1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Noll. They call 6 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer 7 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: Alexis God named Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you. 8 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this the stuff they 9 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: don't want you to know. It is the top of 10 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: the week. We are hurdling headlong into February, and we're 11 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: encountering some things that we think need more attention because 12 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: as as you know, a lot of stuff is slipping 13 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: by the mainstream national or international reporting spheres simply because 14 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: it's not because the journalists are trying to hide things 15 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: all the time. It's because there's a ton of stuff happening. 16 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: You know, we are offline. We've been keeping close eyes 17 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: on Kazakhstan and Ukraine. Uh. We we know there's always 18 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: something happening with the world of cryptocurrency and f t s. 19 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: We're going to also talk about some crimes, some explosions 20 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: that haven't made more news yet. In a very weird way. 21 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: But first, maybe we could travel to the produce aisle, 22 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: the just picture wherever you get produced. If you get 23 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: it from a farmer's market, great for you. I don't 24 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: have my life together to that point yet. But you know, 25 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: we eat our veggies here on stuff they don't want 26 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: you to know. And I realized I never asked you 27 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: guys this, But Matt Noel, you remember when that kind 28 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: of trope or meme about people our age being broke 29 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: because they eat too many avocado sandwiches. You remember when 30 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: that hit avocado toast specifically bent, which is I guess 31 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: kind of an open face sandwich. But yeah, yeah, that's 32 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: that's the wave of the of the hipster millennial future apparently. 33 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: And I don't know why it's expensive. You can if 34 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: you just get an avocado and a piece of bread, 35 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: you can make your own avocado toast. But if you 36 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: buy it a fancy avocado toast TATORI, um, then that's 37 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: that's a pricey item. I have a very fond memories 38 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: when I first began drinking alcohol of going to my 39 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: local store and buying limes all the lines because you 40 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: could use them in everything. And we don't have to 41 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: talk about all the different kinds. But oh, lines were 42 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: the stuff. So wait, you were more excited about purchasing 43 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: lines than you were about purchasing the alcohol itself. Yes, 44 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: because the line really just it didn't matter what the 45 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: alcohol was. That the lime he knew it was. Yeah, 46 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: and then maybe you were buying the lie times after 47 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: you would had a few. So it's easy to get that, 48 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: you know, slight buzz of excitement. You know, picture you 49 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: with the cashier, because here's registered going. Maybe think if 50 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: this guy likes lives, you would be correct, ma'am. Where 51 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: shoplifted lots of lives. It was just you know, just 52 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: to feel alive. You know. They called him, they called 53 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: him the lime bandit legend in AUGUSTA. Well, I like that. 54 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: We're segueing to crime here, because despite the ridiculous low 55 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: level crime, despite the ridiculous absurd nature of of those 56 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: bad faith claims that people our age and younger are 57 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: experiencing wealth inequality because they're eating toast. Uh. I hope 58 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: everybody can tell that is what Joe Biden would call malarkey. Uh. 59 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: Despite those stories making news, there are other stories that 60 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: relate to erectly to produce to avocados, two lives, and 61 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: they're they're important, and they spell trouble in the future. 62 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: Here's what's happening. A lot of these things are produced 63 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: in Latin America, in Mexico, avocados and lives in particular. 64 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: And Mexico is famous for many, many, many things. It's 65 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: the home of ancient Mesoamerican cultures and so on. Nowadays, 66 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: it is also infamous for the role of drug cartels. 67 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: Even if you've never seen narcos, even if you've never 68 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: been on the border or seen drug related gang related crime, 69 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: you know that cartels in areas of Mexico are increasingly 70 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: becoming like state level actors, you know what I mean, 71 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: to the point where law enforcement in the country will 72 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: have some serious cost benefit analysis before they go into 73 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: certain regions, and the cartels are in some cases buying 74 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: off the police force. When you think of cartels, you're 75 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: probably thinking, like, you know, cocaine, maybe marijuana trade, even 76 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: though there's not so much money in that as it's 77 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: becoming increasingly decriminalized here in the US, meth especially because 78 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: it's so simple to make. But there's another hustle. The 79 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: cartels have another hustle. There in the avocado game, there 80 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: in the lime game, and this this is so odd. 81 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: So you may have heard about the avocado like cartels 82 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: getting into avocados for an extra income stream, but in 83 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: certain parts of Mexico, drug cartel wars are also affecting 84 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: the price of limes. So the young Matt Fredericks and 85 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: the audience ahead can get your lines now. Don't panic, 86 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: and don't drive inebriated, but do go get your lives 87 00:05:54,440 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: because these different cartels are taxing low lime producers there. 88 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: They're essentially treating it like a war tax, and they're 89 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: fixing prices. And this is exacerbated by the global supply 90 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: chain problems and of course by climate change. Right current 91 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: society is going to see a lot of arable land 92 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: lost in your lifetime. But if you if you look 93 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: at the price of lines, what you'll see is that 94 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: lime prices have been on the rise for years, and 95 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: they have some predictable spikes during the winter months. Right 96 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be a little more pricey to get 97 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: your lines. I want to give a shout out to 98 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: Emily Green writing over a Vice World News. This is 99 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: some of the best reporting i've seen of this. Uh 100 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: in the US. A drug cartel war is making line 101 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: prices skyrocket in Mexico. So in just December of last year, 102 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: well last month, you know, as we record this, line 103 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: prices had shot up sent over what they were in. 104 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: Right now in Mexico City, lives are selling for the 105 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: highest price they have ever sold, and the price is 106 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: even higher in northern Mexico. And a lot of that 107 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: is because the part of Mexico that grows the most 108 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: winter time lives or supplies those during the winter months 109 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: and to stay on the Pacific coast. And right now 110 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: the Alisco New Generation Cartel or c J I n G, 111 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: and another bunch of local near du Wells called the 112 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: United Cartels are beefing and what organized crime is doing, 113 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: there's not a thing on you Montreal before before you 114 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: send the email, these cartels are doing something similar to 115 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: what the Maple Syrup Consortium does in North America. They're 116 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: limiting the amount of limes that people can harvest to 117 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: manipulate eat the price. And then once they've driven up 118 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: the price, they're doing a calculation and they're going back 119 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: to the farmers and they're saying, hey, because of the 120 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: because we limited production, the price of lines has gone 121 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: up by x and because we did that successfully, just 122 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: so everyone is safe, you should donate percentage why to 123 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: our cause. And they've also like physically cut the number 124 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 1: of days people can go on the farms and actually work, 125 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: like not three days anymore, it's only two days a week. 126 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: And the scary thing is if anybody bucks against these folks, 127 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: cartels have no like, no hesitance, no compunction about just 128 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: brutally murdering people. You know, they don't have an HR. 129 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: So it's the cartels themselves going through who are who 130 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: are drug cartels? Correct? These are these are drug cartels 131 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: and they are controlling the market for lines. That's insane. 132 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: It wouldn't expect it. It wasn't on the bingo card, 133 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: as we used to say during the pandemic, right uh. 134 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: And in some cases the cartels are also buying up 135 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: the packing plants that's where that's where the limes would be, 136 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, a package that would be branded as whatever, 137 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: and then they would be shipped off around the world. 138 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: And it is a quick way to make money. Because 139 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: it's this local price fixing in a place that has 140 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: serious corruption issues is a lot safer than trying to 141 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: run drugs and guns over the border. So if you 142 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: look at it, this guy's the limit, the lines the 143 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: limit man. Because the higher the price of limes is 144 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: for everybody, the more money. Uh. These cartels will see 145 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: very quickly, and there's a feedback loop being created, I 146 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: would argue, because they're making quick money off lines the avocados, 147 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: and then other cartels are getting in the aime and 148 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: they're funneling that money into their wars with these other cartels, 149 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: which means the other side is also going to start 150 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: looking for even more funding, which means more lime producers 151 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: are going to find themselves, um are going to find 152 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: themselves tragic bystanders in a very violent conflict. It reminds 153 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: me of that old proverb, what was it when elephants 154 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: make war, it's the grass that suffers. These folks are 155 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: are the grass here. It also makes me wonder what 156 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: else is going on with other trades that occur, you 157 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,599 Speaker 1: know in Mexico. You I'm thinking about products like tequila 158 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: and how much control is you know, put on on 159 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: some of those like farmers who are actually like generating 160 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: the plants that become tequila. And it also makes you 161 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: wonder how much you know, if you imagine packing companies 162 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: and shipping out massive amounts of lines and avocados. You 163 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: you imagine, at least from my mind from the TV 164 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: shows and movies that I've watched, where getting drugs across 165 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: a border often occurs within a legitimate shipping business of 166 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: a company shipping products like let's say lines or avocados, 167 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: and then there's weapons somewhere within that shipment as well, 168 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: or drugs. Um I imagine that could be very helpful 169 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, yeah, And this is uh Michoa, can 170 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: is the is the Pacific state in Mexico that we're 171 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: talking about. They were also the epicenter of the green 172 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: Gold scandal, that's what the media was calling the deal 173 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:38,239 Speaker 1: with avocados and cartels. That state alone grows on average 174 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: just under a million tons a million tons of avocados 175 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: every year and eight hundred thousand tons of limes. And 176 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: just just as you said, Matt, it's really difficult to 177 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: figure out exactly how much money these groups are making 178 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: off this. It's also difficult to figure out how much 179 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: of that price spike that people see, you know, when 180 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: you get to the grocery store. How much of that 181 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: is a result of organized crime, How much of that 182 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: is just you know, the eternal gamble that is agriculture, 183 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: and how much of that is COVID related inflation and 184 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: other shenanigans. It's it's weird because if you look at 185 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: reports by the actual Mexican government, they do put organized 186 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: crime down as a factor in these price spikes. Oh, 187 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: they're also, by the way, if you don't play ball 188 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: with them, they're destroying roads that line producers need, so 189 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: they're stranding them. Uh, the roads just got reopened. In fact, 190 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: actually the roads just got reopened this month, and no 191 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: one knows how long that situation is going to continue. 192 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: To sum this up, because I think this would be 193 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: interesting for us to do a deep dive in a 194 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: in an episode in the few to sum this up. 195 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,599 Speaker 1: You're absolutely correct, Matt. There are other industries being affected. 196 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: Limes and avocados get a lot of attention because Mexico 197 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: produces so much of those agricultural products. But this is 198 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: rent seeking from industries, and often it doesn't matter exactly 199 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: what that industry is. You could have an electronics manufacturer 200 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: that has to pay protection money. You could have a 201 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: fart jar manufacturer that has to pay protection money. Uh yeah. 202 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: So uh that's that's gonna be another, you know, another 203 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: industry fast on the rise, as their fellow conspiracy realists 204 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: have confirmed. Uh So with that, I want to pause 205 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: and ask people to let us know if you have 206 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: any personal experience with this industry lives, avocados, cartels, then 207 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: we want to hear from you. We want to hear 208 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: from the boots on the ground, So give us a 209 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: call one eight three three st d w y t K, 210 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: or drop us line conspiracy at i heeart radio dot com. 211 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: The very last thing I want to say is that 212 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: I had another great story about Corvid's that are being 213 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: trained to pick up litter. It's amazing. But I didn't 214 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: want to just always talk about crows, because this is 215 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know, not stuff they 216 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: don't want you to crow. I yield my time. We're 217 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: gonna pause for word from our sponsor, and we'll be 218 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: back with more strange news. And we're back and then 219 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: you can talk about Corvid's all you want, and should 220 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: We don't even have to change the name of the 221 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: show because I sort of made a habit of late 222 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: on this Uh, segment of talking about the stupidest thing 223 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: on the Internet and n f T s, I hope 224 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: you aren't getting too tired of it. Um. I think 225 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: I've plugged one of my favorite YouTube channels internet today 226 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: quite a bit. UM. I quite often get turned onto 227 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: interesting stories from those guys. And they even did a 228 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: disclaimer when they did their most recent episode, uh that 229 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: they were not becoming the n f T Show. There's 230 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: just so many stupid and hilarious developments in the world 231 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: of Don Fungible Token. So I uh off my hat 232 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: to those guys, uh and also apologize. Maybe, but I 233 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: think it's gonna think it's gonna be worth it. I 234 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: think you guys are gonna be on board because a 235 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: little better combination is there than combining a stupid Internet 236 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: grift with a bunch of trying to stay hip to 237 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: the time um celebrities kind of on their way out 238 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: of of being relevant um. And the two of those 239 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: celebrities in question today are none other than Ozzy Osbourne, 240 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: the Prince of Darkness himself. One could argue the man 241 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: doesn't need to stay relevant. He's he's done what he's 242 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: gonna do. He bent the head off those that bat 243 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: and bathe and doves blood on stage whatever. And he 244 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: made some fine records as well. Let's just you know, 245 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: give him credit where credit is due. Huh are you 246 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: are we about to talk about crypto bats? Yeah? Oh 247 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: my god, crypto bats. Okay, you know, maybe I let's 248 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: save it the other the other celebrity, because this is 249 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,479 Speaker 1: sort of an example of two um of these celebrities 250 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: kind of scrapping for Internet relevance. Uh, handling something completely different, 251 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: handling this this some debacle. Uh, let's just call it 252 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: what it is, completely differently, So they n f T 253 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: bats because we know n f t s are collections 254 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: limited collections of basically JPEG's most of the time, or 255 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: it can be animated gifts, they can be little videos 256 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: that can be really whatever you want. You can mint 257 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: anything that is a digital asset as an n f T, 258 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: and the minting process essentially creates a record on the 259 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: blockchain that says this is my thingy and nobody else 260 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: has this exact thing. But then you know, there's become 261 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: this culture of people like right click saving the other 262 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: people's n f t s and presenting them as their own. 263 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: The people that actually bought the n f t s 264 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: don't really like that, but there's not much they can 265 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: do about it, so it's almost like a troll, you know, 266 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: of these people that are like, ha ha, see I 267 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: have it too. I just screenshot a like, no, you 268 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: don't really have it. That's my crypto. Bat looks like 269 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: skeleton lazy lion or was a board ape? Do you 270 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: see that? Jimmy Fallon apparently bought a board ape for 271 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: two and fifty thousand dollars and then showed it off 272 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: on That's a Night Show. But she was kind of 273 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: stuck on. Pete Davidson and Colin Josh and uh and 274 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: their buddy buying the Staten Island ferry. Who is that 275 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: guy we talked about like an n FT of the 276 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: Staten Island fairy, you know, thebought the actual faery. Yeah, 277 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: I can get behind that. Honestly, they probably they probably 278 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: who knows, I don't know how much. You know how 279 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: much they paid. H Yeah, it's around two hundred and 280 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: eighty thousand dollars, which seems, you know, it's a lot 281 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: of money, but when you're getting a ginormous fairy, that 282 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: feels kind of reasonable, and it's already got a business 283 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: purpose associated with it. It's the thing is gonna make money. 284 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: Hopefully it's just fairy people, right, presumably back and forth 285 00:17:53,800 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: from a venue. Okay, so it's the instantly we've listed 286 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: three use cases for for this purchase that makes it 287 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: somewhat meaningful to somebody eventually somewhere. No, we have, and 288 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: you're trying to get back a track, Noel, but I'm 289 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: watching Ozark because the fourth season four point one or 290 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: whatever just came out. That was the whole point of 291 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: money laundering for them, was buying a boat upon say, 292 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: it was the whole point. That was another another way 293 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: to launder money. It wasn't like they were like gunning 294 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: for the whole like you know game, you know, river focused. 295 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: You know, they just became another grift along the way, 296 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: which is what this whole n f T thing cartel 297 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: should be in n f T s right, I had 298 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: completely you know what it is all kind of a cartel. 299 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: And now as he's in on it. So these crypto bats, 300 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: these little guys um that are you know, there's I 301 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: think nine very cleverly nine thousand, six hundred and sixty 302 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: six devil horns I'm making over here of these little guys. 303 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: Some of them are like headless. They're all different, they're 304 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: kind of they're cute, honestly, of all of a lot 305 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: of the f T s I've seen, these are kind 306 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: of cool because they have kind of an eight bit 307 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,719 Speaker 1: look to them, which I did, you know, I think 308 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: we all can get behind that, like kind of a 309 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: Nintendo you know, um side scroller, kind of Castlevania type vibe. 310 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: I see one here that looks like a magua. There's 311 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: one that's like skeletor, like I said, there's one that's 312 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: wearing a little suit. They're all the same exact shape, 313 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: and they all have different color schemes and color you know, 314 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: and looks and all that stuff. I think right now 315 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: they're going for around fifty or sixty bucks apiece. But anyway, 316 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: the whole point is this Ozzie announced it, you know, 317 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: on his Twitter and on his social media, and I 318 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: think with Sharon, you know, along by his side, and um, 319 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: a lot of these n f T launches, these drops, 320 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: they are tracked and kind of the communities that that 321 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: that you know, kind of jump up around them, uh 322 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: use discord to kind of talk about it. So there's 323 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: all these discord channels not really quite understand what's so 324 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: special about Discord, but I I've used it, and I 325 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: get white people kind of like it's clean like interface 326 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: or whatever. But I don't quite get what's so special 327 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: about it. But I think maybe it's just become the 328 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: kind of like you know, NERD communication platform of choice UM, 329 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: and that's what people are using for this. So what 330 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: happens with Discord is you know, you have like a 331 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: unique U r L that you can you know, promote 332 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: to uh your followers or whatever, and you can have 333 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: like a Discord server. We could have we should have 334 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: a Discord server for like people listening to the show 335 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: and do like live streams and things like that. So 336 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: there's all kinds of us of people obvious sason to 337 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: play video games together as well. But they're also used 338 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: to track these these crypto and ft drops. And what 339 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: happened was apparently I don't know exactly why, but the 340 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: pre sale, which is called a white list, the pre 341 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: sale for the crypto bats and f T s um 342 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 1: open on December and all this information was via Discord. UH. 343 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: People who were there to sign up get guaranteed a 344 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: crypto bat um. They get them forty eight hours before 345 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: the public minting process, which goes live in February, so 346 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen. Yea, We're still talking about the presale 347 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: um via that crypto bats website, so this is kind 348 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: of like a getting on the action before everybody else. Um. 349 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: So apparently for some reason they like changed the u 350 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: r L um after launching the discord they at some 351 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: points they changed the u r L slightly and really quickly. 352 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: Some Internet scammers got wise to this and posted the 353 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: incorrect or actually what happened. So think about this. If 354 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: someone changes their Twitter handle or like an Instagram handle, 355 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how long it takes, but somebody else 356 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: can use it that that becomes available again. So I 357 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: believe what happened was they co opted the u r 358 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: L for the discord server that was changed, and then 359 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: posted all kinds of fake information there literally like a 360 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: dummy site to all these crypto things that use Web 361 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: three point oh, which allows you through the browser extensions 362 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: to connect your crypto wallet directly to whatever your sing with, 363 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: like whatever, you know, there's a little button on all 364 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: these sites to say connect wallet, and this site did 365 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: something like that, but it was like a dummy Uh, 366 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: site or like a fishing kind of thing. I think 367 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: about like an Internet equivalent of one of those devices 368 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: you can put in like a a t M or 369 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: a gas pump too, like captures people's credit card information. Essentially, 370 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: this is like a little more elaborate version than that. 371 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: And essentially they had it where it was like it 372 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: seemed legit. It's like, hey, before you enter into this 373 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: amazing once in a lifetime opportunity, we verify the crypto 374 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: that's in your wallet, So go ahead and hook it 375 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: up for us real quick, and we'll just take a 376 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: look and make sure that you've got the funds that 377 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: you say you do. Um. You know. The thing it's 378 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: weird about this is anybody that's experience of this kind 379 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: of stuff would know that that's really not right. But 380 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: the guy's Internet today made this point as well, and 381 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: I completely agree. Uh. The problem is that all of 382 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: these celebrities getting into this NFC space are bringing in 383 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: new people that are not seasoned crypto people, you know, 384 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: and there are people that are like figuring this stuff out, 385 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: and it's not uncomplicated, like if you're someone who's this 386 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: is new to you. There are many many points along 387 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: the way where you could either mess up and like 388 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: accidentally lose some funds or get scammed because you're not 389 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: really quite used to what you're looking for these red flags. 390 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: So they didn't ultimately steal that much money. I think 391 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: it was in the neighborhood of like thirty thousand dollars total. 392 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: But the problem was that Ozzy and like people associated 393 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: with his camp, they retweeted the bad link several times 394 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: and it wasn't until I think, like the Verge or 395 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: something reached out to them that they realized what they 396 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: had done and changed it. And they actually didn't even 397 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: take responsibility for it. The site that the Crypto bats, um, 398 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: you know partners, I guess you know, this is obviously 399 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: Auzzy partnering with the company. It's not like he said 400 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: at home, you know, uh, punching in all of this 401 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: stuff on his own computer. Um. So the statement to 402 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: The Verge from the company's Sutter Systems developed the Crypto Bats. 403 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: They said, although we feel very sorry for the people 404 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 1: that have fallen prey to these scams, we cannot take 405 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: responsibility for the actions of scammers exploding discord a platform 406 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: that we have absolutely no control over. Uh. The co 407 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: founder of Setter Systems. His name is j Peggy J 408 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: j peg j E p e g g I. Um. 409 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: Surely that's his Christian name. Um. In our opinion, the 410 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: situation and hundreds of others that have taken place across 411 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: other projects in the n f T space could have 412 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: easily been prevented if Discord has just had a better 413 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: response support fraud team in place to help big projects 414 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: like ours. Uh So that's that's coming to just go 415 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: back to my whole point. It's like, why Discord, And 416 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: if you know enough about these weaknesses to make this 417 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: statement so quickly, why not do something about it on 418 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: the front end to protect your you know, users and 419 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: customer base or whatever. So I don't know, um, pretty silly. 420 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: So in the end, it was the Discord link that 421 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: caused the problems, right yeah. But also like they switched 422 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: the links mid stream for whatever reason. It initially used 423 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: the oral discord dot gg dot crypto bats with a 424 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: z n f t um and then it was changed 425 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: to Discord dot g g slash crypto bats with no 426 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: n f T at the end. So it's it's you know, 427 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's they're full for changing in mid stream. 428 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: The developers and like if you were looking at both 429 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: of those like, I wouldn't have really clocked that they 430 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: were that different. So it it's the fact that they 431 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: had those bad links just like circulating for like a while. 432 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: I would I think it's kind of sale ridiculous that 433 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: they wouldn't take responsibility for it. I think I remember 434 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: hearing that even Ozzy Osbourne had on his Twitter feed 435 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: or some other social feed the bad your right for 436 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: quite a while. That's right. Um, So that's you know, 437 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate, not a great look. Um, I will say, 438 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: do you think these little cryptobauts their like you know, 439 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: the stupid lazy lions and um, you know board apes 440 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: of the world. Um, I've got one other one that 441 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: to me is kind of a quick, you know, positive 442 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: story about this. Do you guys know who Richard carn is? Yeah, 443 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: you know him. Remember I don't think he's the Home 444 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: Improvement he's the sidekick or the actor who plays the 445 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: sidekick on Home Improvement. I believe you mentioned him on 446 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: a on a recent Strange News or Listener male segment. 447 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: I remember his name, Yeah, yeah, Richard karn uh he yes, 448 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: that's right. He played al the lovable sidekick al Borland 449 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: on Home improvement. He's he's made a real good go 450 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: of of it with that character. And I think he 451 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: did like a series of some kind of hardware store, 452 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: you know, TV commercials were basically played that character. I'm 453 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: not mistaken. He did Little Smoky's, those little sausages for 454 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: quite a while. They found a little Smokey's, you know, 455 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: for your backyard barbecue. But um, you know, some of 456 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: his I guess representation, which seem us to be happening 457 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: across the board for a lot of celebrities and companies, 458 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: suggested that he get in on the n f T 459 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: craze um. And I'm not quite sure what his thing 460 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: was even gonna look like. Um, but he apparently was 461 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: set to launch one and then a lot of people 462 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: hit him up directly and said, don't do this, al 463 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: don't do this, you know, don't we We can't lose 464 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: you to the dark side. Um. And he decided to 465 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: walk it back and made a very thoughtful post. And 466 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: I thought long and hard about n f T s 467 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: and I decided it's not something I need to do, 468 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: and then praying hands and heart emoji. So I just 469 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: appreciated that, you know, everyone to everything is it's never 470 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: too late to think twice if something is in fact 471 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: you know, and just because someone tells you it's a 472 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: good idea to jump into the latest craze doesn't necessarily 473 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: mean that you you should do it. Like Brian you know, 474 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: for example, he's all to say, get excited about the 475 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: upcoming stuff. They'll once you know n f t s right, 476 00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: totally yes, get excited three or thinking we can make 477 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: play with cryptid something crypt cryptid bats now they need 478 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: to be more than just bats. Well, well we'll talk 479 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: you through with our representation. But uh, you know, Brian 480 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: youoh is one of my favorite record producers and just 481 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: incredible smart, creative dude and futurist. Um. He used a 482 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: really great word I've never heard before. He um very 483 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: British lee and slyly Uh said that it's sweet that 484 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: artists can have their own cute little version of financialization. Um. 485 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: And financialization is apparently a British kind of parlance meaning uh, 486 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: a term sometimes you used to describe the development of 487 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,479 Speaker 1: financial capitalism during the period from nineteen eighty to the president, 488 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: in which depth to equity ratios increased in financial services 489 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: accounted for an increasing share of national income relative to 490 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: other sectors. Sounds like arbitrary word ization if you ask 491 00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: me that whimsical term. Very humpty dumpty. Yet, so keep 492 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,479 Speaker 1: in mind the stuff they don't want you to know. 493 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: Badger n f T s coming, Badger bags excepted only 494 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 1: in ben Bucks. So get it on the ground floor today, 495 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: which is a brand new coin which will be introduced 496 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: in the year after the n f t s which 497 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: are only or you can pay with avocado or lime, 498 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: and f T s perfect as long as they were 499 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: produced by someone who's not a drug cartel. Now, Matt, 500 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: I, I I really appreciated your story and your personal share 501 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: there about your lime period. Um, I gotta say a 502 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: lime is a lot cheaper than an avocado. Sometimes it 503 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: depends on the market, it depends on the state to here. 504 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: And you're right, limes just sometimes are out of season. 505 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: There are periods where you like can't find limes, so 506 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: they are a little bit of scarcity to those as well. 507 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: Kind of like n f t s. They're like the 508 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: n f t s of the of the fruit Kingdom, 509 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: just like there's such a thing that the fruit Kingdom. 510 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: I didn't just make that up. Entirely. I have a 511 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: book about that on my phone. We have a book 512 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: with my son Yep Yep Man the Futures. Weird guys. Um, 513 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: Let's let's take a beat to consider our place in 514 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: the universe, and then we'll be back with another piece 515 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: of strange news. All right, we're back and we are 516 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: heading to Sacramento, California for our next story. This comes 517 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: to us via the local ABC, Fox, and NBC affiliates there, 518 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: as well as the Facebook page of the Sacramento Police Department. 519 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: It's a story that's been developing for over a week 520 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: now at this point. Uh first heard about it. I 521 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: want to say last week around the twenty three of January, 522 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: that is when there was a strange story that came out, 523 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: just very very localized, came out of Sacramento that stated 524 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: possible vehicle explosion in in an unoccupied vehicle that was 525 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: parked in the neighborhood in Sacramento, California, and it was 526 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: just strange. It was weird as a little blip on 527 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: the radar right where we look for these strange news 528 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: segments every week and we see all kinds of weird 529 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: little stuff and it just pops on our radar, and 530 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: that's what this was. In this case, it was very strange. 531 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: Let me just read to you from the Sacramento Police 532 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: Department's Facebook page what they said about it. Quote on Sunday, 533 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: January three and approximately pm, Sacramento Police Department patrol officers 534 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: responded uh in this area regarding a possible explosion. The 535 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: officers located an unoccupied vehicle with significant damage consistent with 536 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,719 Speaker 1: an explosion occurring inside the vehicle. What that's weird? An 537 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: unoccupied vehicle that exploded from the inside. Okay, that's a 538 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: bit puzzling just at the start, right, unless there was 539 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: like a window open or something that an explosive could 540 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: be dropped in you went on an occupied vehicle, or 541 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: unless the person who you know owned the vehicle set 542 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: off an explosive inside of it. Or there could also 543 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: be a scenario where it was, you know, someone opened 544 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: the door through force or something and then placed an explosive. 545 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: Just very strange. But police department looked into that and 546 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: nothing really happened until on January another unoccupied vehicle exploded 547 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: and they were called out. And they say it on 548 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: their their Facebook post here as well. Just very strange. 549 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: They conducted an extensive investigation and they were able to 550 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: determine there were no injuries, and they believe it was 551 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: a homemade explosive device that was used to detonate both 552 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: of those vehicles in Sacramento. So guys, when you when 553 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: you're just in your neighborhood or hanging out in your 554 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: wherever you live, and you hear a little pop or 555 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: a fairly large explosion, would ever think that it could 556 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: be a vehicle exploding? Um? Yeah, only because I've seen 557 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: it happen you have, like from malfunction overheating or something 558 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: like that. Or yeah, yeah, from poor vehicle maintenance. Uh 559 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: nothing like no like grand theft, auto RPG launch or anything. Um. 560 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: But but yeah, so not not due to criminal activities, 561 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: but definitely I just kind of assume everybody's seen an 562 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: explosion like that, like even the remnants when you're in 563 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: traffic or something. No, wow, maybe I need to move 564 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: to you. No, no, No, there's there's gang activity all 565 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: over on that side, and then an airport on that side. Uh, 566 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: It's it's terrible. There's there's loud pops all the time, 567 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: and and airplanes, um, I don't know, don't appear. Okay, 568 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: we should also point out the this has got to 569 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: be common in other cities. But there's the famous unofficial 570 00:33:54,840 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: ongoing game in Atlanta called fireworks or gunshots. Right, that's 571 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: just a related thing when you're asking. But but for 572 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: many people, the thing is, you don't have to be 573 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: a ballistics expert or a fireworks expert to understand the 574 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: difference between the sound of gunshot and the sound of 575 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: an explosion. Explosions sound very different, right, So what what 576 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: was the do we know like the magnitude of these explosions. 577 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: I don't know that I've got officially the magnitude there 578 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,240 Speaker 1: were enough to explode the vehicle where when the police 579 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: officers arrived on the scene, they could tell that both 580 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: vehicles had had an interior explosion where their pieces of 581 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: the vehicle, you know, all over on the ground, and 582 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: there were witnesses who heard or experienced the explosion. Quote, 583 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: both cars were severely damaged. And the crazy thing at 584 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 1: the time, in that particular neighborhood and Sacramento where this occurred, 585 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: both explosions were less than point four miles away, so 586 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: this was a localized thing. So if you're living in 587 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: that neighborhood, you're thinking Oh lord, either our vehicles are 588 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: just deciding to self explode or somebody is doing this. 589 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 1: And it turns out only a few days later, somebody 590 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: was doing this at least according to the Sacramento Police 591 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: Department and their findings. And this is the Oak Park 592 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: area of Sacramento. They recently, as of today that we're 593 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 1: recording this, on January one, they arrested a twenty three 594 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: year old man on felony charges linked to both of 595 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: these explosions. Uh. This this man, I'm gonna name him. 596 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: He was named in ABC News department, yes, yeah, as 597 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: well as the Fox website and other places that I 598 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: looked at. They're naming him as Cody Wiggs. And he 599 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 1: was being held at least as as of this recording, 600 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: is being held without bail in Sacramento County Jail. And 601 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: it's just very strange. I don't know, this guy was 602 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: just setting off pipe bombs. They were pipe bombs that 603 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: he generated, that he created. It was setting them off 604 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 1: in unoccupied vehicles. And it doesn't appear that there's any 605 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: rhyme or reason, at least not based on the what 606 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: the writing that I've seen on the investigation, unless there's 607 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, something that they haven't mentioned yet in the 608 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: news as of this moment. Yeah, so this sounds like 609 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: it could be an episode of Law and Order. As 610 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I feel like I've seen an 611 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: episode of Law and Order about people bombing these vehicles. 612 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: But it's so much trouble to go through to make 613 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 1: a pipe bomb, to stay off the radar, to not 614 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: get caught planting them, to get away with two. Uh. 615 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: It seems like the police know that the guy was 616 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: planning to do more. Right, it was still building pipe 617 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: bombs actively, but because it's so much trouble, it doesn't. 618 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: It's an impulsive thing, right, There is usually some sort 619 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: of rhyme or reason, unless the person is one of 620 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: those arsonists who is just like fundamentally psychologically bound to 621 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 1: create explosions on some primal cognitive level. Yeah, we don't 622 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: know much about this Coney Wiggs person. We do know 623 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: that he was carrying a concealed dirk or dagger and 624 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: faces misdemeanor charges. There's a dirk in a dagger matters 625 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: as a fantasy fiction Dragon Dungeon enthusiasts. Can you explain 626 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: this to us? Well, now, this is this is tough 627 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: for me. I'm not going to give you the you know, 628 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure you can look up. Dirk, in my mind 629 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 1: is very much a stabby thing is to be stabbed. 630 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: It's a dagger, I would It's a kind of dagger, right, 631 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: like a maze is a kind of puzzle. A dirk 632 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: is a dirt, sounds like for some reason. I think 633 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people think of like a spear or 634 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: something like that. But a dirk is like originally from Scotland, 635 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: so it's a kind of dagger from there. Yeah, it 636 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: appears to be a dr Internet tells me that it 637 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: appears to uh involve a sheath most of the time 638 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: and has a guard on it, you know, so it 639 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: is almost like a miniature sword, whereas a dagger can 640 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: be more utilitarian probably, although I always think of dagger 641 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 1: as stabby as well, but it can also be slicy. Again, Yeah, 642 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: I like think of the dag. A dagger is a term, 643 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: just like puzzle is a term, and amazed is a 644 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: sort of puzzle, just the same way that a dirk 645 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: is a type of deck. That's so great, See, it's 646 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: so funny. In my mind, it goes back to ultimon 647 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: online and an ultimonline. There are two different I'm just 648 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,919 Speaker 1: gonna say this because that's what my mind is doing, 649 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: and I apologize to everyone listening. But there are two 650 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: different skills that you can learn. One is piercing, where 651 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 1: it's like stabby things, and the other is slashing, which 652 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: is like swordy things. And that's what I imagine Dirk 653 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: is more stabby dagger. You know. I've found something interesting 654 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: about Cody Wiggs. It looks like he was arrested in 655 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: as well when he was he was just eighteen, along 656 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: with a guy named a Zeus Enrique. They found a 657 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: loaded firearm and drugs meth in Wiggs is possession, and 658 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: then his pal and Riquez also had some sort of narcotics. 659 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: So this guy is familiar with the law enforcement system, 660 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: or I should say they're familiar with him. This is 661 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: not his first first time out, you know. Yeah, And now, Matt, honestly, 662 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,919 Speaker 1: I have to have to maybe reassess my initial take 663 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 1: when I said this is a lot of planning. People 664 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: usually have motivations and play, whether they're you know, like 665 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:58,280 Speaker 1: ideological or financial, what have you. But when meth enters 666 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: this scenario, we don't know those we don't know what 667 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: those motivations could be, because meth does such crazy things 668 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: to the mind. Yeah, it just depends on if their 669 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: users or if they're trying to traffic it in some 670 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: way or both. Um. Anyway, this is just a weird story, 671 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: and I feel terrible for anybody living in that neighborhood 672 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: that had to go through to seemingly random vehicle explosions. 673 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: That's not a fun thing to go through. I hope 674 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen again. If you hear anything more about 675 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: this story, we'd love to hear from you. Or maybe 676 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: you're in the neighborhood you've got some more information, we'd 677 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 1: love to hear from you, Or if you've got more 678 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: information on celebrity n f T s. I mean, we're 679 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: always down to hear about that, or maybe cartel activities 680 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: with the produce in your area. Yeah, you can contact 681 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: us in a number of different ways. Yeah, tell us, 682 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: tell us what other industries are getting leaned on by 683 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: the cartels. Tell us what news about the cartels is 684 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 1: not making Western media, because there there is a lot 685 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: there that's still kind of hidden in the shadows of discourse. 686 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: As as Matt said, there are many ways to speak 687 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,240 Speaker 1: with us. You don't just have to have a Wegia board, 688 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: but you can give that, give that a go if 689 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: you want. You can also if you're if you're not 690 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: prone to uh trying supernatural methods of contact via a 691 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: mass marketed board game, you can contact us online Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, 692 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: maybe a discord. We talked about that in the past, 693 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 1: but we've got some got some new exciting developments that 694 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: may allow us to actually have a discord. But until 695 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: that day, here's where it gets crazy. On Facebook, you 696 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: can see conspiracy stuff show on Instagram, and you can 697 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: see conspiracy stuff on Twitter. You can also find us 698 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: under our individual handles, not just as a show, but 699 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: as people. I am at Ben Bull and b w 700 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: L I N on Instagram get a sneak peeking upcoming 701 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: research and misadventures, or at Ben Bull and HSW on Twitter. 702 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 1: How about you know you can find me on Instagram 703 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: pretty much exclusively where I am at how now Noel Brown, 704 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: And you can find me uh Instagram at crypto Bat's 705 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 1: n f T for reals sixty nine and that's with 706 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 1: three x is at the end, right, but they're silent. Uh, Well, 707 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: it's within six within the words. Well, who is that guy? 708 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 1: Alternate upper and lower case. I'm talking to a different person. 709 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,359 Speaker 1: But don't make my mistake, folks. And if you if 710 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,919 Speaker 1: you don't like social media, if you abhor it, don't 711 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: trust it. If you're again it, as they would say 712 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,479 Speaker 1: in the South, they never fear. There are several other 713 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: ways you can contact us. Yes, give us a call. 714 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: Our number is one eight three three S t d 715 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: w y t K. Again one eight three three S 716 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: T d w y t K. When you call, please 717 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,280 Speaker 1: give yourself a cool nickname. 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