WEBVTT - Missing Shacaiah 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:03.680 I've heard that there's a house and has some bodies 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:04.280 in the basement. 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.480 Somebody told you that Hicaia was a victim of human trafficking. 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:10.119 I'm come to find out. This is like it exploded 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:12.120 into this huge thing. 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:14.560 I knew, I just knew something was wrong. 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.919 Police say thirty three year old Jared Bridigan was shot dead. 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:20.280 I kept calling his phone during the drive. 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:22.840 Gunned down in front of his two year old daughter. 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:25.200 It's a murder of the stun jack speech neighbors. 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.880 His murder has attracted national attention, with the investigators saying 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:31.840 he was targeted. Eventually, a police officer answered and told 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:33.320 me to come to the police station. 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.800 Justice is something that takes different shapes reformed. 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:43.280 If you know something, heard something, please it's never too 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:43.840 late to. 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:44.560 Do the right thing. 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.080 So I'm Dana Thompson aka Body Movin, and. 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:51.519 I'm John Green. For about a decade, Deanna and I 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.400 spent a lot of time on the Internet, especially in 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.440 the underbelly of the Internet, trying to identify and get 0:00:57.480 --> 0:00:59.080 animal abusers arrested. 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:05.560 We spent countless hours scouring the dark web helping catch predators. 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:07.600 We spent over a year and a half trying to 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.360 get law enforcement to take us seriously about a man 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:12.840 that was killing cats online and he was threatening to 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:15.640 move on to kill humans. And that was Luca mcnatta. 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.560 Yeah, you might have heard about the Netflix special called 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:19.840 Don't Fuck with Cats. 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:24.320 That's us. Well, now we're turning our online investigator skills 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:28.520 to some of the most unexplained, unsolved, and just ignored cases. 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:35.080 This is true Crimes, the production of iHeartRadio and Katie's Studios. 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:39.640 I firmly believe that there are only three people outside 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:42.800 of Jared who knew that that was his route, and 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:47.480 that's myself, his ex's wife and her husband. No public statement, 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:49.600 no please for help, nothing. 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:51.040 Why do you think that is? 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:55.600 Well, my opinion is they don't want it solved. 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:58.840 I think we need to know more about Jared's previous marriage. 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:02.760 Yeah, the relationship between Jared and his ex Donna Gardner 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:06.280 Fernandez and her new husband, that needs to be looked 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:09.800 at further. Kirsten made the point that only she, his 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.960 ex wife, and her husband, would know the route he 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:16.440 was traveling home, which makes Jared's divorce seem all the 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:18.600 more crucial to understand. 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:22.040 Especially with his murder happening right after Jared dropped their 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:23.440 kids off at his ex wife's home. 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.920 And of course you know there's also Shanna's new husband 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:29.920 and his things he was doing to the neighbor's cats. 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:33.600 Let's talk more about Jared, his ex wife, Shanna's relationship 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:38.520 with Kirsten, and Jared's brother Adam. Can you tell me 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:40.040 why they got divorced? 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:45.280 In the court document, Shanna claims they just didn't love 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:49.160 each other anymore. But and I'm sure you'll see this 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:53.600 as you research it, she cheated on Jared with her 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:57.560 personal trainer and when he confronted her about it after 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:03.440 finding images between the two of them, she was just like, yep, 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.560 I don't. I think she wanted to just get married 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.760 because that's what her friends and her sisters were doing. 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:13.080 But then when Jared gained a little bit of weight 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:15.880 as he was trying to launch some businesses, she just 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:19.359 she just I don't think she ever truly loved him 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.640 and looked for and out and she found it and 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:23.440 that was the end. 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:26.600 Is the guy she married to, the guy that she 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:29.520 had affair with, No, it is a different guy. Oh, 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:31.760 different guy Okay. And does she have any. 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:35.880 Other children, No, she just has the twins, boy girl twins. 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:36.440 I'm Jared. 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:39.840 Was there any fight over the children? 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:45.360 Constant? This has been reported on pretty heavily in the media, 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:51.240 So it was over everything and honestly, yes, legal battle, 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:55.160 tech messages, emails. It was not amicable whatsoever. 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:57.000 Did she want full clustody? 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:59.200 Yeah, she had pushed her. 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.120 That early on getting back when they went to the police. 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:03.600 Have they lawyered up at all? 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:07.720 They hired the top notch criminal offense attorney in the 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:14.440 state of Florida. However, he and they claimed they got 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:18.240 him to help keep the images of the children out 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:22.520 of the media, which makes absolutely zero sense. 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:24.520 She and his mom is. 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:30.440 One of the founders of a very large craft company, 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:33.919 and she runs the blogs like a pr blog, and 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.560 Liam and Abbey are blasted all over that thing. So 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.000 it's like, if she really cared about her kid's pictures 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:43.039 not being on the internet, then why is her mom's 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.680 blog up like that whole excuse? It just doesn't add up. 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:48.320 Is it like a big company? 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:53.600 Yeah, they pull in millions of dollars a year? Really, Yeah, 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:59.120 the company, It's been reported that it's like one hundred 0:04:59.120 --> 0:04:59.880 million dollars. 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.560 Does she work at all or she staying on mom. 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:10.560 She was running at home bakery business. She has since 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:16.040 apparently closed down that baking business. When Jared and Shanna 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.760 were married, they were given a monthly stipend of over 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.520 eight thousand dollars from her parents, and that is a 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.960 common thing that they have done with all of their children. 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:31.320 So when she sued for full custody and child support 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:35.960 during the divorce, he counter sued for alimony, full custody, 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.880 and child support. Didn't get any of that, so they 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:42.159 basically walked away with neither of them paying each other 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:46.880 anything and sharing fifty to fifty percent custody of the kids. However, 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.760 when Shanna heard that Jared and I were getting married, 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:54.400 she then sued him for child support, claiming that she 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.960 was super poor. She showed up to court dress like 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:01.760 she just shopped at Goodwill and found the frumpiest thing 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:05.640 she could. Like, she did not look like herself, That's 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:07.880 how I'll put it. Like usually she's in very tight 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.960 fitting athletic wear, showing off her sleeve tattoo, like she's 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:15.280 very proud of like her physique and her body art. 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:18.320 She was not like that in court. I had never 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.960 seen Shanna like that, and we ended up having to 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:25.280 pay her child support for years. Shanna also has a 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:30.480 pattern of her parents do not think she had an affair, 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.320 So I think they were shocked when it came out 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.560 in the media that the person that Shannon had the 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:40.800 affair with confirmed that it actually happened. So I think 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.599 that played into their anger of why Jared is getting 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:45.600 money because they thought he was the bad guy and 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.480 all of this, we're in reality, Shannon is the one 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:49.720 that brought everything. 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:53.119 To a head. Everything that I'm reading point is saying 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:55.920 that the ex wife is You know what I do 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:58.279 is I read a lot of the comments that are posted, 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.400 and it looks like everybody in town where you live 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:03.480 is like, it's ex wife. It's the ex wife. So 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:05.719 John and I will look into that. Clear. I mean, 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.960 obviously there was a custody battle. We can get access 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:10.800 to the records. I want to go through that. 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:14.240 Let's stop here for a break. 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:15.560 We'll be back in a moment. 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:29.480 So let's go back to the cats for a one second. 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:35.000 In twenty eighteen, Mario Fernandez, who is married to Jared 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:39.640 Bardigan's ex wife, Shanna Gardner. Fernandez was contacted by local 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.760 police by to claim that he was killing neighborhood cats. 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:45.200 So I dug into it a little bit, and this 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:49.600 is the story. There was a neighborhood cat who was astray, 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:51.240 and one of the neighbors took the stray in and 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:55.400 named them Apollo. While Apollo one day in twenty eighteen 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.800 turned up with like a bloody leg, and so the 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:02.080 neighbor took Apollo to the vet and turns out that 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:06.120 he had been shot with a little pelican. Mario Fernandez 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:09.640 apparently admitted it to a neighbor that he was getting 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.920 irritated by the neighborhood cats. They were making his dogs 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.240 bark at night, so the neighbor called the police. The 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:20.520 police came and Mario refused to turn over this pelican. 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:24.480 Moving forward, I think it's going to be important to 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.600 keep that in the back of our mind for now. 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:29.720 We have a bunch of other avenues to go down. 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.959 We just need to keep that filed away for now 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:36.600 and come back to it later. While we continue to 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:39.280 dig into Jared's life and the evidence surrounding his murder, 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.120 were also looking into the disappearance of nineteen year old 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:43.319 Chikaia blue hearting. 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:47.000 Jakaya has been missing for more than four years and 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:52.959 was last seen in July of twenty eighteen in Billings, Montana. 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:56.120 Hikaya was staying at a local community center during the 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:57.439 day called Tumbleweed. 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:00.480 Unlike Jared's death, which has received a ton of national 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.559 media coverage, Chikaia's case is the exact opposite. 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:09.000 As an Indigenous woman, Shakaia's disappearance has almost been entirely ignored. 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:12.000 Which is pretty standard, unfortunately, something that we're learning more about. 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.080 No group of people are more at risk or received 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:18.400 less support from law enforcement than Indigenous women. 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.400 Chakaia Blue Harding. 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:23.920 That is a beautiful name. 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.240 It's absolutely gorgeous. Yeah, So for. 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:29.040 Me as or for us as people who look into things, 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:30.880 a name like this is very important. 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:33.720 Well, it's gonna it's going to possess some problems, I know, 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:34.240 and we're going. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:34.920 To talk about that. 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:39.080 So when we use osent techniques, you know, usually it's 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:42.280 a Google search most people use. So when you have 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:45.360 a name like this, it's not ordinary, it's actually can 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.960 be helpful and it can be not helpful. So especially 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:52.000 the way it's spelled. It's not spelled in a traditional way, 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.800 so that could help looking for information on this. 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.960 Person because her name could be spelled incorrectly on like 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.920 police reports. It could be spelled incorrectly on like Reddit threads. 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:03.800 It can you know what I mean? Like, it could 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.800 be spelled incorrectly on places that we would go look 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:12.000 to find information. Montana right now, So she's missing from Billings, Montana. 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.640 Oh God, she was gorgeous, right, see the pictures of her? 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:16.520 She looks very young. 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.559 Yeah, well she was nineteen when she went missing. Oh 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:20.360 is that her mom? 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:22.480 I think over the next couple of days, we're going 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:24.800 to have to do some work on her own, figure 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:28.040 out if there was any kind of foul play. I mean, obviously, 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:29.880 the first thing we need to know is was an 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:32.960 actual missing person's we work filed and if so, where 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:36.920 was it filed? And is it still active? We need 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.360 to get a better picture of who Shakaya. 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.680 Is, and like Jared, let's start with the people who 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:42.360 know her best. 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.160 Fortunate for us, we get to talk to Shikaya's sister, Shawnee. 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:48.880 Yeah, I understand they were really close. She'll be able 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:51.320 to tell us a lot about who Shikaya is and 0:10:51.360 --> 0:11:01.200 who she was spending time with before she went missing. Hi, Shawnee, Right, 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:04.760 I'm less sorry that your family's going through this, But yeah, 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:07.480 we just want to We would just want to bring 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:11.560 as much attention to Shakaia as possible. Obviously, we'd love 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:13.920 to solve it, you know, that'd be ideal, and we'd 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.760 love to be able to find her, but if barring that, 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.920 we want to bring as much attention as possible as 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.720 many eyes on her, right. And you know, we're not 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:26.520 here to like judge or like retraumatize your family. We 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.480 don't want to put you guys through any shit, you 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:31.800 know what I mean. We're not here for that. So 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:36.280 if at any time, at any time, like if I 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.280 have a question that you don't want to answer, or like, 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.040 you know, maybe you do want me to know, but 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:43.880 you don't want it to be on the broadcast or whatever, 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:45.920 just tell me, you know what I mean. I'm totally 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.840 one hundred percent, and I'm speaking for John two. We're 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.079 one hundred percent on your side, you know what I mean. 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.640 We just want to like establish a relationship with you 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:57.320 and like just tell us about Shakaia. Like I'm able 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:58.880 to read about her on the internet, but that doesn't 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.720 really tell me who she was outside of social media. 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:03.559 I need to know, like a little bit about her, 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:07.160 like what was she like? Did she have hobbies? What 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:08.120 can you tell me about her? 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:13.240 She's one of a cut She's stubborn, but she also 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.920 always had like a big heart. Hi Kai aways had 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.320 her own Chi Kai had her own type of humor. 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:27.520 But she had long hair. She had a roundish space. 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.400 She was not very tall. 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:34.000 She was very beautiful. She was very constant. 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.120 What did they call it, like a paradox. She loved 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.480 to take care of herself, but she was very little maintenance. 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.679 She loved the best makeup, but makeup wasn't important to her. 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:46.600 Or she loved the bright lipstick, but only when she 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.679 felt like it, never really cared about it or that 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:51.800 was not her that she was very low maintenance. 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.720 Chikai and I are about five years apart. 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.679 We'd go just to kind of hang out with my friends. 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:02.200 I'd like to listen to music together. 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:06.040 Anything we can sing too. That's what we used to 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:10.360 sing together. Not very great, but at least we tried. 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.040 We like to pretend we can sing and sing together. 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.600 I don't feel like it gets easier over time. She 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:21.080 didn't want to be like everybody else. She wanted to 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:24.880 be hers in her limited time. That she was here 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.240 with us. You know, she felt comfortable in who she was. 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:29.400 She knew who she was. 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:30.480 She was just Shakaya. 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:36.680 She's definitely a little firecracker. She was very goofy though. 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:38.959 She liked to be a center of attention. So if 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.959 she could make you laugh at being funny, she would 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:46.160 do anything she could and make you laugh. If you 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.480 were on her bad side, you were definitely on her 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:49.040 bad side. 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:50.520 I can tell you right now. We would have been 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:51.319 friends one PC. 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.080 So I raised her from when she was let's see, 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.400 she had to be in sixth grade, so she had 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.560 to be about twelve, so I can really say there's. 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:05.280 Nobody like her. 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:09.760 There's definitely one of a kind. Again, because she was 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.600 just very she was very stubborn. But yeah, she did 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.920 like to darance. Sometimes we'd go for car rides and 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:20.440 she would we would sing together. My favorite moment with 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.920 her had to be when I hit a note. I 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.200 wasn't even expecting to hit and she just gave me 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:30.280 that look like, oh my god. She loved She loved kids. 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:31.160 She loved her. 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:34.760 Nieces and nephews. She grew up more as a brother 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:41.040 as a sister to our oldest son, So She's very 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:44.800 close with him. Anybody that we were close to, she 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:49.720 kind of mostly clung to our I guess she connected 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:55.280 more with misunderstood kids. I'm assuming cup I'm assuming maybe 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:59.280 because I don't know she was. She felt misunderstood, and 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:03.760 I get that with the background that we have, Yeah, 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:06.720 with the background that we have it, I can see that. 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:07.000 Now. 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:10.720 Did she have a nickname Blue? So that is that? 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:14.880 Is that her middle name? Yes? Yeah, she'd be twenty three. 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:16.160 Now, right she would be yes. 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:18.880 Do you know like the circumstances like who does she 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:20.960 talk to? How? How do we know that was the 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.840 last day? Was she? Did she contact you? Or her 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:25.720 mom or her cousin or so? 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:30.920 She was in a place called Tumbleweed. How it started though, 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:35.040 was just the family thing, where's like, hey, have have 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:38.520 any of you heard from Chicaia? And we kind of 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:40.960 started going down our list of everybody that she would 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.000 be with. Have you heard from her? Have you heard 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.920 from her? And nobody? And it was kind of going 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:50.120 back to like a few like three weeks before the 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:54.440 last time anybody saw her. So she wasn't reported till August, right, 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.560 So we started kind of digging around and doing our 0:15:56.600 --> 0:16:01.240 own investigation because it wasn't really to us. It felt 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.160 like it wasn't really kicking off as much as we 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:06.320 wanted it to. So we started going around and looking. 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:11.680 But really it kind of came down to my niece Chakana, 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:16.000 who had all of her passwords and access to her 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:20.200 social media, and the last log in that she had 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.200 on social media was the twenty. 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.000 Third, the night of the twenty third, I guess I 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:27.680 have a question regarding that. So we were reading through 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.400 she was making a lot of posts on that day. 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:34.240 How would she have accessed how would she have accessed 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:36.160 Facebook to make those posts? 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.280 There was like a week period of where she had 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:44.119 my mother's phone. She also had access I'm assuming at Tumbleweed, 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.920 and then I know she had been to the library 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:51.880 quite a few times to access Supposedly, she goes missing 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:53.600 July twenty third, Your. 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.240 Family hasn't been really in touch with her, so your 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.120 you guys don't really realize right away in July, and 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.440 then you guys, first sometime in August, you guys realize, Hey, 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:07.160 she's missing. I believe sometime in August your mom goes 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.800 to the police to file a missing person to report. 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.159 Correct and who did she file that with. 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.120 That would be Billings police. 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.520 So she files it with the Billings Belief Police in 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:22.879 August and August September. For three months, it just sits 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:24.320 on somebody's desk. 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:29.879 Until a Yellowstone County Oh my gosh, Yellowstone County detective 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.800 picked it up. It was never hand to see him, 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:36.439 was never he just found it. He literally just found 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:37.480 it lying on a. 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:39.840 Desk and that was a deective Fritz, Is that right. 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.399 That's one of the things that we're hearing about, is 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.119 like when there's different law enforcement agencies, there's like a 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:48.240 complete lack of communication, and that's why a lot of 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:51.440 these girls go missing because it just sits on somebody's desk. 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:53.520 And that's the shit that pisses Deanna. 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:57.240 And I do you know she was enrolled in the 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:58.919 North Cheyenne Tribe. 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:01.680 Right northern Chaney, So I thought. 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:05.240 That when an Indigenous woman went missing, the FEDS would 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:08.880 get involved at some point, but that. 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:13.199 Only they are supposed to. But that doesn't always happen. 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.240 She wasn't actually even added to the database. 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:20.680 See here's the thing. Her social media presence just totally stopped, 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:25.040 like just stopped. And she doesn't seem like the type 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.879 of a type of girl that would just stop on 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:28.640 social media. 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.760 She's not. That's why. That was another reason why as well, 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:34.320 when we're like, hey, she's not even on any type 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:37.320 of social media. Again, she kind of had her logins 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.439 and so she could see when she was last on 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:42.680 and again that was July twenty third, and we haven't 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:45.040 seen or anything right her. 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:48.440 So she's being she's she's in a place where she 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:52.359 can't post, right, She's in a situation where she doesn't 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:56.040 have access to talk to anybody. So for her to 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:59.320 just stop like that doesn't make me think she ran away? 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.600 Does that make sense? So I that wasn't even an 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.080 option that I went down, Like, there's no way this 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:10.800 girl got on a bus and just ran away. Let's 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:12.280 stop here for another quick break. 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:28.280 So I came across a Facebook page called bring Hikaya 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:29.320 Harding Blue Home. 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:33.159 I'm assuming that's where her family's active is on Facebook, right. 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:37.119 Like, yeah, so it looks like this Facebook page was 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:40.320 last active in December of twenty twenty one. 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:48.600 John, I set up the discord server. Discord server is 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.240 just like a communications tool, right, It's like a chat room. 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:53.760 And the reason I use discord is because you can 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:58.320 organize it. You can organize it and pin things and 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.840 send in for me and create threads, and it's just 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.320 like a little chat room slash forum, I guess is 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:05.600 the best way to do it. 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:07.840 It's a good way to manage information and have it 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:10.199 in one central place that people can share it and 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:13.200 look into. So that's one of the tools we use. 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:17.199 Previously when we would work on animal cases. We primarily 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:20.280 use Facebook because back ten years ago, Facebook was the 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:23.720 social media everybody used. But in this day and age, 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:26.400 we use other tools like discord. 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:33.040 I found a harding blue Shakaya. She lives in Fort Riley, Kansas. 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:39.119 Her last post was July twenty fourth, twenty eighteen. I 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:44.439 will throw the link into discords poop. So that's a 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:47.199 situation where the name is spelled differently. This is like 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:49.760 one of the problems that we're going to run into. Luckily, 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:51.960 I am who I am. I can do whatever that 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:53.920 we know I can do. Ratshet. 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:57.960 Yeah, So the days leading up to her missing, she 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:03.399 was quite active on social media. Wait wait, wait, wait, wait, 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:04.120 what's the date? 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:10.119 July twenty fourth, twenty eighteen, So the day after she 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:12.760 went missing, right, she posted on the day after she 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:16.480 reportedly went missing at ten o'clock at night, like a 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:19.840 minute prior, she posted I'm not sure what that means. 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:23.040 Reputation is a hard thing to keep when all you 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:28.399 do is publicly entertaining and the popular have the votes 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:31.040 on how to make it. I guess I care what 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:34.360 you think. I wish you could see nothing. Very coded, 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:35.600 very coded. 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:38.520 Sounds like maybe there's a love interest involved. 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:46.680 Perhaps. Yeah. I'm at home right now, and I wanted 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:53.480 to start digging into Chakaia's socials and the find Shakaya 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:57.760 facebook page because like, I really feel like people will 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:02.360 leave like tips on that page. And it's also possible 0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:06.040 that people maybe that might have been involved in her 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:10.680