WEBVTT - Black Music Month QLS Classic: DJ Quik 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:04.080 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:06.880 episode was produced by the team at Pandora. 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:09.480 What up, y'all? 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:11.760 It's unpaid bill from Questlove Supreme. As you may have 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:14.120 seen throughout June, we are celebrating Black Music Month by 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:16.680 releasing an episode every day, So every day you either 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:19.639 here especially picked QLs Classic, and on Wednesdays we are 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:23.000 dropping new two part episodes Wayne Brady and the legendary 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:26.400 James Poyser, both of which were filmed in studio. Black 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:28.160 music is deeply important to me and has been an 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:31.040 influence throughout my entire career. It's also something to celebrating 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:34.080 here at QLs. DJ Quick joined QLs for an early 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.479 twenty nineteen episode. Quick is as charismatic as he is 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.120 funk in his conversation covering his career growth and passion 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:43.440 for music. Also look out for Quick's latest album, Chupacabra, 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:44.720 which is releasing this month. 0:00:53.640 --> 0:01:02.680 Suprema Suprema roh Cal supremea my role called Suprema Suck 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.240 Suck Subprema roll called. 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:10.000 Suprema Suck Suck Supremo roll call production. 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:15.200 Yeah greater than Yeah Andrew Young, Yeah. 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:16.280 I said it. 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:23.800 Supreme s something Suprema, role called Suprema South South Suprema 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:24.600 role call. 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:28.559 My name is Fante Yeah, and y'all might disagree. Yeah, 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:31.720 but my favorite quicks groove Yeah number. 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:40.200 Supreme up Sun something Supreme A, roll call subpremeau soun Supreme. 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:55.240 Roll calm sweet yeah, black, yeah, pussy Yeah. 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:56.800 Some SUPREMEA roll call Supreme Sun, Suprema. 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:59.120 Roll call my name Boss Bill. Yeah, and I'm no 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:03.760 donkey yeah because I know quick. Yeah, it's way too funky. 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:10.280 Roll call Supreme some something Supremo, roll call Suprema Son 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:12.239 Son Subpremo. 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:12.600 Roll call. 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:15.560 Yeah, and I'm in his town. 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:19.239 Yeah, that's DJ quick. Yeah, can we get that? 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:27.639 Roll call Supremo Supremo, roll call Supremo something something Suprema 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:28.440 roll call. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:32.639 I ain't no joke. Yeah, sometimes I'm funny. Yeah. When 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:34.919 I'm a pimp, I make records like yeah, bitch, better 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:35.680 have my money. 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:44.040 Roll call Supreme Suprema, roll call Supremo something Supremo, roll 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:52.680 Suprema something something Supremo, roll call Suprema Son Suprema. 0:02:51.800 --> 0:03:00.200 Roll call suck and Steve with the mic dropping you 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.239 just want to stay black. I want to say I 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:05.720 had that album and I had to listen to it 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:06.680 very quiet. 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:10.160 Yeah, moms, did you ever. 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:13.959 Quick punishment? I didn't have a quick didn't get me 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:15.880 in trouble. I'm surprised, but. 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:21.359 Yeah, because my mama loved Tonight like she loved Tonight, 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:26.560 Like man, if the record Tonight, Man, my mama loved Tonight. 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:29.560 Oh man, yeah, she loved Tonight. 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.799 But like so I bought the tape and I let 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.600 her just Tonight was the only thing she heard me 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.600 play because the first everything rest. 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:40.360 Oh yeah, I blame Sweet Black. 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:43.840 That was real low. I'm like, oh my god, Well 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.600 I'll be able to go nowhere. You know what's funny 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:49.760 about that record? Man, I wasn't gonna do an album. 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:53.520 I was producing this group called the House. Yeah, but 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:57.600 they were so righteous and so like hardcore. It was like, 0:03:57.760 --> 0:03:59.320 you know, people want to party to like, let's do 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:01.000 a couple of party records. So when I would like, 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:03.800 you know, I was just the producers like players, stay 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:10.240 in your place, just do the beats, We'll handle the lyrics, right, 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:12.520 I'm like, hey, cool man. So you know, he had 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:18.400 these big records, words like pestilence, and you know, it's 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:20.480 like I don't know, you know, I was like, man, 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:24.920 can we talk about eight ball? Like, so they did 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:28.080 a classic thing too, right? Yeah? Yeah, that sh it 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:31.160 was hot. Hey man, we flipped it right? Was that 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.440 was the good old days when the record companies used 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:37.400 to do pos send your check and you just going 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.840 to the studio where But yeah, man, it was that 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.200 was out of necessity that I did those records. 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:48.640 By the way, ladies and gentlemen, and we have one 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:51.599 of the greatest ever in the studio with us DJ Quick. 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:55.880 Anyway, I'm not doing any long support. 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:03.680 Man, d if when I wish this from day one, bro, Seriously, Okay, 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.400 I was gonna cut the superlatives down. 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:07.080 And all that stuff. 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:15.040 But wait, what was the word you were pests? Yeahatilist down. No, 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:20.680 but I will say that, uh, I mean, this is 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.000 beyond slept on because I don't even think it's slept 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:23.880 on because people. 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:26.240 Know, like if you know, you know, if you know 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:32.080 you know. But for me, I don't know any. 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:38.000 Producer this consistent with quality like far in their career. 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:42.000 I believe that Quick produces and makes records like it's 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:46.160 his first album, Like you can tell he actually still 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:49.800 cares about the quality product because usually like after the 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.159 I mean forget rappers with like the fourth and fifth 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.240 album usually by like the seventh or eighth, like they 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.920 you know, start to wane off or whatever, or they 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.840 rely on someone else's swag. 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:02.400 Yeah. 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:07.480 Yeah, and I have to say, like it is, it 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:15.160 is criminally uh insane to me that his name does. 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:15.680 Not come up. 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:20.800 I agree, great yeah and yeah and in his production game, 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:27.560 his patches, his chord structures, his production is everything, you know. 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:27.880 What I mean. 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.119 Look, I don't know many rappers that have had songs 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:33.159 with like entire fucking full string sections. 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:37.720 Like nobody does that, man, no one does. Nobody does that, 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:40.840 but quick, so thank you for it. I appreciate it. 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.960 I mean, I know I know people that are who 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:47.240 are underrated or whatever, who are under praised or whatever, 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.120 get tired of answering the question like how does it 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:52.839 feel to be under you know, like Tarik K's that question. 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:58.080 Like, but does it frustrate you? 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:01.840 Had all that it it did that people don't recognize 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.440 or when listener made like it. 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:10.440 Did, But now it's like I didn't. I kicked my 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:12.680 care out the window, like don't. I don't look for 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:14.920 that no more because I realized you have to have 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.720 like a Philip Drummond, like Dre had with you know, 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.240 Jimmy Ivan. You got to have the big daddy Warbucks 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.480 who will just keep throwing money at you whether you 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.480 win or lose, whether you're you know, succeeding or failing, 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:27.720 and who will take the losses with you. I never 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.520 had that person to invest, so I ended up having 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.720 to be independent and do it myself. And I just 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.960 refused to pay somebody to say good things about me 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:38.560 in the media's like or you know, quick, it's going 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:40.240 to be you know, here or there. I'll tell you 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:43.040 one one good thing though, and this is most recent. 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.559 This is how I know I'm not that underrated, because 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.840 the Jackson estate has been inviting me to really important 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:52.160 things lately, really like I went to Joe Jackson's memorial 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:57.160 and invited to Michael Jackson's sixtieth birthday party tomorrow at 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:01.320 Mandalay Bay, you know, per the Jackson Estates. Evidently I'm 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:02.360 you know, and I got a chance to talk to 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:06.240 Janet at the memorial and whatnot. Too yeah for you 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.920 to offer you Jimmy James Terry was hired me for that, 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:10.960 and I've hung out with some of the best people 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:14.400 like you know, uh, Jimmy James, Terry Lewis and pretty 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:16.640 much all of the time. Jesse Johnson is one of 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:18.640 my favorite people. We had him on the show recently. 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.400 I love Jesse. He's one of the greatest guitar players ever, 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:26.080 like he you know, you know, Quincy Jones. I've been 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.600 in the studio with you know, super great Colin Powell 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:33.079 even wow, you know, not that studio. I've been in 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:37.640 like a meeting. It was it was he was supposed 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.640 to be the first black president. But anyway, like when 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.319 I realized that I'm in the room with Colin Powell 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:47.199 and doctor Dre and Quincy Jones and Russell Simmons and 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.079 Sugar all at the same time, It's like I'm supposed 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.120 to be there, So I'm cool. I mean, you know, 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.480 maybe maybe I don't put the pomp poms up and 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.280 cheer enough of myself, but to me, like question, you know, 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:00.199 I'm still in the studio with buying new knee testsy 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:03.240 threes and teaching my guys how to record you know, 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.880 real analog and get a big sound that doesn't die, 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.319 you know what I mean, that doesn't date. That's where 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:11.360 I'm at with it all right, So. 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:18.440 For the one person out there that's listening to our podcast, 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:20.199 could you tell our audience. 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:21.360 Where were you born and raised? 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.120 This is the first question I always asked, Where were 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:27.800 you born and raised? 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:29.679 I was born. I was born in l A. But 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:31.480 we moved to Compton when I was five years old, 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.000 so I was technically raised in Compton, but I was 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:35.000 born in l A. 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:40.320 Okay, you know what were your What was your childhood 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:41.280 introduction to music? 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:45.560 Childhood introduction to music was my You know, I come 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.600 from a big family, like ten, eight sisters, one brother, 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:55.480 one of them kids. Where did you fall? 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:59.480 I'm the baby. I got all the you know, the 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:01.959 beast stuff like that. But no, you also got the 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.160 record collections. Yes I did, because I'm certain that the 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:04.800 trickle down. 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.160 Yeah, my sisters used to They used to have me 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:10.559 play their records for their boyfriends when they used to 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:12.640 come over, Like look what watch what he could do? 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.120 I couldn't even really talk. I was in diapers, but 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.120 I could go play Heaven must be like this off 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.719 the Ohio Players record because I knew it was on 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.280 this side of the record and it was this far in. 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.880 So I would drop needles and they loved it. Man, 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:29.160 I couldn't even really talk. You know. That was my thing. 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:30.960 And my mother, you know, she used to have us 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:34.520 listening to like the Impressions, Kurse Mayfield and Reatha Franklin 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:38.120 and you know all the you know Al Green all 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.319 that stuff. Like she was. She was heavy onto the 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.760 into soul funk and you know James Brown, R and 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:47.480 B all that stuff. Any of your other siblings musicians, Uh, 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:50.800 you know that my brother, my mother used to buy 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.920 him drum sets and he would just stab them with 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:58.439 the sticks. He was like I don't want to do this, 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:00.320 but I would get on him and do it. You did. 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:05.079 I played like a little quarter note beach. You know. 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:07.679 They was like it'd be like, get off some drums 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.439 and Perry drums. I was like, Perry's just trying to 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.000 destroy him, Like can I have them? No, get out 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:14.599 of here. It's like they didn't want to let me 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:16.760 shine with my music, but I found a way to 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:17.360 do it anyway. 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:23.640 Oh okay, So what was your record collection? Did you 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:27.560 somehow acquire your own or was it just like based on. 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:31.520 What I used to buy records. I started buying records 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:33.760 when I was like eight. You remember the first one 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:38.640 you caught. Your first record I bought was the forty 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:45.360 five of Chicks Lay Freak on Atlantic Records, Okay, and 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:48.559 it didn't stop. The second one I bought was around 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.080 the same time, was the forty five Not Just Needy 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:57.240 by Parliament Funkadelic, you know, and it started there then. 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:00.120 You know, that was before hip hop obviously, but I 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:02.840 was into all those records, like I'll buy Temptations records 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.560 and pretty much all the new black records that came out. 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.520 We had, you know, Compon had this small record record 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:12.720 store on Rosecrans and we used to go up there 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.360 and just you know, we used to buy records by sight, 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:17.120 you know what I mean, Like that looked like that's 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:20.360 a good record, the album cover by the album cover, 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:23.240 so you know them was the days and I collected. 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.120 I ended up That's how I ended up being a DJ. 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:28.080 I would by just keep buying records until I had 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:29.280 a bunch of records, you know. 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:33.640 So we even designated like black DJ or Backyard Party. 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.480 Absolutely bro we had you know, I grew up in 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.760 the Blood neighborhood, so all the crypt neighborhoods, them niggas 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:41.599 had the money, so we would go DJ some of 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.040 their parties and then get chased out of their neighborhood 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:50.200 when they realized that dangerous man. It was dangerous days 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.800 back then. We used to DJ and crip neighborhoods like 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:56.439 Palmer Block and you know mc nolly or whatever to 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.080 you know, because they had the money. And when they 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.320 realized who I was was like the neighborhood I was from, 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:07.240 they get the gathering around me looking crazy, even if 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:10.240 he was rocking the park, even if he was dat matters. Wow, 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.040 it was. It was weird back then. It's so territorial, 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.000 but the music transcended all that. It was crazy. So 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:22.760 how did how did you assuming that you play? How 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:26.800 many instruments do you play? I played piano, I play drums, percussion. 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:30.080 I just bought a violin, but I don't know if 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:34.000 I'm gonna get into that. I play, you know, just 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:35.760 bought a little you know, try it out, just to 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.120 see see if I could, you know, hold the bowl right. 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:39.720 And you know, you know what's weird. 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:46.640 I'm skipping to your record deal. But you know, one 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:50.439 that profile really pimped you out to be like the 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:54.840 Warming band. I mean, you're basically Prince aut this motherfucker 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:59.760 and hip hop. But why wasn't that even exploited. 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.800 Yeah, I don't know if if Jimmy what was his name, 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:07.240 Corey Arlins Steve, I don't know if Corey Corey was 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.160 just into the music, like at first he didn't get it. 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:12.719 It was really the Dave Masster h the A and 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:14.560 R man who signed me because he was based over 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:16.960 here on the West and he knew what my record 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:18.880 was in the streets because everybody was talking about it. 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:21.720 So he was the one who champion me getting that 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:23.680 deal and I got a big deal, million dollar deal 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:27.480 in all this good shit. But Corey was like, you know, hey, 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.160 you're selling records. Just keep doing what you're doing. You know, 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:32.520 you want to come see my apartment in Queen's you 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:34.560 know whatever they was in New York, you know, And 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:38.080 I hadn't been, so, I mean, they didn't exploit that, 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.960 and I don't think I played it up, but I 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:41.560 knew that it. 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.000 Really had no clue because it wasn't to like maybe 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.760 rhythm atalism. Yeah that I realized like, oh wait, I'm 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:52.080 playing the basic Yeah. I just thought, like you know, 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:55.240 back then, I would at least for the first two records. 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:57.840 I didn't know that you were self produced and doing 0:14:57.880 --> 0:14:58.760 all that stuff yourself. 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:03.600 I was. It came from just not having people. I 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.960 didn't have relationships with musicians back then, so I would 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.080 just learn how to play the part. Like if I 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:11.240 hear a baseline in my head and it's it's it's 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.600 you know, it's it's nothing genius. It's just if I 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:16.120 hear James Brown based down on a baseline that I like, 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.040 I learned how to play that and then expand on 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:22.000 that and go somewhere different modulated play than another key. 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.280 So you know, it was basically, you know, it was 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:27.680 a you know, a means to an end. I didn't 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.760 have the facilities and I didn't have the musicians at 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:31.520 that point, so I would just play some of that 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:32.160 stuff myself. 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.600 How did you How did profile find you? Being on 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:37.520 the West coast? How did the East Coast label find it? 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:41.680 Just opened up an office on Sussett Boulevard, Hollywood, and 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:46.280 my cassette. I was selling my cassette out of my 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:49.120 underground tape, the Red tape, out of pretty much by 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:50.840 word of mouth, like people will call me be like, 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:52.520 hey man, they want ten of your tapes over here 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:54.600 on you know, one hundred and thirty ninth who am 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.240 So I'll just get in the car, go sell ten tapes, 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.120 come back with a hundred bucks, you know, can't it 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:02.000 make more copy of it? And then it started getting crazy, 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.360 like man, we want they want a hundred tapes over here. 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:07.600 I'm like, dude, you know, as long as a hundred 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:12.760 tapes with the King would double cassette, you know, we 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:14.360 had that. But then I ended up getting one of 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.520 the little from the we had this and I love 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.760 the facilities in l A. Back then, there was a 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:24.160 record pool called what was it called They're gonna hate 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.600 me cording traits, gonna hate me for this, uh Impact 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:30.560 record Pool. Impact used to have a cassette duplicator and 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:32.400 they let me use it. So I have my little 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.840 master tape and I'd have the three so I was 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:38.000 just put in, just let it roll, flip, go do 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:41.040 it again. And I was handwriting the you know, the 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:42.880 stickers and put it on, yeah, the labels, and I 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.880 was really I didn't realize I was distributing my own product. 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.400 What was your what was on the mixtapes? The what 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.160 what was on the mixtapes? Pretty much some parts of 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.800 my first album like Tonight was on there. I think 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.480 Border Raised too. You know, I just started like sampling 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:01.400 stuff and happened. You know, I had this task have 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:04.040 four tracks, so you know I was in there getting 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.440 I was multi tracking, you know what I mean, And 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.840 you know doing I came from the you know, listening 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.760 to like mixed Master Spade and Toddy T and King T. 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.600 Those are all the guys that we wanted to immolate 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:19.240 and be like in competent yep, pretty much the way 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:21.320 they was doing it, like you know on cassettes with 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:25.400 the vibe. We all wanted that reverb, that vibe box colleague. 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:29.560 So I have family out here in uh Pasadena, so 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:33.200 I sometimes visit for the summer, and I remember the 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:36.480 summer of eighty five, no one on the West coast 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:39.639 knew what the show and Lottie Dotty was did. They 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.080 were like, well, I meant like my cousins didn't know 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:43.920 because I'm trying to tell them about Slick Ricky Ducky 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:47.480 Fresh and They're like yeah, and but they were like 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:51.320 no man batteran And so when I would go home 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:52.640 back to Philly. 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.360 I was like, y'all, y'all know about batteran hell, can't 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:55.800 stop it. 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:59.960 They were just like no, But they couldn't relate because 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:04.320 the battle Rom was the was Chief Daryl Gates figuring 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.800 out how to destroy houses and write it off because 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:09.719 they used to back before the Battle Ram, they used 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:13.160 to to the drug houses. They used to attach chains 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:17.360 to the iron you know, the iron the iron doors, 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:19.119 you know, in the bars that we used to get 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:21.480 so they would you know, pull a tow truck up 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.159 attached to it and punch out and snatch the door 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:26.680 off and run in there the battle roum. And but 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.320 by the time they got in there, because you know niggas, 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:32.399 no niggas can hear them outside setting up. You know, 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:34.760 the niggas is in there flushing the drugs, you know 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:36.600 what I mean, and getting rid of shit and breaking 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:39.000 out the back door and running whatever. So they figured 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:40.720 the battle Ram would cut that time off. They start 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:42.919 catching niggas running up in their house with that batter um. 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:45.040 Niggas shocked and see a tank in they fucking house, 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.160 cocaine with a tank in your. 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:55.680 What was the first piece of equipment that you acquired 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:56.399 for your. 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:02.480 A cast It was a Cassio Easy, It was a 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:04.320 c Z one on one. I want to say, like 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:06.920 the little white one with the like the little twenty 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:09.440 or thirty something keys, And I used to just sit 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:12.480 up and practice on that, like practice baselines and you know, 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:14.959 little piano parts or whatever. But it was like nineteen 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.840 eighty two. It was the cassio didn't have a drummer 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:19.840 scene on it too, or I had the little just 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:27.480 little rhythms where it's like sixteen beat all the precepts. Yeah, 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.160 you know, but how would you utilize like how would 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:36.680 you make your mixt sound? Yeah, yeah, you already know. 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.760 Pause mixing was everything, and you had to have a 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:43.399 certain kind of yo, yeah, let out, yeah, swing when 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:45.720 you let up. It wasn't just you couldn't be lazy 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:48.000 with it because your mix or ruined. You know. And 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:51.240 back then, if you did a pause mixed right, yours 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.520 would become like the gospel of that song, Like say 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.879 you did Heartbreaker by Roger Troutman and Zap. If you 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:00.760 pause mixed it right and distributed that, everybody think that 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:03.560 you you know, that was the version of it. You 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:05.000 know what I mean, if you did it right, it'll 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:08.600 become a legendary mix. You know. Really, I mean we 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:12.320 were we're so underachieving back then, Like we had a 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:16.480 low parameter for now, but everybody talks about the mix 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:21.359 Hey man, Sanuel, Yeah, what was it, Samuel, cassette deck, 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:27.880 Sue Fisher, Fisher, so you know, and I was amazed 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:30.439 the first time I hooked up, because you know, back 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:32.200 then we could. I couldn't afford two turntables, so I 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:34.360 had one turntable, and to try to make it sound 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:36.520 like too, I had two cassette decks, so I would 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:38.920 record half of the program or whatever I was doing 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:42.440 on one cassette and then bring that cassette back into 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:44.800 the mixer and go to a second cassette while the 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:48.360 turntable was live. So I was overdubbing. I was learning 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:50.600 how to overdeub with two cassette decks and one turntable. 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:52.960 And that was you know, you you did what you 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:59.560 had to do back then. Like you know, so from 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:02.680 the demo tape, the red tape you made that guy, Yeah, 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:05.600 they got profile got it from off the streets and 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:10.040 we had I just started working with like AMG and 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:12.639 was trying to bring uh the guy second and then 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:16.200 and and whatnot from the neighborhood, you know, just to 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:20.240 do little local stuff around you know, La and abroad 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:23.800 and a coordney Tracy, who was like my pay with 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:26.720 my friends. At that point, they got in touch with Profile. 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:29.920 Profile already heard of me, so they started negotiating a 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:33.480 deal for me. But Fred Manial from Select Records was like, hey, 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:35.400 I want to be in that, you know, I give 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:37.440 him thirty five that They was like, Profile was like, 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:39.600 I would give him forty five, and they was like quick, 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:42.320 just I'm like take it, take it. Come on forty five. 0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:47.960 Are y'all talking about forty five thousand dollars? I already have. 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:50.280 I already had that check. Spin I'm finna get a Jetta, 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:55.680 you know, I don't think I'm finna spend it, you know. 0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:59.400 But it ultimately went up and up and up until 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:01.960 it was like, you know, over one hundred thousand dollars, 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:04.080 and then it was like, Okay, that's just some bullshit. 0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:05.560 This ain't this is a dream, this is a lie. 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:07.720 You know. Niggas like us don't get that lucky. You know, 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:10.840 I come from welfare and hard knocks and shit. Niggas 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:13.960 stealing my equipment and my sister burning it up, being 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:16.400 mad jealous of me, like you ain't gonna be successfulfucker, 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:20.000 throw my turntables in the firtplace. Yeah. Wow, man, My 0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:24.359 sister Jackie, she's gonna hear this too. She taught me 0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:26.280 how to sell cracks. So her thing was if I 0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:29.040 wasn't loyal to her, she would destroy everything that I 0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:31.760 bought in the dope game. So she and she would 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:33.160 do it in front of the niggas in the hood, 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:35.080 like that was the only bad part of my growing up. 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:36.879 She would show off in front of them niggas who 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:42.160 was like oh. Usually as an example, yeah, yeah, exactly, 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:44.840 like checking you know, come watch what I'm finna do. Okay. 0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:49.320 So a common element amongst a lot of the people 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:53.040 that we interview on the show, especially with producers, especially 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:56.160 with great producers, is that they start out as DJs, 0:22:57.000 --> 0:23:01.680 but they're also DJs and high pressure situations. So we 0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:06.720 noticed that uh, Jimmy Jam, who each week had to 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:11.440 entertain at least a crowd of six hundred people, like 0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:14.440 no song, could be a loser in the bunch, like 0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:16.040 he the pressure to keep the pressure. 0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:19.560 That pressure gets you right and of course right. 0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:21.960 And then Doctor D's story of like if I play 0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:23.960 the wrong song or the wrong mix and they're gonna 0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:27.400 start shooting up in here. So it's almost like being 0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:30.199 a DJ in a high pressure situation where lives might 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:33.639 be on the line, makes you a better producer because 0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:37.480 you automatically know what's going to work. So what was 0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:40.840 your what was your template as far as working on 0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:42.480 your your your first record? 0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:46.760 I wanted to do, I mean, because of course we 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:49.840 grew up listening to the album cuts from Deaf Jam, 0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:55.119 like I Feel Good about Candy, you know, even like 0:23:55.280 --> 0:24:02.119 Chuck Stanley, like the R and B stuff that let 0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:04.240 you I'm gonna sample that, never gonna let you go. 0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:09.119 It's hot. But you know, I never listening listening to 0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:11.960 listening to those records, like even if you didn't play 0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:14.080 them at a club or at your party, you had 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:18.119 to kind of like know what was going on my 0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:21.879 chimpleate was I figured? You know, I was really into reggae, 0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:24.399 like the Sugar Mine Nod and Sister nine C and 0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:27.040 you know, even more than just by everybody's by reggae. 0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:30.159 You know, it's it's a bigger story, you know, a 0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:33.560 lot more to my God. So you know, listening growing 0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:35.280 up listening to all that what the Bomb Bomb and 0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:37.960 all that I wanted to do a record that just 0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:42.399 pretty much show people what my great range of music was. 0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:47.240 I wrote that kind of from scratch. I say, like 0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:55.639 there was a there was a token reggae. Reggae was 0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:58.200 big and Compton it was yeah. 0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:04.600 Around a big Ducky like the Cox family, Ducky Dave 0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:07.119 sheltering you know right now and they stars now they 0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:09.760 used to. They're from like fruit Town, the neighborhood across 0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:11.920 the street from us. Dave is like in the in 0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:16.320 the Straight Out of Compton movie, Ducky security for Rick 0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:20.439 Ross right now, David security for who is Dave security 0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:26.360 for nowadays? By day Dave David Cox from Fruetown, He's 0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:30.080 secure everybody. He You know, these guys used to play 0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:32.800 all the reggae in the hood, like they knew the 0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:35.760 reggae stuff. So we got our reggae chase from them, 0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:39.159 you know what I mean. But it was, believe it 0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:41.320 or not, it was people used to be days when 0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:45.280 we just played all reggae all day everything. So I 0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:47.920 wanted that, all them different elements, all this stuff my 0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:49.720 mother used to play. I wanted all that on my 0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:50.320 first album. 0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:52.800 Yeah, because I noticed, like you simple, because my mother. 0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:55.639 She was a big Emotions fan, and so I was surprised. 0:25:57.640 --> 0:25:59.399 I was like, man, what made him go for that? One? 0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:07.240 Was the one three? What is that? What's that? Shuffle? Shuffle? Yeah? 0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:09.760 It was it was shuffle. That was a hot record 0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:11.760 to us in the day. It was the first thing 0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:13.879 after the best of My Love. It was like, this 0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:16.760 is dope, and I just you know, I've been I 0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:20.640 was influenced by Blowfly. I ain't gonna lie and blow 0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:25.080 Flying corrupted me, you know, and I'll speed for it 0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:29.560 to say that. I didn't realize how vulgar my album 0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:33.040 was until I start having kids. I can't play Sweet 0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:42.000 Black Pussy around certain people. I wasn't born to raising 0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:48.159 con version, maybe because Pussy was funny and everybody in 0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:52.119 my click life was like the one. It's an attention 0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:55.080 grabber I was. I wrote that at nineteen, so you know, 0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:57.280 obviously I had only slept with like two or three people, 0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:02.840 but street people, you know, sweet and black black one 0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:08.560 another that black black ones Sweet. If they got nothing here, 0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:11.399 I don't care talk about it. Yeah, that's they keep 0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:13.399 you coming back, that's how you walking down the street. 0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:17.000 Like shout out to Tina Farris okay are you We're 0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:20.960 we're talking about Sweet Black Pussy on my tour. 0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:25.040 Managers like you better men weel. I didn't realize that 0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:28.040 it was times I was, like you said, like the pressure, 0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:31.520 the pressure or DJ. It was nights where I would 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:34.720 forget to do that record in my lineup and really 0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:37.440 like my start right like the black girls are just 0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:44.080 me so bad, like every every woman. 0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:47.000 That's a DJ quick fan. That's the first song they mentioned. 0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:51.399 Man, I didn't realize I made like the staple record 0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:57.159 for the black woman movement. I had no compliments, you know, 0:27:59.880 --> 0:28:03.480 but I had this thing, y'all. I would certain people 0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.920 who got in trouble listen to my record authentically and 0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:09.439 they gave me a story about it, like they got punished, 0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:12.160 they got whooping. I would let them get that lig back. 0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:19.880 I'd be like, you can, but I let them get 0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:20.359 their lig back. 0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:24.639 It would have been worth the punishment. Man, What was 0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:27.399 the What was sample clearance is? Like back then, sample 0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:31.440 clearance is because of Bis Marquis. It was a gray area, 0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:35.200 like we were sampling crazy before it got legal. When 0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:37.720 you know, back then you'd had to clear the record 0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:42.360 through publishing, through master usage and license it and you know, 0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:45.800 but we was like, we ain't got no instrumentalists. This 0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:48.040 instrumental is dope. We're gonna put this on the tape. 0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:48.800 We're gonna rap to it. 0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:51.840 That's what it is. And people liked it when they 0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:54.120 figured it out, Like all the people who were sampling 0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:57.680 figured it out, they start making new laws. You know 0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:00.160 what I mean to, you know, to to to stop 0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:02.800 that shit getting junctions against our records and whatnot. But 0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:06.240 my thing was, if I blow y'all record up and 0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:08.720 y'all assume me, we still win, y'all still gonna get paid. 0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:10.360 I ain't gonna I can't run off with y'all money. 0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:13.160 Y'all money is being collected over here, and it's gonna 0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:14.880 take six to nine months to get to me anyway. 0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:17.600 You know, we work out a deal before that's over, 0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:20.320 and y'all good, y'all get y'all split. Betty Right when 0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:23.000 I sampled tonight and didn't clear it, I met her 0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:29.920 in Atlanta doing freaknickow wait intimate the intimate connections? You clear, 0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:33.040 I didn't clear none of that, but I had. I 0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:36.920 gave them. They was all publishing dexit designees. In other words, 0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:39.200 when they come after you you just keep their money 0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:43.080 there for them. I didn't know until the second time 0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:45.680 I start cleaning samples, like motherfucker. The first one, it 0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:47.400 was like we was just using the records that we 0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:51.520 liked and had. And when I met her, she was like, 0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:53.760 she said, you know, you made me a whole lot 0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:57.040 of money, don't you. I was like, I'm a fan. 0:29:57.160 --> 0:29:59.000 I love you, like we grew up to you, like 0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:01.480 you know, whatever, whatever you want. She was like, okay, no, 0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:03.600 I'm good baby, and you're a lot cuter in person. 0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:19.040 Then on your record, lady, she made she made tens 0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:20.640 of thousands of dollars off of that record. 0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:23.120 After that record, like after your first record was says 0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:24.920 I read in this It was then interview did in 0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:27.600 the source This was guys years ago. You said there 0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.680 was a record you did between the first one and 0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:32.680 way too funky and you scrap you like, no, I 0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:33.120 can't put this. 0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:35.280 It was it was starting out to be like weak 0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:38.320 and the records like back then, like you you throw 0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:40.800 away records you know ain't gonna work again. The pressure 0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:44.040 of a producer sometimes, you know, if you're if. 0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:48.680 You're self continued unit, who's your sounding board? I mean 0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:50.800 besides the board. You know your boys. I don't know 0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:52.440 if you roll with the crew that's like, yeah, that's 0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:56.240 dope every time you do something. So who's the sounding 0:30:56.360 --> 0:31:00.800 board that you trust that's gonna say like that ain't work. 0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:03.960 Yeah, like I don't like that sample, or you should 0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:04.560 not this. 0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:06.800 Greg Jesse Greedy. 0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:07.000 Greg. 0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:09.520 He was like my first manager. He's the one who 0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:12.600 actually helped facilitate my first deal and helped to get 0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:15.080 second and none their deal. Actually got them their deal, 0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:17.959 and AMG got him his deal and second to none. 0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:21.760 Them never admitted they to them. They were already the producers. 0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:25.560 They told they did an interview on the source. I 0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.200 was all happy. My thing was we we like the 0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.200 other n w A we cool slapping hands with him. 0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:34.160 Then niggas gon do interviews by theyself and be like, yeah, quick, 0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:38.280 he worked for us. We did all the beat, we 0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:42.600 put that in sp right. So he helped all of them, 0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:45.600 does helped everybody. He would be the one be like, no, man. 0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:47.760 He got a high pitch voice too. He'd be like, no, man, 0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:51.960 that ships why you can't even play the tempo is wrong? 0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.000 You know what I'm saying. So he was right. So 0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:56.200 we tried to stay within these tempos that worked. 0:31:56.960 --> 0:32:00.520 You know, Okay, before I get to the history of 0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:07.360 quicks grooves, all fifty eleven of them. I mean that 0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:10.400 to me is like I wish you had the greatest 0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:14.720 hits of just your quick groove. Yeah, yeah, because it's 0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:17.760 like I look forward to those, Yeah, and I know 0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:19.600 a quick album right Yeah, it's like. 0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:21.480 Oh, what's quick group? Gonn sound like this time? Yeah? 0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:28.800 Which is weird because you went super ape shit on 0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:33.120 the rose Krans groove. Yeah, what was on your mind 0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:35.040 with if you heard the Rosekrans groove? 0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:36.360 I haven't heard that dog. 0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:40.520 He just I mean we stretched out each one pushes 0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:41.320 then envelope further. 0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:48.160 But I Crouch. I had Kenneth Crouch, Dave forming on guitar, 0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:54.640 David Balfour on keys as well. You had a bass 0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:58.920 player in there, my drummer, Keith Ross Peanut. So we 0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:01.720 was just playing around stuff and I just got the 0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:03.840 you know, I just got my favorite keyboard back. Because 0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:05.600 I used to have a profit. That was my secret weapon, 0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:07.000 Like when I was working on all Eyes on me, 0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:10.080 I can recreate like what's your phone number? The Prince 0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:13.320 stuff on my profit. But back then they didn't work 0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:15.080 that well because they was old. You bought them used, 0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:17.760 they was abused. They stayed in the shop, you know. 0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:20.560 So I just got my profit back of profit six 0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.200 the new one. I just started going back through what 0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:26.200 I used to remember about how that keyboard worked, and 0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:28.760 we just kept building on that little you know that 0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:30.920 four on the floor just go whatever you call it 0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:34.120 techno beat or whatever. But we wanted it to be 0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:36.160 spacious and have you know, and have fun. And Ken 0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:38.480 of Crouch just takes everything. 0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:43.480 Changing kids and modulating here the relative miners and all states. 0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:45.920 That's kend of Crouch. 0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:50.040 Following my following on the keys Man before, just because 0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.640 you mentioned it before, I get it too, dope, Hearts 0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:52.960 of men. 0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:58.959 How did you clear or we cleared that? Yes, we did. 0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:02.880 That was gonna make him some money. That was one 0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.520 of the first hip hop workerds he ever cleared. Yeah. 0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:09.760 I was gonna say we became kind of cool because 0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:11.399 of that, because he liked the way it was done. 0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:16.160 I flipped I flipped the back the other way. I 0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:18.839 was like, I was like, yeah, quick as god. 0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:22.960 Yeah, here's the thing. I didn't know that that was 0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:27.799 until you told me. For the Prince episode, I'm so mad. 0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:30.160 I never knew. I can't believe that we get it back. 0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:32.640 I did it the other way and Prince douget. Also, 0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:37.160 that's a song off of George Clinton's Big Band record, 0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.040 Fred Wesley and the Horny Horns blow for Me too, 0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:48.360 for you that's the okay, Yeah, that's that looped with 0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:53.560 Prince with you know, basically the baseline I wrote, but 0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.120 the drums is You're getting a little bit too smart 0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:59.200 Detroy Emeralds, De Troy Emeralds. And also people don't know 0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:03.919 it was on a rare version of Yeah forty five. 0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:05.680 Did I ever tell the Dyler story about it? 0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:07.319 Yeah? You told me the story. 0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:10.920 But all right, real quick, all right, so we're recording 0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:17.640 the Light yeah, common, And I thought Dylan was trying to. 0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:26.080 Not ghost me weapons when what's the term used, blow 0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:26.680 your way. 0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:30.359 When I was trying to psych you out and saying 0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:31.040 it was one thing. 0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:33.600 But I thought he was trying to play me on. 0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:35.680 I'm like, it's toy amos. He says no, no, I'm 0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:38.719 so higher players. And I was like feeling some sort 0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:41.200 of way for like three hours. I'm like, why is 0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:44.640 the motherfucker alignment? Like it's fucking the joy animals. He's like, nah, man, 0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:47.440 it's Ohio Players. Because I was taking the sample information 0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:50.680 down to give to the label and he's like, Ohio Players. 0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:54.120 And the thing is he didn't know that that was 0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:56.920 Troy Emeralds. And later we found out that Armine had 0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.200 just put that drum break on the five. 0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:01.800 So why would he do that? Like, I mean, I 0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:04.880 know it was Westbound Records. Thing. The producer did that 0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:07.480 and put the tag, the drum tag from I know 0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:08.040 that armor. 0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:11.080 The man that owns Westbound Records put that tag at 0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:14.160 the beginning. I don't know if I guess maybe for forty. 0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:17.279 Fives their radio. Probably for radio. 0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:21.960 Yeah, like, oh, that's right because there's instant talking at 0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:22.640 the very top. 0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:25.480 Of the thing exactly, and you need the little tag 0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:28.759 seven seconds. That still works now, j still do that 0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:30.520 put they put an instrument in front of some of 0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:33.080 my records when they just start on the one and lyrics, 0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:34.399 they'll they'll put that tag on there. 0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:38.320 So okay, we already said that quick number three that 0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:38.839 was mine. 0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:42.640 That was I mean, I like, but edited, I edited 0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:46.040 it was it was actually five minutes forty two seconds 0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:48.080 to shorten it, and I cut it by tape, you know, 0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:51.239 you record it and spice it, shorten it. But that's 0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:53.719 my man, Robert Bacon, who's one of the best base 0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:57.920 yeahs asked you about him, man, Like, what's I've never like, like, 0:36:58.000 --> 0:36:59.800 what's he? What's his deal? What's he doing? What you 0:36:59.880 --> 0:37:03.160 do on? Now? He's out with Sha Ka Khan? And 0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:05.719 how did you guys first look up high see my boy? 0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:07.840 He introduced me to him. He was a session player 0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:10.680 out here from Detroit and uh he played on Hot 0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:15.000 Seas first record Scanders. Yeah, And I was like, man, 0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:17.120 who was this dude? Like this dude back then we 0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:23.799 was looking for the next standing guitar man. Doctor Drake 0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:25.920 kicked the door in with having real musicians playing on 0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:28.680 your records, Like, dude, we gotta have musicians. And who 0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:30.680 did I end up picking for the first quack grew 0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:35.439 staying the guitar man wasn't nowhere around it? And where 0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:37.680 was he from? What was in his history? He's right 0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:39.400 around the corner from Dre. He grew up around the 0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:41.880 corner from Dre. I think on Town Town Avenue and 0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:45.360 and industrial comptons like Compton in l A like a 0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:48.080 borderline where it's like a little bougie. It's like, actually 0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:50.960 cool over there, likema village. I want to see me 0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:53.440 now or back then? I think he's still over there. 0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:54.120 I think it's Mama. 0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:54.560 No. 0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:59.160 I meant was it gentrified right now? It was back 0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:02.440 then I didn't had the ratchet part over here, then 0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:04.680 had the bougie part right across the street, and now 0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:07.400 it's all turning bougie. Yeah, it is. A property is 0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:08.560 so expensive over there right now. 0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:12.200 It's crazy after when you went into Way too funky? 0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:14.200 Were you by the time, because I mean the first 0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:16.799 record was a success. Yeah, were you making money then? 0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:17.600 Like were you straight? 0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:19.920 Yeah? When I got my first royalty check, I got 0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:23.040 it nine months after because I I this was my thing. 0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:25.479 I read that book This has this business of music, 0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:29.160 so I was already versed in how this publishing, these points, 0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:31.920 what percentages are, and I was happy to be up there. 0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:34.520 They was like, quick, you got twelve points on your record, 0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:37.759 do you know Michael Jackson got like eighteen twelve or 0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:40.400 sixteen or eighteen points? So that put you in a 0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:43.160 whole different class. And I was like, it's all sound good, 0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:45.480 you know, to the check get here, you know what 0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:48.520 I mean? And I got my first royalty check and 0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.480 it was like six figures and I just relaxed. I 0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:53.480 was shooting music video for I think we was shooting 0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:56.520 quick as the name, and my man's Tracy and Courtney 0:38:56.560 --> 0:38:58.600 came up here and had me signed the check and 0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:04.719 I was like, She's like, whoa, that's a house that's 0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:10.640 motorcycles to Jedis And I did buy that Jedi. I 0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:13.839 gave it to but you know, I was like, yeah, 0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:15.480 this is this is what I'm going to be doing 0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:18.000 for the rest of my life. Wow, you know. But unfortunately, 0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:21.600 you know, hanging out with my man's second to none. 0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:25.200 You know, the gang thing was like kind of prevalent, 0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:26.719 and I was trying to downplay it, like I want 0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:27.920 to be a producer. I don't want to be this, 0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:30.440 you know where we came from. But you know, these 0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:32.560 guys they played it up a little bit. And we 0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:35.120 went to Denver and these guys throw a bottle in 0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:37.400 the audience and hurt some kids. So I get sued. 0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:40.640 Now I'm on trial. So my whole thing is bittersweet. 0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:43.560 It's like melancholy, like I'm happy, but I got to 0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:44.120 go to court. 0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:49.520 I'm looking at some jail times, please, because even to 0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:52.600 this day when I go to Denver, it's just like 0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:55.840 that's the only thing my reference. 0:39:56.640 --> 0:40:00.320 So first of all, what is what was touring? 0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:00.480 Like? 0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:03.120 How much of that song was autobiographical? 0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:05.880 It was the whole record was the truth. It was 0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:10.040 super dangerous because at that point I didn't know that 0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:13.320 there were other factions of gangs in cities that we 0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:17.200 had never been to, and they was waiting on us. Niggas. Wow, 0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:20.360 it was guns. It was shootouts to the point it 0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:23.080 became so frequent that after a while we wasn't even 0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:25.319 scared no more. It's like, yeah, they' gonna shoot to night. 0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:27.000 Sometimes they didn't shoot it be like fuck it. You know, 0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:29.440 get some groupies go back to the channel cake. So 0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:32.640 you be on stage, not knowing if it's gonna jump on. 0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:34.520 You can see them, they'll be in the audience and 0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:36.680 they'll be the only ones that's not dancing. They just 0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:41.640 like right, you know, just that weird shit, you feel it. 0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:45.640 But these guys they threw a they threw a forty 0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:48.320 Back then you could have props on the stage, like 0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:51.200 empty forty ounce bottles and shit, you know it's part 0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:53.759 of your stage shit. You know the fake trash can 0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:57.120 and the street light and whatever. And one of the guys, 0:40:57.160 --> 0:40:58.759 one of the members of this group, he threw a 0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:01.800 bottle into the audience had some crips and it didn't 0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.719 hit them, it hit some little kids. It broke and 0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:10.279 hit kids. So already quick concept back was a skating rink. 0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:15.080 It was cool, it was all ages, and I thought 0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:16.759 this was in the club. No, no, it was a 0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:19.680 skating rink. But what he did, by him throwing that 0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:22.239 bottle into the audience, it let me know that this 0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:24.600 guy is gonna be a liability. And I had to 0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:28.319 limit my you know, then I hate to go here, 0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:31.239 but you know, everybody got their little bad story when 0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:33.800 it comes to this hip hop ship, and my man's 0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.839 was they were just self destructive, you know what I mean, 0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:38.919 and got me in trouble and I had to ride 0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:41.080 for that and people used to ask them. I was like, 0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:42.759 why y'all didn't come to support me when I went 0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:46.240 to the trial. Their whole ship was we don't do police. 0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:50.000 It's like, bro y'all so hard and so cool, y'all 0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:53.279 trying to ruin my career. You know, how long did 0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:58.359 it take you to learn that? Lesson was done immediately quick. Fact, 0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:02.560 there's a lot of the authorize like a decade. And 0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:05.160 it's funny because I don't have no like we was 0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:09.720 kids back then, but right now, like look he drinking. 0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:12.200 He got threatened by the same guy right and he 0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:13.680 was like, I want to punch this is a this's 0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:19.120 an R and B singer, But he wanted But he's 0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:20.719 just a weird old He's like, you know, some people, 0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:23.560 it's just weird though, like you know, you know, you know, 0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:28.160 so is it easy to say no? Yeah? And if 0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:33.440 I can just finish the touring. That case cost me 0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:37.400 one hundred and thirty five thousand dollars to fight it 0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:40.080 and to pay off the suits. And my check that 0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:43.000 I got was like two hundred grand man, So everything 0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:46.440 that I she just went to fighting this fucking case 0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:49.120 and then I had to pay taxes after that. So 0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:54.040 it taught me that you knows, niggas ain't got your 0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:57.000 best interests at heart. If they if they ain't the 0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:59.480 kind of people that who like insurance and you know, 0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:01.840 keeping your copa setic, you can't have them around you 0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:03.840 because they they will bring you down easily. 0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:05.680 We're all so simple, We're all those that were like 0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:08.640 like KK and I see, like we're all s Is 0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:09.600 touring with me right now. 0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:16.040 Kk Is. You know he's you know they you know, 0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:18.080 every time I talk about them, guys, I should say 0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:19.800 no comment. Every time I talk about him, they go 0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:22.560 public and be like, nah, we told y'all hating on us. 0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:25.560 It's like, bro, y'all did all the wrong things. And 0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:27.879 I think that's why they didn't become successful. They don't 0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:31.239 have to like record it's not bad, it's not bad, 0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:33.279 but you got to promote it, you know. And they 0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:36.080 didn't go out on the tours and really promote those records. 0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:38.560 And they talked about the record company. These niggas fucked 0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:40.719 us and we got a bad deal. It's like, y'all 0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:44.600 can't come into this business, stop smoking, fucking wet and 0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:48.360 get in the studio and make the records. And you 0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:50.600 know what I mean, trying to gang bang. What's this 0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:53.759 big East East coast part? You know, stop that ship, 0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:59.120 like get the money and I'm they're suffice it to say. 0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:03.279 Somebody offered them three million dollars bro and they turned 0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:09.120 it down and code man, he was Illuminati, Okay, nod. 0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:13.920 They were offered a significant million dollars back then, back 0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:17.799 in nineteen ninety three, they did a soundtrack. We did 0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:21.640 a song for the above the Rim soundtrack. They mean 0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:29.360 to turn Yeah, Yeah, you a illuminati. Wow, Wow, I 0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:32.000 can't believe it. I was like, wow, Like, man, y'all 0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:35.239 could be rich. Y'all good songwriters. I know y'all good 0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:38.279 at heart, but it ain't really nothing I can say 0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:41.840 cool because I just watched them ruin a lot of things. Like, 0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:44.719 you know, they didn't really want it. Nah, No, that's 0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:46.680 what somebody said. They were scared of money. They like quick, 0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:49.000 that's money. Scared some people are they don't even know it. 0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:55.080 Scared of success. Man. 0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:58.239 One of my favorite productions of yours, Danny Boy Come 0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:01.120 when I called Bro Bro talking about. 0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:06.120 It, I'm just saying, I forget now, but we need 0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:08.799 to go back. If my introduction to Sugar and Death 0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:11.480 Row was song second and None didn't mean to Turn 0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:13.600 you on. That was my first dealings with you know, 0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:17.640 Jimmy Ivan and the great company of Interscope Records, in 0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:20.239 that whole system, which I totally love and I still 0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:22.799 think is the greatest West Coast record label of all time. 0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:27.360 But they you know, that was when the deal was offered, 0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:29.520 bro and I couldn't believe that anybody would turn that 0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:32.400 deal down. But Danny Boy was the second project I 0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:36.959 did in that system, and it was for compilations Murder. 0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:38.920 It was the case after you know, just all this 0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:41.319 stuff happened so fast, right, that was like a year 0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:43.719 later after my record that was ninety two, you know, 0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:46.200 ninety three, I think I want to say ninety three 0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:48.840 is when it came out. But you know, Sugar approached 0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:51.239 me to do something for his new signing, Danny Boy, 0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:53.799 who I thought sounded like a lot of a lot 0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:56.120 like my favorite R and B singer at the time, 0:45:56.160 --> 0:46:02.680 which was Stokely's A no brainer. I sat with Michael Henderson, Yes, 0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:09.840 I love you, and he cleared it two million. I 0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:19.080 just did that aramatic baseline, you know, B A B 0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:24.280 A G G flat, so just a black black, black white, 0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:24.960 and it. 0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:28.680 Just felt man, Thanks dude, I love that, you know that. 0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:30.759 And the remixes though I don't know if you did 0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:32.799 the remix, but there was I think the. 0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:35.080 Boys six or nine and them or did that remix. 0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:38.319 And at that point D J. Rogers started coming into 0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:44.280 the click. I found Warren Campbell, Baby Dog gave his nickname. Wow, 0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:47.080 that's so dope. He played on Safe and Sound like 0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:49.120 he's on all the pianos. He's on the piano on 0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:51.440 the favorite quick tu okay Yo. 0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:53.880 I heard the story we had premiere DJ Premiere on 0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:56.840 the on the show a while ago. It was like 0:46:56.960 --> 0:46:59.000 it was like that two years when we first started, 0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:01.160 and he all always told this story. He told me 0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:04.120 this story about Gangstar being on tour with you. I 0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:05.359 wanted to hear it from your side. 0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:06.839 It was you was on tour. 0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:09.800 It was you Gangstar and father them see yep and 0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:12.480 father them ship when he was on some Hollywood shit 0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:15.520 trying to be late so uk like so like before 0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:17.440 the show, You're like, yo, bring me some towels. 0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:18.720 I need like fifty towels. 0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:20.960 And so you came out during his set, Pat and 0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:22.880 your Jerry Curl and like pass him out to the 0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:24.799 crowd and like fucking up. 0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:28.040 Hey, I didn't realize that. You know me back then, 0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:31.360 we had been through too much. So our thing was 0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:33.279 we wanted to be cool with everybody because we were 0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:35.600 new to the industry and follow them. She was already 0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:39.520 popular and popping. And he used to do this thing 0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:42.480 where he would come late. No matter what his position 0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:44.360 in the lineup was, he would come late so he 0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:48.480 could be the headliner. So you had to you know, 0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:52.080 them venues had curfews, so yeah, yeah, you know you're 0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:55.960 don follow them. See you know, he'd be like, it's 0:47:56.080 --> 0:48:02.520 like yo, man, you late. He'd be like your marfled. Wow, 0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:05.719 you know, but hey, Jesus, dude, tying to do. But 0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:10.480 he Yeah, I got mad one night drinking Little millerginal drafting. 0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:12.640 I came out during this sad and did some buffoon 0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:13.400 and ship like that. 0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:17.320 You know, you know, no, no, no, Premo told you. 0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:19.279 He was like, dude, that's the most gangsy ship I 0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:19.759 ever saw. 0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:20.120 He said. 0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:23.280 After that, father he got his ass in line. 0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:27.000 It was it was flex bro. But you know it's 0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:31.160 cool though, is is that keify d was the first 0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:33.320 person I ever smoked the blunt with. He told you know, 0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:35.080 he rode the blood for the first time. I was 0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:37.480 like blown away, like, well, you know we used to smoke. 0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:40.400 You know, we had white boll Yeah, so you know 0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:44.280 we in Canada with them and Guru passed me a blunt. 0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:47.120 I'm like, like, what is it like a cigar? You know, 0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:50.200 I hit that motherfucker. I was friends for life with Guru. 0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:56.399 Wait, it just hit me because you mentioned Jerry Crole 0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:59.920 and the tal thing. This is from Tina came I 0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:02.919 tour managers like one of your biggest fans. She wants 0:49:02.960 --> 0:49:08.680 to know how you managed to stay feathered so perfectly. 0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:13.480 You had the best hair because the way because the 0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:17.320 way too funky. That's we had it. Feathered hair was healthy. 0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:21.160 It was. I appreciate that I'm getting old now, but 0:49:22.239 --> 0:49:25.719 the trick was to me is to have the light 0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:32.200 skinned hairdressers because they knew hair tricks, the good hair girls, 0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:35.600 the ones got the good hair, just the best curl. 0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:44.600 They would put girls would not only would they put 0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:51.840 like the what was it called thiodrie, the hard stuff 0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:55.200 that burns, they would put conditioner in with it when 0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:57.799 they did your rollers, so it didn't tear your hair 0:49:57.880 --> 0:50:00.680 out and make your bridle fall out. So they would 0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:04.520 condition with the breakdown process like they would they was 0:50:04.640 --> 0:50:07.920 doing some and then they would rinse it out that 0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:13.000 and then look when they broke it down and I was, 0:50:13.080 --> 0:50:15.520 you know, curled up. When they shampooed and conditioned me, 0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:18.520 then I could go easily to a feather and it 0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:21.279 would hold because my curl pattern was already broken. 0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:23.200 I don't understand the feather though, it's because it's dry, 0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:23.520 I don't. 0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:26.960 I don't understand. They would rinse me out. It was 0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:28.879 a whole process. It was just like a pressing curl. 0:50:28.960 --> 0:50:32.520 But because they would keep me conditioned, it kind of 0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:34.919 kept my hair healthy enough to take that heat. 0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:39.920 He's Jermaine Jackson Jackson. When you left the Jackson's was 0:50:39.960 --> 0:50:40.600 straight feathered. 0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:45.360 The difference is quick still got his. So this is 0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:48.440 like amazing. Those women don't have those kind of stories. 0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:53.000 I believe it was the pretty mean ass girls. 0:50:57.120 --> 0:50:58.040 Hair dressing. Well. 0:50:58.080 --> 0:51:01.520 They used to condition my hair and and roll it 0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:04.040 at the same time, so on safe and sound by 0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:07.239 the time you made it to your third record was 0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:10.719 priority at any profile? Were they just kind of just 0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:12.200 letting you do you like yo? 0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:16.719 Just they they were recouping, so I was cool. My 0:51:16.800 --> 0:51:18.520 thing was, I just never wanted to be in debt 0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:20.520 with nobody because that just seemed like some foule shit 0:51:20.600 --> 0:51:23.400 to do to anybody, just take their money. My thing is, 0:51:23.520 --> 0:51:26.279 we signed a deal, I'm gonna be live it to 0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:30.160 my side of the deal, you know. But they let 0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:32.239 me stretch out They didn't really check in on me, 0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:33.719 you know what I mean, unless I was late with 0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:35.719 a record, and then they would do mean shit, like 0:51:36.080 --> 0:51:38.359 when they realized the gang shit wasn't going nowhere. When 0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:40.440 I caught that case, they was like, okay, so if 0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:42.920 you want the advance for your next record, we need 0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:46.440 you to sign this life insurance policy. Player. So they 0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:48.680 got to ensure. I'm thinking I was finna get my check. 0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:53.040 They came with a fucking like adjuster and what is 0:51:53.160 --> 0:51:58.880 this Just don't say, check any event of your untimely face. 0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:01.680 We get a million dollars for your death and we 0:52:01.800 --> 0:52:03.239 get to keep all your money. 0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:06.400 You know, didn't cite the kind of death. And then 0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:08.120 I'm just curious. Did it say something about bullets. 0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:09.960 It's say, if a nigga shoots you on your face, 0:52:10.400 --> 0:52:14.480 your ass, you die on rosecrans, nigga face down, we 0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:16.120 get a bonus. 0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:16.839 Right. 0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:22.239 It was definitely that gang shit was so dangerous back then. 0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:25.920 Okay, So by ninety six. 0:52:28.160 --> 0:52:31.040 I was rich as fuck. Yeah, I got a poshing 0:52:31.120 --> 0:52:34.080 deal with Warner Brothers. You know, I was writing with 0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:38.160 Elder Bars Tupac. And there's one thing I got to ask. 0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:40.279 I go, man, I was writing my ass off. 0:52:40.280 --> 0:52:44.080 Because as many times as we talk about nineteen ninety 0:52:44.120 --> 0:52:48.520 five on the show, and most people, uh sort of 0:52:48.920 --> 0:52:54.239 talk about outcasts, hold the South, got something to say 0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:58.839 and doctor dre Oh trust me, I know I was God. 0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:02.480 You set it off. The very first thing that happened 0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:05.440 that had us in the audience, Like when I went 0:53:05.480 --> 0:53:09.680 at MC eight Yo, Okay, this is the thing. I 0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:12.840 had no context. 0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:15.439 Or I did. 0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:21.920 The thing was where we were sitting and you remember 0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:23.600 the intro was like everyone came out. 0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:27.080 Of death row. Yeah, yeah, that whole thing and you 0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:29.680 were first. Yeah, and. 0:53:31.239 --> 0:53:33.560 Me not get in the context, but watching the audience 0:53:33.680 --> 0:53:38.080 face like holy ship, he's singing right to m C. 0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:41.640 He was in the you know when you uh sound check, 0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:43.800 you get to see where everybody seats it they have 0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:48.000 the name there. Yeah, they had got an hour before. 0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:51.440 What were you When did you decide that I was 0:53:51.480 --> 0:53:55.640 gonna go hard? Yeah? It was a lot going on 0:53:55.800 --> 0:53:57.640 before that, Like there was a fight that I had 0:53:57.680 --> 0:54:00.080 at the l Way Theater where you know, I was 0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:03.160 implemented and like a death like you know, some one 0:54:03.239 --> 0:54:04.880 of his boys was in the audience and he was 0:54:04.960 --> 0:54:08.080 dissing me, and I started fighting with him, but it 0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:10.839 started this chain reaction where everybody started fighting in the club. 0:54:11.239 --> 0:54:13.399 So the club got tore down and somebody died that night. 0:54:13.480 --> 0:54:14.880 And it was it had nothing to do with me, 0:54:15.480 --> 0:54:18.000 but I felt like, damn, you know, me and this 0:54:18.120 --> 0:54:21.319 dude fighting and that energy just spread. So I was hot, 0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:23.440 Like I was just mad for some other reasons, you 0:54:23.520 --> 0:54:26.719 know what I mean, And that when I knew that 0:54:26.760 --> 0:54:28.640 he was going to be on the show, I was like, 0:54:28.920 --> 0:54:31.400 you know, since we came in this dis war amicably, 0:54:31.640 --> 0:54:33.920 like I'm trying to talk to him, you know, like, man, 0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:36.719 the sources keeping this shit going, we just just dead 0:54:36.840 --> 0:54:39.000 this shit and we'll be like neighborhood heroes. We both 0:54:39.040 --> 0:54:42.239 from Compton, like let's do it. You know, I fuck 0:54:42.280 --> 0:54:43.960 with you. I even work with you on some records, 0:54:44.000 --> 0:54:46.040 Like let's just squash it. But he had people in 0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:48.759 his ear that I later found out through some people 0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:51.360 in his camp, that were keeping him from fucking with me. 0:54:51.640 --> 0:54:54.040 They didn't want that to happen. They was, you know, like, Nigga, 0:54:54.040 --> 0:54:56.040 if you do that, Nigga's game over for you because 0:54:56.120 --> 0:54:58.200 you get your niggas over, you know. It's like so 0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:00.879 they didn't let us build thing was. I just thought 0:55:00.920 --> 0:55:03.600 he was just mister billy badass. Was like just kept 0:55:03.960 --> 0:55:06.719 going at me. So I was enough enough, you know 0:55:06.719 --> 0:55:08.560 what I mean? I wrote dollars and cents, and when 0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:10.680 I got a chance to perform it for him, I 0:55:10.880 --> 0:55:12.640 was like, man, and you know you you know, you 0:55:12.719 --> 0:55:14.520 make a nigga mad. When he started, I was talking 0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:17.080 gay shit on that motherfucker, like fucking this nigga. I've 0:55:19.160 --> 0:55:21.400 it was over. Like I wast my mind. I went crazy. 0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:27.279 Yeah that's the thing. We sat there like what was it? 0:55:27.520 --> 0:55:30.080 I couldn't see his face, but what was his? I 0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:32.279 did it? Did you worry that? Like they were just 0:55:32.360 --> 0:55:35.280 going to run up? I was. I really wasn't worried 0:55:35.360 --> 0:55:38.920 because you know, I was friends with Snoop and dog Pound, 0:55:39.080 --> 0:55:41.400 like we was cool, so it was gonna happen. But 0:55:41.440 --> 0:55:43.480 the little bit, I know Snoop was cool with eight two, 0:55:43.600 --> 0:55:45.200 so it was like he wasn't in it. He wasn't 0:55:45.200 --> 0:55:50.680 you know he was gonna do it. Yeah, we rehearsed it, 0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:53.840 so he knew I was gonna do that. Dre knew everybody. 0:55:54.000 --> 0:55:58.080 Dreda one edited this song, you know, so when I 0:55:58.200 --> 0:55:59.880 had to do it, it was like you know, you 0:56:00.320 --> 0:56:02.920 you say something, you gotta back it up. So I 0:56:03.080 --> 0:56:05.920 backed it up. I knew the cool thing was. To me, 0:56:06.520 --> 0:56:08.839 the cool thing was that I got my hair done 0:56:08.880 --> 0:56:10.520 in l A before we came out there, because I 0:56:10.520 --> 0:56:12.640 didn't know hair dresses in New York. And I kept 0:56:12.680 --> 0:56:21.399 my hair bone straight for four days. You gotta put 0:56:21.440 --> 0:56:21.840 the pillow. 0:56:23.840 --> 0:56:28.080 Days when the girls had the Bufonts must have been 0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:30.240 the winter time would have been more challenging. 0:56:30.960 --> 0:56:34.239 You already know that humidity would have couldn't find the 0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:35.399 lights dress in New York. 0:56:37.680 --> 0:56:43.160 Okay, So after that show was over, I ran out 0:56:43.719 --> 0:56:44.839 right after that, Uh. 0:56:46.480 --> 0:56:49.880 Let it be know then you know the snoops, old snoop. 0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:51.520 I ran out. That was done. 0:56:51.560 --> 0:56:59.160 It's over right. So that night, what did the death 0:56:59.239 --> 0:57:02.440 Row camp do? Did y'all just fly back to California 0:57:02.520 --> 0:57:04.720 or did y'all know y'all. 0:57:04.600 --> 0:57:06.439 Stayed in New York? You want to know? It really 0:57:07.040 --> 0:57:12.520 hit me. Okay, my that night when the feud started, 0:57:12.960 --> 0:57:14.640 when she got up there and said what he said, 0:57:15.400 --> 0:57:18.040 and we that was a wild pitch for us. We 0:57:18.160 --> 0:57:20.280 didn't know what was going to happen. We just wanted 0:57:20.320 --> 0:57:23.400 to represent La. We was in Madison, Square Guarden. That 0:57:23.480 --> 0:57:25.560 was my first time there. So we was like in all, 0:57:25.720 --> 0:57:27.840 like you know, we're fans too, you know, we know 0:57:27.960 --> 0:57:30.160 hip hop started in or we know exactly what it is. 0:57:30.320 --> 0:57:32.560 We just felt like finally we got some money and 0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:34.520 we further in hip hop, like you know what I mean, 0:57:34.600 --> 0:57:36.080 and we love y'all niggas, like I want to work 0:57:36.120 --> 0:57:37.800 with Rocky Cam. I want to work with you know 0:57:37.800 --> 0:57:41.520 what I'm saying, fucking shit niggas. That was on my label, 0:57:42.840 --> 0:57:46.560 fucking ugh or No on profile. It was like poor 0:57:46.640 --> 0:57:50.000 righteous Special. I wanted to work with them niggas, like 0:57:50.000 --> 0:57:51.200 you know what I mean. It's like we let you know. 0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:55.280 And Dana Dane. So after that, when when she got 0:57:55.360 --> 0:57:57.880 up there and through that wild pitch, we felt the 0:57:57.960 --> 0:57:59.720 heat from the audience behind it. So me and they 0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:01.600 dog was sitting next to each other, we stood up 0:58:01.680 --> 0:58:05.120 and just stood back to back like and Nate Dogg said, quick, 0:58:05.120 --> 0:58:06.480 if you don't let nobody hit me in the back 0:58:06.480 --> 0:58:07.840 of my head, I don't let nobody hit you in 0:58:07.840 --> 0:58:09.200 the back of your head. I'm like, bro, you ain't 0:58:09.200 --> 0:58:11.680 gotta say nothing else. She knew it was. It was 0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:15.760 so it was so chill bump and you know, blackout, 0:58:15.880 --> 0:58:17.120 like it was just weird. 0:58:17.160 --> 0:58:19.240 We had Steed out on the show a couple it 0:58:19.360 --> 0:58:21.520 was a while back, and he was there and he 0:58:21.680 --> 0:58:23.560 says like that in a lot of rooms. 0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:26.400 He was, He said, that's the energy was devilish. It 0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:28.400 was like it was like everybody could have just got 0:58:28.480 --> 0:58:30.840 killed that night. That's what it felt like. It just 0:58:30.880 --> 0:58:33.800 felt like red light on everybody. So what we did 0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:37.360 was Shug had I think he had the on the 0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:42.600 sales the mind you not what you call it? Dope 0:58:42.640 --> 0:58:47.680 aest hotel, my hotel. It's not the paramount, No, it's 0:58:47.720 --> 0:58:49.840 the one that Biggie wrapped about. Tupockey is just stayed 0:58:49.840 --> 0:58:51.960 there all the time. They have the numbers on the. 0:58:52.000 --> 0:58:59.200 Floor, the park Parking, Tupac Central Part two, the Lark 0:58:59.360 --> 0:59:01.240 that Parker's. 0:59:00.440 --> 0:59:08.200 Were we're there and Sugar had Mia come over. Did 0:59:08.280 --> 0:59:11.960 he's baby Mama? WHOA a lot of people don't know this, 0:59:12.120 --> 0:59:15.200 this is only on your show, Quest And I'm going, Shug, 0:59:15.240 --> 0:59:19.520 what are you doing? Like what the fuck? Like that's 0:59:19.920 --> 0:59:23.200 did he baby Mama? And she was just like, you know, 0:59:23.320 --> 0:59:26.680 hanging out like whatever, you know, And I was like 0:59:26.840 --> 0:59:29.600 Mary J. Blige popped up, you know what I'm saying. 0:59:29.640 --> 0:59:32.200 It was like I didn't get it. It just got 0:59:32.240 --> 0:59:34.480 weird to me. Did she calmed down? Maybe she was 0:59:34.520 --> 0:59:36.600 just there to come? I hope. You know. 0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:38.600 Well, I always thought it was weird that the Sugar 0:59:38.680 --> 0:59:42.919 started working with Joe to Yeah, yeah, like and all those, all. 0:59:42.840 --> 0:59:45.920 Those he managed them. He ended up managing everybody like 0:59:46.080 --> 0:59:49.760 you know, got in their business with MCA, and that's 0:59:49.960 --> 0:59:52.680 kind of you know, did you do it in my room? 0:59:52.800 --> 0:59:56.960 Did you? Okay? Okay? He was She wanted to be 0:59:57.520 --> 1:00:01.000 everybody's manager because he wanted to shake down every record company. 1:00:01.320 --> 1:00:03.320 His intentions was good, but I think at some point 1:00:03.400 --> 1:00:06.280 it started driving sure crazy too. It was just because 1:00:06.320 --> 1:00:09.920 the fame and everybody trusted him, like he had everybody 1:00:10.320 --> 1:00:13.080 wanting to do business with him. I mean, you'll be 1:00:13.600 --> 1:00:15.240 I was there when Hammer was there, it would be 1:00:15.400 --> 1:00:24.520 me MC Hammer, Roger Troutman, Leroy Hudson, fucking Josy, nigga, nigga, everybody, nigga, nigga. 1:00:24.640 --> 1:00:32.320 Everybody went to death row everybody, everybody. But that's crazy. 1:00:32.360 --> 1:00:33.360 What is it about Sugar? 1:00:33.440 --> 1:00:35.800 Because I mean again, coming from security to be in 1:00:35.840 --> 1:00:37.800 an executive managed super manager, Like what. 1:00:37.960 --> 1:00:41.600 Was that charisma as a he was giving everybody results. 1:00:42.080 --> 1:00:44.080 He was getting motherfuckers paid from their record company. He 1:00:44.160 --> 1:00:46.240 was shaking their record companies up, and they were right 1:00:46.280 --> 1:00:47.920 to check to you. And he was just scaring the 1:00:47.920 --> 1:00:53.720 ship out of folks out of niggas. Did you work 1:00:53.800 --> 1:00:57.280 on Sam? Sam? I worked on one of two songs 1:00:57.320 --> 1:00:59.960 of Sam to recognize you. No, it wasn't recognized that 1:01:00.000 --> 1:01:01.800 it was dre It was one thing I did with Sam. 1:01:02.120 --> 1:01:05.120 I forgot Okay, let's let's finally get it out there. 1:01:05.240 --> 1:01:06.000 Let's get it out there. 1:01:06.040 --> 1:01:08.720 In the dog Pound record dog Food, I was, yeah, 1:01:10.000 --> 1:01:17.160 are your patches the common patch of are you the 1:01:17.280 --> 1:01:23.240 Marley Maul of the West Coast? Marley mal infamously had 1:01:23.720 --> 1:01:27.160 you know his president? And then next thing you know, 1:01:27.760 --> 1:01:29.320 a billion rappers are using. 1:01:29.880 --> 1:01:33.480 I sampled Lady Groove by the Fat Back Band, and 1:01:33.600 --> 1:01:35.920 I cleaned it up through SSL console and made it 1:01:36.000 --> 1:01:39.120 sound like a breakbeat because it was all noisy and 1:01:39.280 --> 1:01:42.320 reverb beat. But I tightened it up and I used 1:01:42.320 --> 1:01:47.240 it for Second and Nun's song be True to Yourself. 1:01:47.320 --> 1:01:49.720 The twelve inch we did like this European twelve inch 1:01:49.760 --> 1:01:52.440 where I was cutting, taping, breaking it down to a break, 1:01:52.920 --> 1:01:57.240 and Warren g sampled it. No your guy. He used 1:01:57.240 --> 1:02:00.880 to do the compilations of European compilations where they would 1:02:00.920 --> 1:02:06.640 do no. He was what's my man's name? Uh No, 1:02:06.840 --> 1:02:09.440 he was super popular. We'd all buy his records back 1:02:09.600 --> 1:02:11.800 like he was from Europe and he would do these 1:02:11.880 --> 1:02:17.400 breakbeat records. Simon Harris, Simon Harris. Simon Harris sampled me 1:02:17.600 --> 1:02:19.720 and put my break on his record and named it 1:02:19.800 --> 1:02:22.120 after one of kk's lines in the record Keep Cool 1:02:22.120 --> 1:02:25.160 Little Girl called it to keep Cool Little Girl break. 1:02:25.240 --> 1:02:28.960 But it was that, you know it, It was killing. 1:02:29.600 --> 1:02:34.320 Warren sampled it for Indoor Smoke and it became his 1:02:34.400 --> 1:02:39.680 bottom beat name. It was used on Black Superman for 1:02:40.240 --> 1:02:44.000 Above the Law, and it just became the common clap. 1:02:44.840 --> 1:02:46.800 That's that West Coast clap. 1:02:47.280 --> 1:02:49.680 Those are real claps. Some of them are we you know, 1:02:49.720 --> 1:02:53.600 we're in the bathroom with a dynamic mic clap and 1:02:53.680 --> 1:02:56.800 then eq it and you know, sample them. But that 1:02:57.000 --> 1:02:58.800 was the that was the color like to because we 1:02:58.840 --> 1:03:01.560 didn't have that that clap trap that Parliament used to 1:03:01.680 --> 1:03:04.360 use for like all them them funky records, you know, 1:03:04.440 --> 1:03:07.840 Flashlight arcle boogie, So we made them ourselves you know, 1:03:08.160 --> 1:03:10.360 and I ended up giving up. I sam with some 1:03:10.440 --> 1:03:12.880 other ones and did a real dope color that. You know. 1:03:13.000 --> 1:03:15.960 Claps are colors, you know, they're either big and buff 1:03:16.400 --> 1:03:18.880 or they're light and tiny. And I did some big, 1:03:19.040 --> 1:03:21.280 buff media ass claps and gave him the Dre and 1:03:21.320 --> 1:03:26.840 he used them for fucking in the club. Yeah. The 1:03:27.640 --> 1:03:30.720 the only the claps are that was Dre snare and 1:03:30.800 --> 1:03:33.680 kick and everything else. But the claps, they're also the 1:03:33.760 --> 1:03:37.040 same claps from True Heart's Addictives. They're I could give 1:03:37.080 --> 1:03:38.640 them to me and you shared. You gave me a 1:03:38.680 --> 1:03:40.840 file bro of some Prince stuff that blew me away, 1:03:40.880 --> 1:03:42.720 and I wanted to give you back some you know. 1:03:42.960 --> 1:03:45.120 I got p y t and then broke down it 1:03:46.160 --> 1:03:50.560 that kid, you pee my tea. I'm like, see this, 1:03:50.720 --> 1:03:51.880 I know your nerve man. 1:03:54.440 --> 1:03:57.439 With me, So you get the you get the master. 1:03:57.560 --> 1:04:00.120 And then suddenly you want to see what Michael. 1:04:01.680 --> 1:04:03.880 I. You know, I put it in waves and slowed 1:04:04.040 --> 1:04:07.440 down and listen to HIMIM like we did the same kids. 1:04:07.800 --> 1:04:14.880 You pet you tea, and it's like, wow, that's what 1:04:15.000 --> 1:04:17.280 you saying, right man? Man. 1:04:17.560 --> 1:04:20.360 I always knew what I knew about the beef with 1:04:20.440 --> 1:04:22.320 you and eight. What was the basis of Beef with 1:04:22.440 --> 1:04:23.840 You and House of Pain whatever? 1:04:23.960 --> 1:04:26.440 Last ever, Last was just being a dick back then, 1:04:26.600 --> 1:04:29.439 Like he was friends with Iced Tea and I think 1:04:29.840 --> 1:04:32.480 I had said we had this magazine called Rap Pages 1:04:32.480 --> 1:04:37.280 and I had seen Tea and I had to apologize 1:04:37.320 --> 1:04:40.080 back then. But me being such a big Iced Tea fan, 1:04:40.560 --> 1:04:42.560 when I saw him like go hard on a fan 1:04:42.640 --> 1:04:44.560 one time, like we were on tour together and he 1:04:44.680 --> 1:04:46.640 was like, get the funk, I ain't signing your fucking autograph, 1:04:46.680 --> 1:04:49.000 Get the funk out of here. I was like, oh wow, 1:04:49.280 --> 1:04:51.560 Like he had you know, he didn't feel like being bothered, 1:04:51.800 --> 1:04:53.680 and that offended me because I wanted to ask him 1:04:53.680 --> 1:04:58.120 for autograph. I said, said, man, Ice teas me, Man, 1:04:58.240 --> 1:05:01.640 he's fucking dick, like, you know, being emotional at twenty 1:05:01.720 --> 1:05:03.920 years old, twenty one whatever. In the magazine they just 1:05:04.000 --> 1:05:06.000 printed it. It was like quick, just Ice Tea, but 1:05:06.080 --> 1:05:08.520 it wasn't like that, you know, and Ice team was 1:05:08.600 --> 1:05:11.520 like yeah. He he shot back up and he said, yeah, 1:05:11.800 --> 1:05:14.160 give a fuck about quicker. I'll beat Quick, motherfucking ass. 1:05:14.320 --> 1:05:16.640 I never said nothing else because I believe him. 1:05:18.440 --> 1:05:18.480 So. 1:05:19.040 --> 1:05:21.600 At the time syndicate was signed, the Ice Tay just 1:05:21.840 --> 1:05:24.160 before him, like they had this song you know you 1:05:24.320 --> 1:05:27.320 make me you make me sick like Nestie Quick. Your 1:05:27.400 --> 1:05:29.480 rhymes are whack. You ain't the Mac. And then that 1:05:29.640 --> 1:05:30.440 that went over everybody. 1:05:31.080 --> 1:05:34.920 So Heed, you're talking about cleaned up every Yeah. 1:05:36.400 --> 1:05:40.600 House of pain, I mean not white Yeah, yeah, the 1:05:40.680 --> 1:05:44.240 old schooling with the syndicate. He just I've seen the 1:05:44.320 --> 1:05:46.800 video that we used to watch. What was that music 1:05:46.920 --> 1:05:50.480 choice not music I'm watching music boxing said you make 1:05:50.600 --> 1:05:53.640 me Quick, you make me sick like DJ Quick, Your 1:05:53.720 --> 1:05:55.680 rhymes are whack, you ain't the Mac. I was like, 1:05:55.800 --> 1:05:58.040 oh God, and we have just got the deal to 1:05:58.160 --> 1:06:01.040 do that Minister Society track, like to give him a 1:06:01.080 --> 1:06:02.600 song for that movie. And we had like screened a 1:06:02.600 --> 1:06:03.920 little bit of that movie. I was like, Oh, this 1:06:04.040 --> 1:06:06.880 movie'd be crazy because back then it was just about 1:06:06.960 --> 1:06:09.360 being honest to the hood. Like if the movie looked 1:06:09.440 --> 1:06:11.560 like the Hood, and that shit was gonna automatically blow 1:06:11.600 --> 1:06:14.320 because culture, know when it's a culture vulture when it's real. 1:06:14.440 --> 1:06:17.120 So you know, that shit was real, and I just figured, 1:06:17.200 --> 1:06:18.880 you know, I might as well. I was in between 1:06:18.920 --> 1:06:20.680 way too funky and all that shit, and you know, 1:06:20.840 --> 1:06:24.160 at the time, I was producing. I was doing three 1:06:24.200 --> 1:06:26.240 albums at a time. I was working on I Did 1:06:26.280 --> 1:06:28.360 a Bit Better Have My Money, second in the whole album, 1:06:28.440 --> 1:06:30.560 my album, and was starting on way too funky, but 1:06:30.720 --> 1:06:33.200 was still stop. When the big ass twenty thousand dollars 1:06:33.240 --> 1:06:35.320 checks came from them little soundtrack record, I was like, 1:06:35.640 --> 1:06:38.880 gotta get it, need that. Hell yeah, run it? How fast? 1:06:39.400 --> 1:06:39.520 Uh? 1:06:40.840 --> 1:06:46.360 Was Tupac's work method as far as songs per day. 1:06:47.640 --> 1:06:50.840 He could easily do like five songs today. That's like 1:06:50.960 --> 1:06:53.480 doing the album in three days. He could do it. 1:06:54.600 --> 1:06:55.560 So we did that also. 1:06:55.560 --> 1:06:57.360 I mean you would have to do five songs. You 1:06:57.360 --> 1:06:59.439 would have to beat first of all, how many songs 1:06:59.520 --> 1:07:01.000 he do on on all eyes on me? 1:07:01.160 --> 1:07:03.200 I did a bunch like I helped with a lot 1:07:03.240 --> 1:07:06.120 of them, Like dads really produced most of the ambitions 1:07:06.160 --> 1:07:08.000 of a rider. I would just remix some of them 1:07:08.040 --> 1:07:10.800 and just you know, finish the musical thought of them. 1:07:10.960 --> 1:07:13.000 You know, they needed a little high hat or something. 1:07:13.040 --> 1:07:14.920 I put a hat down or some shake. I got 1:07:14.920 --> 1:07:16.560 into percussion back then, so I was playing like the 1:07:16.600 --> 1:07:18.959 percussion and ship on ship to make it just sound 1:07:19.080 --> 1:07:21.440 like you know, America's most wanted. That's me on the 1:07:21.480 --> 1:07:23.600 clap and a percussion just to make it make it 1:07:23.680 --> 1:07:27.400 sound different. Yeah, that's that's that little weaker looking it's 1:07:27.440 --> 1:07:29.840 like a gordo. A gordo. It's like a silver one. 1:07:30.200 --> 1:07:32.440 I had Tupac signed, actually, but it was that that 1:07:32.640 --> 1:07:34.560 thing that you know, just to make it sound like 1:07:34.680 --> 1:07:36.720 as if you scratch and keep it percussive or whatever. 1:07:36.800 --> 1:07:39.280 But I worked on like fourteen songs on that record. 1:07:40.240 --> 1:07:42.440 Let me okay, let me say when I first met 1:07:42.760 --> 1:07:43.720 in two days. 1:07:44.040 --> 1:07:50.440 Shiit seven songs a day. I needed cocaine back then, Brod, 1:07:51.000 --> 1:07:56.880 we smoke headaches right there. 1:07:57.200 --> 1:08:02.280 Okay, explain, explain to me your relationship with the FlexIt 1:08:02.360 --> 1:08:03.680 tone AKA. 1:08:07.400 --> 1:08:09.160 You know it was funny because we didn't know. 1:08:09.600 --> 1:08:14.720 Okay, so we back when we were just starting to 1:08:14.800 --> 1:08:21.719 work on Chappelle's third season, we started the Tupac sketch. Okay, well, 1:08:23.040 --> 1:08:27.720 and Neil Brennan was like, Yo, we need what we 1:08:28.000 --> 1:08:32.880 just called the DJ Quick noise. Little did we know 1:08:34.040 --> 1:08:36.559 you were in the studio next door. Like the assistant 1:08:36.640 --> 1:08:40.080 engineer was like, you know, DJ Quick's actually next door 1:08:41.880 --> 1:08:44.080 was like, yo, dude, we gotta get him to do that. 1:08:47.040 --> 1:08:50.200 And sure enough you had your box of percussion. Wow, 1:08:50.800 --> 1:08:54.360 and you pulled out the FlexIt tone in history. 1:08:55.520 --> 1:08:58.439 I got that from my brother in law, Bill Coverson. 1:08:58.560 --> 1:09:00.519 He was like the first person in us with that thing, 1:09:00.600 --> 1:09:02.360 and I'm like, what is this crazy thing? But when 1:09:02.400 --> 1:09:05.040 he would do it, it was just funny. And I 1:09:05.120 --> 1:09:07.800 remember that sound from the song Qutie Pie by One Way. 1:09:08.479 --> 1:09:12.120 That's when we first heard it. And ultimately who taught 1:09:12.160 --> 1:09:14.200 me how to really get down on it was Carl 1:09:14.280 --> 1:09:17.080 Butch Small, this dude named Butch who's the percussion player 1:09:17.120 --> 1:09:18.920 for Death Row. He was like the played on like 1:09:19.160 --> 1:09:21.560 twenty one Jump Street on Doctor Dre's records all the 1:09:21.720 --> 1:09:24.639 you know when when when when Dre's records starts sounding 1:09:24.760 --> 1:09:26.679 like super percussive and went. 1:09:26.600 --> 1:09:37.360 Big exactly that that was the one. That's Carl's from Detroit. Yeah, 1:09:37.880 --> 1:09:39.280 actual people playing percussion. 1:09:39.400 --> 1:09:42.439 Yeah see, I'm thinking about this stuff is just a maculate. 1:09:42.560 --> 1:09:45.000 We know, bro, it's not programmed. This dude had bell 1:09:45.080 --> 1:09:46.720 trees like you go in there. He had this set 1:09:46.800 --> 1:09:50.679 up where he had the bongos, bell trees roto Tom's 1:09:50.880 --> 1:09:56.200 flexy Tones, Guika's Monkey Acid. Yeah I'm sitting up here 1:09:56.200 --> 1:09:59.680 with yeah, Yeah, I'm sitting up here watching him do this, 1:10:00.360 --> 1:10:03.080 and he played on Dollars and Cents and blew my 1:10:03.200 --> 1:10:05.640 record up. And when the when the soundtrack Murder was 1:10:05.680 --> 1:10:07.240 the Case came out, Dollars and Cents was one of 1:10:07.280 --> 1:10:10.120 the popular records on there, Dre locked him down. Dre 1:10:10.320 --> 1:10:13.439 was like, you know, I need to sound for these songs. 1:10:14.200 --> 1:10:16.479 So he you know, I couldn't get Carl no more. 1:10:16.520 --> 1:10:18.439 And I just got the deal to work with Tony 1:10:19.120 --> 1:10:20.720 and do the Let's Get Down record. I was like, 1:10:21.080 --> 1:10:23.559 we need to continue that sound on here. So I'm 1:10:23.600 --> 1:10:28.040 calling Carl. Hey Carl, I'm out here right now. Hey 1:10:28.080 --> 1:10:30.080 Carl Man, Hey busch Man, we need to get you 1:10:30.120 --> 1:10:30.759 on this project. 1:10:30.800 --> 1:10:30.960 Man. 1:10:31.520 --> 1:10:33.200 I was like, so he've got real with me, said 1:10:33.200 --> 1:10:35.120 hey man. Dre said, I can't work on your records more. 1:10:35.160 --> 1:10:40.000 I'm like, what man? All right, Reggie. So I hung 1:10:40.120 --> 1:10:42.400 up the phone and I was like, I was in 1:10:42.479 --> 1:10:45.080 the living room, my little apartment was high my condo. 1:10:45.280 --> 1:10:49.240 I was like, So I drove to West La Music. 1:10:49.600 --> 1:10:52.120 I was like, hey, man, do y'all sell percussion up here? 1:10:53.120 --> 1:10:55.320 Come on back. So I just was looking at all 1:10:55.400 --> 1:10:57.320 the percussion. I would play it in the store to 1:10:57.400 --> 1:11:00.160 see what I was It wouldn't sound like. And I 1:11:00.520 --> 1:11:03.960 bought a I bought two flexy tones, the big one 1:11:04.000 --> 1:11:06.519 in the little one. I bought the bell tree where 1:11:06.560 --> 1:11:08.080 you have to order it. I bought a bell tree, 1:11:08.200 --> 1:11:12.400 Chinese bell tree. I bought like bongos. I bought tambourines. 1:11:12.520 --> 1:11:15.519 I bought the guica, the monkey ass. I bought the 1:11:15.880 --> 1:11:18.759 and the cabasas. I bought the big and small cobassas, 1:11:18.760 --> 1:11:21.320 and I bought shakers. And I went in there and 1:11:21.600 --> 1:11:25.280 I walked around my apartment playing that flexy tone over 1:11:25.400 --> 1:11:27.800 and over and over again until I got it to 1:11:27.920 --> 1:11:30.519 sound like the record was. Yeah, And you know, I 1:11:30.560 --> 1:11:32.080 figured out a way to do it. You've been one 1:11:32.120 --> 1:11:33.560 of the bells back and you keep one of the 1:11:33.640 --> 1:11:36.120 bells open and you just ride the tone for as 1:11:36.160 --> 1:11:37.880 long as you can ride it. You know, it's like 1:11:38.000 --> 1:11:39.400 it's like playing the trombone almost. 1:11:39.720 --> 1:11:43.240 It's hard to get that singular sound because there's. 1:11:44.439 --> 1:11:48.679 Hit the bells, any little slight hit, any strike, it'll 1:11:48.680 --> 1:11:51.920 make it sound like. So the object is the whole one. 1:11:54.920 --> 1:11:57.720 It wasn't my parents, But I do remember, no, I 1:11:57.760 --> 1:12:00.760 remember quick getting me in trouble once. What in band 1:12:00.840 --> 1:12:03.000 class when I discovered the FlexIt tone. 1:12:04.720 --> 1:12:07.200 The best. It was the loudest instrument. 1:12:08.280 --> 1:12:09.840 So like you know, they be you know, trying to 1:12:09.840 --> 1:12:12.200 tell us something. I'd be back there, and all of 1:12:12.240 --> 1:12:17.160 a sudden it's like, Bill, stay off the class. 1:12:17.280 --> 1:12:17.920 We needn't talk. 1:12:18.439 --> 1:12:26.840 Wow, it's cool because that ship was great. I would 1:12:26.920 --> 1:12:27.840 not trade that ship for the world. 1:12:29.000 --> 1:12:31.799 Speaking of which, can you talk about working on smells 1:12:31.840 --> 1:12:32.479 like teen Spirit? 1:12:33.000 --> 1:12:41.559 I'm sorry, let's get down. It is bro hands down 1:12:42.080 --> 1:12:45.600 one of the funnest sessions ever because Raphael is just 1:12:46.040 --> 1:12:48.160 the best R and B musician A lot to me. 1:12:51.040 --> 1:12:52.800 I didn't know if he was down. We went to 1:12:52.920 --> 1:12:55.880 them if they came to you, yeah, well we had 1:12:55.920 --> 1:12:57.680 bought the Sons of the Soul album. I had it, 1:12:57.760 --> 1:12:59.519 you know. I was like, I want to work with 1:12:59.600 --> 1:13:02.439 him because you know, Anniversary and laid hit them a 1:13:02.520 --> 1:13:04.600 pillow and my ex girlfriend as a whole. If I 1:13:04.600 --> 1:13:07.320 had no loose, I'm like, these dudes is like this 1:13:07.479 --> 1:13:09.920 is better than they albums just got better and better. 1:13:10.600 --> 1:13:12.639 So I just became a super fan and I wanted 1:13:12.680 --> 1:13:16.040 to work with him. So my drummer George Archie had 1:13:16.120 --> 1:13:19.080 now one ye yeah, g one knew him and he 1:13:19.160 --> 1:13:20.599 was like, yeah, I can get you in Ray Man, 1:13:21.360 --> 1:13:24.320 I'm like, Ray, who's Ray? Where's Raphael? You know that's 1:13:24.360 --> 1:13:26.400 how green I was. So, you know, he set up 1:13:26.400 --> 1:13:28.080 a meeting and I'll talk to him. I'm like, man, 1:13:28.120 --> 1:13:29.920 you want to do a dance record, like I want 1:13:29.960 --> 1:13:31.280 to do some up tempo with y'all, like you know, 1:13:31.360 --> 1:13:33.120 mix a little bit of this gangster shit I'm doing 1:13:33.200 --> 1:13:36.000 with what y'all do? I think it'll work? He's like, yeah, 1:13:36.120 --> 1:13:38.360 let's start. You know, so I got the break beat 1:13:38.439 --> 1:13:43.439 down and he I sent them to tapes back then. 1:13:43.640 --> 1:13:46.840 You know you're seeing a twenty four track, real laid 1:13:46.920 --> 1:13:49.000 it down, send her like a rough Now what you 1:13:49.160 --> 1:13:51.439 hear is not a dragon, mister DJ quick got to 1:13:51.479 --> 1:13:53.240 bring you know. He's like, he said, let's do it 1:13:53.400 --> 1:13:56.360 in eights, Like you do you wrap eight bars, I'll 1:13:56.400 --> 1:13:58.400 sing eight bars and would do an eight bar chorus. 1:13:58.520 --> 1:14:01.720 I was like, that's I nen't thought about that, Like, 1:14:02.080 --> 1:14:03.720 how's that going? Because at that point we was trying 1:14:03.720 --> 1:14:06.240 to do records for radio, you know, sixteen eight, sixteen 1:14:06.360 --> 1:14:09.280 eight right right ever, And he was like the arrangement 1:14:09.400 --> 1:14:10.920 was just trippy to me, Like, you know, I'm wanting 1:14:10.960 --> 1:14:14.720 to do the whole sixteen and the way he heard it, 1:14:15.200 --> 1:14:17.120 you know, I was like, Okay, that's a good idea. 1:14:17.479 --> 1:14:19.720 So I wrote the bass line out and I was like, 1:14:19.800 --> 1:14:21.840 for his baseline, I want his baseline to be different. 1:14:21.920 --> 1:14:26.639 So I wrote his baseline specifically for him for his voice. 1:14:26.760 --> 1:14:28.880 And mine was like a copy of my just like 1:14:28.920 --> 1:14:33.320 copping record boodhao boom boom boot nine. You know what's 1:14:33.360 --> 1:14:35.400 that mine and nine? Shit like you know, yeah nice 1:14:35.760 --> 1:14:39.320 so and his was just a little more funky and straightforward. 1:14:39.720 --> 1:14:41.280 And when he played when I tell you, when he 1:14:41.360 --> 1:14:44.280 played the guitar, he had a dough bro and he 1:14:44.439 --> 1:14:47.000 played that fucking plumeer game. Damn. When I got it 1:14:47.160 --> 1:14:50.479 back against the baseline, I was like, lord a mercy. 1:14:51.479 --> 1:14:54.519 I took the chase in the studio and I got 1:14:54.680 --> 1:14:57.439 profissioned a little bit on that percussion shit. So I 1:14:57.520 --> 1:14:59.360 started and that was my first time ever working with 1:14:59.439 --> 1:15:01.759 pro tools. That's when pro tools was in its early 1:15:02.280 --> 1:15:04.920 early stages. He took the tape, printed it to pro 1:15:05.040 --> 1:15:08.320 tools and start editing and changing things and then put 1:15:08.400 --> 1:15:09.920 it back on the tape. He was like, quick, that's 1:15:09.960 --> 1:15:13.200 how you do it. I'm like, hell yeah. Because Marsha 1:15:13.400 --> 1:15:16.559 was if it wasn't the tape, it wasn't me got 1:15:16.600 --> 1:15:19.360 it back to me. I got on that all the percussion, 1:15:19.439 --> 1:15:21.479 like the Cabasa and all that ship and you know, 1:15:22.120 --> 1:15:24.000 I bought like the chimes used to hear on all 1:15:24.040 --> 1:15:25.960 the Maze records featuring Franker Beller. I was like, I 1:15:26.000 --> 1:15:27.560 wanted all that shit, you know. 1:15:28.080 --> 1:15:33.599 You know, I'm amazed that you're playing literally playing these things. Yeah, 1:15:33.760 --> 1:15:36.519 because it like I'm in the band and I'm like, 1:15:37.600 --> 1:15:39.479 I know that noise is on a high Players record. 1:15:39.560 --> 1:15:42.200 Let me just take it from there, and I go 1:15:42.280 --> 1:15:44.200 to car wash for the collapse and then you know, 1:15:46.640 --> 1:15:47.240 you know, if. 1:15:47.200 --> 1:15:49.639 You think about it, everything that you hear on records 1:15:49.680 --> 1:15:51.960 anyway was kind of done at some point by some 1:15:52.080 --> 1:15:54.920 human beings. You know. So I figured, what fuck the 1:15:55.040 --> 1:15:58.320 sample because I got tired of giving my all my money. Yeah, 1:15:59.080 --> 1:16:01.920 I mean the lawyer fees alone on that shit. It's crazy, 1:16:02.080 --> 1:16:02.519 you know what I mean. 1:16:02.600 --> 1:16:06.320 So, but that's that explains why your prodcast so much 1:16:06.360 --> 1:16:08.680 life to it now that I know that it's not 1:16:08.840 --> 1:16:16.479 one hundred synthetic, you know, Was it a. 1:16:16.520 --> 1:16:19.639 Big difference for you or talk about this transition once 1:16:19.720 --> 1:16:21.040 you went from profile. 1:16:20.760 --> 1:16:24.280 To Arista, but not really. I was waiting for that 1:16:24.400 --> 1:16:26.400 because I got tired of being put on suspension if 1:16:26.439 --> 1:16:28.880 my record was late and Corey then wouldn't pay me 1:16:29.080 --> 1:16:32.320 and all this. Clive was like Dad, Clike Davis was, 1:16:32.439 --> 1:16:34.439 you know, a fan of his since the time he 1:16:34.560 --> 1:16:38.439 signed like Alon, that group that had the Albarine City 1:16:38.479 --> 1:16:41.360 when Arister Records was the biggest one of the bigger 1:16:41.439 --> 1:16:45.680 labels in my collection. So you know GQ, you know 1:16:45.880 --> 1:16:49.040 Ray Parker Junior Radio, when he hughes all that stuff, 1:16:49.240 --> 1:16:52.120 with all that aristos, I wanted the kashif you know 1:16:52.240 --> 1:16:56.479 these were Nigga records. Guy the white guy writing this shit. 1:16:56.520 --> 1:16:58.439 So when I met him, I was like, whatever you 1:16:58.520 --> 1:17:01.200 need me to do? You know he was like Dad, Bro, 1:17:01.479 --> 1:17:03.160 It's like, man, it's awesome. 1:17:03.240 --> 1:17:04.640 Yeah, rhythm, I love I love that. 1:17:04.680 --> 1:17:07.160 That's my favorite quick album. What is what is your 1:17:07.200 --> 1:17:08.000 favorite quick record? 1:17:08.760 --> 1:17:11.160 That's my favorite quick album? And that intro is my 1:17:11.240 --> 1:17:15.840 favorite intro do rock and roll music and the intro 1:17:19.479 --> 1:17:21.320 with that too for us right, thank you? 1:17:21.439 --> 1:17:23.160 I love that record. Just having fun. Man. 1:17:24.000 --> 1:17:25.280 I wanted to always want to ask you about the 1:17:25.320 --> 1:17:28.840 divorce song, James the Bar. How did y'all how did 1:17:28.920 --> 1:17:29.439 that come together? 1:17:30.320 --> 1:17:33.439 James was James was, you know, he had a situation 1:17:33.560 --> 1:17:35.840 with his girl or whatever, and that's how he was feeling. 1:17:35.880 --> 1:17:38.799 I'm like, bro, we you always see these wedding songs 1:17:39.400 --> 1:17:42.599 like let's make a divorce song. But this was before 1:17:42.640 --> 1:17:45.040 I was married, so I didn't understand just how fucked 1:17:45.120 --> 1:17:48.560 up divorce really is. I'm just making a record, you know. 1:17:48.760 --> 1:17:50.280 I wish I could have thought that one out a 1:17:50.280 --> 1:17:55.840 little bit better. The divorce is a bad word, you know, 1:17:56.120 --> 1:17:59.240 like and then how how much some lawyers get paid 1:17:59.280 --> 1:18:00.559 when you go through that ship? I was like, wow, 1:18:00.640 --> 1:18:02.720 But you know it was you know, not to put 1:18:02.800 --> 1:18:04.120 too much of his business out there. It was just 1:18:04.200 --> 1:18:06.000 something he was going through. And we just wrote it 1:18:06.080 --> 1:18:09.320 out and Robert Bacon played all pretty guitar ship, you 1:18:09.360 --> 1:18:15.400 know what I mean. Can I gotta say the as 1:18:15.439 --> 1:18:17.560 a DJ, I knew this was coming. I knew it. 1:18:17.760 --> 1:18:20.280 I know this was going all right. AS was going 1:18:20.320 --> 1:18:21.479 to bring it up if you didn't. 1:18:21.840 --> 1:18:24.800 As a DJ, if ain't got for Serado because now 1:18:24.840 --> 1:18:27.960 I know where the one is, that part nothing. 1:18:29.200 --> 1:18:33.360 Fuss me more than trying to find the fucking one 1:18:34.120 --> 1:18:36.840 on hand in hand, Oh, I thought, I was going 1:18:36.920 --> 1:18:37.720 to go somewhere else with it. 1:18:37.920 --> 1:18:42.639 Wait, it's all those first the first up there, the upbeats. 1:18:43.040 --> 1:18:45.760 No, no, no, I know now because literally I had 1:18:45.800 --> 1:18:49.640 to spend seven minutes on Serado like one two, and 1:18:49.760 --> 1:18:52.080 then I had to loop it just so that it's 1:18:52.600 --> 1:18:54.200 BROI it in my head because when I want to 1:18:54.240 --> 1:18:57.160 spend it and I can't find the one, and it 1:18:57.360 --> 1:19:00.600 just ruins my life, like it like. 1:19:00.680 --> 1:19:13.240 Why couldn't you just or it was like it was 1:19:13.280 --> 1:19:18.439 the beat, it was like one. 1:19:19.880 --> 1:19:20.360 I know that. 1:19:21.360 --> 1:19:24.040 It's like it's like it's an imaginary kick. It's like 1:19:24.360 --> 1:19:29.200 kick boom boom boom. Yeah. 1:19:29.240 --> 1:19:31.600 I know now because of Sado, But back when I 1:19:31.720 --> 1:19:34.040 was spinning the wax, it wasn't my bad. 1:19:34.120 --> 1:19:38.400 Bro. It's thirty seconds like looping on the record. I'm 1:19:38.439 --> 1:19:39.880 trying to figure out what's the one, where's the one? 1:19:39.880 --> 1:19:41.320 Whe's the one? What's bad? Bro? 1:19:41.800 --> 1:19:43.000 I want to know where I thought you were taking 1:19:43.040 --> 1:19:46.599 this pitching on the party dude. Well yeah, when somebody 1:19:46.680 --> 1:19:48.320 kicked the extension court out there, yeah. 1:19:48.360 --> 1:19:51.080 And the record is not but that happened. That used 1:19:51.080 --> 1:19:52.439 to happen, I know. 1:19:52.560 --> 1:19:55.160 But like if you're playing at a party and nobody 1:19:55.439 --> 1:19:56.840 like people don't really know the record. 1:19:57.400 --> 1:20:01.599 They think some we messed up. Yeah, I love that record, 1:20:01.640 --> 1:20:02.400 but I love that record. 1:20:03.640 --> 1:20:06.400 Had that was I was. I did that for these guys. 1:20:06.479 --> 1:20:09.120 That's I became friends with Big Boy and Fuzzy So 1:20:09.439 --> 1:20:11.040 and they were you know, they was running Power one 1:20:11.080 --> 1:20:13.320 and six. So I was making records that was just 1:20:13.439 --> 1:20:15.960 like funny, you know, because I had a little bit 1:20:16.000 --> 1:20:17.680 of love on Power, you know what I mean. So 1:20:18.200 --> 1:20:20.680 that was like a radio DJ thing and it was 1:20:20.760 --> 1:20:23.600 cool because on the air when the DJs will play it, 1:20:23.680 --> 1:20:26.240 they comment right in that break like it'd be like, 1:20:26.320 --> 1:20:28.439 you know, somebody kicked this and you hear the little 1:20:28.520 --> 1:20:32.519 noise that transient it's all authentic and be like hey 1:20:32.600 --> 1:20:35.160 quick man. You know the air, the radio personalities would 1:20:35.200 --> 1:20:37.360 chime in and then come back on. It just became 1:20:37.439 --> 1:20:39.760 like a little fun One of my favorite one. 1:20:39.800 --> 1:20:41.840 Another one of the productions I love the yours was 1:20:42.000 --> 1:20:46.479 come tonight with You First, We'll do what happened with 1:20:47.040 --> 1:20:50.400 well because at the album and. 1:20:51.520 --> 1:20:55.360 Well, unfortunately I didn't speak Indian when I sampled that record. 1:20:55.840 --> 1:20:57.479 I would have loved to have cleared it, but we 1:20:57.560 --> 1:21:00.320 didn't know who it was, like, we didn't do our 1:21:00.400 --> 1:21:02.640 due diligence. We just what we knew. It was a 1:21:02.720 --> 1:21:05.320 hot break, you know. And Dre was working with ro 1:21:05.479 --> 1:21:07.240 Kim at that point, and he was working with Truth. 1:21:07.640 --> 1:21:10.160 And I gave that record to Truth for her birthday 1:21:10.640 --> 1:21:12.960 because me and MC Light tried to do something to it, 1:21:13.360 --> 1:21:15.880 but I didn't think that I kid it far enough 1:21:15.960 --> 1:21:17.840 with Light. I swear to God man, Light is mad 1:21:17.880 --> 1:21:19.880 at me to the day. I was gonna say it 1:21:20.040 --> 1:21:22.800 was to Bed, knowing that she gave was that was 1:21:22.960 --> 1:21:26.200 that was empty Light's record. I was trying to just 1:21:26.320 --> 1:21:29.160 expand you know, you know em like Lights of Rock, 1:21:29.240 --> 1:21:32.200 you know audio two, Like I was gonna had to 1:21:32.240 --> 1:21:33.840 give her one. She came to the house, we worked 1:21:33.880 --> 1:21:36.120 it out. She spit on it, but it was like 1:21:36.280 --> 1:21:39.080 I didn't know where to take it from that point. 1:21:39.120 --> 1:21:40.960 It was like I'm never gonna be able to finish it. 1:21:41.080 --> 1:21:43.040 And I know it was cool. So it was true 1:21:43.120 --> 1:21:44.840 heirst birthday and I was working over there with her 1:21:44.920 --> 1:21:48.000 and uh Nocturnal and Dre and I gave it to 1:21:48.120 --> 1:21:50.479 her this instrument, like hey, you know, can you let 1:21:50.560 --> 1:21:51.960 Dre hear this and see if there's something you can do. 1:21:52.200 --> 1:21:54.760 Happy birthday. Here's a beat that I like, you know 1:21:54.800 --> 1:21:56.640 what I mean? And she took it to Dre and 1:21:56.680 --> 1:21:59.560 Dra called me like two days later, like quick, what's that? 1:21:59.760 --> 1:22:02.559 He said it come to the studio like all right. 1:22:02.640 --> 1:22:04.680 So I go to the studio, walked in. They just 1:22:04.720 --> 1:22:07.800 applauded me for the beat, like he's like, can you 1:22:08.040 --> 1:22:09.640 can you do it over? Can? I want to make 1:22:09.720 --> 1:22:12.960 this a song for for Sherry. I'm like, hell yeah. 1:22:13.040 --> 1:22:14.760 So he put me in Lara by North and I 1:22:14.800 --> 1:22:16.880 went in there with my little bass player due Eric Coombs, 1:22:17.320 --> 1:22:19.400 and we just I just reprinted it all you know 1:22:19.400 --> 1:22:21.240 what I mean? And I like the way it stops 1:22:21.400 --> 1:22:23.160 and starts over in the middle of the song. That 1:22:23.280 --> 1:22:27.519 was like kind of a thing. And she I went 1:22:27.600 --> 1:22:31.639 back to the studio. I gave Dre the tapes, the tapes, 1:22:32.360 --> 1:22:34.519 you know, the tapes go and he gets it and 1:22:34.600 --> 1:22:36.800 I get a call like maybe like maybe less than 1:22:36.800 --> 1:22:38.800 a week, like maybe four days or whatever, and he 1:22:38.920 --> 1:22:41.720 had he had Static Major come in and write the 1:22:41.840 --> 1:22:47.120 lyrics to he heard it. He was so incredible. Bro. 1:22:47.720 --> 1:22:49.479 When I heard I was just the backup for a second. 1:22:49.560 --> 1:22:53.240 How did you find the sample? It was after the 1:22:53.320 --> 1:22:55.920 towers fell. I didn't want to keep watching the news. 1:22:56.200 --> 1:22:58.000 She was depressing me, you know what I mean, because 1:22:58.240 --> 1:23:00.519 at that point, I love New York, Like I was 1:23:00.600 --> 1:23:02.800 sneaking out there and like having fun and ship like, 1:23:03.000 --> 1:23:06.040 you know, and they had these channels. I would just 1:23:06.160 --> 1:23:08.800 change the channel on my Sidellite TV or whatever. And 1:23:08.880 --> 1:23:11.240 there was just one channel that they had called z TV. 1:23:11.360 --> 1:23:12.920 It was like an Indian channel where they was just 1:23:13.160 --> 1:23:16.240 remember TV. I was just demoing it to see if 1:23:16.280 --> 1:23:19.080 you like, you paid you know, extra nine ninety nine 1:23:19.200 --> 1:23:21.600 for the month and you can watch Indian stuff. I'm like, 1:23:22.040 --> 1:23:23.680 what is this? Ship? You know what I mean? You know, 1:23:23.760 --> 1:23:26.760 I'm waking up, you know, sober. I don't even baked, 1:23:26.800 --> 1:23:28.040 you know what I mean. Just got up and just 1:23:28.360 --> 1:23:30.160 start brushing my tee. I just turned it on there, 1:23:30.200 --> 1:23:36.920 you know that whatever. So I'm in the bathroom brushing 1:23:36.960 --> 1:23:46.640 my teeth and I started just grooving, you know, I'm like, 1:23:46.720 --> 1:23:49.439 what the fuck is this on the TV in my room? 1:23:49.920 --> 1:23:51.479 I run in there and I look at the TV 1:23:51.600 --> 1:23:54.040 and see this Indian thing going down and this lady 1:23:54.200 --> 1:24:03.000 was belly dancing and the beat was I was like, 1:24:03.680 --> 1:24:05.640 I need this. I just pushed record on my v 1:24:05.720 --> 1:24:14.840 c R over I take good times, and you know, 1:24:15.439 --> 1:24:17.320 you get lucky, you get that damn dawn down. So 1:24:17.400 --> 1:24:25.080 whatever the VHS due for VHS case, I rewound it 1:24:25.280 --> 1:24:27.120 and I listened to it. All I heard was money. 1:24:27.960 --> 1:24:30.720 I took. I snatched the v C R out, went 1:24:30.760 --> 1:24:32.960 to the studio with d cr r c A out 1:24:33.479 --> 1:24:35.400 and ran it through the board and sampled it into 1:24:35.479 --> 1:24:38.000 my n PC and just arranged it in there. And 1:24:38.080 --> 1:24:40.680 then I was like, I need a bottom beat, and 1:24:40.880 --> 1:24:43.000 to me, the cleanest bottom beat that goes with it 1:24:44.640 --> 1:24:49.360 the same, which lets me know all music is related. 1:24:49.520 --> 1:24:52.479 There ain't nothing new in the sun. But it was 1:24:52.560 --> 1:24:56.080 what I did to do it. You satisfied. That made 1:24:56.160 --> 1:24:59.080 Dre I think understood and like it even more because 1:24:59.080 --> 1:25:01.760 I put it through this oti filter thing, like where 1:25:02.240 --> 1:25:04.120 I took the noise out of it but kept all 1:25:04.160 --> 1:25:07.760 the dynamics. It's like you put like five different band 1:25:07.880 --> 1:25:10.720 pass filters and expanders on the loop and you could 1:25:10.800 --> 1:25:12.920 like take the noise down. It's almost like doing Adobe 1:25:13.479 --> 1:25:16.200 Adobe noise reduction. I cleaned it way up and then 1:25:16.280 --> 1:25:19.120 we added I added them crazy claps and you know, 1:25:19.439 --> 1:25:21.639 I don't snitch out myself, but I got a class 1:25:21.640 --> 1:25:25.320 from well you don't know, because this is where I 1:25:25.400 --> 1:25:30.760 got these class from. Yeah, but and I gave him 1:25:30.800 --> 1:25:33.240 the tapes and it was all recorded and just it 1:25:33.360 --> 1:25:36.040 was just clean like that. I never heard anybody use 1:25:36.120 --> 1:25:38.200 do it to satisfied because everybody tried to use it, 1:25:38.280 --> 1:25:40.800 it would be noisy. But the one we did, I 1:25:40.880 --> 1:25:43.400 stripped it down, made it super clean. So at the 1:25:43.520 --> 1:25:46.160 end of the day, oh wait a minute, so we 1:25:46.280 --> 1:25:51.519 get sued, right, okay, great record, we didn't clear it. 1:25:52.000 --> 1:25:54.160 We get sued, but you know, and it's like half 1:25:54.200 --> 1:25:57.000 a half a billion dollars. But at this point, how 1:25:57.040 --> 1:25:59.719 you gonna sue interscope? This is the richest record company 1:25:59.760 --> 1:26:02.320 in the so I already I wasn't even worried about it, 1:26:02.320 --> 1:26:04.280 and Dre was like, like, don't worry about that. She 1:26:04.520 --> 1:26:06.280 was all freaked out, like, dude, half of we got 1:26:06.400 --> 1:26:08.800 to pay a half, like half a bill. He's like, man, quick, 1:26:08.840 --> 1:26:10.640 don't even worry about that. So they worked it out 1:26:10.680 --> 1:26:12.680 to where they pulled the record or whatever. You know, 1:26:12.760 --> 1:26:15.160 it was just like an advertisement. But you know what 1:26:15.600 --> 1:26:17.920 India did. They used that shit for their own. They 1:26:18.000 --> 1:26:23.960 start sampling it themselves, so it just started an international thing. Man. 1:26:24.080 --> 1:26:27.599 I always wanted to ask you about Moss Bird because 1:26:27.680 --> 1:26:30.360 not I mean I didn't really know much about him 1:26:30.439 --> 1:26:32.720 or whatever, Like what was y'all's relationship and what was 1:26:32.760 --> 1:26:33.040 he like? 1:26:33.200 --> 1:26:37.200 Like as an artist? He's a cool, smart, dope rapper, 1:26:37.720 --> 1:26:39.599 like just incredible from the hood, Like you don't even 1:26:39.760 --> 1:26:41.760 It's like where did you learn this from? Because you know, 1:26:42.240 --> 1:26:44.600 all rappers needed a backstory back then, you know, and 1:26:44.720 --> 1:26:46.400 he for him to just come up from Compton, but 1:26:46.720 --> 1:26:49.120 it's rapping like as good as Biggie. I'm like, this 1:26:49.320 --> 1:26:52.280 just don't exist, you know what I mean. And he 1:26:52.360 --> 1:26:54.439 was only like twenty years old, so he was he 1:26:54.520 --> 1:26:56.320 was signed to my boy Black Tone, and I was like, 1:26:56.400 --> 1:26:58.439 I want to invest in him too, So I started 1:26:58.479 --> 1:27:01.080 investing in him and recording his record and developing him. 1:27:01.680 --> 1:27:03.960 And he got on my down Down Down, and you know, 1:27:04.120 --> 1:27:06.760 other records than you know, Warren g got a hold 1:27:06.800 --> 1:27:09.439 of him and heard up and Snoop. He's rapping with 1:27:09.479 --> 1:27:12.160 Snoop and so he's blowing up. But I, you know, 1:27:12.600 --> 1:27:16.040 I feel bad because I didn't know he was bigger 1:27:16.080 --> 1:27:19.240 than he was and his you know, somebody ran off 1:27:19.280 --> 1:27:20.600 with his publishing. I don't want to say that they 1:27:20.640 --> 1:27:23.000 didn't help him get out of the hood, and he 1:27:23.160 --> 1:27:26.080 made some people jealous. That's all. It was. Bro such 1:27:26.120 --> 1:27:28.599 a great dude. I mean, we had just been working 1:27:28.680 --> 1:27:31.880 on this record, like the Get Naked record. Yeah, we're 1:27:31.920 --> 1:27:34.120 working on that, and we took time off to go 1:27:34.240 --> 1:27:36.880 do Fourth of July with our families, and he got 1:27:36.960 --> 1:27:38.840 killed on fourth of July, and I felt it. I 1:27:38.920 --> 1:27:40.640 wanted him to. I wanted to stay in the studio, like, 1:27:40.680 --> 1:27:43.200 fuck the holiday, let's finish your record because we're almost done. 1:27:43.320 --> 1:27:45.360 Like you need two more songs and you got an album, kid, 1:27:45.880 --> 1:27:48.360 And he was like, man, he love you. Quick man 1:27:48.360 --> 1:27:50.120 it shit hard man, you're making my dream come from 1:27:50.120 --> 1:27:52.400 I'm like, Nigga, you you the next best thing. Brouh. 1:27:52.920 --> 1:27:54.400 And then you know, I get the call that night 1:27:54.439 --> 1:27:57.360 that he was killed, and it was like I had 1:27:57.400 --> 1:27:58.920 to go to the studio and finish this record the 1:27:59.000 --> 1:28:01.120 next day and shock, you know what I mean. But 1:28:01.240 --> 1:28:03.759 I still mixed it, you know what I mean. Cried 1:28:03.760 --> 1:28:06.479 a little bit, drank some Hennessy, fixed it, mixed it 1:28:06.720 --> 1:28:09.840 and it still came out. But I like, how how 1:28:09.920 --> 1:28:12.720 Kendrick Damn used it for King Kunta the Yeah, yeah, 1:28:12.920 --> 1:28:16.160 I cleared that I was like, yeah, that's my other question. 1:28:16.600 --> 1:28:20.040 Quick Screw seven with Josy Whan didn't wrap on it. 1:28:20.320 --> 1:28:22.720 I didn't wrap Davante was mad at me for that. 1:28:23.240 --> 1:28:24.800 I didn't know what to do with it at that point, 1:28:24.920 --> 1:28:28.760 like sometimes you know, you you you know, sometimes will 1:28:28.800 --> 1:28:30.680 be j R. Smith, you passed the ball, we might 1:28:30.800 --> 1:28:39.479 run out of bounds with the motherfucker like I blew 1:28:39.560 --> 1:28:45.040 out Casey and akay. You actually in the studio just 1:28:45.120 --> 1:28:47.439 having fun, you know what I mean, big ass studio 1:28:47.600 --> 1:28:49.600 and I was just trying to do something, you know. 1:28:50.000 --> 1:28:51.400 But I should have finished it. I should have had 1:28:51.439 --> 1:28:54.439 Davante play music to it and whatever. People was mad 1:28:54.479 --> 1:28:56.200 at me for that, like that's not no jokes. She 1:28:56.240 --> 1:29:00.160 record trying some ship. It was just a fillers can 1:29:00.200 --> 1:29:01.160 fucking quitch or whatever. 1:29:01.280 --> 1:29:03.840 All right, wait, hold on, since you mentioned the Joys record, 1:29:03.920 --> 1:29:06.240 Let's bring up another R and B collapse, the joy 1:29:06.320 --> 1:29:07.800 record on the Midnight Life. 1:29:07.800 --> 1:29:09.719 When did you have to lie? How did that come about? 1:29:10.960 --> 1:29:12.880 I was on tour with Raphael Now when they put 1:29:12.920 --> 1:29:15.560 Tony Tony twenty back together and I met her. She 1:29:15.680 --> 1:29:19.639 was married to Gip and I just wanted to work 1:29:19.680 --> 1:29:22.080 with her because, you know, what she was doing on stage, 1:29:22.720 --> 1:29:26.799 her and fucking uh and DiAngelo, I'm like, I gotta 1:29:26.880 --> 1:29:29.679 work with you. So she came in and wrote that ship. 1:29:29.720 --> 1:29:31.360 I brought the little slinky beat with it, you know, 1:29:31.360 --> 1:29:33.639 a little sp twelve hundred. She was just so she's 1:29:33.800 --> 1:29:40.040 such an incredible She's fucking so underrated. Joe Joey Gilliam 1:29:40.120 --> 1:29:42.880 is everything. And Raphael used to tell me, it's like, man, 1:29:42.960 --> 1:29:44.599 you got you got on a trip. When you meet Joy, 1:29:47.280 --> 1:29:50.000 she's hard, like Kenny fun with this lady singing. 1:29:50.160 --> 1:29:53.200 All right, I got one last question. I'm proud to 1:29:53.280 --> 1:29:59.960 say that I was heavy and in jay Z Yeah 1:30:01.000 --> 1:30:04.200 about the black guy. I was like, remember that I 1:30:04.560 --> 1:30:05.880 begged him to reach out to you. 1:30:06.280 --> 1:30:12.519 That's dope, bro, But thank you. Why did you? Why 1:30:12.600 --> 1:30:16.240 didn't you give him? I didn't have I didn't. I 1:30:16.320 --> 1:30:18.080 didn't have that music at that point that we were 1:30:18.120 --> 1:30:20.519 in the studio in New York, because he wanted to 1:30:20.600 --> 1:30:22.000 do the beat in front of him. He wants you 1:30:22.040 --> 1:30:23.680 to do the beat in front of him. So that 1:30:23.840 --> 1:30:27.640 was when I when I tried to stretch out, like 1:30:27.840 --> 1:30:30.120 you know, I was writing string parts and a bassline. 1:30:30.479 --> 1:30:33.439 He's like, no, no, we don't have time for that. 1:30:33.760 --> 1:30:35.600 Let me it's something. Let me just press play. You 1:30:35.680 --> 1:30:38.120 had the one you sent me. I'm like, I don't 1:30:38.160 --> 1:30:39.800 remember the one I sent you. He was like, well, 1:30:39.920 --> 1:30:42.599 just what you got and I start pressing playing. Then 1:30:42.640 --> 1:30:49.920 he heard that one and he liked the drama of it, 1:30:50.320 --> 1:30:53.840 and I was like, damn this one. I think we 1:30:53.960 --> 1:30:56.639 all were And it was supposed to be something more 1:30:56.680 --> 1:30:59.200 than that, because he had that idea of doing Justify 1:30:59.320 --> 1:31:01.519 my Thug and Madonna was supposed to sing on it 1:31:01.880 --> 1:31:06.120 and she flaked on this. That was the draw. She 1:31:06.280 --> 1:31:07.960 was gonna be on it, and she flaked and we 1:31:08.080 --> 1:31:10.920 had to do something else. And you know, I want 1:31:11.160 --> 1:31:14.920 you to to make another record, and really, where you 1:31:15.000 --> 1:31:16.600 really get to do it? Well, he let me do me, 1:31:17.040 --> 1:31:18.920 you know, because I got some surpey ship right now. 1:31:19.000 --> 1:31:21.080 That's how I figure my music is. It's surpie I 1:31:21.200 --> 1:31:23.200 share this with you. Since she's talking about flexi tones, 1:31:23.560 --> 1:31:25.200 I was in the studio with Bruno Mars on a 1:31:25.240 --> 1:31:28.680 couple occasions, Yo and twenty four care magic. If you 1:31:28.760 --> 1:31:34.160 hear the flexi tone, Oh somebody back to the jay 1:31:34.240 --> 1:31:36.960 Z thing. Oh. Charlomagne de Gud was like, fuck that record, 1:31:37.240 --> 1:31:41.840 it's like black album is dope. Without that record, It's like, hey, man, man, 1:31:41.920 --> 1:31:45.160 I just yeah, you gotta do it again. I do 1:31:45.280 --> 1:31:48.840 over yeah, because you know I could write the way Drake, 1:31:48.960 --> 1:31:52.080 I mean, dre the way Jay writes. He writes drama 1:31:52.479 --> 1:31:55.479 like he'll he'll follow the drama of your track. And 1:31:55.760 --> 1:31:58.840 I got theme records. That's so perfect for him right now, 1:31:59.720 --> 1:32:02.839 you know. I mean like that, our big dramatic dope records, 1:32:02.880 --> 1:32:05.040 big horns, all that ship. I just got to get 1:32:05.040 --> 1:32:05.799 to him again. 1:32:05.880 --> 1:32:09.040 Quick for real. Man, you you're one of the greatest. 1:32:09.800 --> 1:32:14.120 Yeah ever man, this is you know, and us too. 1:32:15.120 --> 1:32:18.600 Than you, And thank you man, shout out the h 1:32:18.800 --> 1:32:22.200 out the buzzy and the way like you did one 1:32:22.200 --> 1:32:24.519 of my list things. You did your on TV raps. 1:32:24.520 --> 1:32:27.240 You're performing and you took the bit from hallm Nights. 1:32:28.520 --> 1:32:30.599 I want to know what Quick is trying to say. 1:32:30.760 --> 1:32:35.760 And dope. I was so happy that Eddie Murphy did 1:32:35.800 --> 1:32:40.680 that movie and his character name was Quick, but it 1:32:40.840 --> 1:32:42.800 was dope. I put that ship all over way too 1:32:42.840 --> 1:32:44.519 funky and when I sent it to them to clear 1:32:44.560 --> 1:32:47.439 because we was clearing ship back then, Eddie Murphy and 1:32:47.880 --> 1:32:51.960 was that Columbia Pas Columbia said No. I was like, 1:32:52.160 --> 1:32:56.080 I'm clearing the pay for like how much you up quick? No, 1:33:01.720 --> 1:33:03.400 I ain't have my ass whip since I was born. 1:33:03.640 --> 1:33:05.160 We're still looking for the doctor. 1:33:07.400 --> 1:33:09.679 Ladies and gentlemen on behalf of Supreme. 1:33:10.840 --> 1:33:15.360 It's like you unpaid Bill paid Bill and Bill yo 1:33:15.600 --> 1:33:18.599 with you top five bro, straight up for real man. 1:33:18.880 --> 1:33:21.280 Yeah, and Sugar Steve Yes. 1:33:21.439 --> 1:33:25.160 Hey, shout out to the Sugar Network, everybody the Sugar Network. 1:33:25.200 --> 1:33:26.720 I just want to share this, y'all. I helped. There's 1:33:26.720 --> 1:33:28.760 a lot of producers. I want to shout out that 1:33:28.800 --> 1:33:35.519 I helped Tis Martin. Yes, okay again, my beloved Warren Campbell, 1:33:35.680 --> 1:33:39.639 of course, g one. There's a couple of other people 1:33:39.680 --> 1:33:41.840 who have some success. You remember who else I helped 1:33:42.960 --> 1:33:44.880 a lot? Huh, A lot of people that I just 1:33:45.080 --> 1:33:50.320 helped him. Thank you, bro. I mean problem we forgot 1:33:50.400 --> 1:33:55.400 to talk about the talk box. Oh my god. Roger 1:33:55.520 --> 1:33:59.160 told me. He said he told Shirley Murdock and she 1:33:59.240 --> 1:34:02.240 told me after as she said that Roger thought that 1:34:02.360 --> 1:34:04.639 I was the best out of the people that did 1:34:04.680 --> 1:34:09.400 it because I understood his nuances and I would play 1:34:09.680 --> 1:34:12.439 what he played like nuance wise, because anybody could put 1:34:12.479 --> 1:34:14.559 the tobe in him off and play a key or whatever. 1:34:14.960 --> 1:34:18.639 But he like the way I would play just certain licks. Yeah, 1:34:18.640 --> 1:34:23.120 I wrote that for him right after he died. Yeah, 1:34:23.320 --> 1:34:32.720 I sampled that sample is from Sparkle Aretha Franklin, I 1:34:32.840 --> 1:34:37.400 get high. Yeah, I just congratulated, but that was Yeah, 1:34:37.479 --> 1:34:38.000 that was for him. 1:34:38.040 --> 1:34:38.160 Bro. 1:34:38.800 --> 1:34:41.160 Well I played a lot better now too, like I've 1:34:41.400 --> 1:34:44.200 learned some more things. I got better than toys. Well, 1:34:44.240 --> 1:34:49.160 hopefully one day we'll work together, you know. Besides when came, 1:34:50.280 --> 1:34:52.040 that was one of the most fun times in my life. 1:34:52.080 --> 1:34:54.439 I'm in the studio with David Chappelle and I forgot 1:34:54.600 --> 1:34:57.040 just how funny is He made a joke and I 1:34:57.200 --> 1:34:58.920 was embarrassed to laugh in front of him, so I 1:34:58.960 --> 1:35:06.479 took off running out. My god, nobody's that funny man. Yea, 1:35:06.560 --> 1:35:08.720 it should be against the law. Yeah, all right, well, 1:35:09.120 --> 1:35:12.400 thank you. Get him on the show one day you think. 1:35:13.160 --> 1:35:15.200 Anyway, This is Quest Love Supreme. 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