WEBVTT - #380 - Glasses Malone 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.240 Watch up with a g l a double dollar sign, 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:05.160 the shot that's right, Glasses Alone, and you can check 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:08.600 me out on my homeboy the Bootleg cav podcast Kicking 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.160 These Facts man, because CAV tripping everything ain't a classic. 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:18.279 CAV White Guys. Glasses Malone is on the show. We 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:24.080 have his new album, Cancel These Nuts, Cancel These Nuts. 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:29.400 It's here. Yeah, got the hard copies, old school. I 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:33.400 haven't seen a real like dope CD in a while. 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:36.440 It's really dope too. I'm like, man, we did a team, 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:39.400 we really put that together and it's nice. Came out 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:45.120 so nice. Oh yeah, this is a real CD. Yeah yeah, 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:46.680 replicated and. 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:48.280 People can go online and get the autograph version. 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:49.760 The crypstore dot Com. 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:52.199 I like that. Let me ask you something, when you 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:55.240 do something called the cryptstore dot com, are there other 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:57.200 crips that feel some type of way that they're because 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:57.480 you know. 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:00.000 There's there's so many cribs. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:04.320 There's krypt Cola, there was Mike, there was the crips 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:08.200 that claimed like cryp LLC that tried to suit Nipsy's yea, 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:13.040 I was funny. So you have the crypt Store. Does 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.760 anyone owned the crypts? I don't know on the business side, 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:18.679 I don't know. I wouldn't even really worry about it. 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:20.160 I wouldn't even think twice about it. 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:24.160 Seems like a non crypt thing to do the crib store. No, no, no, 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:25.679 I'm saying, like a non crypt thing to do. 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.479 To be like, I trademarked that, it's definitely a non 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.360 crypt thing to do. I don't know any crypts actively 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:37.120 looking to copyright that term the crips. I just would say, 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:39.440 it's just a bit broad, you know. I think most 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:41.880 cribs look at it like it's just a broad concept. 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:44.759 We all being right in the eye of the storm. 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.680 We all understand crippin is a much more diverse thing 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.120 and everybody has their own claim to it as far 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.040 as Los Angeles goes and now across the world. 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:57.520 I listened to the album. My favorite is the twenty 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:02.559 one STEMI Flow. That's tight. I like us with the Smoke. 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.840 One of the guys La Giants had La Giants are 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.080 on that record. That was both of them. The first 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.720 verse that they did it was super dope. When they 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:16.600 were like Kendall Jenner wouldn't have her lips, Oh yeah, yeah, 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.040 that's Joey Joey West. 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.680 Yeah, you're right, and he went right before Cam and 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:24.200 you know that's Cams That's right. We think West Coast 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:28.800 Cam's wheelhouse. Bro, Yeah, that's his wheelhouse. So for Joey 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:29.919 to go, he got off. 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.680 Yeah, no, he did his thing. Man was dope. It's 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:35.440 kind of like it feels like a little like obviously 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:38.920 your album, but you obviously have the La Giants heavily 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:40.880 intertwined throughout the project. 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:43.240 Yeah, they just feit what was going on at the time. 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:44.800 Are they like Blue Division? 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.240 No, No, they got they got their own label, Giant Life. 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.880 I just market their stuff. Okay, So I mean I 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.360 guess they are Blue Division to some degree, but really 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:55.000 it was about helping them build their own thing. 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:59.880 Yeah, you took a liking to them and wanted to help. 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:03.799 I've been knowing them probably twenty years, you know what 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.760 I mean. I've always liked them, But I just think, uh, 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.480 God created a space. I'm forgive me for getting all 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.920 extra spiritual, but he created the space. And I realized 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.000 we had so many things in common this late in 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:17.160 our life, right, and so shit, we just started working 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.720 and they was talking about jumping on records, and I 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.600 just as long as they had fun and they end 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.200 up being like way better you know what I mean 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:25.840 than I ever could have thought. Like I would have 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:28.520 never thought walking into it. We was gonna be making 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:30.760 this many records, right Yeah? 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:32.480 Cause wa you guys. I mean, I feel like you've 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:33.880 been pushing them for a couple of years now. 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:35.320 Guess second year. 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:40.280 Let's swap the court out this tripping yesterday? 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:42.280 Uh, what kind of Mike is that? What kind of 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:43.600 XLR this is? 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.840 Oh? Wow? Court? Yeah yeah, but just one of the 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:51.320 other courts. Shit, what was it doing? 0:03:51.600 --> 0:04:14.640 It was just cutting out. It was doing it yesterday. 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:17.840 M school who won't retire at hell for sure? 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:20.600 Your road makes the same. 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:22.719 I'm buying something, man, Road to give you something. 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.960 Do you have a contact. Yeah, I've spent so much 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:28.880 fucking money with Road. I just bought the little Road 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:34.000 duo just for the road. Funny, dude, Road, I'd be watching. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.320 I'm like a road geek. I love their Road backpack. 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:37.800 I was about to buy it last night. Tell him 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:43.760 send me one of their backpacks. Yeah, I gotta. 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:45.960 I'll tell Greg you reaching out to have Greg reach 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:46.320 out to you. 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:52.200 The I just bought him. I just bought him. I 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:56.640 ordered him four hundred. I just sent like the last 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.960 like seventy hours. I spent a rock with Road. 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:02.480 They've been doing a lot of stuff, all right. 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:08.080 Roland, Okay, we were talking about Mike Cord cutout. We're 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:10.839 talking about LA giants. Obviously they're all over the project. Yeah, 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:13.120 they just fit. They just fit. 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:15.080 We the same type of It's crazy. It is because 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:18.480 all of these artists I've worked with, I can't say 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:21.160 everybody had as much of an LA experience as I have. Right, 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.440 everybody hasn't been a gang banger. If they have, they 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.640 haven't low they haven't had a low rider, been on Crenshall. 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.120 If they have, you know, maybe they never show dope 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:33.080 if they have, Maybe they never street race, maybe they 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.919 never functioned. The LA Johns was like the first acts 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:38.840 that I worked with. To me, that did all of 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:40.159 the same LA things. 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:44.479 That I did, including risk your life for some good Chicken. 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.600 Yes, yeah, yeah, It's fucking truth, which is which is 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.160 song number seven ye Jim Dandy. But it's like that, 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.760 it's so many different places. It's funny because that's like 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.599 a TV show. I'm finishing up. I rolled and I'm finished. 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:58.040 Shoot Van Lathan, a couple of hombies helping me to 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:01.800 produce it, but dying at your own wrist. That's the 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:02.600 experience in l A. 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:04.920 Yeah, there are always people who are like, yo, man, 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.120 there's some great because what's the the o G Louisiana 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.880 Chicken is where? And it's like if you're over dangerous, 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:14.640 it's dangerous. But that's how it is. 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.320 So Jim Dandy's and Denver Line Bloods right. Then you 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:21.200 have Hawkins and Cross Street from the Nicks and Gardens, 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:25.240 the Bonnie and Louise, the best chili cheese frozen Compton 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.760 is right in the mob hoood. You just kind of 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:29.160 got to figure out how to get to all of 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:30.560 these places and get away with it. 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.040 And when you go, you gotta like really just not 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.640 have on your your stuff right like you. 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:41.080 I'm past that people knew who who you are, but 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:43.159 I'm saying it's been a long time. They could smell 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:46.320 a crypt like people could smell gang bang and other 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.440 gang bankers can smell other gang bangers. That's why if 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.560 they like hit you up where you're from, like, oh man, 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.240 where who's your mama? Where you live, where you grew up, 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:58.360 and you know they'll smell out they could tell yeah. 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.400 I mean I've always had always tells me and I 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.320 don't know if this is good advice for bad advice, 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:06.320 but he said, if I ever end up somewhere, and 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:08.240 I have a couple of times where I was getting 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.560 gas somewhere and I called a head. This happened, like 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.200 he posted it on Instagram because I hit him and 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.800 I was like, yo, I'm right here, am I good 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:18.880 to get something to eat? I'm getting gas And he's like, 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.520 what the fuck are you doing there? Yeah, but he 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:23.640 had always say He's like, yo, if you end up 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:26.080 somewhere and you get banged on, just start acting like 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:27.760 real frantic, like you're in the middle of a crazy 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.000 fight with your girl and you got lost. Like man, 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:32.840 my bad, bro, Sorry, man, fucking fight with my bitch. Bro. 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:33.720 I don't know what. 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.160 Because that's a universal masking things, right, we all be like. 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:38.680 Man, I just got caught cheating. 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.920 She fucking had me get out the card. You know, 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.040 That's what Head says. It's true. It works. It just 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:47.760 act like you're in the middle of a crazy fight 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.600 with your girl, you don't know where you're at, and 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:53.280 you know, get on your phone and like it should 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:54.200 be all right. Yeah, yeah. 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.760 Now, for the most part, it's okay. I mean, gag 0:07:56.840 --> 0:08:00.720 banging is the most underrated part about game and they're 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:01.640 pretty understanding. 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:06.120 Yeah, if they sober. If they're sober like most humans, 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:07.840 that's like, hey, I've been say it's a pretty general 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:08.920 statement for the world. 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.360 But game banging it get worse when you know you're drunk, 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.040 because you get superpowered and people be charged. 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.080 Up, like my wife when she gets mad if she's drunk, 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.640 it's over latina. 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.720 Yeah, yeah, that's Spanish cuss words, Spotish cuss words. 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.640 Yeah, there's a lot of Spanish cust words. I've been called. Okay, 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.800 So if someone gets your CD physically and they look 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:32.520 at the back, you have obviously you got West Coast. 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:35.240 Can you got sugar Free? Shout out the sugar free legend. 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.520 I need you to help me get connected with him. Sure, 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:40.720 I got you, I got you. But then you also 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:44.680 have Samuel Jackson and the Notorious Big listed his features. Yeah, yeah, 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:47.959 explain both. 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:50.960 I just feel like it's always weird when you're looking 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.000 at a track list and then somebody's voice pop up, 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.440 like who the fuck is that? And I just put 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:58.960 that there, like obviously on Spotify and try to infringe 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.400 on their audiences. But I wanted people to know that 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:03.480 that voice you hear is gonna be biggies and his 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:07.400 voice is gonna Beael Jackson, Martin Luther King or Samuel Jackson. Okay, 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:08.800 that's fair Cedric Entertainment. 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:12.480 You also have the guy who plays Jesus in the 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:16.320 music video for Johns Shout to Slink Johnson. He did 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:18.319 a really good job on Freddie Gibbs album too. He 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.520 kind of was like a he did one of the 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:23.079 skits on his album. Uh, and he did great on 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:27.600 your music video. Yeah. Uh, what's to say something shamful business, 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:32.600 something for the business, which is an ode to Uh. 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:35.000 It's weird because right there's. 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.959 A man with the dazzled anklets. 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:42.640 That and just just straight men impeding on women's beauty 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.840 standards in the first place, completely topped about. 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.480 I tell him all the time, straight man, IRUs my 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.760 shooter over there got two earrings in that. 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.400 You know what's funny that thirty forty years ago that 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.520 would have been looked round at twenty years ago. That's normal. 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:57.920 When I was doing my dad used to always tell 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.680 me if you have an hearing on a certain it meant. 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:01.160 That you were gay. 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:06.160 Yeah, right, and if you have both, it's like what 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:09.000 girls do. Yeah, that's true. And then that used to 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:10.240 be that way. That used to be that way. Then 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:12.199 r Kelly kicked that down because he had them things 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.480 him and AI. You know what I'm saying. But now 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.640 this album in general, because you're listen man, if y'all 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.439 don't follow Glasses on Twitter, he's one of the most frustrating, 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:23.920 entertaining follows ever. There are very few things that I 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.960 so me and you. It's funny because I'm getting ready 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:29.319 to read you the whole set, and a lot of 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:31.800 my set is going to be dedicated. I bought a 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:35.120 Doggie Style on vinyl, the OG vinyl, and I bought 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:38.719 the OG cassette. I have had three copies of this 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:42.199 sear But you and I are very aligned with some 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:47.280 hip hop opinions, some very very some and most of 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.599 most of the ones that we're very passionately dug in 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:51.400 on have to do with Snoop and have to do 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.680 with Doggy Style. Because Doggie Sell is the most important hip. 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:56.679 Hop album in my entire life, sure, and it's the 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:58.680 most it's the greatest one of all and. 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:02.000 I I kind of have like a three album where 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:04.320 I could be like, there's this my goat album. Right, 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:06.680 it's nomadic as doggie styles probably get Richard I trying 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:08.760 it in any order that those could be one, two, 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:12.000 or three on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday or whatever. But 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.480 Doggies out is the most important in my life. That's fair. 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:19.480 And in my opinion, Snoop Dogg somehow, while being the 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:20.920 most famous rapper in. 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:24.200 The world by far, still underrated. 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:28.120 He's underrated, Yes, agreed, How is this a possibility? By 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.120 the way, my bucket list interview I hit his guy 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.920 keV once a month and I'm like, dude, I can 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:36.120 it's my bucket list all time interview. If I can 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.240 interview Snoop, I might cry because I want to explain 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.880 to him me getting Doggy style on accident change the 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:44.680 path of my life. But how is Snoop still underrated? 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:49.600 How does that happen? 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:51.960 Well, he's the greatest hip hop artist of all time, right, 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:56.160 but if you favor certain styles, maybe Snoop won't fit 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.800 that style. So immediately, he's from the West, so that's 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:03.120 going to immediately take credit from the cornerstone of hip 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.480 hop in New York or the East Coast. That's gonna 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.920 be a cornerstone issue that he's not from the rights. 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:09.760 He from the West. 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:14.400 His style is like a one off, you know what 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.199 I mean. To me, is like a descendant of like 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:20.000 Shorten LLL cooj super smooth, you know what I mean. 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:21.920 But you can see he's such a hip hop kid. 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.480 Like first videos, you can see the special ed in 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.240 his movements, how he moved and how smooth he was. 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:32.920 I think the majority of it is one, he's from 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:36.280 the West Coast and not from the East. Two would 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:45.320 probably be he's alive. He's alive. That's real, real shit, 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.719 you know what I mean. He's alive and that's really important, 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.360 which is even greater because you look at him now 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:56.319 and he's probably like still the most recognizable, you know, 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:57.600 rapper on the planet. 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:01.040 But I do say that, I say there's certain artists that, 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:03.880 if God forbid they passed away, would shoot to the 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.160 greatest of all. And I really think think that about Kendrick. 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.800 Like I tell people, like, yeah, we really kind of 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.040 don't appreciate Kendrick like we should, because if he passed 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:15.280 away tomorrow for whatever reason, he's the goat. He's at 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.520 least he's at least like solidified in that conversation and 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:19.920 the same way we talk about Pocket. 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.360 It's really dope. And I try not to comment on 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:25.520 dot because you know, DoD is my friend and somebody 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:26.079 I love. 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.280 You guys have done records together, way way deeper. 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:32.080 You know, Nigga really my partner. But it's like he's 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:35.800 also a generation underminds. So I have to listen to 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.439 a lot of younger people tell me versus me giving 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:41.240 because I have niggas that I'm looking like, you know, 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:45.080 Scarface Star. It's like, as much as I love Dodd 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.600 is like Scarface, you know he raised me, DoD is like. 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.200 Well, I would just say, because like we put Biggie 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:54.360 in certain conversations based on two albums when he was alive. 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:57.920 We got two albums. That's them. Them albums ship that well, 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.400 you know those are incredible. But what I'm saying as 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:01.920 if you if you look at just like. 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.840 If something happen to die, it'd be frantic. It'd be frantic. 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:09.920 It would probably it would probably reshape hip hop at 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:10.360 that point. 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:17.360 Personally, I think unfortunately people sometimes when they leave prematurely, 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:20.360 they get appreciated more. And I think we've seen that 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.840 happen a lot of time and time again over the 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:23.760 last decade, or. 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.080 Their spirit can be free to roam about the cabin 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.000 because I think a lot of times we don't get 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.040 into like even with nip Right, I always felt like 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:34.680 people look at gang bangers and feel like I can't relate, 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.160 even though, like you know, Niggas is regular human beings, 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.520 but they can't relate. And I think it became so 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:45.120 important for people to get what he was on when 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:48.000 he passed away because it made him mortal. People really 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.800 look at game banging like like a he man sport, like, 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.360 oh man, if they die, I don't care, or you know, 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.720 or they can't die, or they did something to die, 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:59.480 or they imprison you know, versus some dude just really 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:01.800 running a business and having a problem with somebody taking 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.480 his life. And I think there's nothing more human than that. 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:06.040 So I think that's what happened with him. 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.040 Well back to the Snoop thing. I think what happened 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.240 with Snoop was when we look at things to like 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:16.720 a biased hip hop you know, I guess goggle because 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.200 for whatever reason, a lot of the taste makers and 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:21.760 hip hop over the years have been very East Coast biased. 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:23.160 I mean for New York. 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:26.920 I think if you think of like Doggy Style, I 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:30.800 think Snoop's early on contractual shit got in the way 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:34.680 of him probably being looked at in the same way 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.400 we look at Nas. Or I won't even say Nas 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.680 because Nas had some issues with his discography. But let's 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.280 say jay Z right because Dog. I think dog Father 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:47.160 was an album I enjoyed, but it wasn't Doggy Style. 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:51.840 And then there was the kind of the disconnection with 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.440 death Row, and then he went to No Limit, and 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:58.400 then then that first No Limit album was Forgettable. No 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:00.320 Limit Top Dog was my Ship. I love that. 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:01.720 I love the Last Last Meal. 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:03.720 The Last Meal was my ship. But I think like 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:06.840 it's it's almost like we kind of lost some years 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.120 of peak Snoop in the way that we prop back 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:13.840 because obviously the Doctor Dre relationship dissolves, so that that 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:17.400 mattered a lot, you know what I mean. And then 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.800 he has this other run in the middle of his 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:24.920 career with Forrell and the Blue Carpet Treatment, Rhythm and Gangster. 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:29.040 Records, Oh my God, that we just like forget about. Yeah, 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.800 even that whole album he did with Pharrell was it 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:34.400 called Bush. Yeah, it was dope as fuck. 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:37.280 So I just think that like man, for whatever reason, 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:41.440 like we really didn't get to really enjoy like peak 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.480 Snoop dog in the way that we should have because 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:48.080 of things that were probably outside of his control, because 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:49.760 there was the murder, the murder trial. 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:54.680 So let's so let's actually, let's actually clear frame. Let's 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.800 not talk about what we're reading on Wikipedia. Let's go 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:01.000 by what really happened. Right in nineteen ninety two, we 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:03.640 got the first Snoop Dogg album, No disrespect to Doctor 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:04.439 Dre the Chronic. 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:07.720 That's the first Snoop Dogg album. Fair enough, shout out 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:11.760 to Dre Big Bruh coming out party. He's on fourteen 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.040 to the fifteen Records who wrote pretty much the record. Right, 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:17.840 that's the first Snoop album to crime. Then Doggy Style drops. 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:20.520 That's ninety four, right, it's ninety three, ninety three, Okay. 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.960 Then Doggie Style is such a big deal with sales 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.160 eight hundred and seventy thousand albums in the first week, 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:28.320 eight hundred ninety thousand in the second week. Right when 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:35.120 fifty came it did again, Right, that happens. It's so impactful. 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:38.240 It forces a change on the whole game. It turned 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:41.040 like people get mad when I say this, but Tupac 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:42.879 had to become more of a gangster rapper because of 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:44.840 this album. Yep, that's why you gonna get the thug 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:46.840 life because of dog Paan you go get some forty crips, 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:50.879 right you. Ice Cube has to become more of a songwriter. 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.119 He was already a g a decent songwriter, but he 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:57.280 was a fucking masterful P and MC. But then he 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.879 has to kind of structure style to make more records. 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.720 His dog is destroying, destroying everybody everything on the radio, 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:07.000 right boom, so like he shifts the game like he totally, 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:09.200 which is what the classic is. It shifts the game 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:13.440 right and you just boom. Then it's such an impactful album. 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:17.480 One song spawns a whole nother album. In ninety four, 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:21.320 Murder was the case. Yeah, that's so much the shit. 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.760 It selles triple platinum, right, So that's ninety two, the 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.480 chronic right, which is a Snoop album. Ninety three, which 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:31.080 is Doggystown, which is obviously Snoop's debut. Ninety four, which 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:33.160 is Murder was a case that's off a Snoop album 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:38.880 ninety five, his group comes out. Yeah, he's on seven 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:42.680 to eight of those records. Right, dog Food Dogs. 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:46.000 Album, Right, I think I think it's a classic album. 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:48.800 It's for sure a West Coast classic. I think it's 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:49.480 a classic album. 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:51.639 I wouldn't even I'm not gonna debate that, but we're. 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:53.280 Gonna get to some debates about that. We are, guess 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:53.520 we are. 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:57.159 But so we got shipped ninety two, ninety three, ninety four, 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:02.359 ninety five, Dre's leaving, So Dre leaves, So DJ Pooh 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:07.159 steps in and finishes attempts to finish dog Father in 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:11.880 ninety six. So what happened is we actually did get 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:16.720 to enjoy Snoop. We got Snoop carried death ro for sure, 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:19.320 but on his back, Yeah, you know what I mean. 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:21.439 And then POC came And that's why I always get 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:24.639 upset at that argument. Pop was jealous. Snoop was jealous 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:27.640 of Pop. Man, this nigga been carrying the world's greatest, 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:30.920 most impactful record label. Cash Money is probably hip hop's 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:33.520 greatest label. But yeah, he was carrying the most impactful 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:35.960 label at that time. You know what I mean of 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:38.800 all time as far as im impact. Yeah, right, because 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:41.879 this is the birth of gangster rap at the High Yeah. 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:43.479 And then the tree. I always say, pep back. If 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:45.159 you look at the Doctor Dre Tree, look at the 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:46.800 Snoop Tree, look at the Sugar Night Tree. 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:51.080 Everything that right, so right, So he carries him on 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:53.680 his back and then finally Snoop right, so Pop comes 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:57.399 home and then boom, Now you got another star. It's 0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:00.680 like the Warriors and Kevin Durant. You get a another star. 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:04.080 You get this guy from the Thunder n you know 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:05.920 what I mean, Like not like that, but it's like 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:09.679 Katie from the Thunder coming to the Warriors, right right, right, 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:11.800 Snoop Steph Curry had just read every day right, so 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:14.600 boom and then right, So then he comes over and 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:16.159 now you're like, oh, I ain't got to do all 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:19.439 the work. And then Pot comes and y'all give him 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:22.120 all the records, y'all help, y'all give him the best beat, y'all, 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:24.880 and he puts up he puts up them nigga out 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:26.399 there and finals MVP. 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:28.879 Easy works. 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:31.520 But Snoop Steph Curry, but yeah, right, and he's just 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:34.080 like do your thing, yeah, and then he still has 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:37.159 to put out another album in ninety six, So we 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:40.520 get albums from Snoop in ninety two, ninety three, ninety four, 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.399 ninety five, and Dogfather in ninety six. So when dre 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:48.639 is leaving Pock Dies Sins Francis Madness, still a Snoop 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:51.320 album is needed to you know, carry the manner because 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:54.439 you got mcavelly at this point. So those three records 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:58.240 all lies on me mcavelly and Dogfather. Doll Father produced 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:01.280 by DJ Pool does most of the heavy. They don't 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:03.399 really get a chance to finish it because we gotta 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:06.760 get this album out, pop past, gotta get zual. We 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:07.720 always got. 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:08.280 Enough of Snoop. 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:13.440 It's literally just it's like survivors, Like it's survivor's guilt, 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.040 Like he lives a survivor's lifestyle where he survived the 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:18.880 craziest ship and he's right here. So we don't really 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:20.280 appreciate him. 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:22.640 Yeah, I think we just I think when we think 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:27.919 of like Snoop albums, we think of he doesn't get 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:28.680 credit for the Chronic. 0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:30.760 But if you think about it, the song, the main 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:33.680 song from the Chronic that we celebrate who's on the 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:36.360 song Snoop. And that's how it's been the whole time. 0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:37.520 I don't disagree. 0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:39.680 Even a dog food what's the main song. 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:44.919 Snoops on it? Yeah, great, great video, cost a lot 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:47.200 of man just carrying all the weight. Man, So I 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:49.440 would say I would just say, like I just think 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:52.800 that like unfortunately, and and and this is kind of 0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:57.080 like a very convenient to look at things. It's like, damn, 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:02.120 the what if of like if they would have kept 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:06.720 somehow kept that nucleus together for like another two or 0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:08.280 three years, you know what I'm saying, Like. 0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:11.200 Something I'm gonna say, Man, it was born out of trauma, 0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:13.560 Like death Row was born out of trauma. It was 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:16.560 born out of a situation with Eazy E, you know 0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:19.840 what I mean. That probably wasn't a real enough situation 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:22.720 for it to for them to break up, but it 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:25.840 was born out of like like all street urban culture, 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:28.160 you know what I mean. So we got what we got. 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:30.040 We just got to be grateful we got that four 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:33.440 years of incredibleness and a lot more after that, because 0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:35.440 we did get the Dazz album. That was pretty cool, 0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:38.160 great album to da Man, also one of the greatest 0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:41.440 paper I'm mad we never got the corrupt produced Doctor 0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:44.840 dre album. True should mean the Doctor Dre produced corrupt. 0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:50.440 Then what's crazy about corrupt is like somehow like I 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:53.200 think streets is the mothers. Like, I mean one of 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:54.800 the most underrated. 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:56.480 Fred, fucking Fred, fucking Fred. 0:22:57.240 --> 0:23:01.000 Oh that fucking album is so hard upsince that like 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:04.760 the ship Fred does Crazy Fred is just nasty and 0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:06.400 he really don't get enough credit. 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:09.840 Butsonically I had to call him probably about five months. 0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:12.119 I was like, oh you, like really, I don't know 0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:15.200 why are you doing that? But even his sonics separate 0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:19.920 completely different. So I think Snoop is just disrespected because 0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:23.240 he's from the West. And two he survived, and I 0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:29.640 think his level of celebrity got to a place where 0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:33.840 most people stopped looking at him as a rapper and 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:36.080 almost started looking at him more as like a cultural 0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:38.320 figure in it and like just the entertainer, Which is 0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:40.320 why I say he's the greatest hip hop artist because 0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:43.160 when you understand hip hop and street urban culture, there's 0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:46.840 no greater representation of culture than Snoop Dogg. Yeah, like 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:49.280 Snoop is like this nigga's a crip that was crip 0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:49.680 walking on. 0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:51.680 He's that well. I mean he's done things that no 0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:53.160 artists like no rapper. 0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:57.360 Thirty not a hip hop artist, maybe like a Drake, 0:23:57.440 --> 0:23:59.840 somebody who's not of the coaches. 0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:00.680 No, no, he's not. 0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:03.280 We're not gonna do that. He's not of the street 0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:04.880 urban culture. You can't listen to music. 0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:06.640 So is Eminem not a hip hop artist? 0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:10.800 He's from Detroit, He's from the ghetto. Drake is a 0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:13.240 from a middle class Canadian neighbors. 0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:15.720 So if someone comes from a middle class family, no, 0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:19.800 so you have so you're telling me, in your eyes, 0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:20.439 you have to be. 0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:22.359 From a street, urban community. 0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:25.200 Yes, in order to be considered hip hop. 0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:28.000 Hip hop is the first genre of music. Forget me, 0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:30.159 because I know everybody's listened to pop that God, you 0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:33.520 can't kick me. It's not the point. I'm saying. Hip 0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:36.040 hop is street, urban artistic expression. 0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:42.480 So didn't well, I mean, we could probably really nitpick 0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:44.200 this this discussion, and then. 0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:49.560 I'm going, yeah, I'm going Drake's saying Drake. 0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:51.959 Is kind of pop. That's a different statement. But somebody 0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:55.800 in my high five okay, top five, I've had that, 0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.000 and I'm glad you said. Kanye West did not grow 0:24:58.119 --> 0:24:58.840 up in the hood. 0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:01.359 And I've been thinking this whole time. His mother was 0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:03.840 a teacher, and I've been thinking this whole time. I 0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:05.960 was like, is he really because I think as much 0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.040 as he's in my top five and I appreciate him. 0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:10.640 I think he is the problem. Do you think Diddy 0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:14.040 is hip hop puff Daddy? No, Puff is an executive, 0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:16.480 So you don't think Puff Daddy is hip hop? No. 0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:18.320 I think Puff put out hip hop X. 0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:21.640 But he's hip hop. I don't know if he's responsible 0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:27.160 for so much history in Jimmy Ivien. Yeah, but Diddy's 0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:32.200 didd He's produce records really, yeah, in the same way 0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:35.720 Quincy Jones has produced records. Yes, really, he puts the 0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:36.520 right people together. 0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:40.160 Forgive me forgiving me Diddy Cuff Puff my bad. Look, 0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:43.760 I don't know, but Kanye has been my greatest dilemma. 0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:45.600 But if you think about it right, this is gonna 0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:48.119 sound crazy. So Kanye is in my top five because 0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:50.320 I love you know, I think the world of Kanye. Yeah, 0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:53.320 there were times I've expressed it. Charlotte Mane. I think 0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:56.320 Kanye is a prophet for living, So I think this 0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:58.320 much of him. But if you think about it, his 0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:01.960 first single, he got into a car crash, great record, 0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:05.040 like all American car crash with insurance. 0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:06.159 Yeah, but what's wrong with that? 0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:09.160 That's nothing. It's like Madonna could have made that song. 0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:10.000 It's not true. 0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:12.359 Yes, it's a middle class song about a man getting 0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:13.680 to a crash and then when it's surance. 0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:15.840 So you're saying they can't be middle class raps. 0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:21.800 Yes, Drake is a fantastic rapper. Fantastic NonStop is my shit, 0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:26.320 but that don't mean they are hip hop, street urban culture. Now, 0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:28.040 a lot of people disagree with me. Some people are like, A, well, 0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.280 long as you practice what them niggas do, then you're 0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.080 one of those niggas. But you know I feel about that. 0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:34.320 But my point is what Kanye right. 0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:37.480 Wouldn't kick out like half a hip hop fast that 0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:39.600 you'd say you aren't hip hop fast? 0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:42.080 Because I tell you why, because look what happened to 0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:46.720 rock and roll. It ain't a nigga insight. Look what 0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:51.200 happened to jazz Because soon as you start letting everybody 0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:53.680 in the door, guess who getting kicked out first. 0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:55.920 I don't think that's ever gonna happen. 0:26:56.240 --> 0:27:00.159 Guaranteed they've tried that, it's happened. It's it's only been 0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:02.520 fifty years. They've been putting out records for forty it's 0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:03.640 guaranteed to happen. 0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:08.480 I'm not sure there's Uh. You know what's funny is 0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:11.240 I've always thought to myself like, who's the white, you know, 0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:13.480 like who's the white that's like the white of whites 0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:15.679 and hip hop that like can actually make this thing 0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:19.639 work like and like sustainable. Long time, let's get rid 0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:22.200 of Eminem because Eminem is an alien. Yeah, he's like 0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:23.240 an anomaly. 0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:25.359 In thirty forty years ago, Emine would have been a 0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:25.880 punk rock. 0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:27.840 It's Eminem by the way, right, if you were to 0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:28.560 say it's eminent. 0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:31.960 But we had this conversation hip hop and punk rock 0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:39.520 are brothers, step brother, right right, same father, oppression and poverty, 0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:41.680 different mothers, the area, the earth. 0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:46.159 So you so because because this is there's a lot 0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:49.520 of artists who have families that went to college, that 0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:51.639 had middle class jobs, lob people from together and that 0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:54.520 went to college. No had middle class, middle class areas 0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:58.199 Little YACHTI yeah, but would you really you look at 0:27:58.200 --> 0:27:59.960 Little Yady and be like, oh, that's a hip hop guy. 0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:02.680 Yeah? No, you just only feel like that because he raps. 0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:05.160 I think I think he's hip hop for sure. 0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:07.920 But I'm saying because he raps, and I also. 0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:11.000 Think he's also contributed a lot to culture. He's he 0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:13.000 wrote City Girls Act Up. He kind of kicked off 0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:13.560 low Key this. 0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:16.000 Whole, so did Jimmy Iving. So it's a lot of 0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:17.240 other people, but not in. 0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:21.200 The same way Jimmy What song did Jimmy Ivan write? 0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:24.520 But don't that's not again, you're you're there's people outside 0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:26.320 of the culture who have wrote cultured song. 0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:30.760 Okay, let me ask you a question. You're so because 0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:33.880 because I feel that there has been. 0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:35.720 And I'm not saying I know of Lil Yachtie's hipp 0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:38.880 I don't know little there has been an uptick in 0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:43.120 completely and what it's a complete takeover of middle class 0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:46.360 people ever since the blog ever happened. Yess soon as 0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:50.280 college kids started dictating what was cool within street urban culture, 0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:52.880 you've seen the change because it became the guys that 0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:53.600 they could deal with. 0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:57.200 Yeah, but to me, that's still hip hop. That's not 0:28:57.600 --> 0:28:58.400 that's his music. 0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:01.960 Hip Hop is the culture. Like if you don't talk 0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:04.080 to the culture, if you don't talk like us. 0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:06.320 And there's the five elements of hip hop. 0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.640 No, no, no, those are expressions how you express the culture. 0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:13.000 So I just think that like if you look at 0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:14.320 a guy, I'm trying to think of a guy, you 0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:15.760 said the bloggers. I'm just trying to think. 0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:18.240 Kanye is the greatest conversation and as one of my 0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:19.920 favorite guys and as one of your favorite guys. 0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:21.960 Yeah, and Kanye is probably the most influential artists of 0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:23.760 the last I don't. 0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:28.560 Know thirty years, who did the influence people. Travis Scott 0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:30.440 is hip hop middle class people. I don't even think 0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:33.080 Travis Scott considers himself hip hop. That's not true, I don't. 0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:34.960 I don't think. Did you listen to the drums on 0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:36.400 the new album again? 0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.960 Drums are not exclusive to hip hop. I just you know, 0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:41.880 they've been having hard drums and house and a lot 0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:44.959 of other stuff that hip hop birth. Okay, so outside 0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:47.400 of But I'm not saying again, I haven't studied all 0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:50.440 of those guys to say their shit specifically. I've been 0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:52.320 saying this about Kanye, and I think that's why. 0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:58.080 I mean, Kanye did influence a sound that kind of 0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:00.920 I mean him and just blaze his fingerprints all over 0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:01.560 the blueprint. 0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:06.680 It's really Blink though. It's who bink Well Bank started it. 0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:08.200 Everybody start following Bank. 0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:10.200 Okay, So if you listen to the Blueprint, right, and 0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:13.080 then after the Blueprint everyone started sampling. But it's all 0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:13.880 based off Bink. 0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:19.400 Okay, this is it's important to notice truth, and they'll 0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:20.280 all I think that's. 0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:22.360 An opinion, though, No, this is a fact. I don't 0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:24.360 think you can say that, Like just Blaze and Kanye 0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:25.960 weren't chopping up samples before Bank. 0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:27.680 They wasn't doing it the way they were doing it 0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:31.120 on a Blueprint before Bank. That style, that's that sound 0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:32.440 that was birthed out of that is Bink. 0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:38.120 Well, the credit goes to Bank. I'm saying the general 0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:42.160 public would credit the Blueprint as the album that kicked 0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:46.480 off a sonic wave of like people sampling. Sure, like 0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:49.800 I pitch samples again again. 0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:51.680 I'm with you, I'm all in. I'm just saying there's 0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:53.640 a fact and then there's an ignorance. 0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:55.920 Okay, So are you telling me Kanye is not hip hop? 0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:58.840 I'm telling you that's that's been my dilemma, right because 0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:00.959 because he is hip hop. Well, this is the problem, right, 0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:04.360 Kanye West, But that doesn't mean anything. That don't mean 0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:07.160 First off, nobody in fucking hip hop put Marilyn Monroe 0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:08.480 up on a fucking wall as a kid. 0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:13.120 I don't understand the correlations Monroe. 0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.440 Because he talked about putting up a poster because of 0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:17.080 Marilyn Monroe on his wall. 0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:17.760 What's wrong with that? 0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:19.800 Why the fuck would a nigga from where we're from 0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:21.840 put up Marilyn Moroe on they walk because they think 0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:24.440 she's hot. No, none of us think she's hot. That 0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:26.720 you're speaking for a lot of people from the ghetto. 0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:28.800 I speak for all of us. I'm sure a lot 0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:30.360 of people in the ghetto would clap her name. 0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:32.880 None of us. Yes, we would anybody's, but we wouldn't 0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:35.520 think she's hot. It's too many hot fucking sisters from 0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:39.240 that time, he compares Kim Kardashian to her, like. 0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:41.880 Yeah, but Kim kay is is littly. You don't You 0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:44.160 don't know she's not. You think Kim Ky's level? 0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:46.280 No, she was okay, she was a regular. 0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:47.200 You think she was okay? 0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:49.080 Yeah, she was a regular. They used to have them 0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:50.640 at Glendale by the Barrel. 0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:54.360 There was Kim by the barrel. 0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:57.480 That's that's the normal fine girl in Glendale. That's the 0:31:57.640 --> 0:31:58.760 normal fine girl in Glendale. 0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:01.680 When you go to the scenes, I mean Glendale a lot. Yeah, 0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:05.160 I live in they just don't have a plastic Well, 0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:08.040 I just don't see I've seen. I don't see by 0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:08.480 the barrel. 0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:09.400 I seen him by the. 0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:10.880 Shouts of the beautiful Armenian women. 0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:15.040 Who are They're great, They're fun, and yes they are 0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:18.240 they Kim Kardashian, Fine, all original Kim Kardashian. 0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:20.400 I'm not this verse. I don't know what's going on. 0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:22.400 I'm not saying that there aren't some Kim Kardashian, find 0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:24.800 a lot of them. I'm just saying that I think 0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:26.480 that you're you're overstating your part. 0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.480 No, No, I'm telling you the true. Listen, if you 0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:32.560 think about it right, listen to every other thing you 0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:36.640 loved about hip hop growing up right, the struggle, the ideas, 0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:37.640 even how they party. 0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:40.320 And I liked, Hey, you know what I liked? First 0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:42.240 of all, I loved all your Style, sure, and the 0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:45.560 other album that really I like the kind of like 0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:52.160 the horror, demonic mystique of bone Thugs and harmony. Theluigi 0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:59.600 was the melody. And you know what else? 0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:02.680 I like what they had the best harmony since Beast Boys, 0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.480 probably fantastic harmony. 0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:08.640 I mean, I can tell you like from Creeping on 0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:11.400 a Come Up to East nineteen ninety nine art of 0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:16.880 war Man God Bone again somehow criminally underrated super Uh. 0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:20.720 I also really enjoyed Brother Lynch Hung and It's just Dope. 0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:23.000 I got that nigga for about fo ESEs. I had 0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:26.680 to get dirty on Brother Lynch. I always give props 0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:29.240 to his album Season of the Sickness. It was a 0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:32.440 very dark album where he talked about eating. 0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:35.560 I like Lynch, Yeah, Lynce is and that. But the 0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:37.880 point I'm saying back to Yate his Brother Lynch hip hop, 0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:42.800 I would imagine, so he's from like a really fucked 0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:43.800 up get on sack. 0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:47.080 But him talking about eating children. But I think he 0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:51.440 also could not be the something that a normal dude 0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:52.520 from the hood would talk about. 0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:56.160 It's not coo. I mean, he's like, he's like nigir 0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:56.880 Alan poet. 0:33:57.000 --> 0:34:00.800 Also also Bone Thugs in Harmony talking about playing around 0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:04.480 with a Wuiji board and talking to That's not that 0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:08.080 far fetched. But that's not you. You used the Maryland 0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:09.879 min Roe post on Wall. 0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:12.479 I'm saying, let's start with Kanye growing up in middle 0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:15.280 class area and he did Chicago, Okay, so that's different 0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:16.040 than Bone. 0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:18.920 And boning Cleveland, brother Lynch and sat them. 0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:22.480 People are from places with houses with thirteen dollars for sure, right, 0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:23.520 So that's different. 0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:26.080 Houses might have been thirteen dollars in Chicago, the houses is. 0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:27.680 Thirteen dollars in Cleveland, right, And you can get hours 0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:30.160 in Cleveland right now for about seven thousand. Let me 0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:32.759 know what flex I got you? Your bone grew up 0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:35.800 at Yeah, shout out to the cavaliers. So so what 0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:38.360 my point I'm saying to you is, I'm not I 0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:40.960 haven't came to a great conclusion. It's Kanye West, so 0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:43.640 it's hard to challenge that type of legacy. But if 0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:46.000 you think about it, But if you think about it, right, 0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:48.759 his first song is about a car crash where he 0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:53.439 had insurance. But what got everybody is the fucking black 0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:57.640 music he sampled in Sha Ka Khan that carries the story. 0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.960 Kanye is the best at using black mut and finding 0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:04.040 a place where he meets black people at Remember, hip 0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:08.080 hop is almost like Kanye makes He's a black artist, yes, 0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:10.800 but but when you say black, right, it's as simple 0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:12.440 as he's a black man making music. 0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:13.160 Right. 0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:17.120 But he's not the first artist to sample black artists, no, no, 0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:20.759 But he's he's fantastic at it. Yeah, when I tell 0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:22.759 you what he does with that sha Ka Khan. And 0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:24.960 but if you listen to a lot of his songs, 0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:29.960 even the depth of his struggle is very Eddie Winslow. 0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:31.560 But you know what it was. What was dope about 0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:34.160 Kanye is that his struggle was relatable to. 0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:37.320 White people, to a lot of people, to mainstream America. 0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:39.399 Because if you could talk about how you hated working 0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:40.840 at the mall, at the Gap. 0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:46.279 That's like main No okay, but but but imagine if 0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:48.320 Snoop's first album is about him talking about having a 0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:48.879 problem working. 0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:52.759 But that's what made Kanye different was he was a 0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:54.279 fucking pop artist. 0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:56.520 You could relate to him, oh versus you couldn't relate 0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:57.440 to none of these. 0:35:57.280 --> 0:36:00.399 Not a pop artist. He was making some backpack dope ship, 0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:02.520 but he was talking about backpack to work at them. 0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:07.920 Because this is the minority of the of everybody aren't 0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:10.920 in gangs and aren't involved in street life and not. 0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:13.160 But whether or not they grew up around it, would 0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:18.040 you would you at least say that most people, period, 0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.279 no matter what the race of them or the or 0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:24.080 where they're from, are not tied up in street life 0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:26.479 are civilians? Is that fair? 0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:29.080 Most they're not from the ghetto. 0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.960 Okay, people from the ghetto have normal jobs at the mall. 0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:33.880 No, they don't have them at the mall, but they 0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:34.719 do have normal jobs. 0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:36.560 Are you trying to tell me people from the ghetto 0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:37.439 don't work at the mall? 0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:39.400 Yes, but that's not that's a wild thing to say that. 0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:42.759 It's a very wild blanket state. You're pushing it further, right, 0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:46.400 Is what I'm saying is of us? Were Kanye made 0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:51.360 and made music for the normal person? That's what pop music? 0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:55.160 No is no pop music. Listen, this is what you 0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:57.600 gotta understand. Is that not what pop music is? 0:36:57.680 --> 0:37:00.640 Because for their every day they first know. 0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:03.399 But you're trying to You're you're essentially trying to say, well, 0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:09.400 Kanye was making music for uh, privileged people who had 0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:10.400 normal jobs. I did not. 0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:13.560 First off, yes, it's not you're not privileged. You have 0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:15.680 a normal job that makes you mainstream American. 0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:18.239 But even people let's say, from where you're from, right, 0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:21.200 but even now you're talking about I'm asking you that. 0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:23.920 So people from where you're from, right, You're let's say 0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:28.720 your a neighborhood, what percentage of them are actively throughout 0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:35.000 their life practicing involvement in let's say, street culture, illegal activity, gangs. 0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:36.840 We all talk the same way, so that I'm not 0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:39.839 talking about talk I'm talking about I'm talking about how 0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:42.160 you get your money, the lifestyle you live. You can't 0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:44.000 pick the part of a culture you enjoy, right because 0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:45.520 day I saw this culture. 0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:47.600 Right, But it don't mean that. It don't mean somebody. 0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:50.640 There's probably people from your areas. But we had to 0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:52.160 get up and go to work and do their normal 0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:54.759 job at homies that got jobs that were Kanye's shit, 0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:57.880 and was like, Yo, this dude's talking about working a 0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:00.640 fucking overtime shift at a rech tail store. 0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:05.440 This is fucking pop music. No, it's not. That's normal 0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:09.279 middle class shit. That's what pop America is. So you're 0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:10.920 trying to say Kanye wasn't making hip hop. 0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:12.399 That's not what I'm saying. 0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:12.680 I have. 0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:14.759 I told you, I've been having this dilemma in my 0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:15.680 mind to say so. 0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:18.600 So you make a lot of blanket statements. No, I'm 0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:22.840 giving you really consistent statements. Considering all of your statements. 0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:24.799 According to your logic, Kanye is not hip hop. 0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:25.480 I'm thinking about it. 0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:25.799 I've been. 0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:27.239 I've been on this play because I've been saying for 0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:28.880 years he's hip hop. But then I think about it, 0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:32.319 I'm like, that's why Black America's disconnected from him right now. 0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:35.399 I think they also might be disconnected because he said 0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:36.000 some wild shit. 0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:38.759 No he did. He said the same shit first day, 0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:44.400 and he has been wrapped up in a very unrelatable culture, 0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:49.040 whether it's the Kardashians, whether it's you know, why huh, 0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:51.680 because he ain't that type of guy. 0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:54.279 But he wasn't that type of No, he wasn't. He 0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:57.080 was just doing it over Shaka Khan and the other thing. Well, 0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:02.960 that's what I'm starting to believe. It's like he always 0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:06.680 been this crazy nigga. Kanye is like sold you think 0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:07.799 Playboy Cardi's hip hop? 0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:11.960 No, but he got some dope shit the first But 0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:14.200 all that weird devil shit, I just slap a little cuz, 0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:16.000 Like all that whole as ship they doing with the Devil, 0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:17.160 that'll be your cuzby. 0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:17.719 I don't like that. 0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:21.360 Yeah, I hate that you love little stough No no, no, 0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:23.759 nas is cool because he just fake gay. I told 0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:26.000 you you're gonna see one day it's gonna come out, 0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:32.440 Cuz fake gay, mean he's playing for the money. No, No, 0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:36.200 I don't believe cousins gay. I believe they paying Couzin. 0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:39.200 He know his playing, he running his plate. Why would 0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:41.000 you not. It's niggas who do it. A gangster rap 0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:42.920 is niggas who do it like they fake d boys. 0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:46.720 Why would you not be fake gay for money, especially 0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:47.160 if you're young. 0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:50.120 There were people been fake money then it has been 0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:55.439 people fake gay for money, fake gay. Yeah, you act 0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:58.759 gay for people like a fake gangster rapper, like a 0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:00.880 nigga who act like he a gang but he's not. 0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:03.920 I think there's probably more fake straight people than fake 0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:04.439 gay people. 0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:07.920 I would agree, Yeah, I would agree for sure degree, 0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:10.120 But that don't mean Little non X is not straight. 0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:14.440 I think Little is Uh is gay. I don't believe that. 0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:17.560 And I think it's it's gay facing you think he's gay. 0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:19.080 I know we talked about this last time, but I 0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:21.040 just don't know if that's a that's I don't know 0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:23.359 if that's the that's that's what, that's what my way. 0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.160 If he really wanted to like lean into something, he 0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:27.520 would have just been the country artist. 0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:30.439 Couldn't you know that's not gonna work? No, white folks 0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:31.520 ain't fucking with that, and they grow. 0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.000 They did win old town roads, they didn't. 0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:42.359 I don't know, money man, where's he from's money man? 0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:43.839 Money man? 0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:46.799 I don't, I haven't, I haven't so listened. So first off, 0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.160 I can't talk about Travis Scott. 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Maybe Yadi would be. 0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:23.880 The closest person that could consider himself hip hop or 0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:27.200 would well. His dad was a big photographer. He did 0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:31.120 photos for Dead Press tight, but he didn't grow up 0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:33.480 like like from what I understand, he grew up like 0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:35.359 with you know, like a middle class kid. 0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:37.000 Yeah, And I'm not saying I don't. I don't know 0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:39.160 if I had to really study if I say that Trav, 0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:41.320 I think he defines his music as something else, and 0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:43.839 I think Uzi defines his music and his existence at 0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:47.000 something else. But I think because they use rap, immediately 0:45:47.400 --> 0:45:51.320 everybody classify somebody black and rapping as hip hop, and 0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:56.240 it's fucking fucked up. If Uzi, as black people created 0:45:56.320 --> 0:45:58.320 rock and roll, right, he can go in and define 0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:00.680 it as he wants. That's his claim to write. You 0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:03.080 can't look at Nirvana or No. U two and then 0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:05.120 say he gotta make music like that. We did it 0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:07.319 the first time, so we could redefine it the second time. 0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:09.759 It's fair of him to do that. But what I'm 0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:13.520 saying is back to the point we're saying in my neighborhood, 0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:17.239 being in street urban life is not necessarily, you know, 0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:20.160 being a criminal. Like there's a lot of people like 0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:22.320 LLL wasn't a criminal. There's people who grew up in 0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:23.040 the same culture. 0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:24.719 But what I'm saying, though, is that there are people 0:46:24.800 --> 0:46:30.319 who aren't criminals who maybe they're they're gravitating. They gravitated 0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:34.080 towards college dropout because oh this is something different, this 0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:35.840 is this is I liked it. 0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:37.680 As a criminal, But that's not the point. I like 0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:39.319 Michael J. I like, I like a pop artist. 0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:41.799 But I'm still like if I like to me as 0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:45.480 somebody who was worried the best Buy when I was sixteen, 0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:48.320 I was like, oh shit, I get it. This motherfucker's 0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:52.040 rapping about that a shitty retail. Don't you do get it? 0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:54.080 That's my point I'm saying. So what I'm saying is, 0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:54.800 but I grew. 0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:55.920 Up, I grew up middle class. 0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:58.200 That's not what I know. You this because Phoenix got 0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:00.840 some fucking crazy sick as poor places. 0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:01.480 Yeah they do. 0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:05.399 Yeah, sick that nobody talks about. Sick some crazy shit. 0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:07.439 Shout out to Phoenix because they go through some shit. 0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:10.120 Nobody talks about it. But the point I'm saying to 0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:15.480 you is, when we're saying this, it's like everybody that 0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:18.640 grew up with us talk the same way. Everybody who 0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:21.400 grows up with us eats the same way. Every everybody 0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:21.920 grows up. 0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:23.160 But that's not universal. 0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:26.120 That's where you're at, right, But that's all street urban culture. 0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:29.080 That's the way that people different people in Gary Indiana 0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:31.840 are different every ghetto. People in Cleveland are different every ghetto. 0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:34.960 There is no middle class culture, that's only tradition. In 0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:38.160 middle class and in wealth, there is no culture. So therefore, 0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:40.520 how could you have hip hop somewhere where there's no culture? 0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:42.920 So if Drake, let's say Drake for example, shout out 0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:45.000 to DRIs. Do you think the Beastie Boys are hip hop? No? 0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:46.800 They punk rock that made a hip hop album. 0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:48.839 Okay? Do you think license to illes hip hop? 0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:50.320 Yes, they made a hip hop album. 0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:52.799 Okay, so that's hip hop. I agree, because but they 0:47:52.960 --> 0:47:55.719 actually pump. They started as punk rockers, punk rock and 0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:56.520 hip hop? Right? 0:47:56.960 --> 0:47:58.480 Are step brothers? 0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:04.759 Okay? Run DMC? What their hip hop? Listen? Correct? There? 0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:07.080 Of course? Do you do you do you think that 0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:12.919 Run DMC like obviously Run DMC is kind of looked 0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:14.920 at as like the first like I would would you say, 0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:18.319 like pop hip hop group in terms of like their popularity, 0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:20.480 in terms of popularity we use the work? 0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:22.120 Yeah, yeah, I guess to some degree. 0:48:24.080 --> 0:48:26.160 Would you discount them working with Aerosmith? 0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:28.239 No, I don't think. I think you could work with 0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:30.040 whoever you want to. But I think hip hop is 0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:32.920 more as much as street. Urban culture is defined through 0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:36.200 crime and Disney populated crime or in neighborhoods. It don't 0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:37.480 mean everyone's a criminal. 0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:42.080 I didn't say it. I didn't say not everyone's a criminal. So, 0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:45.239 but I feel like you were pretty much saying, now 0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:47.719 where we're from, this is what we we didn't We 0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:50.080 don't fuck with regular mall jobs. 0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:52.800 No, that we're denied mall jobs. 0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:58.359 That's not true. Yes, yes, I've been in the worst areas. Yes, 0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:00.680 I got some of the more type of friends. 0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:07.360 I'm not saying that. I'm saying the poverty and the oppression. 0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:10.480 Here's here's here's a here's a richer conversation. But let 0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:13.080 me get that point of I'm saying where all the 0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:16.560 culture is created through the crime, the crime happening to everybody, 0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:19.000 whether you're involved or not. You know what the crime 0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:21.880 that is to education programs, to where the education programs 0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:23.839 are trash. And you don't speak great English, So y'all 0:49:23.880 --> 0:49:26.000 make up slang, and y'all all talk the same way. 0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:28.279 It don't matter if Cus got a job at the 0:49:28.320 --> 0:49:30.279 mall in the hood or if he's selling dope. We 0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:32.880 all talk the same. We all got the same lingo. 0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:35.520 We all do the same thing. This is the this 0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:37.120 is what I liken it too. And it's gonna be 0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:39.760 crazy because you know, you're a white man in this conversation. 0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:41.400 Is funny. You're a nigga, but you're a white man. 0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:44.279 The point I'm saying to you is, there's always been 0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:46.800 three black coaches in America, right, or three the ideas 0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:50.040 of three identities. There's a slave, you know, American slave culture, right, 0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:51.719 that's where you get sold food, That's where you get 0:49:51.719 --> 0:49:54.399 all that. There's a freedman. Since the first day black 0:49:54.400 --> 0:49:57.000 people have been on this planet, especially in this country, 0:49:57.080 --> 0:49:59.920 there's been free black people, and then there's been slave masters. 0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:02.040 The smaller culture of black people and it's not a culture, 0:50:02.040 --> 0:50:04.920 it's the tradition of life. That's really small minute of 0:50:05.040 --> 0:50:10.320 black slavers, right, that's their small freemen slaves. Kanye is 0:50:10.360 --> 0:50:13.080 a freeman. His whole conversation is freeman. He has no 0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:16.280 idea what niggas from where we from are talking about. 0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:19.000 That's why you'll say something like slavery is a choice. 0:50:19.760 --> 0:50:21.879 Kanye reminds me of a kid that got to visit 0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:23.839 his cousins on the plantation. It was like, we need 0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:25.440 to leave here, once this weekend when I go on 0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:28.279 y'all go with me. That's how he talks because his mind, 0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:30.640 and that's what middle class does to you. It creates 0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:33.400 a place to where the world is limitless. 0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:36.239 The world is not like your world is not real 0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:39.399 to them, it's the upside down, right, Okay, that's fair. 0:50:39.560 --> 0:50:40.640 That's what hip hop is. 0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:43.640 But again, because people want a piece of it, and 0:50:43.719 --> 0:50:46.239 it's like it's something seems so cool. They want a 0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:48.160 piece of the lingo. They want a piece of to 0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:50.279 get in, but they don't want a piece of the consequence. 0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:53.880 That's why I'm really careful with who I say and 0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:57.399 who I believe represents me as a ghetto person from 0:50:57.680 --> 0:51:00.520 hip hop. Now, if I started allowing somebody like Drake, 0:51:00.719 --> 0:51:03.600 forgive me Drake again, shout out to the homies. It's 0:51:03.640 --> 0:51:06.839 no disrespect. But if you don't speak not one thing 0:51:06.960 --> 0:51:09.000 on what's going on with black people in this country, 0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:10.600 not one stands, not one. 0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:12.720 That's been my biggest critique. 0:51:13.080 --> 0:51:14.279 I don't even care because he's. 0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:17.319 Canadian, right, but I just feel like he doesn't ever 0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:19.520 have an opinion on anything. 0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:24.360 But except now he's wearing rainbow clips, So you're endorsing movements, 0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:27.279 but you're not endorsing the people that put you in 0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:29.399 position to be where you at now. 0:51:30.160 --> 0:51:32.200 Yeah, I do think it's like interesting that. 0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:34.400 Like why you don't have Shae for nobody? Why Yo 0:51:34.520 --> 0:51:37.560 Shade is for Joe Budden? He not, first off, a 0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:42.440 rich Jewish man bragging about being rich to some nigga 0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:45.680 that come from the ghetto like Joe Budden's, that shit 0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:47.840 is like cringey, Whereas like. 0:51:48.000 --> 0:51:49.560 Well, I just think I mean, I said this on 0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:53.040 Twitter the other day, I said, I don't think Joe 0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:55.799 Budden said anything that was unfair, disrespectful, And. 0:51:55.880 --> 0:51:59.560 I'm not mad and I'm not mad at Drake being 0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:02.239 offended at his critique of I'm a. 0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:03.879 Little I'm a little mad at that because I feel 0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:06.920 like Drake Bro, you have to understand like people are 0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:08.680 going to have an opinion about your music, and in 0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:10.799 as long as they're not crossing the line or they're 0:52:10.800 --> 0:52:12.120 not saying anything, he should be able to have. 0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:15.080 An opinion about them. But my thing is, why does 0:52:15.160 --> 0:52:17.600 it go right to what you have or money? Like 0:52:17.719 --> 0:52:22.600 you're like Drake is actually a talent, talented, accomplished MC 0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:24.600 record making fucking monster. 0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:27.680 Yeah, why go to money? I have a private jet 0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:30.400 and you have to take first class flights. 0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:33.000 Because you're a rich Jewish man. It's like being a 0:52:33.120 --> 0:52:37.200 broke black person. Like that's how common to the main 0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:39.920 ears that sounds. It's like you're gonna talk about it, 0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:40.719 nigga being broke. 0:52:40.800 --> 0:52:43.120 It wasn't Yeah, it wasn't necessary for sure. 0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:45.560 So I'm not mad at him. But he could have 0:52:45.640 --> 0:52:48.560 talked about so many things, you know what I mean? 0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:51.080 And that's what hip hop is. It's bearing the burden 0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:55.759 of street urban culture. You have to represent see when 0:52:55.760 --> 0:52:58.000 you don't have when you don't have to represent nobody. 0:52:58.120 --> 0:53:00.360 Jay could have never went out like that because he 0:53:00.560 --> 0:53:02.919 represented Marris in Brooklyn. He had to. That's the only 0:53:02.960 --> 0:53:06.440 way he could garner support. Snoop could never. You know 0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:08.719 another reason why Snoop is such a fantastic hit boy 0:53:08.760 --> 0:53:11.800 BARTI is he will never break cripping. He defines cripping 0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:14.520 how he wants. That's what cripping is all about. You 0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:16.600 know what I'm saying. You don't break them that one 0:53:16.680 --> 0:53:18.759 rule about no snitch. You could do with cripping as 0:53:18.800 --> 0:53:22.080 you please, just don't make nobody look dumb. And Snoop 0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:24.560 has done a great job of not making people look stupid, 0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:27.680 and he never broke away. When you don't have to 0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:31.240 bear the burden of culture, when you don't gotta represent, 0:53:31.400 --> 0:53:34.680 hip hop is all about representing the people we talking 0:53:34.680 --> 0:53:38.600 about due they fucking represent do people from their community? 0:53:38.680 --> 0:53:41.480 Feels like this is our spokesman. Like when I talk 0:53:41.920 --> 0:53:44.879 rest assure any real nigga for watch most niggas watch 0:53:44.960 --> 0:53:47.400 him like that. Nigga is all right. Niggas from La 0:53:47.480 --> 0:53:49.680 gonna be like glasses is all right because I have to. 0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:52.239 I can't do no sucking shit. How a'macha show my 0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:54.160 face in the sixties, how much show my face in 0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:56.360 the trades, how mama show my faces in the great streets? 0:53:56.400 --> 0:53:58.640 How much show my face in these coastes? If I 0:53:58.719 --> 0:54:03.160 go looking dumb, I have the burden of representing ghettos. 0:54:03.560 --> 0:54:06.919 That's what hip hop is. LLLL had the responsibility. LLLL 0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:09.800 and NAS had to represent Queens. Fifty had to represent 0:54:09.920 --> 0:54:13.080 South Side Queens. Jay had to represent Brooklyn. If you 0:54:13.160 --> 0:54:16.160 don't got to represent shit and you can still be successful, nigga, 0:54:16.200 --> 0:54:18.200 you are not one of us. If you can embarrass 0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:19.160 us every week. 0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:24.000 You don't think that Drake represents Toronto no, not the streets. 0:54:24.680 --> 0:54:29.360 I mean he represents Toronto as the Raptors represent Toronto, 0:54:29.880 --> 0:54:31.080 and he's their god. 0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:34.680 I think Drake. My problem is Drake represent black people 0:54:35.320 --> 0:54:37.120 and we be looking like, kus, what are you doing? 0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:40.319 You know what? I mean, like what the fuck? 0:54:40.480 --> 0:54:42.279 Because why would you do that? But the problem is 0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:44.520 when we try to hold him with our ghetto response. 0:54:44.640 --> 0:54:47.120 He's not a ghetto kid. He don't come from the ghetto. 0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:51.560 He don't. If you gotta think, morale and streetlight create standards, 0:54:51.920 --> 0:54:56.600 create morals. I mean the religion, excuse me, and street 0:54:56.640 --> 0:55:00.360 life create morals. Without it, America is just like a 0:55:00.440 --> 0:55:02.880 dog eat dog plays right, they fucked up? 0:55:04.360 --> 0:55:06.920 Yeah. I think we can at times be unfair towards 0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:13.360 Drake because he is such a just massive, shining star 0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:17.839 in hip hop. I think that at times Drake does 0:55:17.920 --> 0:55:20.120 things where I'm like, okay, you're like being a little 0:55:20.160 --> 0:55:22.560 too emotional towards Joe Budden, Like to discount him as 0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:24.200 like a failed rapper is unfair. 0:55:24.719 --> 0:55:26.600 I don't. I don't. I don't really care about that. 0:55:27.000 --> 0:55:28.880 I do think, though, I do not care about some 0:55:28.960 --> 0:55:29.800 fucking hair clips. 0:55:30.400 --> 0:55:32.120 See don't, I don't care. 0:55:32.239 --> 0:55:33.160 Yeah, if you go in the door. 0:55:33.560 --> 0:55:35.960 You like the hair clips? Because why you Snoop Dog 0:55:36.080 --> 0:55:38.040 had had had a lot of shit going on with 0:55:38.120 --> 0:55:39.319 his hair and shut the sugar freez. 0:55:39.400 --> 0:55:41.920 Yeah, but they ain't putting rainbow hair clips. That's a purpose. 0:55:42.360 --> 0:55:44.680 He's doing a lot of things on purpose to do 0:55:44.880 --> 0:55:46.919 certain things. And I'm asking you why you ain't stand 0:55:46.960 --> 0:55:48.400 up for no niggas. If you're gonna stand up for 0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:50.000 somebody who you're gonna represent you. 0:55:50.320 --> 0:55:53.320 Who's he representing? You think he's representing that you know 0:55:54.200 --> 0:55:55.520 you know he is, and that's his thought? 0:55:56.080 --> 0:55:57.960 Then why would you put rainbow hair clips in your head? 0:55:58.360 --> 0:56:00.400 Why does rainbow gotta be exclusive something that? 0:56:01.239 --> 0:56:01.919 It ain't a god? 0:56:03.040 --> 0:56:05.320 It's just what if he bought a pack of hairclips 0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:07.759 and they came in multiple colors? Why does everything have 0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:10.759 to have a specific meaning or agenda attached to it? 0:56:11.080 --> 0:56:13.840 Drake's hair clips don't mean anything except for their hair clips. 0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:17.439 You really believe that? Do you think Drake purposely said, nah, 0:56:18.640 --> 0:56:21.640 give me the rainbow pack? Yes? No, he's that crazy. 0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:24.360 You don't believe Drake is like one of the greatest 0:56:24.480 --> 0:56:27.719 minds like Kanye And let me tell you something. 0:56:27.760 --> 0:56:29.719 Not see the problem is this, let me just say this. 0:56:30.280 --> 0:56:36.360 The problem is certain, like in twenty twenty three, for 0:56:36.520 --> 0:56:39.880 whatever reason, we always have to put a meaning or 0:56:40.000 --> 0:56:42.520 stick some sort of agenda to something that it don't 0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:43.080 got nothing to do. 0:56:43.120 --> 0:56:45.120 With because we all know it means something. 0:56:45.200 --> 0:56:46.919 It doesn't. It does. It's just hair clips. 0:56:46.960 --> 0:56:47.680 No, it doesn't, it's not. 0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:48.560 Are you serious? 0:56:48.800 --> 0:56:51.120 If I were you, do you think Drake's hair clips 0:56:51.200 --> 0:56:53.240 are him endorsing a certain lifestyle? 0:56:53.360 --> 0:56:54.719 Yes? Really? Yes? 0:56:55.360 --> 0:56:57.719 When it is the mainstream thing to do, what does 0:56:57.800 --> 0:57:00.440 that mean that's the thing to do out of mainstream 0:57:00.520 --> 0:57:04.160 level across the world. That's what every pop artist would 0:57:04.160 --> 0:57:07.480 be doing across the world that people not. This is 0:57:07.520 --> 0:57:09.920 not by accident, you think this shit about this nigga 0:57:10.040 --> 0:57:11.320 is brilliant like Drake is. 0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:13.680 So what is Drake's agenda with his colorful hair? 0:57:13.800 --> 0:57:15.800 Now we're finna go into some details, but obviously what 0:57:15.960 --> 0:57:20.760 is your perceive He's obviously endorsing, right, which I don't 0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:21.280 care about that. 0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:22.680 But my thing is the. 0:57:22.720 --> 0:57:26.680 Niggas who made you famous, these niggas in America, these ghettos, 0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:29.480 because we pushed cuz like he couldn't just be a 0:57:29.520 --> 0:57:32.640 pop star and be that. We pushed cut the ghettos. 0:57:32.680 --> 0:57:36.000 Push Cuse, we said the females, the black women from 0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:37.200 the ghettos, push cus. 0:57:37.480 --> 0:57:39.920 You ain't said nothing about nothing happening to these sisters. 0:57:39.960 --> 0:57:41.920 You ain't posting nothing that's happening to these sisters. You're 0:57:41.920 --> 0:57:44.280 not saying nothing about no nigga. And I gotta let 0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:45.800 that go because you was Canadian. I'm like, you know what, 0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:47.080 he don't have to get a fuck what happened to 0:57:47.120 --> 0:57:50.720 American niggas. I don't disagree with you on that point, 0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:53.560 because I do think at certain points in time, it'd 0:57:53.600 --> 0:57:56.520 be nice if we knew what Drake thought about I 0:57:56.600 --> 0:57:59.480 don't know George Floyd or Breonna Tagos. 0:57:59.520 --> 0:58:01.760 I'm not even asking that because most power wars or 0:58:02.760 --> 0:58:03.080 you know, he. 0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:06.480 Lives here a lot, like there's a lot of turmoil 0:58:06.560 --> 0:58:08.000 going on with our political system. 0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:11.240 Just any sort of opinion, I'm okay with that. But 0:58:11.400 --> 0:58:14.120 like you said, he's Canadian. Yes, what do you think 0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:15.080 about Justin Trudeau? 0:58:15.200 --> 0:58:17.560 Drake? Facts? Facts? What do you think about the Canadian 0:58:17.600 --> 0:58:20.000 truck drivers who I'm not mad because that's a hip 0:58:20.040 --> 0:58:22.640 hop responsibilitykay, okay, And that's what I think. That's separate 0:58:22.680 --> 0:58:24.760 than you think. Gend with his haircliffs. 0:58:24.760 --> 0:58:26.720 You're missing the point of somebody that's so brilliant to 0:58:26.840 --> 0:58:29.920 know not to speak on something. He's so smart, this nigga. 0:58:30.280 --> 0:58:32.480 Him and forty are some of the best scientists I've 0:58:32.520 --> 0:58:34.760 ever seen in the music business, like when it comes 0:58:34.800 --> 0:58:37.360 to creating records, marketing and understand how to markets, like 0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:38.000 Michael Jordan. 0:58:38.120 --> 0:58:42.920 Right, Like Michael Jordan purposely has said Republicans and Democrats 0:58:43.000 --> 0:58:44.919 by both my sneakers. Why would I take a stance 0:58:45.000 --> 0:58:47.080 on any of this publicly, because then I kind of 0:58:47.520 --> 0:58:49.280 and Drake's kind of the same kind of guy. But 0:58:49.440 --> 0:58:51.840 but Drake appeals to everybody, and I don't think he 0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:54.120 wants to fuck that up, and I'm not mad at that. 0:58:54.240 --> 0:58:56.960 But my thing is right, that's why. You know who 0:58:57.000 --> 0:58:58.640 else does that? Pop stars? 0:58:59.720 --> 0:59:02.080 Yeah, and then there's also artists. There's no hip hop 0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:02.720 artists that do that. 0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:05.280 We won't even let him go. We won't even nick 0:59:05.680 --> 0:59:09.600 if you try that. If you try that and you 0:59:09.800 --> 0:59:12.680 represent us, it's a problem. Wait a minute, you're not 0:59:12.720 --> 0:59:14.760 gonna speak of Thug said something like, oh, we ain't 0:59:14.760 --> 0:59:16.280 talking about that shit. We talking about young niggas. 0:59:16.360 --> 0:59:19.080 They was asking Thug about the boy that got killed 0:59:19.480 --> 0:59:21.040 Mike uh in Ohio. 0:59:21.320 --> 0:59:24.080 What's brother Mike Michael. 0:59:24.280 --> 0:59:26.560 Mike Brown, Michael Mike Brown, Michael Brown. And it was like, yeah, 0:59:26.600 --> 0:59:28.080 you know, he was on the red carpet. It's like, 0:59:28.200 --> 0:59:29.480 you know how you feel about Mike Brown. He's like, 0:59:29.520 --> 0:59:31.400 oh man, we ain't tripping off that old politics shit. 0:59:31.440 --> 0:59:34.520 We out here getting niggas fell apart. Oh my god, 0:59:34.840 --> 0:59:37.280 you motherfucking this niggas is a nigga who do drugs. 0:59:37.640 --> 0:59:39.600 He I don't even think we should even really want 0:59:39.680 --> 0:59:42.400 his opinion because he go through so much mental shit 0:59:42.480 --> 0:59:46.200 and be high. Yeah, you're not gonna look to thug 0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:48.040 for political views, but. 0:59:48.080 --> 0:59:50.200 He still has to because guess why. He is from 0:59:50.240 --> 0:59:52.680 the ghetto in Atlanta. And we like you better talk, 0:59:53.080 --> 0:59:56.320 you better speak for us. And that's the responsibility of 0:59:56.400 --> 0:59:56.800 hip hop. 0:59:56.880 --> 0:59:57.800 I don't give a fuck. 0:59:57.600 --> 1:00:01.840 If it's tried, daylight or soul, anybody. You are responsible 1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:07.000 for speaking for us in hip hop. Okay, So and 1:00:07.160 --> 1:00:09.160 if you don't, we look at you funny. But the 1:00:09.200 --> 1:00:11.360 only people we don't worry about is people that ain't 1:00:11.640 --> 1:00:11.960 hip hop. 1:00:12.040 --> 1:00:14.360 So what's the issue with with the hair clips? 1:00:14.800 --> 1:00:16.400 Not that I have no issues with it, I'm saying, 1:00:16.680 --> 1:00:19.120 I'm asking you, this is the first you aren't going 1:00:19.160 --> 1:00:23.320 to so you are your stand says he's purposely from 1:00:23.400 --> 1:00:25.360 the nails, the hair, He's gonna keep going. 1:00:25.960 --> 1:00:28.760 Okay. So do you think Andre three thousand was doing 1:00:28.800 --> 1:00:31.600 that in ninety six, ninety seven when when when he 1:00:31.760 --> 1:00:32.800 was wearing certain. 1:00:33.280 --> 1:00:35.520 No, I just think he got Erica Badu pussy and 1:00:35.560 --> 1:00:38.600 that pussy is some shit. Okay, Drake ain't gotta no 1:00:38.680 --> 1:00:39.120 Erica Badu. 1:00:39.400 --> 1:00:41.720 What about Thug when Thug warred dress on his album cover. 1:00:41.880 --> 1:00:43.640 Yeah, I think Thug is from Atlanta, where the street 1:00:43.720 --> 1:00:46.760 urban culture is tied into homosexuality. For some reason, nobody 1:00:46.800 --> 1:00:50.000 in Atlanta talks about it's like right there, Like I've 1:00:50.120 --> 1:00:54.240 never seen a bigger demographic of gay black folks in 1:00:54.360 --> 1:00:55.400 the ghetto like Atlanta. 1:00:55.560 --> 1:00:59.360 Never seen that. Do you think it's possible Drake just 1:00:59.440 --> 1:01:01.360 got a bag of air clips? No zero chance. 1:01:01.960 --> 1:01:04.880 He's too smart. He's too smart to just do something 1:01:04.920 --> 1:01:09.120 and don't have no impossible, it's impossible zero if. 1:01:09.040 --> 1:01:12.560 We're zero zero percent zero present, not even a half 1:01:12.600 --> 1:01:15.000 a percent chance he just puts some hair clips in 1:01:15.080 --> 1:01:17.840 his hair and they have different colors. No zero chance? 1:01:18.200 --> 1:01:19.560 What zero chance? 1:01:20.800 --> 1:01:25.600 He's Drake. Drake is brilliant dog. There's a confusion. Drake 1:01:25.760 --> 1:01:28.120 is fucking brilliant dog. Him and forty together dog. The 1:01:28.200 --> 1:01:32.760 niggas could put shit together forty to produce, like he 1:01:32.840 --> 1:01:35.120 could come with ship bro. They could push it together 1:01:35.160 --> 1:01:36.800 like some of the ship they be doing. Be like 1:01:37.120 --> 1:01:38.800 fuck like you know what I mean, because you got 1:01:38.920 --> 1:01:41.400 to catch up to this ship and it's like fuck, like, 1:01:41.520 --> 1:01:45.720 this is how smart they are. He's a marketing fucking machine, 1:01:46.520 --> 1:01:48.280 you know what I mean. He knows well. 1:01:50.120 --> 1:01:51.440 I think that you're real reaching. 1:01:52.040 --> 1:01:53.880 I understand why you feel that way, because would actually 1:01:53.920 --> 1:01:56.440 mean you would have to be accountable for decisions you make. No, 1:01:56.960 --> 1:01:58.840 we love a world where we could just make people 1:02:00.200 --> 1:02:01.640 hip hop. We have to be account I. 1:02:01.720 --> 1:02:04.280 Just think not everything famous people does has an agenda 1:02:04.320 --> 1:02:04.880 attached to it. 1:02:05.080 --> 1:02:07.360 I know, because you which it don't make sense because 1:02:07.360 --> 1:02:08.840 you would think that some of these people are some 1:02:08.960 --> 1:02:11.480 of the greatest marketing minds ever, and you would think 1:02:11.520 --> 1:02:14.240 that they would accidentally do something even though they've been 1:02:14.280 --> 1:02:15.919 controlling the narrative for twenty years. 1:02:16.280 --> 1:02:22.720 Okay, switching subjects, Shout out to Drake. Yeah, you had 1:02:22.760 --> 1:02:25.080 a song that was called Tupac deserved to die, no 1:02:25.760 --> 1:02:28.959 muster or Tupac must die. Sorry music video was dope? 1:02:30.160 --> 1:02:30.680 What was it about? 1:02:30.720 --> 1:02:31.320 Four years old? 1:02:31.400 --> 1:02:31.480 Now? 1:02:31.560 --> 1:02:32.160 Fire years old? 1:02:32.200 --> 1:02:33.080 It was four years now? 1:02:34.560 --> 1:02:40.000 What are your thoughts on Keithy D's arrest. He's obviously 1:02:40.120 --> 1:02:42.520 been doing a bunch of interviews over the last five 1:02:42.600 --> 1:02:46.360 six years, just kind of I mean, holding nothing back 1:02:46.400 --> 1:02:48.240 in these interviews, which is kind of crazy. It ended 1:02:48.320 --> 1:02:49.840 up biting him in the ass in a real way, 1:02:51.920 --> 1:02:54.840 just as a someone who you know made that song, 1:02:54.960 --> 1:02:57.840 someone who is a fan of you know, hip hop 1:02:57.920 --> 1:02:59.919 and what happened, and not a fan of what happened. 1:03:00.120 --> 1:03:05.240 Obviously you didn't have so obviously, but just what I'm saying, 1:03:05.320 --> 1:03:07.000 just kind of what your thoughts on on on the 1:03:07.080 --> 1:03:07.840 Tupac arrest. 1:03:08.560 --> 1:03:10.320 I need to really see the discovery. I need to 1:03:10.360 --> 1:03:12.240 see the evidence. I was crazy because they did. 1:03:12.280 --> 1:03:13.560 They had to have arrested him because they had to 1:03:13.560 --> 1:03:14.720 because they did go and raid the house. 1:03:15.280 --> 1:03:17.920 And I think that's more about what happened after that. 1:03:18.360 --> 1:03:19.920 Like I need to see the discovery. I need to 1:03:19.960 --> 1:03:22.120 see what how it led to this arrest, because I 1:03:22.120 --> 1:03:24.280 don't think it's the interviews. I think the interviews could 1:03:24.320 --> 1:03:27.280 create a situation to get a warrant, right, but I 1:03:27.320 --> 1:03:28.680 don't think it can lead to an arrest. 1:03:28.760 --> 1:03:30.480 I agree with you on that something they had to 1:03:30.560 --> 1:03:32.919 if something happened, something happened where they had. 1:03:32.840 --> 1:03:34.760 To and I need to see that before I really 1:03:35.120 --> 1:03:36.120 because the interview. 1:03:36.040 --> 1:03:38.240 I mean, like you said, the interview could have resulted 1:03:38.280 --> 1:03:41.120 in the raid, like the warrant to kick the tow down, 1:03:41.440 --> 1:03:43.920 got to get your raid. Yes, Now outside of that, 1:03:44.720 --> 1:03:46.040 you know they had to they had to spend the 1:03:46.080 --> 1:03:47.000 block and then go arrest. 1:03:47.320 --> 1:03:50.400 Something happened. So as far as that, I don't quite know. 1:03:51.320 --> 1:03:53.160 I don't want to see nobody in jail, you know 1:03:53.200 --> 1:03:54.360 what I mean, Not like. 1:03:54.520 --> 1:03:57.120 That's what Knight said. Shug said. I think he said 1:03:57.120 --> 1:03:59.320 he grew up playing Pop Warner with ke d Or. Yeah. 1:03:59.320 --> 1:04:01.120 I just don't want to see nobody in jail because. 1:04:00.960 --> 1:04:03.320 I understand he would not wish jail on anybody. 1:04:03.520 --> 1:04:06.919 Yeah, I know the consequences if I do something, So again, 1:04:07.160 --> 1:04:09.160 justice looks a lot different for me than it does 1:04:09.200 --> 1:04:12.640 to other people. So whatever gotta happen, got to happen, 1:04:12.720 --> 1:04:13.880 you know what I mean. But I would love to 1:04:13.880 --> 1:04:18.440 see the discovery of what what really led to the arrest, 1:04:18.520 --> 1:04:19.920 you know, because I didn't think it was gonna be 1:04:19.920 --> 1:04:23.000 able to happen, but the raid created one moment. And 1:04:23.080 --> 1:04:25.000 then the way they do the grand jury out there 1:04:25.040 --> 1:04:27.040 is like it can be going for a year, like 1:04:27.120 --> 1:04:29.439 you could keep bringing shit back like is this enough? 1:04:29.960 --> 1:04:32.520 Well, right, if it is proven that he was in 1:04:32.600 --> 1:04:35.200 the car, isn't that enough to put him in jail 1:04:35.240 --> 1:04:35.680 for two. 1:04:37.240 --> 1:04:42.640 But I don't think you can use the interviews as 1:04:42.760 --> 1:04:43.120 a way that. 1:04:43.920 --> 1:04:47.760 I think. I think they have something else. Whatever, that's 1:04:47.800 --> 1:04:49.560 something else because. 1:04:49.640 --> 1:04:52.760 In that car that night, so California becomes felony murder. 1:04:53.000 --> 1:04:55.000 I don't know what it looks like in Nevada, but 1:04:55.360 --> 1:04:56.800 I'm sure they got something similar. 1:04:56.920 --> 1:04:57.120 Yeah. 1:04:57.400 --> 1:05:01.000 So I mean they say he's a mastermind, which again 1:05:01.120 --> 1:05:03.200 I need to see how is he the mastermind? 1:05:03.280 --> 1:05:03.760 You know what I mean? 1:05:03.800 --> 1:05:07.760 Because I think, listen, the reality is Keithy with some 1:05:07.840 --> 1:05:10.240 shit Like Keithy was a rich nigga, the reason the 1:05:10.320 --> 1:05:12.800 South Side Chris was the richest hood and counter when 1:05:12.800 --> 1:05:15.320 I was a kid, him cat name think they was 1:05:15.440 --> 1:05:17.080 like super rich when I was younger. 1:05:17.160 --> 1:05:19.080 Yeah, so he just wasn't just some random dude from 1:05:19.160 --> 1:05:21.440 Vegas for people. Yeah, he was actually he was a 1:05:21.520 --> 1:05:22.120 real factor. 1:05:22.240 --> 1:05:24.360 And if you and them, dudes, I mean, this is 1:05:24.440 --> 1:05:26.920 any gang in La man, if you jump on somebody, 1:05:27.680 --> 1:05:30.000 they can pretty much bring your hat to you. If 1:05:30.040 --> 1:05:32.120 they if they decided for that to be their purpose, 1:05:32.160 --> 1:05:33.960 it don't matter who it is, as long as you 1:05:34.080 --> 1:05:34.600 around here. 1:05:35.320 --> 1:05:39.160 Thing is, it's it's just nice to see that they 1:05:39.200 --> 1:05:41.560 didn't necessarily give up. 1:05:42.720 --> 1:05:45.600 What's crazy is when I think about it, right, it's 1:05:46.400 --> 1:05:53.160 for twenty seven years and then he moved to Novata after, 1:05:53.720 --> 1:05:54.880 you know what I mean, like and I think he 1:05:55.040 --> 1:05:57.240 been there, you know what I mean. But it's it's 1:05:57.240 --> 1:05:59.600 a it's a it's a weird thing going on about 1:05:59.600 --> 1:06:00.720 the whole to white and soul. 1:06:01.040 --> 1:06:04.080 Well, I mean, I see, I see some speculation about 1:06:06.320 --> 1:06:07.280 people's involvement. 1:06:07.600 --> 1:06:10.200 Ain't buying a puff. I conld make a joke anyway, 1:06:10.240 --> 1:06:12.640 but there's no My issue with that is because there's 1:06:12.680 --> 1:06:14.440 no way he could owe them a million dollars and 1:06:14.560 --> 1:06:16.400 then puff be alive for a year and they doubling 1:06:16.520 --> 1:06:18.840 back out here and they ain't got that money. That 1:06:19.080 --> 1:06:20.600 just and I don't believe that, But I think that 1:06:20.720 --> 1:06:23.960 made the story interesting enough to tell the story, and 1:06:24.200 --> 1:06:27.960 it puts somebody else as the head in the story, 1:06:28.080 --> 1:06:30.000 you know what I mean. I don't quite know why 1:06:30.200 --> 1:06:31.920 that would be the story. I mean, and then I 1:06:31.960 --> 1:06:34.600 could just be wrong cuz, like well, because there was that, 1:06:34.680 --> 1:06:35.600 I just don't believe it. 1:06:36.600 --> 1:06:38.400 But you know what's fun, there was that La Times 1:06:38.520 --> 1:06:41.440 article that was written that insinuated Puff was involved, as 1:06:41.520 --> 1:06:43.400 crazy as there's no way I could think of Puff 1:06:43.560 --> 1:06:46.360 like that. But if you think about Puff, Puff has. 1:06:46.280 --> 1:06:49.240 Became Shug lately. He is the sugar of how niggas 1:06:49.320 --> 1:06:52.240 firing niggas shut up, and he'd have jumped on Jake Call. 1:06:54.280 --> 1:06:55.720 I don't know if this is I don't know if 1:06:55.760 --> 1:06:56.960 this is true or not, but I heard do you 1:06:56.960 --> 1:06:59.840 remember that guy Chopper who was on making the bands? 1:07:01.280 --> 1:07:04.080 I heard when he was having issues with with Diddy. 1:07:04.360 --> 1:07:05.600 And I don't know if this is true, but I've 1:07:05.640 --> 1:07:09.000 heard this from a a couple of people. Puffy bought 1:07:09.080 --> 1:07:12.480 the house across the street from Trappa's mom just to 1:07:12.600 --> 1:07:15.440 fuck with him, like I own the house across the 1:07:15.480 --> 1:07:17.200 street from your mom, like I always have eyes on 1:07:17.440 --> 1:07:17.920 your mom's. 1:07:19.920 --> 1:07:23.600 That's crazy because Puff was like, I don't know, man, Puff. 1:07:24.040 --> 1:07:26.560 I can't believe it though, because Puff Puff seems like 1:07:26.600 --> 1:07:28.400 an alright guy, but I don't know cuz you know 1:07:28.440 --> 1:07:28.840 what I mean, like. 1:07:28.960 --> 1:07:30.360 Not for sure. I mean, listen, I met him a 1:07:30.360 --> 1:07:32.720 couple of times and also seemed like an alright guy, 1:07:32.880 --> 1:07:35.080 Like I don't but I just I just can't like 1:07:35.160 --> 1:07:37.920 the guy you just never really fuck with for whatever reason, 1:07:38.000 --> 1:07:39.800 Like people kind of know not to fuck with Puffy. 1:07:39.880 --> 1:07:41.160 Yeah, but I don't think it's out of a fear 1:07:41.200 --> 1:07:42.880 that Puff is gonna get at you. I think it's 1:07:42.920 --> 1:07:45.840 just like Puff is so like why would you want 1:07:45.880 --> 1:07:47.080 to burn a bridge with Puff? 1:07:47.200 --> 1:07:47.640 With Diddy? 1:07:48.120 --> 1:07:49.600 Like you know what I mean, I never got like 1:07:49.840 --> 1:07:52.080 I've never in my life saw puffin thought to myself, 1:07:52.120 --> 1:07:53.959 even when he was arguing with the man from Power 1:07:54.080 --> 1:07:56.240 on the corner, because he was talking, I was like, man, 1:07:56.280 --> 1:07:57.880 that that was Mere. 1:07:57.280 --> 1:07:58.960 Talking about when he was dressed like the Joker. 1:07:59.040 --> 1:08:01.400 Yeah, and I'm like, man, cuss Puff ass out of fire. 1:08:01.440 --> 1:08:04.080 Pushally did that because I just I see Puff is 1:08:04.160 --> 1:08:07.479 such a responsible man. I just can't see him wanting 1:08:07.520 --> 1:08:09.600 to throw his life away, and. 1:08:09.640 --> 1:08:11.880 He also has so much like going on. You would 1:08:12.160 --> 1:08:15.600 be like, Puff's not stupid, so he's. 1:08:17.000 --> 1:08:19.320 And then I can't see the South sides letting him 1:08:19.360 --> 1:08:22.639 get away with a million dollar debt for all that time, 1:08:23.840 --> 1:08:25.639 it makes sense that ain't gonna even last. And these 1:08:25.720 --> 1:08:27.479 niggas had something like when I tell you, these niggas 1:08:27.520 --> 1:08:29.320 had some money. Man, when I was going up them, 1:08:29.400 --> 1:08:31.840 niggas had money. I'm talking about real money. He was 1:08:31.840 --> 1:08:35.280 out of fucking Mike Tyson fight. I mean, these niggas got. 1:08:35.240 --> 1:08:37.679 Some money in the nineties. That's the ticket of the session. 1:08:37.680 --> 1:08:40.640 There's no way I could see them letting Cus get 1:08:40.680 --> 1:08:42.679 away with owing them that kind of money and ain't 1:08:42.720 --> 1:08:44.920 nothing happening because they had have been tearing his ass up. 1:08:46.040 --> 1:08:52.080 I wonder if this will motivate UH any sort of 1:08:53.040 --> 1:08:55.720 resolve in the Biggie murder, and I don't think it 1:08:55.760 --> 1:08:57.960 will because I think the LAPD was obviously involved off 1:08:58.000 --> 1:08:58.960 through the cops, et cetera. 1:08:59.439 --> 1:09:01.760 I just think the Biggie murder was a professional hit, 1:09:02.000 --> 1:09:02.799 and it's just different. 1:09:03.640 --> 1:09:05.439 Yeah. I think it was a professional hit, and I 1:09:05.479 --> 1:09:08.760 think for whatever reason it would have impliced, it would 1:09:08.760 --> 1:09:10.400 have made the l a p D look really bad 1:09:10.520 --> 1:09:12.040 had they solved it properly. 1:09:11.840 --> 1:09:13.519 But even then the fans could come in. I just 1:09:13.600 --> 1:09:17.240 think it's hard to prove what happened like because it 1:09:17.360 --> 1:09:21.840 was so done professionally. The pot ship is different, Like 1:09:21.920 --> 1:09:23.960 we heard about that ship in real time, Like this 1:09:24.120 --> 1:09:26.400 is really I mean they just death row niggas just 1:09:26.479 --> 1:09:29.680 jumped Baty Lane like you you heard that in real 1:09:29.760 --> 1:09:32.200 time when it happened that night. Then you heard pod 1:09:32.240 --> 1:09:34.000 got shot. You could put two and two like it was. 1:09:34.240 --> 1:09:38.440 It makes sense. It was one one event affected another event. 1:09:38.280 --> 1:09:42.280 And it was a normal thing around that happened. The 1:09:42.400 --> 1:09:46.479 big Ship surprised everybody. None of us thought heard nothing 1:09:46.600 --> 1:09:48.400 big it was a hit. No, none of us even 1:09:48.439 --> 1:09:51.320 heard nothing about who did a PA hit? Yeah, like 1:09:51.439 --> 1:09:54.680 that was like a real job. So I don't I 1:09:54.760 --> 1:09:55.599 think it's just different. 1:09:57.479 --> 1:10:00.040 Why don't you think Kanye has a classic album? What 1:10:00.200 --> 1:10:03.280 said that? Well, you said, no one has four classic 1:10:03.320 --> 1:10:05.360 albums and hip hop? Oh I don't know why the 1:10:05.400 --> 1:10:07.760 tweet I saw, I thought that. By the way, you're wrong, 1:10:08.000 --> 1:10:10.800 but uh, no one has four classic albums. Again, y'all 1:10:10.920 --> 1:10:13.240 keep making classics. It's just ship you like, or that's 1:10:15.120 --> 1:10:20.320 four college dropout late registration registration is not a it's 1:10:20.320 --> 1:10:22.880 his best album, that's not don't mean it's his classic 1:10:23.080 --> 1:10:24.880 classic shifts The game. 1:10:25.280 --> 1:10:29.400 It's not like late registration and graduations are ploys off 1:10:29.439 --> 1:10:32.400 of college dropout. They're not different things. They're not true 1:10:32.439 --> 1:10:33.519 graduations way different. 1:10:33.640 --> 1:10:35.479 It's not music. 1:10:35.520 --> 1:10:38.599 He sampled that don't mean nothing, don't mean nothing. 1:10:38.680 --> 1:10:41.880 It was the same ship classic albums. No, My Beautiful Dart, 1:10:41.880 --> 1:10:42.920 Twits and Fantasy is a classic. 1:10:43.280 --> 1:10:47.120 I'm not even gonna listen. I could take that greatest. 1:10:47.160 --> 1:10:49.360 It might be the greatest album ever. No, it might 1:10:49.439 --> 1:10:53.840 be No, all right, No, college dropped outs a classic. Yeah, 1:10:55.479 --> 1:10:57.560 And if you want to talk about changing stuff. 1:10:57.320 --> 1:11:00.160 And the way it heartbreaks, which I can't and what 1:11:00.720 --> 1:11:05.440 Jesus no, but I do totally enjoy us. A real Kanye. 1:11:05.240 --> 1:11:09.640 Fansis made Travis Scott possible. Listen. I'm not this and 1:11:09.680 --> 1:11:12.639 Travis was very much instrumental into the making of that album. 1:11:12.720 --> 1:11:15.759 You're not going to hear any debates with me about 1:11:15.960 --> 1:11:16.679 props for Yeasy. 1:11:16.760 --> 1:11:19.759 I'm not going to jump off. It's not a classic album. 1:11:19.880 --> 1:11:23.280 I can ask classic. I think I think Late Registration 1:11:23.360 --> 1:11:27.000 and Graduation are classic. No, I think Kanye his first 1:11:27.040 --> 1:11:28.080 five albums are classic. 1:11:28.160 --> 1:11:30.599 That don't even make sense. Somebody dropped five classic albums 1:11:30.600 --> 1:11:33.000 in the rold. Just think about what that would be. No, 1:11:33.680 --> 1:11:34.519 it don't even makes sense. 1:11:34.600 --> 1:11:37.320 Kanye listed No, No, he's got the greatest discography and 1:11:37.400 --> 1:11:39.519 hip hop history. I wouldn't even even I wouldn't even 1:11:39.560 --> 1:11:41.560 mind arguing that, Like, I'm okay with that, But he 1:11:41.600 --> 1:11:44.040 don't got five fucking classic albums. Do you know who 1:11:44.040 --> 1:11:48.760 else has four? Oh? Outcast? No? Yeah, God damn it, 1:11:48.840 --> 1:11:52.800 y'all just make anything a classic? What are you talking about, bro, Listen, 1:11:52.880 --> 1:11:53.720 A classic. 1:11:53.400 --> 1:11:55.559 Don't mean you really like it or it's really good. 1:11:56.000 --> 1:11:58.560 This is, by the way, this is your definition of 1:11:58.600 --> 1:11:59.040 a classic. 1:11:59.160 --> 1:12:01.120 Mine's is the author, aready figure in the conversation? 1:12:01.360 --> 1:12:05.679 Okay? As a product? Okay, So you think Outcast doesn't 1:12:05.720 --> 1:12:06.559 have four classics. 1:12:08.360 --> 1:12:11.320 Look if somebody I said, no, one in hip hop 1:12:11.360 --> 1:12:14.680 has four, not a soul, not a soul, and I 1:12:14.840 --> 1:12:16.599 think to hip hop. 1:12:16.479 --> 1:12:18.519 Fans, this is Kendrick has three. 1:12:19.160 --> 1:12:21.640 I'm not even gonna be First off, I came the 1:12:21.720 --> 1:12:24.760 fact that niggas was throwing that in the conversation was great. 1:12:24.800 --> 1:12:25.479 I couldn't believe. 1:12:25.479 --> 1:12:28.120 I was like, it was like DoD got five, Kendrick 1:12:28.160 --> 1:12:30.559 has three. I think it. I think to be determined 1:12:30.560 --> 1:12:32.439 on his last album, even though I really know. I 1:12:32.479 --> 1:12:34.120 still listen to it a lot. It's not a class 1:12:34.160 --> 1:12:36.280 I still listen. It's not to be determined. No, no, no, 1:12:36.720 --> 1:12:39.000 that's fair. I wouldn't put it in the Pimper Butterfly, 1:12:39.280 --> 1:12:42.160 Damn or good Kid Mad City converse. 1:12:42.200 --> 1:12:44.160 I don't even think people give Damn the correct credit. 1:12:44.240 --> 1:12:46.720 So I agree, agree. I think those are the three though. 1:12:46.760 --> 1:12:48.640 But but I think when you say classic, like, I 1:12:48.720 --> 1:12:51.559 think there's certain albums that are classic. Ill Madic has 1:12:51.600 --> 1:12:53.160 been regarded as a classic. 1:12:53.160 --> 1:12:55.840 Dog you style, right, dog style The Chronicles, by the way, what, 1:12:56.080 --> 1:12:57.760 in your opinion, what's the better album of the Chronic 1:12:57.800 --> 1:13:01.240 of two thousand and one, two thousand and one. Yeah, well, 1:13:01.439 --> 1:13:02.160 I like the age. 1:13:02.240 --> 1:13:05.160 I like the Chronic because the Chronic has these really 1:13:05.280 --> 1:13:06.000 important joints. 1:13:06.080 --> 1:13:09.400 Yes, but two thousand and one, if you right now, masterful, Yeah, 1:13:09.640 --> 1:13:11.880 some masterful. I just worked out to two thousand and one, 1:13:11.960 --> 1:13:12.840 like a month ago. 1:13:12.920 --> 1:13:14.760 I just played it and I was straight out of 1:13:14.800 --> 1:13:16.759 Compton as a classic Eddie Griffin. 1:13:17.160 --> 1:13:21.479 His skits on two thousand and one am so fired. 1:13:22.479 --> 1:13:24.960 Dre has always been faking your mama was a hot 1:13:25.680 --> 1:13:30.880 weekend pussy. That's crazy, okay, So yeah, but no, I 1:13:31.080 --> 1:13:32.519 was saying no one in hip hop assa. 1:13:32.600 --> 1:13:35.200 Okay, I think I misunderstood the tweet thread that I 1:13:35.280 --> 1:13:37.880 might have saw you replied to, because you know, I 1:13:37.960 --> 1:13:41.519 thought you were saying that Kanye didn't have any classic albums, 1:13:41.560 --> 1:13:43.240 which I was just like, no, there's no way. 1:13:43.479 --> 1:13:44.720 I'm really careful with. 1:13:44.720 --> 1:13:47.000 Because I get Richard I try and classic. 1:13:47.439 --> 1:13:49.600 Hell yeah, that's fucking fantastic. 1:13:49.640 --> 1:13:52.680 But I'm saying, does Eminem have a classic? I don't know. 1:13:52.760 --> 1:13:54.800 I have to think about Martin Maisp that would be 1:13:54.880 --> 1:13:59.360 the one, or Eminem shows. It's probably Marshall Mathers to 1:13:59.439 --> 1:14:01.599 your definite, I think EVANDAM Show is the better album. 1:14:01.960 --> 1:14:07.160 What would but but Fix is Scarface's classic. Yes, made 1:14:07.280 --> 1:14:08.040 is a better album. 1:14:08.600 --> 1:14:12.040 I like the Diary too and the Diaries and I 1:14:12.120 --> 1:14:13.719 think Untouchable was his best album. 1:14:14.560 --> 1:14:20.360 Fix it was a classic. Fix Fix has my favorite 1:14:20.840 --> 1:14:24.479 NOS verse ever. My favorite NODS verse ironically is on 1:14:24.680 --> 1:14:25.200 We Major. 1:14:26.040 --> 1:14:30.040 Oh yeah, are that between us? Between me and you? 1:14:30.160 --> 1:14:32.759 Whatever the fuck that record is on the Fix, Jesus Christ, 1:14:32.880 --> 1:14:34.080 NOAs went the fucking. 1:14:34.600 --> 1:14:38.719 Uh That verse All We Major is crazy. It's victory 1:14:38.800 --> 1:14:41.720 lap of classic. I think it's been deemed they went 1:14:41.800 --> 1:14:45.080 back and got it right to classic when it was 1:14:45.120 --> 1:14:45.519 first release. 1:14:45.560 --> 1:14:46.479 But I think it but. 1:14:48.080 --> 1:14:50.920 Dogg Ye Style, the same thing happened with Doggie Style. 1:14:51.600 --> 1:14:54.439 The same thing happened with There was a few records. 1:14:54.520 --> 1:14:57.840 That One thing I'll give hip hop credit is they 1:14:57.880 --> 1:14:59.800 will go back and write their wrongs. They did that 1:14:59.840 --> 1:15:01.240 with reasonable doubt. They did it. 1:15:01.520 --> 1:15:04.479 That's fair because I remember Blueprint being the first one 1:15:04.520 --> 1:15:06.559 everybody thought was a classic. But it's like, what about 1:15:06.640 --> 1:15:09.800 everybody double back? And I remember having reasonable doubt thinking that. 1:15:09.960 --> 1:15:12.439 Then now they got it right right, because that's been 1:15:12.479 --> 1:15:14.000 the person that's come up a lot as J and 1:15:14.040 --> 1:15:17.320 I'm a diehard J Face Snoop scar. 1:15:17.280 --> 1:15:21.200 For what's Outcast classic album to you? Aliens at Alien? Yeah, yeah, 1:15:21.600 --> 1:15:23.519 I think it's Quemini. If you're gonna pick a one, 1:15:23.800 --> 1:15:25.720 I'm not mad at that right there. 1:15:25.960 --> 1:15:27.880 Cast is like that weird group to where so many 1:15:28.000 --> 1:15:30.280 things it's so possible with them, and they. 1:15:30.320 --> 1:15:33.280 Now have the greatest selling hip hop album ever. They 1:15:33.479 --> 1:15:37.120 just passed uh eminem eminem. 1:15:37.320 --> 1:15:40.280 It's a double CD though, true, so it's gonna get 1:15:40.320 --> 1:15:41.000 counted twice. 1:15:41.120 --> 1:15:43.120 But you know, whatever, do you remember those days when 1:15:43.160 --> 1:15:45.960 like a ball was dropping triple albums like lost that. 1:15:46.040 --> 1:15:48.040 It was like, Yo, if you did forty was doing 1:15:48.080 --> 1:15:48.679 that shit crazy? 1:15:48.720 --> 1:15:50.479 If you just did three hundred and thirty three thousand, 1:15:50.520 --> 1:15:54.120 you're platinum. Yeah, that's pretty slick. And then motherfuckers was 1:15:54.160 --> 1:15:56.559 dropping two albums on the same day. Who was here? Oh, 1:15:56.600 --> 1:15:58.519 I just was talking to insane clown posse. They were here, 1:15:59.080 --> 1:16:03.200 violent j and he's dope. Yeah, he was cool. 1:16:03.320 --> 1:16:04.360 He was very Uh. 1:16:06.040 --> 1:16:08.519 You know, I got uncles like him that that's a 1:16:08.560 --> 1:16:10.599 lot of dope in their life and are just very 1:16:10.720 --> 1:16:12.920 like he was. He was just very He was jittering, 1:16:13.200 --> 1:16:16.280 such a cool dude, super nice, super jitter And we 1:16:16.320 --> 1:16:19.120 would talk and I'd ask him a question and then 1:16:19.200 --> 1:16:21.679 he would just go off on like a random tangent 1:16:21.800 --> 1:16:24.160 about something unrelated to the question. 1:16:24.439 --> 1:16:26.599 But them drugs be connecting different brain st. 1:16:26.800 --> 1:16:29.960 No, he was so cool. And I'm always real tough 1:16:30.040 --> 1:16:32.040 on juggalos because I think for the most part they 1:16:32.080 --> 1:16:36.120 have really bad Uh they're not good at the upkeep 1:16:36.160 --> 1:16:37.600 of their personal hygien But. 1:16:37.680 --> 1:16:40.280 You know what it is, man, Juggalos is like I 1:16:40.360 --> 1:16:42.120 always felt like they was the ghetto white people. 1:16:42.439 --> 1:16:45.360 Oh yeah, but the most but the most ghetto. But 1:16:45.479 --> 1:16:48.800 that's why I actually clicked with them. Yeah, because I mean, listen, 1:16:48.840 --> 1:16:53.080 there's ghetto white people and then there's like the Juggalo. 1:16:54.280 --> 1:16:57.479 I love the motherfuckers. Yeah, I don't know, that's just 1:16:57.600 --> 1:16:58.040 my people. 1:16:58.120 --> 1:16:58.880 I don't have I. 1:17:00.880 --> 1:17:01.920 Did the fucking uh. 1:17:02.360 --> 1:17:04.360 You did the gathering, the gathering. Oh so you went 1:17:04.400 --> 1:17:09.000 to the gathering? Did you see the tent or the 1:17:09.080 --> 1:17:09.559 drug breaks? 1:17:09.640 --> 1:17:12.040 Even though people just fucking I've seen the drug? 1:17:12.200 --> 1:17:12.880 What does smell like? 1:17:13.360 --> 1:17:15.200 I didn't. I didn't get close enough. But I don't 1:17:15.240 --> 1:17:21.559 think it's I'm sa I love him, motherfucking I don't 1:17:21.560 --> 1:17:23.040 know my people. 1:17:23.160 --> 1:17:25.439 The Jugglers are so funny because, like I posted, and 1:17:25.479 --> 1:17:28.240 I've always given up my because I actually think ICP 1:17:29.439 --> 1:17:32.760 on a business model standpoint, are pioneers and hip hop. 1:17:33.360 --> 1:17:36.000 I think that what they did with their merchandising, I 1:17:36.040 --> 1:17:38.080 think Tech nine gets a lot and technos I feel 1:17:38.080 --> 1:17:39.080 this way, tech gets a. 1:17:39.120 --> 1:17:43.360 Lot of I think that, Yeah, I think Travis had did. 1:17:43.720 --> 1:17:46.479 Travis had has done a really good job on improving 1:17:46.520 --> 1:17:47.320 on that model, for. 1:17:47.840 --> 1:17:51.880 Improving improved on kind of what ICP had had going. 1:17:52.280 --> 1:17:54.160 But I think this is b I think I think 1:17:54.200 --> 1:17:58.599 for whatever reason, CP their marketing and just their business 1:17:58.680 --> 1:18:00.840 model is hip hop artists. Like when I was a kid, 1:18:00.880 --> 1:18:03.320 they were the only kind of hip hop group where 1:18:03.320 --> 1:18:05.720 you could go buy their shirt and Spencers, like there 1:18:05.800 --> 1:18:07.600 was ICP Jerseys. 1:18:07.160 --> 1:18:09.600 And white Man Hot Topic, white Shit have it. 1:18:09.840 --> 1:18:12.280 But I'm saying it's like it's like they they pushed. 1:18:12.320 --> 1:18:15.040 They pushed the line to me, they pushed. 1:18:14.840 --> 1:18:16.360 The line of like if you go to a concert, 1:18:16.360 --> 1:18:18.479 we're gonna have one hundred skews that you could purchase. 1:18:19.120 --> 1:18:22.479 We're gonna have shoelaces, We're gonna have all that ship. 1:18:22.640 --> 1:18:26.600 A lot of that ship is brilliant, Like the Motherfuckers 1:18:26.680 --> 1:18:28.759 is brilliant, you know, I mean the Motherfuckers is fire. 1:18:29.560 --> 1:18:30.719 That just insane. 1:18:30.760 --> 1:18:32.640 So when did you first link with the juggle of 1:18:32.800 --> 1:18:35.080 world because you were signed a Suburban Noise, which is 1:18:35.520 --> 1:18:39.320 kind of an offshoot that world was suburban Okay, that 1:18:39.400 --> 1:18:43.120 was like cotton Mouth King's Kevin Zinger s r H. 1:18:43.439 --> 1:18:47.519 The boy that's popping now, shout out to him. They 1:18:47.600 --> 1:18:49.920 got that whole anti. To me, that ship is a 1:18:49.960 --> 1:18:53.760 dope movement where they have like uh uh Adam. 1:18:53.560 --> 1:18:56.400 Calhoun, Yeah, him and I have had words online. 1:18:56.439 --> 1:19:00.479 That's funny. Adam is another guy, Tom McDonald. And there's 1:19:00.479 --> 1:19:03.519 another guy that was from this group kind of buff 1:19:04.640 --> 1:19:06.120 but dope. I got a song with him and this 1:19:06.160 --> 1:19:09.760 pissed me off. I am yeah, but but that's he 1:19:09.920 --> 1:19:12.840 was a part of a group initially Struggle. No, it 1:19:12.960 --> 1:19:14.559 was it was Real Pr. The name of the song 1:19:14.640 --> 1:19:15.200 is called Real P. 1:19:15.400 --> 1:19:16.519 I uh. 1:19:18.479 --> 1:19:23.439 God, damn it, I'm losing my fucking mind. Yeah, but 1:19:23.520 --> 1:19:25.320 I like that movement. It's funny because I feel like 1:19:25.360 --> 1:19:29.360 they move into such a uh all set movement, you 1:19:29.400 --> 1:19:32.120 know what I mean? What the fuck is going on? 1:19:32.280 --> 1:19:36.960 Why am I not figuring this out? That's not to 1:19:37.000 --> 1:19:37.559 say much. 1:19:37.479 --> 1:19:39.439 Though, but what I need to figure out? Who you're 1:19:39.479 --> 1:19:39.920 talking about? 1:19:41.080 --> 1:19:42.200 Mad Child? Mad Child? 1:19:42.200 --> 1:19:44.080 Oh yeah, he used to be a part of that. 1:19:44.240 --> 1:19:46.280 I did this song with the group though Swollen members, 1:19:46.360 --> 1:19:46.960 Swollen members. 1:19:47.040 --> 1:19:47.200 Yeah. 1:19:47.200 --> 1:19:49.800 I did a song with Swollen members because right, which 1:19:49.840 --> 1:19:52.280 is dope right? And the song with Swallen members. And 1:19:52.439 --> 1:19:54.040 I like Mad Child, me and Mad Child. 1:19:54.080 --> 1:19:56.439 Still, I don't put mat Child in that world. 1:19:56.680 --> 1:19:59.439 I know, but so to me because he's Canadian, like 1:19:59.520 --> 1:20:01.080 you allto gonna see it differently. 1:20:01.560 --> 1:20:05.000 No, it's not that I think they had a label 1:20:05.040 --> 1:20:07.240 called battle Axe Records. I could be wrong. About but 1:20:07.320 --> 1:20:09.280 it was like they were like really like some indie 1:20:09.320 --> 1:20:11.920 backpack like hip hop vinyl, Like you went and bought 1:20:11.920 --> 1:20:12.880 their singles back? 1:20:12.960 --> 1:20:15.559 Would you dug a Tom and them? Tom and Adam. 1:20:16.000 --> 1:20:19.800 I personally, I'm not too mad at Tom. I've seen 1:20:19.880 --> 1:20:22.400 some of his I've seen. I was actually kind of 1:20:22.400 --> 1:20:24.800 interested in his business model because I saw a video 1:20:24.920 --> 1:20:28.519 come out. I'm like a music industry nerd. So I 1:20:28.680 --> 1:20:32.960 saw a video come out or some sort of something 1:20:33.040 --> 1:20:35.160 came across my timeline that he had sold a certain 1:20:35.160 --> 1:20:38.800 amount of units, but because he sold them the way 1:20:38.880 --> 1:20:41.800 he did that they didn't count it towards his billboard sales, 1:20:42.400 --> 1:20:46.000 and that had they counted his billboard sales properly, he 1:20:46.080 --> 1:20:47.760 would have probably had like the number one album in 1:20:47.800 --> 1:20:50.400 the country or something. Right, So I watched a YouTube 1:20:50.479 --> 1:20:54.479 video that he put up explaining and showing how much 1:20:54.920 --> 1:21:00.200 he actually sold. And my homie Dax did a song 1:21:00.280 --> 1:21:03.200 with him and Dax Records here, that's my friend. That's 1:21:03.360 --> 1:21:06.400 the brother, that's like the brother that's super active. Yeah, 1:21:06.439 --> 1:21:09.920 he's not like some country songs he's got. Yeah, yeah, 1:21:09.920 --> 1:21:14.240 I saw, so I know they've worked together. That the 1:21:15.080 --> 1:21:20.760 Tom McDonald w this Canadian, Dax is Canadian. The other 1:21:20.840 --> 1:21:22.720 guy out of him Adam Calhoun. This is the thing 1:21:22.720 --> 1:21:24.400 that's weirded about Adam Calhoun. Me and him have had 1:21:24.439 --> 1:21:26.599 our words, and I've said that his music is horrible. 1:21:27.160 --> 1:21:31.959 I don't really think like this is my thing. Anybody 1:21:32.120 --> 1:21:35.519 who and and you can this dude like made a 1:21:35.600 --> 1:21:37.800 record saying the N word over and over for shock value. 1:21:37.920 --> 1:21:39.960 Sure you saw the video, Yeah, it's the one were 1:21:39.960 --> 1:21:41.760 talking about trying to trash how our experience can be. 1:21:42.040 --> 1:21:44.479 And I get to I get it, But I was 1:21:44.560 --> 1:21:46.519 just like, bro, like this he might have gas the 1:21:46.720 --> 1:21:47.640 nigga you feel right? 1:21:47.760 --> 1:21:51.320 And I just feel like somehow and I could be 1:21:52.439 --> 1:21:57.280 categorizing what he does unfairly. I could be, But I 1:21:57.439 --> 1:22:06.080 think the leaning into the maga world for Clout is 1:22:06.320 --> 1:22:09.080 very like so you don't genuinely believe he believes in 1:22:09.120 --> 1:22:12.400 the shit. 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And I told 1:25:04.920 --> 1:25:06.840 Jelly the last time I saw him, I said, Hey, 1:25:07.240 --> 1:25:09.960 I know you're tight with that dude Adam Calhoun, and 1:25:10.080 --> 1:25:11.840 I don't want to have like any real beef with 1:25:11.920 --> 1:25:14.479 somebody that you're friends with. So I was like, if 1:25:14.479 --> 1:25:15.640 you ever want to put me on the phone with 1:25:15.720 --> 1:25:17.920 him like I wouldn't mind, just because we went back 1:25:17.960 --> 1:25:20.000 and forth on in our YouTube comments. And I mean, 1:25:20.040 --> 1:25:23.719 I don't think his music's very good, but I can't 1:25:23.760 --> 1:25:28.840 equate what he does because he's got whole albums with 1:25:28.960 --> 1:25:31.720 my Boy Struggle and Struggles my boy, like I love 1:25:31.760 --> 1:25:34.559 Struggles Struggles a talented guy. So I really I think 1:25:34.600 --> 1:25:37.760 I may have unfairly equated what he's doing with what 1:25:37.920 --> 1:25:40.320 some of these real maga rappers are doing, because there's 1:25:40.400 --> 1:25:41.240 like real. 1:25:41.320 --> 1:25:43.000 Sure gods, so you can see they taking advantage. 1:25:43.000 --> 1:25:46.200 No, they're literally their entire identity is they do maga rap. 1:25:46.360 --> 1:25:49.680 It's like a shove, a subgenre of music that is 1:25:50.280 --> 1:25:56.280 strictly based on fuck, black Lives matter, Trump, Trump, Trump, 1:25:56.320 --> 1:25:58.160 what's the what's the jerk offs name from Florida? That 1:25:58.360 --> 1:26:02.920 uh no, no no, the for Giotto Blow who used 1:26:02.960 --> 1:26:05.360 to be signing used to be signed to Thomas Jones 1:26:05.760 --> 1:26:08.599 and was a fucking wanna be street rapper in Tampa 1:26:08.680 --> 1:26:11.040 when I lived there, And now all of a sudden 1:26:11.400 --> 1:26:13.800 he is literally the face of maga rat. To me, 1:26:14.000 --> 1:26:17.760 that ship's corny, super corny. And then there's like, so 1:26:17.840 --> 1:26:21.559 I think I might have unfairly put those two guys 1:26:22.280 --> 1:26:24.920 in the same lane. As to where I don't think 1:26:25.000 --> 1:26:29.639 Adam Calhoun's music, I think I might have unfairly judged it. Also, 1:26:29.720 --> 1:26:34.800 he was beefing with my boy CASKI, so I might 1:26:34.840 --> 1:26:37.960 have unfairly judged him. I'm not a fan of his music. 1:26:38.000 --> 1:26:40.960 I'm not a fan of like and this is. And 1:26:41.040 --> 1:26:43.640 Also I'd like to point out it'd be like if 1:26:43.680 --> 1:26:46.320 there was somebody waving a Biden flag in their rap songs, 1:26:47.160 --> 1:26:52.000 You'd be like, what's happening, Like, Who's Who's making pro 1:26:52.160 --> 1:26:54.639 bi Who's making pro Biden rap music? Can I ask 1:26:54.680 --> 1:26:55.160 you that question? 1:26:55.360 --> 1:26:58.000 Every last pop artist breathing no, no, no, I'm. 1:26:57.920 --> 1:27:01.240 Talking about by name. We're talking. I mean, listen, I 1:27:01.320 --> 1:27:03.600 can pull up. There are some of these songs and 1:27:03.840 --> 1:27:07.280 the hook is is like Trump Trump Trump, Maga Maga Magic. 1:27:07.439 --> 1:27:10.800 But that's because it's counter culture. It's counter culture. So 1:27:11.080 --> 1:27:14.320 it was very much counter anything counter even when hip 1:27:14.360 --> 1:27:17.799 hop would use Trump's name as a way to establish 1:27:17.880 --> 1:27:19.880 the conversation of wealth right. 1:27:20.360 --> 1:27:22.040 No, for sure, Trump was take over the world on 1:27:22.240 --> 1:27:22.760 Donald Trump. 1:27:22.960 --> 1:27:26.200 That's Trump was always counterculture. I'm Donald Trump and the 1:27:26.200 --> 1:27:27.800 white T and white Woman's the conversations. 1:27:28.200 --> 1:27:31.000 I mean, Donald Trump is on method Man's second solo album, 1:27:31.520 --> 1:27:32.080 to Count. 1:27:32.000 --> 1:27:35.479 Because so again, Trump has always been counterculture, just where 1:27:35.520 --> 1:27:35.960 you place it. 1:27:36.080 --> 1:27:38.360 So my whole thing is this, if I would look 1:27:38.400 --> 1:27:43.120 at a rapper the same way, if they did an 1:27:43.200 --> 1:27:50.080 aoc acost of Cortes, the Congress lady from from New York, 1:27:50.240 --> 1:27:54.519 if someone did a song that was like waving her 1:27:54.560 --> 1:27:55.200 flat about. 1:27:55.200 --> 1:27:58.000 If somebody did a baroxa like my president is black. 1:27:58.000 --> 1:28:00.519 That's hard because that's history. It's the first by president. 1:28:00.560 --> 1:28:01.320 What are we talking about? 1:28:01.880 --> 1:28:06.280 By the way, great song, shout out to Jesus, that's 1:28:06.360 --> 1:28:11.360 my favorite g Z album. The Recession, great album. It's classic, 1:28:11.520 --> 1:28:12.439 great app But. 1:28:12.920 --> 1:28:15.519 But I guess what I'm saying is like a classics 1:28:15.680 --> 1:28:16.080 the classic. 1:28:16.320 --> 1:28:20.840 Yes, to me, it's a classic. To me, I don't 1:28:20.840 --> 1:28:22.320 think it's I don't think it's it's higher on the 1:28:22.360 --> 1:28:25.720 classic tier than than than Doug Motivation one on one, 1:28:26.040 --> 1:28:28.640 it's not a classic. I like The Recession me too. 1:28:29.200 --> 1:28:31.240 I don't think it's more of a classic than it's 1:28:31.240 --> 1:28:33.679 not a classic. To be fair, it's not a consensus classic. 1:28:33.760 --> 1:28:35.000 It's a classic to me. I think we can all 1:28:35.000 --> 1:28:37.160 have personal Well, you just like it no, but I 1:28:37.240 --> 1:28:40.800 think to me, it's a classic to me. But I 1:28:40.840 --> 1:28:44.439 would say I break down classics from different perspectives. One 1:28:44.479 --> 1:28:49.439 would be what I call consensus hip hop classics, where 1:28:49.439 --> 1:28:51.080 if you said that album is a classic, nobod's gonna 1:28:51.080 --> 1:28:51.439 say shit. 1:28:51.400 --> 1:28:54.120 You nobody will say that about graduation, you don't have 1:28:54.200 --> 1:28:56.400 some conversations and hip hop. 1:28:56.360 --> 1:29:01.000 Okay, So that's that's that's that's me. When I think 1:29:01.040 --> 1:29:02.840 of Drake, he don't have a good kid. Mad City 1:29:03.360 --> 1:29:04.599 the closest thing he's got to take care. 1:29:04.720 --> 1:29:06.880 You know what's funny, I just had that conversation somebody 1:29:06.920 --> 1:29:08.479 said that I think. I was like, probably not, but 1:29:08.760 --> 1:29:09.040 I'm not. 1:29:09.680 --> 1:29:12.320 I think Drake's best album is Nothing Was the Same, 1:29:12.400 --> 1:29:15.440 And I actually think that album is damn near flawless. 1:29:15.600 --> 1:29:18.400 And I think we don't give that album enough flowers 1:29:19.120 --> 1:29:21.599 because Nothing Was the same as I think. 1:29:21.560 --> 1:29:24.479 Drake is fantastic and making music. Man. So I think 1:29:24.640 --> 1:29:27.000 I think Drake, but I just don't know if he's 1:29:27.040 --> 1:29:28.240 ever adjusted culture. 1:29:30.640 --> 1:29:32.800 Yeah, I mean, I get you. I think unfortunately, I 1:29:32.840 --> 1:29:34.559 think the last like five years, I feel like he's 1:29:34.560 --> 1:29:37.920 been just mailing it in even then because I actually enjoyed, 1:29:37.920 --> 1:29:39.439 you know, what I enjoyed about Drake was when he 1:29:39.479 --> 1:29:40.360 did the DM album. 1:29:40.760 --> 1:29:43.080 I think Drake always got some cuts, so it's hard. 1:29:42.960 --> 1:29:46.280 To really always got to I say, I can't. I 1:29:46.360 --> 1:29:47.600 never listened to Madonna's I don't know that. 1:29:47.720 --> 1:29:49.800 You gotta go fuck with Madonna, bro, and it's hard. 1:29:49.880 --> 1:29:52.000 It's not for me, I'm telling you, and they get madly. 1:29:52.080 --> 1:29:55.280 I don't think eighties music is good. Eighties pop music 1:29:55.400 --> 1:29:58.439 is terrible. I'm not it all aged horribly. 1:29:58.920 --> 1:30:01.040 It sounds like shit. It's corny as fuck. 1:30:01.439 --> 1:30:04.479 Keep all you just can't wait to Doom Doom, Doom, 1:30:04.600 --> 1:30:05.120 Doom Doom. 1:30:05.680 --> 1:30:09.600 I like eighties metal. Hey, give me eighties metal, Metallica, 1:30:10.160 --> 1:30:14.240 that's not bad. Give me fucking you know, the eighties. 1:30:14.479 --> 1:30:16.800 I mean Van Halen's not metal. It's like pop rock. 1:30:16.920 --> 1:30:20.240 That's like Drake of rock. I would say, like Judas 1:30:20.479 --> 1:30:24.880 metal would have got big guitars. Yeah, Mega Death, Pantera's 1:30:25.160 --> 1:30:25.960 some ship in the eighties. 1:30:26.200 --> 1:30:28.000 So so so at that point, Guns and Roses the 1:30:28.080 --> 1:30:28.639 king of metal. 1:30:29.120 --> 1:30:31.439 Well, guns and Roses was pop rock, and that was 1:30:31.479 --> 1:30:33.920 the early nineties. But yeah, I mean Guns and Roses 1:30:34.040 --> 1:30:35.920 were the biggest shit on the planet for you know, 1:30:36.160 --> 1:30:36.639 four years. 1:30:36.680 --> 1:30:39.160 So Metallica is metal, so you need the over abusive 1:30:39.200 --> 1:30:40.120 guitars to be metal. 1:30:40.240 --> 1:30:43.000 No, I mean Metallica is like eight minute songs with 1:30:43.160 --> 1:30:46.479 two minute guitar solos in it, you know, like if 1:30:46.479 --> 1:30:49.280 you listen to Master of Puppets, so that it's over abusive. 1:30:49.600 --> 1:30:53.480 And what's crazy is even like metal. People think Metallica's 1:30:53.880 --> 1:30:56.120 like sell out metal because they sold out with the 1:30:56.160 --> 1:30:58.040 Black album, their bigges album. They had a ballot on there. 1:30:58.120 --> 1:31:00.080 Oh yeah, but that ballad is t like to if 1:31:00.080 --> 1:31:01.120 you listen like for who. 1:31:01.040 --> 1:31:04.200 The Bell Tolls or like one Ship like that. It's 1:31:04.280 --> 1:31:05.599 just big heavy. 1:31:06.040 --> 1:31:08.519 It's funny because we have the same conversations per genre. 1:31:08.600 --> 1:31:09.960 And that's what I've been trying to say to you. 1:31:11.040 --> 1:31:12.800 No, I mean, I think it's all rock and roll, 1:31:13.000 --> 1:31:15.479 but I think there's metal, which is like rap. 1:31:15.600 --> 1:31:20.679 So there's all rap. But everything in hip hop everything 1:31:20.800 --> 1:31:22.439 is raped. A lot of shit is rap, but everything 1:31:22.520 --> 1:31:26.599 in hip hop hip hop is like metal. See, rock 1:31:26.640 --> 1:31:29.639 and roll is just rap. Anybody could rap, anybody could 1:31:29.640 --> 1:31:31.400 put out a rap album, but hip hop is a 1:31:31.439 --> 1:31:34.920 special representation of culture where you bear the burden of 1:31:34.960 --> 1:31:36.680 it all and you carry it on your shoulders and 1:31:37.240 --> 1:31:40.960 you know you you you're judge based off of what's happening, right, 1:31:41.120 --> 1:31:43.320 I mean that can determine if you sell another record, 1:31:43.840 --> 1:31:47.800 not for sure that and that's not what yady you 1:31:47.880 --> 1:31:49.680 know shout out to Yati no District. I don't know 1:31:49.800 --> 1:31:51.720 his history, but I'm saying he doesn't. He's not He's 1:31:51.760 --> 1:31:54.160 not responsible for that. Yachty can do anything. And it's 1:31:54.200 --> 1:31:56.960 not because kids can do anything. Because Zoel Sama is 1:31:56.960 --> 1:31:59.040 a kid. He can't just do anything. If do something, 1:32:00.200 --> 1:32:03.200 it's some trouble. If some of these young hip hop 1:32:03.320 --> 1:32:05.600 orners do some silly shit, their career is going to 1:32:05.640 --> 1:32:06.040 take a hit. 1:32:06.400 --> 1:32:08.679 Right. I think that's definitely like true when it comes 1:32:08.720 --> 1:32:11.920 to like if your if your music and your persona. 1:32:11.600 --> 1:32:15.439 Is hip hop is street, but hip hop is only street, 1:32:15.680 --> 1:32:17.080 there's nothing else outside of it. 1:32:17.160 --> 1:32:19.679 I think that's true. It is you just say it evolved. 1:32:19.840 --> 1:32:21.040 Can't you agree things evolve? 1:32:21.320 --> 1:32:24.720 Then metal can evolve. Yeah, so medical be ballots. 1:32:25.800 --> 1:32:29.879 Yes, which I'm telling you with like I'm a hardcore 1:32:30.479 --> 1:32:35.640 hip hop nigga. Okay, hardcore damn, You're not going to 1:32:35.760 --> 1:32:38.320 sell it out. So you're trying to say because to me, 1:32:38.439 --> 1:32:39.240 it all can evolve. 1:32:39.640 --> 1:32:42.280 No, it can't evolve because hip hop can never be 1:32:42.320 --> 1:32:43.639 somewhere where culture doesn't exist. 1:32:43.720 --> 1:32:45.920 So let me ask you this in general, right, if 1:32:46.040 --> 1:32:48.840 hip hop can't evolve, it's you. 1:32:48.920 --> 1:32:53.000 No culture evolves. But hip hop, right is always going 1:32:53.080 --> 1:32:55.560 to be street urban culture. It can't evolve into the 1:32:55.640 --> 1:32:58.400 suburbs because suburbs will never have culture. They'll never have 1:32:59.240 --> 1:33:05.840 the they don't have the things. Cocaine plants, coca plants, right, 1:33:06.320 --> 1:33:08.800 we can grow them here, right, Me and you could 1:33:08.800 --> 1:33:10.800 get a warehouse really and we could grow them yep, 1:33:10.800 --> 1:33:12.719 inside of the warehouse with all the lights and water 1:33:12.880 --> 1:33:15.920 system and all that. Right, but how no, illegally, but 1:33:16.000 --> 1:33:19.000 we would never have enough cocaine, would never have enough plants, 1:33:19.080 --> 1:33:21.920 dried up leaves. I think it's like one hundred and 1:33:22.000 --> 1:33:24.759 ten thousand pounds of dried up leaves or some crazy 1:33:24.840 --> 1:33:28.360 shit you need. We would never create enough leaves to 1:33:28.479 --> 1:33:33.719 make one fucking kilo because coca plants don't grow wild everywhere. 1:33:34.040 --> 1:33:38.200 They don't have the environment, the right sun, the right 1:33:38.280 --> 1:33:41.040 conditions to grow. That's hip hop. Hip Hop can only 1:33:41.200 --> 1:33:44.320 grow there. There's no middle class place where your culture 1:33:44.400 --> 1:33:46.680 is created. They don't need lingo. You know why they 1:33:46.720 --> 1:33:49.720 don't need slang because the fucking school programs are good. 1:33:50.200 --> 1:33:52.280 I see. I don't think that's true though, because that 1:33:52.520 --> 1:33:56.000 is there is culture created through in middle. 1:33:55.720 --> 1:34:01.240 Class where what fashion where Listen, they have addition, which 1:34:01.320 --> 1:34:04.400 is which is culture. No, No tradition can be an 1:34:04.760 --> 1:34:05.559 aspect of culture. 1:34:05.600 --> 1:34:09.920 Is it safe to say that, like the automobile industry 1:34:10.840 --> 1:34:13.320 was in the in the Midwest, was a middle class 1:34:13.360 --> 1:34:15.960 industry up until it fell. 1:34:16.360 --> 1:34:19.240 Sure, but having a job there for poor people was 1:34:19.360 --> 1:34:19.920 the culture? 1:34:20.479 --> 1:34:22.120 Right? No, but those were middle class people. 1:34:22.320 --> 1:34:24.400 No, No, they were middle class people at that time, 1:34:24.439 --> 1:34:26.880 at that time, right, But I agree, But that's what 1:34:26.960 --> 1:34:29.200 I'm saying. Hip hop was birthed after they shut the 1:34:29.320 --> 1:34:33.000 factories down, after there was no opportunity, after people was 1:34:33.080 --> 1:34:34.120 deprived of things. 1:34:34.360 --> 1:34:36.080 I mean, it was also birthed in the Bronx, So 1:34:36.320 --> 1:34:37.479 it's definitely the same thing. 1:34:37.520 --> 1:34:39.599 That's diffinitely worse than that might be just the same 1:34:39.680 --> 1:34:43.439 as Detroit. Right, So, all I'm saying to you is 1:34:43.960 --> 1:34:46.360 middle class people can enjoy the music, But to say 1:34:46.439 --> 1:34:48.720 that they they had there's a culture there, it's just not. 1:34:48.840 --> 1:34:50.080 And I've been to a lot of suburbs. 1:34:50.120 --> 1:34:51.760 Hey, somehow we broke away from you telling me how 1:34:51.760 --> 1:34:52.799 you first leave for Juggalos. 1:34:53.360 --> 1:34:57.920 Oh, Tech nine, Techno Tech nine went on toward Tech nine. Uh, 1:34:58.160 --> 1:35:00.240 Tech loved me, Travis love Me. I want to three 1:35:00.280 --> 1:35:03.880 times three years straight. Which tours was this, because the 1:35:03.960 --> 1:35:06.080 first tour with tech it was just me and Tech 1:35:06.240 --> 1:35:10.639 and Chris and cut. Then the next tour was ME forty. 1:35:11.800 --> 1:35:14.680 That's the tour I saw you on ME forty. Uh, 1:35:15.400 --> 1:35:18.000 you're talking about Joe Buddens. You guys did House Oh Slaughterhouse, 1:35:18.280 --> 1:35:22.240 Slaughterhouse that was at the and K Dot, j Rock, Kendrick. 1:35:21.960 --> 1:35:23.920 And j Rock. That was on the you guys did 1:35:24.000 --> 1:35:26.240 House of Blues in Vegas Independent Grind tour. 1:35:26.479 --> 1:35:29.040 Yeah, I was there, it was it was Kendrick, j Rock, 1:35:30.120 --> 1:35:31.519 ME forty. 1:35:31.680 --> 1:35:33.200 That was when Jay Rock could put out the album 1:35:33.200 --> 1:35:39.360 on Strange YEP, forty YEP, Slaughterhouse in Tech Yeah, that 1:35:39.439 --> 1:35:40.160 was a crazy tour. 1:35:40.280 --> 1:35:42.920 That was fantastic when I think about it, like wow, Yeah, And. 1:35:43.120 --> 1:35:44.800 That's why I was telling violent Jay and he went 1:35:44.840 --> 1:35:47.360 on this tangent about him and Tech nine almost went 1:35:47.400 --> 1:35:48.320 to war, and I was like, that's not what I 1:35:48.400 --> 1:35:50.240 was asking. I was trying to get to the point 1:35:50.240 --> 1:35:52.160 of you guys like revolutionizing the merch game. And then 1:35:52.240 --> 1:35:55.280 he was like, yeah, but they didn't. But I was like, 1:35:55.360 --> 1:35:57.800 you guys share so many of the same fans that 1:35:57.960 --> 1:36:01.720 it's like that what doesn't makes sense Because if you 1:36:01.800 --> 1:36:04.320 go to a tech show, you're gonna see a guy 1:36:04.400 --> 1:36:07.519 with a slaughterhouse or a slaughter a Hatchman tattoo, and 1:36:07.560 --> 1:36:09.360 you're gonna see a guy with a strange music tattoo 1:36:09.400 --> 1:36:10.439 on the same you. 1:36:10.439 --> 1:36:13.320 Know, I like a technician and a fucking a lot 1:36:13.400 --> 1:36:14.519 of a lot of these. 1:36:14.400 --> 1:36:15.720 People are the same, you know what I mean. 1:36:15.720 --> 1:36:17.959 I always thought they fan base should be called the Strangers. 1:36:18.800 --> 1:36:21.519 I see what you did there. I like technicians me too, 1:36:21.920 --> 1:36:24.240 shout to the strange. So yeah, you got you got 1:36:24.280 --> 1:36:25.320 exposed to that world. 1:36:26.160 --> 1:36:28.400 Yeah, it was amazing. It was amazing. To say, dog, 1:36:28.479 --> 1:36:30.360 that fucked my life up, I mean, and I think 1:36:30.400 --> 1:36:32.840 it helped even Kendrick. I think that was a big 1:36:32.920 --> 1:36:35.960 influence on what Kendrick did because that was this was 1:36:36.040 --> 1:36:38.839 two thy eleven ten, nine eleven. 1:36:38.960 --> 1:36:41.120 Yep, I think that tour was eleven, But. 1:36:41.200 --> 1:36:42.960 I think I remember he used to watch him on 1:36:43.080 --> 1:36:44.639 stage like every night. 1:36:44.760 --> 1:36:47.519 Yeah, because you gotta see you gotta know technic, like 1:36:47.640 --> 1:36:52.200 Peak Tech with him, Cut Calhoun and Chris Kalico together, Tech. 1:36:52.120 --> 1:36:55.040 Is probably the best hip hop performer. It's probably Tech nine. 1:36:55.200 --> 1:36:58.160 Buster Busters up there, Red and Method is up There's 1:36:58.160 --> 1:36:59.800 somebody else up there that I'm not thinking about, that 1:37:00.040 --> 1:37:02.960 super dupe up on stage. But them guys is really special. 1:37:03.160 --> 1:37:05.080 The Tech nine is the go to me. Tech is 1:37:05.120 --> 1:37:06.920 hard to fuck with, I think, so you don't have 1:37:06.960 --> 1:37:08.760 to know one of tech songs, And that to me 1:37:08.920 --> 1:37:12.400 is the key, is that I became a fan of 1:37:12.479 --> 1:37:15.439 Tech nine not knowing any of his songs. Besides like 1:37:15.600 --> 1:37:18.360 Slacker and I'm a player, I'm a player, sure, And 1:37:18.439 --> 1:37:18.680 when I. 1:37:18.720 --> 1:37:21.800 Saw him live, I was like, it's funny because you 1:37:21.800 --> 1:37:25.760 just songs. You to me, that is that's different. And 1:37:25.880 --> 1:37:29.600 to me text doing two hours straight. 1:37:31.120 --> 1:37:34.880 No track behind him wrapping a million miles a minute 1:37:35.560 --> 1:37:41.400 and dancing, dancing choreography, and I'm talking like Peak Tech tour, 1:37:42.280 --> 1:37:45.719 Tech is a monster And even like recently I said 1:37:45.760 --> 1:37:49.519 this to him. He did a tour on the show 1:37:49.880 --> 1:37:52.519 many times, not on my podcast yet, but I mean 1:37:52.560 --> 1:37:58.080 I've interviewed Tech probably ten times. He had a tour 1:37:58.200 --> 1:38:04.160 in twenty sixteen or seventeen sixteen, maybe said early seventeen 1:38:04.680 --> 1:38:06.840 and it was this was when Chris Calico and him 1:38:07.280 --> 1:38:10.120 or Chris left strange. There's no cut Calhoun. So it 1:38:10.200 --> 1:38:12.600 was just him and to me, a part of like 1:38:12.720 --> 1:38:14.760 TeX's live show that was super dope was him and 1:38:14.840 --> 1:38:18.200 Chris's energy back and forth. But I saw him by 1:38:18.280 --> 1:38:22.120 himself and he had he had like it was like 1:38:22.320 --> 1:38:27.280 the gangster, the the clown and the king and he 1:38:28.320 --> 1:38:31.240 somehow bro it was the craziest texture I've ever been to. 1:38:31.280 --> 1:38:33.000 And it was just him and the way he like 1:38:33.120 --> 1:38:36.519 changed his outfitches that work byself. Bro that No, he's 1:38:36.560 --> 1:38:38.639 a professional, like when he does this shit he does 1:38:38.800 --> 1:38:41.799 this strange business model is carried on show business. 1:38:42.240 --> 1:38:45.840 Well, strange business model is one that more hip hop 1:38:47.160 --> 1:38:51.160 labels should adopt. What's hard because you need to take 1:38:51.280 --> 1:38:55.679 nine and it's hard because of strict Well, the strict 1:38:55.720 --> 1:38:58.360 part can work, but the tech nine part is the 1:38:58.400 --> 1:38:58.960 hard part. 1:38:58.800 --> 1:39:00.120 Because like when you were on tour with them, you 1:39:00.160 --> 1:39:01.799 guys had rules, right if you If you didn't. 1:39:01.760 --> 1:39:03.599 No rules, it's just your as gonna miss the bus. 1:39:03.680 --> 1:39:04.559 Oh no, there's rules. 1:39:05.120 --> 1:39:06.600 I mean I wasn't no rules to me? Then what 1:39:06.720 --> 1:39:07.200 was the rules? 1:39:07.520 --> 1:39:10.760 There's uh that well they now they have rules like 1:39:10.880 --> 1:39:12.479 if you agree to go on the tour, you have 1:39:12.560 --> 1:39:15.080 to abide by the rules or they find you. Yeah, 1:39:15.080 --> 1:39:18.639 I didn't have that, but that was based on what's 1:39:18.680 --> 1:39:22.200 the rules. Uh no, nobody on the bus. That isn't 1:39:22.760 --> 1:39:25.519 like no girls on the bus. No, uh yeah, that 1:39:25.720 --> 1:39:27.479 was nothing like that, no smoking on the bus. But 1:39:27.600 --> 1:39:31.240 that was because something had happened to cause there's an 1:39:31.320 --> 1:39:36.280 incident or an issue that happened that made those rules. 1:39:36.560 --> 1:39:39.160 Each one of those rules get like so now when 1:39:39.200 --> 1:39:42.080 you go on tour with tech, you gotta sign off 1:39:42.120 --> 1:39:44.160 on Hey, I'm gonna follow these rules. Like Dizzy right, 1:39:44.320 --> 1:39:46.600 was so frustrated he couldn't smoke on the bus so 1:39:46.720 --> 1:39:48.639 he would just pay the fine. Fuck. 1:39:49.400 --> 1:39:51.360 Yeah nah, I didn't have They didn't have some hab. 1:39:51.760 --> 1:39:54.040 Something definitely happened there, but they they before the rules. 1:39:54.160 --> 1:39:55.760 It might have been a machine gun Kelly Tour that 1:39:55.920 --> 1:39:57.960 caused them in and put those rules in. 1:39:58.240 --> 1:40:00.639 Before the rules, it was just I don't smoke anyways, 1:40:00.640 --> 1:40:03.280 they weren't for me. But before the rules, it was 1:40:03.439 --> 1:40:06.000 just it is very strict, but not strict in rules 1:40:06.320 --> 1:40:09.599 time like you really do like oh yeah, the bus 1:40:09.720 --> 1:40:12.600 will these shows in sixty four days. Yeah, you the 1:40:12.680 --> 1:40:14.400 bus will leave. You don't have a choice. 1:40:14.680 --> 1:40:16.120 It has no choice to show much going. 1:40:16.600 --> 1:40:17.880 You just fly to the next town. 1:40:18.160 --> 1:40:19.320 Did you ever miss the bus? Never? 1:40:19.439 --> 1:40:22.320 In life, I wouldn't. The rules wouldn't matter to me. 1:40:22.400 --> 1:40:23.960 I don't smoke a drink. I mean, I don't even 1:40:23.960 --> 1:40:25.200 even care about bringing girls. 1:40:25.000 --> 1:40:27.880 On the bus. I wonder what that tour is like. 1:40:28.000 --> 1:40:30.519 If og Muggs has to be security for E forty 1:40:30.600 --> 1:40:31.280 and Tach done. 1:40:31.720 --> 1:40:34.920 That was kind of cool. I remember that people don't 1:40:35.120 --> 1:40:36.280 keep running back out on the stage. 1:40:36.320 --> 1:40:39.120 Og Muggs is kind of like he's tech security to 1:40:39.200 --> 1:40:41.479 keep running back. Also kind of forty security. He had 1:40:41.479 --> 1:40:43.920 to keep running back on the stage and run shout 1:40:43.960 --> 1:40:46.040 out to mud. He had to double up. Yeah, that's 1:40:46.040 --> 1:40:47.360 probably the roughest tour his his. 1:40:47.600 --> 1:40:51.080 Uh, he was complaining, complaining, He was complaining anyway. 1:40:51.080 --> 1:40:53.400 So the new album is out, cancel these nuts. 1:40:53.560 --> 1:40:57.880 Yeah it's really good man. They telling me it's classic. Now, 1:40:58.000 --> 1:40:59.519 y'all have fucked it up for me because I felt 1:40:59.560 --> 1:41:02.360 specially at first, I've been hearing scar Face and me 1:41:02.439 --> 1:41:04.760 fire moojis about it, and niggas been hitting me tell 1:41:04.760 --> 1:41:06.639 about how good it is, and people like this classic. 1:41:06.760 --> 1:41:10.519 Then I tweet nobody before class and I realize the 1:41:10.640 --> 1:41:13.040 classify every album as a class I'm like, y'all just. 1:41:13.040 --> 1:41:14.920 Fucked it up for me. I thought I had something special, 1:41:15.439 --> 1:41:18.840 not every album, just four of more than four. I Kanye. 1:41:18.960 --> 1:41:20.679 A dude told me Kanye had eight classics. 1:41:22.080 --> 1:41:26.000 Okay, Kanye's first five albums are a classic, so see, 1:41:26.120 --> 1:41:26.880 and just ruined it. 1:41:29.680 --> 1:41:30.639 Time changing. 1:41:31.040 --> 1:41:33.559 He dropped five first six albums are classics. 1:41:33.640 --> 1:41:35.599 He dropped six Doggie styles in a row. He dropped 1:41:35.640 --> 1:41:36.840 six ematics in a row. 1:41:37.280 --> 1:41:39.760 Yeah, I think Kanye's first six albums he. 1:41:39.840 --> 1:41:45.400 Dropped six ematics. He dropped, he dropped, he dropped, fucking. 1:41:46.040 --> 1:41:51.200 Yes, college, college drop out, late registration, graduation. My Beautiful 1:41:51.280 --> 1:41:53.960 Dark Twisted Fantasy, A Ways and Heartbreaks was before My 1:41:53.960 --> 1:42:00.360 Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. Jesus, those are six classics. Yees, 1:42:00.400 --> 1:42:02.760 this is a perfect album. Dropped six omatics in a row, 1:42:02.920 --> 1:42:12.559 and and outside of that, those are the those are 1:42:12.600 --> 1:42:15.640 the six I have to give it to now. I 1:42:16.040 --> 1:42:18.599 also happen to feel that if you were to put 1:42:18.680 --> 1:42:23.280 the Good Friday songs together on a zip file in 1:42:23.400 --> 1:42:27.640 the blog era, that's a whole other classic album. I 1:42:27.760 --> 1:42:29.200 also happened to feel that, uh. 1:42:29.280 --> 1:42:30.880 It's just the standards has been lowered. 1:42:31.400 --> 1:42:35.720 Kids see Ghosts is one of Kanye's greatest bodies of 1:42:35.760 --> 1:42:36.920 work ever for him and Kid. 1:42:36.800 --> 1:42:40.080 Cutting as well. Say as a classic, he just make 1:42:40.200 --> 1:42:41.120 anything in classic. 1:42:41.200 --> 1:42:41.720 You said it not? 1:42:41.720 --> 1:42:43.920 I mean he dropped six ill maatics in the row. 1:42:44.080 --> 1:42:46.520 Fucking Kanye, that's crazy. Six illmatics. 1:42:46.760 --> 1:42:48.760 He dropped six well, I mean he definitely, yeah, he's 1:42:48.880 --> 1:42:50.400 I mean six in a row. Yeah, six ill But 1:42:50.400 --> 1:42:52.200 that's why he's got the greatest hip hop discography of 1:42:52.240 --> 1:42:52.639 all time. 1:42:53.040 --> 1:42:55.439 Six ellmatics in a row. I mean he had, he 1:42:55.520 --> 1:42:57.559 had that the first three records. I mean, I'll cast 1:42:57.640 --> 1:42:58.240 it four straight. 1:42:59.000 --> 1:43:01.880 You know, Oreo Maddix in a row, Southern playerlist of 1:43:01.920 --> 1:43:06.639 Caatellacts and Cemini four four get rich of DoD Trons 1:43:06.680 --> 1:43:11.160 in the row. That's just how crazy? Wait wait wait, yeah, 1:43:11.200 --> 1:43:12.840 I'll cast has five classics. 1:43:12.479 --> 1:43:14.559 And he got five classes in the row. Five get 1:43:14.680 --> 1:43:15.840 rich of DoD Tron's in a row. 1:43:15.960 --> 1:43:18.040 Yeah, I cast got five of them. That's just crazy. 1:43:18.240 --> 1:43:20.840 I can't argue because at this point it's like I 1:43:20.920 --> 1:43:22.840 ain't never heard. I didn't even know hip hop had 1:43:22.920 --> 1:43:26.400 DMX has one. Somebody told me the DMS had four. 1:43:26.800 --> 1:43:27.320 That's crazy. 1:43:27.760 --> 1:43:30.920 It's not all this ship is crazy, y'all. Y'all would 1:43:30.920 --> 1:43:31.280 make it like. 1:43:31.320 --> 1:43:35.360 If you DMX has DMX has one. This dude told 1:43:35.360 --> 1:43:37.240 me and a half. He told me best of both 1:43:37.280 --> 1:43:41.400 worlds is classic class Someone told I think you should 1:43:41.439 --> 1:43:41.920 have blocked him. 1:43:42.520 --> 1:43:45.800 I'm not on blocking nobody. What I never blocked people. 1:43:45.920 --> 1:43:53.439 Hove has got two undeniable classics, and then the Black album, 1:43:53.800 --> 1:43:54.719 which is up for debate. 1:43:55.600 --> 1:43:57.519 This dude said, all of these classes. He showed me 1:43:57.560 --> 1:43:59.880 all the album, all the Kanye Me like, all the 1:44:00.040 --> 1:44:00.839 people have classics. 1:44:00.880 --> 1:44:03.720 No, I'll say this. Jay Z's got two undeniables, and 1:44:03.920 --> 1:44:07.080 then the Black album, which to me is a classic. 1:44:07.880 --> 1:44:11.280 I think Drake has He said, if we talk about songs, 1:44:11.360 --> 1:44:12.960 hold got one hundred classic songs. 1:44:13.040 --> 1:44:15.200 Even Chief keep got him. You just chatting, okay, I 1:44:15.200 --> 1:44:18.120 don't know. This is your people. Here's a white man 1:44:18.640 --> 1:44:19.000 he talked. 1:44:19.000 --> 1:44:21.960 And then another dude said, I'm so tired of interaction farming. 1:44:22.360 --> 1:44:24.280 This is the most obvious bait I've seen all day. 1:44:24.280 --> 1:44:26.640 And retards on Twitter eat it up. No one in 1:44:26.720 --> 1:44:28.280 hip hop classics. 1:44:28.320 --> 1:44:30.360 Your tweet was no one in hip hop has four classics. 1:44:30.640 --> 1:44:32.759 This is the tweet, So that's the one. Everyone. 1:44:33.439 --> 1:44:35.320 Look how many fucking views are Yes? 1:44:35.360 --> 1:44:37.960 So someone said outcast, which is true. Damn two point 1:44:38.000 --> 1:44:40.040 eight million DMX. That person should be blocked. 1:44:41.439 --> 1:44:43.599 It's going to get worse. This is your people. That's 1:44:43.680 --> 1:44:44.400 just the madness. 1:44:44.800 --> 1:44:52.040 J Z four classes conye C might be close. I 1:44:52.160 --> 1:44:58.840 might have cube is jay Z. Don't uh outcast day 1:44:59.120 --> 1:45:03.040 the roots. This is your people, y'all. Just say NAS 1:45:03.080 --> 1:45:03.639 don't have four. 1:45:04.000 --> 1:45:06.840 People said no, man, I see NAS probably top five 1:45:06.920 --> 1:45:07.679 gods mentioned. 1:45:07.600 --> 1:45:09.360 That's my favorite MC. Ever he don't got four. 1:45:09.640 --> 1:45:11.600 But this is the point, y'all. Don't understand what a 1:45:11.640 --> 1:45:13.800 classic album is. Y'all just saying it's a really good 1:45:13.840 --> 1:45:17.840 album or you think it's almost perfect. That's not There's 1:45:17.920 --> 1:45:20.280 no way Kanye dropped five Get Richard die Tron's in 1:45:20.320 --> 1:45:20.559 a row. 1:45:20.600 --> 1:45:22.679 It's just not true. No, he did six. 1:45:23.000 --> 1:45:24.400 He didn't drop six in a row. 1:45:24.520 --> 1:45:26.519 Six in a row. And you're right, no way five 1:45:26.600 --> 1:45:27.320 because it was six. 1:45:27.479 --> 1:45:28.479 He didn't drop six. 1:45:28.600 --> 1:45:29.040 It was six. 1:45:29.360 --> 1:45:32.360 So six of Kanye's album is Get rich of true 1:45:32.439 --> 1:45:39.000 first six, the first six. Yeah, this is crazy. 1:45:39.640 --> 1:45:43.439 Yeah, I mean I put get Richard die Try. 1:45:43.560 --> 1:45:46.000 It's funny because people think I'm interacting former Like I 1:45:46.080 --> 1:45:47.479 thought this was a reasonable point. 1:45:47.560 --> 1:45:49.360 Oh, I figured, I think how rare it is so 1:45:49.439 --> 1:45:51.439 people think you were trolling for the for the interaction, 1:45:51.640 --> 1:45:52.120 I sweart. 1:45:52.160 --> 1:45:55.519 I was like, wait a minute, and my tripping, like, 1:45:55.640 --> 1:45:57.559 why does this tweet have three million views? 1:45:58.320 --> 1:46:00.320 Is it safe to say? On the West Coast the 1:46:00.400 --> 1:46:04.040 person that's in the discussion is Kendrick. I mean, I 1:46:04.120 --> 1:46:04.439 don't know. 1:46:04.520 --> 1:46:06.280 I don't believe. I don't believe. I don't believe no 1:46:06.360 --> 1:46:09.760 one has four classic album. There's nobody in the discussion. Well, 1:46:09.800 --> 1:46:13.439 I think cube, if you look at America's more Death Certificate, 1:46:13.560 --> 1:46:15.760 then you say straight out of Compton and West Side 1:46:15.800 --> 1:46:18.200 Connection maybe, but then a lot of people might not 1:46:18.280 --> 1:46:22.000 look at West Side Connection as a consensus classic. 1:46:21.840 --> 1:46:23.679 Uncultured twine is what we call those people. 1:46:23.800 --> 1:46:27.000 You feel me, But it's like, I wouldn't think I 1:46:27.160 --> 1:46:28.679 really thought that. I was like, damn, it's some people 1:46:28.720 --> 1:46:30.479 that got close to three. Like I thought Kanye. I'm like, 1:46:30.560 --> 1:46:34.240 Kanye might have three. I thought might have got Yeah, 1:46:34.320 --> 1:46:36.559 I think j might have three. I was like, Nas 1:46:36.600 --> 1:46:37.559 probably has for sure. 1:46:37.680 --> 1:46:37.840 Two. 1:46:38.240 --> 1:46:40.960 Life is good is better than Illmatic, but Illmatic is 1:46:41.000 --> 1:46:44.880 a classic, right, I disagree, I understand, but I'm saying 1:46:44.920 --> 1:46:48.519 Life is Good is a better album then Illmatic, but 1:46:48.640 --> 1:46:49.920 Illmadic is the classic. 1:46:50.040 --> 1:46:53.719 Life is Good isn't even a top four NAS album. 1:46:53.760 --> 1:46:55.439 That's because NAS fans have bad tastes. 1:46:55.560 --> 1:46:59.800 That's not true. It's good, it was written better. No, 1:46:59.880 --> 1:47:01.920 I like Life is Good. No, no, no, no, it's 1:47:02.000 --> 1:47:05.160 fail mad. It was written lost tapes. 1:47:05.920 --> 1:47:08.600 You get what I'm saying, Like, if you listen, I 1:47:08.760 --> 1:47:09.599 wasn't the biggest. 1:47:11.479 --> 1:47:14.000 It's because you're fucking twelve. And his goat sulta Wayne. 1:47:14.280 --> 1:47:17.240 Little Wayne is dope. Oh motherfucker said, Lil Wayne got 1:47:17.280 --> 1:47:19.639 five classic goalbum he said all the Carters. 1:47:19.680 --> 1:47:21.560 I was like, you should have blocked who ever said that. 1:47:21.920 --> 1:47:24.040 I was like, bro, why, But that's as bad as 1:47:24.040 --> 1:47:25.799 you saying Kanye got six classes. 1:47:25.920 --> 1:47:28.519 No, listen, there's an argument to be made that Wayne's 1:47:28.560 --> 1:47:32.840 got two Carter two and three. I wouldn't even say that. 1:47:33.040 --> 1:47:35.599 And I actually think my favorite one is the best one. Well, 1:47:35.640 --> 1:47:37.640 I was about to say that my favorite is the 1:47:37.680 --> 1:47:38.160 Carter one. 1:47:38.400 --> 1:47:39.040 It's the best one. 1:47:39.120 --> 1:47:41.680 I think Birdman Junior is my favorite Little Wayne song ever. 1:47:42.479 --> 1:47:44.720 And then you got I miss my dogs, but. 1:47:44.800 --> 1:47:47.320 You're getting closed. Probably my favorite Little Wayne. 1:47:47.160 --> 1:47:50.320 Song was on the quarter Cardan Junior is my favorite. 1:47:50.840 --> 1:47:53.160 But all I'm saying Party two didn't age well, you 1:47:53.240 --> 1:47:57.280 know what's a classic or close to it? Like father, 1:47:57.479 --> 1:47:57.800 like son? 1:48:00.479 --> 1:48:03.439 See see what I'm saying now, and then bird Man 1:48:03.479 --> 1:48:04.920 and look at this shit and be like, fucking no, 1:48:05.200 --> 1:48:06.760 fucking stunt of the ship was the ship? 1:48:06.840 --> 1:48:08.320 But why you got to just say classic? 1:48:08.680 --> 1:48:10.960 You were signing cash money right, yes, But then now 1:48:11.040 --> 1:48:12.880 I'll say something bird To look at me and be like, 1:48:13.120 --> 1:48:13.960 you just go I'm. 1:48:13.840 --> 1:48:15.280 Not a classic? 1:48:15.880 --> 1:48:17.680 Why why do we gotta go that far? 1:48:17.800 --> 1:48:20.439 It's a cult classic? How about that? It's not if 1:48:20.479 --> 1:48:22.840 you're not at it's not a hip hop consensus. 1:48:23.040 --> 1:48:25.080 The greatest album out of the South is a cash 1:48:25.120 --> 1:48:25.639 money album. 1:48:25.800 --> 1:48:29.840 It's four hundred degrees. That's a class far, yes, by far. 1:48:30.080 --> 1:48:33.599 Four hundred degrees is the best cash money album of all. 1:48:33.720 --> 1:48:36.800 It's the greatest album out of the South, and guy, 1:48:37.320 --> 1:48:40.920 four hundred degrees womenI is better. 1:48:41.080 --> 1:48:43.400 But four hundred degrees is the best cash money album ever. 1:48:43.479 --> 1:48:46.240 It's the best album out of the South's. 1:48:45.840 --> 1:48:47.800 And I'm not mad at that take. It's not that's 1:48:47.840 --> 1:48:51.120 a reasonable take, But all my takes for hip hop 1:48:51.439 --> 1:48:52.479 takes a reasonable four hit. 1:48:52.600 --> 1:48:53.880 What's the worst? What's my worst take? 1:48:54.280 --> 1:48:58.360 Kanye don't have four classics. He's the only one was 1:48:58.439 --> 1:49:05.040 for well besides Outcast, out Cast got five. I'll cast 1:49:05.120 --> 1:49:07.640 is bat in one thousand percent. We won't even count Idlewild. 1:49:07.920 --> 1:49:10.680 It was a soundtrack because a classic. No, it was 1:49:10.720 --> 1:49:13.599 a soundtrack. But it's a classic soundtrack. I mean it's 1:49:13.600 --> 1:49:17.559 not a bad soundtrack. It's got Hollywood Divorce on there 1:49:17.600 --> 1:49:19.840 with Lil Wayne, and it's fucked. 1:49:19.600 --> 1:49:21.960 Up because all these people are like guys, my predecessors 1:49:22.000 --> 1:49:23.920 I look up to, and then it makes me sound 1:49:24.000 --> 1:49:26.839 so crazy. Okay, like Father, like Son is a cult classic, 1:49:28.880 --> 1:49:32.200 Like the first big Timers album, Fuck yeah, I got 1:49:32.240 --> 1:49:32.639 that work. 1:49:32.720 --> 1:49:34.120 No, it's not the first big Timers. 1:49:33.880 --> 1:49:36.120 Album, the first one that came on Universal before I. 1:49:36.160 --> 1:49:42.679 Got that work cult classic. They just listen, whoa, whoa, whoa. 1:49:43.880 --> 1:49:46.120 They just put that album on the DSPs like two 1:49:46.240 --> 1:49:49.160 years ago, and I was like, bro, what the first 1:49:49.200 --> 1:49:52.639 big Timers album? Oh? I had that city three different times. 1:49:52.960 --> 1:49:54.120 You got so scratched up. 1:49:54.280 --> 1:49:56.080 But that don't mean you don't look you don't have 1:49:56.240 --> 1:49:58.360 to make albums we like a classic. You could just 1:49:58.520 --> 1:49:58.760 like them. 1:49:58.800 --> 1:50:00.760 Big timers have a could. I'm are called certain hip 1:50:00.760 --> 1:50:02.880 hop albums cult classics, like all them Kanye is are 1:50:02.920 --> 1:50:05.639 cult classic, Drake. Nothing was the same cult classic. I'm 1:50:05.720 --> 1:50:08.240 not mad at that. I'm not mad at a cultured classic. 1:50:08.240 --> 1:50:10.639 But then what coaching fifty cent the massacre? Cult classic? 1:50:11.280 --> 1:50:14.759 No great album, very great album, cult classic. 1:50:15.200 --> 1:50:17.840 No, you don't have to put classic and great together. 1:50:18.280 --> 1:50:19.000 It's just different. 1:50:19.080 --> 1:50:21.880 It's a cult classic. It's not a cun bab for 1:50:21.960 --> 1:50:23.080 mercy cult classic. 1:50:23.400 --> 1:50:26.040 That intro is for sure culture classic. I was just 1:50:26.080 --> 1:50:29.120 talking about that though. Songs like Zoom is a cult classic. 1:50:29.439 --> 1:50:33.759 Boozy no Zoom What the commodoes. 1:50:33.320 --> 1:50:35.040 Oh, I thaid, well, listen, bro, we're talk about hip hop. 1:50:35.080 --> 1:50:39.360 I'm thinking Boozy zoom zone. We said culture right, So culture, 1:50:39.400 --> 1:50:41.519 when I say cult classic, I mean like Kill Bill 1:50:41.640 --> 1:50:44.880 Volume one and two together, it's a cult classic. My 1:50:44.960 --> 1:50:46.479 favorite movie ever. Cult classic. Yeah. 1:50:46.479 --> 1:50:49.120 They create a culture behind them and people enjoy them 1:50:49.160 --> 1:50:55.120 as a group. Here I go, mystical cult classic. Here 1:50:55.200 --> 1:50:57.439 I go, that is a culture classic. 1:50:57.560 --> 1:51:00.720 Yeah. Because now when Dean Sanders wins, he's play me 1:51:00.760 --> 1:51:04.160 my music and what's on that? It's that Wow, I 1:51:04.200 --> 1:51:05.400 ain't know that. Yep. 1:51:06.479 --> 1:51:08.840 So it's certain things. But you just got to stop 1:51:08.880 --> 1:51:09.360 abusing the. 1:51:09.360 --> 1:51:10.600 Word classic like I'm not. 1:51:11.000 --> 1:51:14.479 I'm speaking facts. Kanye doesn't have four classes and you're 1:51:14.520 --> 1:51:17.439 right he has six. He doesn't have six. Kanye may 1:51:17.520 --> 1:51:19.439 have Kanye may have two classics. 1:51:19.560 --> 1:51:23.759 Kanye's got the single greatest discography we've ever seen, followed 1:51:23.800 --> 1:51:29.800 by Outcast, followed by ghost Face. 1:51:29.840 --> 1:51:32.400 Skill up, I'm not mad at the face. I'm not 1:51:32.520 --> 1:51:33.160 mad atos face. 1:51:33.320 --> 1:51:34.479 Oh you know what I got you? 1:51:34.680 --> 1:51:36.200 So Kanye dropped six purple tapes? 1:51:36.320 --> 1:51:38.760 That's what you said? Yep. Yeah. 1:51:38.840 --> 1:51:40.879 Now next time they see you, we have this conversation 1:51:41.000 --> 1:51:43.320 they see you. It was like Kanye dropped six purple tape. 1:51:43.360 --> 1:51:46.040 Kanye dropped, no fucking six purple tapes. No he didn't, 1:51:46.160 --> 1:51:47.679 you're right, didn't. 1:51:48.280 --> 1:51:48.960 Well, he dropped. 1:51:50.680 --> 1:51:52.479 Do you know how asked night As you're saying he drops, 1:51:52.680 --> 1:51:54.280 do you know what you're saying when you say that 1:51:54.560 --> 1:51:56.160 he dropped six purple tapes? 1:51:58.520 --> 1:52:01.599 This nick is crazy. Well, go get the album, cancel 1:52:01.680 --> 1:52:03.360 these nuts. Go to the cryptstore dot com. 1:52:03.560 --> 1:52:06.680 Yeah, the cripstore dot com. Grab the autograph copy. You 1:52:06.720 --> 1:52:09.599 can also go, I got vinyl stream, I got cassettes. 1:52:09.640 --> 1:52:10.320 I got cassette. 1:52:11.320 --> 1:52:14.360 Yeah it's crippy. Yeah, how do you get vinyl made 1:52:14.360 --> 1:52:16.280 as an independent artist these days? Just pay for it, 1:52:18.040 --> 1:52:20.519 just like distributed to anybody. You just handle this, nah, 1:52:20.560 --> 1:52:21.400 Olivia's collection. 1:52:21.720 --> 1:52:25.040 I made my own distribution company for my mom's just 1:52:25.120 --> 1:52:28.040 distributing it, putting it out there. It's all good. It's 1:52:28.040 --> 1:52:29.679 a really great record. They've been telling me it's classic, 1:52:29.720 --> 1:52:31.200 but y'all fucked it up for me when I got 1:52:31.600 --> 1:52:34.840 three million people like viewing the tweet saying everybody got 1:52:34.880 --> 1:52:36.800 four classics, so I'm like them now, I can't respect 1:52:36.840 --> 1:52:40.320 your fucking opinion on saying my album is a classic classic. 1:52:40.520 --> 1:52:43.200 I don't. I wouldn't listen to enough. That's like asking 1:52:43.280 --> 1:52:44.559 me if Tim Duncan has a good game. 1:52:44.720 --> 1:52:45.040 He does. 1:52:45.520 --> 1:52:46.679 I've never really paid. 1:52:46.560 --> 1:52:47.800 His fifth best player ever. 1:52:48.040 --> 1:52:49.400 I think in in the top five too, but I 1:52:49.520 --> 1:52:51.559 just never watched the games, Like, I can't go back 1:52:51.600 --> 1:52:53.519 to a moment I ever saw Tim Duncan was like man, 1:52:53.560 --> 1:52:54.519 Tim Duncan in that moment. 1:52:54.600 --> 1:52:56.360 Well, he was cooking the suns in the playoffs my 1:52:56.400 --> 1:52:57.439 whole life. So I've seen him. 1:52:57.479 --> 1:52:59.280 Yeah, and That's how I feel about j Cole Like 1:52:59.360 --> 1:53:01.360 unless you watch who he playing again, so you're watching 1:53:01.400 --> 1:53:04.120 his career, you really he don't have moments that jump. 1:53:04.040 --> 1:53:09.680 Off who higher Kobe or Duncan Duncan Duncan as an 1:53:09.800 --> 1:53:11.680 la nigga too, no ship All right, that's want to 1:53:11.720 --> 1:53:12.719 make sure you're reasonable. 1:53:12.760 --> 1:53:14.040 I'm fair, you are fair. 1:53:14.120 --> 1:53:17.759 Yeah, top five guys, top number five, best power for whatever. 1:53:17.800 --> 1:53:21.000 Only I'll say I wouldn't even I wouldn't even put 1:53:21.080 --> 1:53:23.000 one through five. This is just the best five player 1:53:23.040 --> 1:53:25.040 because it's five people on the court, so it don't 1:53:25.040 --> 1:53:27.040 matter who first or fifth, they just all the same. 1:53:27.240 --> 1:53:32.040 That's fair magic Michael Jordan, Lebron, James, Tim Duncan, Bill. 1:53:31.920 --> 1:53:34.360 Russell, I think he could be Korean? 1:53:35.040 --> 1:53:42.720 All right, poor, how are you gonna do this year? No, 1:53:42.880 --> 1:53:44.760 Shack is not the top ten, but shout out to 1:53:44.760 --> 1:53:49.240 show no say nine, No, nah, I've always struggled with 1:53:49.240 --> 1:53:50.559 Shack between fifteen and twenty five. 1:53:50.600 --> 1:53:53.320 You don't think with Shack is tough as that like eleven. 1:53:53.000 --> 1:53:55.640 Through twenty five, Shack could be anywhere because even as 1:53:55.680 --> 1:53:58.360 a sinner like I'm not sure like I wanted some 1:53:58.479 --> 1:54:00.160 days put him above logic. 1:54:00.640 --> 1:54:02.320 But he got cooked up by a team in the finals. 1:54:02.439 --> 1:54:04.799 Ye. And then do I put him over Wilt Chamberlain? 1:54:05.280 --> 1:54:11.240 Yes, really yeah for VP two championship hundred point games, 1:54:11.720 --> 1:54:14.880 then Ventner of the big It's just it's just either way. 1:54:14.920 --> 1:54:15.400 I'm fine. 1:54:16.080 --> 1:54:18.200 Yeah, he's a top five. I just don't know if 1:54:18.240 --> 1:54:21.200 he's three to five like you said, it's like three 1:54:21.240 --> 1:54:23.439 to five. He not Kareem or he's not Bill Russell. 1:54:23.960 --> 1:54:26.160 That's fair. He's not Kareem. He's not Bill Russell. 1:54:26.240 --> 1:54:28.160 And that's how I start doing my ship that position, 1:54:28.280 --> 1:54:28.760 someone who I. 1:54:28.760 --> 1:54:32.240 Hate that's starting to get forced themselves into these discussions unfortunately. 1:54:32.440 --> 1:54:35.360 And Steph Curry's yeah, he's for short top ten. Now 1:54:35.400 --> 1:54:37.160 he's getting there. He's there. Now he's there. 1:54:37.440 --> 1:54:40.160 He's the second, he's the second best point guard clearly ever. 1:54:40.680 --> 1:54:46.400 Magic Steph Zeke No, Magic, Steph Oscar Yes, Zeke No, 1:54:47.520 --> 1:54:50.240 he is like six. I'm gonna this is gonna sound 1:54:50.320 --> 1:54:52.600 blast missing. This is probably my worst take. I'm going 1:54:52.640 --> 1:54:53.760 Tony Parker over Zeke. 1:54:54.240 --> 1:54:57.040 Fuck out of here. Okay, that's your worst tae. At 1:54:57.120 --> 1:54:58.640 least you acknowledge it to be your worst take. 1:54:59.240 --> 1:55:00.880 Yeah, that's probably my worst take. 1:55:00.920 --> 1:55:03.880 It's Chris Paul top five PG. Ever No is he 1:55:03.960 --> 1:55:07.040 six seven? No? Really he's ten. No, he's top ten. 1:55:07.240 --> 1:55:11.480 No, you're crazy, top eleven through fifteen. I'm going Gary 1:55:11.560 --> 1:55:14.080 Payton over him. I'm going Dennis Johnson from Counting over 1:55:14.160 --> 1:55:16.920 You're fucking crazy. I'm going Jason Kidd over him. 1:55:17.200 --> 1:55:17.760 Fucking crazy. 1:55:17.840 --> 1:55:19.800 I'm going John Stockton over him. 1:55:19.960 --> 1:55:23.320 That's a fair, that's fair. You were You wouldn't putt 1:55:23.360 --> 1:55:24.040 Nash over Paul. 1:55:24.640 --> 1:55:26.440 Yeah, I'm putting Nash over Paul two MVP. 1:55:26.640 --> 1:55:29.320 Yeah yeah, yeah. Nammy just was nasty. So is Paul. 1:55:29.560 --> 1:55:31.560 Paul is fantastic. But you gotta do something with it. 1:55:31.600 --> 1:55:34.320 You gotta go, you gotta you gotta get there. 1:55:34.920 --> 1:55:38.360 He went, No, he never went. He went to the 1:55:38.400 --> 1:55:41.200 finals and played the Bucks. Did he play? Yes? 1:55:41.760 --> 1:55:43.440 I could have swore he was. Well, I guess that's 1:55:43.480 --> 1:55:44.600 not bad. Yeah, I gotta look at that. 1:55:44.880 --> 1:55:45.920 He played the whole series. 1:55:46.040 --> 1:55:48.680 Yeah, I still like a putting. He probably eleven. 1:55:50.240 --> 1:55:51.560 Son Son's winning the finals. 1:55:53.400 --> 1:55:58.840 Yeah, I don't know. No, this is the one play defense. 1:55:58.600 --> 1:56:03.240 Everybody we got Vogel. Vogel make him play. One of 1:56:03.240 --> 1:56:04.360 the most underrated coaches ever. 1:56:04.440 --> 1:56:06.000 Man, I'm not mad. At that, but he ain't gonna 1:56:06.000 --> 1:56:10.360 make them play no defense. Yeah, you gotta have some defense. 1:56:10.400 --> 1:56:12.160 I do like this year because there's no clear cut. 1:56:13.240 --> 1:56:15.720 There's a lot of unknown. The disrespect to Denver is 1:56:15.800 --> 1:56:16.800 just other worldly. 1:56:17.320 --> 1:56:19.960 Well, there's a lot bringing the same team. No, they 1:56:20.040 --> 1:56:23.400 lost Bruce Brown, not Bruce Bowen right now, Bruce Bawn 1:56:23.440 --> 1:56:24.720 played for the Bruce Brown. 1:56:24.960 --> 1:56:29.280 They lost Bruce Brown. Really, they lost Jeff Green really. 1:56:29.920 --> 1:56:33.880 Yeah, you get what I'm saying right right, like Denver, 1:56:33.960 --> 1:56:34.360 that would love. 1:56:34.680 --> 1:56:38.360 Lakers probably had the best offseason, No or the Suns. 1:56:40.080 --> 1:56:43.160 Son's probably Boston Pa get the best roster, probably Boston. 1:56:43.160 --> 1:56:44.760 Boston got the unicorn. 1:56:44.640 --> 1:56:45.640 And they got Drew Yea. 1:56:45.800 --> 1:56:47.800 The thing is they got you out of there, so 1:56:47.920 --> 1:56:48.840 they often got better. 1:56:49.040 --> 1:56:49.840 I just see the dope. 1:56:49.960 --> 1:56:50.880 Memphis is a sleeper. 1:56:51.160 --> 1:56:51.560 No they're not. 1:56:51.720 --> 1:56:54.560 I'm telling you, getting Marcus Moore in the backcourt and having. 1:56:54.840 --> 1:56:58.240 J JJ's Jared Jackson Junior is going to be out 1:56:58.320 --> 1:57:01.160 for three to five months. He got a surgery last week. 1:57:02.120 --> 1:57:05.400 Oh my god. And then John Moran can't play for 1:57:05.440 --> 1:57:08.360 how many games? Yeah, but if they hold on, they 1:57:08.440 --> 1:57:12.200 won't now, not without Jared Jackson. They coach will I 1:57:12.280 --> 1:57:12.560 don't know. 1:57:13.000 --> 1:57:15.480 I don't know. I'm telling you you gotta watch them 1:57:15.480 --> 1:57:16.960 because they scrappy bunch. 1:57:17.640 --> 1:57:21.560 Yeah. John Moran's the fucking off, but he figured out 1:57:21.560 --> 1:57:22.880 he'd be all right now. I don't know what's wrong. 1:57:23.000 --> 1:57:25.040 I like this season because it's the most It's just 1:57:25.080 --> 1:57:26.520 a lot of unknowns said. 1:57:26.560 --> 1:57:28.760 We just disrespected Denver, and I'm not gonna dispect Denver. 1:57:28.880 --> 1:57:31.240 So Denver is the well. I always say this as 1:57:31.440 --> 1:57:35.960 I see that the rosters currently Denver has the best player. 1:57:37.520 --> 1:57:41.680 The Lakers have the best roster. All right, the podcast 1:57:41.760 --> 1:57:44.240 is over this. Niggas the top the bottom, and the 1:57:44.280 --> 1:57:48.120 Sun's got and the Suns. The Sun's got the Laker, 1:57:48.440 --> 1:57:49.520 the Lakers rosters. 1:57:49.560 --> 1:57:52.640 Fucking sex man is the loser, though, Dog, you stop. 1:57:53.240 --> 1:57:54.120 This is what happens. 1:57:54.480 --> 1:57:56.760 It's like when you podcast too long. What do they 1:57:56.840 --> 1:58:00.680 call that? Like you walk across the des Yeah. I 1:58:00.840 --> 1:58:02.920 never start to put it on videos. Sucking around, man, 1:58:02.960 --> 1:58:06.080 I gotta get some help. That's some ship. Stop sucking around. Stop. 1:58:07.320 --> 1:58:09.400 No one knows about your podcast because it's audio only. 1:58:09.560 --> 1:58:11.760 I have I do like twenty thousand downloads a week. 1:58:11.840 --> 1:58:14.840 You should be doing one hundred thousand views. If I 1:58:14.920 --> 1:58:17.680 get videos to do it. It's not you need people 1:58:17.720 --> 1:58:20.880 to do it like that guy matters. You need one guy, 1:58:21.000 --> 1:58:21.920 his life matters. 1:58:22.680 --> 1:58:24.760 I need I don't have that one guy is Who 1:58:24.840 --> 1:58:28.760 the fuck is that one? Someone in fucking Palmdale waiting 1:58:29.000 --> 1:58:31.440 for you to hire that No, then, I've never seen him. 1:58:32.320 --> 1:58:35.480 I don't know him. You gotta go video, I know, 1:58:35.640 --> 1:58:38.120 but you gotta have somebody like that guy back there. 1:58:38.160 --> 1:58:39.080 What's the name of the podcast? 1:58:39.200 --> 1:58:40.280 People go, no selling. 1:58:40.320 --> 1:58:42.600 People can listen to it because they can't watch it. 1:58:42.760 --> 1:58:45.480 Yes, it's a real podcast. It's not a YouTube show. 1:58:47.160 --> 1:58:47.840 Tarlam get it. 1:58:48.120 --> 1:58:51.280 Don't let Trailermane's narrative about YouTube not mattering in your head. 1:58:51.320 --> 1:58:53.520 We just say YouTube don't matter. But a podcast is 1:58:53.600 --> 1:58:56.360 what you hear? Yeah, well listen, get on YouTube. Jim alone, 1:58:56.480 --> 1:58:56.840 I got you. 1:58:56.920 --> 1:58:57.840 I gotta find you somebody. 1:58:57.880 --> 1:58:59.880 You've been telling me this. This is your second guy 1:59:00.200 --> 1:59:01.800 like this third. 1:59:02.360 --> 1:59:04.240 See you just find these niggas that just because you 1:59:04.360 --> 1:59:07.320 in Hollywood, all these dolls are just around the corner. 1:59:07.360 --> 1:59:09.280 People are from Arizona that you meant see. 1:59:09.200 --> 1:59:12.280 That's even that's like some of the talented Joker is 1:59:12.320 --> 1:59:14.879 one of the talented people I know is from Arizona. 1:59:14.960 --> 1:59:16.080 Oh my god, that guy. 1:59:16.160 --> 1:59:19.480 It's incredible what happened to him? He's still making music 1:59:19.560 --> 1:59:22.400 and his face. Yes, he's a Juggal. You know he 1:59:22.440 --> 1:59:23.560 shot Tupac must Die. 1:59:24.000 --> 1:59:25.160 Is he a Juggalo? Yes? 1:59:25.640 --> 1:59:27.880 Yeah, Well you know he's not a Joe. 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