WEBVTT - "Cold in Their Bones" with Naomi Ekperigin 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:07.280 Yeah, if you're using the brown listering, you're a terrorist. 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:11.320 You've done some evil shit, you know what I mean. No, 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:13.680 I mean honestly, I'm with you. I'm with you on that. 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:17.760 I've never thought about it, but now, Yes, Osama brown listering, 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:24.160 Timothy McVeigh, Yes, Timothy McVeigh, brown listering. I think if 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:27.160 we really wanted to test people's character, if we wanted 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:30.120 to get into like some minority report ship and start 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:33.239 predicting crimes ahead of time, all you have to do 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:35.960 is wait, keep the list, keep a list of people 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:38.440 doing brown. It's like Suda fat. You know, you gotta 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:40.720 give him an idea. If you want sudof, have you 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.239 to the idea you're getting brown listening. You gotta write 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:46.440 down your basic You got all the information. Yeah, I'm 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:49.760 not gonna rest you on spot, but you better believe 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:52.960 the n s A is keeping tracking yours from now 0:00:53.040 --> 0:01:04.920 on because from chips in your hands, ask are racist? 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:15.000 The host hosting money turn stuff? You can't tell me 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:22.800 whoa there it is, there it is. Welcome, ladies and 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:28.720 gentlemen to another spectacular, devastating episode of My Mama Told 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:32.720 Me The Podcast When we Dive deep into the world 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:36.040 of black conspiracy theories, and we worked to finally answer 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:41.240 that question. Who the fuck is Herman Kine's ghost going 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.520 to vote for? We need to know the answer to 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:49.120 these questions. My gut is telling me Kanye. He seems 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.480 like a Kanye man. That's the sense I'm getting. But 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.400 we'll find out either way. We're happy that he's dead, 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.840 and more importantly, we're happy to be here now. I'm 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:02.960 your host. Links think Herman, I'm doing well. You're moving 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:06.040 through this podcast and every week I listened to myself 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:08.640 and I'm becoming more and more aware of my lisp, 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.120 which I went to speech therapy class to get rid 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.080 of as a child, and apparently it didn't work. Either 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:18.280 that or my teeth or somehow rebelling against my tongue. 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.920 Who knows. I'm not happy to hear it. But you 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.239 know what I am happy about is my guest today. 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:28.120 She's wonderful. She's hysterical, one of my favorite comedians. Do 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.560 you know her from Two Dope Queens on HBO? You 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:36.000 know her from her own podcast called Couples Therapy. She's hilarious. 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:43.720 Give it up from my guests Naomi at Paragain, Hello, 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:48.000 you gotta manufacture applause because we've been bested the pandemic. 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.240 So just give me a little bit of that. I 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.440 went door to door and got a bunch of people 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:56.760 to clap individually and mushed it all together. Perfect, perfect, 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:59.440 Thank you so much, Langston, you look well good to 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.399 thank you over Zoom. After all this time, it has 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:04.919 been a while we haven't. I think the last time 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:08.000 we saw each other was was Zooming, probably a month ago. 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:14.400 We did that. That's that benefit show that you hosted, 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:18.440 and you were very funny. I hosted Henny blessed. I forgot. 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:20.720 I forgot. I don't even know what you're referring to. 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.040 You're not invested at all. I love that, and we're 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:28.320 saving sick children and you are completely invested. I did 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.000 my part. I did my part for the community, you 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:32.160 know what I mean. I'm always I'm just always of service. 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:33.799 So I don't even think about it anymore. I don't 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:35.240 even know what I'm doing. I just show up, I 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:38.320 suit up, and I show up. Okay, the sacrifice is constant. 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:41.960 Therefore there's no reason to just sit in exactly exactly. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.560 That's just it. I get it. How How are we doing? 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:50.840 How are you handling Henny? I take two melotonin gummies 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:57.000 a night, sometimes a pepto bismal chaser. Okay, and I 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:58.920 just you know, I told myself too. I was like, 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.400 I'm gonna use this type of quarantine. Oh, I'm gonna 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.680 come out so skinny you don't even recognize me. I'm 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:08.680 about to get staged in car girl went up, went 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:12.480 up a size, and so, you know what I mean, 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:17.040 trying my best. I feel like everybody sort of had 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:20.000 that same sense of things. But I do think the 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:23.320 people that are coming out of this buff or or skinny, 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:26.640 there's something wrong with you, you know what I mean, 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:30.280 Like you're going like, why are you thriving in the 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.400 middle of everyone else in chaos? Okay? Do you know? 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:34.680 I was talking to one of my friends, like one 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:37.440 of my best friends. She's in New York and um 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:39.160 we were talking and I was like, how you doing 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.600 and she was like, I'm doing great. She was like, 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:43.320 you know, I don't really like to be around people. 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:45.520 She's like, I'm in the house, I'm reading my books. 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.400 Her and her wife just got two cats. She is 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:50.960 literally thriving in car. I was like, I'm gonna reach 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.279 this phone and punch your ass. Okay, I was like, 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.799 I'm gonna punch you in the throat because she was serious. 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:57.240 She was not trying to be funny. She was just like, 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.640 I'm feeling wonderful. This is the best gets for me. 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.960 And how dare she exactly? You know what I mean? Like, 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:07.120 how dare you enjoy yourself to that level? And even 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:10.000 if you are shut the funk up about it, thank you. 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.400 I'm like, you don't tell it, you don't tell it, 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.840 you go I'm fine, you say fine, you don't go 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.200 to a funeral and brag about how cool your suit is. 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:22.880 We all see it. We see the nice suit, focus 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:26.880 on the dead man. It's true. It's true. It was 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:30.040 just like, oh my god, it's out of control. But 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.920 we've spoke, and it took some work. You you struggled 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.120 through the assignment, but you came back to me with 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:41.640 a wonderful I'm very happy for us to be digging 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:45.960 into it. I feel like it's it's a conspiracy theory 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:50.480 as old as times. It's a an antique, if you will, 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:54.520 of conspiracy theories. But you told me, my mama told 0:05:54.600 --> 0:06:05.120 me white people don't get called. Yes, yes, I will 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.120 say this right, the slid adjustment was. She told me. 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.840 The fact was really, you know, white people like it cold. 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:12.880 They like it cold. They love that cold in their boons, 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:17.000 you know. And so whenever I was going to a 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.320 Caucasian household, you know, I brought a sweater, I was 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.640 told to bring a sweater, bring a layer. If I 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:25.400 was doing a sleepover, you're taking the long pants, you 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:28.359 know what the people. So it was a lot of 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:32.640 like that. So this was like, this was actually coming 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:35.600 from your mother. First of all, that your mother was 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:37.960 was in fact telling you this, and all of this 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:42.200 was just in preparation for dealing with the white man's 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.040 world look like. And I take a premise very seriously 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:47.240 if you told me the title of this podcast is 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:49.279 my mama told me. I'm not gonna tell you something 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.279 I heard on the street. I'm gonna tell you what 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:55.880 my mama told me. How and honestly, how dare I 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:59.839 ask you to break premise? You're You're an artist, and 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:02.120 I appreciate that about you, but I love that, I 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.160 love that you heard this from I'm an artist. I'm 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:09.360 a professional. So now, as you know, I famously went 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.960 to the Dolls in the school, a private school in 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:15.120 New York City. You know, apparently we're Jeffrey Epstein taught hello, 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:19.360 hold on, I'm gonna pause you there. That's how they 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:22.320 get the go ahead. Tell me more So, I started 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:26.000 dolls and in sixth grade, and that was like literally 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.640 my intro to like being around white people. Because I 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.120 grew up in Harlem. My dad's from Nigeria, my moms 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:34.280 from Detroit. My world was black. Okay, it was several 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:39.760 kinds of black, except for like exactly, I always say, 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:42.160 it's like Spike Lee plus the Lion King. We were 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:46.440 giving you both energies, okay, an African moment, a Detroit moment, 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:50.760 and like, but obviously through pop culture, you know, I 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:54.040 knew like white people. And I remember thinking when I 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.040 was gonna start school there, I was like, I thought 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:59.120 the white people would be nice, that's how they get you. 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:05.200 And then that and I remember thinking white girls wash 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:11.160 their hair every day because on TV shows, like more 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:12.880 kids shows, like I remember saying by the Bell or 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.680 something where like one of the characters like Kelly would 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:17.880 be like, I'm washing my hair and that would be 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.440 the reason why she would like not go somewhere that 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.280 she would be able to go somewhere because she had 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:26.000 to wash her hair then, right, So I was like, oh, 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.200 they just wash their hair all the time. Those are 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.000 the facts I went in with. And then my mother, 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.920 you know, very much in advanced was like, okay, you're 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.560 about to go to the school on Park Afnu, We're 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.840 gonna have to just run through some basics, you know. 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.400 And I was like, and like any time I would say, 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.439 i'd be like, because it's freezing at school, she was like, 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:47.840 because the white people like it. Come on now, okay, okay, 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:49.880 Well didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know this 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.439 was on the starter, she I s, did you not 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:57.160 read to the bottom there they're they're never chilly. They 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.559 they enjoy the cold. And then I believe you said 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:06.319 they love it. That's so fascinating. The hair part I 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:10.080 had not heard. But I did personally also think that 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:13.559 white people wash their hair all the time, because similarly, 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:17.920 in watching television, they always left the bathroom drying off 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:21.400 the air after a shower. I thought, you know, it's 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.000 like always they're walking out the shower and they're like 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:27.400 drying their hair before a phone call from the murderer. 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.120 The girls always had like the towel turban where they're 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.560 like what are you doing? You know, like gym class 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.839 showers on to they'd be washing their hair and gym 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.000 and ship and Black people would never do that. I'm 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:44.120 not showing up with shampoos and rock conditioners for did 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.000 people even take I mean again, you know, because I 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:49.200 grew up in the city versus like suburbs, like were 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:52.760 there actually do people actually take showers and gym? Uh? I? 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:56.080 We did not take showers after gym class, but we 0:09:56.200 --> 0:10:00.920 did take showers after like basketball practice or like okay 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.800 at school, you wouldn't just wait till you got home. Well, 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:06.439 it was less of the practices and more of like 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:08.600 sometimes we had to practice and we had a game 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:11.280 and then we would just like be hanging out because 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.400 we were trying to get girls to like us and ship. 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:16.280 So you too, you took a shower because you were 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.720 musty from rea early hours of running around with other 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:22.400 musty people. I mean, the idea of practice and then 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.160 the game seems too much, that seems overwhelming. You know, 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.920 I'm not active. You know, I'm not active. I'm famously inactive. 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:33.200 I I think what it was was a bunch of 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:38.120 grown men making up for their lost time through us, 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:42.200 so like, we're gonna turn you boys into machines instead 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.560 of being reasonable and being like, hey man, I'm not 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:46.720 sure that I'm built for this. I'm actually probably going 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:51.600 to run a comedy podcast. I'm probably just gonna be 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:53.680 a silly Billies so you don't have to run me 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.240 quite as much. But did they like assume you were sporty? 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.880 Because I know when I started, so I'm about five eight. 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.079 I was proudly five six as of age eleven, so 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.199 I was like, so I was tall when I was 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.160 younger than kind of stopped growing. But people were always like, 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:10.240 you gotta play basketball, and so they kept trying to 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.600 give me to play, and it was like, I don't 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:16.679 like competitions. I don't like sweating in public. There was 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:18.360 an eight team and a B team. I got on 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.080 the B team and literally they were like, could you 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.559 just like raise your hands and try to stop the ball? 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:25.199 You know what I mean? They're trying to shoot it. 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.040 And that was because I was like, I'm not here, 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:30.080 thought is like, why are you all so intense? Why 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:33.600 am I needing to stop the ball. This person everything 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:36.839 they wanted wanted he or she deserves the opportunity to 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:38.959 put the ball in the basket. I feel that way. 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.840 I'm very like I just was not. Yeah, like competition 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.520 in that way never really kind of registered for me, 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:48.680 or like the symbolism of like for the team, for 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:52.040 the school. It's like, who cares? Does that remain? Now? 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:55.560 Are you still I'm sure you're not doing sports, you're not. 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:00.320 Thank you for understanding famously, but do you not have 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:03.520 anything in your life that you're like competitive over or 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.200 like a thing that you're like, Okay, sure, jealousy, but 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:11.800 that's not the same. I am dreams and I wonder 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.280 how other people have achieved them already so so much 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.000 younger than me. But I don't have this yeah, like 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:19.680 you know, the jealous right, We're like, I don't think 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:23.400 other people, not most of the people, but I don't 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.120 think most people like if they get something, I'm not 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.840 like they shouldn't have it. I'm like, I just wanted 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.960 to why the fun don't I also have exactly? It's 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:32.880 not me being like except for every now and then, 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.000 you know, if you're a TikTok star and didn't you 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.560 comedy special, then I get stressed out. Let me be clear. 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:43.960 I'm a hater, so I be wishing the worst on 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:47.760 people that I get along with. Fine, it's not even 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.880 like we have a bad relationship, but oh my soul 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:55.360 ain't good. So i'd just be at home, have you always? 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:56.480 Because I don't think of me that way. You know, 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.400 you're such as you have such a sunny disposition. You're like, 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.720 you know this like biracial Zach Morris, giving us that 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.000 man about town energy, you know what I mean, giving 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:08.520 us cold smile, giving us queen wife. You know, I mean, 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:13.200 you guys are coming through evoking a Howard University energy 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:17.360 into the room. Now, my wife is the energy that 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:22.360 that we present. And I am an evil sort of 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:26.040 like a guy twiddling his fingers at home. And she 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:28.960 has to constantly be like, hey, man, maybe don't be 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:32.319 this way. You don't get it, you don't get what 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:35.679 I am. And then you know, I try to convince 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:39.200 her to stay. That's pretty much the relationships. Well, that's good. 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.920 She you know, she's staying. She wants to be there. 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:45.559 She's staying. I don't know for how long, but apparently 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.880 she's staying. Let me ask you this. Okay, we're talking 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:53.960 about white people in cold uh were you put off 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:59.160 in seeing their their behaviors and cold temperatures. Was this 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:01.720 something that you were like, y'all are different than me, 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:05.000 or was this just like, oh this is new Oh yeah, 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.720 I thought it was Psycho. I had a friend in college, 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:11.040 I mean high school again also Dalton. He wore shorts 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:15.960 every single day in New York City basketball shorts, okay, 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:20.200 giving you a thin mesh moment in December, and I 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.840 remember just being like, what the fund is wrong with you? 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.280 Or like the kids who would they lived in the 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:29.120 neighborhood so not far, they wouldn't wear a coat because 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:30.840 it was like, oh, well, I'm just gonna walk tin 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.200 blocks and it would just be like T shirt. And 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.440 you know New York is like it starts getting cold 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:38.600 in New York in October and it's pretty much cold 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:42.040 until April, and so people, I was like, this is 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:45.120 crazy to me. It was very very crazy to me. 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:49.040 Did you ever ask like why are you doing this? Well? 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.000 Are you not cold? And he'd be like, no, I'm 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:55.480 not cold, And I was like, are we really that different? 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:58.400 You know what? That's what made me think. I was like, 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.280 how are you not called? Meanwhile, was somebody who you 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.400 know New York winter, Honey, My mom taught me I 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:06.840 was wearing tights under my jeans, you know, like another leg, 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.680 and I'm like, I'm literally freezing. Would keep them on 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:14.240 all day, not even like change, And I know, just 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.400 in case that cold get up under their I got 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:20.440 another layer to protect me, a wall. And yeah, that's 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:23.120 the fascinating part. I love. I love what you said 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.760 about are we that different? Because it is. It's a 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:30.400 scary revelation seeing the way the whites have handled the 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.680 cold for so many years, Because we argue constantly that 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:38.200 biologically we're not that different as a species, that like 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:42.400 most of our arguments about race are purely built on 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.520 like systems and hatred whatever. But then you get to 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:49.600 fucking November and you see the white people are behaving outside, 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.840 and you're like, well, maybe some of these eugenics claims 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.720 are there's some some value there, And it's not that 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.320 they're smarter than us, it's just that maybe their bodies 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:03.400 are built differently. Are actually do they have duller receptors 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.760 as a result of not being beaten sure for four 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:11.880 hundreds of years, Perhaps the skin, perhaps the receptors just 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:15.600 don't sense the chill that's fair. I have to assume 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:20.320 tender meat freezes at a different temperature than hard meat. 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.680 And they just got that hard meat that ain't been beating. 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.640 It ain't tender and heed ain't been tenderized. It's a 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:31.840 nice way of putting it. Okay. So so you're seeing 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:35.280 these kids walk to school, You're seeing them behave sort 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:40.400 of uh loosely freely and the terrified and and you're terrified. 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:43.680 You're not really sure how to process this. Are are 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:48.800 you then making choices to stay away from them? Is this? 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:51.760 Is this putting you off? Do you know what I mean? Like? 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:54.600 Is this I didn't have that choice, right like if 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:56.720 they were the only people I could interact with. So 0:16:56.760 --> 0:17:00.560 it wasn't it wasn't that. It was just very um, 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:02.160 it's just interesting, you know, when you're in a situation 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:04.240 again as like the only black person I would have 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.840 a few black people where you're like you almost feel 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:08.960 a little crazy because there's not really anyone else you 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:10.800 can talk to about it, do you know what I mean? 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:13.240 So like unless I go home and be like oh 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:14.800 my god, but it's like too late, you know, to 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:16.560 talk about how someone didn't wear a coat. That's not 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:18.800 a good story. But at the moment, I'm like, this 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.520 is wild, right, and like there's no one there to 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:24.919 kind of say you're correct. You can't go back to 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.439 your mom, like, Mom, I've got a good one today. 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:29.840 They don't wear a coat, and she's like, yeah, I 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:31.640 don't know. That's not a great You got to give 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.639 him the hits, right, Okay, but you and this is 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:40.600 interesting because you are married to or engage penny ten 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.360 years strong. You can just call it common law at 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:46.880 this point. You're common law with a white person, yes, 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:51.919 who likes it warm? Can you imagine? I found someone 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:56.280 It's funny though his andy in general, his like hands 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.800 and feet will be cold. Like I remember the first 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.479 time I held his hand and I was like, you're freezing, yes, 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.720 and there it is. But he doesn't like to be cold. 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:06.960 So he's like, yeah, I get cold really easy. He's 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:10.640 like really into being toasty warm. I found the one. 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:15.480 He likes black women. He likes being warm. This guy's 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:18.600 breaking all the rules. Well he says it's because he's Jewish. 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:21.120 I don't know, but he's like he's like I really 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.560 think he's like we're in a liminal space. I do 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:27.000 think that there's probably some some truth to that. As 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:31.240 a as a half Jew, I I often find that chosen, 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:39.040 I didn't. I'm half chosen and the other rejected. One 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.440 of one's chosen, the other one isn't doing is hot. 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:45.400 But you know we're trying. So your dad is a Jew? Boo, 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:49.560 My dad is a Jew. Boo. You should I should 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:51.240 have known this. I should have known this years ago. 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:56.119 He married black twice. So he did it twice. Yeah, okay, 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:58.760 first first one better than the second. Not a fan 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:01.840 of the second one, but that one, she's a nice lady. 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:04.520 Where did he grow up that he, uh was so 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:11.640 keen to take black lovers? It was a different time. 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:13.280 That's why I say that it's a different time. No, 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:16.399 it was a very different time. So my my father 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:22.119 grew up in Cincinnati, Ohio, to a relatively rural area 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:26.440 of Cincinnati, Ohio. Uh that or at least suburban at 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.600 you know, a mix of that. Weird, it's it's back 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:34.960 when suburbs kind of had like acres. Yeah yeah, Um 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:38.520 that said, he had no reason to behave the way 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:42.240 he's behaved, you know what I mean, Like he didn't 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:45.480 have to do this. Nobody was encouraging this. My grandparents 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:48.320 weren't happy about it, but my boy, my boy made 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:52.359 some choices and really stuck it out. That's amazing appreciated. 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:54.000 I mean, I mean it's for the best, for the 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.400 best because you book, you know what I mean, And 0:19:56.480 --> 0:20:01.680 that's the chosen part of you black. Sure. You know 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:05.960 how much of Cheerios commercial loves a curly hair vaguely 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:11.240 black person. Oh man, they love that to just put 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:13.680 you in a commercial and they can't quite tell you 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:18.000 got a Bruno Mars energy, except they don't want to 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:19.840 see where you came from. Because you remember, there's a 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:23.840 Cheerios commercial with the interracial couple and people got angry. 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:28.480 Theerious they were. They couldn't believe that this, this clearly 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:33.240 biracial child in fact, had two different race parents. They 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:35.639 were so mad. It was so wild. But it's just 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:37.800 like so interesting again. It kind of goes back sometimes 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:43.760 like like symbolism to me um or expectations around concepts. 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:47.000 What I'm saying is, what did you want Cheerios to 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:50.840 do for you? Like attachment to what Cheerios is meant 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:53.600 to represent? Yeah, like you know what I mean, How 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:58.679 how invested are you in capitalism. That that the way 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:01.240 they sell it to you, you know what I mean. 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:05.119 Just you just want cheerios? Do you like the ship 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:08.320 or you don't exactly, you don't need them to sell 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:11.720 it to you in the exact way that Like, it's 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:14.800 like being angry at the magic Trick for not doing 0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:17.520 it the way you would have done it. It's like, bitch, 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:23.160 the dove came out. Just enjoy that came out. It's yeah, 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:27.720 it's weird. It's weird, but okay, So Andy likes it 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:30.399 or warm, Yes, he likes to be warm. We're on 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:32.560 the same temperature page, which I think is crucial to 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:35.840 any relationship lasting. Yeah, I believe that. I think if 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:38.080 you were not on the same temperature page with your partner, 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:41.720 it's going to cause problems. I do think that that's 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:45.280 very true. My wife and I similarly. I get very cold, 0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:48.199 very easily. But I also prefer it colder in the 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:51.120 house because I think that like you sleep better when 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:54.320 you're like naked and afraid kind of energy, you know 0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:57.720 what I mean, Like just that cold outside and you're 0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:02.480 you're tucked in and yet move that's a good See. 0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:04.360 I hate that because like that feeling when as soon 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:06.040 as you move, you like hit a cold spot in 0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:07.879 the bed, you know what I mean. And then like 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:10.080 I feel it like it wakes me up. I'm like 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:11.960 very warm all the time. That's like part of why 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:14.000 I don't like l a. I sweat like Whitney r 0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:18.280 I p like naturally, like I'm very much like ten 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:21.000 seconds outside beat it upper lip. Okay, that's how I 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:24.560 am in the world. To be clear, Whitney sweat wasn't natural. 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:28.280 That was that was a kind of sweat. I'm aware, 0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:31.800