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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Gatty and no Hee.

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Speaker 3: Armstrong and Yetty, Meta and YouTube were found liable for

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Speaker 3: negligence and failure to warn in a landmark case that

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Speaker 3: could set the precedent for thousands of trials to come.

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Speaker 4: The jury also deciding that both companies acted in malice,

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Speaker 4: oppression or fraud. That brings the total damages to an

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Speaker 4: amount of six million dollars. That's for both punitive and

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Speaker 4: compensentory damages, with Meta to pay a total of four

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Speaker 4: point two million dollars and YouTube to pay one point

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Speaker 4: eight million dollars.

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Speaker 5: First of all, those are tiny amounts of money, but

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Speaker 5: it does open the door to suing the pants off

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Speaker 5: of these big companies because of their male suppression and

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Speaker 5: fraud and the finding that metas Apps and Google's YouTube

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Speaker 5: were deliberately built to be addictive. Yeah, every product is

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Speaker 5: built to make you use it.

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Speaker 2: As much quot addictive.

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Speaker 5: The NBA tries to make it as watchable as possible,

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Speaker 5: hoping you'll watch every game and never stop, and Lace

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Speaker 5: Potato Chips tries to make it so you can't stop

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Speaker 5: eating them, and that there's endless examples.

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Speaker 6: So I just don't understand. Well, and that's that's sloppy

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Speaker 6: journalism to me. I mean, it's like saying, why did

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Speaker 6: you leave your wife? Well, because she's of the och

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Speaker 6: Oh okay, no, no, no, you've got to define that term.

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Speaker 6: That's actually begging the question. That is, you know, pretending

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Speaker 6: that the very good you know, your answer is an answer.

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Speaker 2: It's not an answer. Well, why did they sue? Why

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Speaker 2: did they win the suit?

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Speaker 5: Because it's addictive, specifically citing the endless scrolling on Instagram,

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Speaker 5: which you know, if you've ever used Instagram, it just

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Speaker 5: keeps giving you interesting stuff.

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Speaker 2: So does YouTube.

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Speaker 5: How's that illegal or or something you should be embarrassed about?

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Speaker 5: And again, we hate these companies, both of us, yet

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Speaker 5: they do and their products and it's bad for you

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Speaker 5: and you shouldn't take them in. But likewise, cheetosk On.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear some more of the reporting and then we'll

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Speaker 2: throw in our two.

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Speaker 4: Cents meta responding quote, we respectfully disagree with the verdicts

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Speaker 4: and will appeal. Team Mental health is profoundly complex and.

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Speaker 7: Cannot be linked to.

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Speaker 4: A single app with a Google spokesperson saying we disagree

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Speaker 4: with the verdicts and plan to appeal. This case misunderstands YouTube,

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Speaker 4: which is a responsibly built streaming platform, not a social

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Speaker 4: media site.

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Speaker 2: Well I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don'pe believe. I don't know if any companies are

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Speaker 5: really responsible. They're they're they're they're they're objective. In fact,

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Speaker 5: their legal requirement is to maximize profit. So the morality

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Speaker 5: of it within the law is all they gotta do.

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Speaker 6: A YouTube making an interesting point there, Uh, even if

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Speaker 6: you're right about all this, we don't do that.

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Speaker 2: Really, we just have videos people, Yeah, and I seem

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Speaker 2: you what you like.

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Speaker 5: Prior to this trial, I didn't. I didn't know YouTube

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Speaker 5: was a social media company. I don't get how it is,

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Speaker 5: but I guess we've expanded the term from what we

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Speaker 5: used to usually mean when we said social media company.

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Speaker 2: One more clip and then we'll talk.

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Speaker 8: We've sent a message with this that you will be

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Speaker 8: held accountable for the features, regardless of whether the children

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Speaker 8: are getting sent pornographic pictures, regardless of whether they're being sexploitated,

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Speaker 8: regardless of those types of issues, just because of the

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Speaker 8: features alone that drive addiction. These companies can be held accountable.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if that guy was setting himself up

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Speaker 5: for his next trial, because that's not what this particular

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Speaker 5: woman was complaining about. Was not sexploitation and that sort

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Speaker 5: of stuff. It was just it ruined her mental health

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Speaker 5: to spend sixteen hours a day on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I would ruin anybody's mental health to do that. There's

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Speaker 5: a whole bunch of things I might have done all

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Speaker 5: day long that would have been really bad for me

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Speaker 5: when I was a kid, if my parents would let me.

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Speaker 5: But that lawyer there, I think it was the female lawyer,

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Speaker 5: this guy's counterpart, the winning side female lawyer said it's

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Speaker 5: time to stop blaming the parents.

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Speaker 2: I disagree wholeheartedly.

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, Yeah, so you posed kind of a

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Speaker 6: hypothetical or rhetorical question. I don't know if this guy's

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Speaker 6: just setting himself up for his next trial. That is

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Speaker 6: one hundred percent what's happening here. Here are a couple

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Speaker 6: of headlines for you do back to back courtroom losses,

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Speaker 6: Harold Meta's big tobacco moment, Well, it'll be similar, and

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Speaker 6: the editorial board of The Wall Street Journalist Social media

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Speaker 6: shakedown begins. The verdict against Meta and YouTube is a

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Speaker 6: victory for the plaintiff's bar, not for children or society.

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Speaker 6: The six million dollars verdict against the two companies is

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Speaker 6: the first of more than three thousand lawsuits pending in

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Speaker 6: California courts. That's only the state of count Unicornia, three

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Speaker 6: thousand lawsuits that seek to hold social media companies liable

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Speaker 6: for the travails of young people. School districts and more

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Speaker 6: than forty states attorneys general have also sued for damages

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Speaker 6: to compensate for social programs allegedly caused by the platforms.

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Speaker 6: Michael name a big industry that makes a lot of money.

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Speaker 6: Anyone you want anything pops to mind sports absolutely can

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Speaker 6: come up with. Well, there are all sorts of different

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Speaker 6: ways people sue stadiums, for instance, phony you know I

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Speaker 6: got hit with a beer can, lawsuits, or you know

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Speaker 6: the roar of the crowd hurt my ears, And it's

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Speaker 6: all mostly a plea to hey, rate me a big

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Speaker 6: check and this can go away. That's how planefs atorneys

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Speaker 6: make money. They don't make money bravely going to trial

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Speaker 6: and dueling it out in court. Like Clarence Darrow or

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Speaker 6: a TV lawyer these guys did, but it's mostly just

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Speaker 6: getting settlements.

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Speaker 2: It's nuisance lawsuits.

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Speaker 6: And then the occasional getting in front of a jury

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Speaker 6: and convincing a dozen softtheads that the big Goliath maybe

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Speaker 6: maybe it wasn't really their fault, but they've got unlimited money,

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Speaker 6: and this poor pathetic person over here has nothing, and

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Speaker 6: she's a confused girl in the rest of the others.

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Speaker 2: Give her a few bucks. I mean, because it is

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Speaker 2: kind of addictive, isn't it. I mean, that's all it takes.

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Speaker 6: In a civil trial. And I hate these companies. I

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Speaker 6: hate social media. I think they're terrible for adults and

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Speaker 6: worse for children. I don't think this is justice.

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Speaker 5: And then anytime somebody gets money because a company didn't

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Speaker 5: warn you that something bad could happen, that's what makes

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Speaker 5: the one the price of everything higher. And two stupid

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Speaker 5: stickers on ladders and everything else, gosh, and you falling off.

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Speaker 5: This could be a danger, you know, freaking kidding, but

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Speaker 5: so apparently you got to put on there. If your

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Speaker 5: kid watches Instagram sixteen hours a day might not be

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Speaker 5: good for them.

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Speaker 6: Right right, And this leads absolutely directly, as you've pointed

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Speaker 6: out through the years too. Kids are not allowed to

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Speaker 6: run on the playground because of liability concerns.

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Speaker 2: That is a.

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Speaker 6: Disease eased society. That's not an inconvenience. That's psychosis.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I hate Zuckerberg, I hate Google, but this is

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Speaker 5: not gonna do anything good for the culture or for society.

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Speaker 6: You know, one more quick semi legal point, and then

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Speaker 6: I want to hit a Supreme Court case that just happened.

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Speaker 6: Whereas it Section two thirty of the nineteen ninety six

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Speaker 6: Communications Decency Act protects Internet platforms from being held liable

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Speaker 6: for harm caused by user generated content, but playtiffs are

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Speaker 6: trying to dodge that law by arguing that the platforms

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Speaker 6: were negligent and how they designed their sites. They claimed

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Speaker 6: that features like so called infinite scrolling and like buttons

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Speaker 6: not user posts per se arm children. Whether this theory

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Speaker 6: trump section two thirty will be the main issue on appeal.

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Speaker 6: And the platforms have a pretty strong case.

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Speaker 5: So you know, there's something interesting analysis came across that

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Speaker 5: something they did.

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Speaker 2: Let me see if I can find that, because I.

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Speaker 6: Thought, well, while you're looking for that, oh, I was

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Speaker 6: gonna say I could hit that Supreme Court case real quickly.

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Speaker 5: The verdict validated the plaintiff's legal strategy of targeting how

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Speaker 5: the platforms were designed rather than the content on them,

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Speaker 5: which sidesteps the usual Section two thirty protections that have

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Speaker 5: historically shielded social media companies. So that's why they went

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Speaker 5: specifically with the infinite scrolling like buttons and stayed away

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Speaker 5: from the content to not get into that area, which

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Speaker 5: was pretty clever. Interestingly enough, in a nine zero decision yesterday,

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Speaker 5: the Supreme Court ruled and Cost Communications Incorporated Versus Sony

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Speaker 5: Music Entertainment that Internet providers such as Cox cannot be

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Speaker 5: held liable for copyright infringement by users of their Internet services.

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Speaker 5: The decision overturned a previous federal Appeals Court ruling. Writing

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Speaker 5: for the seven justice majority opinion, that's funny, it just

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Speaker 6: Maybe there was, oh oh, there were concurrences that had

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Speaker 6: a little different reasoning. I get it anyway. Justice Clarence

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Speaker 6: Thomas said that legal precedent holds the companies cannot be

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Speaker 6: found liable for copyright infringement for merely providing service to

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Speaker 6: the general public with the knowledge that it will be

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Speaker 6: used by some to infringe copyrights.

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Speaker 2: Clearly.

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Speaker 6: But anyway, that was a nine to zero ruling that Listen,

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Speaker 6: just providing the service doesn't make you liable for everything

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Speaker 6: that happens on it. So this will be an interesting

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Speaker 2: This.

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Speaker 6: It's got to go up to some pretty high high

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Speaker 6: appeals courts though, and maybe the Soups in one way

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Speaker 6: or another to stop just an avalancheal lawsuits against tech

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Speaker 6: companies because their pockets are so deep. By Oh, I

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Speaker 6: didn't explain why I asked Michael to give me an

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Speaker 6: example of an industry that makes a lot of money.

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Speaker 6: It was simply that in plaintiffs attorneys the show me

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Speaker 6: the man, I will show find you the crime, or

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Speaker 6: show you the crime, as the Bolsheviks used to say,

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Speaker 6: show me the deep pockets. I will find the reason

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Speaker 6: to sue them. Say plaintiff's attorneys. They're creative people, they're

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Speaker 6: smart people. They see somebody with a lot of money,

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Speaker 6: they will figure out what to sue them for and

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Speaker 6: then make traumatic speeches about the injustice and the exploitation,

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Speaker 6: what the cruel, malicious and fraudulent. Hell, I try to

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Speaker 6: get that done by noon. But yeah, they make glorious

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Speaker 6: speeches to soft headed juries about the malevolence of the

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Speaker 6: big giant Goliath versus David.

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Speaker 2: That's how it works. Malice, oppression, or fraud.

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Speaker 6: I've been malicious and oppressive so far today, but I

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Speaker 6: don't think I've defrauded anybody.

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Speaker 2: Michael, you had a point.

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Speaker 10: My prediction is that every website, every social media will

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Speaker 10: now have a warning at some point, just to protect

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Speaker 10: themselves before you get you got to click on it

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Speaker 10: before you can get in, you know, right.

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Speaker 5: Right, which will accomplish anyone, anyone freaking nothing, freaking nothing,

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Speaker 5: It will accomplish nothing.

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Speaker 6: It's like the whiskey company would please drink responsibly all right,

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Speaker 6: to remove themselves reliably.

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Speaker 2: Oh, for God's sense.

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Speaker 5: I was trying to when I heard this verdict came down,

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Speaker 5: and I was slapping my forehead as on a walk

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Speaker 5: or something at the gym, I guess, and I was

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Speaker 5: thinking of other examples.

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Speaker 2: Because making your product.

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Speaker 5: As appealing as possible is the whole every product that exists.

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Speaker 2: That's what you do.

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Speaker 5: You want people to only use this product, to never

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Speaker 5: stop using this product. But if you could make if

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Speaker 5: it made financial sense for Lays to make an endless

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Speaker 5: bag of chips, you can never get to the bottom.

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Speaker 5: Would they be on the hook for something, because similar

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Speaker 6: Well, McDonald's burgers don't taste like burgers.

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Speaker 2: This is not horrible for a sandwich if you put

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Speaker 5: Possible they made it wrong. You know, they might be

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Speaker 5: Yeah, huh my McDonald's I go to because I'm in California.

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Speaker 5: Or the minimum wage for fast food workers are twenty dollars.

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Speaker 6: Oh boy, oh wow, Okay, super I don't eat fast

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Speaker 2: It's just out of curiosity. Nobody should ever eat as sandwich.

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Speaker 2: That's a thousand calories. I don't think as that's that's big.

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Speaker 5: Trump with a heck of a truth social post with

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Speaker 5: I'm serious here. He can't get their attention and they're

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Speaker 6: And why we should all care a hell of a

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Speaker 6: lot more about this, okay, and don't base it all

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Speaker 2: That's probably determine Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 9: If a Ran fails to accept the reality of the

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Speaker 1: That is, if ceasefire negotiations with Iran prove unsuccessful. White

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Speaker 1: According to Iranian state run.

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Speaker 12: Media, a US proposal has been rejected and countered with

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot here.

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Speaker 5: Just a couple hours ago, Trump put out a truth

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Speaker 5: and it won't be pretty. That's with all the eighty

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Speaker 5: seizing three other islands, so that would bring you to

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Speaker 2: By the US is past June.

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Speaker 5: Meanwhile, you know, a lot of your late night comics,

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Speaker 5: making this up, that we got negotiations going on. Well,

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Speaker 5: yesterday the Pakistani Foreign Minister confirmed that indirect talks are

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Speaker 6: Here's a question for you, a little tangent little so.

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Speaker 6: Iran's five point counterproposal included they own the Straits of

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Speaker 6: Here's the question, what are they doing? What is the

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Speaker 2: That's a high level troll, man.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, seriously, if Hitler came out of

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Speaker 6: here my demands, you all become Nazis, you rebuild Berlin,

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Speaker 5: you have zero bargaining position.

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Speaker 5: I guess the some of y'all would say they have

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Speaker 2: We can and will take it.

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Speaker 5: Just that's why Trump's saying, if you don't do something now,

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Speaker 1: The eighty second ar or in division the typically deployed

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Speaker 6: One of the headlines today is Trump tells aids he

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Speaker 6: that's sincere he's saying that is in the next clip.

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Speaker 1: According to brand new Fox News polling, fifty eight percent

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Speaker 1: of registered voters oppose current US military action in Iran,

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Speaker 1: with forty four percent feeling that the action will make

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Speaker 1: the US less safe in the long run.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand how it makes us less safe.

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Speaker 5: But the number that's apparently bothering the Trump crowd the

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Speaker 5: most is Independent.

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Speaker 2: So only forty two percent approval for the war.

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Speaker 5: Twelve percent Democrats, seventy seven percent of Republicans, but the

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Speaker 5: independence twenty eight percent approval.

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Speaker 2: For the war among Independence got to do a better

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Speaker 2: job of making the case.

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Speaker 5: Well, he's made hardly any effort to make the case,

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Speaker 5: including and this is really extraordinary. The State of the

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Speaker 5: Union address was four days before we launched this attack,

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Speaker 5: and he didn't really say anything about it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I get I'll buy the element of surprise

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Speaker 6: argument for that one. But I mean, his speech writers

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Speaker 6: surely they can come up with an eloquent version of

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Speaker 6: well maybe what I'm about to say next segment. But

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Speaker 6: you know, the messaging from this White House is terrible.

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Speaker 6: It is almost always terrible. Well, ultimately not going.

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Speaker 5: To make any difference what the poll numbers were right now,

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Speaker 5: the end of this deal, if Auran ends up in

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Speaker 5: a better place, history will judge it is a good thing.

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Speaker 5: Unless the administration chickens out before they get that good

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Speaker 5: thing done because of the pull numbers. That would be

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Speaker 5: a bad result, right, I mean, if the Republican Party

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Speaker 5: panics over the prospects at.

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Speaker 2: The midterms.

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Speaker 6: And we're compelled to leave the hornet's nest rolling around

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Speaker 6: on the ground, that would be a very bad thing.

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Speaker 5: There's another thing I had I wanted to jam ed

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Speaker 5: and before we take a break, so you can get

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Speaker 5: to your Joe's main big point or whatever you're.

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Speaker 2: Going to call it. It's not a good name, but

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Speaker 2: it might have to do.

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Speaker 5: There is some reporting that the Pentagon is looking at

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Speaker 5: stopping the flow of arms to Ukraine to turn our

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Speaker 5: attention toward the.

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Speaker 2: Middle East, which obviously would be bad for Ukraine.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot of punditry about how China's thinking, wow,

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Speaker 6: now we gotta go.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: How about the fact that Europe plays no role in

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Speaker 5: any of this, including the war in their own backyard.

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Speaker 5: They don't do any for that, then do anything for

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Speaker 5: the straderhr moves where they get their oil.

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Speaker 6: The just sideline players, flabby useless socialists with nice architecture.

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Speaker 2: Right, who'd like to get together and have meetings. A big,

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Speaker 2: big picture coming up next. Stay tuned.

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Speaker 5: Oh major celebrity rock star deaths. Dash Cofts of Seals

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Speaker 5: and Crofts has died.

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Speaker 6: At the age of eighty five. Ancient musician passes away.

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Speaker 6: Nobody cares, what are we CBS News now, Hanson, stop it,

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Speaker 6: stop it, major rock star, good lord tuneful fellows though,

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Speaker 6: so I want to play for you. Lennon Neesaiba, who

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Speaker 6: is the Foreign Minister for the United Arab Emirates you

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Speaker 6: know them as the UAE. She was on special report

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Speaker 6: with Brett bhar last night and it was striking first clip.

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Speaker 7: Michael Well, First of all, Bret, what happens in the

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Speaker 7: Gulf clearly doesn't stay in the Gulf. So Iran's attack

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Speaker 7: on golf allies of the United States and Jordan is

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Speaker 7: an attack on the entire world and the world economy,

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Speaker 7: including its closure of the Straits of Horror Moons. Let's

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Speaker 7: not forget that a fifth of the world's oil and

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Speaker 7: gas goes through the Straits of Hormos, thirty percent of

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Speaker 7: its fertilizers for food production and harvest goes through the

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Speaker 7: Straits of Hormos. Almost every product known to every global

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Speaker 7: supply chain coming from the Gulf goes through the straits

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Speaker 7: of Hormus, so effectively, Iran is trying to give the

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Speaker 7: global economy a heart attack. We should not allow Iran,

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Speaker 7: a state sponsor of terrorism, to set the global price

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Speaker 7: for food and gas.

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Speaker 2: Not just terrorism, Islamic terrorism.

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Speaker 6: The UAE hates Iran, Saudi Arabia hates Aaron, those countries

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Speaker 6: and several others. They are through cow telling to their

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Speaker 6: fanatical minorities. It's becoming more and more clear. I loved

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Speaker 6: unless you have a comment right there, Jack, I love

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Speaker 6: this next clip fifty.

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Speaker 2: One b Michael.

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Speaker 6: The question is why, and I answer, so we don't

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Speaker 6: have Brett's questions, which really makes this difficult because I

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Speaker 6: haven't memorized all of them in order. He asks why

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Speaker 6: is Iran attacking its neighbors in the golf, including heavily,

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Speaker 6: heavily heavily the UAE.

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Speaker 2: The question is why, and.

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Speaker 7: I think the answer is because we are an idea

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Speaker 7: that threatens Iran, that threatens this regime. Because we are open,

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Speaker 7: we are progressive, we are tolerant, We're a vibrant economy.

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Speaker 2: And what have they done for their people with.

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Speaker 7: The resources that they have. They sit across three continents

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Speaker 7: just the same way we do. They have inflation, their

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Speaker 7: currency is in free full They had a spate of

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Speaker 7: killing protesters in January. This is a really ruthless regime

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Speaker 7: and President Trump is right to hold to account.

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Speaker 6: Today she makes the case that they lie about everything.

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Speaker 6: And then fifty three Finally, Michael, the.

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Speaker 7: United States does not have to bear this burden alone.

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Speaker 7: The NATO Sectory General came out with a very strong

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Speaker 7: statement supporting President Trump's efforts with partners in Europe to

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Speaker 7: keep the straits of Hormus open.

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Speaker 2: World leaders over thirty have.

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Speaker 7: Signed a statement to that effect on Saturday, and more

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Speaker 7: joining this week so that they are committing resources to

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Speaker 7: keeping the straits of Hormus open. So this is not

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Speaker 7: just a US problem. This is a global problem, and

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Speaker 7: that is the light at the end of the tunnel.

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Speaker 5: Sure be nice if any mainstream news outlets would have

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Speaker 5: some voice like her on to make that case, as

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Speaker 5: opposed to make it seem like it's Trump's crazy, wacky.

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Speaker 2: On his own lark.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I just read. I think it was in the

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Speaker 6: New York Times. One of their feature articles was the

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Speaker 6: war in Iran, which Trump started yeah, no kidding for

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Speaker 6: what it's worth. An attractive, middle aged woman, obviously very

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Speaker 6: very well spoken, uncovered hair, and a prominent part of

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Speaker 6: that regime. It's the new Middle East. So a couple

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Speaker 6: of things again. The headline is Trump tells aids he

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Speaker 6: wants speedy end to our honor war. I sure as

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Speaker 6: hell hope that urge goes away. I came across two

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Speaker 6: great pizza pieces of thinking.

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Speaker 2: I really liked.

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Speaker 6: Wafers was from Matthew Kronig Twilight to the Rogue States,

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Speaker 6: and he talks about great quote. In nineteen ninety three,

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Speaker 6: James Woolsey, was Bill Clinton's nominee to direct the CIA,

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Speaker 6: said in his confirmation hearing, we have slain a large dragon,

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Speaker 6: but we now live in a jungle filled with a

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Speaker 6: bewildering variety of poisonous snakes. I'm a big fan of

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Speaker 6: a good metaphor, and that's a good one. The US

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Speaker 6: faced new enemies, regional autocratic powers, pursuing weapons of mass destruction,

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Speaker 6: sponsoring terrorism, abusing human rights, and flouting international law. And

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Speaker 6: then he goes to the list of presidents who have

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Speaker 6: all talked about these regimes. But then the nineties and

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Speaker 6: two thousand's brought a long list of rogues. Melosovich in Serbia,

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Speaker 6: Suddam Hussein Momarkadov, the Kim regime in North Korea, Assad

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Speaker 6: in Syria, Omar al Bashir and Sudan Communists in Cuba,

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Speaker 6: the Chavista's in Venezuela, the Islamic Republic of Iran. And

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Speaker 6: since then, he writes, the US has maintained a steady

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Speaker 6: of hap haz their de facto campaign of toppling anti

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Speaker 6: American dictators. And he writes about how well it's gone

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Speaker 6: once you get past some of the chaos. And that's

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Speaker 6: with all due respect to the idiotic, the unspeakably idiotic

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Speaker 6: policies in Iraq by the Bush administration. Contrary to the

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Speaker 6: popular notion of that America's post Cold War grand strategy

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Speaker 6: is a failure, Washington has shown a.

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Speaker 2: Knack for toppling dictators.

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Speaker 6: And he says some consider these operations failures because they

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Speaker 6: left chaos in their wake, but that misses the point.

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Speaker 6: For years, these rogues dominated the president's daily intelligence briefs.

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Speaker 6: Now that they are defanging these countries, remaining afflictions don't

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Speaker 6: threaten Americans or occupy the attention of senior US national

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Speaker 6: security officials, at least not usually. North Korea is the

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Speaker 6: exception that proves the rule. Bill Clinton missed an opportunity

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Speaker 6: to strike it in ninety four, and now the regime

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Speaker 6: is a major nuclear power. So I think that that

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Speaker 6: makes the point pretty well that he can't be too

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Speaker 6: afraid of breaking some eggs. But then this one, really

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Speaker 6: it's written by a fellow named sadanand Doom or Duma.

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Speaker 6: He is a Muslim fellow, and he wrote a piece

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Speaker 6: in the journal Opinion section Muslims Win If Iran's regime loses,

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Speaker 6: a defeat for the Mullahs would yield benefits that would

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Speaker 6: ripple across the globe. The end and you know me,

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Speaker 6: my jihad against jihad, the end of the Islamic revolutionary

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Speaker 6: regime in Iran wouldn't be good news only for the

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Speaker 6: US and Israel. A defeat for the Ietolas would also

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Speaker 6: benefit the world's two billion Muslims. It would extinguish a

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Speaker 6: radical experiment with an ugly shadow stretching from Lebanon to Indonesia.

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Speaker 6: And he goes into the history of the nineteen seventy

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Speaker 6: nine revolution and the tortures and killings and bombs and

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Speaker 6: then murders of.

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Speaker 2: Our marines and.

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Speaker 6: All sorts of folks that I like this paragraph and

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Speaker 6: eighty nine Komani condemned British Indian author Salomon Rushi to

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Speaker 6: death for writing a novel that offended orthodox Islamic sensibilities.

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Speaker 6: The message Muslim clerics thousands of miles away would decide

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Speaker 6: the boundaries of free speech in the West. Then he

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Speaker 6: talks about the attack and how it was carried out

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Speaker 6: years and years later, the death to America, death to Israel,

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Speaker 6: chance on Iranian streets. They established them, Molas established a

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Speaker 6: network of terrorist proxy spanning Iraq. Yem and Syrian Lemanon

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Speaker 6: became the prime sponsors of the Israel focused terrorist groups

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Speaker 6: Hamas and Hesbelah. Iranian proxies killed or named thousands of

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Speaker 6: US servicemen in Iraq with roadside bombs. The regime sponsored

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Speaker 6: terrorist attacks in Argentina, Bulgaria, and Germany, among other places.

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Speaker 6: Then he gets into their blood soak, director, depression of women,

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Speaker 6: the artists, intellectuals, gaze everybody. We're running a little short

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Speaker 6: on time, But he explains that most Muslims did not

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Speaker 6: have the mullah's philosophy that signaled to Islamis everywhere, Shiite

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Speaker 6: and sunny that the quest to impose God's law or

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Speaker 6: Shariah on earth wasn't a fantasy but a realistic goal

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Speaker 6: because for years, established clerics had shunned the idea of

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Speaker 6: the clerics running the world.

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Speaker 2: They thought it was inappropriate, it was a terrible idea.

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Speaker 6: But then Iran came along and convinced millions, billions of

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Speaker 6: a billion people around the world that no, no, no, no, actually, yeah,

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Speaker 6: the clerics should run absolutely everything. They are to a

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Speaker 6: huge extent, along with some Saudi wakatos. They're the engine

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Speaker 6: of Islamic extremism around the world. We've got to get

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Speaker 6: rid of them. No, practically, no matter what it costs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, guy's gases up a dollar, well played, well played. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's either a.

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Speaker 5: Good idea it's not, And it can't be based around

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Speaker 5: whether or not gas goes up a couple of bucks

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Speaker 5: for a short period of time.

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Speaker 2: And if you're really into this like we are, it's notable.

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Speaker 6: He points out that Ali Kameni, who we just blew

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Speaker 6: the beard off the second Iatola, he translated the works

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Speaker 6: of complete wackadodal fundamentalist Isis and al Qaeda inspiring Muslim

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Speaker 6: Brotherhood fundamentalist Sayid Katub, who is an Egyptian.

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Speaker 2: He translated that.

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Speaker 6: Hardcore Sunni guy's writings from Arabic to Persian so all

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Speaker 6: the sites in Iran could learn his philosophy. Man, they

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Speaker 6: are the engine to a large extent of extremist Islam.

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Speaker 2: I'll have to get to this comedian. It's got a

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Speaker 2: Netflix special.

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Speaker 5: Netflix made him take his Muslim joke out of his routine,

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Speaker 5: and the whole conversation about that is really interesting.

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Speaker 2: I've got another great example of that.

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Speaker 6: I'm telling you Islam versus the Radical Islam versus the

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Speaker 6: West is the biggest challenge on Earth, and if you

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Speaker 6: back down, you get more of it.

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Speaker 2: Yep, it's just the way it works with any bully.

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