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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, September fourth, twenty eighteen, Season fours, in
Speaker 1: episode number thirty three. Welcome to a very very special
Speaker 1: edition of The Break. We are living back on the air,
Speaker 1: ready to talk some Cowboys football because the season is here.
Speaker 1: It is week one of the NFL season. We have
Speaker 1: not had a chance to talk since the roster cut,
Speaker 1: so we'll spend quite a bit of time today talking
Speaker 1: about the roster and how this team's made up. But
Speaker 1: the great part is that the games are starting this
Speaker 1: week and as of Wednesday and Thursday and Friday, we'll
Speaker 1: be talking about Cowboys versus Panthers, which gets me excited.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, guys, it gets me very
Speaker 1: very excited. I'm ready to go. Somebody get feeling good today,
Speaker 1: feel freaking great? Awesome college football this weekend. That was
Speaker 1: a good weekend for some, not all, but some, and
Speaker 1: it was just good to see football back on. Let's
Speaker 1: start first, this fifty three man roster and this thing.
Speaker 1: I guess when I first when I first heard Nick,
Speaker 1: you you were the one that texted me and said, yeah,
Speaker 1: the roster's out without Dan Bailey, and it was I
Speaker 1: was a bit shocked. I've learned in the NFL, though,
Speaker 1: not to be completely shocked about pretty much anything. But
Speaker 1: I do want to hear from you guys on what
Speaker 1: your thoughts were. I saw your I saw your tweet
Speaker 1: amber about Dan Bailey. I want to know your thoughts
Speaker 1: about what you thought first when you saw that Dan
Speaker 1: Bailey is no longer part of the Dallas Cowboys. Well,
Speaker 1: we have talked a little bit. I mean, I know,
Speaker 1: not in this group, but we did talk some yesterday
Speaker 1: on a show, so some of some people might have
Speaker 1: heard that. But I'll be real quick. I was really surprised.
Speaker 1: As the day went on Saturday night, I kind of
Speaker 1: was a little bit more bothered by what happened. I
Speaker 1: wrote a column about it. I just didn't feel like
Speaker 1: there was a true competition. Even the Garrett came back
Speaker 1: yesterday and said, you know, they're always competing and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. And he explained some reasons. I don't agree
Speaker 1: with all of them. Actually, um, you know, they can
Speaker 1: do whatever he wants. He went with it with the
Speaker 1: other kicker. I just felt like Dan deserved a better
Speaker 1: opportunity to win his job. He's the best that's ever
Speaker 1: done it for the Cowboys. And if there's confidence issues,
Speaker 1: he had four preseason games because we know they weren't
Speaker 1: trying to win those games. You should have been evaluating
Speaker 1: him and to see if he could make it and
Speaker 1: then move on. And then without just saying we don't
Speaker 1: think he's going to be good enough to move on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I echo most of that. I was floored, honestly.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't been here forever, but this
Speaker 1: is my six year cover in the team, and I
Speaker 1: don't know that I've ever been more surprised by something
Speaker 1: that happened. And again and yeah, absolutely, And here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Here's what I take issue with, is uh with De's Bryant,
Speaker 1: Like we saw the writing on the wall for months
Speaker 1: and months, even with Jason Witten, we sort of you
Speaker 1: know that's right, you heard rumors that it could happen
Speaker 1: you know, somebody report that he had tried out with
Speaker 1: Joe tessitur like you all you hear this stuff. I
Speaker 1: didn't hear anything about this until maybe fifteen minutes before
Speaker 1: it actually happened, and it came right out of left field.
Speaker 1: And the thing that bothers me is exactly Dan Bailey
Speaker 1: struggled down the end of last season. We all know
Speaker 1: that we watched it happen the a what a cherry
Speaker 1: on a crap Sunday that Philadelphia game was to see
Speaker 1: him play so poorly in such a meaningless and awful game.
Speaker 1: Having seen all of that, you didn't get the first
Speaker 1: idea that the Cowboys had concerns in the long term.
Speaker 1: You know, you didn't hear about it in the offseason.
Speaker 1: It's not in the dozens and dozens of times that
Speaker 1: the Joneses and Jason Garrett talked during the course of
Speaker 1: an off season. It never came up. Dan Bailey struggled
Speaker 1: for two practice days in Oxnard, and the media even
Speaker 1: tried to bring it up, and point blank Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: was dismissive of it. Like, we feel great about Dan Bailey.
Speaker 1: He's made a lot of kicks for us. We're not
Speaker 1: worried about it, and then they pulled the rug out
Speaker 1: from under him right at the start of the regular season.
Speaker 1: And to be fair, again, we said this on the
Speaker 1: show we did yesterday. They know Dan better than I do.
Speaker 1: They are around him more, they see him more, they
Speaker 1: have a better feel for whether or not they should
Speaker 1: have confidence in him than I do. That's fair, but
Speaker 1: I absolutely reserve the right to criticize them for it
Speaker 1: until proven otherwise. Maybe this was the right call, and
Speaker 1: I will give them credit for it if that comes
Speaker 1: to pass. But I just don't like the way they
Speaker 1: handled it. I never got the impression that Dan Bailey
Speaker 1: was in a competition. I wonder if he ever thought that,
Speaker 1: and so it's just it just seems weird to me.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I didn't really love the way at all
Speaker 1: played out. But we'll see. I mean, the great thing
Speaker 1: about that is, especially with a position where the spotlight's
Speaker 1: on you like that, we're gonna know real quick whether
Speaker 1: or not they made the right calls. That's two people
Speaker 1: that don't have a poster of Dan Bailey on their wall.
Speaker 1: Sociall see what happens with someone that I am. I
Speaker 1: am really really upset and when I saw that. It
Speaker 1: was absolutely surprising, especially when you see them giving him
Speaker 1: only one chance. He only kicked the ball once, right
Speaker 1: in the whole preseason. Yes it was only once? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: in games? In games, And a guy that has been
Speaker 1: here so long, that has proven to be so good
Speaker 1: for your team, how do you go about it this way?
Speaker 1: And if you want to talk, And I'm not a
Speaker 1: cap gap whatever expert, I'm not a money expert and
Speaker 1: all that. But if you're like, Okay, that's gonna save
Speaker 1: you about three million whatever, that's nothing. That's like change money.
Speaker 1: If you're a regular pedestrian, that's a lot of money.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to this, I'm like, okay, you
Speaker 1: say you save money by cutting death. What you do
Speaker 1: with that money? Nothing yet, you haven't done it. You
Speaker 1: can carry that money over, So let's say, okay, that's
Speaker 1: why I have to spend it now in order for
Speaker 1: it to be valuable to them for a team that
Speaker 1: already had sixteen million in cap space. I agree with her.
Speaker 1: Three million is nothing nothing. Get all that, I guess,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to. I'm bringing Earl Thomas and
Speaker 1: this is the big work behind it all. Then okay,
Speaker 1: I'll maybe forgive this happening that they need my forgiveness.
Speaker 1: But if that's a plan, then okay, we're good. But
Speaker 1: as of right now, it just doesn't make any sense. Well,
Speaker 1: I guess the way I look at that is, I
Speaker 1: think next year, if let's assume for a second that
Speaker 1: Tank has a really good year, they got to figure
Speaker 1: out how they're gonna pay him. Right, Well, hold on
Speaker 1: just a second, they gotta figure out how how they're
Speaker 1: gonna pay him. They still have a quarterback that's playing
Speaker 1: on his rookie contract. At some point they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to pay him if he continues to progress as they
Speaker 1: think he will. Right, and then let's remember Earl Thomas,
Speaker 1: whether that happens now or not, Old Thomas will be
Speaker 1: a free agent next year. So if they want to
Speaker 1: go after him next year, they will have every opportunity
Speaker 1: to do it, and they're gonna have to pay him.
Speaker 1: Don't forget and ze. So all I'm saying is there
Speaker 1: are things that are coming up that if the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are thinking, hey, let's look at this from a long
Speaker 1: term perspective, and let's assume for a second that they
Speaker 1: look at this and say, this is money that we
Speaker 1: may not have to use Now we can hold this
Speaker 1: money over and we can have it available to us
Speaker 1: next year. Then it does create a situation where three
Speaker 1: million becomes valuable because you have all these different parts
Speaker 1: that you have to sign. But that conversation only becomes
Speaker 1: relevant if you have lost confidence that Dan Bailey is
Speaker 1: the most accurate kicker. Absolutely absolutely, And that's where I
Speaker 1: get back to, or I shouldn't ague back to. That's
Speaker 1: where I think from what they've said, they felt like
Speaker 1: because of the injuries, they felt like because of the
Speaker 1: challenges that he had last year. I think they kind
Speaker 1: of got to a point where they were like, well,
Speaker 1: we don't know that we trust him for the money,
Speaker 1: and then we talk about this conversation all the time. Right,
Speaker 1: if you're paying guy premium money and he's premium player,
Speaker 1: then you feel great about it. You'll pay him all day, right,
Speaker 1: But if you got to a point where you feel like, hey,
Speaker 1: every time he runs out there, we're just as worried
Speaker 1: as we would be with this young this other guy,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna cost us three million less and go
Speaker 1: with the other guy. To be fair, he's had injuries
Speaker 1: two years in a row. His percentage has dipped I
Speaker 1: think three years in a row, but again to nixt
Speaker 1: point where let him let him compete. He got one
Speaker 1: kick in the preseason and I just I won't understand
Speaker 1: that for the life of me. Yeah, and again, how
Speaker 1: does that help him on landing? And I don't think
Speaker 1: he needs that much help to for another team to
Speaker 1: grab him. I think he still has a lot in
Speaker 1: him left. But with the guy that you had have
Speaker 1: had for so long and that you would assume you
Speaker 1: respect and everything because of everything that he has done
Speaker 1: for you, how do you take the ability to showcase
Speaker 1: your talent during the preseason as far as other team
Speaker 1: If that's what you're planning on doing and cutting him,
Speaker 1: why don't you let him show it and allow him
Speaker 1: to see, you know, other teams see what he's still capable.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, and Nick and I would
Speaker 1: have this conversation with walking In today. Could you really
Speaker 1: could he really show it in the preseas? But wait, wait,
Speaker 1: I think that the way that that they probably would
Speaker 1: look at that I would think is if we're worried
Speaker 1: about injuries and we're worried about what he's done the
Speaker 1: past couple of years, Like how We've seen him decline
Speaker 1: and we've seen injuries. He might be great right now
Speaker 1: in the preseason. He might go out and kick all
Speaker 1: those field goals, but that doesn't necessarily make me feel
Speaker 1: better if I'm worried about injuries and if I'm worried
Speaker 1: about the future of where he's going based upon his
Speaker 1: trajectory over the last couple of years. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: could have given him that shot, but that doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: clear up Mike, Well, you know what I mean, how
Speaker 1: much more important was the last game of the season
Speaker 1: against the Eagles than a preseason game. I mean, they
Speaker 1: both didn't seem to matter in the in the you know,
Speaker 1: on the standings because they were out of it. But
Speaker 1: yet talking to Garrett yesterday, it made it sound like
Speaker 1: that last kick was pretty important that that Bailey missed.
Speaker 1: So if you're going to get valued by a game
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter, there, I mean you should have valued.
Speaker 1: I think Brett Maher's kick of fifty seven yards I
Speaker 1: think that got him on the team, and I agree,
Speaker 1: and I think if Bailey could have got that kick,
Speaker 1: I think it could could have helped him. And again,
Speaker 1: that's the one position that you can show you're telling
Speaker 1: no matter why, no matter who who the other players
Speaker 1: are on the field right now, just a one position
Speaker 1: you can still show what you can do, no matter
Speaker 1: if veteran guys are playing or not. But I also
Speaker 1: believe that that's the one position where I'm just as
Speaker 1: what he does in practice is just as important as
Speaker 1: what he does in game lining up and kicking a
Speaker 1: field goal and practice. The only difference is you don't
Speaker 1: have the pressure. So seeing him kick and seeing him
Speaker 1: kick over and over again in practice, that'll give you
Speaker 1: the same kind of confidence. And there was that day
Speaker 1: or two there where he was a little bit off
Speaker 1: the rails. Okay, well liked when he throws the passes
Speaker 1: in practice. Still again it's still a difference. But yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's different a quarterback and a kicker. That's okay.
Speaker 1: Here's something that I think is kind of a really
Speaker 1: underlying problem here that that I think other players need
Speaker 1: to look at around the league, especially here. I've seen
Speaker 1: it now happen a few times. You can be a
Speaker 1: warrior and come come out and play if you're banged up.
Speaker 1: I mean, you want to come back and fight for
Speaker 1: this team game, but you better be real careful with
Speaker 1: how you play, because if you put bad tape on
Speaker 1: yourself out there, your own team will evaluate that against you.
Speaker 1: I've seen it happen with DeMarcus where he played with
Speaker 1: Hatchers ago because he saw DeMarcus where fight through all
Speaker 1: this stuff, and then all of a sudden he gets
Speaker 1: labeled as a guy that doesn't have it anymore, even
Speaker 1: though he now he has a really shiny left hand
Speaker 1: because of what he did in Denver. I mean, in
Speaker 1: the same with Bailey, we're all forgetting. I mean, Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham got paid. He only played in like four games
Speaker 1: last year. I mean, why was he Because he's great?
Speaker 1: But why I mean he only played in four games.
Speaker 1: He only played in four games. But he's great. He
Speaker 1: wasn't great last year. What's the difference? Did he get hurt?
Speaker 1: But he's great? Nick? I mean, but he Dan Bailey
Speaker 1: was great. Dan Bailey was seven of seven last year
Speaker 1: before he got hurt. Are we not forgetting that he
Speaker 1: got hurt? Dan Bailey was never as great at what
Speaker 1: he does as Odell Beckham is what he That is
Speaker 1: an absolute false statement. That is a false statement. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's not going to lead Sports Center with the top
Speaker 1: ten with a field goal. I get it, being the
Speaker 1: best wide receiver is more lucrative, but Dan Bailey was
Speaker 1: literally the best to ever do it in his possession
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Has was Dan Bailey the best last
Speaker 1: year or the year before? Yeah? In the NFL at kicking, well,
Speaker 1: he was the best kicker. Guy over here saying he
Speaker 1: was seven to seven before he got hurt, so he
Speaker 1: was doing pretty damn well. And he was the best
Speaker 1: kicker in the NFL. Yes, last year in the NFL,
Speaker 1: in the year before, in the history of the NFL,
Speaker 1: he was the number one kicker before he got hurt.
Speaker 1: Number two on the Tucker had held to number It
Speaker 1: fell to number two because of because Tucker had a
Speaker 1: good year, and and I get it, a lot of
Speaker 1: those guys are right there that are all active players.
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. But I'm just saying, just
Speaker 1: be just be careful when you come back and you
Speaker 1: play it, because because bad tape is bad tape, and
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem people don't seem to really. Uh, he
Speaker 1: was kind of playing through an injury to their To
Speaker 1: their credit, the Cowboys give to Marcus Lauren. It's a
Speaker 1: ton of credit for gutting through injuries in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: But that could be part of the reason why he
Speaker 1: doesn't have a deal right now too, if he I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: and oh you believe, you best believe when it time
Speaker 1: comes time to have negotiations on a contract, if you're
Speaker 1: a guy that's been hurt, that's gonna come up because
Speaker 1: that helps you drive the Probably think any fan cares
Speaker 1: that Tyrone Crawford was battling through a rotator cuff injury. No,
Speaker 1: they just like, he makes this amount of money and
Speaker 1: he only got four sacks, Like what's the problem? Which
Speaker 1: this goes back to my point in the long run
Speaker 1: that I just would we would have heard something, somebody
Speaker 1: would have said something between December and July. If this
Speaker 1: was like again Dez Bryant was a long discussion and
Speaker 1: the writing was the writing was in ten foot letters
Speaker 1: all over the wall. You could not be surprised by that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Dan Bailey, this is my opinion. I don't have This
Speaker 1: is I'm not backed up by any fact, but I
Speaker 1: think they kind of just got to a point in
Speaker 1: like mid August where they were like, we're gonna save
Speaker 1: some money and we don't have to worry about this
Speaker 1: guy's back. Let's just get yeah, just yank this, get
Speaker 1: this were with and I think the fifty seven yarder
Speaker 1: got him there. And I really do believe. I think
Speaker 1: that's a crappy way to treat a guy who's been
Speaker 1: I know it's a business, I know, I know, I
Speaker 1: don't care. I still think it's crappy. Tell him ahead
Speaker 1: of time that I mean, he needs to do well whatever,
Speaker 1: like no, no, give him some chances in the preseas.
Speaker 1: That's my point. That's my point. I think that, like
Speaker 1: you said, they got to late mid late August and
Speaker 1: they were like, h I don't know this, this guy
Speaker 1: might be as good as Dan Bailey. And then the
Speaker 1: fifty seven yarder happened, and I think that's when the
Speaker 1: serious conversation started. I think it was a situation where like, man,
Speaker 1: this guy can kick because I had heard, I had
Speaker 1: heard that there were some people around here who are
Speaker 1: already saying this guy is a really, really good kicker,
Speaker 1: and we don't we don't like, we don't love the
Speaker 1: idea that eventually he's that he's going to be kicked
Speaker 1: off out of this place in favor of Dan Bailey,
Speaker 1: because we feel like he's a good kicker. So I
Speaker 1: just think that after that fifty seven yarder, I think
Speaker 1: they that's when it really got into hyper gear, Like
Speaker 1: more people are starting to stand on the table, like
Speaker 1: why would we live this guy go when we already
Speaker 1: have concerns to some degree about Dan. You know what,
Speaker 1: I'm tired of this. I'm just gonna go talk to
Speaker 1: Stephen right now. I want to figure out what's happening here.
Speaker 1: Do it? Go ask him? Go do that. Actually, Nick
Speaker 1: does have an interview with Stephen. Gents, we'll see what
Speaker 1: he comes away from that with. We're gonna take our
Speaker 1: first break when we come back. We do have a
Speaker 1: lot of other topics that we want to hit. A
Speaker 1: couple other things with regard to some transactions, some players
Speaker 1: who've been moved around in different places, some who've been
Speaker 1: signed back, and I want to talk about Travis Frederick
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Speaker 1: to be made as to whether Travis would be ird
Speaker 1: that would keep him out for the first several weeks
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Speaker 1: want to talk to you about how do you guys
Speaker 1: feel about that decision? When we come right back. This
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Speaker 1: second segment of the Break Live for the SWBC Mortgage
Speaker 1: studios at the Star and we're talking to Cowboys fifty
Speaker 1: three man roster that talks about Dan Bailey, which is
Speaker 1: a surprise cut of this training camp and may have
Speaker 1: been may have been the surprise cut around the NFL.
Speaker 1: I can't think of another cut around the NFL that
Speaker 1: I was really shocked by like this one, So I
Speaker 1: think it was one that that definitely caught a lot
Speaker 1: of people's attention. Dan did get an opportunity to go
Speaker 1: and trial for the New York Jets. We'll see if
Speaker 1: he actually gets the job. He's not been signed to
Speaker 1: this point, but there's no doubt in my mind that
Speaker 1: before this season has done, Dan Bailey will be kicking
Speaker 1: on somebody's roster. He's just done too much his league
Speaker 1: not to get a second opportunity, and I think for
Speaker 1: kickers that's how it just goes. He's going to get
Speaker 1: an opportunity again and hopefully he'll be healthy and ready
Speaker 1: to go and we'll be able to resume his career.
Speaker 1: Let's talk. We're about to move on. But you know,
Speaker 1: I really hate that we didn't get a chance to
Speaker 1: talk to him, and we don't get a chance to talk,
Speaker 1: not to say goodbye, but just to hear his side
Speaker 1: of the story, you know, and kind of see his perspective.
Speaker 1: But again not we don't get a chance to talk
Speaker 1: to anybody that gets cut during this time. But it
Speaker 1: just sucks. You know, you see him last time. I'm
Speaker 1: not knowing that that was the last time you were
Speaker 1: going to see him. That's the thing though, that I've
Speaker 1: in the years I've been around here, That's the one
Speaker 1: thing that I've grown to just kind of get used to,
Speaker 1: and I still don't like it. It's like things change
Speaker 1: so rapidly in the NFL, especially when you get to
Speaker 1: the offseason. I've seen everybody from Emmett Smith to Dion
Speaker 1: Sanders all the way to DeMarcus Ware and Tony Roman.
Speaker 1: I've seen all these guys leave, and when they leave,
Speaker 1: it's just just like that. I was telling somebody and
Speaker 1: maybe you Dave back. During training camp the first day,
Speaker 1: you felt a little bit weird that Jason Witten wasn't there.
Speaker 1: By a weekend, you had completely forgotten about him as
Speaker 1: a part of what this current team is, and it's
Speaker 1: just that's how the NFL is. It moves on, and
Speaker 1: I don't care how big a player you are. I
Speaker 1: don't care how small a player you are. It is
Speaker 1: exactly the same because once you're gone, the building forgets
Speaker 1: and they move on to whoever's in the building playing football.
Speaker 1: From them, You are one hundred percent right. Everything you
Speaker 1: just said is correct, but it leaves a really bad
Speaker 1: taste in my mouth when very accomplished players are treated unceremoniously.
Speaker 1: That's what happened. It does. It happened to Dan Bailey,
Speaker 1: and it's just a reminder players and players don't listen
Speaker 1: to this. But if they did, they don't. You don't
Speaker 1: own this team anything. Don't forget that. Don't forget the
Speaker 1: way they're going to treat you. And for fans listening
Speaker 1: at home, if DeMarcus Lawrence, just if he was sitting
Speaker 1: out right now, I would not blame him one bit.
Speaker 1: Yes I would not, because it's it's a cutthroat league
Speaker 1: and you got to look out for yourself and that
Speaker 1: doesn't jibe with the team first mentality. That only works
Speaker 1: for you when it's in your favor. But as soon
Speaker 1: as you can help the team, they don't care about you,
Speaker 1: and you go, yeah. That's why I always take the
Speaker 1: player's side in these things. I think it's two things.
Speaker 1: I think it is team first. When you're on the field,
Speaker 1: when you're practicing, when you're playing, you should always be
Speaker 1: looking out for your teammates. When it comes to the
Speaker 1: business of the NFL, you are your own business. You
Speaker 1: are an independent contract. You are your own business. It
Speaker 1: is your responsibility to look out for what's best for
Speaker 1: you as a player first, for you and your family first,
Speaker 1: and then figure out how that affects the team. But
Speaker 1: you're right, but these teams, these teams will were disappointed
Speaker 1: that Levion Bell can't be here to help his teammate
Speaker 1: get out of here. I'll never never, I'll never feel
Speaker 1: like that. I always feel like when it comes down
Speaker 1: to it, because again, these contracts are not guaranteed. So
Speaker 1: I think players have every right to do what's best
Speaker 1: for them from a business stamp. Once they're in the building,
Speaker 1: it should be all team. They should be looking out
Speaker 1: for their team because that's the only way you can
Speaker 1: get success, because if you rely on your teammate and
Speaker 1: your teammates can't rely on you. But when it comes
Speaker 1: to the business of the NFL, just like the teams
Speaker 1: look out for themselves. It's no different than all of
Speaker 1: us in our everyday jobs as well. You know, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, and employer's responsibility is to
Speaker 1: create a good business that makes money, right. It is
Speaker 1: not to make sure you're taking care of and you're comfortable, right,
Speaker 1: So think about that and make decisions that are best
Speaker 1: for you and your family that fit into the concept
Speaker 1: of the company that you work for. It is not
Speaker 1: one of those things where they're gonna always be loyal
Speaker 1: to you because they're ultimately going to make the best
Speaker 1: decision for their business. Correct. All right, So let's move on.
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about the couple of transactions
Speaker 1: that have happened here over the last couple of days.
Speaker 1: Noah Brown initially was placed on the active roster. He
Speaker 1: has now been moved to IR and they have now
Speaker 1: taken that spot and signed Deontay Thompson. I don't think
Speaker 1: there's much of a surprise here, Dave. It seems like
Speaker 1: back during training camp you were talking a lot about
Speaker 1: I think you were one of the people that say
Speaker 1: Dante should make this team. This was a way to
Speaker 1: get him onto the team. He didn't get signed by
Speaker 1: anyone while he was cut, so it were it's actually,
Speaker 1: I mean, speaking of looking out for your own best interest,
Speaker 1: it's a pretty genius way of roster maneuvering. I mean,
Speaker 1: Cowboys aren't the only team that does this. But if
Speaker 1: you cut Noah Brown on Saturday, he goes through waivers,
Speaker 1: you might not get him back. So you keep him
Speaker 1: on the roster. You cut the vested veteran and say,
Speaker 1: Deontay hang here at the Omnian Frisco for thirty six hours.
Speaker 1: We're gonna put Noah on IR so we can potentially
Speaker 1: bring him back and we don't have to risk losing
Speaker 1: him to another team. And as soon as we do that,
Speaker 1: we'll sign you back. You'd be good to go. It's
Speaker 1: common maneuvering, but I love that fun little you know.
Speaker 1: It's the jigsaw of how to make everything work and
Speaker 1: work in your favor. So let's talk about a couple
Speaker 1: of other transactions. Darius Jackson, so on the Cowboys practice
Speaker 1: squad got signed away by the Green Bay Packers. Good
Speaker 1: for him, which I was saying to you guys in
Speaker 1: the break. You look at all the gay at the
Speaker 1: Cowboys cut that we were all kind of handwringing over
Speaker 1: and who's gonna, you know, who should they cut? Is is
Speaker 1: is a hard decision, I think, and I maybe I
Speaker 1: may be wrong in this. I think there was only
Speaker 1: one that got signed by another team, and that was
Speaker 1: Darius Jackson to the Three Bay Packers. And to me
Speaker 1: probably rightfully so um outside of maybe my pick ked
Speaker 1: Brian Price, but I think, well he's gone to You're right,
Speaker 1: he's gone, but he hasn't been signed, right, I don't
Speaker 1: think he was. He was claimed by the Oakland Raiders. Okay,
Speaker 1: so he did get claimed. That's so. Actually I wrote
Speaker 1: about this yesterday. Cat maneuvering it worked out well in
Speaker 1: the Noah Brown instance, you hold on to Deontay Thompson.
Speaker 1: But basically they were going, I mean, Dayton Jones is
Speaker 1: gonna go to I R. And they were gonna do
Speaker 1: the same thing and say, well, we want to bring
Speaker 1: Daytone back, so we got to keep him. Brian, We're
Speaker 1: gonna cut you, You're gonna go through waivers and we're
Speaker 1: gonna bring you back. Oakland had better had other ideas,
Speaker 1: and now Brian Prices in Oakland Raider. That's the costa,
Speaker 1: that's I mean, you take that risk, and that's why
Speaker 1: they didn't want to do it with Noah Brown, right.
Speaker 1: But those two players, Darius Jackson, Brian Ice or two
Speaker 1: players I think showed a lot in the preseason, and
Speaker 1: really Brian Price going back to last year, this was
Speaker 1: not just about the preseason for him, and both of
Speaker 1: them end up on other teams. But that's the thing,
Speaker 1: and this is another thing we talked about in the break.
Speaker 1: Every team has guys that are on the bubble for
Speaker 1: them during training camp that they're like, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be hard to cut this guy. I don't know if
Speaker 1: we can get him back. And just as in the
Speaker 1: case of Lance Lenore and Charles Tapper, Cowboys found that
Speaker 1: you put him out there by cutting them, they still
Speaker 1: were available to him to make them a part of
Speaker 1: their practice squad. They were literally I think, I mean
Speaker 1: there are more than a thousand cuts over the course
Speaker 1: of the weekend, and I think forty guys got claimed
Speaker 1: across the league. So I mean, once you get to
Speaker 1: a certain point on the roster, everybody's got guys that
Speaker 1: fit that profile, and teams prefer to hold on to
Speaker 1: their guys because they know the system and they don't
Speaker 1: have to teach him something new. So unless you think
Speaker 1: you can drastically upgrade, which I'm excited for Darius, I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna go anywhere. But Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: is suspended Green Bay. Jamal Williams is a second year guy,
Speaker 1: and Time Montgomery's a wide receiver playing running back. So
Speaker 1: although he plays it pretty well, I'm not you're right,
Speaker 1: but there it should be opportunity there for Darius Jackson
Speaker 1: to maybe do something. I hope. I hope for him,
Speaker 1: so doubt. All right, let's talk up a little bit
Speaker 1: about Travis Frederick. Travis Frederick was a guy that going
Speaker 1: into cuts, there was a thought that the Cowboys could
Speaker 1: possibly decide to hold on obviously put him on the
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster because they don't want to risk
Speaker 1: cutting him obviously, but what they might do is at
Speaker 1: some point move him to IR because of the rules
Speaker 1: that now they could bring him back after eight weeks
Speaker 1: or eight weeks, that would give them the ability basically
Speaker 1: to give him half a year to be able to
Speaker 1: get right and then they could possibly bring him back.
Speaker 1: They did not make that decision. They have kept him
Speaker 1: on the active roster for now. Does that make you, guys,
Speaker 1: feel better about the situation and what you think is
Speaker 1: his status or prognosis is I think it makes me
Speaker 1: feel worse, to be honest, really, yes, Why well, I'm
Speaker 1: a natural pessimist, you know that. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: They kept him on the fifty three, which suggests optimism,
Speaker 1: But at the same time they say, we don't know, like,
Speaker 1: we don't have a timetable. We're not even worried about
Speaker 1: that yet. It's we're worried about Travis's health and we'll
Speaker 1: deal with that when it comes. But all the reports
Speaker 1: have been positive. That's awesome, And I care way more
Speaker 1: about Travis's health as a person than I do as
Speaker 1: a player. The Cowboys have Joe Looney, they claimed Alex Redmond,
Speaker 1: who can play center, so I feel good that they
Speaker 1: can handle the physical aspect of this without Travis. But
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, Okay, what if this changes. You don't
Speaker 1: know enough to know when he's coming back. What if
Speaker 1: three weeks from now, four weeks from now, you realize
Speaker 1: now maybe the optimism wasn't well founded, and then you
Speaker 1: put him on IR now he's gone until December probably,
Speaker 1: whereas if you just did it Sunday, you know, you
Speaker 1: don't even worry about it until whatever mid October and
Speaker 1: then you can make your best decision from there. So
Speaker 1: with so many unknowns, I think i'd rather or just hey,
Speaker 1: take two months and we'll bring you back if we can,
Speaker 1: and if not, that's fine. Now you're gambling on getting
Speaker 1: him back, you don't have the extra roster spot, and
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work out the way you want it to,
Speaker 1: you lose him for even longer. But are you missing
Speaker 1: anything with that extra roster spot? Was Brian Price your
Speaker 1: example of where you could have used that roster spot?
Speaker 1: Brian Price could have played on Sunday and Travis Frederick cannot.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I I'm not saying it's definitely the
Speaker 1: wrong move. And to your point, like the fifty third guy,
Speaker 1: is he really He's probably not going to address I understand,
Speaker 1: but it just it worries me when you're dealing with
Speaker 1: so many unknowns. That's I don't even feel one hundred
Speaker 1: percent comfortable talking about it because it's such a unique situation.
Speaker 1: And I hope that he's healthy more so than I
Speaker 1: hope he can play football. So I just I almost
Speaker 1: wish that they were just like, you know what, some
Speaker 1: things are more important. Let's just let's just stash you
Speaker 1: for two months and worry about it and we'll see
Speaker 1: where you are. You know, never give me some optimism.
Speaker 1: I wish I could. No, I don't feel good about this,
Speaker 1: this decision. And here's why his condition it is. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure they know way more than we do. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, from what I from my understanding,
Speaker 1: this type of condition, it's very hard to determine how
Speaker 1: long you're gonna be out for or all that. So
Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's kind of you take it day by
Speaker 1: day by day or week by week. Therefore, why not
Speaker 1: use that spot for something else where? The Cowboys they
Speaker 1: have plenty of spots that are in need. And what
Speaker 1: worries me is that sometimes the Cowboys are a little
Speaker 1: too optimistic in a way. You know, they think it's
Speaker 1: it's just gonna work out. And I keep going back
Speaker 1: to Tyren Smith situation, where again, we all knew his
Speaker 1: back problems, we all knew where he was standing, and
Speaker 1: still you didn't really work on getting that backup spot
Speaker 1: ready and making sure you were well equipped for if
Speaker 1: whatever happened when he came out, you were able to
Speaker 1: go on with it. And I think I see this
Speaker 1: kind of it's a different scenario, But I don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm making sense right now. If you know, my
Speaker 1: point of view is I think that sometimes they're a
Speaker 1: little too optimistic with certain things, and then some other
Speaker 1: things they're they're not as optimistic. So it's just it's
Speaker 1: just weird. I don't understand. I get he's your best player,
Speaker 1: one of your best players, and you want to have
Speaker 1: him on the field when you can and all that,
Speaker 1: But as of right now, looking at everything they've said,
Speaker 1: why not just get let him be out for eight
Speaker 1: weeks and even then if you know if he's ready
Speaker 1: to come back, great, But if it's not, I'll boil
Speaker 1: it down really simplistically for you, just yes or no.
Speaker 1: What do you think is more likely that Travis Frederick
Speaker 1: makes this incredibly remarkable recovery and is in the lineup
Speaker 1: week five when the Cowboys go to Houston, or Travis Frederick,
Speaker 1: if he can do anything, is back doing football stuff
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving in December. Well that was the reason I asked
Speaker 1: the question. Is My thought was if they made this decision.
Speaker 1: They probably know more than days you're right publicly or
Speaker 1: said to us right, because the thing about it is,
Speaker 1: I don't think you just make this decision unless you
Speaker 1: have reason to believe that he has a legitimate shot
Speaker 1: to be back before that eight week period is up
Speaker 1: to be fair, and what they say publicly, that's one
Speaker 1: thing we know from what we've seen over the years,
Speaker 1: you don't always say publicly what is fully known. On
Speaker 1: trust that they know more than I do. But again,
Speaker 1: I can only go with the information I have, which
Speaker 1: is two weeks after he got diagnosed, they're still saying
Speaker 1: no timetable. We're way more worried about his health as
Speaker 1: a person than anything relating to football. It doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like a guy who's gonna be ready to play football
Speaker 1: in four or five weeks. But that's also I mean,
Speaker 1: you have to keep saying that because again, the unpredictable
Speaker 1: nature of this injury or this this disease, this syndrome,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, it's unpredictable. And so even if they
Speaker 1: feel like they've gotten good reports that suggest otherwise, they
Speaker 1: have to keep publicly saying we don't know they got
Speaker 1: when we were in ox. Now California. It was like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, everything came out, came back good, We're good
Speaker 1: to go, blah blah. Then comed back to Dallas, still
Speaker 1: not practicing, and he gets more stuff and it's like,
Speaker 1: come to find out he's diagnosed with this decease. But
Speaker 1: once again, I don't believe in this is my own
Speaker 1: personal belief. I don't believe they were saying publicly at
Speaker 1: that time what they knew. What they were saying was
Speaker 1: everything's fine because they didn't want to ring the alarm
Speaker 1: until they knew more. Right, Yeah, they are, don't. You
Speaker 1: can't convince me that they and Travis and everybody that
Speaker 1: was in the inner circle didn't know that this was
Speaker 1: more serious than just a stinger, right, you can't convince
Speaker 1: me of that. So if that's the case, then once
Speaker 1: again they said what they had to say publicly. But
Speaker 1: that's that doesn't have anything to do with what's really happened.
Speaker 1: You're one hundred percent right, because after all this happen,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Zach was Zack Martin was even
Speaker 1: talking like, yeah, like it was really scary at camp,
Speaker 1: Like he was talking about, you know, how he didn't
Speaker 1: feel as strong and blah, blah blah. So right. I
Speaker 1: know that I don't know the whole story, but trying
Speaker 1: to offer informed analysis as best I can, you only
Speaker 1: go it doesn't sound like it's realistic to think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be able to do meaningful things for you until
Speaker 1: after the IR window anyway, And honestly, with all the
Speaker 1: uncertainty and the fact it's an autoimmune disease. Again, it's
Speaker 1: not as hamstring. He's got a disease in his nerves.
Speaker 1: It just sounds scary, just it absolutely is. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: just remove the temptation to worry about football and just say, hey,
Speaker 1: we'll see you on Halloween. But that I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: so we'll see. I don't know. Maybe maybe he's gonna
Speaker 1: play Week four and I'll admit that I was wrong,
Speaker 1: but and we'll see. I don't know. Let's take our
Speaker 1: final break. When we come back, we do have to
Speaker 1: take a talk about the safety position. We always dedicate
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Speaker 1: Welcome Back. It's the final segment of The Break live
Speaker 1: from the s WBC Morgat Studios. At the start, Nick's
Speaker 1: back with us. Hi got anything good from Stephen? I'm
Speaker 1: you know. I asked if there was a trade in
Speaker 1: the you know, he said no, not right now, and
Speaker 1: now stop asking me. I did. I did ask if
Speaker 1: Karen Reid would be the guy that they're gonna bring
Speaker 1: best since Brian Price was not um he was picked
Speaker 1: up and claimed by the Raiders. Um, And he said no,
Speaker 1: that they're gonna keep Daytone Jones on the roster. He's
Speaker 1: been growing. Injury for him, I believe, so hamstring, Um,
Speaker 1: he's been yeah, but they feel like he's making progress
Speaker 1: to the point where he'll probably be able to play,
Speaker 1: maybe as soon as the second game against the Giants.
Speaker 1: So um it's a game of the season again, not
Speaker 1: the second game against the Giants, but um, just week
Speaker 1: two of the season. So it looks like Dayton Jones
Speaker 1: and Frederick are going to be your two guys that
Speaker 1: stay on the roster. Say that's they were gonna put
Speaker 1: him on IR yesterday when they thought they'd get Brian
Speaker 1: Price back and they didn't. And I guess maybe they
Speaker 1: just think the drop off is that noticeable, or maybe
Speaker 1: they got a different report on his health. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I hope it's that because I mean, why would
Speaker 1: you even cut Price in them begin with that's yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know, I don't if you think you can
Speaker 1: be there for week two, I'd say it's worth it.
Speaker 1: But so two of your fifty three, I mean we
Speaker 1: got two of the enacted, we got three of the ENACTORAD.
Speaker 1: But that just seems kind of that just seems weird.
Speaker 1: It just seems weird. Like it's like, Okay, on Monday,
Speaker 1: they're gonna bring back Price if he clears waivers, so
Speaker 1: then they'll put Jones on. Why even do that on Sunday? Then?
Speaker 1: Why don't you just put will you sign your guard
Speaker 1: that you want to keep? You know? Redman just put
Speaker 1: Jones on. They couldn't. They couldn't get them. Then that's right.
Speaker 1: They couldn't put Jones on IR on Monday. I just
Speaker 1: answered my question, Wait why not? Because on Sunday they
Speaker 1: couldn't put him on IR on Sunday they had to
Speaker 1: put him on Monday. I thought they I thought you
Speaker 1: could do. Oh no, you're right, yeah, Oh God's never mind.
Speaker 1: I just talked myself out of that. Okay, Sorry, I
Speaker 1: get it. Thanks Steven. Well, Nick Joan just just in
Speaker 1: time to talk about safety. It's a position we've talked
Speaker 1: a lot about Um. I guess let's start first with
Speaker 1: the signing that the Cowboys made. They signed, say Ibraheim
Speaker 1: Campbell Um. And I don't know how much do you
Speaker 1: guys know about Campbell, if anything about you know, is
Speaker 1: he a special teams type player or is he got it?
Speaker 1: That's a that's been a safety? Like, what what do
Speaker 1: we know about about Campbell's played four or five has
Speaker 1: played four years in the league. Again, I say, to
Speaker 1: make this joke a lot, He's got the same amount
Speaker 1: of interceptions as we do, doesn't have an interception, which
Speaker 1: means he's probably a special teams type guy. I know.
Speaker 1: Does have starts though, right, he's eleven. So that's eleven.
Speaker 1: Was that last year or was that four years ago?
Speaker 1: Early in his career earlier he's been a special teams guy.
Speaker 1: He's got eleven more starts, eleven more starts than every
Speaker 1: safety not named Jeff Heath, got it? So, I mean
Speaker 1: so again, this is again, this is just a guy
Speaker 1: that's a band aid temporarily until you can hopefully get
Speaker 1: some healthy safeties back. It's it sounds like they're at
Speaker 1: least optimistic that Cavon might be available for Carolina. I
Speaker 1: think Xavier Woods is ruled out and so Robinson plays.
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna patch it together between Tyree Robinson,
Speaker 1: Ibrahim Campbell and hopefully Cavon Frasier. Hey, I know that
Speaker 1: that there's people in this room that like what Cam
Speaker 1: Newton does. I don't think he's a great passer. If
Speaker 1: you're playing a better passer this week, would you would
Speaker 1: you maybe change your mind on what you do, think
Speaker 1: on how you do things, Like if this is Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: I mean at this point though, I mean, I know
Speaker 1: theoretically you could go trade for Earl Thomas theoretically, but
Speaker 1: realistically really meaning you're not just giving up the bank
Speaker 1: or whatever you gotta do. Well, like, realistically, what more
Speaker 1: could they do right now? Well? They I mean, but
Speaker 1: the schedule hasn't changed. They'd known all along that they
Speaker 1: were going to play Caroline in week one, and they
Speaker 1: might have to not have his Xavier Wood. It might
Speaker 1: have been different if there was somebody else, if you
Speaker 1: had Giants week one, maybe that changed, right, wouldn't play
Speaker 1: the Giants in Week one? That ever happened? How many?
Speaker 1: How many quarterbacks on the schedule this year of one
Speaker 1: NFL MVP, Matt Ryan, I am Newton, Okay, I knew
Speaker 1: that you were gonna go here, and I get it. No,
Speaker 1: he's not great. He's not the most accomplished passer in
Speaker 1: the NFL. I get it. But like the most accomplished
Speaker 1: runner in the NFL, and you got it for pointing
Speaker 1: safeties wind up making those type of tackles too. That's
Speaker 1: what I was actually gonna say is I'm I'm more
Speaker 1: concerned about can they tackle in the open field when
Speaker 1: they got him one on one? He's if he's back
Speaker 1: at the safeties, you've got other issues going on and
Speaker 1: our right, which you might. I mean, I just think
Speaker 1: that you think about how this offense is, like they
Speaker 1: got some playmakers on their offense. It's not just Cam.
Speaker 1: I mean that that running back runs, So that may
Speaker 1: be why you're where your linebackers are preoccupied, you know,
Speaker 1: after him. I really don't, um. I know, I get
Speaker 1: your point. I know what the stats say. Cam Newton
Speaker 1: is not a great pure passer, But you're not gonna
Speaker 1: hide a bad safety against an NFL MVP. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Either whether it's running or throwing,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna hide well. And he's also got a
Speaker 1: great tight end unless 's an injury or something that
Speaker 1: he's got a pro Bowl tight end. McCaffrey looks like
Speaker 1: a stud. I don't really know what DJ Moore has
Speaker 1: been doing, but he's there. Tory Smith is this is
Speaker 1: a pretty decent white Smith is there. I mean he
Speaker 1: wasn't great for run. He can run run. Yeah, So,
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's some things we'll talk about this tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get into the Panther's offense tomorrow. But are
Speaker 1: we doing that where Dave's gonna have his his chart
Speaker 1: and I hope so? Great? Okay, cool, Yeah, we're taking
Speaker 1: the Panther's offense tomorrow. So get it ready, Dave, get
Speaker 1: out the game past Thursday. You better be up till
Speaker 1: midnight taking notes on the tape. That's that's the job, bro,
Speaker 1: that's cool job. We got it cool all right? Um So,
Speaker 1: so I guess at this point from the standpoint of
Speaker 1: of the safeties, it's pretty apparent this is what they're
Speaker 1: rolling into the season with. YEA, they feel comfortable with it.
Speaker 1: Do we know anything more about Xavier Woods and and
Speaker 1: is this just the one week thing or is this
Speaker 1: something that Lingers even into the Giants game, where again,
Speaker 1: I personally believe that you got a lot more challenges
Speaker 1: when you start talking about the receiving threats in New York.
Speaker 1: Let's wait and see kind of what practice looks like.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not saying he's going to be on there,
Speaker 1: but what he's doing on the other fields. If he's
Speaker 1: on the chords this week, if he's able to do that,
Speaker 1: that's a better sign that we're getting closer to practicing.
Speaker 1: Maybe this week you're making for next week. You're making
Speaker 1: a mistake if you're trying to put a hard deadline
Speaker 1: on a soft tissue injury, which Jerry Jones has said
Speaker 1: that he thinks they think he can be ready for
Speaker 1: New York. Jerry Jones is eternally optimistic, and you never know,
Speaker 1: I mean hamstrings especially. We've seen that time and time again.
Speaker 1: So take that with a huge grain of salt. I'm
Speaker 1: waiting until like Thursday of week next week before I'm
Speaker 1: making a call on Xavier Woods. There's one final question
Speaker 1: I want to get to with you guys about the quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Cowboys kept both quarterbacks backup quarterbacks in Cooper Rushing Mike
Speaker 1: White two quarterbacks that the Cowboys had a lot of
Speaker 1: interest in we're trying to trade up for in the draft.
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago. Paxton Lynch and Connor Cook
Speaker 1: are both available after being cut. The Cowboys consider going
Speaker 1: out and getting one of those guys to replace one
Speaker 1: of the guys that they have here. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: You know, they're available because their team gave up on them,
Speaker 1: and you know, they had plenty of time to learn
Speaker 1: the system and show what they can do, and they
Speaker 1: showed what they couldn't do, And now you're going to
Speaker 1: ask them to come in and probably I would imagine,
Speaker 1: I don't know this. I would imagine learning the offense
Speaker 1: was probably an issue for both of them, or they
Speaker 1: wouldn't be you know, or if not, then their talent
Speaker 1: isn't as good as they thought. So I think you
Speaker 1: got a chance to see some of them. If you're
Speaker 1: gonna put them here, are they going to be that
Speaker 1: much better than what you have? I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: think I would go that route, but just to play
Speaker 1: Devil's advocate, at some point, the Cowboys were really willing
Speaker 1: to give up a first round pick and more because
Speaker 1: they were gonna have to trade up to get packs
Speaker 1: to Lynch. Does that at least make you think even
Speaker 1: if we brought him in as our third guy, a
Speaker 1: guy that we're going to develop, we should give that
Speaker 1: a shot because we thought so highly of him back then.
Speaker 1: The only thing that depreciates faster than a car is
Speaker 1: like a draft pick. I'm serious, Like, yeah, Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: is killing himself for not giving up the third to
Speaker 1: go up and get Packson Lynch. And now we don't
Speaker 1: have to debate about this because Jerry already said this
Speaker 1: morning they're not interested, which I wouldn't have claimed him.
Speaker 1: But I don't see the harmon bringing them in for
Speaker 1: a workout now that they're street. But they got Mike White,
Speaker 1: who I mean, they valued him. He basically hasn't had
Speaker 1: a chance to suck yet. I mean, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he will, but you get my point, Like there's more
Speaker 1: reason to be optimistic with him than there is having
Speaker 1: two years of Paxson Lynch tape. Teams talk too, they
Speaker 1: talk to each other. Why'd you cut him well? Because
Speaker 1: he does this and this, you know it doesn't do that.
Speaker 1: Maybe he maybe this will humble both of them to
Speaker 1: the point where like if there's some issues. Maybe if
Speaker 1: if there's worth work ethic issues or you know, things
Speaker 1: like that studying, maybe it'll humble them to the point
Speaker 1: where they they'll get better, you know. But I don't
Speaker 1: see the harmon bringing them in for a workout, especially
Speaker 1: since in this particular case, both of them are guys
Speaker 1: we know that they liked. But I don't think it's
Speaker 1: this drastic and you're like, oh my god, these guys
Speaker 1: are obviously so much better than Cooper Russian Mike quite clear,
Speaker 1: I know I don't buy that, so I'm not losing
Speaker 1: sleep over it. All right, we appreciate you guys joining us.
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