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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts now.

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Speaker 2: But what you're seeing right now, Sean, is a military

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Speaker 2: under President Trump's leadership that's not fighting politically correct, that

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Speaker 2: isn't fighting with his hands tied behind its back. One

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Speaker 2: of the reasons I fear, Sean that some people in

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Speaker 2: this country lost faith in the military and the capacity

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Speaker 2: to use that military to defend us is because we

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Speaker 2: had a woke pentagon, because we had a military who,

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Speaker 2: at the very highest levels, not the warfighters, was forced

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Speaker 2: to fight a less than full fight. What you're seeing now, Sean,

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Speaker 2: is a military that is unleashed in all of its

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Speaker 2: lethal prowess to go out and seek, destroy, and kill

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Speaker 2: the enemy, which is what militaries are.

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Speaker 1: We're doing very well on the warfront.

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Speaker 3: To put it mildly, I we say, somebody said, on

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Speaker 3: a scale of ten, where would you're ready to I

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Speaker 3: said about a fifteen. And we're going to continue to

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Speaker 3: do what we have the greatest military in the world

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Speaker 3: by far.

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Speaker 4: Do you see a way of somehow coming to some type.

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Speaker 1: Of compromise with the anthropic The Treasury.

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Speaker 5: Is not going to trim the use of all anthropic

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Speaker 5: products at this point.

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Speaker 6: The vendor does not get to insert a use clause

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Speaker 6: the ex post into a product. And we had Anthropic

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Speaker 6: at Treasury. It was part of a suite of other

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Speaker 6: the AIPY companies we were testing and we'll have them

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Speaker 6: out of our system.

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Speaker 1: Within several days.

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Speaker 6: So this isn't Nentropic isn't mission critical, and they can't

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Speaker 6: push they can't push use clauses into their contracts.

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Speaker 7: It's been widely reported that in two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 7: when Barack Obama was choosing his vice presidential candidate, he.

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Speaker 1: Had three criteria.

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Speaker 7: He wanted to make sure he picked somebody that wasn't

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Speaker 7: as smart as him and had less talent in charisma

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Speaker 7: and couldn't possibly outshine him, so he picked Joe Biden.

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Speaker 7: And then Joe Biden in twenty twenty used the exact

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Speaker 7: same criteria.

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Speaker 8: He wanted to make sure.

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Speaker 7: He picked somebody went as smart as him, had less talent, charisma,

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Speaker 7: and would now shine him, and he picked them all

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Speaker 7: here and then in twenty twenty four, Governor, I think

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Speaker 7: is very evident why Kamala Harris picked you.

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Speaker 1: Let me make the connection for you.

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Speaker 9: According to the Secretary of Transportation, one third of Minnesota's

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Speaker 9: non domiciled commercial drivers, licenses were issued illegally, were issued illegally.

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Speaker 1: He's here illegally.

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Speaker 9: He can't read, and he got a license under Cample divisions,

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Speaker 9: and he's driving all across the country, imperiling everybody else.

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Speaker 10: I just think it's really disgusting how this institution protects itself,

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Speaker 10: because y'all, just half of them voted to send the

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Speaker 10: Stefft House Ethics where you know what's going to die.

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Speaker 10: We know that members of Congress are using taxpayer dollars to.

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Speaker 1: Pay off sexual harassment.

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Speaker 10: We just had a member of Congress literally sexually harassment

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Speaker 10: when that then lit herself on fire, and you guys

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Speaker 10: all protected him. You guys all protect him my own side,

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Speaker 10: your side, And so if you guys want to talk

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Speaker 10: about victims, if you want to go out and virtue

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Speaker 10: signal and then you guys are going to kill herself

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Speaker 10: on the floor and then try to pass. Yeah, of

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Speaker 10: course we should sicken all of this stuff. But I'm

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Speaker 10: not going to sit here in play games. I think

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Speaker 10: it's a complete broad I think that's why the American

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Speaker 10: people hate us. I think the midterms are coming up

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Speaker 10: and everyone should go on record for this and I

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Speaker 10: hope that members are exposed for us. I hope it

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Speaker 10: goes back, I think into the seventies, because it's wrong

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Speaker 10: that it's happening. It's wrong that we cover up for

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Speaker 10: it's wrong that we can't center our own side because

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Speaker 10: people are busy making deals, because you guys want to

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Speaker 10: center your side. It's a deal that's been people hate here.

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Speaker 1: The payments are restarted.

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Speaker 4: Why didn't you tell the truth about why you restarted

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Speaker 4: the payments.

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Speaker 5: My understanding was that the agency believed that the court

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Speaker 5: had required them to make those payments.

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Speaker 1: That was false, wasn't it? He repeated that, he said that,

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Speaker 1: didn't you all right?

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Speaker 4: That's why you said the reason he restarteds top as

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Speaker 4: the court OrderIn to do so.

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Speaker 1: Here's what the judge says. Governor Tim Walls told.

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Speaker 4: The media that the Minnesota Department of Education attempted in

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Speaker 4: payments to fof because of possible fraud, but that Judge

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Speaker 4: Gosh Gutman ordered payments to continue in April twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 4: Next sentence, that is false, but you said something wasn't true,

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Speaker 4: He further states, this Judge of Gotlin.

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Speaker 1: The court says, this Judge Goutman.

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Speaker 4: Never ordered the Department of Education to resume payments, defeating

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Speaker 4: our future in April twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: So the Court's lion, I can't tell you, Congress mumble.

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Speaker 4: Somebody's lying, either your lion or the court's line.

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Speaker 1: Did you released the carlos are On from.

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Speaker 11: Prison early, allowing him to kill Please don't touch me,

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Speaker 12: A root cup. You have no comment.

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Speaker 13: Do you think Charlotte has a crime problem?

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Speaker 11: Do you see I'm by releasing thirty five hundred.

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Speaker 1: Prisoners as governor?

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Speaker 12: True?

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Speaker 5: Every day there is a battle for your mind, raging

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Speaker 5: information coming from every angle, but the will to the

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Speaker 5: sieve fear not. You found the place for truth, the

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Speaker 5: voice of a generation that still has the will to

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Speaker 5: believe in the greatest country in the history of the world.

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Speaker 1: This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Fuck a lot, here

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Speaker 1: we go at.

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Speaker 14: All right, Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is

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Speaker 14: March fifth, already March here at the Bitcoin dot Com Studio.

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Speaker 14: Honored to be with you all across the country here

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Speaker 14: on Real America's Voice, streaming online everywhere on podcasts. There

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Speaker 14: is a lot to get to today. Very busy show

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Speaker 14: We're going to be welcome by or joined by Mike Howe,

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Speaker 14: President Oversight Project at the Heritage Foundation. It's the second

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Speaker 14: half of this hour. Lots of rumors swirling. Is Christy

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Speaker 14: naumanth thin Ice. We're going to cover that story in

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Speaker 14: just a little bit. But first I want to get

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Speaker 14: into a concept of two things can be true at once.

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Speaker 14: We want this audience to be as educated as possible.

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Speaker 14: We want you to have sophisticated thoughts, nuanced thoughts.

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Speaker 15: Life is not black and white.

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Speaker 14: And the two things at once idea I want everyone

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Speaker 14: to keep in their mind is this image five eighty seven.

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Speaker 14: This is reporting from the Economists. Hat tip to Cane

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Speaker 14: from Citizen Free Press for flagging this for me. The

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Speaker 14: Iran war has been a stunning aerial success. This is

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Speaker 14: the Economists. This is you know, this is not state media.

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Speaker 14: This is the Economist and this is without doubt true.

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Speaker 14: But the subhead is also true, even if at the

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Speaker 14: political level its direction is a mess. Now listen, I

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Speaker 14: was an early critic, as was Blake, that this war

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Speaker 14: had not been sold to the American public sufficiently.

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Speaker 15: I believe that to be the case.

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Speaker 14: I will also give them credit in the days that

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Speaker 14: have ensued since the initial strikes, they've done a better

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Speaker 14: job of explaining the why and the why now. But

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Speaker 14: so two things can be true at once. Our military

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Speaker 14: is second to none. When President Trump louds the military,

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Speaker 14: when Secretary of War Pete Hegseth explains just how lethal

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Speaker 14: and precise and incredible they are, all those things are true.

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Speaker 14: Our military men and women are the best in the world.

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Speaker 14: And our aerial assault has proven to be the best

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Speaker 15: And look at what we did it in Venezuela. Absolutely true.

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Speaker 14: But some of you have been upset with us and

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Speaker 14: our take because we haven't been sufficiently I guess enthusiastic.

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Speaker 14: But I want to bring your attention and Blake actually

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Speaker 14: before I get there, why don't you explain?

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Speaker 15: Why don't you say what you were going to say?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm just I think what we are seeing is

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Speaker 1: there's kind of two wars. There's the literal air war

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Speaker 1: over Iran, and there's the airwaves war. There's the war

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Speaker 1: over public opinion. Every war goes that way, and it's

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Speaker 1: a little different from con inflix you've had in the past,

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Speaker 1: where if you know, if you want to use an

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Speaker 1: obvious example World War two, World War iiO starts with

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent popular support for the war because the

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Speaker 1: Japanese BOMBUS at Pearl Harbor. Everyone is on board, and

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Speaker 1: it would only go down from there if there, you know,

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Speaker 1: were a lot of setbacks. Saw this went on, saw

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Speaker 1: this after nine to eleven, You saw this after nine eleven.

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Speaker 1: Afghanistan ninety five percent support for that war goes down

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Speaker 1: from there. Iraq probably sixty five seventy percent support for

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Speaker 1: that war when it began, goes down from there. This

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Speaker 1: best fifty to fifty maybe less support. And the plan

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Speaker 14: And by the way, I do want to say, this

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Speaker 14: be the absolutely right geopolitical national security percent they have

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Speaker 14: information we don't. Yes, And you would be a fool

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Speaker 14: not to see the potential upside of controlling the strait

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Speaker 14: of horm moose, of getting rid of a milignant actor

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Speaker 15: There's a thousand upsides.

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Speaker 1: If Trump can say you're never going to be hearing

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Speaker 1: past forty five years. Ever again, yes, that's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: But we have an obligation to make this point because

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Speaker 1: And we had students on the show yesterday and we

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Speaker 14: And they answered us, and we told them not to

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Speaker 14: be completely honest with us, and they were. And there's

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Speaker 14: highlight and blake you can call the first one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this was I believe this was asking a

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Speaker 15: YEP, a lot of Trump voters five ninety two.

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Speaker 14: So I want to start off by asking you guys

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Speaker 14: strikes against Iran. What's the vibe? What are people saying?

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Speaker 14: Let's go ahead and start be honest with us. Yes,

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Speaker 14: beyond that, tell us we want to know, we want

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Speaker 14: the unvarnished truth.

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Speaker 13: Brook you first, Yeah, I think my campus especially, people

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Speaker 13: I think that a lot of direction is pointed at

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Speaker 13: Israel and questioning our allies.

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Speaker 1: And the motives in that way, and began, Yeah.

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Speaker 16: I definitely agree, that's the same vibe that we're having

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Speaker 16: on campus, and I think more people don't want to

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Speaker 16: see another war.

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Speaker 14: All right, So that was we thought maybe that was

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Speaker 14: just a broad segment, but then we asked a follow

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Speaker 14: Are you seeing our people gathering in the in the

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Speaker 13: I'm mostly seeing things through online platforms, people on Instagram

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Speaker 14: Right now is Mike hal He's the president of the

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Speaker 14: Oversight Project.

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Speaker 15: Welcome to show. Mike, great to have you.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, we should set this up and set

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Speaker 1: it up. Christino is head of DHS, and she went

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Speaker 1: to Congress this past week for two days of hearings

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Speaker 1: before the Senate and the House on a whole raft

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Speaker 1: of things and will be blunt. What stands out about

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Speaker 1: it is she got tough questions, obviously from Democrats, but

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Speaker 1: also from some Republicans.

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Speaker 14: Yes, and Republicans that we like and we respect. Mike,

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Speaker 14: why don't you set the table. I've got a couple clips.

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Speaker 14: I've got one from Senator Kennedy and we have some

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Speaker 12: Yeah, So no doubt.

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Speaker 18: It's been at a rough couple of months at the

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Speaker 18: Department of Homeland Security. I mean, the most obvious thing

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Speaker 18: is the deportation numbers are just way too low. It's

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Speaker 18: President Trump's central campaign promise to conduct mass deportations. They're

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Speaker 18: only at a couple hundred thousand, and so that's number one.

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Speaker 12: But what the Secretary took heat for is.

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Speaker 18: Really from multiple angles is, you know, ethics issues, and

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Speaker 18: it came from Republicans and Democrats and primarily related to

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Speaker 18: the contracting process and doing so. The thing that jokes

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Speaker 18: run the oversight project is the implication of the President

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Speaker 18: of the United States, President Trump in that because she

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Speaker 18: was taken on heated questions about a two hundred million

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Speaker 18: dollar add by on Fox News telling illegal allience to

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Speaker 18: self deport paused for a second, not a lot of

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Speaker 18: illegal aliens watch Fox News where that advertisement was primarily played,

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Speaker 18: and she said the President told her to do it.

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Speaker 12: And so if I'm a White House lawyer.

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Speaker 18: Knowing that the president is most likely going to be

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Speaker 18: of concern about the fact that, you know, one of

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Speaker 18: of that. That's one of the angles. There's a lot more,

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Speaker 18: but it was a really rough couple of days.

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Speaker 1: And we have that clip. This is Senator Kennedy from Louisiana,

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Speaker 1: So again a senator we like asking her about yes,

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Speaker 19: How do you square that concern for WAE to which

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Speaker 19: I share, with the fact that you have spent two

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Speaker 19: hundred and twenty million dollars running television advertisements that feature

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Speaker 19: you prominent.

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Speaker 20: Sir, The President tasked me with getting the message out

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Speaker 20: seeing the invasion come from, with putting commercials out that

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Speaker 20: told them that if they were in this country illegally,

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Speaker 19: But that has been extremely effective. Ask you to run

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Speaker 19: these advertisements? Is that right?

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Speaker 20: We had that conversation.

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Speaker 15: Yes, all right, So it continues on here.

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Speaker 14: Mike, there's a second part of this that's important because

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Speaker 14: you could see Kennedy's kind of zeroing in here five

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Speaker 19: You're testifying that President Trump approved this ahead of time.

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Speaker 20: Should im understand we had conversations about making sure that

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Speaker 19: I'm I asking you a short interrupt, but the President

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Speaker 19: approved ahead of time. You spending two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 19: you are featured prominently.

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Speaker 20: Yes, sir, we went through the legal processes.

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Speaker 8: Did it correct? Yes he did?

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Speaker 20: Yes, okay, And one thing Senator I think would be

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Speaker 14: So this has sparked massive, massive amounts of rumors, and

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Speaker 14: let's just throw up some of these. This is uh

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Speaker 14: uh I guess five ninety Trump moles Gnome firing. This

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Speaker 14: get it after this interaction five to eighty eight. This

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Speaker 15: But nevertheless, now rumors are swirling. Mike, what put it

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Speaker 15: this way?

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Speaker 14: You set up the stakes, Well, if Democrats get control

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Speaker 15: They would love something like this to be true.

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Speaker 14: Where the DHS secretary is featured prominently, is what secretary

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Speaker 14: Senator Kennedy said. They would love for this to be

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Speaker 14: an ethics violation or some sort of corruption. But it

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Speaker 14: goes deeper than this, does it not. There is reporting

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Speaker 14: kind of what she's dealing with here.

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Speaker 12: Yes, she's taken.

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Speaker 18: It on from a lot of different angles, and it

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Speaker 18: primarily revolves around the movement of money and the ethical

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Speaker 12: Full display to hearing from Republicans Democrats.

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Speaker 18: So let's recall reconciliation, one big beautiful bill forty billion

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Speaker 18: dollars to go to eyes to hire more agents, get

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Speaker 18: detention facilities. That money really hasn't been spent yet. It's

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Speaker 18: not getting out in the field. We are seeing big

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Speaker 18: detention facilities and manpower increases. Stood up and said, the

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Speaker 18: money first was spent on you know, these kind of

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Speaker 18: marketing and communications, uh, you know ploys, which I call

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Speaker 18: you know, mass communications instead of mass deportations. Now you

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Speaker 18: add to that, you know, failure on the operational side,

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Speaker 18: the ethical scandal that is brewing, and it opens up

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Speaker 18: a vector for Democrats and even you know a lot

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Speaker 18: of Republicans to attack the president's central mandate of his

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Speaker 18: you know, administration, which is the security border and mass deportations.

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Speaker 12: And then to make matters worse.

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Speaker 18: You can imagine when these impeachment inquiries into the secretary open,

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Speaker 18: it's going to go right to the President's desk. And

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Speaker 18: you know, Senator Kennedy is a really smart lawyer. He

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Speaker 18: understood the importance and the liability of what the Secretary

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Speaker 18: laid out there when she implicated the president, and I

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Speaker 18: think he was trying to do the White House is

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Speaker 18: solid by making them see, you know very clearly where

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Speaker 18: this trail would inevitably lead.

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Speaker 1: It's the reason we're emphasizing this is this is clearly

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Speaker 1: it's basically the most important department within this president's administration.

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Speaker 1: It is his most important campaign promise is to deliver

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Speaker 1: on border security deportations. And as we know from what

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Speaker 1: happened in Minneapolis, it's inevitable we're gonna get a lot

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Speaker 1: of pressure on the stuff that needs to happen. That

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Speaker 1: we need ice agents out there arresting people. There's going on.

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Speaker 1: INDs non negotiable. You're going to take heat for that.

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Speaker 1: It is entirely avoidable and optional to take heat for

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Speaker 1: the advertising budget.

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Speaker 14: This is what I wanted to zero in with you, Mike.

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Speaker 14: I totally agree. You just said something that's incredibly striking.

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Speaker 14: And actually I'm sitting here boiling if I'm being honest.

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Speaker 14: You just said we're not getting detention facilities, and so

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Speaker 14: what other contracts are not getting out the door while

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Speaker 14: we're getting marketing budgets.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the while, you.

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Speaker 18: Know, no one wants to throw shade at this this year,

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Speaker 18: and I'm certainly not here to first shade. But it's

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Speaker 18: the reality that you know, forty billion dollars, not much

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Speaker 18: of it has been spent. DHS hasn't even updated Capitol Hill,

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Speaker 18: and the money that's gone out, most of it's been

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Speaker 18: tied up.

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Speaker 12: One example is the border wall contracts.

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Speaker 18: Those only left the Secretary's desk a few months ago

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Speaker 18: because they were being held up in you know, this

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Speaker 18: type of contract approval procedure that has come under you know,

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Speaker 18: this ethical you know scandal. And so the result was,

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Speaker 18: you know, President Trump got very upset that the wall

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Speaker 18: wasn't being built when he saw the reports of it

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Speaker 18: not going up. There was a fingerpoint and exercise within

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Speaker 18: the department as to whose fault that was. It ended

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Speaker 18: up that the contracts were sitting on the Secretary's desk

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Speaker 18: as the price of steel increased massively, and then ultimately,

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Speaker 18: after you know, some jarius a few weeks ago, the

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Speaker 18: contracts finally moved.

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Speaker 12: And that's just like one example. And so we can

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Speaker 12: move from the bor saw.

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Speaker 1: Stuff to So I just want to put it that

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Speaker 1: when you say sitting on the desk, do you mean

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Speaker 1: that literally like we're waiting for a signature.

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Speaker 21: Yes, Well, what's happened is it is unusual and the

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Speaker 21: Secretary has has ball makers this that she approves all

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Speaker 21: contracts over certain and now, which has led to you know,

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Speaker 21: removal authority from cbp Ice and elsewhere and centralize it

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Speaker 21: at headquarters.

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Speaker 18: And that has led to some of the infighting and

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Speaker 18: I call it drama and again not commas in the

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Speaker 18: deportation number.

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Speaker 12: And that's why so many people at DHS who had.

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Speaker 18: Each other's throats as laid and it's no secret that

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Speaker 18: the camps had been fighting at first it was internal

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Speaker 18: that it's skilled over into the press with you know,

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Speaker 18: targeted leagues of blaming each other back and forth. And

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Speaker 18: so that's the environment of DHS. But why I care

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Speaker 18: is because we're here to get mass deportations done and

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Speaker 18: if these facilities aren't stood up asap and many are

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Speaker 18: waiting to go, then we are not going to execute

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Speaker 18: the mass deportation agenda. And so like that's what I

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Speaker 18: care about. But when you open up an ethical flank

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Speaker 18: to that, that gives racalciture Republicans Democrats an angle to

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Speaker 18: make sure.

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Speaker 12: That we can't even at a later date get that

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Speaker 12: money spent.

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Speaker 18: It's a disaster, and I think that's why the President's

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Speaker 18: so upset about it.

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Speaker 14: Can you stay for just a few more minutes. We

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Speaker 14: gotta take a break here, You got a few more minutes? Well,

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Speaker 14: I gotta we gotta talk about this Axio story too.

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Speaker 14: And I don't want to rush to judgment here, Mike,

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Speaker 14: I don't want to rush to judgment, but I'll I mean,

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Speaker 14: I've been very clear on this show. This is my personally,

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Speaker 14: this is my number one issue. I think it's existential

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Speaker 14: to the future of the country. We must enforce our sovereignty.

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Speaker 14: We must have a border wall. We must deport criminal

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Speaker 14: legal aliens, and everybody needs to be on the table

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Speaker 14: to deport. By the way, no amnesty, none of this,

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Speaker 14: all right, welcome back. I have some breaking news here.

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Speaker 14: I want the team to get this up. It's very

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Speaker 14: on point with our conversation. This is a White House

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Speaker 14: correspondent from Reuter's Nandita Bose or Bose.

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Speaker 15: I'm not sure how you pronounce it. If you guys

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Speaker 15: could get that.

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Speaker 1: President Trump told Reuters he did not sign off on

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Speaker 1: a two hundred million dollar ad by featuring DHS Secretary

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Speaker 1: Christinome and had nothing to do with it.

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Speaker 15: That is a massive signal.

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Speaker 14: Right there, we talk about signal and noise when President Trump,

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Speaker 14: I mean that means that President Trump is aware of

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Speaker 14: the machinations and the scheming against him and is concerned

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Speaker 14: enough about this to set.

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Speaker 15: The record straight. Mike, how do you interpret this?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think you're right. It's a massive signal. It's

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Speaker 12: President Trump saying he's had enough of this. And look,

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Speaker 12: obviously he did not sign off on.

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Speaker 18: Two hundred million dollar ad buy to plan on Fox

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Speaker 18: neators to tell illegals to self.

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Speaker 12: Deport, which, by the way, only you know, less than one.

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Speaker 18: Hundred thousand ended up using the application CPP one T

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Speaker 18: Yeah to do that.

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Speaker 12: He just has released numbers.

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Speaker 18: But this is the president and his lawyer saying we're

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Speaker 18: not going to get dragged down into this inveachment in

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Speaker 18: quarry just because she brought up his name.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: And here's here's the other thing. So there was a

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Speaker 14: contract that was supposed to go out I think was

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Speaker 14: part of this marketing budget to recruit ice agents, new

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Speaker 14: ice agents because we had ten thousand plus to fill

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Speaker 14: correct and that I'm told that those numbers got filled

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Speaker 14: pretty quickly, and yet without much of the budget being spent.

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Speaker 15: You have you heard the same?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think ice recruitment numbers are good right now.

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Speaker 18: These ads though, I think related to the CBP one

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Speaker 18: app and the self deportation if you're called, they featured

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Speaker 18: you know, the Secretary prominently and almost you know, predominantly

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Speaker 18: aired on Fox Use and Night what you got and

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Speaker 18: you know, illegal aliens don't watch, and so they initially

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Speaker 18: grabbed a lot of attention as being unusual.

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Speaker 12: And then you add into it the allegations.

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Speaker 18: That the contract was like a soul source emergency funding

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Speaker 18: deal that went to someone with political connections to the Secretary,

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Speaker 18: and that was the feature of hearings yesterday in the

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Speaker 18: day before you know, alligation will have.

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Speaker 15: Crossed the no And I get that one.

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Speaker 14: So that's one bucket, But wasn't there a second bucket

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Speaker 14: to recruit ice agents?

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Speaker 1: I think budget they had the money to recruit ice agents,

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Speaker 1: they got the recruits they needed, and they just kept

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Speaker 1: spending it, which might have the implication that someone really wanted,

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Speaker 1: you know, they could have returned that money, used that

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Speaker 1: for something else, right. Yeah.

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Speaker 18: The overall thrust of this is these ads read a

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Speaker 18: self promotion and political advertising as opposed to mission focus.

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Speaker 12: Nice.

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Speaker 15: Yeah. So here's another clip with Christy Nome.

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Speaker 14: I believe this is Sheldon white House, who I don't like,

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Speaker 14: so take it with a grain of salt. But it's

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Speaker 14: about this luxury DHS jet, which is another story. There's

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Speaker 14: an Axios broke this last week. Mike, I don't I'm

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Speaker 14: sure you saw it. But for our audience who may

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Speaker 14: not be aware six o three.

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Speaker 8: Could you explain this, sir.

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Speaker 20: I'm looking at a picture of an interior looks like

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Speaker 20: a bedroom.

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Speaker 1: Of an airplane.

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Speaker 8: Yes, sir, you're not familiar with that.

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Speaker 20: These photos are not accurate if you're referring to the

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Speaker 20: airplanes that the Department of Homeland Security has purchased and

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Speaker 20: are purchasing. We're using them for a long range command

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Speaker 20: and controller aircraft that is dictated in statute by Congress

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Speaker 20: for the Department of Homeland Security.

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Speaker 8: To have a plane, luxury jet with a bedroom in it.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, Mike, here's the Axios story from last week. What

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Speaker 14: do you know about this separate fact from fiction. I

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Speaker 14: don't trust Sheldon white House at all, so I'm not

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Speaker 14: going to tell it.

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Speaker 12: That's the problem.

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Speaker 18: You know, we don't want Sheldon white House and the

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Speaker 18: Democrats ever to be right or have a leg up,

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Speaker 18: but you are not doing them any favors. When money

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Speaker 18: that was supposed to be spent on deportation aircraft or

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Speaker 18: being used for luxury travel for the Secretary and others,

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Speaker 18: and you know, the actually story checks out.

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Speaker 12: I mean, one of these.

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Speaker 18: Jets it claimed was for deportation usage, and the contract

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Speaker 18: is being used for like international junkets and travel.

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Speaker 12: And you juxtaposed that against the Secretary spent very.

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Speaker 18: Little time at DHS headquarters by some counts, less than

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Speaker 18: like a month a month of time there and as

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Speaker 18: instead focused on you know, traveling the globe and elsewhere.

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Speaker 12: It kind of begins to just look like what it is.

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Speaker 18: And it's the use of the emergency funds and the

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Speaker 18: one to be beautiful bill money which is supposed to

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Speaker 18: be getting illegals out, is being used to get you know,

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Speaker 18: the Secretary of the Homeland of security around the world

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Speaker 18: in the country and style. And it just gives Democrats

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Speaker 18: such high ground to make these types of argument, and

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Speaker 18: I don't want to be watching Sheldon Whitehouse and others

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Speaker 18: have that high ground, and that's why it's such a problem.

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Speaker 14: So this is pretty pretty frustrating to hear this is

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Speaker 14: this is was kind of the main reason that I

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Speaker 14: I mean, I don't know, there was a lot of reasons,

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Speaker 14: but like deportations was top of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now you know, double advocate. Obviously this has been critical.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, Okay, let's say the President dismisses her

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Speaker 1: appoints someone new to the position. Are we able to

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Speaker 1: continue doing deportations, doing the wall, doing the things that

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Speaker 1: need to be done while that position goes unfilled, possibly

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Speaker 1: for months on end, like that interim or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so there will be an interim. Will that person be

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Speaker 1: able to deliver on all the things we care about?

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Speaker 1: Or would we want to maybe have the President give

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Speaker 1: her a stern tongue lashing but keep her around purely

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Speaker 1: because we can't afford that two month pause.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, so on the first part of the question, yes,

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Speaker 18: I mean, if you recalling Trump one, we basically ran

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Speaker 18: on acting secretary as while the border wall is being built,

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Speaker 18: which isn't without its problems.

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Speaker 12: But you know, you could the OBB money is insulated

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Speaker 12: from the shutdown.

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Speaker 18: And all of that, and so it really comes down

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Speaker 18: to policy changes on the department that needs to happen.

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Speaker 18: One is, you know, open the aperture of the deportation program.

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Speaker 18: You know, we got to move from the near exclusive

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Speaker 18: focus on criminals to getting the numbers up, which means

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Speaker 18: work side enforcement, you know, to get into the millions

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Speaker 18: which you have. President Trump promised to beat Eisenhower and

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Speaker 18: that's what it'll take. So that policy change isn't going

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Speaker 18: to happen under current leadership. And then second is this

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Speaker 18: this process which is just hunkered down, the moving of

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Speaker 18: this critical forty billion dollars worth of money, and now

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Speaker 18: it's going to be even harder to move that money

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Speaker 18: under current leadership with everybody just so focused on the

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Speaker 18: perceptions of ethical issues in that contracting process.

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Speaker 12: Politically speaking, of course, it's the.

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Speaker 18: President's decision to make, and you know he's got the

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Speaker 18: insight into what needs to be done there.

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Speaker 12: But there are people that.

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Speaker 18: Could come in and get confirmed by the Senate rather quickly,

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Speaker 18: and if you've seen their names floating around, I mean,

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Speaker 18: Jason Chafitz could fly through the Senate. And he's got

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Speaker 18: a lot of experience and wants the deportation numbers up.

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Speaker 12: Mark Morgan, the former head of CVP and Ice and

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Speaker 12: Trump won.

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Speaker 18: He's an operator who knows how to get things done,

893
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Speaker 18: has law enforced their experience and rank and file support.

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Speaker 12: He could fly through the Senate. So these are all

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Speaker 12: things that I'm sure.

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Speaker 18: The White House is laying with their optionality of, you know,

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Speaker 18: having more insight into the various variables in this moving exercise.

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Speaker 15: So, Mike, this has been excellent.

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Speaker 14: Thank you for a dispassionate presentation of the facts. We

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Speaker 14: don't want to run to rush to judgment, but certainly

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Speaker 14: this is troubling because we have an electorate, a base,

902
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Speaker 14: a coalition that wants to focus on local domestic issues. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 14: we've got a war in Iran, strikes ongoing, the timeline

904
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Speaker 14: keeps stretching out. It's going to be it's gonna be

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Speaker 14: a grueling campaign, even if it is the right geopolitical

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Speaker 14: move to make. Meanwhile, the domestic number one issue, the

907
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Speaker 14: issue that basically unites the entire base, the entire coalition,

908
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Speaker 14: is deportation, sealing the border, getting tough on immigration, and

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Speaker 14: it seems to be just a complete mess, and that

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Speaker 14: is a formula for disaster. Mike, thank you so much

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Speaker 14: the oversight project. This has been excellent. We're gonna have

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Speaker 14: you on again soon as this develops.

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Speaker 15: Thank you appreciate it.

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Speaker 14: Matt van Swall joins US an Hour two.

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Speaker 17: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm

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Speaker 17: Terrence Bates. While the current war with Iran is dominating

917
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Speaker 17: the headlines, that Trump administration is also continuing its war

918
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Speaker 17: against narco terrorism. It started with the tax on drug

919
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Speaker 17: boats in the Caribbean, but this week extended to boots

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Speaker 17: on the ground in Ecuador, as American Special Forces operators

921
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Speaker 17: are advising Ecuador's military and taking down drug targets across

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Speaker 17: that country. Today, Secretary of War Pete Hegseth hosted the

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Speaker 17: inaugural America's Countercrtel Conference, bringing together security leaders from across

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Speaker 17: the Western Hemisphere. Ralph correspondent and host of Breaking Point

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Speaker 17: David was there.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Terrence.

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Speaker 22: We are here at US Southern Command Headquarters in durral, Florida.

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Speaker 22: Secretary of War Pete Hegseth hosted the inaugural America's Counter

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Speaker 22: Cartel Conference at US Southern Commands headquarters here. The area

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Speaker 22: of responsibility includes thirty one countries in the Western Hemisphere,

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Speaker 22: and over half of them were here today and signed

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Speaker 22: a joint security declaration to stop narco trafficking in our hemisphere,

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Speaker 22: an unprecedented hemispheric cooperation. SOUTHCOM Commanding General Francis Donovan said,

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Speaker 22: the Western Hemisphere is our neighborhood and we will take

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Speaker 22: aggressive action against the narco traffickers, but in concert with

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Speaker 22: these nations and US Homeland Security Advisor Stephen Miller said,

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Speaker 22: as far as human rights go, we won't protect the

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Speaker 22: savages who rape and torture and kill, but we will

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Speaker 22: protect the peaceful citizens of these countries and sec war Hegseth,

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Speaker 22: the Secretary of War, said, we abandoned the principles of

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Speaker 22: the Monroe doction under previous leaders. More than one millions

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Speaker 22: have been killed by drugs in the United States and

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Speaker 22: human smuggling grew the thirteen billion dollar industry by twenty

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Speaker 22: twenty two. But President Trump has re established the Monroe doctrine.

945
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Speaker 22: He said America will go it alone if necessary, but

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Speaker 22: would rather work with our neighbors under the Area of

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Speaker 22: responsibility of SOUTHCOM or the US Southern Command, and at

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Speaker 22: the conclusion of today's historic conference, the countries in attendance,

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Speaker 22: over half of the countries under of those thirty one

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Speaker 22: countries under SOUTHCOM signed the Joint Security Declaration, a very

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Speaker 22: historic day for the United States.

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Speaker 17: Back to you, Terrence, and in other headlines, the Trump

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Speaker 17: administration's war on Iran wages on after Senate Republicans rejected

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Speaker 17: a bill aimed at stopping the conflict and demanding congressional

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Speaker 17: approval for any further attacks. The measure failed by a

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Speaker 17: forty seven to fifty three margin. A similar House measure

957
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Speaker 17: scheduled to be voaded on this morning, is expected to face

958
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Speaker 17: a similar fate. Meantime, more and more Americans across the

959
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Speaker 17: Middle East are being evacuated and brought home. At last checked,

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Speaker 17: the State Department was confirming that nearly eighteen thousand citizens

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Speaker 17: had returned to the US. About sixty five hundred made

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Speaker 17: it back thanks to US government chartered flights. Thousands more

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Speaker 17: are said to be seeking assistance in fleeing the increasing

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Speaker 17: safety threats across the region. American charter flights are being

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Speaker 17: operated out of the United Arab Emirates, Jordan, as well

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Speaker 17: as Saudi Arabia. The families of all six US troops

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Speaker 17: killed in an Iranian strike on their base in Kuwait

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Speaker 17: have now been notified of their loved one's death. Preparations

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Speaker 17: are under way to bring the bodies home. Although no

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Speaker 17: date for the dignified transfer has been made public, we

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Speaker 17: do know President Trump intends to welcome the fallen heroes home.

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Speaker 11: Heroes represent the very best among us. They laid down

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Speaker 11: their lives in defense of our country, and we will

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Speaker 11: never forget their legacy or their sacrifice. As the President said,

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Speaker 11: we grieve for these American patriots and their families as

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Speaker 11: we continue the righteous mission for which they gave their lives.

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Speaker 11: President Trump intends to attend the dignified transfer of these

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Speaker 11: American heroes to stand in grief alongside their families.

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Speaker 17: The Pentagon confirms two of the troops who were killed

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Speaker 17: were from Iowa. The others were from California, Florida, Nebraska,

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Speaker 17: and Minnesota. Well today could be the day President Trump

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Speaker 17: endorses someone. In the Texas Republican Senate primary, Incumbent Senator

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Speaker 17: John corn And is facing former Texas Attorney General Ken

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Speaker 17: Paxton in a runoff after both of them failed to

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Speaker 17: win a majority of votes.

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Speaker 12: On Tuesday.

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Speaker 17: President Trump is expected to hitch his wagon to one

988
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Speaker 17: of the candidates well before the May twenty sixth runoff,

989
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Speaker 17: taking the truce. Social Commander in Chief writing, I'll be

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Speaker 17: making my endorsement soon, and we'll be asking the candidate

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Speaker 17: that I don't endorse to immediately drop out of the race.

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Speaker 14: That's a good job, all right. Welcome back to our two.

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Speaker 14: Your emails are flooding in. We will probably read some

994
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Speaker 14: of those. Some people like what we had to say.

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Speaker 14: Some people don't very something. It's not even like we

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Speaker 14: didn't like what we had to say. Yeah, that's a

997
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Speaker 14: good point, but it had to be said. Sometimes you

998
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Speaker 14: gotta gotta take your medicine. But we've got a great

999
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Speaker 14: hour to in store for you. And somebody I met

1000
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Speaker 14: at for the first time at America Fest, and that's

1001
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Speaker 14: Matt van Swall. He's a former nuclear scientist for the

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Speaker 14: Department of Energy and not not Department of Education, Doe.

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Speaker 15: Doe is one of those ones.

1004
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Speaker 14: You are somebody that has your social media following has

1005
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Speaker 14: grown very rapidly. I mean, I don't know how many

1006
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Speaker 14: follows you have on x or whatever. It's a lot

1007
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Speaker 14: over a million. And you used to be a left winger.

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Speaker 14: I don't know how far left, but you were. You

1009
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Speaker 14: were a Democrat definitely, and then you basically had a

1010
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Speaker 14: conversion story and you happen to be a nuclear scientist

1011
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 14: and you happen to be in Phoenix.

1012
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Speaker 15: I was like, you need to come in.

1013
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Speaker 14: And explain enrichment because we got this Iran situation going on.

1014
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Speaker 14: But let's start with your conversion. Give us your your

1015
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Speaker 14: backstory and and what made you kind of start changing.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, so, you know, after college, I kind of became

1017
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Speaker 23: significantly more left leaning. And it started in college and

1018
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 23: then kind of quickly escalated from there. You know, I

1019
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 23: was single, I was working, you know, it was in

1020
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Speaker 23: an apartment by myself. I was doing like the online

1021
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Speaker 23: dating thing, and you know, you start you know, I

1022
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Speaker 23: was reading the New York Times, you know, CNN, and

1023
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 23: you kind of get all of your news, and everyone

1024
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Speaker 23: at work is the same way too. You know that

1025
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Speaker 23: you're all kind of bantering and talking, and you just

1026
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Speaker 23: start to see yourself moved slowly to the left as

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Speaker 23: everyone You didn't.

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Speaker 1: Grow up, You didn't grow up necessarily.

1029
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Speaker 8: No, no, no, no, no, definitely not political.

1030
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Speaker 23: My parents were pretty right leaning growing up and I

1031
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Speaker 23: kind of had like a backlash. The same thing with

1032
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Speaker 23: Christianity too, Like I grew up going to church with

1033
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Speaker 23: my parents and then kind of after college.

1034
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Speaker 15: Just it just drifted away, drifted away.

1035
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so so.

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Speaker 15: What was the turning point then?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 23: So so for you know, my wife and I were

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Speaker 23: in western North Carolina during Helene, and you know, we

1040
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Speaker 23: we lost power for a couple of weeks, but we

1041
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Speaker 23: saw so much devastation during that time.

1042
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Speaker 8: And I wasn't really on Twitter at all up until.

1043
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Speaker 23: Helene, and we watched as FEMA just constant failed over

1044
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Speaker 23: and over and over, and it was it was so

1045
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Speaker 23: appalling during that time period because you would you would

1046
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Speaker 23: see FEMA failures all over the place, and the news

1047
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Speaker 23: would just be glowing reviews of how awesome FEMA was

1048
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Speaker 23: doing and how horrific you know, Helene was. But then

1049
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Speaker 23: you just like walk down the street or what I did,

1050
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Speaker 23: walk down the street and see people living in tents,

1051
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Speaker 23: you know, almost months after Helene, and you're like things

1052
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Speaker 23: are not going okay.

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Speaker 15: I mean, I'm blake.

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Speaker 14: I don't know if you remember, but like that was

1055
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Speaker 14: terrible to see the wreckage from that hurricane. Basically Ashville

1056
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Speaker 14: aren't you based in that area?

1057
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Speaker 15: Yeah, so the.

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Speaker 14: The town was unrecognizable that oh hurricane completely wiped that town.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, anything by the river was completely demo.

1060
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Speaker 1: Seventy nine billion dollars of damage.

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Speaker 14: That's I mean, people need to remember just how large

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Speaker 14: of a catastrophe Helene was.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, people were quick to forget that. It's we're still recovering.

1064
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Speaker 14: So I mean, like, I'll be just perfectly honest, like,

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Speaker 14: I haven't thought about it recently.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's been a.

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Speaker 14: Couple of people that have brought it up here and there,

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Speaker 14: But I mean, we have some of these b roll images,

1069
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Speaker 14: and I don't think these are the worst.

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Speaker 15: There was whole swaths of town that.

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Speaker 23: Was just yeah, bud oh yeah. And that's that's one

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Speaker 23: of the reasons I started putting it out. I had

1073
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Speaker 23: a drone and the like people ask me, like, how

1074
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Speaker 23: did you get big on Twitter? I was the guy

1075
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Speaker 23: with the drone that was putting out just the images

1076
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Speaker 23: from Helene like that was it. And so I throw

1077
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Speaker 23: my drone up and you would just see devastation as

1078
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Speaker 23: far as you could see, and it was awful. I mean,

1079
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Speaker 23: the river just took out everything along it. It was

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Speaker 23: so terrible. But the cleanup after that and the helping

1081
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Speaker 23: of people from FEMA was so slow. It took so long,

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Speaker 23: and we would we eventually started talking to people like

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Speaker 23: Sean Hendricks. He's a good buddy of mine now who

1084
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Speaker 23: did Helene cleanup. And we talked to him and you'd

1085
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Speaker 23: be like, yeah, there are people living in tents today,

1086
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Speaker 23: and you're like, today, no, But you know, months afterwards

1087
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Speaker 23: and you're like.

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Speaker 8: How is this possible?

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Speaker 23: And you drive around with them and sure enough there

1090
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Speaker 23: are people living in tents and we're like, we have

1091
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Speaker 23: to get involved. So we started getting involved. And I

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Speaker 23: remember this, you know, we started talking with Sean.

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Speaker 8: His name is Sean Hendrix. You can find him on X.

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Speaker 23: Started talking with Sean's just having these moments. We were like,

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Speaker 23: you know, the government is not We would talk to

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Speaker 23: these victims and they'd be like, we applied to FEMA,

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Speaker 23: heard nothing. And then you would see a nonprofit like

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Speaker 23: Glenbeck's Mercury One step in and they just build them

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Speaker 23: a new home, like out of nowhere, and FEMA is

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Speaker 23: nowhere to be found. And we were like, I mean,

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Speaker 23: we have to, we have to, you know, get involved.

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Speaker 23: So my wife and I started driving r vs to people.

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Speaker 23: People just donate our v's out of nowhere and be like, hey,

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Speaker 23: here's an RV, we're not using it, please give this

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Speaker 23: to someone that needs it. And so we get them in,

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Speaker 23: we clean them, and then Sean or someone else would

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Speaker 23: would drive the r V. And I vividly remember the

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Speaker 23: one time we were driving an RV to a woman

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Speaker 23: and her son, and I drove the RV up to

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Speaker 23: their house and they were living in a shed with

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Speaker 23: a propane here, and I remember walking into the shed

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Speaker 23: and my head hurt so bad from the propane. I

1113
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 23: was like, how the hell can anyone live in this?

1114
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 23: And this was months after Helene, and I was like this,

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Speaker 23: this is crazy. And on that drive, I opened my

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00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 23: phone and I saw, yeah, that's it, that's Lake Lore,

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Speaker 23: which yeah, an incredible spot. I opened my phone and

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00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 23: I saw that Joe Biden had given billions of dollars

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Speaker 23: to Ukraine. And I was sitting there driving an RV

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Speaker 23: to someone like an American that needed it, and I

1121
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 23: was like this is insane, Like this is absolutely nuts,

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00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 23: and then I started, you know, just putting out the stories.

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Speaker 23: It was a story after story after story of people

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Speaker 23: applying to FEMA getting rejected, never hurt hearing back, and

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Speaker 23: there were the worst stories you've ever seen in your life.

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Speaker 23: And the only people that stepped up were the nonprofits

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Speaker 23: and just everyday American citizens.

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Speaker 8: And it was wild.

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Speaker 14: And meanwhile, we're giving away billions of dollars to Ukraine

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Speaker 14: and after we were we were funding all these nonprofits

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Speaker 14: to help illegals get in the country and gain the system.

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Speaker 15: Yeah. Pretty radicalizing.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, actually, and you know it's important that we tell

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Speaker 14: those stories because we need to remember how we got

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Speaker 14: here and what actually put President Trump in office.

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Speaker 15: I think so you became a Christian too.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, so so only started minute left, of course, I'd

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Speaker 14: ask you the hardest question with a minute back.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, my wife and I started going back to church.

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Speaker 23: Is very tangentially related to seeing all of the nonprofits

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Speaker 23: step up when when the government failed, and almost all

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Speaker 23: of the nonprofits, almost all of them were Christian nonprofits.

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Speaker 23: And we realized later on that our kids did not

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Speaker 23: have like a community group, they didn't have any moral

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Speaker 23: teaching outside of my wife and I and my wife

1146
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Speaker 23: grew up going to church as well, but we both

1147
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Speaker 23: we had never gone to church together ever. In the

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Speaker 23: six years that we've been together and we're like, we

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Speaker 23: we have to go back to church, you know, for

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Speaker 23: our kids and for the community that that you know,

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01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 23: it builds, and so so we ended up doing that

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Speaker 23: and it's been awesome.

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Speaker 8: Like my my daughter works in the nursery, my wife

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Speaker 8: and I.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, she's awesome, a beautiful family, and.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, it's it's been really great. I highly recommend it

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Speaker 23: even if you are not a Christian. The community and

1158
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Speaker 23: the morals you get from church is amazing.

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Speaker 14: This is great, and we've got so much more to

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Speaker 14: get to because your story has taken a lot of

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Speaker 14: twists and turns in the last couple of years.

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Speaker 15: We're going to get to.

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Speaker 1: It and they're all relevant news stories.

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Speaker 14: By the way, I want to tell you guys really

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Speaker 14: quickly about Hillsdale College. Hillsdale was absolutely one of the keystones,

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Speaker 14: the most important pieces of Charlie taking everything to the

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Speaker 14: next level. Charlie understood something important. Leadership begins with learning.

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Speaker 14: Through Hillsdale College's free online courses, he studied the great

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Speaker 14: works in the classics, the principles of America's found in

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Speaker 14: so much more.

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Speaker 15: One of the courses.

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Speaker 14: This is actually true that he took was the Genesis story,

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Speaker 14: taught by Hillsdale professor doctor Justin Jackson. It's a real

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Speaker 14: college course. It's rigorous, it's thoughtful, it's hard, but you're

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Speaker 14: gonna learn a lot, and it's accessible to anyone who's

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Speaker 14: willing to learn. You go to Charlie for Hillsdale dot

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Speaker 14: com to enroll. That's Charlie for Hillsdale dot com to enroll.

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Speaker 14: You can learn deeply, lead boldly, carry it forward and

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Speaker 14: learn the deeper truths, the foundational truths that are going

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Speaker 14: to take you and this country, your family to the

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Speaker 14: next level, just like it did for Charlie. Check out Hillsdale,

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Speaker 14: America's greatest college.

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Speaker 15: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 9: Is there something inherently dignifying for a human beasts?

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Speaker 1: Wall from North Carolina?

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Speaker 14: Former I guess Democrat, Yeah, voter, Democrat voter, but he's

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Speaker 14: a Christian now, he's supportive of the President's agenda.

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Speaker 15: He's covering all types of stories.

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Speaker 14: But you happen to be a former nuclear scientist, so

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Speaker 14: a lot has been made in Iran. They were for

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Speaker 14: decades on the precipice of getting a nuclear.

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Speaker 1: Weapon my entire lifetime, Yes, so help us.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: Separate fact from fiction.

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Speaker 14: So we're hearing that, you know, we Bombfordo, then they

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Speaker 14: were told they could make a dirty bomb. Explain enrichment

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Speaker 14: to us, How fast does it go? What does it take?

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Speaker 15: Could you do it?

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Speaker 1: And kind of like these crappy backroom labs or whatever?

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Speaker 12: What is it?

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Speaker 23: Probably not so the way. So there's a couple of

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Speaker 23: ways excuse me to do enrichment. Uh, the one that

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Speaker 23: we did in the forties is not what's being done now,

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Speaker 23: so you could you could do it. You're essentially trying

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Speaker 23: to separate uranium two thirty eight from uranium to thirty five.

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Speaker 23: And if you can get uranium two thirty five up

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Speaker 23: to ninety percent enrichment, then you have a bomb. And

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Speaker 23: the reason for that is it's essentially a domino effect.

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Speaker 8: So if you're if you're making you know, you wanted

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Speaker 8: to make.

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Speaker 23: Let's just say nuclear energy, you would only enrich uranium

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Speaker 23: at most five percent like that that that.

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Speaker 8: Would be the max.

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Speaker 23: If you're if you're anything above five percent, you're clearly

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Speaker 23: trying to do something nefarious, Like yeah, there's no reason because.

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Speaker 15: Over five percent, okadding that low?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So if you're hearing like sixty that's insane.

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Speaker 23: There's no there's no nuclear reactor on the planet that

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Speaker 23: uses sixty like anything.

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Speaker 14: Right then when they go into the room, apparently it

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Speaker 14: was Kushner and wit Cough, they go into the room

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Speaker 14: with their negotiating counterparts from Iran, and they're like, we

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Speaker 14: have sixty percent enriched, and we have enough to make

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Speaker 14: eleven bombs of nuclear material, right sure, uranium essentially.

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Speaker 15: So right then, it's kind of like this whole narrative that.

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Speaker 8: They you're clearly making a nuke.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't.

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Speaker 14: We just want to be able to power our country

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Speaker 14: with nuclear energy.

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Speaker 1: Now, we just offered them all the nuclear fuel they

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Speaker 1: could ever want.

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Speaker 14: But that's a five percent one hundred percent, So how

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Speaker 14: long does it take to go from five percent to

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Speaker 14: sixty percent?

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Speaker 23: So it works on like a to go from zero

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Speaker 23: to let's just say zero percent regiment of five percent

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Speaker 23: verishment takes almost as long it depends as going from

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Speaker 23: let's just say like sixty.

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Speaker 8: To ninety percent.

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Speaker 23: So there's a very long lag time at the beginning,

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Speaker 23: and so that that process could take you ten years

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Speaker 23: to go from zero to five No, to go from

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Speaker 23: zero to ninety percent.

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Speaker 1: But if you were is it all about how much

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Speaker 1: infrastructure you have.

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Speaker 8: It's all about how many centrifuges you have.

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Speaker 23: So if you know, in the forties, we determined that

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Speaker 23: it would take like ten thousand centrifuges to get us

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Speaker 23: to a nuclear bomb to do back in the forties,

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Speaker 23: and so we didn't.

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Speaker 8: Do it that way.

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Speaker 23: But Iran's doing it with centrifuges because they're pretending that,

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Speaker 23: you know, they want it for you know, nuclear energy,

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Speaker 23: which they're not. Like again, like if you have anything

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Speaker 23: over ten percent, you're going for something.

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Speaker 14: Okay, So you're as a nuclear scientist, you you're hearing

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Speaker 14: and looking at these these stats, these figures that are

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Speaker 14: being reported, and you're instantly calling garbage on nuclear energy.

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Speaker 1: You know they're going for a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, of course.

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Speaker 15: Okay, So how did we do it in.

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Speaker 1: The forties if we didn't do it with centrifugees.

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Speaker 8: Oh that's a good question.

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Speaker 1: Is it too long of a question? It's you know,

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Speaker 1: I want to bog us down public information?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, it's I think, Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's public

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Speaker 23: Pretty sure.

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Speaker 8: No, I think you can. I think you can grock it.

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Speaker 23: But but essentially the way we would do it was

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Speaker 23: we forced Again, you're trying to separate two thirty five

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Speaker 23: from two thirty eight, and so you would essentially force

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Speaker 23: it through smaller holes, like to their different sized elements,

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Speaker 23: So you would you would force it through tinier holes.

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Speaker 23: And then we use these monster magnets and the way

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Speaker 23: that two thirty five and two thirty eight bent, you

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Speaker 23: could you could separate out a lot easier than that.

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Speaker 23: But if you are trying to pretend like you were

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Speaker 23: not making.

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Speaker 8: A nuclear bomb, you would do it. You would do

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Speaker 8: it with interviews.

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Speaker 15: That's how you do it in the energy world.

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Speaker 14: Okay, yeah, So so okay, dirty bomb?

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Speaker 1: What is a dirty bomb? How do you make it?

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Speaker 14: And so because that that that's another whole storyline in this.

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Speaker 23: So, so you could theoretically make a dirty bomb by saying,

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Speaker 23: let's just say you have sixty percent enriched uranium. The

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Speaker 23: reason you want to enrich it to ninety percent is

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Speaker 23: to make the bomb as small as possible so.

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Speaker 8: You could put it on a rocket.

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Speaker 23: Otherwise you have this gigantic bomb that you couldn't even

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Speaker 23: put on a plane. Right, So the idea is to

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Speaker 23: get you know, get it as small as possible and

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Speaker 23: then the explosions must figure it's like a giant domino

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Speaker 23: effective at ninety percent enrichment versus that five percent in

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Speaker 23: richment you're looking at like a slow meltdown, which is

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Speaker 23: why it's perfect for energy, because you know, you just

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Speaker 23: have this sustained energy over time versus It's like gasoline

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Speaker 23: versus diesel.

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Speaker 8: If you've ever like lit one versus the other. It's

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Speaker 8: the same idea.

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Speaker 23: So you want to you get it a ninety percent richment,

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Speaker 23: you get on like a very small, like bowling ball size.

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Speaker 23: You could put it in a rocket and it hit someone.

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Speaker 23: Otherwise you're just like, how would you transport something that big?

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Speaker 23: So sixty percent rich uranium, you you could definitely make

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Speaker 23: a bomb, nobody's saying, but you couldn't send it anywhere,

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Speaker 23: You couldn't fly it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so a dirty bomb, yes, and how how devastating

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Speaker 1: is that likely to be?

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Speaker 23: I mean sixty percent? I mean it's still pretty devastating.

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Speaker 23: I mean it would be. It'd be worse, So you know, yeah,

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Speaker 23: for sure.

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Speaker 1: Well, and there's all the follow from that, right.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, it's terrible.

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Speaker 14: But yeah, so a dirt bomb would be. So what

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Speaker 14: what's ideal enrichment for an actual nuclear.

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Speaker 8: Weapon ninety percent or above.

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Speaker 14: Okay, yeah, so a dirty bomb would be less than that, yes, okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So in theory, say Florida, we bombed Florida.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, they scurry in there and they get sixty percent

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Speaker 14: enrich or seventy percent enriched uranium and they fired off

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Speaker 14: kind of as is is the end.

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Speaker 23: Well, you could not be very unlikely you could fire

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Speaker 23: off sixty percent enriched uranium. Okay, that would be Yeah,

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Speaker 23: it would be really tough to do that and have

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Speaker 23: a Yeah, that'd be tough. But what they could be

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Speaker 23: doing is if you're at sixty percent enriched uranium, like

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Speaker 23: I said, like, there's a very long lead time for getting.

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Speaker 8: Uranium up to the point where you could make a bomb.

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Speaker 23: So if they've already gotten it up to sixty percent,

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Speaker 23: I think this is what I keep hearing from the administration.

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Speaker 23: You're pretty close, you know, So if they've just got

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Speaker 23: centrifuges somewhere that we don't.

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Speaker 14: Know about and better spin it away and one percent

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Speaker 14: is pap Yeah interesting? And yeah, I mean so John Solomon,

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Speaker 14: remember that on the Saturday stream we did after this

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Speaker 14: initial strike, he said that you wouldn't even have to

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Speaker 14: get it out of four to doh, you could get

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Speaker 14: it off of potentially the black market, or there's other if.

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Speaker 8: Someone handed them.

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Speaker 23: Really, so anything above let's just say ten percent is

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Speaker 23: highly enriched uranium, low enriched uranium is used for nuclear reactors,

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Speaker 23: then yeah, you're on your way for sure.

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Speaker 14: So, I mean, the more you know, like, Okay, so

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Speaker 14: you're being an you're an educated person in this field.

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Speaker 14: This is what you you know, this was your career.

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Speaker 14: When you're hearing about this, you're instantly going, yeah, that

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Speaker 14: makes sense.

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Speaker 15: They could they.

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Speaker 14: Could hurt a lot of people real quickly, like this,

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Speaker 14: you got to take this extraordinarily serious for sure. And

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Speaker 14: I don't think I think a lot of the skeptics

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Speaker 14: don't understand just how close we were basically existing all

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Speaker 14: the time with Iran's nuclear program. I mean, we were

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Speaker 14: close all the time. I mean maybe that's why it

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Speaker 14: feels like, well, we've always been so close, well, because

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Speaker 14: they have been close to having a new bill.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, it's very possible, you know that. It just it

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Speaker 23: just took them this long to get to sixty percent.

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Speaker 23: And it'd be nice to hear more from the administration

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Speaker 23: about like how close they were and evidence about that.

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Speaker 8: I think that would quell a lot of.

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Speaker 15: All Right, more with Matt van Swall when we get back.

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Speaker 17: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm

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Speaker 17: Terrence Bates. The Trump Administration's war on Iran wages on.

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Speaker 17: After Senate Republicans reject the bill aimed at stopping the

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Speaker 17: conflict and even demanding that congressional approval be gotten for

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Speaker 17: any further attacks. The measure failed by a forty seven

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Speaker 17: to fifty three margin. Us A similar House measures scheduled

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Speaker 17: to be voted on this morning, is expected to face

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Speaker 17: a similar fate. Meantime, more and more Americans across the

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Speaker 17: Middle East are being evacuated and brought home. At last check,

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Speaker 17: the State Department was confirming that nearly eighteen thousand US

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Speaker 17: citizens had returned to the US. About sixty five hundred

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Speaker 17: made it back thanks to US government chartered flights. Thousands

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Speaker 17: more are said to be seeking assistance in fleeing the

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Speaker 17: increasing safety threats across the region. American charter flights are

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Speaker 17: being operated out of the United Arab Emirates, Jordan, as

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Speaker 17: well as Saudi Arabia. The families of all six US

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Speaker 17: troops who were killed in an Iranian strike on their

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Speaker 17: base in Kuwait. Have now been notified of their loved

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Speaker 17: one's death. Preparations are under way to bring the bodies home.

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Speaker 17: Although no date for the dignified transfer has been made,

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Speaker 17: we do know that President Trump intends to welcome those

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Speaker 17: fallen heroes home.

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Speaker 11: Heroes represent the very best among us. They laid down

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Speaker 11: their lives in defense of our country, and we will

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Speaker 11: never forget their legacy or their sacrifice. As the President said,

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Speaker 11: we grieve for these American patriots and their families as

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Speaker 11: we continue the righteous mission for which they gave their lives.

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Speaker 11: President Trump intends to attend the dignified transfer of these

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Speaker 11: American heroes to stand in grief alongside their families.

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Speaker 17: Two of the troops were killed were from Iowa. The

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Speaker 17: others were from California, Florida, Nebraska, and Minnesota. Well today

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Speaker 17: it could be the day President Trump drops his endorsement.

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Speaker 17: In Texas's Republican Senate primary, Incumbent Senator John corn And

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Speaker 17: is facing former Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton in a

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Speaker 17: runoff after both failed to win a majority of votes.

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Speaker 17: On Tuesday, President Trump expected to hitch his wagon to

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Speaker 17: one of the candidates well before the May twenty sixth runoff,

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Speaker 17: taking the true social the Commander in Chief writing, I

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Speaker 17: will be making my endorsement soon and will be asking

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Speaker 17: the candidate that I don't endorse to immediately drop out

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Speaker 17: of the race. We must win in November, he said.

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Speaker 5: Stop watching the news and start making some the Charlie Kirkshaw.

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Speaker 14: do we have that up yet, guys? Because this is

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Speaker 14: this is like, this is the graph? Okay, uranium enrichment,

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Speaker 14: uh six twenty three. I don't know what I'm looking at?

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Speaker 1: Is this the one?

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Speaker 15: Or do you want the this?

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Speaker 13: Oh?

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Speaker 14: Okay, never mind sorry, six two, throw up six twenty two.

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Speaker 14: So this is what we're looking at, and uranium enrichment

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Speaker 14: and uses you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: The first zero to.

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Speaker 14: Five percent enrichment takes a long time, this is correct,

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Speaker 14: and then going from.

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Speaker 15: Five to yeah, you can see just accelerates.

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Speaker 1: So just as you can see if it's you know,

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Speaker 1: you need about thirteen hundred total units of it looks

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Speaker 1: like they're measuring energy or effort somehow, and you're at

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Speaker 1: twelve hundred by the time you get to forty percent.

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Speaker 1: So the last fifty percent is less than ten percent

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Speaker 1: of the total effort.

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Speaker 8: This is correct.

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Speaker 14: Okay effort sw swu okay.

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Speaker 1: Interesting.

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Speaker 14: So basically when you talk about a richment enrichment and

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Speaker 14: they say that it's sixty percent enriched, based on this graph,

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Speaker 14: getting from sixty to ninety happens way faster than going

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Speaker 14: from zero five.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 23: And I think when when they bombed fourdeh they said

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Speaker 23: that they were somewhere around like sixty sixty percent in

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Speaker 23: rech uranium, which if you were to just take iran

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Speaker 23: at the at the word, at the amount of centrifugeons

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Speaker 23: that they have, that that could actually be one week

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Speaker 23: like maybe It depends. So when they say they set

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Speaker 23: them back, they probably really did set them back pretty far.

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Speaker 8: But if they still kept sixty percent.

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Speaker 23: Enriched uranium around and hit it, you know, god knows where,

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Speaker 23: and they have other centrifuge as we don't know about,

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Speaker 23: then yeah, that would that would actually be a big problem.

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Speaker 14: So so listen, this is where you go into the U.

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Speaker 14: You got to trust the people that we helped get

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Speaker 14: elected to kind of make decisions, tough decisions that could

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Speaker 14: be difficult politically. But man, you can't let Iran have

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Speaker 14: a nuclear weapon. President Trump has been very adamant about that,

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Speaker 14: consistent about that. I want to pivot a little bit here, though, Matt,

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Speaker 14: because you know, one of the things, if you follow

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Speaker 14: Matt online, you live in a state that had a terrible,

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Speaker 14: gruesome murder. It was showcased at the State of the Union,

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Speaker 14: and of course we are talking about Arena Zarutska. She

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Speaker 14: was a Ukrainian war refugee that moved to North Carolina

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Speaker 14: and was brutally killed in a video. I think that

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Speaker 14: shocked the conscience of so many Americans.

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Speaker 15: And that's your state.

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Speaker 14: And what's interesting about that it strikes close to home

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Speaker 14: and Blake will remember this that you know, she died

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Speaker 14: just before Charlie was killed. And Charlie was absolutely on

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Speaker 14: top of this. He tweeted about it a lot because

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Speaker 14: this was a story that never should have happened.

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Speaker 15: She should still be alive today.

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Speaker 14: And actually Erica sat next to arenas Rootska's parents at

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Speaker 14: the State of the Union. I don't think she knew

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Speaker 14: she was going to be next to them, so it

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Speaker 14: was a really powerful moment. Yeah, I mean, you guys

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Speaker 14: will remember these images. Just horrifying to see them. Our

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Speaker 14: teams put them up. I just throw them up when

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Speaker 14: you have them. But Matt, how did this story impact you?

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Speaker 8: Oh? I mean it's crazy.

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Speaker 23: Like my wife grew grew up in Charlotte, so she's

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Speaker 23: ridden the lightrail quite a few times.

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Speaker 8: And I'd been kind.

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Speaker 23: Of reporting on Charlotte crime at that point because it

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Speaker 23: was just I mean, if anyone wants to go report

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Speaker 23: on Charlotte crime, it's a free for all.

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Speaker 8: Like the media is not covering this.

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Speaker 23: What's It's not hard to find the stories, but this

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Speaker 23: one was just so surprising.

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Speaker 8: In the sense that this guy Charlotte has an insane.

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Speaker 23: Repeat offender problem, and this is something I cover over

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Speaker 23: and over on Twitter. But this guy had been in

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Speaker 23: and out of prison so many times. His mom said,

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Speaker 23: you know, my son needs to be locked up. He

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Speaker 23: should not be out, and they let him out, oh constantly.

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Speaker 23: And then he goes and says he's got voices in

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Speaker 23: his head. And then murders arena.

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Speaker 1: And there's something deeply symbolic about this one to put

1524
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 1: up six twenty eight and six twenty nine and then

1525
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: the last one if you can get it. So people

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01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 1: have made murals around the country honoring her in big cities,

1527
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: and they keep getting vandalized. People keep spray painting nothing,

1528
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 1: trashing them, damaging them because and like, there's something very

1529
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:56,640
Speaker 1: profoundly insightful about I think left wing psychology that they

1530
01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 1: would feel the need to do that, to track murals

1531
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: of an innocent woman who was murdered by someone who

1532
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 1: should not have been on the street. And as we know,

1533
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 1: she has become a symbol, but a lot of people

1534
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 1: could be this symbol. There's a story that's been going

1535
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:17,600
Speaker 1: on in Fairfax County, right outside DC, where there was

1536
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,719
Speaker 1: a murder there where it was I believe Abdul Jallo,

1537
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 1: a legal immigrant from Africa, let out after I think

1538
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:30,719
Speaker 1: five different malicious woundings, keeps stabbing people. The police sent

1539
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 1: an email to the Fairfax Prosecutor's office saying, you guys,

1540
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 1: let this guy out again. He keeps randomly stabbing people.

1541
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: He's going to randomly stab someone again. And a week

1542
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 1: or two ago he stabbed death a woman, Stephanie Mentor,

1543
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 1: on a bus, which the police had warned he was

1544
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 1: going to and the prosecutor ignored it. We can endlessly

1545
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,640
Speaker 1: find cases like this and look at throw up six

1546
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 1: twenty eight.

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01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 14: This this bothers me a lot to see this. I

1548
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 14: haven't seen this before and it's a a Zarutska mural

1549
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 14: six twenty eight. If you have it, please vandalize this.

1550
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 14: This is a woman who did nothing wrong. She wasn't

1551
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,879
Speaker 14: a public figure, she didn't voice her political opinions online,

1552
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,759
Speaker 14: she didn't go to college campuses to debate college students,

1553
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:20,600
Speaker 14: because lord knows, then you'll get your murals vandalized. She

1554
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 14: was just riding a bus and she got stabbed in

1555
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 14: the neck and she died. And people feel bad about that,

1556
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 14: and I like, that's radicalizing for so many and I'm

1557
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 14: sure for you. Matt as a as a sort of

1558
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 14: newer conservative as well.

1559
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 23: Well, you would just always expect, and almost everyone I

1560
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 23: talked to expects that violent criminals are in jail. Almost

1561
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 23: everyone you talk if you were to ask someone is

1562
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 23: is someone who murdered someone in jail for murdering someone?

1563
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 23: Almost one hundred percent of people to say for sure

1564
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 23: they're in.

1565
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:56,839
Speaker 14: It's almost as common sense as you would assume. Everybody

1566
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 14: has to show an idea to vote one of those ideas.

1567
01:20:58,960 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 8: Yes, one hundred percent.

1568
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 23: And the truth of the matter is, if you go

1569
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 23: and look at any of the major cities, they are

1570
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 23: letting violent criminals out at an insanely high rate. Like

1571
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 23: there's there is a juvenile in Charlotte that has been

1572
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 23: arrested one hundred and fifty times and he's still out,

1573
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:17,719
Speaker 23: Like he's still.

1574
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 8: Committing crimes like breaking in fifty times. Yes, he's not

1575
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 8: even eighteen.

1576
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 23: Like you know, it really is nuts, like the amount

1577
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 23: of times these people are getting arrested and being let out.

1578
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 23: And there's I mean, you can go to my Twitter

1579
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 23: and scroll. I mean, there's endless amounts of these.

1580
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 14: Stories and you you you had a really interesting insight,

1581
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 14: you did some reporting, independent journalism, right, it's kind of

1582
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 14: like part of your new role where you uncovered that

1583
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 14: they were classifying a bunch of non white criminals as white.

1584
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 1: Yes, what was the point of that.

1585
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 15: And did you get confirmation that that you're reporting was accurate?

1586
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 8: It's definitely accurate.

1587
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 23: Now it depends on which sheriff's office, and you know,

1588
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:00,679
Speaker 23: a lot of different things. But in chart at least,

1589
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:05,639
Speaker 23: there there is a like there's an option to click

1590
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 23: the word Hispanic if it's in a Hispanic person, there's

1591
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 23: an option to click the word white or black, and

1592
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 23: an insane amount of the time Hispanic people are classified

1593
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 23: as white in arrest reports.

1594
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 8: There was one so egregious that I remember this one

1595
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 8: very clearly.

1596
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 23: It was it's clearly a Hispanic male with you know,

1597
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 23: black hair, and in the arrest report it was a

1598
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 23: white male with blonde hair.

1599
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,600
Speaker 8: And if you didn't have the photo of this person to.

1600
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 23: Be like, you know clearly, so like this bothers me

1601
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 23: greatly because the truth of crime stats matters, and people

1602
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 23: constantly post like the crime stats per race of individuals.

1603
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 8: And if my assumption is that if you were to go.

1604
01:22:54,960 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 23: And look at the true crime stats based on actual,

1605
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 23: verified race data that is not biased, the white crime

1606
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 23: rate would be insanely low, like much much lower, because

1607
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,679
Speaker 23: these systems that are at the state level feed into

1608
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 23: the federal level.

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01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 14: What do you think, though, why are they doing this

1611
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 14: just because more left wing ideology?

1612
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:19,719
Speaker 15: They don't want to.

1613
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 23: It's possible, So I think there's possibly two reasons. One

1614
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 23: is maybe, and I've been told this by police officers

1615
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 23: that the white button is first on whatever system, So

1616
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 23: if they're trying to do it quickly, it's just, you know,

1617
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 23: we'll just leave it at that. In other places, the

1618
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 23: you know, Hispanic is an ethnicity technically not a race,

1619
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 23: but it depends on again, like the system that you're in.

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01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 23: Sometimes there's not even an option for police officers to

1621
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 23: tap the word hispanic, so they'll they'll just you know,

1622
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 23: you have no option.

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01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 8: You just have to tap white.

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01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 14: Well, I'm looking at one right here. It's a mod

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01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 14: jihad bojia.

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01:23:58,040 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 8: Yeah.

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01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 14: Race white, Yeah, clearly not okay, Yeah, Yeah, there's so

1628
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 14: many of.

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01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 23: These examples, like you could just I mean you could

1630
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 23: probably just search the word white on my my ex

1631
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 23: account and you would.

1632
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 14: See this guy killed three elderly Americans. I remember this

1633
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 14: story because his name was Jahad. Yeah, he killed him

1634
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 14: in Florida and he was listed as white.

1635
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:20,759
Speaker 8: Yeah.

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01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:25,520
Speaker 14: This is a guy with the name Jahad, Yeah, classified

1637
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 14: as white.

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01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1639
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 1: So is there any efforts at the federal level to

1640
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: fix this?

1641
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 8: There are.

1642
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 23: Yeah, I've gotten a phone call from someone out of

1643
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 23: the administration. I don't know whether I'm allowed to say who,

1644
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 23: but they are working on this. This is something that

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01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 23: they're focused on.

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Speaker 1: Because it feels like it would.

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Speaker 14: I mean, the downstream ramifications are are massive, but you're

1648
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Speaker 14: being lied to and there is a whole racial agenda.

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Speaker 14: You could you could say part of this might be inadvertent.

1650
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 14: There's gotta be part of this that is completely intentional. Yeah,

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Speaker 14: look at all this, I mean, come on, Yeah, it

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Speaker 14: doesn't pass the eye test, well, the smell test.

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Speaker 1: Whatever, the common sense does.

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Speaker 14: I don't want to say that we did it, but

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01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:16,640
Speaker 14: maybe we did it.

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Speaker 8: Well.

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Speaker 14: Christy Nome is out as Secretary of DHS. Reports are

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01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 14: that Senator Mark Wayne Mullen we have and will be

1682
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 14: replacing her.

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01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 1: We have a statement from the President. Let's read it. Yeah,

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01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 1: let's get it. I'll start read it. I am pleased

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01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 1: to announce that the highly respected United States Senator from

1686
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 1: the great state of Oklahoma, Mark Waynemullen, will become the

1687
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 1: United States DHS Secretary effective March thirty first, twenty twenty six.

1688
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 1: The current Secretary, Christy Nome, who has served us well

1689
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,719
Speaker 1: and has had numerous and spectacular results, especially on the border.

1690
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 1: Will be removing to be Special ve Envoy for the

1691
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 1: Shield of the America's our new security initiative in the

1692
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 1: Western hemispere. We are announcing on Saturday and Doral, Florida.

1693
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 1: I thank Christy for her service at Homeland, and then

1694
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 1: he has a lot about how great Mark Waynemullen is

1695
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: and all of that. But yeah, that's breaking in the

1696
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:13,799
Speaker 1: banking news a matter of minutes.

1697
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 14: So we spent a lot of time an hour one

1698
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 14: talking about some of the controversies that have been swirling

1699
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 14: around DHS, stuff that we don't want to see because

1700
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 14: it's too critically important to the mission to reelection to

1701
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 14: the coalition. I'm pleased to see that the President is

1702
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 14: taking decisive action. And Senator Mark Wayne Mullen is a

1703
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 14: friend of the show, very well respected, understands the base,

1704
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 14: but he also understands the let's just say, the intricacies

1705
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 14: of working with blue states and understands working with senators

1706
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:53,840
Speaker 14: from blue states. What these negotiations, these high wire acts

1707
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 14: really entail. We talk about crime in blue cities, the

1708
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 14: ideologies that run these blue cities. They don't want to

1709
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 14: enforce crime, so you've got an uphill battle. Then we

1710
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,759
Speaker 14: make a lot of noise about the numbers that Barack

1711
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 14: Obama achieved when he was president about deportations. Well, guess what,

1712
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 14: Almost eighty percent of those were transfers at the local

1713
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 14: prison level, at the local jail level. So that was

1714
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 14: before the sanctuary city madness really took root. And that

1715
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 14: was before all this TDS anti Trump sentiment, right, because

1716
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:30,759
Speaker 14: this was before Trump. So they would just hand criminal

1717
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 14: illegal aliens over at the off at the jail level.

1718
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 14: Why is that important? Way safer takes way fewer agents

1719
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 14: to get those transfers accomplished, and you get them deported immediately,

1720
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 14: You get violent criminals instead of releasing it back into

1721
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 14: the streets, you get them out of your country. So

1722
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 14: that's going to be goal number one for Senator Mark

1723
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 14: Waynemullen is to exert enough effort and force and coercion,

1724
01:28:55,840 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 14: if you have to, political pressure to get blue cities

1725
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 14: to cooperate. Now, the good news era is that Tom

1726
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 14: Holman has already given us a model for this. In Minneapolis.

1727
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 14: Minneapolis was spiraling out of control. President Trump sent Tom

1728
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:13,560
Speaker 14: Holman into Minneapolis got them to heal and now that

1729
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 14: he's got cooperation from ninety five percent of county jails,

1730
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 14: local jails Minneapolis to hand over these detentional quests. H Blake,

1731
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 14: got to get you in here. How important is this?

1732
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 14: What what do we make?

1733
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna we're gonna have to see so he we

1734
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 1: still have a month before it goes in. That would

1735
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: be a pretty brisk confirmation schedule. I think, Uh, but

1736
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:36,759
Speaker 1: he's in the Senate. I think that would help speed

1737
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 1: things along. Lose the senator, We lose the senator, but

1738
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 1: it's Oklahoma. That is a race we're highly unlikely to lose. Well,

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Speaker 1: no black pilling, you're telling me, And so I think

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Speaker 1: I think. I mean, we've had Mark Wayne on the show.

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Speaker 1: I think he's got a good head on his shoulders

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Speaker 1: about this sort of thing. Yeah, it shows they recognize

1743
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 1: the fact that he has someone ready to go right away.

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01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:01,879
Speaker 1: It shows he recogni as is the importance of keeping

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Speaker 1: the heat on because he knows this matters. He knows

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01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 1: he needs really aggressive enforcement on border stuff, and he

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01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 1: needs to keep delivering wins on that because a lot

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Speaker 1: of people voted for that, and that is a signature

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01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 1: issue for him. Well, and yeah, I think, as we

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Speaker 1: discussed in the first hour this happened, You're going to

1751
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 1: have controversy with ICE. People are going to get mad

1752
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 1: about a bad photograph. They're going to get mad about

1753
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 1: some bad confrontation with a protester. They're going to get

1754
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 1: mad about some arrest that gets made. That is inevitable.

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Speaker 1: There's the sheer scale of the problem means that's going

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01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 1: to happen, and so you can't have avoidable stuff. We

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01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 1: should not be debating ad buys at DHS. We should

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01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:47,400
Speaker 1: not be debate debating Try to jet that they're buying

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01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:50,839
Speaker 1: at DHS. Keep it on what needs to be happening,

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01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 1: securing the border, getting the wall up, getting the illegals out,

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Speaker 1: getting the arrests made. That is where the focus needs

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Speaker 1: to be. I have sources at DHS that I've spoken with,

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Speaker 1: and I think, on balance, they are in favor of

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Speaker 1: a change being made, and I think I trust them

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Speaker 1: that they have the interests of the department and the

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Speaker 1: interests of the country at heart when they say that.

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Speaker 15: And I too have sources in this world, and you

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Speaker 15: know this, Let's let's hope that this is a good.

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Speaker 14: Thing and We've got to wait and see, you know,

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01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 14: we got to see what Senator Mark waynemulland does it

1771
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 14: sounds like the future secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.

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Speaker 14: But I'm curious your perspective here, Matt as somebody that

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01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 14: is newer in this space. You know, you your your

1774
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:41,559
Speaker 14: perspective is probably more on the FEMA angle. But what

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01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 14: do you make of something like this?

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Speaker 23: Well, you know, I don't have any sources in the administration,

1777
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 23: but but I do think that people, especially on the

1778
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 23: right me too, have been frustrated with the slower pace

1779
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 23: of deportations, Like it's it's the number one issue of

1780
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 23: anyone you talk to, is you know, why why are

1781
01:31:58,560 --> 01:31:59,679
Speaker 23: we not deporting more?

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Speaker 8: You know, why are we not inst arresting employers?

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01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 23: Why are we not targeting people who speak Spanish with

1784
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,839
Speaker 23: ads to self deport right, like very common sense stuff,

1785
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 23: you know, but to start start finding employers that hire

1786
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:15,719
Speaker 23: illegal aliens, Like I feel like there's there's a lot

1787
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 23: of things on the table that could be used to

1788
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 23: ramp up deportations that have not yet been used, and

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Speaker 23: that this is exactly what the base of what's what

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01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 23: I want to see, Like there was a criminal, illegal

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Speaker 23: alien who you know, raped a fourteen year old girl

1792
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 23: right across from my kid's school.

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Speaker 8: Like that was? That was last week. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now I want to say something up because we are

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01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 1: losing Secretary m I want to say positively about her.

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01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:43,639
Speaker 1: She is a woman who didn't shy away from those

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01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 1: controversial aspects of ice that we mentioned, that they were

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01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:51,479
Speaker 1: going into cities, they were making arrests aggressively, even where

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01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 1: people were complaining about it. And we have to make

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01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:57,639
Speaker 1: sure Senator Mark Wayne Mullen when he takes that job,

1801
01:32:57,760 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 1: we're going to keep the heat on him. He can't

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01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 1: back off on things. He can't send any signs of weakness.

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Speaker 1: He has to be ready to trample over blue states,

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01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 1: trample over blue cities, lay down the law. That is

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01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 1: what the base wants, and the left is going to

1806
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:13,640
Speaker 1: look for weakness here.

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Speaker 12: Total.

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Speaker 14: If we want to keep the coalition together and we've

1809
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 14: got all of these forces arrayed against us, you've gotta

1810
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 14: go hard on deportations. You've got to be absolutely firm

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Speaker 14: in your resolve. Now, my advice to the senator future

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01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 14: Secretary sounds like is do not cower, do not give

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01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:38,520
Speaker 14: an inch, but go behind the headlines, go get underneath,

1814
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 14: do not look to to be the face. Just be quiet,

1815
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 14: make it happen, and at the at the end of

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Speaker 14: the year, post a huge number and blow people away.

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Speaker 15: Make these blue cities heal. We need you to cooperate.

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Speaker 14: Frankly, and I think Senator Mark Wayne Willan is a

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Speaker 14: guy that can get Blue cities to cooperate one way

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Speaker 14: or the other.

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Speaker 1: Matt.

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Speaker 14: We weren't expecting this to be our final segment, but

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Speaker 14: its candidly, it's it's a full circle show. So what

1824
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 14: can we say? A lot happened today, Matt vance while

1825
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 14: check him out on X follow him a really important

1826
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 14: new voice, and I think you're gonna continue growing and

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Speaker 14: doing great things.

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Speaker 8: Thank you for having me on.

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Speaker 15: Thank you been an honor.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow.