1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: a break? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely ready 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. It's 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, September fourth, twenty eighteen, Season fours, in 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: episode number thirty three. Welcome to a very very special 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: edition of The Break. We are living back on the air, 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: ready to talk some Cowboys football because the season is here. 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: It is week one of the NFL season. We have 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: not had a chance to talk since the roster cut, 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: so we'll spend quite a bit of time today talking 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: about the roster and how this team's made up. But 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: the great part is that the games are starting this 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: week and as of Wednesday and Thursday and Friday, we'll 17 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: be talking about Cowboys versus Panthers, which gets me excited. 18 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, guys, it gets me very 19 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 1: very excited. I'm ready to go. Somebody get feeling good today, 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: feel freaking great? Awesome college football this weekend. That was 21 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: a good weekend for some, not all, but some, and 22 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: it was just good to see football back on. Let's 23 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: start first, this fifty three man roster and this thing. 24 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: I guess when I first when I first heard Nick, 25 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: you you were the one that texted me and said, yeah, 26 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: the roster's out without Dan Bailey, and it was I 27 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: was a bit shocked. I've learned in the NFL, though, 28 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: not to be completely shocked about pretty much anything. But 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: I do want to hear from you guys on what 30 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: your thoughts were. I saw your I saw your tweet 31 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: amber about Dan Bailey. I want to know your thoughts 32 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: about what you thought first when you saw that Dan 33 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: Bailey is no longer part of the Dallas Cowboys. Well, 34 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: we have talked a little bit. I mean, I know, 35 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: not in this group, but we did talk some yesterday 36 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: on a show, so some of some people might have 37 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: heard that. But I'll be real quick. I was really surprised. 38 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: As the day went on Saturday night, I kind of 39 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: was a little bit more bothered by what happened. I 40 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: wrote a column about it. I just didn't feel like 41 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: there was a true competition. Even the Garrett came back 42 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: yesterday and said, you know, they're always competing and all 43 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: that stuff. And he explained some reasons. I don't agree 44 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: with all of them. Actually, um, you know, they can 45 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: do whatever he wants. He went with it with the 46 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: other kicker. I just felt like Dan deserved a better 47 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: opportunity to win his job. He's the best that's ever 48 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: done it for the Cowboys. And if there's confidence issues, 49 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: he had four preseason games because we know they weren't 50 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: trying to win those games. You should have been evaluating 51 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: him and to see if he could make it and 52 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: then move on. And then without just saying we don't 53 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: think he's going to be good enough to move on. Yeah, 54 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: I mean I echo most of that. I was floored, honestly. 55 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't been here forever, but this 56 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: is my six year cover in the team, and I 57 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: don't know that I've ever been more surprised by something 58 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: that happened. And again and yeah, absolutely, And here's the thing. 59 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: Here's what I take issue with, is uh with De's Bryant, 60 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: Like we saw the writing on the wall for months 61 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: and months, even with Jason Witten, we sort of you 62 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: know that's right, you heard rumors that it could happen 63 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: you know, somebody report that he had tried out with 64 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: Joe tessitur like you all you hear this stuff. I 65 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: didn't hear anything about this until maybe fifteen minutes before 66 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: it actually happened, and it came right out of left field. 67 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: And the thing that bothers me is exactly Dan Bailey 68 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: struggled down the end of last season. We all know 69 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: that we watched it happen the a what a cherry 70 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: on a crap Sunday that Philadelphia game was to see 71 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: him play so poorly in such a meaningless and awful game. 72 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: Having seen all of that, you didn't get the first 73 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: idea that the Cowboys had concerns in the long term. 74 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: You know, you didn't hear about it in the offseason. 75 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: It's not in the dozens and dozens of times that 76 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: the Joneses and Jason Garrett talked during the course of 77 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: an off season. It never came up. Dan Bailey struggled 78 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: for two practice days in Oxnard, and the media even 79 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: tried to bring it up, and point blank Jason Garrett 80 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: was dismissive of it. Like, we feel great about Dan Bailey. 81 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: He's made a lot of kicks for us. We're not 82 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: worried about it, and then they pulled the rug out 83 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: from under him right at the start of the regular season. 84 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: And to be fair, again, we said this on the 85 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: show we did yesterday. They know Dan better than I do. 86 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: They are around him more, they see him more, they 87 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: have a better feel for whether or not they should 88 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: have confidence in him than I do. That's fair, but 89 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: I absolutely reserve the right to criticize them for it 90 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: until proven otherwise. Maybe this was the right call, and 91 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: I will give them credit for it if that comes 92 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: to pass. But I just don't like the way they 93 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: handled it. I never got the impression that Dan Bailey 94 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: was in a competition. I wonder if he ever thought that, 95 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: and so it's just it just seems weird to me. 96 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: And yeah, I didn't really love the way at all 97 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: played out. But we'll see. I mean, the great thing 98 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: about that is, especially with a position where the spotlight's 99 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: on you like that, we're gonna know real quick whether 100 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: or not they made the right calls. That's two people 101 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: that don't have a poster of Dan Bailey on their wall. 102 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: Sociall see what happens with someone that I am. I 103 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: am really really upset and when I saw that. It 104 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: was absolutely surprising, especially when you see them giving him 105 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: only one chance. He only kicked the ball once, right 106 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: in the whole preseason. Yes it was only once? Yeah, yeah, 107 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: in games? In games, And a guy that has been 108 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,119 Speaker 1: here so long, that has proven to be so good 109 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: for your team, how do you go about it this way? 110 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: And if you want to talk, And I'm not a 111 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: cap gap whatever expert, I'm not a money expert and 112 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: all that. But if you're like, Okay, that's gonna save 113 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: you about three million whatever, that's nothing. That's like change money. 114 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: If you're a regular pedestrian, that's a lot of money. 115 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: But when it comes to this, I'm like, okay, you 116 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: say you save money by cutting death. What you do 117 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: with that money? Nothing yet, you haven't done it. You 118 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: can carry that money over, So let's say, okay, that's 119 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: why I have to spend it now in order for 120 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: it to be valuable to them for a team that 121 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: already had sixteen million in cap space. I agree with her. 122 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: Three million is nothing nothing. Get all that, I guess, 123 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: and I don't want to. I'm bringing Earl Thomas and 124 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: this is the big work behind it all. Then okay, 125 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: I'll maybe forgive this happening that they need my forgiveness. 126 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: But if that's a plan, then okay, we're good. But 127 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: as of right now, it just doesn't make any sense. Well, 128 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: I guess the way I look at that is, I 129 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: think next year, if let's assume for a second that 130 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: Tank has a really good year, they got to figure 131 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: out how they're gonna pay him. Right, Well, hold on 132 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: just a second, they gotta figure out how how they're 133 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: gonna pay him. They still have a quarterback that's playing 134 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: on his rookie contract. At some point they're gonna have 135 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: to pay him if he continues to progress as they 136 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: think he will. Right, and then let's remember Earl Thomas, 137 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: whether that happens now or not, Old Thomas will be 138 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: a free agent next year. So if they want to 139 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: go after him next year, they will have every opportunity 140 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: to do it, and they're gonna have to pay him. 141 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: Don't forget and ze. So all I'm saying is there 142 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: are things that are coming up that if the Cowboys 143 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: are thinking, hey, let's look at this from a long 144 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: term perspective, and let's assume for a second that they 145 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: look at this and say, this is money that we 146 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,039 Speaker 1: may not have to use Now we can hold this 147 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: money over and we can have it available to us 148 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: next year. Then it does create a situation where three 149 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: million becomes valuable because you have all these different parts 150 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: that you have to sign. But that conversation only becomes 151 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: relevant if you have lost confidence that Dan Bailey is 152 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: the most accurate kicker. Absolutely absolutely, And that's where I 153 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: get back to, or I shouldn't ague back to. That's 154 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: where I think from what they've said, they felt like 155 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: because of the injuries, they felt like because of the 156 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: challenges that he had last year. I think they kind 157 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: of got to a point where they were like, well, 158 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: we don't know that we trust him for the money, 159 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: and then we talk about this conversation all the time. Right, 160 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: if you're paying guy premium money and he's premium player, 161 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: then you feel great about it. You'll pay him all day, right, 162 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: But if you got to a point where you feel like, hey, 163 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: every time he runs out there, we're just as worried 164 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: as we would be with this young this other guy, 165 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: and it's gonna cost us three million less and go 166 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: with the other guy. To be fair, he's had injuries 167 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: two years in a row. His percentage has dipped I 168 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: think three years in a row, but again to nixt 169 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: point where let him let him compete. He got one 170 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: kick in the preseason and I just I won't understand 171 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: that for the life of me. Yeah, and again, how 172 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: does that help him on landing? And I don't think 173 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: he needs that much help to for another team to 174 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: grab him. I think he still has a lot in 175 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: him left. But with the guy that you had have 176 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: had for so long and that you would assume you 177 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: respect and everything because of everything that he has done 178 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: for you, how do you take the ability to showcase 179 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: your talent during the preseason as far as other team 180 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: If that's what you're planning on doing and cutting him, 181 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: why don't you let him show it and allow him 182 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: to see, you know, other teams see what he's still capable. 183 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, and Nick and I would 184 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: have this conversation with walking In today. Could you really 185 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: could he really show it in the preseas? But wait, wait, 186 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: I think that the way that that they probably would 187 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: look at that I would think is if we're worried 188 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: about injuries and we're worried about what he's done the 189 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: past couple of years, Like how We've seen him decline 190 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: and we've seen injuries. He might be great right now 191 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: in the preseason. He might go out and kick all 192 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: those field goals, but that doesn't necessarily make me feel 193 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: better if I'm worried about injuries and if I'm worried 194 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: about the future of where he's going based upon his 195 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: trajectory over the last couple of years. So yeah, I 196 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: could have given him that shot, but that doesn't necessarily 197 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: clear up Mike, Well, you know what I mean, how 198 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: much more important was the last game of the season 199 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: against the Eagles than a preseason game. I mean, they 200 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: both didn't seem to matter in the in the you know, 201 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: on the standings because they were out of it. But 202 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: yet talking to Garrett yesterday, it made it sound like 203 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: that last kick was pretty important that that Bailey missed. 204 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: So if you're going to get valued by a game 205 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: that doesn't matter, there, I mean you should have valued. 206 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: I think Brett Maher's kick of fifty seven yards I 207 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: think that got him on the team, and I agree, 208 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: and I think if Bailey could have got that kick, 209 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: I think it could could have helped him. And again, 210 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: that's the one position that you can show you're telling 211 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: no matter why, no matter who who the other players 212 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: are on the field right now, just a one position 213 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: you can still show what you can do, no matter 214 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: if veteran guys are playing or not. But I also 215 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 1: believe that that's the one position where I'm just as 216 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: what he does in practice is just as important as 217 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: what he does in game lining up and kicking a 218 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: field goal and practice. The only difference is you don't 219 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: have the pressure. So seeing him kick and seeing him 220 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: kick over and over again in practice, that'll give you 221 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: the same kind of confidence. And there was that day 222 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: or two there where he was a little bit off 223 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: the rails. Okay, well liked when he throws the passes 224 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: in practice. Still again it's still a difference. But yeah, 225 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: but that's different a quarterback and a kicker. That's okay. 226 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: Here's something that I think is kind of a really 227 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: underlying problem here that that I think other players need 228 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: to look at around the league, especially here. I've seen 229 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: it now happen a few times. You can be a 230 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: warrior and come come out and play if you're banged up. 231 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you want to come back and fight for 232 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: this team game, but you better be real careful with 233 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: how you play, because if you put bad tape on 234 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: yourself out there, your own team will evaluate that against you. 235 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: I've seen it happen with DeMarcus where he played with 236 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: Hatchers ago because he saw DeMarcus where fight through all 237 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: this stuff, and then all of a sudden he gets 238 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: labeled as a guy that doesn't have it anymore, even 239 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: though he now he has a really shiny left hand 240 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: because of what he did in Denver. I mean, in 241 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: the same with Bailey, we're all forgetting. I mean, Odell 242 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: Beckham got paid. He only played in like four games 243 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: last year. I mean, why was he Because he's great? 244 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: But why I mean he only played in four games. 245 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: He only played in four games. But he's great. He 246 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: wasn't great last year. What's the difference? Did he get hurt? 247 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: But he's great? Nick? I mean, but he Dan Bailey 248 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: was great. Dan Bailey was seven of seven last year 249 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: before he got hurt. Are we not forgetting that he 250 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: got hurt? Dan Bailey was never as great at what 251 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: he does as Odell Beckham is what he That is 252 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: an absolute false statement. That is a false statement. Okay, 253 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: he's not going to lead Sports Center with the top 254 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: ten with a field goal. I get it, being the 255 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: best wide receiver is more lucrative, but Dan Bailey was 256 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: literally the best to ever do it in his possession 257 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Has was Dan Bailey the best last 258 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: year or the year before? Yeah? In the NFL at kicking, well, 259 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: he was the best kicker. Guy over here saying he 260 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: was seven to seven before he got hurt, so he 261 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: was doing pretty damn well. And he was the best 262 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: kicker in the NFL. Yes, last year in the NFL, 263 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: in the year before, in the history of the NFL, 264 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: he was the number one kicker before he got hurt. 265 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: Number two on the Tucker had held to number It 266 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: fell to number two because of because Tucker had a 267 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: good year, and and I get it, a lot of 268 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: those guys are right there that are all active players. 269 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. But I'm just saying, just 270 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: be just be careful when you come back and you 271 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: play it, because because bad tape is bad tape, and 272 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem people don't seem to really. Uh, he 273 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: was kind of playing through an injury to their To 274 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: their credit, the Cowboys give to Marcus Lauren. It's a 275 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: ton of credit for gutting through injuries in twenty sixteen, 276 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: But that could be part of the reason why he 277 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: doesn't have a deal right now too, if he I mean, yeah, 278 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 1: and oh you believe, you best believe when it time 279 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: comes time to have negotiations on a contract, if you're 280 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: a guy that's been hurt, that's gonna come up because 281 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: that helps you drive the Probably think any fan cares 282 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: that Tyrone Crawford was battling through a rotator cuff injury. No, 283 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: they just like, he makes this amount of money and 284 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: he only got four sacks, Like what's the problem? Which 285 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: this goes back to my point in the long run 286 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: that I just would we would have heard something, somebody 287 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: would have said something between December and July. If this 288 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: was like again Dez Bryant was a long discussion and 289 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: the writing was the writing was in ten foot letters 290 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: all over the wall. You could not be surprised by that. Yeah, 291 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: Dan Bailey, this is my opinion. I don't have This 292 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: is I'm not backed up by any fact, but I 293 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: think they kind of just got to a point in 294 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: like mid August where they were like, we're gonna save 295 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: some money and we don't have to worry about this 296 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: guy's back. Let's just get yeah, just yank this, get 297 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: this were with and I think the fifty seven yarder 298 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: got him there. And I really do believe. I think 299 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: that's a crappy way to treat a guy who's been 300 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: I know it's a business, I know, I know, I 301 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: don't care. I still think it's crappy. Tell him ahead 302 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: of time that I mean, he needs to do well whatever, 303 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: like no, no, give him some chances in the preseas. 304 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: That's my point. That's my point. I think that, like 305 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: you said, they got to late mid late August and 306 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: they were like, h I don't know this, this guy 307 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: might be as good as Dan Bailey. And then the 308 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: fifty seven yarder happened, and I think that's when the 309 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: serious conversation started. I think it was a situation where like, man, 310 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: this guy can kick because I had heard, I had 311 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: heard that there were some people around here who are 312 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: already saying this guy is a really, really good kicker, 313 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: and we don't we don't like, we don't love the 314 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: idea that eventually he's that he's going to be kicked 315 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: off out of this place in favor of Dan Bailey, 316 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: because we feel like he's a good kicker. So I 317 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: just think that after that fifty seven yarder, I think 318 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: they that's when it really got into hyper gear, Like 319 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: more people are starting to stand on the table, like 320 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: why would we live this guy go when we already 321 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: have concerns to some degree about Dan. You know what, 322 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm tired of this. I'm just gonna go talk to 323 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: Stephen right now. I want to figure out what's happening here. 324 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: Do it? Go ask him? Go do that. Actually, Nick 325 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: does have an interview with Stephen. Gents, we'll see what 326 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: he comes away from that with. 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Back to the Brink, Welcome Back. It's the 379 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,959 Speaker 1: second segment of the Break Live for the SWBC Mortgage 380 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: studios at the Star and we're talking to Cowboys fifty 381 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: three man roster that talks about Dan Bailey, which is 382 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: a surprise cut of this training camp and may have 383 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: been may have been the surprise cut around the NFL. 384 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: I can't think of another cut around the NFL that 385 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: I was really shocked by like this one, So I 386 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: think it was one that that definitely caught a lot 387 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: of people's attention. Dan did get an opportunity to go 388 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: and trial for the New York Jets. We'll see if 389 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: he actually gets the job. He's not been signed to 390 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: this point, but there's no doubt in my mind that 391 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: before this season has done, Dan Bailey will be kicking 392 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: on somebody's roster. He's just done too much his league 393 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: not to get a second opportunity, and I think for 394 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: kickers that's how it just goes. He's going to get 395 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: an opportunity again and hopefully he'll be healthy and ready 396 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: to go and we'll be able to resume his career. 397 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 1: Let's talk. We're about to move on. But you know, 398 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: I really hate that we didn't get a chance to 399 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: talk to him, and we don't get a chance to talk, 400 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: not to say goodbye, but just to hear his side 401 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: of the story, you know, and kind of see his perspective. 402 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: But again not we don't get a chance to talk 403 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: to anybody that gets cut during this time. But it 404 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: just sucks. You know, you see him last time. I'm 405 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: not knowing that that was the last time you were 406 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: going to see him. That's the thing though, that I've 407 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: in the years I've been around here, That's the one 408 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: thing that I've grown to just kind of get used to, 409 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: and I still don't like it. It's like things change 410 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: so rapidly in the NFL, especially when you get to 411 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: the offseason. I've seen everybody from Emmett Smith to Dion 412 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: Sanders all the way to DeMarcus Ware and Tony Roman. 413 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: I've seen all these guys leave, and when they leave, 414 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: it's just just like that. I was telling somebody and 415 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: maybe you Dave back. During training camp the first day, 416 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: you felt a little bit weird that Jason Witten wasn't there. 417 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: By a weekend, you had completely forgotten about him as 418 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: a part of what this current team is, and it's 419 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: just that's how the NFL is. It moves on, and 420 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: I don't care how big a player you are. I 421 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: don't care how small a player you are. It is 422 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: exactly the same because once you're gone, the building forgets 423 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,959 Speaker 1: and they move on to whoever's in the building playing football. 424 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: From them, You are one hundred percent right. Everything you 425 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: just said is correct, but it leaves a really bad 426 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: taste in my mouth when very accomplished players are treated unceremoniously. 427 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: That's what happened. It does. It happened to Dan Bailey, 428 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: and it's just a reminder players and players don't listen 429 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: to this. But if they did, they don't. You don't 430 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: own this team anything. Don't forget that. Don't forget the 431 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: way they're going to treat you. And for fans listening 432 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: at home, if DeMarcus Lawrence, just if he was sitting 433 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: out right now, I would not blame him one bit. 434 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: Yes I would not, because it's it's a cutthroat league 435 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,239 Speaker 1: and you got to look out for yourself and that 436 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: doesn't jibe with the team first mentality. That only works 437 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: for you when it's in your favor. But as soon 438 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: as you can help the team, they don't care about you, 439 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: and you go, yeah. That's why I always take the 440 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: player's side in these things. I think it's two things. 441 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: I think it is team first. When you're on the field, 442 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: when you're practicing, when you're playing, you should always be 443 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: looking out for your teammates. When it comes to the 444 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: business of the NFL, you are your own business. You 445 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: are an independent contract. You are your own business. It 446 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: is your responsibility to look out for what's best for 447 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: you as a player first, for you and your family first, 448 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: and then figure out how that affects the team. But 449 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: you're right, but these teams, these teams will were disappointed 450 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: that Levion Bell can't be here to help his teammate 451 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: get out of here. I'll never never, I'll never feel 452 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: like that. I always feel like when it comes down 453 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: to it, because again, these contracts are not guaranteed. So 454 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: I think players have every right to do what's best 455 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: for them from a business stamp. Once they're in the building, 456 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: it should be all team. They should be looking out 457 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: for their team because that's the only way you can 458 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: get success, because if you rely on your teammate and 459 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: your teammates can't rely on you. But when it comes 460 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: to the business of the NFL, just like the teams 461 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: look out for themselves. It's no different than all of 462 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: us in our everyday jobs as well. You know, at 463 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: the end of the day, and employer's responsibility is to 464 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: create a good business that makes money, right. It is 465 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: not to make sure you're taking care of and you're comfortable, right, 466 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: So think about that and make decisions that are best 467 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: for you and your family that fit into the concept 468 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: of the company that you work for. It is not 469 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: one of those things where they're gonna always be loyal 470 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: to you because they're ultimately going to make the best 471 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: decision for their business. Correct. All right, So let's move on. 472 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about the couple of transactions 473 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: that have happened here over the last couple of days. 474 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: Noah Brown initially was placed on the active roster. He 475 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: has now been moved to IR and they have now 476 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: taken that spot and signed Deontay Thompson. I don't think 477 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: there's much of a surprise here, Dave. It seems like 478 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: back during training camp you were talking a lot about 479 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: I think you were one of the people that say 480 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: Dante should make this team. This was a way to 481 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: get him onto the team. He didn't get signed by 482 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: anyone while he was cut, so it were it's actually, 483 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: I mean, speaking of looking out for your own best interest, 484 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: it's a pretty genius way of roster maneuvering. I mean, 485 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys aren't the only team that does this. But if 486 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: you cut Noah Brown on Saturday, he goes through waivers, 487 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: you might not get him back. So you keep him 488 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: on the roster. You cut the vested veteran and say, 489 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: Deontay hang here at the Omnian Frisco for thirty six hours. 490 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna put Noah on IR so we can potentially 491 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: bring him back and we don't have to risk losing 492 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: him to another team. And as soon as we do that, 493 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: we'll sign you back. You'd be good to go. It's 494 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: common maneuvering, but I love that fun little you know. 495 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 1: It's the jigsaw of how to make everything work and 496 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: work in your favor. So let's talk about a couple 497 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: of other transactions. Darius Jackson, so on the Cowboys practice 498 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: squad got signed away by the Green Bay Packers. Good 499 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: for him, which I was saying to you guys in 500 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: the break. You look at all the gay at the 501 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys cut that we were all kind of handwringing over 502 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: and who's gonna, you know, who should they cut? Is is 503 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: is a hard decision, I think, and I maybe I 504 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: may be wrong in this. I think there was only 505 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: one that got signed by another team, and that was 506 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: Darius Jackson to the Three Bay Packers. And to me 507 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: probably rightfully so um outside of maybe my pick ked 508 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: Brian Price, but I think, well he's gone to You're right, 509 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: he's gone, but he hasn't been signed, right, I don't 510 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: think he was. He was claimed by the Oakland Raiders. Okay, 511 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: so he did get claimed. That's so. Actually I wrote 512 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: about this yesterday. Cat maneuvering it worked out well in 513 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: the Noah Brown instance, you hold on to Deontay Thompson. 514 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: But basically they were going, I mean, Dayton Jones is 515 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: gonna go to I R. And they were gonna do 516 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: the same thing and say, well, we want to bring 517 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: Daytone back, so we got to keep him. Brian, We're 518 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: gonna cut you, You're gonna go through waivers and we're 519 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: gonna bring you back. Oakland had better had other ideas, 520 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: and now Brian Prices in Oakland Raider. That's the costa, 521 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: that's I mean, you take that risk, and that's why 522 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,239 Speaker 1: they didn't want to do it with Noah Brown, right. 523 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: But those two players, Darius Jackson, Brian Ice or two 524 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: players I think showed a lot in the preseason, and 525 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: really Brian Price going back to last year, this was 526 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: not just about the preseason for him, and both of 527 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: them end up on other teams. But that's the thing, 528 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: and this is another thing we talked about in the break. 529 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: Every team has guys that are on the bubble for 530 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: them during training camp that they're like, this is gonna 531 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: be hard to cut this guy. I don't know if 532 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: we can get him back. And just as in the 533 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: case of Lance Lenore and Charles Tapper, Cowboys found that 534 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: you put him out there by cutting them, they still 535 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: were available to him to make them a part of 536 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: their practice squad. They were literally I think, I mean 537 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: there are more than a thousand cuts over the course 538 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: of the weekend, and I think forty guys got claimed 539 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: across the league. So I mean, once you get to 540 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: a certain point on the roster, everybody's got guys that 541 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: fit that profile, and teams prefer to hold on to 542 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: their guys because they know the system and they don't 543 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: have to teach him something new. So unless you think 544 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: you can drastically upgrade, which I'm excited for Darius, I 545 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna go anywhere. But Aaron Jones 546 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: is suspended Green Bay. Jamal Williams is a second year guy, 547 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: and Time Montgomery's a wide receiver playing running back. So 548 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: although he plays it pretty well, I'm not you're right, 549 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: but there it should be opportunity there for Darius Jackson 550 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: to maybe do something. I hope. I hope for him, 551 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: so doubt. All right, let's talk up a little bit 552 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: about Travis Frederick. Travis Frederick was a guy that going 553 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: into cuts, there was a thought that the Cowboys could 554 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: possibly decide to hold on obviously put him on the 555 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster because they don't want to risk 556 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: cutting him obviously, but what they might do is at 557 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: some point move him to IR because of the rules 558 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: that now they could bring him back after eight weeks 559 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: or eight weeks, that would give them the ability basically 560 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: to give him half a year to be able to 561 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: get right and then they could possibly bring him back. 562 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: They did not make that decision. They have kept him 563 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: on the active roster for now. Does that make you, guys, 564 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: feel better about the situation and what you think is 565 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: his status or prognosis is I think it makes me 566 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: feel worse, to be honest, really, yes, Why well, I'm 567 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: a natural pessimist, you know that. But here's the thing. 568 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: They kept him on the fifty three, which suggests optimism, 569 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: But at the same time they say, we don't know, like, 570 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: we don't have a timetable. We're not even worried about 571 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: that yet. It's we're worried about Travis's health and we'll 572 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: deal with that when it comes. But all the reports 573 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: have been positive. That's awesome, And I care way more 574 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,239 Speaker 1: about Travis's health as a person than I do as 575 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: a player. The Cowboys have Joe Looney, they claimed Alex Redmond, 576 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: who can play center, so I feel good that they 577 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: can handle the physical aspect of this without Travis. But 578 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, Okay, what if this changes. You don't 579 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: know enough to know when he's coming back. What if 580 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: three weeks from now, four weeks from now, you realize 581 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: now maybe the optimism wasn't well founded, and then you 582 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: put him on IR now he's gone until December probably, 583 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: whereas if you just did it Sunday, you know, you 584 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: don't even worry about it until whatever mid October and 585 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: then you can make your best decision from there. So 586 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: with so many unknowns, I think i'd rather or just hey, 587 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: take two months and we'll bring you back if we can, 588 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: and if not, that's fine. Now you're gambling on getting 589 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: him back, you don't have the extra roster spot, and 590 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: if it doesn't work out the way you want it to, 591 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: you lose him for even longer. But are you missing 592 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: anything with that extra roster spot? Was Brian Price your 593 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: example of where you could have used that roster spot? 594 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: Brian Price could have played on Sunday and Travis Frederick cannot. 595 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: So I mean, I I'm not saying it's definitely the 596 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: wrong move. And to your point, like the fifty third guy, 597 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: is he really He's probably not going to address I understand, 598 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: but it just it worries me when you're dealing with 599 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: so many unknowns. That's I don't even feel one hundred 600 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: percent comfortable talking about it because it's such a unique situation. 601 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: And I hope that he's healthy more so than I 602 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: hope he can play football. So I just I almost 603 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: wish that they were just like, you know what, some 604 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: things are more important. Let's just let's just stash you 605 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: for two months and worry about it and we'll see 606 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: where you are. You know, never give me some optimism. 607 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: I wish I could. No, I don't feel good about this, 608 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: this decision. And here's why his condition it is. And 609 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure they know way more than we do. But 610 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: at the same time, from what I from my understanding, 611 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: this type of condition, it's very hard to determine how 612 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: long you're gonna be out for or all that. So 613 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's kind of you take it day by 614 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: day by day or week by week. Therefore, why not 615 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: use that spot for something else where? The Cowboys they 616 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: have plenty of spots that are in need. And what 617 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: worries me is that sometimes the Cowboys are a little 618 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: too optimistic in a way. You know, they think it's 619 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: it's just gonna work out. And I keep going back 620 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: to Tyren Smith situation, where again, we all knew his 621 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: back problems, we all knew where he was standing, and 622 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: still you didn't really work on getting that backup spot 623 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: ready and making sure you were well equipped for if 624 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: whatever happened when he came out, you were able to 625 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: go on with it. And I think I see this 626 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: kind of it's a different scenario, But I don't know 627 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: if I'm making sense right now. If you know, my 628 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: point of view is I think that sometimes they're a 629 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: little too optimistic with certain things, and then some other 630 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: things they're they're not as optimistic. So it's just it's 631 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: just weird. I don't understand. I get he's your best player, 632 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: one of your best players, and you want to have 633 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: him on the field when you can and all that, 634 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: But as of right now, looking at everything they've said, 635 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: why not just get let him be out for eight 636 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: weeks and even then if you know if he's ready 637 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: to come back, great, But if it's not, I'll boil 638 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: it down really simplistically for you, just yes or no. 639 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: What do you think is more likely that Travis Frederick 640 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: makes this incredibly remarkable recovery and is in the lineup 641 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: week five when the Cowboys go to Houston, or Travis Frederick, 642 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: if he can do anything, is back doing football stuff 643 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving in December. Well that was the reason I asked 644 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: the question. Is My thought was if they made this decision. 645 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: They probably know more than days you're right publicly or 646 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: said to us right, because the thing about it is, 647 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: I don't think you just make this decision unless you 648 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: have reason to believe that he has a legitimate shot 649 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: to be back before that eight week period is up 650 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: to be fair, and what they say publicly, that's one 651 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: thing we know from what we've seen over the years, 652 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: you don't always say publicly what is fully known. On 653 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: trust that they know more than I do. But again, 654 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: I can only go with the information I have, which 655 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: is two weeks after he got diagnosed, they're still saying 656 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: no timetable. We're way more worried about his health as 657 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: a person than anything relating to football. It doesn't sound 658 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: like a guy who's gonna be ready to play football 659 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: in four or five weeks. But that's also I mean, 660 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: you have to keep saying that because again, the unpredictable 661 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: nature of this injury or this this disease, this syndrome, 662 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: whatever it is, it's unpredictable. And so even if they 663 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: feel like they've gotten good reports that suggest otherwise, they 664 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: have to keep publicly saying we don't know they got 665 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: when we were in ox. Now California. It was like, 666 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: oh yeah, everything came out, came back good, We're good 667 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: to go, blah blah. Then comed back to Dallas, still 668 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: not practicing, and he gets more stuff and it's like, 669 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: come to find out he's diagnosed with this decease. But 670 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: once again, I don't believe in this is my own 671 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 1: personal belief. I don't believe they were saying publicly at 672 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: that time what they knew. What they were saying was 673 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: everything's fine because they didn't want to ring the alarm 674 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: until they knew more. Right, Yeah, they are, don't. You 675 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: can't convince me that they and Travis and everybody that 676 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: was in the inner circle didn't know that this was 677 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 1: more serious than just a stinger, right, you can't convince 678 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: me of that. So if that's the case, then once 679 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: again they said what they had to say publicly. But 680 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: that's that doesn't have anything to do with what's really happened. 681 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: You're one hundred percent right, because after all this happen, 682 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Zach was Zack Martin was even 683 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: talking like, yeah, like it was really scary at camp, 684 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: Like he was talking about, you know, how he didn't 685 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 1: feel as strong and blah, blah blah. So right. I 686 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: know that I don't know the whole story, but trying 687 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: to offer informed analysis as best I can, you only 688 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: go it doesn't sound like it's realistic to think he's 689 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: gonna be able to do meaningful things for you until 690 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: after the IR window anyway, And honestly, with all the 691 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: uncertainty and the fact it's an autoimmune disease. Again, it's 692 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: not as hamstring. He's got a disease in his nerves. 693 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: It just sounds scary, just it absolutely is. Honestly, I 694 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: just remove the temptation to worry about football and just say, hey, 695 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: we'll see you on Halloween. But that I mean, hey, 696 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: so we'll see. I don't know. Maybe maybe he's gonna 697 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: play Week four and I'll admit that I was wrong, 698 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: but and we'll see. I don't know. Let's take our 699 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: final break. When we come back, we do have to 700 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: take a talk about the safety position. We always dedicate 701 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: a segment to the safety position, so why not today too, 702 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: when we come right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot 703 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: Com Radio. Cowboys fans know that the second best of 704 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: anything simply won't cut it, and your skincare should be 705 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: no different. 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At the start, Nick's 743 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: back with us. Hi got anything good from Stephen? I'm 744 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: you know. I asked if there was a trade in 745 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: the you know, he said no, not right now, and 746 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: now stop asking me. I did. I did ask if 747 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: Karen Reid would be the guy that they're gonna bring 748 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 1: best since Brian Price was not um he was picked 749 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: up and claimed by the Raiders. Um, And he said no, 750 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,479 Speaker 1: that they're gonna keep Daytone Jones on the roster. He's 751 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: been growing. Injury for him, I believe, so hamstring, Um, 752 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: he's been yeah, but they feel like he's making progress 753 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: to the point where he'll probably be able to play, 754 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: maybe as soon as the second game against the Giants. 755 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: So um it's a game of the season again, not 756 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: the second game against the Giants, but um, just week 757 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: two of the season. So it looks like Dayton Jones 758 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: and Frederick are going to be your two guys that 759 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: stay on the roster. Say that's they were gonna put 760 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: him on IR yesterday when they thought they'd get Brian 761 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: Price back and they didn't. And I guess maybe they 762 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: just think the drop off is that noticeable, or maybe 763 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: they got a different report on his health. I don't know, 764 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: but I hope it's that because I mean, why would 765 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: you even cut Price in them begin with that's yeah, 766 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: so you know, I don't if you think you can 767 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: be there for week two, I'd say it's worth it. 768 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: But so two of your fifty three, I mean we 769 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: got two of the enacted, we got three of the ENACTORAD. 770 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: But that just seems kind of that just seems weird. 771 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: It just seems weird. Like it's like, Okay, on Monday, 772 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna bring back Price if he clears waivers, so 773 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 1: then they'll put Jones on. Why even do that on Sunday? Then? 774 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: Why don't you just put will you sign your guard 775 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: that you want to keep? You know? Redman just put 776 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: Jones on. They couldn't. They couldn't get them. Then that's right. 777 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: They couldn't put Jones on IR on Monday. I just 778 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: answered my question, Wait why not? Because on Sunday they 779 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: couldn't put him on IR on Sunday they had to 780 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: put him on Monday. I thought they I thought you 781 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: could do. Oh no, you're right, yeah, Oh God's never mind. 782 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: I just talked myself out of that. Okay, Sorry, I 783 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: get it. Thanks Steven. Well, Nick Joan just just in 784 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: time to talk about safety. It's a position we've talked 785 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: a lot about Um. I guess let's start first with 786 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: the signing that the Cowboys made. They signed, say Ibraheim 787 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: Campbell Um. And I don't know how much do you 788 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: guys know about Campbell, if anything about you know, is 789 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: he a special teams type player or is he got it? 790 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: That's a that's been a safety? Like, what what do 791 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: we know about about Campbell's played four or five has 792 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: played four years in the league. Again, I say, to 793 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: make this joke a lot, He's got the same amount 794 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: of interceptions as we do, doesn't have an interception, which 795 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: means he's probably a special teams type guy. I know. 796 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: Does have starts though, right, he's eleven. So that's eleven. 797 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 1: Was that last year or was that four years ago? 798 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,959 Speaker 1: Early in his career earlier he's been a special teams guy. 799 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: He's got eleven more starts, eleven more starts than every 800 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,959 Speaker 1: safety not named Jeff Heath, got it? So, I mean 801 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: so again, this is again, this is just a guy 802 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 1: that's a band aid temporarily until you can hopefully get 803 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: some healthy safeties back. It's it sounds like they're at 804 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: least optimistic that Cavon might be available for Carolina. I 805 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: think Xavier Woods is ruled out and so Robinson plays. 806 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna patch it together between Tyree Robinson, 807 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: Ibrahim Campbell and hopefully Cavon Frasier. Hey, I know that 808 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: that there's people in this room that like what Cam 809 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: Newton does. I don't think he's a great passer. If 810 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: you're playing a better passer this week, would you would 811 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 1: you maybe change your mind on what you do, think 812 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: on how you do things, Like if this is Aaron Rodgers, 813 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: I mean at this point though, I mean, I know 814 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: theoretically you could go trade for Earl Thomas theoretically, but 815 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: realistically really meaning you're not just giving up the bank 816 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 1: or whatever you gotta do. Well, like, realistically, what more 817 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: could they do right now? Well? They I mean, but 818 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: the schedule hasn't changed. They'd known all along that they 819 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: were going to play Caroline in week one, and they 820 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: might have to not have his Xavier Wood. It might 821 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: have been different if there was somebody else, if you 822 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: had Giants week one, maybe that changed, right, wouldn't play 823 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: the Giants in Week one? That ever happened? How many? 824 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 1: How many quarterbacks on the schedule this year of one 825 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: NFL MVP, Matt Ryan, I am Newton, Okay, I knew 826 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: that you were gonna go here, and I get it. No, 827 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: he's not great. He's not the most accomplished passer in 828 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: the NFL. I get it. But like the most accomplished 829 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: runner in the NFL, and you got it for pointing 830 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: safeties wind up making those type of tackles too. That's 831 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: what I was actually gonna say is I'm I'm more 832 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: concerned about can they tackle in the open field when 833 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: they got him one on one? He's if he's back 834 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: at the safeties, you've got other issues going on and 835 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 1: our right, which you might. I mean, I just think 836 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 1: that you think about how this offense is, like they 837 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: got some playmakers on their offense. It's not just Cam. 838 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: I mean that that running back runs, So that may 839 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: be why you're where your linebackers are preoccupied, you know, 840 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: after him. I really don't, um. I know, I get 841 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 1: your point. I know what the stats say. Cam Newton 842 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: is not a great pure passer, But you're not gonna 843 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: hide a bad safety against an NFL MVP. I don't. 844 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Either whether it's running or throwing, 845 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: you're not gonna hide well. And he's also got a 846 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: great tight end unless 's an injury or something that 847 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: he's got a pro Bowl tight end. McCaffrey looks like 848 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 1: a stud. I don't really know what DJ Moore has 849 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: been doing, but he's there. Tory Smith is this is 850 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 1: a pretty decent white Smith is there. I mean he 851 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: wasn't great for run. He can run run. Yeah, So, 852 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: I mean there's there's some things we'll talk about this tomorrow. 853 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna get into the Panther's offense tomorrow. But are 854 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: we doing that where Dave's gonna have his his chart 855 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: and I hope so? Great? Okay, cool, Yeah, we're taking 856 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: the Panther's offense tomorrow. So get it ready, Dave, get 857 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: out the game past Thursday. You better be up till 858 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: midnight taking notes on the tape. That's that's the job, bro, 859 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: that's cool job. We got it cool all right? Um So, 860 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: so I guess at this point from the standpoint of 861 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: of the safeties, it's pretty apparent this is what they're 862 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: rolling into the season with. YEA, they feel comfortable with it. 863 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: Do we know anything more about Xavier Woods and and 864 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 1: is this just the one week thing or is this 865 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: something that Lingers even into the Giants game, where again, 866 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: I personally believe that you got a lot more challenges 867 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 1: when you start talking about the receiving threats in New York. 868 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: Let's wait and see kind of what practice looks like. 869 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not saying he's going to be on there, 870 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,439 Speaker 1: but what he's doing on the other fields. If he's 871 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 1: on the chords this week, if he's able to do that, 872 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: that's a better sign that we're getting closer to practicing. 873 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: Maybe this week you're making for next week. You're making 874 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: a mistake if you're trying to put a hard deadline 875 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: on a soft tissue injury, which Jerry Jones has said 876 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: that he thinks they think he can be ready for 877 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: New York. Jerry Jones is eternally optimistic, and you never know, 878 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean hamstrings especially. We've seen that time and time again. 879 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 1: So take that with a huge grain of salt. I'm 880 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 1: waiting until like Thursday of week next week before I'm 881 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: making a call on Xavier Woods. There's one final question 882 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: I want to get to with you guys about the quarterbacks. 883 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys kept both quarterbacks backup quarterbacks in Cooper Rushing Mike 884 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 1: White two quarterbacks that the Cowboys had a lot of 885 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: interest in we're trying to trade up for in the draft. 886 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 1: A couple of years ago. Paxton Lynch and Connor Cook 887 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: are both available after being cut. The Cowboys consider going 888 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: out and getting one of those guys to replace one 889 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,879 Speaker 1: of the guys that they have here. I don't think so. 890 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: You know, they're available because their team gave up on them, 891 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,839 Speaker 1: and you know, they had plenty of time to learn 892 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: the system and show what they can do, and they 893 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 1: showed what they couldn't do, And now you're going to 894 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: ask them to come in and probably I would imagine, 895 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 1: I don't know this. I would imagine learning the offense 896 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: was probably an issue for both of them, or they 897 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't be you know, or if not, then their talent 898 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: isn't as good as they thought. So I think you 899 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: got a chance to see some of them. If you're 900 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: gonna put them here, are they going to be that 901 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 1: much better than what you have? I mean, I don't 902 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: think I would go that route, but just to play 903 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,879 Speaker 1: Devil's advocate, at some point, the Cowboys were really willing 904 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 1: to give up a first round pick and more because 905 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 1: they were gonna have to trade up to get packs 906 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: to Lynch. Does that at least make you think even 907 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: if we brought him in as our third guy, a 908 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: guy that we're going to develop, we should give that 909 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 1: a shot because we thought so highly of him back then. 910 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 1: The only thing that depreciates faster than a car is 911 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: like a draft pick. I'm serious, Like, yeah, Jerry Jones 912 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 1: is killing himself for not giving up the third to 913 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: go up and get Packson Lynch. And now we don't 914 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: have to debate about this because Jerry already said this 915 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: morning they're not interested, which I wouldn't have claimed him. 916 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: But I don't see the harmon bringing them in for 917 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: a workout now that they're street. But they got Mike White, 918 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,839 Speaker 1: who I mean, they valued him. He basically hasn't had 919 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,919 Speaker 1: a chance to suck yet. I mean, I'm not saying 920 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 1: he will, but you get my point, Like there's more 921 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,800 Speaker 1: reason to be optimistic with him than there is having 922 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: two years of Paxson Lynch tape. Teams talk too, they 923 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 1: talk to each other. Why'd you cut him well? Because 924 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 1: he does this and this, you know it doesn't do that. 925 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: Maybe he maybe this will humble both of them to 926 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 1: the point where like if there's some issues. Maybe if 927 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: if there's worth work ethic issues or you know, things 928 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: like that studying, maybe it'll humble them to the point 929 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: where they they'll get better, you know. But I don't 930 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 1: see the harmon bringing them in for a workout, especially 931 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,280 Speaker 1: since in this particular case, both of them are guys 932 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: we know that they liked. But I don't think it's 933 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: this drastic and you're like, oh my god, these guys 934 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: are obviously so much better than Cooper Russian Mike quite clear, 935 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: I know I don't buy that, so I'm not losing 936 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: sleep over it. All right, we appreciate you guys joining us. 937 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 1: We're back tomorrow in our normal time. What'll be our 938 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 1: normal time for the season will be eleven forty five. 939 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: We'll be on every day from eleven forty five to 940 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 1: twelve thirty. I know it's only forty five minutes, but 941 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 1: we will get a lot into that forty five minutes. 942 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: So until then for Nick, even Dave Elman, and regard see, 943 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: I'm Derek Eagles and this has been the Break live 944 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a 945 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys 946 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 1: Football Club.