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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Currently we are back talking with Frank Fachino Junior. You've

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Speaker 2: got a little c in there too. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to see Frank Courtney Ficino Junior. Is it Courtney by chance?

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Speaker 2: Did I get in?

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Speaker 1: What? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Char oh? Okay, Chucky? All right, let's let's do this. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so I was way off on that one. It's giving

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Speaker 2: it a shot. We're talking about the flat Woods Monster

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Speaker 2: also in within there as well, we are talking about well,

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Speaker 2: he's kind of you're like weaving everything in. However, let's

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Speaker 2: let's let's get back to the action of the Flatwoods

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Speaker 2: Monster and what they're seeing again. Go to the website

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Speaker 2: and see the pictures that he has sent us that

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Speaker 2: go right along with it. I mean, as you're telling

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Speaker 2: the story, I'm looking at it going I'm watching this happen.

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Speaker 2: But you can also go to his website, Flatwoodsmonster dot

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Speaker 2: com and you can learn all about his books, his information,

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Speaker 2: and get all the other pictures and what's going to

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Speaker 2: be coming up next for him. But okay, so we

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Speaker 2: were shining the light up on it. There's no way

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Speaker 2: it is a raccoon. There's these eyes looking down. It's

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Speaker 2: it's huge, and the one dude had wobbly legs and

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Speaker 2: fell down right.

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Speaker 3: Okay, when they sighted this thing, Connie, when they first

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Speaker 3: thought it was the eyes of a raccoon or apossum

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Speaker 3: And this branch actually came out across the path, and

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Speaker 3: then it came down to the right of the path.

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Speaker 3: And when I was up there with Colonel Levitt, he

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Speaker 3: told me that you could just about reach up as

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Speaker 3: it tapered off to the right hand side, and you

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Speaker 3: could just about reach up and touch the leaves on it.

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Speaker 3: So that's how they e gauged the height of this thing.

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Speaker 3: It was actually sitting there, Connie, and it lifted up,

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Speaker 3: came down to the right, and it moved in front

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Speaker 3: of the witnesses. Now, the beams of light weren't that strong,

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Speaker 3: but Missus May and the witnesses had told me they

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Speaker 3: shot out from behind these portholes. Now, the outer helmet

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Speaker 3: that was black, that was shaped like the ace of spades.

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Speaker 3: Freddie and Missus May said it had like a glass

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Speaker 3: barrier in front of it. It wasn't open. It had

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Speaker 3: a glass barrier and Freddie, who saw it from a

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Speaker 3: distance from the wooden gate. It was really cool, Connie,

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Speaker 3: because when I was doing my illustrations and working with

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Speaker 3: the witnesses, missus May saw this thing right up close,

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Speaker 3: like about twelve feet away. Freddie saw the whole thing

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Speaker 3: unfolded in front of him, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So we have the view. That's how I was able

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Speaker 3: to do that illustration, which was really great. So this

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Speaker 3: thing is moving in front of Kathleen. While this is

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Speaker 3: going on, this thing was squirting out like a grayish

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Speaker 3: black oil all over the place. It was some type

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Speaker 3: of a leak. And because Missus May was the closest,

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Speaker 3: she said, this oil splattered. Remember I told you was

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Speaker 3: making the noises and hissing. The witness has said this

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Speaker 3: thing seemed to be really hot, like it was burning up,

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Speaker 3: and this oil was spewing out all over the place.

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Speaker 3: It hit the front of Missus May's clothing. Now, she

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Speaker 3: was a hairdresser back in the day, and back then, Connie,

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Speaker 3: she had her little suit with the matching hat, she

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Speaker 3: When she was cutting hair, she had a uniform, and

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Speaker 3: she said her hat got splattered with oil and it

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Speaker 3: had this oil splattered on their faces, it got in

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Speaker 3: have time to scream when Jeanne fell over. Missus May

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Speaker 3: said he wasn't too long in getting up. But when

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Speaker 3: Another witness said that what the Flatwood's machine was actually

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? And one of the

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Speaker 3: researchers said, it's back in the day, Ivan Sanderson, and

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Speaker 3: when the boys saw the craft land up in the back,

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Speaker 3: it was glowing. Witness Jet David so I said it

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Speaker 3: was obvious thing was sitting up on top of a

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Speaker 3: the craft touched down in there, the Flatwoods Monster actually

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Speaker 3: left the craft and all of these years of what

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Speaker 3: were called skid marks which were left in the grass,

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Speaker 3: you have the picture that gully Field County. The grass

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Speaker 3: was about three to four feet high in parts. Stuart

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Speaker 3: told me that it was about waste high in some points. Well,

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Speaker 3: what happened is the propulsion system from this flat Woods

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Speaker 3: Monster had actually cut a path. After the craft touched down,

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Speaker 3: it left the Presston area, which was evidence. And as

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Speaker 3: was very powerful. There were rocks flipped over upside down,

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Speaker 3: so you have to picture. It was like a big

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Speaker 3: that was four feet wide, and it cut the path

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Speaker 3: through the grass. And then when the encounter happened, this

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Speaker 3: and it made a parallel path following it back to

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Speaker 3: That's what this thing did. But back to the story.

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Speaker 3: When this thing came in front of Missus May and

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Speaker 3: it splattered the oil on her and the kids, they

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Speaker 3: and Missus May told me. She says she was so scared.

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Speaker 3: She says, I hurdled that four fench in one leap.

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Speaker 3: But she was in the Olympics, thirty two year old

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Speaker 3: That's how scared they were. The rest of the kids

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Speaker 3: They all climbed up and they went over it. A

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Speaker 3: when the pandemonium really started affecting them. Missus May called

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Speaker 3: the time. He was actually out looking for a crassed

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Speaker 3: airplane and it wasn't an airplane whatsoever. It was another

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Speaker 3: UFO and there was UFO scene and it's well documented

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Speaker 3: all over Braxton County that night. Some of them were crashing.

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Speaker 3: What they couldn't understand back in the day until I

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Speaker 3: got the Project blue book documents, and I started following

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Speaker 3: now Connie. I was going up there for years with

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Speaker 3: were scoping over this area and every time we did

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Speaker 3: a show, more brax And County residents came out for

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Speaker 3: our book signings, and we were sitting down. And that's

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Speaker 3: why I say this book to be updated. I would

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Speaker 3: have had about fifty times updating the importing it in print.

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Speaker 3: What I do is I'll release some of the information

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Speaker 3: on the web and you could see some updated articles.

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Speaker 3: But missus May said at that point the sheriff was

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Speaker 3: He was not a va bable And what happened is

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Speaker 3: Ailee Stewart, the reporter, got a call it his home.

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Speaker 3: Because he was a photojournalist, he knew the area well.

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Speaker 3: He was former Air Force and he was very responsible

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Speaker 3: and he used to hang out with the police and

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Speaker 3: go through the crime scenes and he would take the photographs.

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Speaker 3: So he knew all the cops, he knew the state troopers,

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Speaker 3: May's house. He picked somebody else up. He proceeded up

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Speaker 3: like all hell broke loose when he walked through that

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Speaker 2: Now did anybody else see this creature? Was at the

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Speaker 2: only time.

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Speaker 3: This was saying by that particular group right there. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there was at other witnesses. I heard a few years

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Speaker 3: did follow along from a distance, but they never went

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Speaker 3: But the Flatwoods Monster was seen the following night. It

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Speaker 3: was actually on earth for about twenty four hours. After

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Speaker 3: it documented and pinpointed on topographical maps through Braxton County,

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Speaker 3: and different people had seen it took off in like

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Speaker 3: a pendulum type motion, circled in the back of the

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Speaker 3: The encounter happened about eight o'clock, about eight thirty. The

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Speaker 3: thing crash land and in a place called frank Town,

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Speaker 3: and it landed on a property of James.

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Speaker 3: Yep, James Knob.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it's all about you there, Okay, let me

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Speaker 2: ask this. A lot of things I've experienced. You see

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Speaker 2: a little craft, and yet you see bigger entities and

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Speaker 2: you're like, how, you know, are they together or is

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Speaker 2: there a way that this big thing came out of

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Speaker 2: that small thing? And and we've seen and we've you know,

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Speaker 2: some of us have learned through experience too that these

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Speaker 2: you know, these entities that we see, they're huge. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's also these intelligent orbs. And so there's been a

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Speaker 2: lot of uh encounters, stories, witnesses experiences that the these

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Speaker 2: big entities can turn into that little intelligent orb and

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Speaker 2: then they go into those ships and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: that's how they can fit into those ships. Was there

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Speaker 2: anything like that? Was the ship that they saw the

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Speaker 2: saucer big enough for this you know, huge hover craft machine.

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Speaker 3: Well, it actually wasn't the saucer shape. Okay, it was

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Speaker 3: the tapered end was towards the rear. Now that's a

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Speaker 3: good point, Connie, because I wanted to get an idea

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Speaker 3: of how this big this thing was. Yeah. And Jack Davis,

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Speaker 3: who I interviewed, and he's the one that actually drove

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Speaker 3: me around Braxton County and Flatwoods and took me to

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Speaker 3: the points where you go up these craggy little one

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Speaker 3: and stepped out, he says, Frank, look us there. And

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Speaker 3: I looked at me. He's like, can you see where

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Speaker 3: it landed? I spent a lot of time with Jack

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Speaker 3: saw the craft coming in. He saw it from another

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Speaker 3: day and he was on some downtime in between repairs,

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Speaker 3: and I said, Jack, how big was this thing? Can

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Speaker 3: you give me? Get me in a ballpark? Was the

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Speaker 3: size of a Volkswagon or an eighteen wheeler. I said,

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Speaker 3: just give me, get me in a ballpark with this thing.

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Speaker 3: And the garage that he had, Connie, it wasn't side

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Speaker 3: by side. It was to end, do you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. It was like two bays front and back,

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Speaker 3: and he was he had finished working on a car

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Speaker 3: in the back and he looked around the shop and

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Speaker 3: he said it was about the size of this two

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Speaker 3: car garage. And I said, so, what would you estimate

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Speaker 3: it at? And he said it was probably about fourteen

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Speaker 3: to sixteen feet high and about thirty two or thirty

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Speaker 3: six feet long. And it was shaped like an egg. Oh.

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Speaker 2: Man, I've seen some pictures of an egg that people

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Speaker 2: have gotten on trail cams.

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Speaker 3: And not the same thing that was seen over Washington. Oh.

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Speaker 3: I had no idea ten Virginia. And it was sighted,

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Speaker 3: so it was actually easy to track. It's like the breadcrumbs.

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Speaker 3: And I worked out. I had my master map, which

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Speaker 3: you could see it's all over the internet, and it

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Speaker 3: was just several years of plotting points and Project blue

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Speaker 3: Book actually had a ton of information in a Connie,

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Speaker 3: but nobody ever played paid close attention to it. Then

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Speaker 3: I was getting some of the research from some of

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Speaker 3: the past investigators Barker, Ivan Sanderson, and I was going

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Speaker 3: through their private notes. There was a great Barker museum

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Speaker 3: in Clarksburg, and I got to go through some of

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Speaker 3: that stuff and everything that was released through the pressed

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Speaker 3: and talking to the locals. So we're coming forward. So

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Speaker 3: I had a ton of information. I had more maps

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Speaker 3: than you can imagine, Connie, and all it was was

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Speaker 3: spreading these maps out for years, and every time I

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Speaker 3: got a new piece, I would just plot the point

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Speaker 3: and it's just connecting the dots. And I liked a

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