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Speaker 1: It's no Welcome to the Naughty but Nice Show. Amya house,

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Speaker 1: drump Shooter. It's Thursday. Well, normally every Thursday, I dear

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Speaker 1: friend Mark Lupe joins us. But Mark is with his

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Speaker 1: family in Greece, a family vacation. Remember I think he

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Speaker 1: told us he's going to be away for two weeks.

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Speaker 1: We have a big surprise today. It's not Friday. It's Thursday,

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Speaker 1: but our Friday friend Cory is joining Good Today. Corey.

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Speaker 1: Are you there? I am here for a thrilling Thursday.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to rebrand it strange.

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Speaker 2: No, well, listen, I mean, it's just that I almost

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Speaker 2: get to kick off my weekend early though, because I

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Speaker 2: don't have to get up so early tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: That's all right, you could go out to dancing tonight,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Thank you for filling in for Mark today.

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Speaker 1: It's really really helpful. Let's jump into Asher. What time

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Speaker 1: is it, my friends? It is time. Big story at

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Speaker 1: the top of the show, everybody's talking about Amy Rubek

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Speaker 1: and t J. Holmes. Remember those two. They were the

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Speaker 1: host ofs GMA three, the co hosts, and then they

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Speaker 1: got handsy with one another and then they sort of

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Speaker 1: lost their job, which I still don't totally understand they

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Speaker 1: were both going through separations. Now. The timing's always fuzzy.

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Speaker 1: Whenever we do these timelines of the relationships, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at you, Brad Pitt and Angelina Jerry, they never quite match.

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Speaker 1: At Ariona Grande, I'm looking at you too. They always

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Speaker 1: when they get together, these celebrities always hell, we never

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Speaker 1: got together until after we got separated, and it's a

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Speaker 1: bit of a crossover, which probably happens in real life too. Unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: So ultimately they were fired and they've really worked since.

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Speaker 1: So they did get a big payout, So don't worry

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Speaker 1: about money. They've got a lot of money that's coming

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Speaker 1: to an end. They launched a podcast, they did tons

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Speaker 1: of meeting, but what they really did was get photographed

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Speaker 1: all around New York by the paparazzi, which I have

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Speaker 1: to admit I believe they enjoy a little bit. So

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Speaker 1: they were at this event a few nights ago. Mister

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Speaker 1: was there. It was actually Mister who spotted almost and

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Speaker 1: they were really really handsy. At one point TJ was

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Speaker 1: like really because like you know, when you see a

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Speaker 1: couple hands and it's lovely. This was like that couple

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Speaker 1: we've all seen them. They just can't stop kissing and touching.

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Speaker 1: We get it, Amy TJ. We get it. You are

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Speaker 1: in love. I believe you. I'm not doubting you. I

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Speaker 1: believe that you love each other. But why do you

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Speaker 1: have to show the world. It feels a little bit

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Speaker 1: too much. Narrow personal little note here. I went to

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Speaker 1: a wedding about a year ago. A dear friend of

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Speaker 1: she's very close with Amy. I've met Amy many time.

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Speaker 1: I'm socially through our mutual friend the wedding, Aim Hindj

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Speaker 1: with Dirty the wedding. Yeah, okay, what do you think, listen?

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Speaker 2: I have a theory about that. You know me, So,

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Speaker 2: I think there's a psychological component to this. I think

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Speaker 2: they have become a brand together, and they're this hot,

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Speaker 2: actually they're turned on by the attention they receive when

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Speaker 2: they act as way in public. I bet you they

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Speaker 2: go right home and they put on the fluffy slippers

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Speaker 2: and flannel pajamas and they're watching, like you know, Flintstones

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Speaker 2: episodes on like Nickelodeon, Like, it's not that this is

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Speaker 2: love to see people watch them. It's a voyeuristic attraction

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Speaker 1: Probably a part of. I think it's a bad attention,

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Speaker 1: like moderately famous. I didn't really think if I didn't

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Speaker 1: her name. There's a lot of really beautiful, really smart

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Speaker 1: this is what the problem is. Whenever they get really

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Speaker 1: a round. It's a circle, isn't it. They have realized

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Speaker 1: if they like attention, which they do, if they like

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Speaker 3: What, it's worked again. It's absolutely that's worked again. So

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Speaker 3: do we stop talking? They're they're not going to stop

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Speaker 1: The Hudson River. It's beautiful, Cory. I always, not always,

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Speaker 1: but I often see Amy and TJ running down there.

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Speaker 1: They're both big runners. The two of them run like

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Speaker 1: They're like holding wastes. They're doing like a conga line

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Speaker 2: It's totally bs and I'll tell you, but they have

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Speaker 2: to be very careful, Rob, you know. Protecting your brand

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Speaker 2: when you do become famous is also another part of it.

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Speaker 2: That same public that has just built you up loves.

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Speaker 1: To tear you down. You go too far, so watch

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Speaker 1: it with that brand. They do, And I would say

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Speaker 1: to them I was a marketing expert for for a

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Speaker 1: long time. You too, Corey, what is your brand? Like?

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Speaker 1: What is your brand? Do like honestly in forwards or

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's perfectly fine if they said our

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Speaker 1: brand is just sex, our brand is affection, right, great,

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Speaker 1: So what are you going to join? Only fans because

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Speaker 1: you do that? To do with that, right and then

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Speaker 2: But right now it feels very performative and like and

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I find that with my friends, not my celebrity friends,

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Speaker 1: us to our whole question of the day. Amy and

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Speaker 1: TJ got really raught you when they were out together

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Speaker 1: there are these two trying to Are they just trying

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Speaker 1: to hear your results. Hey, Corey Love, what are you

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Speaker 1: working on? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know we haven't heard from Megan Marco's dad

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Speaker 2: for a while, which is I'm not sure that's good

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Speaker 1: You can you all can make that judgment on that.

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Speaker 2: But her father's making news again here because you know,

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Speaker 2: he's struggling apparently in the Philippines. That's after he moved

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Speaker 2: Would be something where he could heal the old wounds,

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Speaker 2: especially the ones with Megan, But so far, nothing's changed.

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Speaker 2: He just took his same misery elsewhere. And this is

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Speaker 1: When you're really smart, really smart, Yeah, you carry it around.

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Speaker 1: It follows you around, doesn't it. If you are not

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Speaker 1: Think a change of locations can change you is silly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't. And I think the reason a lot of

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Speaker 1: So you go back to live there, and then all

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Speaker 1: really did betray Meghan. We can't we can't emphasize enough

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Speaker 1: also two sources tell me there's a trust issue there,

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Speaker 1: that's how Harry's family feel about him. It's interesting, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: We're always talking about Harry's relationship with his family, and

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Speaker 1: hope they find some peace, not just for the dad's sake,

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