emailed

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Speaker 1: the time, Hey, I don't want to see this. I

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00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: want this as a break. The reality is athletics, sports

938
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Speaker 1: and politics, culture, whatever you call it, have combined for years.

939
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: Players it's okay for them to have opinions and actions

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Speaker 1: on things they feel passionately about. Here's our weekly Joe

941
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Speaker 1: Judge segments in New York. Today, he said that the

942
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Speaker 1: Giants have thought about taking Daniel Jones's red jersey off

943
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: to quote pop his pads a little bit before the

944
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: season opener. Uh, they said there aren't going to throw

945
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: him into the quote royal rumble or anything. Bucky, what

946
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: in the world is this about? And look, man, Joe Judge,

947
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: are you trying to establish a new identity for the

948
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Speaker 1: New York Giants. He wants to be a tough team.

949
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Speaker 1: He wants to be projected as a tough minded coach.

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00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: But this would be stupid. And I mean, this is

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00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 1: this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. To expose

952
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: your quarterback, the most important position on the field, to

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00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: unnecessary It's I don't understand why jo would even consider that.

954
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: They want to play football for New York the football Giants. John, Yeah,

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00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: what's next? Put him in the Oklahoma draw? I mean,

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00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: it's it's ah. I doubt he'll actually do it. You

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00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: would think if they do do it, it would be

958
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Speaker 1: one play and get him out to serve a point.

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00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 1: But I agree with Buddy, I mean, I agree with Bucky.

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Speaker 1: Come on, come on, A couple of final thoughts here.

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Speaker 1: Bengals quarterback mackenzie Alexander left the team after his father

962
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Speaker 1: wouldn't missing and call your county, Florida. That's deep southwest Florida,

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00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: Naples area. Uh. And he was later arrested on one

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Speaker 1: count of battery allegedly confronted the man who left behind

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Speaker 1: his father on a berry picking trip. This thing is

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Speaker 1: still up in the air. He's I think about to

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Speaker 1: be or has just been released on bond, so he's

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Speaker 1: gonna help the search. That's a it's a tragic story.

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00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: Hopefully it ends positively bucky, but that's a it's a

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00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: crazy situation for him right now. Yes, certainly you're crazy

971
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Speaker 1: since you waste and uh thoughts and prayers the McKenzie

972
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Speaker 1: Alexander and his family Hopefully they can find his dad.

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Speaker 1: But I wouldn't condone the behavior. But I do understand

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Speaker 1: if two guys go on a very picking trip and

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Speaker 1: only one returns and the one that returns didn't bring

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Speaker 1: the other, I mean, I can understand why McKenzie Alexander

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Speaker 1: was very upset when he saw. Yeah, that's a this

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Speaker 1: is a that's a strange one there, and just that

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Speaker 1: we hope that things end well, John, I'm interested in

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Speaker 1: your commentary on this next one. The league is considering

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Speaker 1: the use of artificial crowd noise in the range of

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00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 1: seventy to eighty five decibels for games without fans present.

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Speaker 1: It would likely be constant throughout the game. What do

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Speaker 1: you make of it? Yeah, I guess I'll have to

985
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: hear it and see it. At first. I kind of

986
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Speaker 1: get the instinct um you know, I'm I'm hesitant on it.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, I think it would be equally

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Speaker 1: weird to sit there as a fan and watch a

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Speaker 1: game where they're complete silence. So you know, I haven't

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00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: played in quite Frankly, I often prefer silence because I'm

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Speaker 1: in the press box and trying to concentrate. I would

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00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: be more interested in hear what Bucky, Who's played, Who's

993
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: who's in that environment. In that world, it doesn't bother

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00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: me to have silent, but I'm usually in a very

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00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: working capacity at the game. Bucky. I mean, I think

996
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: it's I think it's weird to have piped in noise.

997
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: We've seen it work a little bit in the bubble,

998
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: but I think at the end of the day, it

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00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. I think once players get in and

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00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 1: they see the opposing team, they kind of lock into

1001
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: the competition. Maybe from a TV viewing perspective, it helps,

1002
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: but I don't know. It's all kind of weird when

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00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: it's it's like a video game. To me, I can

1004
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: see piping in for the broadcast makes a little more sense,

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00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: I guess. But I guess I'll have to see and

1006
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: understand it more to have a hot take on it. JP.

1007
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: But we've well, some teams might have experience already with it.

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00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: We've seen some stories. I just said that. I just

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00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: said that, Bucky um So that we and it's with

1010
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: without fans present. So the Jaguars by that would not

1011
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: be involved in this because they're planning on having fans

1012
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: present for the game. That's our look around the National

1013
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: Football League. Bucky, we fooled him again, John, we did it. Yeah,

1014
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to keep up with Buck. No, no, no,

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00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: we did. You guys make me take my game up

1016
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: and that I'm challenged. I'm challenged every week. I love it. Well,

1017
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: we're just getting started. We're two down and uh a

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00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: whole bunch to go on Wednesdays. We appreciate it as always,

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00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: John will look forward to your riding throughout the week.

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Speaker 1: Bucky will catch up with you again next week. Thanks

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Speaker 1: to our entire crew For Bucky and John, I'm J. P. Shadrick.

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Speaker 1: We'll got you next week. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network.