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Speaker 1: Hi am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling,

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Speaker 1: Railvalr No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth, Vely,

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Speaker 1: that's good, Ollie. Are we going to do an email episode?

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Speaker 1: Let's do it, emis amos, You're gonna got to hear

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Speaker 1: us emails. I feel like I'm definitely not gonna cry

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Speaker 1: because I'm in Serbia, and like, when you're in Serbia,

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Speaker 1: you don't really cry about things. This is true. You're

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Speaker 1: very hardened. Yeah, it's a tough little city over here,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be good too, just because you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: you are. Yeah, it was gnarly. I went back on

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Speaker 1: this other one called Trienttelex, and I went back on Lexaprov.

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Speaker 1: It's just been it's been crazy. I'm trying to get

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Speaker 1: right for this job. I need to like be able

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Speaker 1: to function correctly, you know, otherwise I'll just be like

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Speaker 1: a mess and people will be like, what is wrong

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Speaker 1: with this fucking guy on set. Oh jeez, all right,

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Speaker 1: well good, whatever you gotta do, just I just want

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Speaker 1: you to make sure you can sweat. Yeah, sweating has

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Speaker 1: been good. Oh good, Well that's because you've been off

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Speaker 1: the lexapro. I know, I know, I know, all right,

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Speaker 1: all right, one or the other. Sorry, we gotta go

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Speaker 1: fuck my problems. One thing, oh anova, because Ed'll get

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Speaker 1: my lexa pros on. Okay, should I go first? Here

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Speaker 1: you go first? All right? Hi, Kate and Oliver. I

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Speaker 1: want to start by saying I'm a huge fan of

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Speaker 1: the podcast and of both of you. Your banter, empathy

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Speaker 1: and wit is a pleasure to listen to and laugh

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Speaker 1: along with. For context, I'm twenty two and the middle

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Speaker 1: child of three. Some of my favorite episodes are the

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Speaker 1: ones involving psychologists psychiatrist experts. The first episode I listened

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Speaker 1: to involved birth order and its influence on personality. Although

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Speaker 1: I never lacked or longed for more love from my parents,

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Speaker 1: there's definitely a difference when it comes to middle children.

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Speaker 1: H I hear you. I found myself being more independent

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Speaker 1: When I was in college, I realized I carried a

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Speaker 1: I felt like I didn't get the childhood I should

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Speaker 1: That's when I found your podcast. When I heard Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: Klueger say one of the for lack of a better,

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Speaker 1: I felt slightly validated. There were definitely moments growing up

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Speaker 1: I felt a lack of individuality. Family members, obviously not

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Speaker 1: I was always the inner attainment at family functions, the

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Speaker 1: one to make everyone laugh. I feel like now is

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Speaker 1: a good time to clarify that I love my siblings

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Speaker 1: and my childhood was filled with so many amazing memories.

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Speaker 1: There is not enough room for all of them. Lisa

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Speaker 1: so grateful for my siblings. We share memories inside, jokes, tears,

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Speaker 1: Even though I had a vastly different childhood than you

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Speaker 1: and your amazing guests, I find myself relating to many

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Speaker 1: of the stories. You've created an environment of honesty and

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Speaker 1: myself and my relationships I likely never would have. Kate

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Speaker 1: and Oliver, You've created gold with this podcast, and I

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Speaker 1: just want to say thank you, Sending love and laughter

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Speaker 1: to you both. Maggie. Thanks Maggie. I love this. You

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Speaker 1: brave woman. Way to go. You know, I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: one of those things. And I know you've heard this,

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Speaker 1: Like as a woman, I've had multiple friends, multiple people

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Speaker 1: in my life with breast cancer. Our grandmother had breast cancer.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is you know, one of those terrible

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Speaker 1: things and you're going to get through it. And you're right,

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Speaker 1: laughter is like the best medicine ever. Yes, it's just

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Speaker 1: so true. It's just so true. And I know you

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Speaker 1: probably hear this, but like anybody going through that, and

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Speaker 1: it's just you know what, your your courage is inspiring

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Speaker 1: to everybody. That's just that's just the truth. And and

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Speaker 1: to like laugh through it is the best it actually

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Speaker 1: is scientifically healing. Oh, I know you even talk about that,

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Speaker 1: because I haven't. I was thinking about this. I thought

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Speaker 1: about it a few times. Actually, I haven't had one

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Speaker 1: of those big ass crazy laughs in a long time,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I noticed, you know, it's like, wow,

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Speaker 1: I haven't like had that, Like can't bread Kelly laugh,

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Speaker 1: gonna pee in my pants? Well, can I tell you?

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you what happened to me? And and Caylee,

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Speaker 1: I hope you'll appreciate this. I reunited with Catherine Hahn

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Speaker 1: on this movie. We're shooting knives out right now, and

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Speaker 1: Catherine and I did How to Lose a Guy in

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Speaker 1: Ten Days together, but it was her first movie, so

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Speaker 1: How to Lose a Guy in Ten Days was her

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Speaker 1: first movie, and we were able to like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: she was at Rider's baby shower, like we were really

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Speaker 1: close for a really long time, and then our careers

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Speaker 1: just like took us in different places and we we

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Speaker 1: really didn't keep in touch, which was like that, which

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Speaker 1: is honestly will never happen again. Now. I haven't laughed

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Speaker 1: this hard. It's so long, Oliver, Oliver. But it's also

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Speaker 1: like like you can laugh with somebody and someone's funny,

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Speaker 1: but you can know someone's humor and like feel it

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Speaker 1: and like laugh so hard that it's uncontrollable. And I've

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Speaker 1: had like two we both Catherine and I have had

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Speaker 1: two laughs that were like on our knees funny, and

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Speaker 1: one of them made me pee in my pants and

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Speaker 1: I haven't done that. I'm not kidding. There was alcohol involved.

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Speaker 1: It was a tinkle. It was more of a tinkle,

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Speaker 1: not a peek, but I was We were walking, we

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Speaker 1: went to Italy together and we were walking from a

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Speaker 1: restaurant out in the wilderness to our rooms and we

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Speaker 1: had been cocktailing and she just did something that was

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Speaker 1: so damp funny and I literally tinkled. I could not

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Speaker 1: I couldn't control because I had to go. Was I

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Speaker 1: fit the control And I was like, y'll stop, and oh,

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Speaker 1: it's just the best, but you're right. And then I

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Speaker 1: realized I haven't laughed that hard in so long. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's important. Oh and then we had a really we

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Speaker 1: had a really big laugh. What was our big laugh? Honey?

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Speaker 1: That was so funny that we couldn't stop laughing. There

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Speaker 1: was one where we just we were laughing so hard.

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Speaker 1: I think it had something I must have like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but something happened and it was just so funny, funny,

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Speaker 1: and I hadn't Danny laugh that hard. I also think

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Speaker 1: it might be really good for sex, because there's something

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Speaker 1: about laughing and like when you feel like like your

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Speaker 1: body it does something to your endorphins or something that

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Speaker 1: like makes you feel light, like lighter and more like

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Speaker 1: maybe it does something to your testosterol levels or something.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. There's something Well when when it's when

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Speaker 1: Aaron and I, when it like just connects on that

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Speaker 1: other level and then we both finished, then we both

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Speaker 1: start like hysterically laughing, like oh my god. It was like,

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Speaker 1: how's that possible? How is it possibly that good? I

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Speaker 1: wonder if there's a connection with sex and laughter, there's

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Speaker 1: got to be somewhere. I wonder if it like fires

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Speaker 1: in the same part of the brain or something. It

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Speaker 1: just depends the context, because if you pull your pants

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Speaker 1: down and then you know, she starts laughing at you,

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Speaker 1: then then you've got I mean, but do you or

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Speaker 1: does I become like the greatest ice breaking moment of

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Speaker 1: all time? Because I want to be with the guy

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Speaker 1: that if he does that and I laugh, he laughs, right,

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Speaker 1: He's like I know, right, I mean no, but it's

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Speaker 1: not I mean, obviously you're not laughing at you know,

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Speaker 1: something You're not laughing at something you're laughing at like

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Speaker 1: the moment of something you know, yeah, right, like something

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Speaker 1: strikes you funny about the moment of like a guy

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Speaker 1: event pulling down your pants. Yeah, oh god, oh well

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Speaker 1: that even Kayla, Kyla, thank you, and oh there's one more. Hi,

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Speaker 1: Kate and Oliver. My name is Vicky and I'm from Slovakia.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I want to thank you for all

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Speaker 1: you do. I don't have siblings, but I have a

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Speaker 1: big families, so I don't feel alone. Because of your podcast,

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Speaker 1: I found out that I experienced almost every sibling experience

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Speaker 1: with my cousins. Thank you again, and sorry for my English.

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Speaker 1: It's not my first language, love vickips. Don't try to

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Speaker 1: guess where Slovakia is. Nobody knows. Well a few things

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Speaker 1: we I think. Yeah, I got I know Slovakia is.

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Speaker 1: And your English is great. What are you talking? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with this English, VICKI, it's perfect too.

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Speaker 1: Slovakia Slovenia. My mother in law spent a month in Slovenia,

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Speaker 1: which I'm assuming is very close to Slovakia. It could

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Speaker 1: be thousands of miles away. I would have known. I mean,

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Speaker 1: maybe it just sounds sounds the same, she was, Ricky,

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Speaker 1: no idea. Well, she was saying she feels like she

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Speaker 1: is a very sibling experience with her cousins. And yes,

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Speaker 1: and I, you know, our kids are really close, and

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Speaker 1: I would say that at times it does feel, especially

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Speaker 1: when we're together, a lot, very sibling, more sibling than

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Speaker 1: cousiny agreed totally. I mean that's not we don't have that,

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Speaker 1: you know, with our cousins. But I think our kids

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Speaker 1: for sure have a sibling experience. Dave might feel kind

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Speaker 1: of offended by that, but that's fine. Dave doesn't know

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Speaker 1: what a podcast is. My uncle Mike. Uncle Mikey probably

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Speaker 1: listens to our podcast every once in a while. May,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, Michael, we have the best cousins ever.

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Speaker 1: They're so funny they are. And well, my name okay, Oliver,

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Speaker 1: I rob you. I love you too, I rub you

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Speaker 1: from Mark. Sibling Revelry is executive produced by Kate Hudson

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Speaker 1: and Oliver Hudson. Producer is Alison. President, editor is Josh Wendish.

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Speaker 1: Music by Mark Hudson aka Uncle Mark. If you want

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