1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Holy Moley, son of Ashley. I've 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: been waiting like three days now to talk to you, 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: like anxiously waiting to talk to you because the news 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: and Bachelor Nation this week. I mean, we don't even 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: have time to talk about our own lives because there's 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: so much assumably going down in Batch Nation. Yeah. So 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: I remember seeing these rumors on Friday evening Pacific times, 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: It's like five o'clock. I was like, Jared, are you 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: seeing this on Instagram? On Twitter? It's like they're saying 11 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: that there's something that Claire wants to quit, or that 12 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 1: she she dropped out because she fell in love and 13 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: basically she couldn't fake it. She's like refusing to go 14 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: on with filming because she fell in love with this 15 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: guy Dale Boss. And then he was like, that's very 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: far fat this girl the same response I had. Okay, Yeah, 17 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: he was like, this girl has been around this franchise 18 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: for almost a decade. She knows how this works. There's 19 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: no way that she wasn't prepared to go in and 20 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: having to fake it a little bit, that she wasn't 21 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: going to tough it out she's been waiting six months 22 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: since being crowned the Bachelorette. Like, now, like, this can't 23 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: be true. These are definitely Internet rumors. Within two hours, 24 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: we were both like, Okay, I guess it's gotta be 25 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: true because there was too much smoke for their not 26 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: to be fire. So here's the scenario. As Ashley is mentioning, 27 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: our world's were rocked this week, thinking this is gonna 28 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: be a nice quiet week in Bachelor Nation. We're going 29 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: to review some Goad episodes, we're gonna hang out, we're 30 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: gonna talk, and then the rumors started flying. Here are 31 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: the rumors, just in case you haven't heard yet, because 32 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if everybody has. The rumor came out 33 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: that yes, our bachelorette for the last it feels like 34 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: two years of our life. But really, just like I know, 35 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: I like, wait, is Clarisa the bachelorette after Hannah Hannah 36 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: Brown was the lat Wow, that seems like a long time. 37 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: It's because it's an abnormal amount of time. But Claire 38 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: Crawley is rumored, rumored. Let's let's make sure that is 39 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: uh announced the world. We are we are reporting a 40 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: rumor that she has quit after twelve days of filming, 41 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: which is and what I think about a fourth of 42 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: what the expected time of filming was going to be. 43 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: She quit because she's already fallen in love with, as 44 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: Ashley mentioned, contestant Dale Moss. Now, all of this is hypothetical. 45 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: None of this has been proven. We are assuming this 46 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: has happened because of the reports and the outlets. In fact, 47 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: uh to kind of further our case that we think 48 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: this is true, Demi Burnett, who we know very well 49 00:02:54,720 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: Demi not Lovado on Instagram confirmed that one of her friends, 50 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: Tasha Adams, is filming for The Bachelor after clear quits. Now, Ashley, 51 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: these are massive stories, like a lot to process here. 52 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: So based on what we've read, based on what has 53 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: been reported, what are we hearing, and then let's talk 54 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: about what in the world this will look like when 55 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: the show airs. Okay, so let's go to the Demi 56 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: text against Tasia, last posted on Instagram on Thursday, and 57 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: that was like one of the first things Jared and 58 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: I went to go look forward, like, oh, well was 59 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: the last time that she was obviously on her phone 60 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: and it was Thursday, So I was like, maybe if 61 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: she has become the Bachelorette, they allowed her to have 62 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: her phone while she quarantined. She posted that and that 63 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: will be her last post. So I mean, we can 64 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: all follow along on her social media to see if 65 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: she posts anything within the next three weeks, because they 66 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: apparently like they had a set time of five weeks 67 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: to be filming at La Quinta, and Claire supposedly dropped 68 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: out two weeks into it. So now if we see 69 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: radio silence from Tasia on social media for the next 70 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: three weeks, obviously that's a big sign. Another big sign 71 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: is that not only did Demi see Tassia's phone be 72 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: off because she has an iPhone at went Green, we 73 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: also have an inside source very close to the podcast 74 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: who texted t Asia and her text also went green. 75 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: So here's what we're saying, Claire falls in love. Now. 76 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: We aren't going to spoil because we don't know if 77 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: this is true, what this love story looks like. So 78 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: that's gonna be fun to watch on television because there's 79 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: obviously a very quick and very intimate connection that's made. 80 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: If this is a true rumor from Claire in Dale, 81 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: then the show goes well crap, Like if she's quitting, 82 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: we stall have a season here. I mean people have 83 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: now waited a long time to have this season here, 84 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: and they call in Tasha Tassia Adams to be the 85 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: next Bachelorette to replace Claire. What we're saying this could 86 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: all be in one season, Like I could watch it 87 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: to my couch here in a few months and watch 88 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: this go down. I assume, if this is true, that 89 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: about a quarter to a third of the season will 90 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: be Claire season, and then midway through Tasia will take over. 91 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: But our our question is will Tasha take over with 92 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: Claire's leftovers, which at this point would be like, I 93 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: don't know, it's two weeks in, how many people would 94 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: be left? Twelve? And then there are reports that the 95 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: Bachelor producers reached out to the backup contestants UM two 96 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: weeks into filming, so you know, around the quitting time 97 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: to come back to La Quinta and UM. Based on this, 98 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: we're thinking that these are the guys that they sent 99 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: home that they quarantined here that we talked about last week. 100 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 1: How there were some shocking guys that were eliminated before 101 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: the premier episode even recorded. So actually, I don't want 102 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: to get into conspiracy theories here, because again, but you 103 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: do let's get into conspiracy theory a little bit, a 104 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: little bit, But I do want to make sure that 105 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: everybody listening knows that we aren't hiding, like what we 106 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: know right now is what we're saying now. We might 107 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: know more as the week continues, but we will have 108 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: to choose if we report that or not, just because 109 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: we don't want to spoil this season. But here's my 110 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory, just based on what I know right now. 111 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: There was forty two guys that we announced would be 112 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: on Clear season. We all said, this feels weird, this 113 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: doesn't feel right. There's so many dudes, like, how is 114 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: she going to navigate this? And then we we reported 115 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: last week and a lot of those guys kind of 116 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: went home where they never really like aired or they 117 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: got released early. Is there a chance that the show 118 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: knew all along that Claire was going to be madly 119 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: in love so early on that she couldn't continue And 120 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: they had forty two guys casted, background checked and ready 121 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: to go, so that a whole other bachelor I could 122 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: come in and date again. Good try Faery Ben. But 123 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: I don't agree with it because I don't think they 124 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: would have sent those guys home to be out in 125 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: the wild with COVID after they had gone through their 126 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: quarantine process and their quarantine test process that we know 127 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: is happening very strictly down there. I think they would 128 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: have kept them in their rooms and used some excuse 129 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: that they couldn't let them free into the wild because 130 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: of some COVID reason, right because they wanted to keep like. 131 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: I think they would have been honest or like maybe 132 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna throw you in Paradise style. I also um 133 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: and wondering, and that this is a big conspiracy theory. Okay, 134 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: I'm all for it today, I am. I feel like 135 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: if Claire truly fell for this guy within twelve days. 136 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: Oh wait, I should also mention that it's there's proof 137 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: that these guys were released into the wild, um and 138 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: they went back home, because so many of them posted 139 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: on social media last week, some of them even admitting 140 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: being like I'm no longer captive from ABC, and I also, oh, 141 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: I know, it's like, good, good job, dude, you're definitely 142 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: not going to be in paradise you got I'm glad 143 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: you got that post out there. Yeah. I UM, but 144 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: those guys. Apparently a lot of them did not want 145 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: to go back. They did not want to return when 146 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: asked to return. We'll see if that's just hearsay, and 147 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: we don't even know if they were asked to return, 148 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: Like all of this is hearsay, but beat this is 149 00:08:55,520 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: my big conspiracy theory that lair in Dale fell in 150 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: love so quickly and she was so sure that he 151 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: was the one after twelve days, because they were talking 152 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 1: the entire time from March when he was released as 153 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: part of the original cast to the day that they 154 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 1: actually met and he supposedly received the first impression Rose. Yeah, 155 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: then that's not a crazy thought now, okay, because uh, 156 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: we always get to share opinions on the whole thing. 157 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: Here's my opinion because I've thought about it. I know, 158 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: I said, especially with Colton season, Hey, you don't quit 159 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: the show like you never do. Like you can say 160 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: that you're quitting the show. You can jump over a 161 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: fence and try to run. The show still goes on. 162 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: Now with clear, when I see the word quit, I 163 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: still don't think she quits the show. The show, you know, 164 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: if they want to continue to display her show quits her. Yeah, exactly, 165 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: exactly like the show chooses for you. It's just that big. 166 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: It's the format. You can't get away from it. And 167 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: if they want to continue to like show and televise 168 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: her love story as this continues, if this is true, 169 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: then great the show goes on for Claire. So I 170 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, I that's one side. The second side of 171 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: this is I know. My first reaction to this was, 172 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: come on, Claire, like, if this is true, like you 173 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: could do like, don't quit the show, like you signed up, 174 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: you committed to it. People's jobs online. And then I said, 175 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: and I look, and I thought back to what I 176 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: had said about a year ago, and I have to 177 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: stick to this because I think it does still prove true. 178 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: Even though I'm wrong very often, I don't think you 179 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: and I were wrong on this. We watched the show 180 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: for the drama. We watched the show for the storylines. 181 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: We watched the show to be entertained. But ultimately, if 182 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: this show is going to be successful, and if I'm 183 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: gonna feel at all good about ever doing it ever, 184 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: then it was too hopefully either get better at knowing 185 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: what I want in a partner or finding love on 186 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: this show, actually pursuing something that could work on the 187 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: show because we watched the show for the love story, 188 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: and if Claire found her love story in a day, 189 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: in twelve days, in four months, she found it and 190 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: we have to celebrate that. I think I have a 191 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: lot of thoughts. I am somebody that if I were 192 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: the bachelorette, I would have a very very hard time 193 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: faking my feelings for other guys when I knew who 194 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: I was going to pick from the very beginning. Ben, 195 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: if you were to be completely honest, did you pretty 196 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: much know you're gonna pick Lauren at day twelve? Uh? 197 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: I think no, no, no, I'll answer this completely honestly. Um, 198 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: And I've shared it before. It's been years, but my 199 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: first impression was really like two days in. I was like, 200 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: holy cow, this this girl is fantastic, and she is 201 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: Lauren's fantastic. But I sold the show that I said, Hey, 202 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: I'm like pretty sold out here, like I don't know 203 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: how I'm gonna do this, And they told me one thing, 204 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: and I'm glad they did. They said, Ben, you have 205 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: one opportunity in your life two to date and get 206 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: to know multiple people at one time, like invest into 207 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: their lives, get to understand them, know them, ask them questions, 208 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: pursue them, and they said, give us a shot of 209 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: just getting to know some of these other women because 210 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: it's only been let's say, twelve days, Like there's a 211 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: lot of time left and you don't know what's gonna happen. 212 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: We see it with the show Ashley, where we you know, ten, 213 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there's a bomb dropped and your favor, 214 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: you know, the the leads favorite all of a sudden 215 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: admits to having a relationship back home where maybe uh, 216 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: their family is not going to be at all four 217 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: you dating them, or maybe they have some something that 218 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: comes up that is a deal breaker and you have 219 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: to I mean, I think one of the most famous ones, 220 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: uh is obviously like with Chris Siegfried, like that you 221 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: wait till the very end, and they said, just keep 222 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: your heart open for as long as you possibly can. 223 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: And I did that, and then when I did that, 224 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: feelings started to arise with other people. Now twelve days in, no, 225 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: I was pretty singular focused. Thirty days in, my heart 226 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: started to get pulled in different directions. Now at the 227 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: very end, as you saw, like I was very conflicted 228 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: but also had been reassured that like, this was the 229 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: path I wanted to pursue because it had been so 230 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: true to me the whole time. But I was conflicted, 231 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: and I look back now and yes, I would have 232 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: done a lot of things, uh to probably be wiser 233 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: in my decisions. But I'm glad still that I went 234 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: through the whole process because I believe it made me 235 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: a better man, because I've invested into other people's lives 236 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: without the agenda of, oh, I'm I need to marry you, 237 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: like I just I mean, I got to know Becca 238 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: Tilly from this like because I stuck, because it stuck around. 239 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: She's one of my best friends to this day. Like 240 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: I love that girl. Um, I got to meet like 241 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: the JoJo's of the world and understand who she is 242 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: as a human, the kayla Quinns, like Lauren's, like the Twins, 243 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: this someone aman of standing, Like I got to meet 244 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: some amazing people through it, and I'm I never will 245 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: regret that. So I know that was long winded. I 246 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: know those soapbox I would just recommend to any lead like, 247 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: I know your heart might be pulled, but you might 248 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: want to stick through it because I think you'll see 249 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: the life benefit from it. If you do. Okay, you 250 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: said that perfectly. My initial reaction was, oh, wow, you 251 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: know what if this doesn't prove she's here for the 252 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: right reasons, like nothing does, because you're like, she she 253 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: found what she was looking for, and she doesn't care 254 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: about eleven weeks of screen time, She doesn't care about 255 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: getting followers over that time. She just wants to be 256 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: with this guy. And then a couple hours later, my 257 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: feelings changed because I did think about Chris and Dez 258 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: and how Dez was so focused on Brooks the entire time, 259 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: and then I mean, from what we saw on TV, 260 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: once he came out of the equation, her eyes opened 261 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: up to somebody else who she's been married to for 262 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: almost I don't know, like seven years now. And I 263 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: just think that so much can change after those twelve days, 264 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: because if she's gonna have five days five weeks of filming, 265 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: that's thirty five days, so she was about a third 266 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: of the way in. And I just think you needed 267 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: to try a little bit harder to get to know 268 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: other people because of this. Twelve days, says lust to me. Well, 269 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: so here's how we summarize this. There's a lot of 270 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: unknowns as Ashley just mentioned she does know Dale from 271 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: a distance, doesn't know him personally, has a friend that 272 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: knows him. We will celebrate a love story if it 273 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: is a love story, like we wrap clear up and 274 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: say congratulations, this is amazing. It worked. But is it 275 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: the wisest thing to do given the circumstance. It's yet 276 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: to be seen. We don't know, and we're just here 277 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: to tell you this is going to be wild television. 278 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: And as mentioned before, we don't know a lot yet, 279 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: but we will continue to dive and as details come in, 280 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: we will process through. Now if they're wise to tell 281 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: you all, or if their best not to say because 282 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: we don't want to spoil anything. However, there is an 283 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: opportunity to talk to us a little bit more about 284 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: all of this, Ashley tell him, how Yeah, so we 285 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: could have a cocktail with you, guys, hang out with 286 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: you and your closest three friends. 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Oh, there's not much to 322 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: elaborate on beyond that she was on the Everything Iconic 323 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: podcast and it was air to this past Wednesday, and 324 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: she was honest that she she'll tell uh Becca Koufrin 325 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: that she thinks that Garrott is a piece of and 326 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: that she will not f with him. Um. She says 327 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: that he's doubled down on his beliefs, so this is 328 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: not the first time he's had problematic behavior when he 329 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: was on his season. Of course, we all know that 330 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: he had a history of liking things on Instagram that 331 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: were racist, sexist, homophobic, h and other bad things, and 332 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: she just continues to say that that proved to me 333 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: that he's a piece of Uh. It's strong words. And 334 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: I don't know that Rachel would be saying these things. 335 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: If I don't know, I don't know. This is strong, right. 336 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: Do you think that she would be saying things that 337 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: things were good between Becca and Garrett? Do you think 338 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: that like or she does doesn't care, She's going to 339 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: speak her mind on this person because she has such 340 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: strong feelings. I mean, it's it's it's Rachel. And Rachel 341 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: has never shied away from saying how she feels when 342 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: she feels it. So I don't know if there would 343 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: be any correlation between if Becca and Garrett are still 344 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: together if they're not, I think Rachel would have spoken 345 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: her opinion either way. Now you know, I don't know 346 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: their their friend dynamic and kind of you know what 347 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: Becca has asked of Rachel or vice versa, but Rachel 348 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: obviously has an opinion. She shared it, and now it 349 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: is making news. It's a it's a headline. I mean, 350 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: that's that's a strong I don't think we've ever seen 351 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: anybody come out so adamly against somebody within Bachelor Nation 352 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: before completely agree. So it is this is obviously branching 353 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: from the fact that he posted a Blue Lives Matter 354 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: picture a couple of weeks ago, and she said that, 355 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, the whole explanation that he gave was just problematic. 356 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: And she said that she got emotional, but she also 357 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: knows that Becca got emotional as well somebody else that 358 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: has been outwardly against Garrett. Uh. And you know, I 359 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: do think it's it's take a second here and say 360 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: that these headlines are always a little bit of a clickbait, right, 361 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: like they always, um, you know, there's always a little 362 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: bit more to the story, but with this one, there 363 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: really wasn't. Um. Rachel Lindsay said what she said, and 364 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: she's doubling down on it. Well. Um. Becka Martinez then 365 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: um also has pretty strong words to say for her 366 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: followers or the people who are commenting on her post, 367 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: says Becka Martinez. Clips back at critic who called breastfeeding 368 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: photo disgusting. She said, it's absurd. I mean, I think 369 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: it is absurd that anybody would call this disgusting. She 370 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: posted a picture of both of her kids, one on 371 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: each nipple, and she said, Uh, this person said she's 372 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: too old to be breastfeeding, and it's going to have 373 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: psychological issues when she's older because she's being breastfed at 374 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: the age of eighteen months. So then Martinez, you know. 375 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: So then Becca cops back and said, my daughter is 376 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: not even eighteen months, and I'm already getting pictures like this. 377 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: It makes me, she says, as a joke, UM, want 378 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: to nurse Ruth until she's like seven years old. Um, 379 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: she just breastfeeding. Um. I mean, I think most women 380 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: stop with them in the first year, but also it's 381 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: not uncommon to go through year two or especially eighteen months. 382 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm not an expert on this, but I know that 383 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: I think that you know, Jay definitely breastfed Emmy beyond 384 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: twelve months, I believe. And Rebecca also says if a 385 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: child is voluntarily nursing, there is nothing psychologically damaging about 386 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: nursing through or even past the toddler years. She says, 387 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: we've got it so backwards as a society. Now children 388 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: don't have any concept of breastfeeding being sexual. So I 389 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: guess the answer is toddler years. Yeah. I mean, honestly, 390 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: I don't know the common age, but I trust Becca 391 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: as a mom. She's an incredible mom. She loves her 392 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: kids so well that um, you know, I just, uh, 393 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: it's pretty incredible. I think to take away from this 394 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: is that somebody out there following on Instagram would have 395 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: such a negative reaction to a mom doing a mom thing. Uh. 396 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: That's where things get concerning from me. Come on, let's 397 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: be better. But speaking of better, the host of the show, 398 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison remembers in an Instagram post sneaking around with 399 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: girlfriend Lauren Ziema uh and his two year anniversary post this, 400 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: according to people dot Com, well, I can't believe they've 401 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,239 Speaker 1: been together for two years. I mean I don't I 402 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: can believe it, but I can't believe it's been two years. 403 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: Time has flown. I remember when Lauren and I were 404 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: with Carly Evan and of course Jared down in Mexico 405 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: six months after she and Chris were together, and they 406 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: were still completely under wraps, and we were in the 407 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: back of a car playing a guesting game with Lauren 408 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: trying to figure out who her boyfriend was for like 409 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: thirty minutes because she said he was a public figure. 410 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: And we went through all these celebrities and we did 411 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: hit Chris. We were like, are you doing Chris Harrison, 412 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: and she played it off so well. They ended up 413 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: coming out about their relationship about five six weeks later. 414 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: It was really funny. They are so cute together. Um, 415 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: if you guys would know them both personally, you you 416 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: would be able to see how compatible they are. And 417 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: they just talked about in these Instagram posts on their 418 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: two year anniversary how in love they are and how 419 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: their relationship gets better and better as time goes on. 420 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: But of course they're missing each other so much because 421 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: he is down at Laquita totally quarantined and they're not 422 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: allowed to have any family or friends come down and 423 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: visit because it is a bubble there that nobody is 424 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: allowed in or out. And it's different because Chris usually 425 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: like flies into these locations where they're shooting a couple 426 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: of days after the whole crew because he usually only 427 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: has to be there for rose ceremony times, serious talks. 428 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: He has a more flexible schedule usually and he's able 429 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: to have more family and girlfriend time. But this season, 430 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: he he's completely confined to the Laquina bubble for five weeks. It's, uh, 431 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: you know what, it's awesome to see, and I think 432 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: that's about where we can leave it is. Chris, Harrison 433 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: and Lauren do have a great relationship. It's been fun 434 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: to be around. Uh, and I'm sure this is hard 435 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: for for him and the rest of Really, I mean, 436 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: this is a good moment to mention the whole staff 437 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: that works on the show to be away from families 438 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: as they film. Uh, this baschlar At season, it's going 439 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: to be a long time away from family and friends, 440 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: and we're wishing the best, wishing Chris the best and 441 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: Lauren as well. Well. That's hey, that's all we got 442 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: for Bachelor Hot Topics this week. Obviously, there were some 443 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: very hot topics within hot topics this week. Ashley. Let's 444 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: take a break here, get a breather, uh, and we'll 445 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: be back with the breakdown of this week's go episode. 446 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: As we discussed earlier, we have a special guest, Kevin 447 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: Manno coming on in just a few minutes. Uh. Kevin 448 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: is married to Ali Fitatowski and is also the father 449 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: of their two kids, Riley and Molly. Now, before we 450 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,479 Speaker 1: bring them on, Ashley, I know this season, Ali's season, 451 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: You've talked about it before, is one of your favorite. 452 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: Let's say, most impactful seasons that you've ever watched for 453 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: you personally, and I don't know how much detail we've 454 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: ever gone into this, but tell me why. Okay. So 455 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: I was babysitting and The bachelorrette was on their DVR. 456 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: Nothing was on TV, so I was like, okay, I'll 457 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: watch this show. Um I was twenty two. Yeah, I 458 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: just graduated from college and I was like, okay. So 459 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: I watched a two hour episode and I'm not sure 460 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: which one it was. I think it may have been 461 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: the one with Justin where they talked about how he 462 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: had a girlfriend back at home. Because it was super compelling, 463 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, whoa this show. It's fantastic. I 464 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: gotta get my mom to watch it. And I realized 465 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: that the finale was like this upcoming week and I 466 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: was like, Mom, do you want to should we binge this? 467 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: So we binged the entire uh ten episodes leading up 468 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: to the finale in one weekend and it was a 469 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: fantastic time. It got me into the franchise, and I 470 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: don't know, I loved Ali and I I just I 471 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: fell in love with the show with the season. It 472 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: feels like to me too, because I watched Alie season, 473 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: and I watched you watch Ali's season back when you 474 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: were like a kid. Yeah, when I was a child 475 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: and I watched it with my mom. I remember, like 476 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: the I mean, there's a lot of seasons become a 477 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: blur over time, a lot of seasons feel the same 478 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Like you got justin I think it. 479 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: His name was like rated R or you know whatever. 480 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: His like wrestling and and he was like the good 481 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: looking guy that you thought at the beginning was gonna win. 482 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: And then he had a huge character change where you 483 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: know it happens when you watch the show, and then 484 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: you have some of the the the characters from her season, 485 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: I will say our some that still stand out to 486 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: me today. And that season is when I remember because 487 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: I felt so much for her and wanted to see 488 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: her find love. So I'm with you, like this Alie season, 489 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: I think for most people is a memorable season in 490 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: the midst of kind of a time where there wasn't 491 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: a lot of memorable seasons. Oh yeah, I think she starts. 492 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: Is it weird for me to say that? I think 493 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: she starts memorable seasons or she starts really dramatic things 494 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: like guys leaving because they have feelings for other girls 495 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: or guys who have girlfriends back at home. I don't 496 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: think this was something that we saw prior. However, can't 497 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: speak on behalf of it because it was obviously the 498 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: first season I ever watched. Ben. I actually I disagree 499 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: with you and the fact that, like I forgot about 500 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: all these characters except for Roberto until last night. So 501 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: I was reading our rundown and our lovely Danielle producer, 502 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: Um she she gives us, you know, a little bullet 503 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: points the important parts of the episode, and I was 504 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: reading them before I put it on, and I and 505 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: I was like, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank. I think you 506 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: really liked Frank. Oh, I think that like Frank was 507 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: like a really big character for you. And then like 508 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: him with the image of the glasses and all that 509 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: kind of came back to me. And I haven't thought 510 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: of Frank for maybe nine years, but he was one 511 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: of my very favorite batchelor contestants, and it's just bizarre 512 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: that he was just like, it's like one of those 513 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,239 Speaker 1: songs that it's like a song that you forgot that 514 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: you loved, or a movie that you haven't seen in 515 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: years and you're like, oh my god, that was one 516 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: of my favorites. He was one of my favorite Bachelor 517 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: Nation characters, and I forgot all about him until we're 518 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: being reminded last night and did you did you watch 519 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: that part of the episode. Yeah? I did, and and 520 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: Frank stands out to me. But my here's my argument 521 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: to you. Okay, so from her season, you obviously have Roberto, 522 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,239 Speaker 1: who we remember because he was at the very end 523 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: he won, right, they were together for a while. That 524 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: was a relationship that I remember being actively involved in 525 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: as a fan and wanting to see work, and it 526 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: just didn't. Um. But there's two people from this season 527 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: out side of Justin Uh because we don't need to 528 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: spend a lot of time on him Uh and Frank, 529 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: who was obviously I think a fan favorite who kind 530 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: of just like disappeared because it was before social media, 531 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: we didn't hear a lot about it afterwards. There's two 532 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: people that I will never forget from the season. One 533 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: is Chris Lambert, who has gone on to have a 534 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: very successful hosting career on h G t V. If 535 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: you like watch h G t V, you would never 536 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: be like, oh, that's Chris Lambton from The Bachelor. No, no, no, 537 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: that's just that's just I'm good Lambdon Lambton. Yeah, that's 538 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: Chris l Like no, he's like he's made his own career. 539 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: He's not from The Bachelor right anymore? No, which is incredible. 540 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: But here is the one character Ali or Ashley from 541 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: Ali season that has still suck with me to this day, 542 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: has still ruffled my feathers, has made me confused. I'm 543 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,479 Speaker 1: gonna give you no chances to guess because I think 544 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna guess it. But it's the very first time 545 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: I remember being like visibly I don't even want to 546 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: say annoyed or just like had visible like a reaction 547 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: to a character on a season. Okay, okay, Casey, Casey 548 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: got a tattoo during the season to prove his love 549 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: for Ali. That now, that might, in my opinion, go 550 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: down as one of the most dramatic, one of the 551 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: most unnecessary, and one of the most like outrageous. I 552 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: don't want to call it anything more than outrageous, like 553 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: decisions ever done. And then he did. And then remember 554 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: he was like a singer too, so he wrote a song. 555 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: Oh yes, so cringe, so a week after week. I 556 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: remember watching Casey being like, good looking dude. I think 557 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: like this guy would be a guy that like you 558 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: would like if you met him outside the show. But 559 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: he week after week was like cringe worthy television, Like 560 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: just like doing things that made you go, you got 561 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: a tattoo, you wrote a song and I and that 562 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: has stuck with me to this day. That's hilarious. He 563 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: was also on um what he he was definitely on spinoffs. Sure, 564 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: I think he probably went on like as I'm talking here, 565 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: go ahead, let's look it up. I think he was 566 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: probably on Bachelor Pad or Paradise, but it definitely a 567 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: bachelor patter. Yeah, go ahead and confirm that. So what 568 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: we see with Ali season is some characters that we 569 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: that are are crucial to the franchise that we maybe 570 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: have forgotten. So reliving this season was something special and 571 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: now we get to kind of make it all for 572 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: full circle with once again bringing out one of our 573 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: favorite guests who has been on a few times, Kevin, 574 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: who is married to Ali now who has two kids 575 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: with Ali uh And as I said before, Ali's love 576 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: story has been one that I have been very very 577 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: very much like involved in wanting to see her happy 578 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: for years, and it's good to see her happy now. 579 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: Uh and and still being just a great representation of 580 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: the franchise. So actually, I know you just looked it up. 581 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: Where else did we see Casey? He was on season 582 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: two of Bachelor pad and he also I think the 583 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: year that that he was on The Bachelor atte he 584 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: got arrested for being in a bar fight. See that 585 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: doesn't feel so Casey still to this day is a 586 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: is a character that confused me because on the show 587 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: he kind of just seemed like love struck. He seems 588 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: sweet yet a little like would make some cringe reaty decisions, 589 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: but very You know a lot of times you watch 590 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 1: this show and you're like, I don't really think they're 591 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: there for love, right, Like I mean, they might be, 592 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: Especially today, we're starting to see more and more that, like, hey, 593 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: let's read through the line. Some people are there, some 594 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: people aren't. Let's eliminate the people that aren't there for love. 595 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: If you were to ask me one character that I 596 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: know was there to try to meet somebody, I would 597 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: have to argue that Casey was one of them, because 598 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: he continue to do things that some would argue for 599 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: for attention, but I think they were just out of 600 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 1: this like almost desperation to be with Ali. Oh really, 601 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: because on on the other side, I think it's her attention. Really, 602 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: why would actually use I don't know. Listen, if I 603 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: had watched this episode before, like a week ago, so 604 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: that we could book Casey to be on here, I 605 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: would be like, Okay, Casey, do you still have the tattoo? 606 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: Has a transformer too? Something else? Have you gotten it? 607 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: Lasered off? Doesn't symbolize something else to you because it 608 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: was like a row, it was rose in in. What 609 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: was it like a shield? Protect your heart? Shield? Okay, 610 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: well look you could apply that to anyone. Yeah, it's 611 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: got to reach out to I can't imagine uh being 612 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: with Jessica to day and we go on our first date. 613 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: She says, what's the tattoo in your arm? And I'm like, oh, 614 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: at this one time I was on this show and 615 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 1: I got a tattoo to protect my heart and it 616 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: just like stuck with me, Like I don't know. If 617 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: like that gets explained easily, I think she'd be like, 618 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: this feels a little different. Can we talk about Frank 619 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: one more time before we get Kevin on the phone. 620 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: First off, it's so obvious watching this back, like I 621 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: was so innocent, naive and being like, yeah, he still 622 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: had lingering feelings for the girlfriend that he broke up 623 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: with months ago. No, like he left, he legit. In 624 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: the interview with Chris Harrison today, said that he admits 625 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: that he broke up with the girlfriend to go on 626 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 1: this show, and that's never It's not uncommon storyline anymore. 627 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: It's not a common storyline anymore because we know it 628 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: sounds bad. No, it's not uncommon. I mean, think about 629 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: it and yeah, but we don't admit to it anymore. No, 630 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: no, no no, you hide it at all costs, right, I mean, 631 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: you know people who have ended and I'm not my 632 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: opinion on this is maybe one that some would disagree with, 633 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: but it's okay. You get the opportunity to date somebody 634 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,479 Speaker 1: who you view as being extremely special on television. You're with, say, 635 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: a relationship that you aren't positive on that you have 636 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: questions about that you're going to end anyways. You know 637 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: at some point I've we've talked about this too. Is 638 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: how long is too long until you can start dating 639 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: again after relationship. I don't think there is a timeline 640 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: right there isn't like a stick a stuck amount like 641 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: it takes you and your own individual story to get 642 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: over the person. So if somebody ended a relationship to 643 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: go onto the show, I don't know if it's something 644 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: I can be against because because at least they ended it. 645 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: They ended it. Now, if you're still yeah, did you 646 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 1: say I did it? No no no no, I said, 647 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: I can't be against it because I did it. No 648 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: no no, no no no. But I think the big 649 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: problem that we have and what we've seen here and 650 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 1: you know recently and most you know famously, I guess 651 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: would be with the Hannah Brown season is when you 652 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: are still in a relationship and you go on the show, 653 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: that's where things don't right. Yeah, And at least with Frank, 654 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: he did come out to Ali, maybe too late, because 655 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: she did develop such strong feelings that like he was like, Okay, 656 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: I actually have feelings for somebody back at home. I 657 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: left her for this and I just can't do it anymore. 658 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 1: What I love about this story and what we learned 659 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: from this Goat episode is that they actually hung out. 660 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,479 Speaker 1: I mean, according to him, it was more friendly I think, 661 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: but I think he was also being coy and then 662 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: for her, it was kind of like they tested the 663 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 1: waters after she did break up with Roberto, because I 664 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,760 Speaker 1: think that if it if he didn't have a girlfriend 665 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: back at home and he got down to that final 666 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: two between you know, Frank and Roberto, I think that 667 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: Frank probably would have won. I would not argue that. 668 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: I think I think there was a good chance it 669 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: felt that way. Now, actually, let's pause here. Obviously is 670 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: gonna be a little weird to talk about this season 671 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: with Kevin, but we want to catch up on Kevin 672 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: and Ali's lie, So let's pause here. Bring on Kevin. 673 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,720 Speaker 1: Uh to the podcast. Kevin, Welcome to the Almost Famous 674 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: podcast once again. Hi guys, thanks for having me back. 675 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: How weird is it that you're your wife's going to 676 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: be dating twenty five guys on television for three hours? Uh, 677 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's weird, Like if you ask, you know, 678 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: you're just a normal person. Yes, that's a weird thing. 679 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: But this is such a huge part of her life 680 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: and I've known that ever since we we met her, 681 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: or since since we met her, since I met her, 682 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: um and I've never actually watched this season until now, 683 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: so I'm I'm honestly excited about it as as a husband. 684 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you've handled this well. We've talked to you 685 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: a couple of times, like what are the emotions? Because 686 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: obviously my season had reaired and Jessica chose not to 687 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: really watch it. She watched bits and pieces but cut 688 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: out some of the most like intimate moments of the season. Um. 689 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: And then afterwards she called me and she she did 690 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: she said me texted him and she just said, Hey, 691 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,439 Speaker 1: I'm really proud of you for like how you handle 692 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: this week. I know it was an ideal. Do you 693 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: feel like a sense of like are you proud of Ali? 694 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: Are you nervous for Ali? Um? I'm definitely proud of her. 695 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,439 Speaker 1: I mean Ali is, you know, an extremely strong woman, 696 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 1: and I know she handled herself very well on the 697 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: show with certain confrontations and stuff. And so she was 698 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 1: young when she did it. She was twenty four, So 699 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 1: to be able to like stand up to some of 700 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: these guys at that age, that's something to be proud of. Um. 701 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm excited. I know that she has sort of a 702 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: mixed bag of emotions right now as you did. Uh, 703 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: But I'm excited. I don't know, I I've, like I said, 704 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: I've never seen it, and I have never wanted to 705 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: sit down and watch the entire season. Like if I 706 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: could have requested a nice, condensed, you know, two and 707 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: a half hour thing to watch, I would have done that. 708 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: So so I'm happy that this exists now, at least 709 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: selfishly personally for me. Um. And yeah, I mean I 710 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: don't think she did anything embarrassing on the show or 711 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: or anything by any means, So I have no hang 712 00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: ups about the rest of the world watching it, or 713 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: parents or whoever else. So just for our audience sake, 714 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: you guys, we get the screeners. Kevin hasn't seen the 715 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: episode yet. It's Monday. He'll be watching it tonight. Like, 716 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: how do you plan on watching this? Is it gonna 717 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: be together? Is it gonna be with a lot of wine? Yeah? Um, 718 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: wine for Ali, tequila for me after the kids go 719 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: to bed. Um. Yeah, we'll definitely watch it together. I anticipate, 720 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, probably looking away through some of the kissing 721 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,760 Speaker 1: scenes and stuff. Um, but I mean I've seen clips 722 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: with her, you know, over the years and stuff obviously, 723 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: so I don't know. I'm excited to see, like what 724 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: this Casey character is all about the guy that kept 725 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: singing to her favorite and uh see, like Roberto, stuff 726 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: doesn't bother me at all because the two of them 727 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: were engaged for a while afterwards and it didn't work out. 728 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: You know, if if there's anybody that has ever like 729 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: snuck into my subconscious, it would be Frank because for her, 730 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: if you're familiar with the season, I guess he's kind 731 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 1: of the one that got away, so that you know, 732 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,240 Speaker 1: maybe during the Frank stuff, I might check my phone. 733 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: I was going to say that, Yeah, I mean, I 734 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 1: was just gonna say Casey was my character that like, 735 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,720 Speaker 1: I'm most intrigued by, uh I just for multiple reasons. 736 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,240 Speaker 1: He's saying to her he got a tattoo during the season, 737 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: like we're talking about it right before you got here, 738 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 1: Like that intrigues me. Ashley is a big fan of Frank, 739 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: Like she just thinks, like, hey, that's he was a 740 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: solid dude, but like their story didn't play out. I 741 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:26,959 Speaker 1: have one question before I throw it at Ashley, because 742 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: she this is her like legendary season. She loves the season. 743 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 1: Um so the kissing part, because I don't I didn't 744 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: know how to handle this with Jessica now granted, you know, 745 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: we had a lot of conversations. We've had had a 746 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: lot of conversations about past dating history, but never in 747 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: this world is it ever really like healthy, nor does 748 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: it happen that often that you have to see the 749 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: person that you love and care about and have committed 750 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: to and you know, put your your you know, your 751 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: heart into kiss somebody else, Like even if it's thirty 752 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: years ago, twenty years ago, ten years ago, you know, 753 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: it hurts a little bit, or maybe it feels weird. 754 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: I know it did for Jessica. How does it feel 755 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,479 Speaker 1: for you? Um, since I haven't seen yet, I can't 756 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: totally answer that, but I don't think it's gonna bother 757 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: me that much. I mean, because it was ten years ago. 758 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: To me, that is like I you know, I've had 759 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 1: past relationships. Ali knows that, Yes, she's ever had to 760 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,919 Speaker 1: watch me kiss those people, but it's just a part 761 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: of her life. I've known it since the day I 762 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: met her. I know that there are group dates and 763 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: one on one dates and fantasy suites and hot tub 764 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: scenes and all of these things. I know they exist. 765 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 1: So yes, I might feel differently when I actually see it, um, 766 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: but I guess maybe I'm approaching it like like a 767 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: like a significant other of an actor would like, it's 768 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: something that she did and had to do, and you know, 769 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 1: it's it's certainly doesn't affect us now. So it's interesting. 770 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna I was gonna say that, Um, Frank, 771 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 1: I would how do I work this? It would be 772 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: very weird to watch that relationship because it ended so abruptly, 773 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: and because it seemed open ended to a certain degree. 774 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: But you must be really thankful that between her season 775 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: and you guys getting together, she did have some communication 776 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 1: with him and kind of like ruled that out, a 777 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: little bit of closure with Frank. Uh. Yeah, I am. 778 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm happy that that happened. I mean just personally, you 779 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 1: know it. I guess it takes away any sort of 780 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 1: jealousy for me, but then for the most both of them, 781 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,799 Speaker 1: because you don't want to live with that sort of 782 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: uh what if exactly? Yeah, you want closure on that 783 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: sort of a thing. So it seems like I from 784 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 1: what I understand, he is in a committed relationship and uh, 785 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,959 Speaker 1: you know, Allie and I are, Oh it is easy married. 786 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: He's married. Yeah, he's been married for a year and 787 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 1: a half. Good. Well, good for him then uh, um, 788 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: but yes, I mean I'm not a jealous person. I 789 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 1: never have been, even previous relationships. Um, and so I 790 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 1: don't certainly, I don't want it to seem like I've 791 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: ever been jealous of Frank. But that is a different 792 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: situation because of the way it ended between them. But yeah, no, 793 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: I mean I'm I'm good with it now. I don't 794 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 1: know if it's coming across that way, but I really am. 795 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: I promise no. I mean, hey, hey, you've got your 796 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: dad of two, you're happily married, Like, it's definitely coming 797 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,839 Speaker 1: across that way. It's worried about that. Oh yeah, it's 798 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,839 Speaker 1: so funny. People are like, we'll completely over analyze our 799 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,439 Speaker 1: significant others responses to like us having to relive these 800 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 1: seasons over again. When Jared and I did the interview 801 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: with Chris Harrison on Caitlin season, people are like, it 802 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: seems like Jared's just like having to reassure actually, like 803 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: over and over again. I'm like, no, like literally, I 804 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: do not care, babe. You do not have to apologize 805 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 1: for this. But they want to see the drama in 806 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: it all. Yeah, but I think all like leading up 807 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: to this thing, I have been more excited to watch 808 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 1: it than Ali has. I think she's got some of 809 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,359 Speaker 1: those nerves and like a god, who was I ten 810 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: years ago? And what did I say? And stuff? But 811 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: I just want to see it. I just I mean, 812 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: I've always sort of been curious, but like I said, 813 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 1: I didn't really want to sit through the entire season 814 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,399 Speaker 1: and all of the kissing scenes. So I'm I'm looking 815 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 1: forward to it. Exactly the same thing with us. It 816 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, Caitlyn season, this is gonna 817 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: be great. That's gonna be so funny. And then like 818 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,839 Speaker 1: he was like, I can't do it. I can't do it. 819 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: That's funny. You and Ali just recently suffered a big loss, 820 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 1: you guys, hat a miscarriage. Um, how has that affected 821 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:18,360 Speaker 1: your relationship your family the past month or so? Um? Yeah, 822 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: I don't so sorry, I'm so it's okay, thank you, 823 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: thank you for that. Um. I mean, what we went 824 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: through is nothing compared to what so many others go 825 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: through that, you know, maybe have been trying for years 826 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: and then suffer a loss like this, So ours really 827 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: pales in comparison to that. It is a sad thing. 828 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:36,919 Speaker 1: And I was, you know, I was there for Allie 829 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: as much as I could be because just physically it uh, 830 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: you know, it affects a woman and emotionally just like 831 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: what it does to your body, um, when your body 832 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 1: thinks that you're pregnant. UM. So you know, I did 833 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: what I could to be a supportive husband, be there 834 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: for her. UM. But we're doing good. We're mentally and 835 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: emotionally and everything. We're strong and we're back to you know, 836 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 1: back to where we were. We're good. Well, we haven't 837 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,280 Speaker 1: been able to tell you in person yet, but actually 838 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: Nicement quite a bit of time on a podcast a 839 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: few uh months ago talking about this and and we 840 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: don't have to to lean into it too too much, 841 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: but we just wanted to check in, uh and just 842 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: tell you, guys, thank you, Uh you have handled it. UM. 843 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: I guess well, I don't know if well is even 844 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 1: a word you can throw around it. But for the 845 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: people out there and the listeners and the write ups 846 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,280 Speaker 1: that we get, uh, and for you all helping people 847 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,720 Speaker 1: feel less alone. UM, just a really incredible uh stance 848 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: that you took, uh. Communication that you gave publicly. The 849 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 1: vulnerability was just admirable and we learned a lot from 850 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 1: you guys, So with that, just thank you for doing that. 851 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: But also we are we have been thinking about you, 852 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: We are thinking about you and uh and we know 853 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 1: it's not easy for you or Ali, but just we 854 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,879 Speaker 1: we and our fans really appreciate um, how you guys 855 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 1: navigated it. Well, it's very nice for you to say. 856 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 1: And honestly, I mean I think you know, I ultimately 857 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,439 Speaker 1: left it up to Ali whether or not she even 858 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: wanted to make it public, But that was that was 859 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 1: why she wanted to make it public is because it's 860 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 1: uh still I guess a slightly taboo thing in our 861 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 1: society that maybe women don't talk about it as much 862 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: or it's not talked about. So I guess if she 863 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: could just you know, let some others know they're not alone, 864 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,839 Speaker 1: that was sort of where she wanted to come from. 865 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: All right, Well, Kevin, thank you so much for letting 866 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: us into your thoughts about your wife Seusan re airing. 867 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 1: We really appreciate you coming on and for all of 868 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,760 Speaker 1: our listeners, you can check out more of Kevin Manno 869 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 1: on Valentine in the Morning. If it's syndicated, right, you 870 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: can listen to it anywhere. Yeah, we're in a bunch 871 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 1: of different cities around the country, but also on the 872 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 1: I Heart radio app. As you guys know very well, 873 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 1: you can take us literally anywhere you go. That's right, 874 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,720 Speaker 1: that's right well. And also uh their daughter Molly uh 875 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 1: and uh son Riley are. We have a beautiful picture 876 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 1: in front of you right now, adorable on Instagram. Just 877 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 1: an amazing family. Will you can you go to Alan 878 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 1: Knight till we we're on her side. We're big fans, 879 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 1: we support her and no matter what happens, uh, we 880 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 1: will always love Ali on this podcast, I promise you 881 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 1: I will say that verbatim. Thank you both so much 882 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: for having me. Hey, thanks all right, by guys. I 883 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 1: really cannot wait till this Bachelor of season airs. Like 884 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm now like even more excited than before, and I 885 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 1: was already pumped to watch this season and see how 886 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 1: this all plays out. If this is true and Tasia 887 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 1: is now the Bachelor, I don't think they're going to 888 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,760 Speaker 1: be able to hide this very long. So I wonder 889 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 1: if we hear an official announcement this week. I almost 890 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 1: feel like they need to because it's too it's too weird, 891 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 1: it's too weird, it's too weird. And how in the 892 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 1: world would we be like all of a sudden when 893 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 1: this starts to air obviously, like the commercials are now clear, 894 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: and then Tassia just pops up out of nowhere like 895 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: you would have to announce it. If this is true, 896 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 1: we'll we'll stay up can be kept secret, No, we'll 897 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 1: stay up on the story. We'll get the details for you, 898 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,280 Speaker 1: um and in. We'll be back next week with another 899 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 1: episode of the almost famous podcast Ashley, You're great, Uh, 900 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,919 Speaker 1: talk to you soon with that I've Been Been, I've 901 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 1: Been Ashley. Later guys followed the Benn and Ashley I 902 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcasts on I Heart Radio or subscribe wherever 903 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:16,359 Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts.