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Speaker 1: to the idea you're getting brown listening. You gotta write

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Speaker 1: down your basic You got all the information. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: The host hosting money turn stuff? You can't tell me

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Speaker 1: whoa there it is, there it is. Welcome, ladies and

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Speaker 1: gentlemen to another spectacular, devastating episode of My Mama Told

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Speaker 1: Me The Podcast When we Dive deep into the world

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Speaker 1: of black conspiracy theories, and we worked to finally answer

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Speaker 1: that question. Who the fuck is Herman Kine's ghost going

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Speaker 1: and more importantly, we're happy to be here now. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host. Links think Herman, I'm doing well. You're moving

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Speaker 1: through this podcast and every week I listened to myself

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Speaker 1: She's wonderful. She's hysterical, one of my favorite comedians. Do

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Speaker 1: Give it up from my guests Naomi at Paragain, Hello,

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Speaker 1: you gotta manufacture applause because we've been bested the pandemic.

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Speaker 1: So just give me a little bit of that. I

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Langston, you look well good to

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Speaker 1: thank you over Zoom. After all this time, it has

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Speaker 1: We did that. That's that benefit show that you hosted,

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Speaker 1: You're not invested at all. I love that, and we're

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Speaker 1: Therefore there's no reason to just sit in exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: very important for me to understand. Do you think that

423
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: when people were saying they weren't cold that they meant it?

424
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: I absolutely do. I absolutely do they, Henny, I think

425
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 1: they were just walking so care free. You know how

426
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: when it's actually physically cold, you tend to kind of

427
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: tighten your body up if it's sort of you know,

428
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: put your head down, And it was like a summer

429
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: day for them, just walking leisurely, head to the sun.

430
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: And that's how I was like, oh, you, this is

431
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 1: not a game. And like also to wear shorts every day,

432
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 1: you know, and then just be like yeah, this is fine. Right, Well,

433
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: that's my fear is like I and part of The

434
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: reason I asked, I guess is because I do know

435
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: that as a high school kid, there were things I

436
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: did that I just made. It was my thing, right right,

437
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: So you what you don't want to be is like, well,

438
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: I wore shorts last winter, so now I'm the shorts

439
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: kid in the wintertime. Kind of like we had this

440
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: this dude, Coach Hopkins, he's dead r I p Coach Hopkins,

441
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: Witney and Witness, both of them. I hope they're hanging

442
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: out together. But and Herman Kine. I hope Herman Caine,

443
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: Whitney and Coach Hopkins are all having drinks together in heaven.

444
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 1: That said, Coach Hopkins used to wear shorts every single

445
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: day in Chicago in the winter time, and we would

446
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: be like, hop why are you why He's like, oh, man,

447
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: I got diabetes. I can't feel nothing in my legs,

448
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: and so like that that made sense where I was like, oh,

449
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: that's a very clear explanation. But also the shorts just

450
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: became your brand, so you're you're mixing these two things.

451
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: But when you're a kid, there's no explanation and it

452
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: just is branding is like I'm the mess shorts kid,

453
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: and everybody like I guess so, Dylan, Yeah, it's what

454
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: the world. You believe them fully, fully fully like those

455
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: that was comfort. That was comfort, It wasn't fashion, and

456
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: it was just I'm haunted by it. It's haunting me.

457
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm also the kind of person who though, like I'm

458
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: the kind of person who's like, I'm cold, put on

459
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: a coat. Like when I see somebody like not dressed, right,

460
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: I get very like maternal energy of like, are you okay?

461
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: Do you want sweater? Like I don't, like, Yeah, let's

462
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: get you inside with some Campbell soup. Baby, this is

463
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: this is out of hand exactly. We're gonna take a

464
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: and we'll be back with more Naomi and more, my

465
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: mama told me. And we are back. Yeah, we're back

466
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: here with more Naomi Barragan more. My mama told me.

467
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: We're still talking about these chilly ass white people cold

468
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: to their bones, as it was once presented to Naomi

469
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: from my mom. Did your mom not? Nope? You said

470
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: she's from Detroit? Was she from like a black Detroit?

471
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: Because then she went to University of Michigan. Oh did

472
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: you yes? That was her? Like intro I think too

473
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: white folks, and that's what she was saying, because she

474
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: was like they She's like people just walk across campus

475
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: in in harbor with like nothing on or you know,

476
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 1: very little. So that was I think what started her

477
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: on that. And she was like, I will carry this

478
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: lesson for my child one day, have to carry to

479
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: her all whites all right. I did a bunch of

480
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: research on this subject that I want to run past you,

481
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: and you see, if any of this sort of clicks

482
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: with you, feel free to jump in at any point,

483
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 1: and certainly feel free to correct any of this that

484
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 1: doesn't sit right you. Having a white partner might be

485
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: more knowledgeable about some of those subjects and even the

486
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: Google searches that I do. But what I started with,

487
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: and this is probably problematic, I started my research by

488
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: looking up are white people cold blooded? That's what I

489
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: went with for the beginning, because I wasn't sure how

490
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: to phrase this, and apparently they're not. Apparently that's only

491
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: lizards and uh fish, I think, but they're not cold blooded.

492
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: But a study did show that the average human temperature

493
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: for men and women is around like thirty six point

494
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: eight six degrees celsius plus or minus point to three.

495
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: Why are you bringing me celsius. Hey, they put it

496
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: in celsius and I didn't have the effort in me

497
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: to go fix it. Goddamn it, I don't know what

498
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: thirty six point eight degrees celsius. I feel like it's

499
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: what are we like? Ninety eight point six? Isn't that

500
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: the commercials used to say? Do you remember those commercials?

501
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: I don't remember listening talking about your body temperature? Okay,

502
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: this is what they said. They say, the average human

503
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: mouth is ninety eight point six degrees and then they

504
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: will put some listerine in there and they'd be like,

505
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: now it's cool as fuckin Okay, so the average temperature

506
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: around thirty six point eight six degrees celsius. I'm so sorry,

507
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: But this is what's interesting is that the study was

508
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: originally done because they were trying to see if men

509
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: and women differed in terms of like their temperatures, and

510
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: white men and white women generally do not differ significantly. However,

511
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: there was a big difference between black and white women,

512
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: black women having point one three degrees celsius higher temperatures

513
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: on average than white women. Well, that feels like it

514
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: makes sense, you know what I mean? Karen's are cold?

515
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: You know what I mean when you said the cold blood,

516
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: and I said absolutely. I wonder if it's just the

517
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: Nordic roots, right, is it? The Nordic roots. They come

518
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: from the cold climate originally, so of course they're just

519
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: naturally prepared, you know for the ice age. Yes, that like, okay,

520
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: you grew up in this even ancestral ancestral ancestrally, so

521
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: that's always in you. I mean you can also just tell,

522
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: like by the fact that like I remember when I

523
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: was little, little like elementary school, I remember saying, like,

524
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: how could white people be the master race when they

525
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: turn colors in the sun? And it's because you know

526
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: how when you see, like, um, a white person who

527
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: does you know, live in a hot climate, they become

528
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: just red and leathery, and the skin can't cope. The

529
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: skin can't cope, which leads me to believe it's not

530
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: meant to be sure, you know what I mean, Like

531
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: you're not You're not built for that sudden to be beating.

532
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: This was never yours you. You were meant to be

533
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: in a high mountain where where the air is thin

534
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: and the wind is chill. You mean, like just this

535
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: is the opposite of the place that you're supposed to be.

536
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: And it's only because of colonization that you even brought

537
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: yourself down here in the first place. Exactly exactly do

538
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: you belong in a fiord? You know what a fiord like,

539
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: one of those Swedish Norwegian just watery areas that specific

540
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: cold Ikea desk of some kind. Well, they also belong

541
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: in an Ikea desk. Sure you belong in a in

542
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: a watery field with an Ikea desk in front of you.

543
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: Just stay the funk out of Africa. That's not yours. Okay,

544
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up though, because historically, right

545
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: when we're sort of looking at the biological transitions of

546
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: where whiteness comes from, apparently humans started off with pretty

547
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: like neutral skin tones, much like myself. That we were

548
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: because we we were sort of born from apes. If

549
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: you want to have that argument, I'm happy to do it.

550
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: But because we're born from apes, we were Jesus made

551
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: me what you talk about. God put me down here.

552
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: You put me down here two thousand years ago. There

553
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: was nothing before that. There's nothing else to talk about.

554
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: Uh So, apparently because we're born from chimps, we basically

555
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: had these neutral skin tones and fewer sweat glands. And

556
00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: then as a part of evolution, melanin was introduced because

557
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: we started shedding the hair, right, so we're losing the

558
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: body hair, which means our skin is now more exposed

559
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: to sunlight, which means we need melanin to be able

560
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: to reject the sun from the ship out of us

561
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: exactly right. So then people start traveling, they're going in

562
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: different directions, and basically a bunch of white people essentially

563
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: evolved because, uh they their skin now needed a way

564
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: to quickly absorb vitamin D and folate, and so you

565
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: go to these other places where sun is less prominent,

566
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: and because black skin rejects the sun, you know, white

567
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: skin absorbs all of it, kind of thing needed a

568
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: way to absorb it quickly, which, to your point, is

569
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: why they burned so easily. Uh In, they can't take it.

570
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: But if you think about so many of the places,

571
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 1: it's not simply right, like when you think about Russia, Alaska,

572
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: like any any of those places where like it's all

573
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: so dark half the year, you know what I mean.

574
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: And so it's also like they only get a couple

575
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: hours of sun, so they really gotta take it because

576
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: it's not like the sun is out for more than

577
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,239
Speaker 1: four hours. I went to Sweden once and we went

578
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: and it was probably end of April, and that's like

579
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: when it was sunny and like the sun didn't go

580
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: down until about three a m. And then came and

581
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: then came back up again at seven and like it

582
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: wasn't it was still um cold, but it was sunny.

583
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: People were out like they were losing a fucking mind.

584
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: Just t shirt because they're like the sun, like they

585
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: were just must absorb. I need this power. There's no

586
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: telling when it will be back. And I was like, okay,

587
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: give me my park. I'm like I still need a puffy.

588
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: I still need a puffy. But they were living because

589
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: I'm like from where they're from, and that's like when

590
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: I get it right, Like it felt like a very

591
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: foreign land. And I was like, you know what you

592
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: get like sun for three months out the year. Yes,

593
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. And there did more importantly,

594
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: I respected you stayed where you belonged, or white skin

595
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: belonged in this white climate. A white skin functions best,

596
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: and you celebrate when that thirty four degree sun themes

597
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: down on you and you're like, yeah, this is great,

598
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: and it's perfect for the flesh that I was provided

599
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: by my ancestors. Do you also think it has something

600
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: to do with the ability to hide from predators? If

601
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: you are Alabaster and you're living in a land full

602
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: of snow, is that part of it? Is that part

603
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 1: of it that you can just kind of blend into

604
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: the snowstorm? I have to assume that it was part

605
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: of it. I mean, we are the color of the

606
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: sand and the you know, the dirt, and think that

607
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: we dirt feels sure. I can lean up against the pyramid,

608
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: you won't see me anymore. That was the plan. These

609
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 1: stripes on my body already. I'm built to be next

610
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: to a pyramid. So how many? How many have you

611
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: already getting hate mail yet yelling about how we're dividing

612
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: the world. I pray to God that we do. I

613
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: was saying it to Nikki the other day that nothing

614
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: would make me happier than Fox News picking this up

615
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: and just just having a field day with everything that

616
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: we're suggesting that white people are somehow built for snow

617
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: so they can hide from leopards. Oh, that's that would

618
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: be spectacular. If they get furious about this good fingers crusted.

619
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: So one of the things that that happens, uh. And

620
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: one of the things that they talk about in particular

621
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: with like this dealing with the cold for white people

622
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: and for black people as well. One of the things

623
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: that they said is that there aren't that many biological

624
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: differences between white and black people, but in terms of

625
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: the way we handle temperature and climate, it has way

626
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: more to do with acclimating than it does with biology. Okay,

627
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: meaning if you are if you are sitting there thinking

628
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: that you are a cold person, a person that can

629
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: handle the cold, then you're probably more capable of handling

630
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: it somebody who is being taught that, like you're a

631
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: warm person, you need to be in a warm climb. Huh. Interesting,

632
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: So you think it's some sort of an assertion of

633
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: white power to be in the cold? Okay, now we're talking.

634
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: Now you've got you've got my ear, because I do

635
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: think that some of this has been weaponized, right that,

636
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: Like if you tell a bunch of people that they

637
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: are warm climate people, even though Africa is a very diverse,

638
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: uh continent with lots of different types of environments, fucking

639
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: you know, there's all kinds of people that live in

640
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: all kinds of ways and this giant piece of land.

641
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: If you tell everybody they're warm and they need to

642
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: be in warmth, and then take them away from that

643
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: warmth and keep them in these cold places, they're naturally

644
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 1: going to start to question, you know, if they can

645
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: handle it, if they're frantically capable. Well, it's such also

646
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: a marker of um, you don't belong here, Like do

647
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: you notice I can't think of a specific movie, but

648
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: do you know that trope for instance of like the

649
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: white explorer who goes to some jungle land, go somewhere

650
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: for it, and then he's always like sweating and like

651
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: dabbing himself with a rag, like he can't take it.

652
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: He doesn't belong in the savage land. And I think

653
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: it's like the same thing if you're if you're telling people,

654
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna bring you someplace that is so

655
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: different however, but here. But here's the thing though, I

656
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: think about it. When they brought people are from Africa,

657
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: they started with the south. They started bringing them someplace,

658
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like and that's also where

659
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: you still have Well you could argue that's acclamation, right,

660
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: that's how you get them from. Okay, we took you

661
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: from a warm climate, so we'll bring you to a

662
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: warm climate where your body started. We'll get you started.

663
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: But then if you want to gape from us, you'll

664
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: freeze to right right, literally run away from the environment

665
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: we brought you into. Your body is not built for

666
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: handling it. Well. Also not just that your body is

667
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: not over anything. We haven't given you the tools to

668
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: handle it. Because if you're out there, honey, if you

669
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: in the South, you out picking cottony your barefoot with

670
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: a tunic, right, and then if you want to go north,

671
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: it's like, we gotta get you some ugs. We gotta

672
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: get you unknitted cap. You don't have it. Yeah, they

673
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: didn't send you off with that nick cap. You had

674
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: to know how to knit that yourself. And you had

675
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: to have been educated enough and sort of savvy enough

676
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: to know that you were going to need to encounter

677
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: nit cap weather. Did you think Harriet Tubbs had had

678
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: a stash of cap? Do you know what I mean?

679
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: Like part of the railroad. She was like, all right,

680
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna stop over here and get you on our

681
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: way to the Montreal Jazz Festival. We're gonna stop and

682
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: get you some some shoes. Hold on, before we keep going,

683
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: we gotta hit this hat story real quick. You guys

684
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: are gonna be weirded out by this, But your ears

685
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: are gonna get cold. That's something that you you haven't

686
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: prepared for. I know you haven't been up here, Joseph,

687
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: but I swear to God, your ears get cold after

688
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: we walk a few more hundred feet. It's true. Even

689
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: though the underground freezing, you're freezing. You gotta get your cats.

690
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: So I started researching specifically how many people freeze to

691
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: death every year, assuming that that most people that freeze

692
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: to death we're going to be like white hikers and

693
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: like Siberian prisoners. I thought it would be a lot

694
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: of like that. But it turns out that actually about

695
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 1: thirteen hundred and thirty people die every year from cold

696
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: exposure death in the US. Yeah. But here's what surprised

697
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: me is that a lot of it is actually coming

698
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: from cities. That it's it's a fair amount of it.

699
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: Most of it is from like rural areas, but a

700
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: big portion of its coming from city East of the

701
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: people that are freezing are outside when it happens, are

702
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: in their homes or in an enclosed area when they

703
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: freeze today, oh my god, because they don't have heat,

704
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: because America is the third world country. There we go. Now,

705
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: oh come on, now, now you're talking that talk, because

706
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: I think what we're seeing is is like a very

707
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: back to your point about this being a tool of

708
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: white supremacy, right, is we're seeing actual evidence that white

709
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: people are at least through their own acclamation, more capable

710
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: of handling the cold. And then they're freezing a bunch

711
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 1: of brown and black people and pour people out, putting

712
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: them in environments where they can't. It's in the Northeast

713
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: and the Midwest where it gets fucking freezing every you know, September,

714
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: and then you're just like letting them die. Well, it's

715
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: also because you know, legally, at least in New York,

716
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: which is what I know, legally, your land lord does

717
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: not have to turn on heat. I believe until November one.

718
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: It might actually be it could be October one, but

719
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: one of those I think it's November is legally when

720
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: they have to turn on the heat. This is what

721
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, first of all, you got a goddamn

722
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: turkey on the table, and you ain't got no here.

723
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: That don't make no sense. That's not right, it's not right.

724
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: And you are New Yorker me a person from Chicago.

725
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: We both know that November is too late. It's already froze,

726
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: it's already snapped. It's already snapped. It's snapped. If Halloween

727
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: at the latest, do you know what I mean? At

728
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: the very latest? But usually like top of I mean,

729
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 1: you know, now we've got some good global warming, but hetty,

730
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you'd be freezing or also like you

731
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: don't even need a lot, like it's not like, oh,

732
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,479
Speaker 1: winter has started. All you need is like a week

733
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: of cold temperatures today, Like it doesn't take long. So yeah,

734
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: And and here's the crazier part. November is when they

735
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: start right and they legally have to keep your heat on.

736
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: March is when they have no longer legally have to

737
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: keep your heat on in fucking March. In Chicago, maybe

738
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: our coldest man like forty degrees right, like it forties,

739
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: it's fucking twenties. Sometimes in March, we we don't break

740
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: winter until July four. That is our measurement. I don't

741
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: celebrate the holiday that's the break of winter in the

742
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: city I'm from. And so you know, you're in theory

743
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 1: creating parameters to say we are being humane, we're treating

744
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: people with like decency, But the reality is you're freezing

745
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: them to death, exactly because who owns the properties? You

746
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: know exactly well exactly. I don't need to say it

747
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: it was no. I don't know if it is no,

748
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: but I'll say it right now, White people, you own

749
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: the stuff, and you're freezing us to it, and I

750
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: think it's on purpose. Here's where it gets even crazier

751
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: is I started looking up because you know, obviously exactly

752
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: what you're saying about, like the idea that you know

753
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: you could be frozen in your own home because the

754
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 1: heat isn't turned on. But then I started looking up evictions. Right,

755
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: how how legal is it to evict someone in the

756
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: middle of the winter. Apparently it's totally legal that like,

757
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: as long as you give them the notice, the proper notification,

758
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what time of year it is, in

759
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,959
Speaker 1: any kind of cold. So now we are people being

760
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: frozen in their homes. They're then being sent out into

761
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: the streets to presumably freeze in much more dastardly terrible ways.

762
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: I know, I know it's interesting because, like, you know,

763
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: what you're saying to one of those conditions under which

764
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: people freeze, and you assumed it would be like the

765
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: Siberian prison and stuff. Actually, here's what I think a

766
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: lot of it is in the US. It is drunk

767
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: people passing out outside. Yes, that is what it is.

768
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: It is like people who were walking from the bar

769
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,959
Speaker 1: in winter. You know, people who think like a little

770
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: booze will warm me up, just you know, and then

771
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: they like walk and they go and they you know

772
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: what I mean. They can fall, slip, they can hit

773
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: their head, whatever happens. But it's like sucking twenty degrees

774
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: and then overnight they freeze. They're frozen, and so that's it.

775
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you said that because that brings me

776
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: to another part of the research, because the thing that

777
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: they talk about is freezing to death actually isn't even

778
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: as common as it seems like it would be. What

779
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: is common is something called cold exposure. Dying from cold exposure,

780
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: injuries based on cold exposure, which is exactly what you're

781
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 1: talking about. I get super fucked up. I go out,

782
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: I don't feel the cold quite as much as I

783
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,479
Speaker 1: would have, and then I get frostbite or I get

784
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: a more dramatic injury hit my head, whatever it is,

785
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: so I don't eye on the spot from that, I

786
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: die from the other condition that was involved in this.

787
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: And so they say people with like uh, with blood

788
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: pressure issues or people with pre existing conditions often are

789
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: going to the hospital for what is ultimately them freezing

790
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: to death, but it's not being identified that way. It's like, oh,

791
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: this is shutting down. But it wasn't shutting down just

792
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: because your body was shitty. It's shutting down because you

793
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 1: were exposed to these extreme temperatures that your body couldn't handle,

794
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 1: and now all your organs are like fuck it, I'm out.

795
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: I know I developed asthma when I was twenty six,

796
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: did not have it as a kid, have it now

797
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 1: and what it's what I learned and I'm I still

798
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: learned the different things that kind of will trigger me.

799
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: And one of the things that will all will give

800
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: me an asthma attack is usually going from hot to cold,

801
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: cold to hot, and I mean like literally like to

802
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: go from you know, in your warmhouse out in winter

803
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: if it's if it's really cold like that, like windy

804
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: and stuff. My whole chest tightens up and it's like

805
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: a literally like an instant thing, and it's just like

806
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: a my body is just reacting to the fact that

807
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: it's freezing and it just like tightens and then it's

808
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: like okay, well, okay, we're gonna wait this out. We're

809
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: gonna see what we can do about it, or like

810
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: get into you know, kind of like I was going

811
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: to say that walk to the subway from my train,

812
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 1: and then like kind of if I get on the train,

813
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: I can kind of regulate. Again. You hit your pump,

814
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: you you gather yourself. You're fine too. And to your point,

815
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: thank god, you have the resources to know to walk

816
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: to the train, to be able to pay for the

817
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: money to get on the train, to get yourself to

818
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: a warm place, when a lot of people in fact

819
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: are not equipped with these resources, are coming from an

820
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: already cold environment, the colder one just suffering from asthma

821
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, and then just sort of having

822
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: to to die because of you know, these circumstances. So ultimately,

823
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: and this is the scariest part of all of it.

824
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry that this uh stopped being funny and

825
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: turned into us just criminalizing and that's the comedic journey. Okay,

826
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: this is net and I love it. We need to

827
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: do it sometimes. So the even more terrifying part of

828
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: this is that Army data that was sort of collected

829
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: because there's not a lot of data on this ship

830
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: because white people don't want to do this research. But

831
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: army data suggests that black people are two point two

832
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: to four times more likely to experience cold based injuries,

833
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: really four times more likely wild. So, in essence, if

834
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: I could summarize everything that we've sort of gathered here,

835
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: and you made the point before I even got to it,

836
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: is that white people created a system that allows for

837
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: us to freeze to death intention now. Wow, wow, wow, wow,

838
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: this podcast is huge. This podcast is huge. Dismantling Okay, man,

839
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm dismantling. I think I just

840
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: blame white people for stuff every week. They must, you must,

841
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: you must keep them accountable, especially during the Caucasian Awakening.

842
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: That's what I call this time. Now then, because suddenly

843
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: they were all at home and could watch the George

844
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: Floyd video over like what they've just they've woken up?

845
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: Well that was I think that was the weird part

846
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: about all of it before was like they could have

847
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: watched a million George Floyd's before this, But like you said,

848
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: they weren't at home. They were busy. They were out

849
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: on the town themselves, and now everybody's just at home.

850
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: It was like, hey, if y'all seen this video, apparently

851
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: this has been happening the whole time, the whole time.

852
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: We gotta get out there, We gotta get out there.

853
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: I don't have to be at work. Why don't we

854
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: just go out and protest? Brunches clothes, I might as

855
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 1: well protest. Hello. All right, we're gonna take another break

856
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 1: and then we'll be back with more Naomi and more,

857
00:48:55,560 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: my mama told me, and we are back anywhere. Yeah,

858
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 1: we're back. We're back here with more naomiic bar again.

859
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: More my mama told me. We're still talking about you evil,

860
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: evil white people and how you've been planning to freeze

861
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: black people to death as a form of supremacy. We

862
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: figured it all out. We got you, We got you.

863
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: You're caught, your dirty scoundrels, You're caught. Okay, I want

864
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: to play a game. This is a fun game that

865
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: I like to call white lies. Yeah, that is amazing.

866
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: Did you know, Andy, Actually we watch Friends on Netflix.

867
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: We rewatch should I had never seen it from the beginning,

868
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: and we started keeping a um, a visual what would

869
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: you call it, a visual journal, I guess of every

870
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: black person that appears on Friends inter acts. Though, Okay,

871
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you're just like a background. You have

872
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: to actually have lines. You have to engage with the

873
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: friends in some way. Yeah, um, and it was Aunt

874
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: Viv was on it, and yeah Dark ant Viv Dark

875
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: and yes, and then um, Sherry Shepard worked with Ross.

876
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: You know, obviously I used to Tyler Gabrielle Union. I

877
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: didn't know Gabrielle Union was on there. Gabrie. You thing,

878
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: if you got to interact with a friend, your career

879
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: took off, all right, your career took off. If you

880
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: interacted and really got some screen time, that was it

881
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: for you. That was that that little Friends bump that

882
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: you needed to become a new Hollywood star. That's what

883
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: you needed. Wow, Okay, this is a good question. And

884
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: for you, how did you feel watching Friends? Because I personally,

885
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: and I'll just say this before you even tell me,

886
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: I personally despised the show. Yeah, I really didn't I

887
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: really didn't like the show. I thought that um at

888
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: the times. I remember when it first came out, like

889
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: it was very popular in school and everyone would talk

890
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 1: about it. So I like started to kind of watch

891
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: it towards the end because I was like, I kind

892
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 1: of want to know what's happening. But I will say

893
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 1: it actually also got worse and harder the older they got.

894
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 1: Like there was some of the first couple of seasons

895
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: where you're like, Okay, we're having fun, and then it

896
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: gets to a point where it's like you fucking grown,

897
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: Like Chandler has a real job. Why the hell he

898
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: living with a roommate? And why asked apartment? Why are

899
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 1: y'all thirty five? And still like doing this? Yes, get

900
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: it together, it's aspire for more. And also like Ross,

901
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: you have a child, you know what I mean. And

902
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: there were just some times I just felt like, you're

903
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: a father, get it together. Yeah, this friendship should not

904
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 1: mean this much to you. Maybe fatherhood is the better.

905
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah. And then also Rachel, Okay, honey, she's

906
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: all about weaponizing those white tears. She was just like

907
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: a white woman who would Jennifer Anderson. She would just cry.

908
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: Rachel would just cry and it was always just like

909
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: my God, like Monica such a Karen So type needed

910
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: stuff her way running the show. I was like, the

911
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: only one I can kind of get with sometimes is Phoebe.

912
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 1: But then she became too dumb, like again the way

913
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: she was like hippie initially, she then became like a

914
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: total ditch and it was just like, okay. So that

915
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: was my long answer, because obviously when you watch the

916
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: whole season back to back, you have thoughts. Sure, I

917
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: will say that I appreciate your answer in that I

918
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: watched the pilot and I was like, nope, and the

919
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: never I never invested again. I was like, this ship

920
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: ain't for me, some goofy white ship that like I

921
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: and I like goofy white ship. I listen, I am

922
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: of goofy white above that this one was mes bless this.

923
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: I love it. Let's have a great time making blesses mess.

924
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: But it's a type of goofy white that I'm just like,

925
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: this is harmless whatever. When you create a New York

926
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: city that's entirely white, that has no yeah, like that's

927
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: in the city as well. Remember that, except for Blair,

928
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: Underwood showed up for a hot minute. Yeah, and what

929
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: a timeless sexy man who deserves better than to be

930
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: uh belittled. I know, sex in the city, can you believe? Sick? Sick.

931
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: But it's also like he's the black guy that they

932
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: all knew, do you know what I mean? Like from

933
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: l a Law Like they were like, it's Blair Underwood

934
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: around ladies, they're more, well, we simply must have Blair Underwood,

935
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, you can have somebody else that

936
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be Blair Underwood. Get little Boosey and

937
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: sex in this exactly what happened when a little Boosey

938
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: and what's her name Charlotte have to have that shares

939
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 1: together and little Boozy is like, show me a pussy

940
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: for and then all right, I'll know how to do

941
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: this thing. That's a good show. Alright, white lies, this

942
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: is the game. I am going to present to you

943
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: a very celebrated or at least highly believed conspiracy theory

944
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: in the white community. I would like for you to

945
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 1: take a second to unpack exactly why this conspiracy theory

946
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: is so widely supported by white people. Why does this

947
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory mean so much to them? What are the

948
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: sneaky motherfucker's up to Yes, I'm ready, hell yeah, Okay.

949
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: So apparently at Mount Rushmore, which has been in the

950
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: news quite a bit late lately because our our fantastic

951
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: leader is going to get his face up there and

952
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: we're all super excited about it. Rushmore has been in

953
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: the news and apparently behind Lincoln's head there's an eighteen

954
00:54:54,239 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: foot chamber a compartment, uh that the builder, who was

955
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: a white supremacist, that's worth noting, built for keeping stuff

956
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: behind Lincoln said they have been using that chamber for

957
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: keeping apparently secret documents, and white people for years have

958
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: speculated about what those secret documents are. They claim that

959
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: they're like secrets of the government knowing about terrorists attacks

960
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: before they happen, in all these like just maniacal, evil

961
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: details that they're hiding from the American public. That being said,

962
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: why do you think white people are so obsessed with

963
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 1: the chamber hidden in Mount Rushmore? Wow? Wow wow wow?

964
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: That is uh that is so I've never heard that before.

965
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: So I'm so surprised by this. Um. Why are they

966
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: obsessed to the chamber inside about rich boor um? Because

967
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: they love themselves so much they believe that even their

968
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: statues have to be doing double duty. It's not enough

969
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: to just to just be rock okay, You've got to

970
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: also be secure like a chest. You've got to also

971
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: be a closet. You've got to also hold even more power. Alright,

972
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: It's not just the face of Lincoln staring down on

973
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: the natives. Inside is the real So that's it. That

974
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: makes sense. I like that. That's called motherfucking completely nothing

975
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: about I like that a lot that that Actually, I

976
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: think that that does feel so much like the way

977
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: white people see themselves in the world, right, that it's

978
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: not just oh, we are good, therefore we erect a

979
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 1: statue of ourselves. It's that that statue must also hold

980
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: its own power, much power, maybe as strong, if not

981
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: more powerful, than the figure that it was erected out of. Exactly,

982
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: it's a it's a type of mania almost words, well,

983
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: most certainly it's a mental illness. Most certainly it's a manium.

984
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: Most certainly it's a sickness and unwillingness to look within.

985
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: Even though they invented therapy, you know, there's literally a

986
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: chamber inside to look inside of that you could say

987
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: is empty and be like, ah, we got to do

988
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: some work and fill this with something substantial, and instead

989
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: they speculate, right, oh, this is where the true secrets

990
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: are hidden. Was Lincoln shot in the head or was

991
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: shot in the head? I wonder if that's also what

992
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: they're trying to do. Maybe it's like we put it

993
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: in his head. Do you think he was shot? No,

994
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: that's just we're just getting started. He was shot in

995
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: the head, and apparently because of how shitty police and

996
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: and just secret service was back then, the dude John

997
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: Wilkes Booths shot him in the head and then had

998
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: enough time to yell out some cool shit on the

999
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: stage because he was an actor. He yelled out some

1000
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: cool shit and then he rode off on a horse afterwards, like,

1001
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: y'all just watch this the president of Imagine watching the

1002
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: president of the United States get shot in the face.

1003
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: I wish finishing the play, I'm like, god could have

1004
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: happen now. I kept hoping when Pennce went to Hamilton's

1005
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: gonna be both that's just do what you have to do. Okay.

1006
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: I think we did it. I think we nailed it

1007
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: all down. I think this was spectacular. You were wonderful

1008
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: as anticipated. Tell the people where where they can find

1009
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: you any cool stuff you have going on. Well, Heny,

1010
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: it's we're in a pandemic. So nothing of note. Um,

1011
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: even though you might appreciate that. I did a Twitch

1012
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: show hosted by t Pain where I did comedy and

1013
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: he played Fortnite. So that's what I'm doing in the choir.

1014
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: But Cup visit me on Instagram at Black Dress Comedy.

1015
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: That's where I'm really thriving. Twitters for revolutions. I don't

1016
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: have that kind of energy right now else, So insta

1017
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: check out Couples Therapy pod episode to drop every Tuesday.

1018
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. I wait, I have to know more about

1019
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: this Tea page situation. Was he nice? Was he kind?

1020
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: He didn't really interact with me? You know, he played

1021
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: Fortnite with like different guests, and then there would be

1022
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: breaks where there would be sketches and comedy and I

1023
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: did a little stand up. Um. You know, it's always

1024
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: in quotes now in choir, and none of us are

1025
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: doing the art we believe in anymore. I mean, can

1026
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: you imagine how bad we're gonna be when we finally

1027
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: get up in front of people who I did an

1028
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: outdoor show. I've only done one. Did it I did it,

1029
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: and uh, did you touch the mic to your lips?

1030
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: They gave us like separate mics covers, and uh, you know,

1031
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: everybody had mass and we're socially distance outside. It was

1032
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: in a big open park, so it had all the

1033
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: correct for the thing. But then you just remember that, like,

1034
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: oh man, there's a po on behind me, and like

1035
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: maybe we should just go do that, you know what

1036
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean? Like maybe we should just go watch frogs

1037
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: leap and like the whole in nature, Like I don't

1038
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: what the funk am I telling you about? You know,

1039
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,439
Speaker 1: my wife gets on my nerves, like, who the funk cares? Man?

1040
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: The world is dying and there's there's a beautiful scene.

1041
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Well we're doing our best. We're

1042
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: doing our best performing in ponds. You're performing in front

1043
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: of tea pain and neither one of us are happy

1044
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: about it. But this is this has been my mama

1045
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: told me. And uh, you can like and subscribe and

1046
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: do all the cool things you do the podcast. Thanks

1047
01:00:40,760 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: for listening by y'all. Chips in your qualibars, racist money versions,

1048
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: many turkey stuff I can't tell me. Governor