1 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, and welcome to another edition of The 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Falcon's Final Whistle podcast. I'm Scott Bear alongside Torry mclaney 3 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: and Chris rim and loyal listeners. It's been too long, Yeah, 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: it really has. We've missed you. Have you missed us? 5 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Have you missed us? I hope so at Uh. There 6 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: were some combines and owners meetings and big quarterback trade 7 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: and a number of different things that kept us more 8 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: focused on the website as opposed to the podcast. But 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: we're back and we're bringing you on this speed train 10 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: towards the NFL Draft, which is less than two weeks 11 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: away right now. I'm just glad we made it here. 12 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: There was one point in the like a couple I 13 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: guess it was around the time that Matt Ryan was 14 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: traded where I was just like, we're not gonna get there. 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: We're not gonna get to the draft. We're all just 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: gonna go to slate for a couple of weeks and 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: then wake up in will be draft time. That didn't happen, nope, 18 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: But instead it's been all mock drafts all the time. 19 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: Hopefully you guys have taken a look at the one 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: that Chris Ram and I put together, which I've boldly 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: predicted will get thirty two out of thirty two correct 22 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: the insight. I'm mad. I am mad though, that you 23 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: didn't say the same thing about our mock draft from 24 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: two weeks ago. Yeah, because you intentionally sabotaged it with Hey, 25 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: now I didn't. It's not sabotage. Hold on. And in 26 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: the intro you specifically said that you wanted to do 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 1: such a bad job that you would never get asked 28 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: back again. That is true. I hate for those of you. Okay, 29 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: so those of you who have been following me since 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: I've been covering like the Falcons. This was even before 31 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: I came here. I hate mock drafts with a burning 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: passion because they just annoy the absolute crap on me. 33 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: It's just people have no idea what they're doing. They're 34 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: just throwing darts at a wall, just hoping one of 35 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: them hits. That's all mock drafts are, and if anyone 36 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: thinks any differently, they're lying to themselves. As a minor 37 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: programming note, stay tuned next Monday or tomaculate next that 38 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: is three Chris and I are doing a mock draft. Yeah, 39 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: and then there's gonna be some seven round mocks, which 40 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: used to be the bane of everyone's existence because you'd 41 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: have to, like blindly just point to a page in 42 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: the Athletics Beast Draft Guide, which that is still what 43 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: I do. Like, I still just go through and I'm like, 44 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: you know what, who works here? And I just look 45 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: at what Dane did. No, you just go through a 46 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: couple of Pro Football Focus mock draft simulators. You wait 47 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: till you get an A from the computer system and 48 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: you're good. Yeah. So there's gonna be lots more good 49 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: draft conversation coming up as we head towards the big 50 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: weekend itself, when the Falcons pick for the first time 51 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: at number eight overall. So that brings us to our 52 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: question of the week. We've kind of danced around these 53 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: points before, and we all know that it's gonna be 54 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: best player available, this, that and the other thing. But 55 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about two positions of I don't 56 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,839 Speaker 1: want to say weakness, but real uncertainty for the needed 57 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: positions of need. Yes, that's a good term. Yeah, for 58 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: the Falcons. You all know what it is before we 59 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: say it, right, It's edge rusher and wide receiver. Not 60 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: only is there not a ton of talent there. There 61 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: aren't very many bodies. They'll still have to flesh out 62 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: the depth chart and only one major acquisition point left 63 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: this offseason to do it, and that is the NFL 64 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: Draft coming up. So we're going to break down not 65 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: just what they should pick at number eight. We are 66 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: going to talk about that. We're also going to going 67 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: to give you a lay of the land of both 68 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: of those positions and how they can remedy these situations 69 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: both in the NFL Draft and as we move forward. 70 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: This is not going to be a single year fix. 71 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: It's just not possible with the state of the Falcons roster. 72 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: And that's okay. Not everything was built in one day, 73 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: so we're going to go over all those things. 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I think Falcons fans are definitely 82 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: pumped about the number eight overall page, and the mail 83 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: bag is full of and I know that all of 84 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: our timelines are full of questions of which position right, 85 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: which position edge rusher, wide receiver, edge rusher, cornerback. But 86 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 1: I thought in our written round table of this, Chris 87 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: rim To my Rights brought up a great point that 88 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: the who is more important than the what position right, 89 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: That it's not just let's go take an edge rusher. 90 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: We'll take that guy. It's got to be about who 91 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,559 Speaker 1: is there at the time that you're selecting. And number 92 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: eight is kind of an interesting bob because it's very 93 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: unpredictable whether some of these top level guys are even 94 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: going to be there. Yeah, I think when you look 95 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: at like the top guys, as I wrote in our 96 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: question of the week, like when you look at the 97 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: Big four as we as they, I think we should 98 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: call them like trademark right, whilst podcast like Aidan Hutchinson, 99 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: M Cavon, uh, Jermaine Johnson and and Trayvon Walker. I 100 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: think I think the gap between whoever's the fourth in 101 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: that group, I think it's in mock drafts and projections. 102 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: It's been Jermaine, whoever's the fourth in that group, I 103 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: think there's a bigger gap between him and the next 104 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: guy than there is between the fourth receiver whoever you 105 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: want to say as Johan Dodson or uh maybe Trail 106 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: and Burkes, whoever you want to say that it is 107 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: a bigger gap between that guy and say like George Pickens. 108 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: So I think if you if you're at and and 109 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: Pickins might be multiple down the line because of the 110 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: you know, small sample size. So I think whoever you 111 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: pick at eight, like Scott was saying, it matters more 112 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: about who's there do you reach for? Who's whoever you 113 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: consider the fifth guy, which I don't know, George kar 114 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: Laftist or someone like that, or do you want to 115 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: say no versus like grabbing a guy like a like 116 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: a Garrett Wilson. I think it makes sense in that situation, 117 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: but I would still prioritize edge as a position over receiver. 118 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: But in that situation, I like Garrett Wilson over Carl Laftis. 119 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: But I'm just a guy, it's just my sake, just 120 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: a simple man. Terry find nice that makes these decisions. 121 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: We don't get paid the big buck. No, I wish 122 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: we did. No, I'm kidding, I wouldn't want to be 123 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: in that position, um I. So I actually think in 124 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: our written portion I also kind of said what Chris did, 125 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: but in different terms, where I was just kind of like, 126 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: I think, going back to what you were saying about 127 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: the top edge rushers and the next round of edge rushers, 128 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: there's a bigger gap than there are with receivers. And 129 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: because of that, and because if you look at the 130 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: lay of the land in terms of who's picking in 131 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: the top ten, a lot of those teams need edge rushers. 132 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: I think it's more of a possibility that we see 133 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: good receivers fall than we do see good edge rushers fall. 134 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: And so because of that, I prioritize edge rushers at 135 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: number eight. I also cannot, I mean, you cannot look 136 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: at this draft and not look at it as a 137 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: complete whole. And I think that's what a lot of 138 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: people are forgiving, forgetting, is that you cannot overlook having 139 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: those two second round picks and what you can do 140 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: with that. You can go after two second round receivers 141 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: and they're gonna be some pretty good guys that are 142 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: still on the board at that point. Or if there's 143 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: a specific receiver that falls into the late round of 144 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: the late picks of the first round, you have two 145 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: second round picks, you have two third round picks. If 146 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: you wanted to deal something to get back into the 147 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: first round to get the receiver or whoever it is 148 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: that you want to do it, if that's what you want, 149 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: if you're in love with this guy, do it. I mean, 150 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: I think that's the thing is. I can't just sit 151 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: here and say, oh, then with the number eight pick, 152 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: like they go after this person, this person. It's like 153 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: you have to think about the way that the draft, 154 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: especially those first three rounds, are going to shake out, 155 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: and see kind of what happens in this first round 156 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: to understand, Okay, we have these two second round picks, 157 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: what do we want to do with them. It's when 158 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: you look at the top fifties and the overall rankings 159 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: by people smarter and more experienced in this field than us, 160 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: that you do see these top four edge dressers pretty high, 161 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: and then you kind of generally speaking, see the receivers 162 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: in that next tier. Yeah, and then you start thinking about, okay, 163 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: so what's the difference, and I'm gonna go down to 164 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: trade down rabbit hole for just a little bit. Is 165 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: that you think, Okay, well, Garrett Wilson sounds great at eight, 166 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: but Chris, if I'm pronouncing his last name, alive A, 167 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: sounds really good at fifteen with an extra pick. Right. 168 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: But so that's how I feel about the receivers with 169 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: the edge rushers, if we're talking about the top four. 170 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: I did kind of a who would you make the pick? 171 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: Make the call in the last bear mail that I did, 172 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: and so many people came with PFF accepted trades saying 173 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: that they can get Jermaine Johnson from Florida State and 174 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: edge rusher with a trade down, right? Would that scare 175 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: you if Johnson is your target. I'm not saying that 176 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: he is, But if Johnson is your target at eight, 177 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: would you feel comfortable trying to make a play down 178 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: and still get him or do you think that that's 179 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: too risky. I don't think I would feel comfortable making 180 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: a trade down to get him. But yeah, I think 181 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: that there are too many needy edge rusher needy teams. 182 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: I mean I think that if he's I don't think 183 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: Kavon will be there for the Giants. Yeah, And I 184 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: think the Giants should take would take Jermaine with either 185 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: five or seven. They're probably gonna take offensive line at five, 186 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: him at seven. If I think if Kvas there five, 187 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: they're probably take him at five. But I think they 188 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: take an edge rusher at five or seven, paired with 189 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: an old lineman the State or maybe someone else. Yeah, 190 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: that's another thing is I think you can't talk about 191 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: the edge rushers without also talking about the tackles that 192 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: are in this like the top ten. And that's another thing. 193 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised at the bout. I know we're 194 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: talking about wide receivers and edge rushers in this question 195 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: of the Week because it's you know, the arguably the 196 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: Falcon's greatest needs or those superstition groups. But they could 197 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: use an offensive tackle and if someone's there, it wouldn't 198 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: I know, that's not I've said this before, and I 199 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: know it's not a sexy pick, but I don't hate that. 200 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: I don't hate them going after an offensive tackle either 201 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: at number eight. And you talk about the top four 202 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: and somewhat of a drop off, it's seems with an 203 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: offensive tackle it's Neil Ekwando Cross and Trevor Penning maybe 204 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: floating a little bit underneath that, and you talk about 205 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: needing like a real a hole. Trevor Penning seems to 206 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: wear that as a badge of honor, right, and Arthur 207 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: Smith loves those guys, loves those guys. So so then 208 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: if you're not going to get a tackle high, then 209 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: how much of a drop off it is there? Uh? 210 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: Then there's this the sauce Gardener of it all. Although 211 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: it seems like the at least the buzz of those 212 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: talking to scouts and presenting, you know, mocks and some 213 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 1: of these reports is that sauce Gardner made almost likely 214 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: not be an option at number eight, Right, it seems 215 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: like that that's the way it's trending. I could, Yeah, 216 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: it seems like the Jets it seemed like they would 217 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: take him at four. Yeah, they grabbed the I think 218 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: with this conversation too, is like what you were saying 219 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: with trading down. I think that the when you think 220 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: about the Falcons, they're going to be likely the first 221 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: team to take a receiver, and then the team after 222 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: them probably won't take a receiver in the in the Seahawk, like, 223 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: the next team that will likely take your receiver would 224 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: be the Jets. Um and It's like you were saying, 225 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: if I can, if the edge guys are going, or 226 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: if whoever the fuck was over they are gone, you 227 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: can trade down and get a Chris Olave you get, 228 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: maybe you'd get Jamison Williams, maybe get one of those 229 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: kind of guys. You know, why not, especially if you 230 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: can get another big time twenty twenty three pick out, 231 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: because because the Jets seem that, at least the way 232 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: it looked, the way it seems is like they would 233 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: take the best defensive player at four the best offensive 234 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: player at ten. I mean, Robert sala is a defensive 235 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: minded guy, so maybe they maybe they double dip, but 236 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: it seems, you know, you'd want to get Zach Wilson 237 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: some help um and you know they kind of have 238 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: a guy like Garrett and Elijah Moore with the same 239 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: skill set, so maybe they want a bigger guy or 240 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: something like that. But yeah, it would seem like trading 241 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: down if it works out there, but not kind of 242 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: took us down this route. We weren't going there, but 243 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: it's popped out in my head like the Jets seemed 244 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: like the team that most likely in the before the Falcons, 245 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: who could take someone that could alter their plan. Right. Yeah, yeah, 246 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: so if if if you're looking for that big white 247 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: out that you'd feel a lot more comfortable doing that 248 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: for a Lave or somebody in that mid he's not 249 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: a mid tier, but in that range. Then trading down 250 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: and hoping you can get Johnson at twelve or Johnson 251 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: at thirteen or what have you, that seems unlikely, especially 252 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: with the scenario that you were painting that I too 253 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: am with you that this whole uh this all the 254 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: shade being thrown at at Cavan. Yeah, I don't remember. 255 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: I don't know that's going to show up on draft day. 256 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes you get a lot of these. It happens for 257 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith. You get these false narratives and then Arthur, 258 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: if you're listening, you converted Scott you have, you get 259 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: these false narratives out there. I think that's one. I 260 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: think he goes really high. Yeah, and maybe a tackle falls. 261 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: But anyway, so it's it's a very interesting thing about 262 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: what they can do at eight and what then they 263 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: could you later in the draft. Right, But one thing 264 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: that we can universally agree upon is that these two 265 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: positions need tons of help. So let's just take a 266 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: look at the edge rusher spot right now, okay, right, 267 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: right now, you have Lorenzo Carter. I'm staring at you, Tory, 268 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: because I don't have the answer. Is here on a 269 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: one year when he's here on a one year Essentially 270 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: everyone is on a one year deal. The amount of 271 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: times deal is Heyward, yeah, and Marcus Mariota Mariota yeah. Right. 272 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: That's the thing is we write these announcements that go 273 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: up on the site, and the amount of times that 274 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: I've written so and so is coming from the Bears 275 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: of the Lions or the Titans on a one year 276 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: deal is I don't even know how many times I've 277 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: written that, Right, it's true, but you get familiarity for 278 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: a guy who's probably not going to be around very long. 279 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: Again that you preserve the financial flexibility that's so yeah, 280 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: coveted in twenty twenty three. So, so you have Lorenzo 281 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: Carter on one side. I'm looking at in our lads 282 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: dot com draft or a depth chart is not mine. 283 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: And then you have odd Ogan Daiji at the other 284 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: James Voters under contract. Quentin Bell was a practice squad 285 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: player I think at this point. Yeah. Also there they 286 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: you know, are probably gonna run more of a three 287 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: man front with Grady Marlin Davidson to Kwan Anthony Rush 288 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: mixed in up front. So you've got all these these 289 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: are the pieces that you have. Yeah, this is not 290 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: the group that you can go into twenty twenty two with. 291 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: It's just not. I'm of the opinion Tory ranked THEA 292 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: needs one through five. I would even say that a 293 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: second edge rusher or a second receiver is more valuable 294 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: than some of these other parties totally if you could 295 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: do A one, A one B two A two Z. Right. 296 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: So we all seem to agree that that was a 297 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: little that was to b. I fixed it. We're back. 298 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: I think it's better that way. Then somebody on the 299 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: driving in their car and they're like, what that doesn't 300 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: not a math major? That don't make no sense. But anyway, 301 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: we don't. They need a lot of help. So and look, 302 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: we're not going to say who the best option in 303 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: the fifth round is, right because we don't really know that. 304 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: But when you look at it, that's why I think 305 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: ideally it seems to me, and I may say this 306 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: when we're talking about the whiteouts too, they need a 307 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: premier talent to help here. So if you could get 308 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: a Jermaine Johnson type, who I think is just like 309 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: scheme fit City in terms of what they like to do, 310 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: A bigger guy who can play the run, a strong 311 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: player could still get after the quarterback. But then that's 312 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: not it, right, So you've got do you need more 313 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: than one edge rusher in these in these five quote 314 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: unquote premium picks. We're talking to five picks in the 315 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: first eighty two. And again, I know when when it's 316 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: the same thing, it'll be who over what the third 317 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: round two. But I'm just saying, if we're thinking big 318 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: picture perspective, given the names that I just listed, do 319 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: they have to come out of this draft with more 320 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: than one person that can that can contribute. I'm not 321 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: ready to pull the trigger on multiple edge drushers in 322 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: this draft, um, just because I think you are still 323 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: buying your time and I don't think that it's entirely 324 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: necessary to fully reach for a guy in the fourth 325 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: or fifth round when you have another draft next year 326 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: that you could potentially use a higher pick on another 327 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: edge dresher. That here's the thing. I'm just really conflicted 328 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: about what direction they're going in, and I'm not sold 329 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: on multiple edge dreshers just yet. So if I can 330 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: just to repeat, Yeah, it sounds to me like you're saying, 331 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: don't think of the twenty twenty two draft as a 332 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: way to fix the twenty twenty two products. Right. You're wondering, 333 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: are they going to look at it as a one 334 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: acquisition point in a multi acquisition point, multi year process 335 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: of rebuilding the roster, right right? Because that's two separate things. 336 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: Because I'm saying, how can they fix the twenty twenty 337 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: two issues they have at this position? And you're saying, 338 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm that's not a priority for you. Yeah, that's not so. 339 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: I'm in the camp of twenty two is a wash, 340 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: and I will say that I just don't. I think 341 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: you go into tent twenty twenty two single, yes, but 342 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: but focus on the big pis you have to look 343 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: at twenty three. And that's also why I just wrote 344 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: a column that ran today on Tuesday when recording this 345 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: podcast about potentially drafting a quarterback this year. I am 346 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: team anti drafting a quarterback this year because I think 347 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: you're in a better position next year to go after 348 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: a quarterback that you want, whether it's trading for him, 349 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: getting him on the free agency market and or drafting him. 350 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: And I kind of feel the same way about multiple positions. 351 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: I don't think it's entirely necessary that you get these 352 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: big time guys in right now, especially when you have 353 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: projectively over one hundred million dollars in cap space next year. 354 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: I kind of look at I kind of look at 355 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: everything the Falcons are doing right now as kind of 356 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: what you were saying, it's the law. It's a long 357 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: haul help overall health of the organization in the franchise. 358 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: Then it is fixing what you have in twenty twenty two. 359 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: I say, just get through twenty twenty two. It seems 360 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: like there's a no. I I think if in terms 361 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: of rebuild, something about rebuilding the edge for this year, 362 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: I think if Ojabo was there in the second round 363 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: and you got Jermaine and the first, yeah, I would 364 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: probably take that yeah on a guy who had, you know, 365 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: a top fifteen grade just a couple months months ago 366 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: before his injury. And obviously it depends on what the 367 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: fuckings think about him. But yeah, I don't think you 368 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: need to load up on this position and feel like 369 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: you have to rebuild the edge. Rusher and defensive line 370 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: in this draft. I don't know if I don't think 371 00:19:58,320 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: you want to put all your eggs in one back 372 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: ask it in terms of waiting until a year to 373 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: get someone or waiting to make the move. But I 374 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,479 Speaker 1: do agree that you don't. You don't have to focus 375 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: on this year to just transform that that room. But 376 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: if you have a shot, an opportunity to take a 377 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: guy who had a high, super high grade before an injury, 378 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: and you can, and you're a team who's not probably 379 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: probably not a title contender in twenty twenty two, and 380 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: you can, you can wait for that player to get back, 381 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 1: I feel like, why not when you have two second 382 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: round picks, But you might have to miss out on 383 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: a receiver if you take Ojabo at forty three. But 384 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: if for example, but if if you're thinking about this 385 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: as a longer term play, I was actually gonna like 386 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: gonna ask you guys if he would be attractive to 387 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: you at numbers forty three or if you had to 388 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: move up or whatever, given the nature of his injury 389 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: and the explosives explosiveness that can be robbed. But I'm 390 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: in Chris's camp too, I would definitely go for it 391 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: and I'm just looking on the back end of this. 392 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: This wasn't part of the script. But also so if 393 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: we're saying that, look, they need multiple edge rushers, well 394 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: I just took a look at what's who's available in 395 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: terms of veteran edge rushers, and there are a ton 396 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: of names that we've all heard of who are going 397 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: to be available on the market who have experience. Now, 398 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: Jason Pierre Paul ain't gonna come play for cheap, Like 399 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: there are certain guys that you aren't that you don't 400 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: think even if it gets to July, they're gonna be like, 401 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna take a two year deal with 402 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: the Falcons at this point in my career, right, So 403 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: that's not realistic. But you look at a guy like 404 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: Carlos Dunlap, right, he's just a big dude. He's thirty three. 405 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: Benson Mayo is another guy that could come in. I'm 406 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: just throwing names out here. Carl Nasseb is another guy 407 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: with some experience. Maybe get you four or five sacks 408 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: and he can fill out your depth chart. So then, 409 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: because I came in saying and I feel like every 410 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: mock draft that I do on PFF, for one of them. 411 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: I'm hitting edge rusher twice, three times. I'm falling in 412 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: love with this guy, Cameron Thomas from San Diego State, 413 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: Nick Benito from Oklaham a month. But you know, I 414 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: can throw all these names out there and we can 415 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: evaluate them, but we don't know who's going to be 416 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: sitting there at eighty two or fifty eight. Right. It's 417 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: just that I think there are some intriguing names in 418 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: the draft, But when you look back at it, I 419 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: think this room needs needs a veteran presence really bad, 420 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: and they could add one later on. Even if when 421 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: you go to spot spot track or have you say 422 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: it that you're not picking from the biggest name in 423 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: the group, I still think there's enough out there, and 424 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: I think those guys are counting on that second free 425 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: agency wave post draft to be able to clean some 426 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: of those things up. But they do need one. And 427 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: if they're not going to get one at eight, if 428 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: the who doesn't match what you the value that like 429 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: that you need, then then I think the math changes 430 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: a little bit. Then they gotta get a second round 431 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: type of talent. Oh yeah, if you don't go edge 432 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: in the first round, you have to go edge in 433 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: the next three picks period, in my opinion, like I 434 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: would say, I would say that too, Yeah, like you 435 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: have to go out like you, I don't understand how 436 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: you wouldn't go those first three picks and not take 437 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: an edge rusher in either the first or the two 438 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: in the second. And I feel pretty confident thinking that 439 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: they would, just because even if we're looking big picture, 440 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: they need somebody, even if he's a bit more developmental 441 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: than these top four, at least get him going right. 442 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: So and that's another thing, like if you get a 443 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: guy in the second round, third round, even that needs 444 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: to develop, at least you have the time to do 445 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: it right. You have the time to develop him right. 446 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: That's the thing is I've been saying those large I 447 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: think the Falcons where they are in the organization right now, 448 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: like they have an opportunity to be patient. And I 449 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: know that's not something that fans want to hear. I 450 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: know it's not a fun thing to think about the 451 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: fact that your team can be patient in their decision making. 452 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: But I do think in a way the Falcons are 453 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: in this position that I don't know if a lot 454 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: of teams have been in in a few years. I 455 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: know the falcons, haven't, you know. Yeah, And they're not. 456 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: They're not kind of like chasing the dragon like that. 457 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: They're not trying to press to get something that they're 458 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: not really talented enough to reach, but they're still striving 459 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: for it. It's more of it's not acceptance, but it's 460 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: an understanding that, hey, we're going to be competitive, but 461 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: we're also going to keep our eye on the big picture, right, 462 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: And I think that that is an important thing. So 463 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: let's take all these kind of philosophical things that like 464 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: that we're talking about and apply it to the wide 465 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: receiver spot. Just like I said before, talk about Tory 466 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: saying one year deal, one year deal, well, one year 467 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: deal for Audent Tate and a Demi or Bird and 468 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: Cadaryl Hodge and well and Oz Right who just signed 469 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: his restricted free agent contract tender on Tuesday. So you've 470 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: got all those people. You have Frank Darby coming back. 471 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: This is another one of those things where you gotta 472 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: ask somebody, but you don't have to add it at eight. 473 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: And the beauty of the receiver class, right is that 474 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: when you get to the there's so many options. When 475 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: you look at mox Or, you hear people talk about it. 476 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, is Christian Watson a first round pa 477 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: is is Jahan Dots in a second round pick? You know, 478 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: there's a lot of these guys that are in this 479 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: cluster and you think, oh, he's pretty good, and then 480 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: they may move down towards forty three or towards a 481 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: spot in the draft you can maybe go up and 482 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: grab one that you love. My point is they have 483 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: got to infuse talent in this wide receiver room. Yes, 484 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: no choice, Yeah, maybe finding ways to do it right. 485 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: And it's really nice, uh, with looking at kind of 486 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: the big contracts that receivers are signing recently, being able 487 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: to get a young guy on a rookie deal, like 488 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: that's a really big deal. I think. I think the 489 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver spot is kind of fascinating too, because Calvin 490 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: Ridley still is kind of just there there. Yeah, so 491 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, or is he gonna be here in 492 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three? You have to consider that with the 493 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,479 Speaker 1: moves that you make in this year's draft based on 494 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: the skill set of a guy like Gary Wilson plays 495 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: a lot like Calvin. Do you want be talking about 496 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: a j Brown? Uh? And guys like that big physical 497 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: receivers who Arthur Smith have had in the past. If 498 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: if Calvin is back, for example, do you want two 499 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: guys who kind of play similarly in terms of finesse? Uh? 500 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: You know quick you know shifty receivers, or do you 501 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: want a big physical guy to pair with Calvin or 502 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: maybe another guy that you that you get that that 503 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: as shifting in that way. And also receivers are maybe 504 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: second took quarterback in terms of the most disgruntled position 505 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Whenever you whenever you turn a j 506 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: Brown just took Tennessee out of his bio. Uh, he's 507 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: not shown up to OTAs that is. It's not crazy. 508 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: You know the new CBA players that are centivized to go, 509 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: but you know, who knows, maybe he's on the market. 510 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: You turn around, someone is gonna be out there. Yeah, 511 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: there's gonna like you can bet there's gonna be right, 512 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a disgruntled I mean, I guess not 513 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: a superstar anymore, but yeah, there's gonna be a disgruntled 514 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: star receiver that you can get. However, you just bet 515 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: bet you can bet that is going to happen. So 516 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: also keeping that in mind and you can almost bet 517 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: that with quarterback too. Yeah, So how do you make 518 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: this spot attractive? That's that's also the issue is making 519 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: the spot attractive for those guys to come in or 520 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: else you're gonna have to pay a boatload of money 521 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: to get someone to come here. But again, I think 522 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: with the receiver, the fascinating part is how you build that. 523 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: And I think how you build it determines whether or 524 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: not you think Calvin is back and how you build 525 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: around him and Kyle and the skill set that you 526 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: want that that Arthur Smith wants to have. It is 527 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 1: receiving room. Yeah, And I think in the receiving room 528 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: it has to be more than what they saw last 529 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: year because the counter argument is, well, Kyle plays a 530 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: lot of X and Y and Z and everywhere else, 531 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: and they got Patterson, so the receivers are gonna be 532 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: no at not a real argument that if anyone comes 533 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: at me and says anything about Kyle and anything about CP, 534 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, we can't have the conversation about the 535 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: state of the wide receiver room when you're talking about 536 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: a running back in a tight end. It's just and 537 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how the scheme is set up. You're 538 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: still talking about a running back, and you're still talking 539 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: about a tight end second year ten Yeah, second year 540 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: tight end. And in addition to all that, let's just 541 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: kill the notion right now. I keep getting Julio Jones 542 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: back to the Falcon questions. It's just because that's that's 543 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: who they know. They want the jersey to come out 544 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: of the closet. Yeah, that is not happening. It's not 545 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: gonna happen. So that's over. I know we're almost against 546 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: time here. I don't want to go way down a 547 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: rabbit hole here, because what Chris said is there's always 548 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: going to be a receiver or a skill players like 549 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: upset with their situation or their contract or Christian Kirk 550 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: got x much and it's just ruined the market for everyone. 551 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: Everybody's mad. But I just think when I saw this 552 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: aj Brown stuff, right, I immediately thought, that's a guy 553 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to sell the farm for because he already 554 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: knows ar or he's a big, powerful dude. I know 555 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: he's been hurt, but he's always around a thousand yards, 556 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: not like he's DeVante Adams or something like that. But 557 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: it depends on how much he wants. But That's one 558 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: of those things where I'd be like, okay, man, like, 559 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: let's go play out the deal. We'll we'll set you 560 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: up from here on out. We won't draft a wide receiver. 561 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: That's our play, right, Yeah, that's our number forty three pick. 562 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: If that's what it takes, that's fine with me. Now, 563 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that's going to happen, but that 564 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: there's always gonna be those options. Tyreek Hill leaves the 565 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: best quarterback on planet Earth, right, Like that's somehow happens, 566 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: so anything can happen to go to Miami and play 567 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: with Tuah. But but I just think what question two 568 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: lost our minds here? But I'm just saying, well, let's 569 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: just take I didn't know his name was Arthur one Brown, 570 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: but let's just take Aja. Yeah, I guess, and then 571 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: just wham. I think that'd be a good way to 572 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: spend your money. It's a guy who those are and 573 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: understands how he plays and understands the mindset. And I 574 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: think he is the like everyone said, oh, let's go 575 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: find an A J. Brown or a Deebo say they're 576 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, he's right there. He's a bit more 577 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: expensive than trail on right, right, and not but maybe 578 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,239 Speaker 1: a better player. But I'm just saying that when we 579 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: talk about these positions, right, we're looking at the draft, 580 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: we're looking at free agency, right, there's nothing to say 581 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: that we can't look at these methods of acquisition, which 582 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: are very common. Yeah, it's proven. I think it's more 583 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: the Rams messed everything up. They surely did. I love it. 584 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: Fourth of the teams don't have a fourth first round pick, 585 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: or close to a fourth of the teams to have 586 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: a first round pick this year. It's like, it's proven 587 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: that teams are willing to sacrifice draft picks for proving 588 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: guys right now, to win, to win, to win. Well, yeah, 589 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: that focles aren't exactly the falcons aren't not yeah exactly 590 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: at that point, but your point still remains, Yeah, for 591 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,959 Speaker 1: a better shot at winning, teams were willing to And 592 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: I think in the fac situation, Aja Brown is what 593 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: twenty five twenty four? He is twenty four? Yeah. Wow. 594 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: So it's not like you're you're selling the farm for 595 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, right, You're investing in a guy who could 596 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: be here for you know, who could still you know, 597 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: be in prime for five to seven more seasons when 598 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,239 Speaker 1: you get to like twenty twenty four and ideally you 599 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: have a pretty solid roster put together that could go 600 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: out and win more games. Yeah, he's still in his prime. Yea. 601 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: There are guys in the draft who are twenty four 602 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: right now who are going to be drafted. Like I 603 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: think Kenny Pickett is about that, about that, um so, 604 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: you know, I just think all those things are are 605 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: on the table. Even though when you look at what 606 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: the Falcons are going through regaining financial flexibility, and you 607 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: hear so much about doing it the old fashioned way 608 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: through the draft, through the draft, through the draft, cheap 609 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: talent and then reward your own right that that that's 610 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: the like the the ideal, utopian view of how to 611 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: build a team. But I like that we're kind of 612 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: getting real here that it's that it's okay. The Titans 613 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: are a very good team. By they tried the draft 614 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: thing with Marcus Mariota. It did not work out for them, 615 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: but a trade for a seemingly washed up quarterback from 616 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: Miami paid enough divot well that in drafting Derrick Henry 617 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: in the second round paid enough dividends to make it work. 618 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: Or aj Brown, another second round guy, that's also proof 619 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 1: and then we'll cut out of here. When you when 620 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: when you talk about wide receivers, you think about Davante 621 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: and Deebo and AJ. Yeah, there's a lot of examples 622 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: of good second round people or good second round talents 623 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: that have come in and made quick contributions. So there's 624 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: lots of options to fix these two what I would 625 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: consider major issues. There's ways to do it now. I 626 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: think the moral of the story here and what we 627 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: help everybody kind of thinks about when they go through 628 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: this draft. Right, everybody wants to like win week one 629 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: and then every week after, and it's a it's but 630 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: we have to stop thinking in a short sighted way 631 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: and join Arthur and Terry and looking okay, down at 632 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: the present product, but at the horizon. Right, because I 633 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: came in thinking they got a draft two receivers and 634 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: two edge rushers, I don't care about anything else. Because 635 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: I was thinking, maybe incorrectly too much about the twenty 636 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: twenty two product. And you brought up tory that no man, 637 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: bring it back. Yeah, I've had my second cup of coffee, 638 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: but hey, bring it back and look at this thing 639 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: from a grand review. So hopefully that's what everybody else does. 640 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: Hopefully you all enjoyed our return by the podcast and 641 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna be regular now. Um, we have another one 642 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: pre draft. Then we got Steve Weish's a special guest 643 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: coming up after draft. So yeah, guys, keep it locked 644 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: on the website for a bunch of good content coming out, 645 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: rate review, subscribe, all that fun stuff, and we'll talk 646 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: to tell us. Wait now, tell us you miss us first. 647 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,239 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, please please, because we could all use 648 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: the ego every day. I mean, it'd be really nice 649 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: to have a confidence boost every now and again, just 650 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: every morning, every morning. You're a great guy that it works. Chris, 651 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: you're looking tall today. Short gag, short gigs ring. I 652 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: love it. On that note, we out here h