Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're using the brown listering, you're a terrorist.
Speaker 1: You've done some evil shit, you know what I mean. No,
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, I'm with you. I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1: I've never thought about it, but now, Yes, Osama brown listering,
Speaker 1: Timothy McVeigh, Yes, Timothy McVeigh, brown listering. I think if
Speaker 1: we really wanted to test people's character, if we wanted
Speaker 1: to get into like some minority report ship and start
Speaker 1: predicting crimes ahead of time, all you have to do
Speaker 1: is wait, keep the list, keep a list of people
Speaker 1: doing brown. It's like Suda fat. You know, you gotta
Speaker 1: give him an idea. If you want sudof, have you
Speaker 1: to the idea you're getting brown listening. You gotta write
Speaker 1: down your basic You got all the information. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna rest you on spot, but you better believe
Speaker 1: the n s A is keeping tracking yours from now
Speaker 1: on because from chips in your hands, ask are racist?
Speaker 1: The host hosting money turn stuff? You can't tell me
Speaker 1: whoa there it is, there it is. Welcome, ladies and
Speaker 1: gentlemen to another spectacular, devastating episode of My Mama Told
Speaker 1: Me The Podcast When we Dive deep into the world
Speaker 1: of black conspiracy theories, and we worked to finally answer
Speaker 1: that question. Who the fuck is Herman Kine's ghost going
Speaker 1: to vote for? We need to know the answer to
Speaker 1: these questions. My gut is telling me Kanye. He seems
Speaker 1: like a Kanye man. That's the sense I'm getting. But
Speaker 1: we'll find out either way. We're happy that he's dead,
Speaker 1: and more importantly, we're happy to be here now. I'm
Speaker 1: your host. Links think Herman, I'm doing well. You're moving
Speaker 1: through this podcast and every week I listened to myself
Speaker 1: and I'm becoming more and more aware of my lisp,
Speaker 1: which I went to speech therapy class to get rid
Speaker 1: of as a child, and apparently it didn't work. Either
Speaker 1: that or my teeth or somehow rebelling against my tongue.
Speaker 1: Who knows. I'm not happy to hear it. But you
Speaker 1: know what I am happy about is my guest today.
Speaker 1: She's wonderful. She's hysterical, one of my favorite comedians. Do
Speaker 1: you know her from Two Dope Queens on HBO? You
Speaker 1: know her from her own podcast called Couples Therapy. She's hilarious.
Speaker 1: Give it up from my guests Naomi at Paragain, Hello,
Speaker 1: you gotta manufacture applause because we've been bested the pandemic.
Speaker 1: So just give me a little bit of that. I
Speaker 1: went door to door and got a bunch of people
Speaker 1: to clap individually and mushed it all together. Perfect, perfect,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Langston, you look well good to
Speaker 1: thank you over Zoom. After all this time, it has
Speaker 1: been a while we haven't. I think the last time
Speaker 1: we saw each other was was Zooming, probably a month ago.
Speaker 1: We did that. That's that benefit show that you hosted,
Speaker 1: and you were very funny. I hosted Henny blessed. I forgot.
Speaker 1: I forgot. I don't even know what you're referring to.
Speaker 1: You're not invested at all. I love that, and we're
Speaker 1: saving sick children and you are completely invested. I did
Speaker 1: my part. I did my part for the community, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm always I'm just always of service.
Speaker 1: So I don't even think about it anymore. I don't
Speaker 1: even know what I'm doing. I just show up, I
Speaker 1: suit up, and I show up. Okay, the sacrifice is constant.
Speaker 1: Therefore there's no reason to just sit in exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: That's just it. I get it. How How are we doing?
Speaker 1: How are you handling Henny? I take two melotonin gummies
Speaker 1: a night, sometimes a pepto bismal chaser. Okay, and I
Speaker 1: just you know, I told myself too. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use this type of quarantine. Oh, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: come out so skinny you don't even recognize me. I'm
Speaker 1: about to get staged in car girl went up, went
Speaker 1: up a size, and so, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: trying my best. I feel like everybody sort of had
Speaker 1: that same sense of things. But I do think the
Speaker 1: people that are coming out of this buff or or skinny,
Speaker 1: there's something wrong with you, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like you're going like, why are you thriving in the
Speaker 1: middle of everyone else in chaos? Okay? Do you know?
Speaker 1: I was talking to one of my friends, like one
Speaker 1: of my best friends. She's in New York and um
Speaker 1: we were talking and I was like, how you doing
Speaker 1: and she was like, I'm doing great. She was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't really like to be around people.
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm in the house, I'm reading my books.
Speaker 1: Her and her wife just got two cats. She is
Speaker 1: literally thriving in car. I was like, I'm gonna reach
Speaker 1: this phone and punch your ass. Okay, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna punch you in the throat because she was serious.
Speaker 1: She was not trying to be funny. She was just like,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling wonderful. This is the best gets for me.
Speaker 1: And how dare she exactly? You know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: how dare you enjoy yourself to that level? And even
Speaker 1: if you are shut the funk up about it, thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't tell it, you don't tell it,
Speaker 1: you go I'm fine, you say fine, you don't go
Speaker 1: to a funeral and brag about how cool your suit is.
Speaker 1: We all see it. We see the nice suit, focus
Speaker 1: on the dead man. It's true. It's true. It was
Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, it's out of control. But
Speaker 1: we've spoke, and it took some work. You you struggled
Speaker 1: through the assignment, but you came back to me with
Speaker 1: a wonderful I'm very happy for us to be digging
Speaker 1: into it. I feel like it's it's a conspiracy theory
Speaker 1: as old as times. It's a an antique, if you will,
Speaker 1: of conspiracy theories. But you told me, my mama told
Speaker 1: me white people don't get called. Yes, yes, I will
Speaker 1: say this right, the slid adjustment was. She told me.
Speaker 1: The fact was really, you know, white people like it cold.
Speaker 1: They like it cold. They love that cold in their boons,
Speaker 1: you know. And so whenever I was going to a
Speaker 1: Caucasian household, you know, I brought a sweater, I was
Speaker 1: told to bring a sweater, bring a layer. If I
Speaker 1: was doing a sleepover, you're taking the long pants, you
Speaker 1: know what the people. So it was a lot of
Speaker 1: like that. So this was like, this was actually coming
Speaker 1: from your mother. First of all, that your mother was
Speaker 1: was in fact telling you this, and all of this
Speaker 1: was just in preparation for dealing with the white man's
Speaker 1: world look like. And I take a premise very seriously
Speaker 1: if you told me the title of this podcast is
Speaker 1: my mama told me. I'm not gonna tell you something
Speaker 1: I heard on the street. I'm gonna tell you what
Speaker 1: my mama told me. How and honestly, how dare I
Speaker 1: ask you to break premise? You're You're an artist, and
Speaker 1: I appreciate that about you, but I love that, I
Speaker 1: love that you heard this from I'm an artist. I'm
Speaker 1: a professional. So now, as you know, I famously went
Speaker 1: to the Dolls in the school, a private school in
Speaker 1: New York City. You know, apparently we're Jeffrey Epstein taught hello,
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm gonna pause you there. That's how they
Speaker 1: get the go ahead. Tell me more So, I started
Speaker 1: dolls and in sixth grade, and that was like literally
Speaker 1: my intro to like being around white people. Because I
Speaker 1: grew up in Harlem. My dad's from Nigeria, my moms
Speaker 1: from Detroit. My world was black. Okay, it was several
Speaker 1: kinds of black, except for like exactly, I always say,
Speaker 1: it's like Spike Lee plus the Lion King. We were
Speaker 1: giving you both energies, okay, an African moment, a Detroit moment,
Speaker 1: and like, but obviously through pop culture, you know, I
Speaker 1: knew like white people. And I remember thinking when I
Speaker 1: was gonna start school there, I was like, I thought
Speaker 1: the white people would be nice, that's how they get you.
Speaker 1: And then that and I remember thinking white girls wash
Speaker 1: their hair every day because on TV shows, like more
Speaker 1: kids shows, like I remember saying by the Bell or
Speaker 1: something where like one of the characters like Kelly would
Speaker 1: be like, I'm washing my hair and that would be
Speaker 1: the reason why she would like not go somewhere that
Speaker 1: she would be able to go somewhere because she had
Speaker 1: to wash her hair then, right, So I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: they just wash their hair all the time. Those are
Speaker 1: the facts I went in with. And then my mother,
Speaker 1: you know, very much in advanced was like, okay, you're
Speaker 1: about to go to the school on Park Afnu, We're
Speaker 1: gonna have to just run through some basics, you know.
Speaker 1: And I was like, and like any time I would say,
Speaker 1: i'd be like, because it's freezing at school, she was like,
Speaker 1: because the white people like it. Come on now, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Well didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know this
Speaker 1: was on the starter, she I s, did you not
Speaker 1: read to the bottom there they're they're never chilly. They
Speaker 1: they enjoy the cold. And then I believe you said
Speaker 1: they love it. That's so fascinating. The hair part I
Speaker 1: had not heard. But I did personally also think that
Speaker 1: white people wash their hair all the time, because similarly,
Speaker 1: in watching television, they always left the bathroom drying off
Speaker 1: the air after a shower. I thought, you know, it's
Speaker 1: like always they're walking out the shower and they're like
Speaker 1: drying their hair before a phone call from the murderer.
Speaker 1: The girls always had like the towel turban where they're
Speaker 1: like what are you doing? You know, like gym class
Speaker 1: showers on to they'd be washing their hair and gym
Speaker 1: and ship and Black people would never do that. I'm
Speaker 1: not showing up with shampoos and rock conditioners for did
Speaker 1: people even take I mean again, you know, because I
Speaker 1: grew up in the city versus like suburbs, like were
Speaker 1: there actually do people actually take showers and gym? Uh? I?
Speaker 1: We did not take showers after gym class, but we
Speaker 1: did take showers after like basketball practice or like okay
Speaker 1: at school, you wouldn't just wait till you got home. Well,
Speaker 1: it was less of the practices and more of like
Speaker 1: sometimes we had to practice and we had a game
Speaker 1: and then we would just like be hanging out because
Speaker 1: we were trying to get girls to like us and ship.
Speaker 1: So you too, you took a shower because you were
Speaker 1: musty from rea early hours of running around with other
Speaker 1: musty people. I mean, the idea of practice and then
Speaker 1: the game seems too much, that seems overwhelming. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not active. You know, I'm not active. I'm famously inactive.
Speaker 1: I I think what it was was a bunch of
Speaker 1: grown men making up for their lost time through us,
Speaker 1: so like, we're gonna turn you boys into machines instead
Speaker 1: of being reasonable and being like, hey man, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure that I'm built for this. I'm actually probably going
Speaker 1: to run a comedy podcast. I'm probably just gonna be
Speaker 1: a silly Billies so you don't have to run me
Speaker 1: quite as much. But did they like assume you were sporty?
Speaker 1: Because I know when I started, so I'm about five eight.
Speaker 1: I was proudly five six as of age eleven, so
Speaker 1: I was like, so I was tall when I was
Speaker 1: younger than kind of stopped growing. But people were always like,
Speaker 1: you gotta play basketball, and so they kept trying to
Speaker 1: give me to play, and it was like, I don't
Speaker 1: like competitions. I don't like sweating in public. There was
Speaker 1: an eight team and a B team. I got on
Speaker 1: the B team and literally they were like, could you
Speaker 1: just like raise your hands and try to stop the ball?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? They're trying to shoot it.
Speaker 1: And that was because I was like, I'm not here,
Speaker 1: thought is like, why are you all so intense? Why
Speaker 1: am I needing to stop the ball. This person everything
Speaker 1: they wanted wanted he or she deserves the opportunity to
Speaker 1: put the ball in the basket. I feel that way.
Speaker 1: I'm very like I just was not. Yeah, like competition
Speaker 1: in that way never really kind of registered for me,
Speaker 1: or like the symbolism of like for the team, for
Speaker 1: the school. It's like, who cares? Does that remain? Now?
Speaker 1: Are you still I'm sure you're not doing sports, you're not.
Speaker 1: Thank you for understanding famously, but do you not have
Speaker 1: anything in your life that you're like competitive over or
Speaker 1: like a thing that you're like, Okay, sure, jealousy, but
Speaker 1: that's not the same. I am dreams and I wonder
Speaker 1: how other people have achieved them already so so much
Speaker 1: younger than me. But I don't have this yeah, like
Speaker 1: you know, the jealous right, We're like, I don't think
Speaker 1: other people, not most of the people, but I don't
Speaker 1: think most people like if they get something, I'm not
Speaker 1: like they shouldn't have it. I'm like, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to why the fun don't I also have exactly? It's
Speaker 1: not me being like except for every now and then,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're a TikTok star and didn't you
Speaker 1: comedy special, then I get stressed out. Let me be clear.
Speaker 1: I'm a hater, so I be wishing the worst on
Speaker 1: people that I get along with. Fine, it's not even
Speaker 1: like we have a bad relationship, but oh my soul
Speaker 1: ain't good. So i'd just be at home, have you always?
Speaker 1: Because I don't think of me that way. You know,
Speaker 1: you're such as you have such a sunny disposition. You're like,
Speaker 1: you know this like biracial Zach Morris, giving us that
Speaker 1: man about town energy, you know what I mean, giving
Speaker 1: us cold smile, giving us queen wife. You know, I mean,
Speaker 1: you guys are coming through evoking a Howard University energy
Speaker 1: into the room. Now, my wife is the energy that
Speaker 1: that we present. And I am an evil sort of
Speaker 1: like a guy twiddling his fingers at home. And she
Speaker 1: has to constantly be like, hey, man, maybe don't be
Speaker 1: this way. You don't get it, you don't get what
Speaker 1: I am. And then you know, I try to convince
Speaker 1: her to stay. That's pretty much the relationships. Well, that's good.
Speaker 1: She you know, she's staying. She wants to be there.
Speaker 1: She's staying. I don't know for how long, but apparently
Speaker 1: she's staying. Let me ask you this. Okay, we're talking
Speaker 1: about white people in cold uh were you put off
Speaker 1: in seeing their their behaviors and cold temperatures. Was this
Speaker 1: something that you were like, y'all are different than me,
Speaker 1: or was this just like, oh this is new Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought it was Psycho. I had a friend in college,
Speaker 1: I mean high school again also Dalton. He wore shorts
Speaker 1: every single day in New York City basketball shorts, okay,
Speaker 1: giving you a thin mesh moment in December, and I
Speaker 1: remember just being like, what the fund is wrong with you?
Speaker 1: Or like the kids who would they lived in the
Speaker 1: neighborhood so not far, they wouldn't wear a coat because
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, well, I'm just gonna walk tin
Speaker 1: blocks and it would just be like T shirt. And
Speaker 1: you know New York is like it starts getting cold
Speaker 1: in New York in October and it's pretty much cold
Speaker 1: until April, and so people, I was like, this is
Speaker 1: crazy to me. It was very very crazy to me.
Speaker 1: Did you ever ask like why are you doing this? Well?
Speaker 1: Are you not cold? And he'd be like, no, I'm
Speaker 1: not cold, And I was like, are we really that different?
Speaker 1: You know what? That's what made me think. I was like,
Speaker 1: how are you not called? Meanwhile, was somebody who you
Speaker 1: know New York winter, Honey, My mom taught me I
Speaker 1: was wearing tights under my jeans, you know, like another leg,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm literally freezing. Would keep them on
Speaker 1: all day, not even like change, And I know, just
Speaker 1: in case that cold get up under their I got
Speaker 1: another layer to protect me, a wall. And yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the fascinating part. I love. I love what you said
Speaker 1: about are we that different? Because it is. It's a
Speaker 1: scary revelation seeing the way the whites have handled the
Speaker 1: cold for so many years, Because we argue constantly that
Speaker 1: biologically we're not that different as a species, that like
Speaker 1: most of our arguments about race are purely built on
Speaker 1: like systems and hatred whatever. But then you get to
Speaker 1: fucking November and you see the white people are behaving outside,
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, maybe some of these eugenics claims
Speaker 1: are there's some some value there, And it's not that
Speaker 1: they're smarter than us, it's just that maybe their bodies
Speaker 1: are built differently. Are actually do they have duller receptors
Speaker 1: as a result of not being beaten sure for four
Speaker 1: hundreds of years, Perhaps the skin, perhaps the receptors just
Speaker 1: don't sense the chill that's fair. I have to assume
Speaker 1: tender meat freezes at a different temperature than hard meat.
Speaker 1: And they just got that hard meat that ain't been beating.
Speaker 1: It ain't tender and heed ain't been tenderized. It's a
Speaker 1: nice way of putting it. Okay. So so you're seeing
Speaker 1: these kids walk to school, You're seeing them behave sort
Speaker 1: of uh loosely freely and the terrified and and you're terrified.
Speaker 1: You're not really sure how to process this. Are are
Speaker 1: you then making choices to stay away from them? Is this?
Speaker 1: Is this putting you off? Do you know what I mean? Like?
Speaker 1: Is this I didn't have that choice, right like if
Speaker 1: they were the only people I could interact with. So
Speaker 1: it wasn't it wasn't that. It was just very um,
Speaker 1: it's just interesting, you know, when you're in a situation
Speaker 1: again as like the only black person I would have
Speaker 1: a few black people where you're like you almost feel
Speaker 1: a little crazy because there's not really anyone else you
Speaker 1: can talk to about it, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So like unless I go home and be like oh
Speaker 1: my god, but it's like too late, you know, to
Speaker 1: talk about how someone didn't wear a coat. That's not
Speaker 1: a good story. But at the moment, I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is wild, right, and like there's no one there to
Speaker 1: kind of say you're correct. You can't go back to
Speaker 1: your mom, like, Mom, I've got a good one today.
Speaker 1: They don't wear a coat, and she's like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's not a great You got to give
Speaker 1: him the hits, right, Okay, but you and this is
Speaker 1: interesting because you are married to or engage penny ten
Speaker 1: years strong. You can just call it common law at
Speaker 1: this point. You're common law with a white person, yes,
Speaker 1: who likes it warm? Can you imagine? I found someone
Speaker 1: It's funny though his andy in general, his like hands
Speaker 1: and feet will be cold. Like I remember the first
Speaker 1: time I held his hand and I was like, you're freezing, yes,
Speaker 1: and there it is. But he doesn't like to be cold.
Speaker 1: So he's like, yeah, I get cold really easy. He's
Speaker 1: like really into being toasty warm. I found the one.
Speaker 1: He likes black women. He likes being warm. This guy's
Speaker 1: breaking all the rules. Well he says it's because he's Jewish.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he's like he's like I really
Speaker 1: think he's like we're in a liminal space. I do
Speaker 1: think that there's probably some some truth to that. As
Speaker 1: a as a half Jew, I I often find that chosen,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I'm half chosen and the other rejected. One
Speaker 1: of one's chosen, the other one isn't doing is hot.
Speaker 1: But you know we're trying. So your dad is a Jew? Boo,
Speaker 1: My dad is a Jew. Boo. You should I should
Speaker 1: have known this. I should have known this years ago.
Speaker 1: He married black twice. So he did it twice. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: first first one better than the second. Not a fan
Speaker 1: of the second one, but that one, she's a nice lady.
Speaker 1: Where did he grow up that he, uh was so
Speaker 1: keen to take black lovers? It was a different time.
Speaker 1: That's why I say that it's a different time. No,
Speaker 1: it was a very different time. So my my father
Speaker 1: grew up in Cincinnati, Ohio, to a relatively rural area
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, Ohio. Uh that or at least suburban at
Speaker 1: you know, a mix of that. Weird, it's it's back
Speaker 1: when suburbs kind of had like acres. Yeah yeah, Um
Speaker 1: that said, he had no reason to behave the way
Speaker 1: he's behaved, you know what I mean, Like he didn't
Speaker 1: have to do this. Nobody was encouraging this. My grandparents
Speaker 1: weren't happy about it, but my boy, my boy made
Speaker 1: some choices and really stuck it out. That's amazing appreciated.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it's for the best, for the
Speaker 1: best because you book, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 1: that's the chosen part of you black. Sure. You know
Speaker 1: how much of Cheerios commercial loves a curly hair vaguely
Speaker 1: black person. Oh man, they love that to just put
Speaker 1: you in a commercial and they can't quite tell you
Speaker 1: got a Bruno Mars energy, except they don't want to
Speaker 1: see where you came from. Because you remember, there's a
Speaker 1: Cheerios commercial with the interracial couple and people got angry.
Speaker 1: Theerious they were. They couldn't believe that this, this clearly
Speaker 1: biracial child in fact, had two different race parents. They
Speaker 1: were so mad. It was so wild. But it's just
Speaker 1: like so interesting again. It kind of goes back sometimes
Speaker 1: like like symbolism to me um or expectations around concepts.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, what did you want Cheerios to
Speaker 1: do for you? Like attachment to what Cheerios is meant
Speaker 1: to represent? Yeah, like you know what I mean, How
Speaker 1: how invested are you in capitalism. That that the way
Speaker 1: they sell it to you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Just you just want cheerios? Do you like the ship
Speaker 1: or you don't exactly, you don't need them to sell
Speaker 1: it to you in the exact way that Like, it's
Speaker 1: like being angry at the magic Trick for not doing
Speaker 1: it the way you would have done it. It's like, bitch,
Speaker 1: the dove came out. Just enjoy that came out. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's weird. It's weird, but okay, So Andy likes it
Speaker 1: or warm, Yes, he likes to be warm. We're on
Speaker 1: the same temperature page, which I think is crucial to
Speaker 1: any relationship lasting. Yeah, I believe that. I think if
Speaker 1: you were not on the same temperature page with your partner,
Speaker 1: it's going to cause problems. I do think that that's
Speaker 1: very true. My wife and I similarly. I get very cold,
Speaker 1: very easily. But I also prefer it colder in the
Speaker 1: house because I think that like you sleep better when
Speaker 1: you're like naked and afraid kind of energy, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like just that cold outside and you're
Speaker 1: you're tucked in and yet move that's a good See.
Speaker 1: I hate that because like that feeling when as soon
Speaker 1: as you move, you like hit a cold spot in
Speaker 1: the bed, you know what I mean. And then like
Speaker 1: I feel it like it wakes me up. I'm like
Speaker 1: very warm all the time. That's like part of why
Speaker 1: I don't like l a. I sweat like Whitney r
Speaker 1: I p like naturally, like I'm very much like ten
Speaker 1: seconds outside beat it upper lip. Okay, that's how I
Speaker 1: am in the world. To be clear, Whitney sweat wasn't natural.
Speaker 1: That was that was a kind of sweat. I'm aware,
Speaker 1: but I shared her affliction without her addiction. Sure it is,
Speaker 1: there is um but at the same time, I feel
Speaker 1: like I have such a narrow window of comfort, like
Speaker 1: I don't want to be cold with Like to me,
Speaker 1: the best temp is like seventy three. Oh oh you're one.
Speaker 1: Oh that's hot. What for me? We're at sixty nine
Speaker 1: And not just because we're nasty, but also because that's
Speaker 1: the preferred temperature temp. That's the temp I like to
Speaker 1: be warm. And then like I'm in my house, I'm
Speaker 1: in a short a t a little flip flop, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I like to be Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, I've got to be I've got
Speaker 1: to be toasty, I like a breeze. But then also
Speaker 1: I don't know, I wake up like in a cold
Speaker 1: sweat every boarding, so that could be another issue. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that that is related at all. That
Speaker 1: feels like trauma. Maybe I don't know that that trauma
Speaker 1: has anything to do with the temperature. You probably be
Speaker 1: sweating through that either way. Okay, so you guys have
Speaker 1: a share temperature, you're comfortable. This is something that I
Speaker 1: do genuinely before we go to commercial, and this is
Speaker 1: very important for me to understand. Do you think that
Speaker 1: when people were saying they weren't cold that they meant it?
Speaker 1: I absolutely do. I absolutely do they, Henny, I think
Speaker 1: they were just walking so care free. You know how
Speaker 1: when it's actually physically cold, you tend to kind of
Speaker 1: tighten your body up if it's sort of you know,
Speaker 1: put your head down, And it was like a summer
Speaker 1: day for them, just walking leisurely, head to the sun.
Speaker 1: And that's how I was like, oh, you, this is
Speaker 1: not a game. And like also to wear shorts every day,
Speaker 1: you know, and then just be like yeah, this is fine. Right, Well,
Speaker 1: that's my fear is like I and part of The
Speaker 1: reason I asked, I guess is because I do know
Speaker 1: that as a high school kid, there were things I
Speaker 1: did that I just made. It was my thing, right right,
Speaker 1: So you what you don't want to be is like, well,
Speaker 1: I wore shorts last winter, so now I'm the shorts
Speaker 1: kid in the wintertime. Kind of like we had this
Speaker 1: this dude, Coach Hopkins, he's dead r I p Coach Hopkins,
Speaker 1: Witney and Witness, both of them. I hope they're hanging
Speaker 1: out together. But and Herman Kine. I hope Herman Caine,
Speaker 1: Whitney and Coach Hopkins are all having drinks together in heaven.
Speaker 1: That said, Coach Hopkins used to wear shorts every single
Speaker 1: day in Chicago in the winter time, and we would
Speaker 1: be like, hop why are you why He's like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: I got diabetes. I can't feel nothing in my legs,
Speaker 1: and so like that that made sense where I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's a very clear explanation. But also the shorts just
Speaker 1: became your brand, so you're you're mixing these two things.
Speaker 1: But when you're a kid, there's no explanation and it
Speaker 1: just is branding is like I'm the mess shorts kid,
Speaker 1: and everybody like I guess so, Dylan, Yeah, it's what
Speaker 1: the world. You believe them fully, fully fully like those
Speaker 1: that was comfort. That was comfort, It wasn't fashion, and
Speaker 1: it was just I'm haunted by it. It's haunting me.
Speaker 1: I'm also the kind of person who though, like I'm
Speaker 1: the kind of person who's like, I'm cold, put on
Speaker 1: a coat. Like when I see somebody like not dressed, right,
Speaker 1: I get very like maternal energy of like, are you okay?
Speaker 1: Do you want sweater? Like I don't, like, Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: get you inside with some Campbell soup. Baby, this is
Speaker 1: this is out of hand exactly. We're gonna take a
Speaker 1: and we'll be back with more Naomi and more, my
Speaker 1: mama told me. And we are back. Yeah, we're back
Speaker 1: here with more Naomi Barragan more. My mama told me.
Speaker 1: We're still talking about these chilly ass white people cold
Speaker 1: to their bones, as it was once presented to Naomi
Speaker 1: from my mom. Did your mom not? Nope? You said
Speaker 1: she's from Detroit? Was she from like a black Detroit?
Speaker 1: Because then she went to University of Michigan. Oh did
Speaker 1: you yes? That was her? Like intro I think too
Speaker 1: white folks, and that's what she was saying, because she
Speaker 1: was like they She's like people just walk across campus
Speaker 1: in in harbor with like nothing on or you know,
Speaker 1: very little. So that was I think what started her
Speaker 1: on that. And she was like, I will carry this
Speaker 1: lesson for my child one day, have to carry to
Speaker 1: her all whites all right. I did a bunch of
Speaker 1: research on this subject that I want to run past you,
Speaker 1: and you see, if any of this sort of clicks
Speaker 1: with you, feel free to jump in at any point,
Speaker 1: and certainly feel free to correct any of this that
Speaker 1: doesn't sit right you. Having a white partner might be
Speaker 1: more knowledgeable about some of those subjects and even the
Speaker 1: Google searches that I do. But what I started with,
Speaker 1: and this is probably problematic, I started my research by
Speaker 1: looking up are white people cold blooded? That's what I
Speaker 1: went with for the beginning, because I wasn't sure how
Speaker 1: to phrase this, and apparently they're not. Apparently that's only
Speaker 1: lizards and uh fish, I think, but they're not cold blooded.
Speaker 1: But a study did show that the average human temperature
Speaker 1: for men and women is around like thirty six point
Speaker 1: eight six degrees celsius plus or minus point to three.
Speaker 1: Why are you bringing me celsius. Hey, they put it
Speaker 1: in celsius and I didn't have the effort in me
Speaker 1: to go fix it. Goddamn it, I don't know what
Speaker 1: thirty six point eight degrees celsius. I feel like it's
Speaker 1: what are we like? Ninety eight point six? Isn't that
Speaker 1: the commercials used to say? Do you remember those commercials?
Speaker 1: I don't remember listening talking about your body temperature? Okay,
Speaker 1: this is what they said. They say, the average human
Speaker 1: mouth is ninety eight point six degrees and then they
Speaker 1: will put some listerine in there and they'd be like,
Speaker 1: now it's cool as fuckin Okay, so the average temperature
Speaker 1: around thirty six point eight six degrees celsius. I'm so sorry,
Speaker 1: But this is what's interesting is that the study was
Speaker 1: originally done because they were trying to see if men
Speaker 1: and women differed in terms of like their temperatures, and
Speaker 1: white men and white women generally do not differ significantly. However,
Speaker 1: there was a big difference between black and white women,
Speaker 1: black women having point one three degrees celsius higher temperatures
Speaker 1: on average than white women. Well, that feels like it
Speaker 1: makes sense, you know what I mean? Karen's are cold?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean when you said the cold blood,
Speaker 1: and I said absolutely. I wonder if it's just the
Speaker 1: Nordic roots, right, is it? The Nordic roots. They come
Speaker 1: from the cold climate originally, so of course they're just
Speaker 1: naturally prepared, you know for the ice age. Yes, that like, okay,
Speaker 1: you grew up in this even ancestral ancestral ancestrally, so
Speaker 1: that's always in you. I mean you can also just tell,
Speaker 1: like by the fact that like I remember when I
Speaker 1: was little, little like elementary school, I remember saying, like,
Speaker 1: how could white people be the master race when they
Speaker 1: turn colors in the sun? And it's because you know
Speaker 1: how when you see, like, um, a white person who
Speaker 1: does you know, live in a hot climate, they become
Speaker 1: just red and leathery, and the skin can't cope. The
Speaker 1: skin can't cope, which leads me to believe it's not
Speaker 1: meant to be sure, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: you're not You're not built for that sudden to be beating.
Speaker 1: This was never yours you. You were meant to be
Speaker 1: in a high mountain where where the air is thin
Speaker 1: and the wind is chill. You mean, like just this
Speaker 1: is the opposite of the place that you're supposed to be.
Speaker 1: And it's only because of colonization that you even brought
Speaker 1: yourself down here in the first place. Exactly exactly do
Speaker 1: you belong in a fiord? You know what a fiord like,
Speaker 1: one of those Swedish Norwegian just watery areas that specific
Speaker 1: cold Ikea desk of some kind. Well, they also belong
Speaker 1: in an Ikea desk. Sure you belong in a in
Speaker 1: a watery field with an Ikea desk in front of you.
Speaker 1: Just stay the funk out of Africa. That's not yours. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up though, because historically, right
Speaker 1: when we're sort of looking at the biological transitions of
Speaker 1: where whiteness comes from, apparently humans started off with pretty
Speaker 1: like neutral skin tones, much like myself. That we were
Speaker 1: because we we were sort of born from apes. If
Speaker 1: you want to have that argument, I'm happy to do it.
Speaker 1: But because we're born from apes, we were Jesus made
Speaker 1: me what you talk about. God put me down here.
Speaker 1: You put me down here two thousand years ago. There
Speaker 1: was nothing before that. There's nothing else to talk about.
Speaker 1: Uh So, apparently because we're born from chimps, we basically
Speaker 1: had these neutral skin tones and fewer sweat glands. And
Speaker 1: then as a part of evolution, melanin was introduced because
Speaker 1: we started shedding the hair, right, so we're losing the
Speaker 1: body hair, which means our skin is now more exposed
Speaker 1: to sunlight, which means we need melanin to be able
Speaker 1: to reject the sun from the ship out of us
Speaker 1: exactly right. So then people start traveling, they're going in
Speaker 1: different directions, and basically a bunch of white people essentially
Speaker 1: evolved because, uh they their skin now needed a way
Speaker 1: to quickly absorb vitamin D and folate, and so you
Speaker 1: go to these other places where sun is less prominent,
Speaker 1: and because black skin rejects the sun, you know, white
Speaker 1: skin absorbs all of it, kind of thing needed a
Speaker 1: way to absorb it quickly, which, to your point, is
Speaker 1: why they burned so easily. Uh In, they can't take it.
Speaker 1: But if you think about so many of the places,
Speaker 1: it's not simply right, like when you think about Russia, Alaska,
Speaker 1: like any any of those places where like it's all
Speaker 1: so dark half the year, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And so it's also like they only get a couple
Speaker 1: hours of sun, so they really gotta take it because
Speaker 1: it's not like the sun is out for more than
Speaker 1: four hours. I went to Sweden once and we went
Speaker 1: and it was probably end of April, and that's like
Speaker 1: when it was sunny and like the sun didn't go
Speaker 1: down until about three a m. And then came and
Speaker 1: then came back up again at seven and like it
Speaker 1: wasn't it was still um cold, but it was sunny.
Speaker 1: People were out like they were losing a fucking mind.
Speaker 1: Just t shirt because they're like the sun, like they
Speaker 1: were just must absorb. I need this power. There's no
Speaker 1: telling when it will be back. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: give me my park. I'm like I still need a puffy.
Speaker 1: I still need a puffy. But they were living because
Speaker 1: I'm like from where they're from, and that's like when
Speaker 1: I get it right, Like it felt like a very
Speaker 1: foreign land. And I was like, you know what you
Speaker 1: get like sun for three months out the year. Yes,
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. And there did more importantly,
Speaker 1: I respected you stayed where you belonged, or white skin
Speaker 1: belonged in this white climate. A white skin functions best,
Speaker 1: and you celebrate when that thirty four degree sun themes
Speaker 1: down on you and you're like, yeah, this is great,
Speaker 1: and it's perfect for the flesh that I was provided
Speaker 1: by my ancestors. Do you also think it has something
Speaker 1: to do with the ability to hide from predators? If
Speaker 1: you are Alabaster and you're living in a land full
Speaker 1: of snow, is that part of it? Is that part
Speaker 1: of it that you can just kind of blend into
Speaker 1: the snowstorm? I have to assume that it was part
Speaker 1: of it. I mean, we are the color of the
Speaker 1: sand and the you know, the dirt, and think that
Speaker 1: we dirt feels sure. I can lean up against the pyramid,
Speaker 1: you won't see me anymore. That was the plan. These
Speaker 1: stripes on my body already. I'm built to be next
Speaker 1: to a pyramid. So how many? How many have you
Speaker 1: already getting hate mail yet yelling about how we're dividing
Speaker 1: the world. I pray to God that we do. I
Speaker 1: was saying it to Nikki the other day that nothing
Speaker 1: would make me happier than Fox News picking this up
Speaker 1: and just just having a field day with everything that
Speaker 1: we're suggesting that white people are somehow built for snow
Speaker 1: so they can hide from leopards. Oh, that's that would
Speaker 1: be spectacular. If they get furious about this good fingers crusted.
Speaker 1: So one of the things that that happens, uh. And
Speaker 1: one of the things that they talk about in particular
Speaker 1: with like this dealing with the cold for white people
Speaker 1: and for black people as well. One of the things
Speaker 1: that they said is that there aren't that many biological
Speaker 1: differences between white and black people, but in terms of
Speaker 1: the way we handle temperature and climate, it has way
Speaker 1: more to do with acclimating than it does with biology. Okay,
Speaker 1: meaning if you are if you are sitting there thinking
Speaker 1: that you are a cold person, a person that can
Speaker 1: handle the cold, then you're probably more capable of handling
Speaker 1: it somebody who is being taught that, like you're a
Speaker 1: warm person, you need to be in a warm climb. Huh. Interesting,
Speaker 1: So you think it's some sort of an assertion of
Speaker 1: white power to be in the cold? Okay, now we're talking.
Speaker 1: Now you've got you've got my ear, because I do
Speaker 1: think that some of this has been weaponized, right that,
Speaker 1: Like if you tell a bunch of people that they
Speaker 1: are warm climate people, even though Africa is a very diverse,
Speaker 1: uh continent with lots of different types of environments, fucking
Speaker 1: you know, there's all kinds of people that live in
Speaker 1: all kinds of ways and this giant piece of land.
Speaker 1: If you tell everybody they're warm and they need to
Speaker 1: be in warmth, and then take them away from that
Speaker 1: warmth and keep them in these cold places, they're naturally
Speaker 1: going to start to question, you know, if they can
Speaker 1: handle it, if they're frantically capable. Well, it's such also
Speaker 1: a marker of um, you don't belong here, Like do
Speaker 1: you notice I can't think of a specific movie, but
Speaker 1: do you know that trope for instance of like the
Speaker 1: white explorer who goes to some jungle land, go somewhere
Speaker 1: for it, and then he's always like sweating and like
Speaker 1: dabbing himself with a rag, like he can't take it.
Speaker 1: He doesn't belong in the savage land. And I think
Speaker 1: it's like the same thing if you're if you're telling people,
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna bring you someplace that is so
Speaker 1: different however, but here. But here's the thing though, I
Speaker 1: think about it. When they brought people are from Africa,
Speaker 1: they started with the south. They started bringing them someplace,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like and that's also where
Speaker 1: you still have Well you could argue that's acclamation, right,
Speaker 1: that's how you get them from. Okay, we took you
Speaker 1: from a warm climate, so we'll bring you to a
Speaker 1: warm climate where your body started. We'll get you started.
Speaker 1: But then if you want to gape from us, you'll
Speaker 1: freeze to right right, literally run away from the environment
Speaker 1: we brought you into. Your body is not built for
Speaker 1: handling it. Well. Also not just that your body is
Speaker 1: not over anything. We haven't given you the tools to
Speaker 1: handle it. Because if you're out there, honey, if you
Speaker 1: in the South, you out picking cottony your barefoot with
Speaker 1: a tunic, right, and then if you want to go north,
Speaker 1: it's like, we gotta get you some ugs. We gotta
Speaker 1: get you unknitted cap. You don't have it. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: didn't send you off with that nick cap. You had
Speaker 1: to know how to knit that yourself. And you had
Speaker 1: to have been educated enough and sort of savvy enough
Speaker 1: to know that you were going to need to encounter
Speaker 1: nit cap weather. Did you think Harriet Tubbs had had
Speaker 1: a stash of cap? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like part of the railroad. She was like, all right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna stop over here and get you on our
Speaker 1: way to the Montreal Jazz Festival. We're gonna stop and
Speaker 1: get you some some shoes. Hold on, before we keep going,
Speaker 1: we gotta hit this hat story real quick. You guys
Speaker 1: are gonna be weirded out by this, But your ears
Speaker 1: are gonna get cold. That's something that you you haven't
Speaker 1: prepared for. I know you haven't been up here, Joseph,
Speaker 1: but I swear to God, your ears get cold after
Speaker 1: we walk a few more hundred feet. It's true. Even
Speaker 1: though the underground freezing, you're freezing. You gotta get your cats.
Speaker 1: So I started researching specifically how many people freeze to
Speaker 1: death every year, assuming that that most people that freeze
Speaker 1: to death we're going to be like white hikers and
Speaker 1: like Siberian prisoners. I thought it would be a lot
Speaker 1: of like that. But it turns out that actually about
Speaker 1: thirteen hundred and thirty people die every year from cold
Speaker 1: exposure death in the US. Yeah. But here's what surprised
Speaker 1: me is that a lot of it is actually coming
Speaker 1: from cities. That it's it's a fair amount of it.
Speaker 1: Most of it is from like rural areas, but a
Speaker 1: big portion of its coming from city East of the
Speaker 1: people that are freezing are outside when it happens, are
Speaker 1: in their homes or in an enclosed area when they
Speaker 1: freeze today, oh my god, because they don't have heat,
Speaker 1: because America is the third world country. There we go. Now,
Speaker 1: oh come on, now, now you're talking that talk, because
Speaker 1: I think what we're seeing is is like a very
Speaker 1: back to your point about this being a tool of
Speaker 1: white supremacy, right, is we're seeing actual evidence that white
Speaker 1: people are at least through their own acclamation, more capable
Speaker 1: of handling the cold. And then they're freezing a bunch
Speaker 1: of brown and black people and pour people out, putting
Speaker 1: them in environments where they can't. It's in the Northeast
Speaker 1: and the Midwest where it gets fucking freezing every you know, September,
Speaker 1: and then you're just like letting them die. Well, it's
Speaker 1: also because you know, legally, at least in New York,
Speaker 1: which is what I know, legally, your land lord does
Speaker 1: not have to turn on heat. I believe until November one.
Speaker 1: It might actually be it could be October one, but
Speaker 1: one of those I think it's November is legally when
Speaker 1: they have to turn on the heat. This is what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, first of all, you got a goddamn
Speaker 1: turkey on the table, and you ain't got no here.
Speaker 1: That don't make no sense. That's not right, it's not right.
Speaker 1: And you are New Yorker me a person from Chicago.
Speaker 1: We both know that November is too late. It's already froze,
Speaker 1: it's already snapped. It's already snapped. It's snapped. If Halloween
Speaker 1: at the latest, do you know what I mean? At
Speaker 1: the very latest? But usually like top of I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, now we've got some good global warming, but hetty,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you'd be freezing or also like you
Speaker 1: don't even need a lot, like it's not like, oh,
Speaker 1: winter has started. All you need is like a week
Speaker 1: of cold temperatures today, Like it doesn't take long. So yeah,
Speaker 1: And and here's the crazier part. November is when they
Speaker 1: start right and they legally have to keep your heat on.
Speaker 1: March is when they have no longer legally have to
Speaker 1: keep your heat on in fucking March. In Chicago, maybe
Speaker 1: our coldest man like forty degrees right, like it forties,
Speaker 1: it's fucking twenties. Sometimes in March, we we don't break
Speaker 1: winter until July four. That is our measurement. I don't
Speaker 1: celebrate the holiday that's the break of winter in the
Speaker 1: city I'm from. And so you know, you're in theory
Speaker 1: creating parameters to say we are being humane, we're treating
Speaker 1: people with like decency, But the reality is you're freezing
Speaker 1: them to death, exactly because who owns the properties? You
Speaker 1: know exactly well exactly. I don't need to say it
Speaker 1: it was no. I don't know if it is no,
Speaker 1: but I'll say it right now, White people, you own
Speaker 1: the stuff, and you're freezing us to it, and I
Speaker 1: think it's on purpose. Here's where it gets even crazier
Speaker 1: is I started looking up because you know, obviously exactly
Speaker 1: what you're saying about, like the idea that you know
Speaker 1: you could be frozen in your own home because the
Speaker 1: heat isn't turned on. But then I started looking up evictions. Right,
Speaker 1: how how legal is it to evict someone in the
Speaker 1: middle of the winter. Apparently it's totally legal that like,
Speaker 1: as long as you give them the notice, the proper notification,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what time of year it is, in
Speaker 1: any kind of cold. So now we are people being
Speaker 1: frozen in their homes. They're then being sent out into
Speaker 1: the streets to presumably freeze in much more dastardly terrible ways.
Speaker 1: I know, I know it's interesting because, like, you know,
Speaker 1: what you're saying to one of those conditions under which
Speaker 1: people freeze, and you assumed it would be like the
Speaker 1: Siberian prison and stuff. Actually, here's what I think a
Speaker 1: lot of it is in the US. It is drunk
Speaker 1: people passing out outside. Yes, that is what it is.
Speaker 1: It is like people who were walking from the bar
Speaker 1: in winter. You know, people who think like a little
Speaker 1: booze will warm me up, just you know, and then
Speaker 1: they like walk and they go and they you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. They can fall, slip, they can hit
Speaker 1: their head, whatever happens. But it's like sucking twenty degrees
Speaker 1: and then overnight they freeze. They're frozen, and so that's it.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you said that because that brings me
Speaker 1: to another part of the research, because the thing that
Speaker 1: they talk about is freezing to death actually isn't even
Speaker 1: as common as it seems like it would be. What
Speaker 1: is common is something called cold exposure. Dying from cold exposure,
Speaker 1: injuries based on cold exposure, which is exactly what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. I get super fucked up. I go out,
Speaker 1: I don't feel the cold quite as much as I
Speaker 1: would have, and then I get frostbite or I get
Speaker 1: a more dramatic injury hit my head, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: so I don't eye on the spot from that, I
Speaker 1: die from the other condition that was involved in this.
Speaker 1: And so they say people with like uh, with blood
Speaker 1: pressure issues or people with pre existing conditions often are
Speaker 1: going to the hospital for what is ultimately them freezing
Speaker 1: to death, but it's not being identified that way. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is shutting down. But it wasn't shutting down just
Speaker 1: because your body was shitty. It's shutting down because you
Speaker 1: were exposed to these extreme temperatures that your body couldn't handle,
Speaker 1: and now all your organs are like fuck it, I'm out.
Speaker 1: I know I developed asthma when I was twenty six,
Speaker 1: did not have it as a kid, have it now
Speaker 1: and what it's what I learned and I'm I still
Speaker 1: learned the different things that kind of will trigger me.
Speaker 1: And one of the things that will all will give
Speaker 1: me an asthma attack is usually going from hot to cold,
Speaker 1: cold to hot, and I mean like literally like to
Speaker 1: go from you know, in your warmhouse out in winter
Speaker 1: if it's if it's really cold like that, like windy
Speaker 1: and stuff. My whole chest tightens up and it's like
Speaker 1: a literally like an instant thing, and it's just like
Speaker 1: a my body is just reacting to the fact that
Speaker 1: it's freezing and it just like tightens and then it's
Speaker 1: like okay, well, okay, we're gonna wait this out. We're
Speaker 1: gonna see what we can do about it, or like
Speaker 1: get into you know, kind of like I was going
Speaker 1: to say that walk to the subway from my train,
Speaker 1: and then like kind of if I get on the train,
Speaker 1: I can kind of regulate. Again. You hit your pump,
Speaker 1: you you gather yourself. You're fine too. And to your point,
Speaker 1: thank god, you have the resources to know to walk
Speaker 1: to the train, to be able to pay for the
Speaker 1: money to get on the train, to get yourself to
Speaker 1: a warm place, when a lot of people in fact
Speaker 1: are not equipped with these resources, are coming from an
Speaker 1: already cold environment, the colder one just suffering from asthma
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, and then just sort of having
Speaker 1: to to die because of you know, these circumstances. So ultimately,
Speaker 1: and this is the scariest part of all of it.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry that this uh stopped being funny and
Speaker 1: turned into us just criminalizing and that's the comedic journey. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is net and I love it. We need to
Speaker 1: do it sometimes. So the even more terrifying part of
Speaker 1: this is that Army data that was sort of collected
Speaker 1: because there's not a lot of data on this ship
Speaker 1: because white people don't want to do this research. But
Speaker 1: army data suggests that black people are two point two
Speaker 1: to four times more likely to experience cold based injuries,
Speaker 1: really four times more likely wild. So, in essence, if
Speaker 1: I could summarize everything that we've sort of gathered here,
Speaker 1: and you made the point before I even got to it,
Speaker 1: is that white people created a system that allows for
Speaker 1: us to freeze to death intention now. Wow, wow, wow, wow,
Speaker 1: this podcast is huge. This podcast is huge. Dismantling Okay, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm dismantling. I think I just
Speaker 1: blame white people for stuff every week. They must, you must,
Speaker 1: you must keep them accountable, especially during the Caucasian Awakening.
Speaker 1: That's what I call this time. Now then, because suddenly
Speaker 1: they were all at home and could watch the George
Speaker 1: Floyd video over like what they've just they've woken up?
Speaker 1: Well that was I think that was the weird part
Speaker 1: about all of it before was like they could have
Speaker 1: watched a million George Floyd's before this, But like you said,
Speaker 1: they weren't at home. They were busy. They were out
Speaker 1: on the town themselves, and now everybody's just at home.
Speaker 1: It was like, hey, if y'all seen this video, apparently
Speaker 1: this has been happening the whole time, the whole time.
Speaker 1: We gotta get out there, We gotta get out there.
Speaker 1: I don't have to be at work. Why don't we
Speaker 1: just go out and protest? Brunches clothes, I might as
Speaker 1: well protest. Hello. All right, we're gonna take another break
Speaker 1: and then we'll be back with more Naomi and more,
Speaker 1: my mama told me, and we are back anywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're back. We're back here with more naomiic bar again.
Speaker 1: More my mama told me. We're still talking about you evil,
Speaker 1: evil white people and how you've been planning to freeze
Speaker 1: black people to death as a form of supremacy. We
Speaker 1: figured it all out. We got you, We got you.
Speaker 1: You're caught, your dirty scoundrels, You're caught. Okay, I want
Speaker 1: to play a game. This is a fun game that
Speaker 1: I like to call white lies. Yeah, that is amazing.
Speaker 1: Did you know, Andy, Actually we watch Friends on Netflix.
Speaker 1: We rewatch should I had never seen it from the beginning,
Speaker 1: and we started keeping a um, a visual what would
Speaker 1: you call it, a visual journal, I guess of every
Speaker 1: black person that appears on Friends inter acts. Though, Okay,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you're just like a background. You have
Speaker 1: to actually have lines. You have to engage with the
Speaker 1: friends in some way. Yeah, um, and it was Aunt
Speaker 1: Viv was on it, and yeah Dark ant Viv Dark
Speaker 1: and yes, and then um, Sherry Shepard worked with Ross.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously I used to Tyler Gabrielle Union. I
Speaker 1: didn't know Gabrielle Union was on there. Gabrie. You thing,
Speaker 1: if you got to interact with a friend, your career
Speaker 1: took off, all right, your career took off. If you
Speaker 1: interacted and really got some screen time, that was it
Speaker 1: for you. That was that that little Friends bump that
Speaker 1: you needed to become a new Hollywood star. That's what
Speaker 1: you needed. Wow, Okay, this is a good question. And
Speaker 1: for you, how did you feel watching Friends? Because I personally,
Speaker 1: and I'll just say this before you even tell me,
Speaker 1: I personally despised the show. Yeah, I really didn't I
Speaker 1: really didn't like the show. I thought that um at
Speaker 1: the times. I remember when it first came out, like
Speaker 1: it was very popular in school and everyone would talk
Speaker 1: about it. So I like started to kind of watch
Speaker 1: it towards the end because I was like, I kind
Speaker 1: of want to know what's happening. But I will say
Speaker 1: it actually also got worse and harder the older they got.
Speaker 1: Like there was some of the first couple of seasons
Speaker 1: where you're like, Okay, we're having fun, and then it
Speaker 1: gets to a point where it's like you fucking grown,
Speaker 1: Like Chandler has a real job. Why the hell he
Speaker 1: living with a roommate? And why asked apartment? Why are
Speaker 1: y'all thirty five? And still like doing this? Yes, get
Speaker 1: it together, it's aspire for more. And also like Ross,
Speaker 1: you have a child, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: there were just some times I just felt like, you're
Speaker 1: a father, get it together. Yeah, this friendship should not
Speaker 1: mean this much to you. Maybe fatherhood is the better.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah. And then also Rachel, Okay, honey, she's
Speaker 1: all about weaponizing those white tears. She was just like
Speaker 1: a white woman who would Jennifer Anderson. She would just cry.
Speaker 1: Rachel would just cry and it was always just like
Speaker 1: my God, like Monica such a Karen So type needed
Speaker 1: stuff her way running the show. I was like, the
Speaker 1: only one I can kind of get with sometimes is Phoebe.
Speaker 1: But then she became too dumb, like again the way
Speaker 1: she was like hippie initially, she then became like a
Speaker 1: total ditch and it was just like, okay. So that
Speaker 1: was my long answer, because obviously when you watch the
Speaker 1: whole season back to back, you have thoughts. Sure, I
Speaker 1: will say that I appreciate your answer in that I
Speaker 1: watched the pilot and I was like, nope, and the
Speaker 1: never I never invested again. I was like, this ship
Speaker 1: ain't for me, some goofy white ship that like I
Speaker 1: and I like goofy white ship. I listen, I am
Speaker 1: of goofy white above that this one was mes bless this.
Speaker 1: I love it. Let's have a great time making blesses mess.
Speaker 1: But it's a type of goofy white that I'm just like,
Speaker 1: this is harmless whatever. When you create a New York
Speaker 1: city that's entirely white, that has no yeah, like that's
Speaker 1: in the city as well. Remember that, except for Blair,
Speaker 1: Underwood showed up for a hot minute. Yeah, and what
Speaker 1: a timeless sexy man who deserves better than to be
Speaker 1: uh belittled. I know, sex in the city, can you believe? Sick? Sick.
Speaker 1: But it's also like he's the black guy that they
Speaker 1: all knew, do you know what I mean? Like from
Speaker 1: l a Law Like they were like, it's Blair Underwood
Speaker 1: around ladies, they're more, well, we simply must have Blair Underwood,
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, you can have somebody else that
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be Blair Underwood. Get little Boosey and
Speaker 1: sex in this exactly what happened when a little Boosey
Speaker 1: and what's her name Charlotte have to have that shares
Speaker 1: together and little Boozy is like, show me a pussy
Speaker 1: for and then all right, I'll know how to do
Speaker 1: this thing. That's a good show. Alright, white lies, this
Speaker 1: is the game. I am going to present to you
Speaker 1: a very celebrated or at least highly believed conspiracy theory
Speaker 1: in the white community. I would like for you to
Speaker 1: take a second to unpack exactly why this conspiracy theory
Speaker 1: is so widely supported by white people. Why does this
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory mean so much to them? What are the
Speaker 1: sneaky motherfucker's up to Yes, I'm ready, hell yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1: So apparently at Mount Rushmore, which has been in the
Speaker 1: news quite a bit late lately because our our fantastic
Speaker 1: leader is going to get his face up there and
Speaker 1: we're all super excited about it. Rushmore has been in
Speaker 1: the news and apparently behind Lincoln's head there's an eighteen
Speaker 1: foot chamber a compartment, uh that the builder, who was
Speaker 1: a white supremacist, that's worth noting, built for keeping stuff
Speaker 1: behind Lincoln said they have been using that chamber for
Speaker 1: keeping apparently secret documents, and white people for years have
Speaker 1: speculated about what those secret documents are. They claim that
Speaker 1: they're like secrets of the government knowing about terrorists attacks
Speaker 1: before they happen, in all these like just maniacal, evil
Speaker 1: details that they're hiding from the American public. That being said,
Speaker 1: why do you think white people are so obsessed with
Speaker 1: the chamber hidden in Mount Rushmore? Wow? Wow wow wow?
Speaker 1: That is uh that is so I've never heard that before.
Speaker 1: So I'm so surprised by this. Um. Why are they
Speaker 1: obsessed to the chamber inside about rich boor um? Because
Speaker 1: they love themselves so much they believe that even their
Speaker 1: statues have to be doing double duty. It's not enough
Speaker 1: to just to just be rock okay, You've got to
Speaker 1: also be secure like a chest. You've got to also
Speaker 1: be a closet. You've got to also hold even more power. Alright,
Speaker 1: It's not just the face of Lincoln staring down on
Speaker 1: the natives. Inside is the real So that's it. That
Speaker 1: makes sense. I like that. That's called motherfucking completely nothing
Speaker 1: about I like that a lot that that Actually, I
Speaker 1: think that that does feel so much like the way
Speaker 1: white people see themselves in the world, right, that it's
Speaker 1: not just oh, we are good, therefore we erect a
Speaker 1: statue of ourselves. It's that that statue must also hold
Speaker 1: its own power, much power, maybe as strong, if not
Speaker 1: more powerful, than the figure that it was erected out of. Exactly,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a type of mania almost words, well,
Speaker 1: most certainly it's a mental illness. Most certainly it's a manium.
Speaker 1: Most certainly it's a sickness and unwillingness to look within.
Speaker 1: Even though they invented therapy, you know, there's literally a
Speaker 1: chamber inside to look inside of that you could say
Speaker 1: is empty and be like, ah, we got to do
Speaker 1: some work and fill this with something substantial, and instead
Speaker 1: they speculate, right, oh, this is where the true secrets
Speaker 1: are hidden. Was Lincoln shot in the head or was
Speaker 1: shot in the head? I wonder if that's also what
Speaker 1: they're trying to do. Maybe it's like we put it
Speaker 1: in his head. Do you think he was shot? No,
Speaker 1: that's just we're just getting started. He was shot in
Speaker 1: the head, and apparently because of how shitty police and
Speaker 1: and just secret service was back then, the dude John
Speaker 1: Wilkes Booths shot him in the head and then had
Speaker 1: enough time to yell out some cool shit on the
Speaker 1: stage because he was an actor. He yelled out some
Speaker 1: cool shit and then he rode off on a horse afterwards, like,
Speaker 1: y'all just watch this the president of Imagine watching the
Speaker 1: president of the United States get shot in the face.
Speaker 1: I wish finishing the play, I'm like, god could have
Speaker 1: happen now. I kept hoping when Pennce went to Hamilton's
Speaker 1: gonna be both that's just do what you have to do. Okay.
Speaker 1: I think we did it. I think we nailed it
Speaker 1: all down. I think this was spectacular. You were wonderful
Speaker 1: as anticipated. Tell the people where where they can find
Speaker 1: you any cool stuff you have going on. Well, Heny,
Speaker 1: it's we're in a pandemic. So nothing of note. Um,
Speaker 1: even though you might appreciate that. I did a Twitch
Speaker 1: show hosted by t Pain where I did comedy and
Speaker 1: he played Fortnite. So that's what I'm doing in the choir.
Speaker 1: But Cup visit me on Instagram at Black Dress Comedy.
Speaker 1: That's where I'm really thriving. Twitters for revolutions. I don't
Speaker 1: have that kind of energy right now else, So insta
Speaker 1: check out Couples Therapy pod episode to drop every Tuesday.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. I wait, I have to know more about
Speaker 1: this Tea page situation. Was he nice? Was he kind?
Speaker 1: He didn't really interact with me? You know, he played
Speaker 1: Fortnite with like different guests, and then there would be
Speaker 1: breaks where there would be sketches and comedy and I
Speaker 1: did a little stand up. Um. You know, it's always
Speaker 1: in quotes now in choir, and none of us are
Speaker 1: doing the art we believe in anymore. I mean, can
Speaker 1: you imagine how bad we're gonna be when we finally
Speaker 1: get up in front of people who I did an
Speaker 1: outdoor show. I've only done one. Did it I did it,
Speaker 1: and uh, did you touch the mic to your lips?
Speaker 1: They gave us like separate mics covers, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody had mass and we're socially distance outside. It was
Speaker 1: in a big open park, so it had all the
Speaker 1: correct for the thing. But then you just remember that, like,
Speaker 1: oh man, there's a po on behind me, and like
Speaker 1: maybe we should just go do that, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like maybe we should just go watch frogs
Speaker 1: leap and like the whole in nature, Like I don't
Speaker 1: what the funk am I telling you about? You know,
Speaker 1: my wife gets on my nerves, like, who the funk cares? Man?
Speaker 1: The world is dying and there's there's a beautiful scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Well we're doing our best. We're
Speaker 1: doing our best performing in ponds. You're performing in front
Speaker 1: of tea pain and neither one of us are happy
Speaker 1: about it. But this is this has been my mama
Speaker 1: told me. And uh, you can like and subscribe and
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