Speaker 1: I've heard that there's a house and has some bodies
Speaker 1: in the basement.
Speaker 2: Somebody told you that Hicaia was a victim of human trafficking.
Speaker 1: I'm come to find out. This is like it exploded
Speaker 1: into this huge thing.
Speaker 3: I knew, I just knew something was wrong.
Speaker 1: Police say thirty three year old Jared Bridigan was shot dead.
Speaker 3: I kept calling his phone during the drive.
Speaker 1: Gunned down in front of his two year old daughter.
Speaker 4: It's a murder of the stun jack speech neighbors.
Speaker 3: His murder has attracted national attention, with the investigators saying
Speaker 3: he was targeted. Eventually, a police officer answered and told
Speaker 3: me to come to the police station.
Speaker 4: Justice is something that takes different shapes reformed.
Speaker 2: If you know something, heard something, please it's never too
Speaker 2: late to.
Speaker 4: Do the right thing.
Speaker 1: So I'm Dana Thompson aka Body Movin, and.
Speaker 4: I'm John Green. For about a decade, Deanna and I
Speaker 4: spent a lot of time on the Internet, especially in
Speaker 4: the underbelly of the Internet, trying to identify and get
Speaker 4: animal abusers arrested.
Speaker 1: We spent countless hours scouring the dark web helping catch predators.
Speaker 1: We spent over a year and a half trying to
Speaker 1: get law enforcement to take us seriously about a man
Speaker 1: that was killing cats online and he was threatening to
Speaker 1: move on to kill humans. And that was Luca mcnatta.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you might have heard about the Netflix special called
Speaker 4: Don't Fuck with Cats.
Speaker 1: That's us. Well, now we're turning our online investigator skills
Speaker 1: to some of the most unexplained, unsolved, and just ignored cases.
Speaker 4: This is true Crimes, the production of iHeartRadio and Katie's Studios.
Speaker 3: I firmly believe that there are only three people outside
Speaker 3: of Jared who knew that that was his route, and
Speaker 3: that's myself, his ex's wife and her husband. No public statement,
Speaker 3: no please for help, nothing.
Speaker 2: Why do you think that is?
Speaker 3: Well, my opinion is they don't want it solved.
Speaker 1: I think we need to know more about Jared's previous marriage.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the relationship between Jared and his ex Donna Gardner
Speaker 4: Fernandez and her new husband, that needs to be looked
Speaker 4: at further. Kirsten made the point that only she, his
Speaker 4: ex wife, and her husband, would know the route he
Speaker 4: was traveling home, which makes Jared's divorce seem all the
Speaker 4: more crucial to understand.
Speaker 1: Especially with his murder happening right after Jared dropped their
Speaker 1: kids off at his ex wife's home.
Speaker 4: And of course you know there's also Shanna's new husband
Speaker 4: and his things he was doing to the neighbor's cats.
Speaker 1: Let's talk more about Jared, his ex wife, Shanna's relationship
Speaker 1: with Kirsten, and Jared's brother Adam. Can you tell me
Speaker 1: why they got divorced?
Speaker 3: In the court document, Shanna claims they just didn't love
Speaker 3: each other anymore. But and I'm sure you'll see this
Speaker 3: as you research it, she cheated on Jared with her
Speaker 3: personal trainer and when he confronted her about it after
Speaker 3: finding images between the two of them, she was just like, yep,
Speaker 3: I don't. I think she wanted to just get married
Speaker 3: because that's what her friends and her sisters were doing.
Speaker 3: But then when Jared gained a little bit of weight
Speaker 3: as he was trying to launch some businesses, she just
Speaker 3: she just I don't think she ever truly loved him
Speaker 3: and looked for and out and she found it and
Speaker 3: that was the end.
Speaker 1: Is the guy she married to, the guy that she
Speaker 1: had affair with, No, it is a different guy. Oh,
Speaker 1: different guy Okay. And does she have any.
Speaker 3: Other children, No, she just has the twins, boy girl twins.
Speaker 3: I'm Jared.
Speaker 1: Was there any fight over the children?
Speaker 3: Constant? This has been reported on pretty heavily in the media,
Speaker 3: So it was over everything and honestly, yes, legal battle,
Speaker 3: tech messages, emails. It was not amicable whatsoever.
Speaker 1: Did she want full clustody?
Speaker 3: Yeah, she had pushed her.
Speaker 2: That early on getting back when they went to the police.
Speaker 2: Have they lawyered up at all?
Speaker 3: They hired the top notch criminal offense attorney in the
Speaker 3: state of Florida. However, he and they claimed they got
Speaker 3: him to help keep the images of the children out
Speaker 3: of the media, which makes absolutely zero sense.
Speaker 2: She and his mom is.
Speaker 3: One of the founders of a very large craft company,
Speaker 3: and she runs the blogs like a pr blog, and
Speaker 3: Liam and Abbey are blasted all over that thing. So
Speaker 3: it's like, if she really cared about her kid's pictures
Speaker 3: not being on the internet, then why is her mom's
Speaker 3: blog up like that whole excuse? It just doesn't add up.
Speaker 1: Is it like a big company?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they pull in millions of dollars a year? Really, Yeah,
Speaker 3: the company, It's been reported that it's like one hundred
Speaker 3: million dollars.
Speaker 1: Does she work at all or she staying on mom.
Speaker 3: She was running at home bakery business. She has since
Speaker 3: apparently closed down that baking business. When Jared and Shanna
Speaker 3: were married, they were given a monthly stipend of over
Speaker 3: eight thousand dollars from her parents, and that is a
Speaker 3: common thing that they have done with all of their children.
Speaker 3: So when she sued for full custody and child support
Speaker 3: during the divorce, he counter sued for alimony, full custody,
Speaker 3: and child support. Didn't get any of that, so they
Speaker 3: basically walked away with neither of them paying each other
Speaker 3: anything and sharing fifty to fifty percent custody of the kids. However,
Speaker 3: when Shanna heard that Jared and I were getting married,
Speaker 3: she then sued him for child support, claiming that she
Speaker 3: was super poor. She showed up to court dress like
Speaker 3: she just shopped at Goodwill and found the frumpiest thing
Speaker 3: she could. Like, she did not look like herself, That's
Speaker 3: how I'll put it. Like usually she's in very tight
Speaker 3: fitting athletic wear, showing off her sleeve tattoo, like she's
Speaker 3: very proud of like her physique and her body art.
Speaker 3: She was not like that in court. I had never
Speaker 3: seen Shanna like that, and we ended up having to
Speaker 3: pay her child support for years. Shanna also has a
Speaker 3: pattern of her parents do not think she had an affair,
Speaker 3: So I think they were shocked when it came out
Speaker 3: in the media that the person that Shannon had the
Speaker 3: affair with confirmed that it actually happened. So I think
Speaker 3: that played into their anger of why Jared is getting
Speaker 3: money because they thought he was the bad guy and
Speaker 3: all of this, we're in reality, Shannon is the one
Speaker 3: that brought everything.
Speaker 1: To a head. Everything that I'm reading point is saying
Speaker 1: that the ex wife is You know what I do
Speaker 1: is I read a lot of the comments that are posted,
Speaker 1: and it looks like everybody in town where you live
Speaker 1: is like, it's ex wife. It's the ex wife. So
Speaker 1: John and I will look into that. Clear. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously there was a custody battle. We can get access
Speaker 1: to the records. I want to go through that.
Speaker 4: Let's stop here for a break.
Speaker 2: We'll be back in a moment.
Speaker 1: So let's go back to the cats for a one second.
Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, Mario Fernandez, who is married to Jared
Speaker 1: Bardigan's ex wife, Shanna Gardner. Fernandez was contacted by local
Speaker 1: police by to claim that he was killing neighborhood cats.
Speaker 1: So I dug into it a little bit, and this
Speaker 1: is the story. There was a neighborhood cat who was astray,
Speaker 1: and one of the neighbors took the stray in and
Speaker 1: named them Apollo. While Apollo one day in twenty eighteen
Speaker 1: turned up with like a bloody leg, and so the
Speaker 1: neighbor took Apollo to the vet and turns out that
Speaker 1: he had been shot with a little pelican. Mario Fernandez
Speaker 1: apparently admitted it to a neighbor that he was getting
Speaker 1: irritated by the neighborhood cats. They were making his dogs
Speaker 1: bark at night, so the neighbor called the police. The
Speaker 1: police came and Mario refused to turn over this pelican.
Speaker 1: Moving forward, I think it's going to be important to
Speaker 1: keep that in the back of our mind for now.
Speaker 1: We have a bunch of other avenues to go down.
Speaker 1: We just need to keep that filed away for now
Speaker 1: and come back to it later. While we continue to
Speaker 1: dig into Jared's life and the evidence surrounding his murder,
Speaker 1: were also looking into the disappearance of nineteen year old
Speaker 1: Chikaia blue hearting.
Speaker 4: Jakaya has been missing for more than four years and
Speaker 4: was last seen in July of twenty eighteen in Billings, Montana.
Speaker 4: Hikaya was staying at a local community center during the
Speaker 4: day called Tumbleweed.
Speaker 1: Unlike Jared's death, which has received a ton of national
Speaker 1: media coverage, Chikaia's case is the exact opposite.
Speaker 4: As an Indigenous woman, Shakaia's disappearance has almost been entirely ignored.
Speaker 1: Which is pretty standard, unfortunately, something that we're learning more about.
Speaker 4: No group of people are more at risk or received
Speaker 4: less support from law enforcement than Indigenous women.
Speaker 1: Chakaia Blue Harding.
Speaker 4: That is a beautiful name.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely gorgeous. Yeah, So for.
Speaker 4: Me as or for us as people who look into things,
Speaker 4: a name like this is very important.
Speaker 1: Well, it's gonna it's going to possess some problems, I know,
Speaker 1: and we're going.
Speaker 2: To talk about that.
Speaker 4: So when we use osent techniques, you know, usually it's
Speaker 4: a Google search most people use. So when you have
Speaker 4: a name like this, it's not ordinary, it's actually can
Speaker 4: be helpful and it can be not helpful. So especially
Speaker 4: the way it's spelled. It's not spelled in a traditional way,
Speaker 4: so that could help looking for information on this.
Speaker 1: Person because her name could be spelled incorrectly on like
Speaker 1: police reports. It could be spelled incorrectly on like Reddit threads.
Speaker 1: It can you know what I mean? Like, it could
Speaker 1: be spelled incorrectly on places that we would go look
Speaker 1: to find information. Montana right now, So she's missing from Billings, Montana.
Speaker 1: Oh God, she was gorgeous, right, see the pictures of her?
Speaker 4: She looks very young.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well she was nineteen when she went missing. Oh
Speaker 1: is that her mom?
Speaker 4: I think over the next couple of days, we're going
Speaker 4: to have to do some work on her own, figure
Speaker 4: out if there was any kind of foul play. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 4: the first thing we need to know is was an
Speaker 4: actual missing person's we work filed and if so, where
Speaker 4: was it filed? And is it still active? We need
Speaker 4: to get a better picture of who Shakaya.
Speaker 1: Is, and like Jared, let's start with the people who
Speaker 1: know her best.
Speaker 4: Fortunate for us, we get to talk to Shikaya's sister, Shawnee.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand they were really close. She'll be able
Speaker 1: to tell us a lot about who Shikaya is and
Speaker 1: who she was spending time with before she went missing. Hi, Shawnee, Right,
Speaker 1: I'm less sorry that your family's going through this, But yeah,
Speaker 1: we just want to We would just want to bring
Speaker 1: as much attention to Shakaia as possible. Obviously, we'd love
Speaker 1: to solve it, you know, that'd be ideal, and we'd
Speaker 1: love to be able to find her, but if barring that,
Speaker 1: we want to bring as much attention as possible as
Speaker 1: many eyes on her, right. And you know, we're not
Speaker 1: here to like judge or like retraumatize your family. We
Speaker 1: don't want to put you guys through any shit, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. We're not here for that. So
Speaker 1: if at any time, at any time, like if I
Speaker 1: have a question that you don't want to answer, or like,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you do want me to know, but
Speaker 1: you don't want it to be on the broadcast or whatever,
Speaker 1: just tell me, you know what I mean. I'm totally
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, and I'm speaking for John two. We're
Speaker 1: one hundred percent on your side, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We just want to like establish a relationship with you
Speaker 1: and like just tell us about Shakaia. Like I'm able
Speaker 1: to read about her on the internet, but that doesn't
Speaker 1: really tell me who she was outside of social media.
Speaker 1: I need to know, like a little bit about her,
Speaker 1: like what was she like? Did she have hobbies? What
Speaker 1: can you tell me about her?
Speaker 5: She's one of a cut She's stubborn, but she also
Speaker 5: always had like a big heart. Hi Kai aways had
Speaker 5: her own Chi Kai had her own type of humor.
Speaker 6: But she had long hair. She had a roundish space.
Speaker 5: She was not very tall.
Speaker 6: She was very beautiful. She was very constant.
Speaker 5: What did they call it, like a paradox. She loved
Speaker 5: to take care of herself, but she was very little maintenance.
Speaker 5: She loved the best makeup, but makeup wasn't important to her.
Speaker 5: Or she loved the bright lipstick, but only when she
Speaker 5: felt like it, never really cared about it or that
Speaker 5: was not her that she was very low maintenance.
Speaker 6: Chikai and I are about five years apart.
Speaker 5: We'd go just to kind of hang out with my friends.
Speaker 6: I'd like to listen to music together.
Speaker 5: Anything we can sing too. That's what we used to
Speaker 5: sing together. Not very great, but at least we tried.
Speaker 5: We like to pretend we can sing and sing together.
Speaker 5: I don't feel like it gets easier over time. She
Speaker 5: didn't want to be like everybody else. She wanted to
Speaker 5: be hers in her limited time. That she was here
Speaker 5: with us. You know, she felt comfortable in who she was.
Speaker 1: She knew who she was.
Speaker 5: She was just Shakaya.
Speaker 6: She's definitely a little firecracker. She was very goofy though.
Speaker 6: She liked to be a center of attention. So if
Speaker 6: she could make you laugh at being funny, she would
Speaker 6: do anything she could and make you laugh. If you
Speaker 6: were on her bad side, you were definitely on her
Speaker 6: bad side.
Speaker 1: I can tell you right now. We would have been
Speaker 1: friends one PC.
Speaker 6: So I raised her from when she was let's see,
Speaker 6: she had to be in sixth grade, so she had
Speaker 6: to be about twelve, so I can really say there's.
Speaker 3: Nobody like her.
Speaker 6: There's definitely one of a kind. Again, because she was
Speaker 6: just very she was very stubborn. But yeah, she did
Speaker 6: like to darance. Sometimes we'd go for car rides and
Speaker 6: she would we would sing together. My favorite moment with
Speaker 6: her had to be when I hit a note. I
Speaker 6: wasn't even expecting to hit and she just gave me
Speaker 6: that look like, oh my god. She loved She loved kids.
Speaker 3: She loved her.
Speaker 6: Nieces and nephews. She grew up more as a brother
Speaker 6: as a sister to our oldest son, So She's very
Speaker 6: close with him. Anybody that we were close to, she
Speaker 6: kind of mostly clung to our I guess she connected
Speaker 6: more with misunderstood kids. I'm assuming cup I'm assuming maybe
Speaker 6: because I don't know she was. She felt misunderstood, and
Speaker 6: I get that with the background that we have, Yeah,
Speaker 6: with the background that we have it, I can see that.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Did she have a nickname Blue? So that is that?
Speaker 1: Is that her middle name? Yes? Yeah, she'd be twenty three.
Speaker 2: Now, right she would be yes.
Speaker 1: Do you know like the circumstances like who does she
Speaker 1: talk to? How? How do we know that was the
Speaker 1: last day? Was she? Did she contact you? Or her
Speaker 1: mom or her cousin or so?
Speaker 6: She was in a place called Tumbleweed. How it started though,
Speaker 6: was just the family thing, where's like, hey, have have
Speaker 6: any of you heard from Chicaia? And we kind of
Speaker 6: started going down our list of everybody that she would
Speaker 6: be with. Have you heard from her? Have you heard
Speaker 6: from her? And nobody? And it was kind of going
Speaker 6: back to like a few like three weeks before the
Speaker 6: last time anybody saw her. So she wasn't reported till August, right,
Speaker 6: So we started kind of digging around and doing our
Speaker 6: own investigation because it wasn't really to us. It felt
Speaker 6: like it wasn't really kicking off as much as we
Speaker 6: wanted it to. So we started going around and looking.
Speaker 6: But really it kind of came down to my niece Chakana,
Speaker 6: who had all of her passwords and access to her
Speaker 6: social media, and the last log in that she had
Speaker 6: on social media was the twenty.
Speaker 2: Third, the night of the twenty third, I guess I
Speaker 2: have a question regarding that. So we were reading through
Speaker 2: she was making a lot of posts on that day.
Speaker 2: How would she have accessed how would she have accessed
Speaker 2: Facebook to make those posts?
Speaker 6: There was like a week period of where she had
Speaker 6: my mother's phone. She also had access I'm assuming at Tumbleweed,
Speaker 6: and then I know she had been to the library
Speaker 6: quite a few times to access Supposedly, she goes missing
Speaker 6: July twenty third, Your.
Speaker 2: Family hasn't been really in touch with her, so your
Speaker 2: you guys don't really realize right away in July, and
Speaker 2: then you guys, first sometime in August, you guys realize, Hey,
Speaker 2: she's missing. I believe sometime in August your mom goes
Speaker 2: to the police to file a missing person to report.
Speaker 2: Correct and who did she file that with.
Speaker 6: That would be Billings police.
Speaker 2: So she files it with the Billings Belief Police in
Speaker 2: August and August September. For three months, it just sits
Speaker 2: on somebody's desk.
Speaker 6: Until a Yellowstone County Oh my gosh, Yellowstone County detective
Speaker 6: picked it up. It was never hand to see him,
Speaker 6: was never he just found it. He literally just found
Speaker 6: it lying on a.
Speaker 1: Desk and that was a deective Fritz, Is that right.
Speaker 2: That's one of the things that we're hearing about, is
Speaker 2: like when there's different law enforcement agencies, there's like a
Speaker 2: complete lack of communication, and that's why a lot of
Speaker 2: these girls go missing because it just sits on somebody's desk.
Speaker 2: And that's the shit that pisses Deanna.
Speaker 1: And I do you know she was enrolled in the
Speaker 1: North Cheyenne Tribe.
Speaker 6: Right northern Chaney, So I thought.
Speaker 1: That when an Indigenous woman went missing, the FEDS would
Speaker 1: get involved at some point, but that.
Speaker 6: Only they are supposed to. But that doesn't always happen.
Speaker 6: She wasn't actually even added to the database.
Speaker 1: See here's the thing. Her social media presence just totally stopped,
Speaker 1: like just stopped. And she doesn't seem like the type
Speaker 1: of a type of girl that would just stop on
Speaker 1: social media.
Speaker 6: She's not. That's why. That was another reason why as well,
Speaker 6: when we're like, hey, she's not even on any type
Speaker 6: of social media. Again, she kind of had her logins
Speaker 6: and so she could see when she was last on
Speaker 6: and again that was July twenty third, and we haven't
Speaker 6: seen or anything right her.
Speaker 1: So she's being she's she's in a place where she
Speaker 1: can't post, right, She's in a situation where she doesn't
Speaker 1: have access to talk to anybody. So for her to
Speaker 1: just stop like that doesn't make me think she ran away?
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? So I that wasn't even an
Speaker 1: option that I went down, Like, there's no way this
Speaker 1: girl got on a bus and just ran away. Let's
Speaker 1: stop here for another quick break.
Speaker 4: So I came across a Facebook page called bring Hikaya
Speaker 4: Harding Blue Home.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's where her family's active is on Facebook, right.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, so it looks like this Facebook page was
Speaker 4: last active in December of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: John, I set up the discord server. Discord server is
Speaker 1: just like a communications tool, right, It's like a chat room.
Speaker 1: And the reason I use discord is because you can
Speaker 1: organize it. You can organize it and pin things and
Speaker 1: send in for me and create threads, and it's just
Speaker 1: like a little chat room slash forum, I guess is
Speaker 1: the best way to do it.
Speaker 4: It's a good way to manage information and have it
Speaker 4: in one central place that people can share it and
Speaker 4: look into. So that's one of the tools we use.
Speaker 4: Previously when we would work on animal cases. We primarily
Speaker 4: use Facebook because back ten years ago, Facebook was the
Speaker 4: social media everybody used. But in this day and age,
Speaker 4: we use other tools like discord.
Speaker 1: I found a harding blue Shakaya. She lives in Fort Riley, Kansas.
Speaker 1: Her last post was July twenty fourth, twenty eighteen. I
Speaker 1: will throw the link into discords poop. So that's a
Speaker 1: situation where the name is spelled differently. This is like
Speaker 1: one of the problems that we're going to run into. Luckily,
Speaker 1: I am who I am. I can do whatever that
Speaker 1: we know I can do. Ratshet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So the days leading up to her missing, she
Speaker 4: was quite active on social media. Wait wait, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 4: what's the date?
Speaker 1: July twenty fourth, twenty eighteen, So the day after she
Speaker 1: went missing, right, she posted on the day after she
Speaker 1: reportedly went missing at ten o'clock at night, like a
Speaker 1: minute prior, she posted I'm not sure what that means.
Speaker 1: Reputation is a hard thing to keep when all you
Speaker 1: do is publicly entertaining and the popular have the votes
Speaker 1: on how to make it. I guess I care what
Speaker 1: you think. I wish you could see nothing. Very coded,
Speaker 1: very coded.
Speaker 4: Sounds like maybe there's a love interest involved.
Speaker 1: Perhaps. Yeah. I'm at home right now, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to start digging into Chakaia's socials and the find Shakaya
Speaker 1: facebook page because like, I really feel like people will
Speaker 1: leave like tips on that page. And it's also possible
Speaker 1: that people maybe that might have been involved in her
Speaker 1: disappearance may leave commons to try to mislead people, because
Speaker 1: that does happen. I'm not saying it did happen here,
Speaker 1: but it's definitely something I want to look at just
Speaker 1: in case.
Speaker 4: Whenever we're looking for a person in particular, one of
Speaker 4: the first things I try to do is to see
Speaker 4: if that person is currently in custody, meaning in jail
Speaker 4: or prison. Fifty States a lot of prisons in jails.
Speaker 4: But luckily there's a website called Vinelink dot com that
Speaker 4: let you search across all fifty states. Vine is the
Speaker 4: nation's most reliable and confidential confidential source for updated custody
Speaker 4: status and criminal case information. Name search by name KaiA,
Speaker 4: last name Harding and see if she's in custody. I
Speaker 4: am not a robot, okay. I passed that no persons.
Speaker 4: There are no matches. That's good for the information we
Speaker 4: were given. Chicaia was last seen sometime at the end
Speaker 4: of July, either July twenty third or twenty fifth and Billings, Montana.
Speaker 4: Apparently she was staying at a center called the Tumbleweed
Speaker 4: Runaway Center. So I'm looking up where that is and
Speaker 4: just kind of getting an idea of what it is
Speaker 4: and what they offer. Tumbleweedprogram dot org twenty four hour
Speaker 4: hotline crisis about Tumbleweed overview. Tumbleweed meets at risk youth
Speaker 4: and young adult adults where they are and strives to
Speaker 4: create a continuum of care CEOC, making space for hope
Speaker 4: and opportunity. Founded in nineteen seventy six, Tumbleweed is a nonprofit,
Speaker 4: community based agency serving at risk youth and their families
Speaker 4: and support systems. So Shakaya may have been at a
Speaker 4: place in her life where she needed assistance from her community.
Speaker 4: Looks like Tumbleweed was her place of comfort for a while.
Speaker 4: I wonder if somebody there would be willing to talk
Speaker 4: with us, if they're still working there and knew of her.
Speaker 4: So it's good that there are places like this in
Speaker 4: the community for people who need help, so hopefully we
Speaker 4: can reach out to them and talk to them.
Speaker 1: Okay. So she reportedly went missing on July twenty third,
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, but in the evening of July twenty fourth,
Speaker 1: she made eleven posts from nine to ten, basically I'll
Speaker 1: die young. On July twenty second, the day before she
Speaker 1: went missing, she posted I'll die young before I spend
Speaker 1: my whole life here on this earth. And then, like
Speaker 1: a bunch of selfies, I'm just looking for people. She's
Speaker 1: like interacting with quite a bit. Doesn't really have a
Speaker 1: lot of interaction. One person that pops up quite a
Speaker 1: bit is I'll just call him Eric. Well, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: set him aside. And Eric spells his name uniquely, so
Speaker 1: that's another galvanizing issue. Let me go through his shit
Speaker 1: real quick. Oh. July eleventh, twenty seventeen, he changed his
Speaker 1: profile picture to a picture of him in Chikaia and
Speaker 1: her other profile liked it. Let me get a look
Speaker 1: at that? Or shared it? Oh, she shared it. Let's
Speaker 1: go look Chikaia Haunt one of her aliases, haunting. He's
Speaker 1: gotta be somebody I can pull aside here. His last
Speaker 1: post was July twenty fifth, twenty seventeen, so about eleven
Speaker 1: months before Shokaia went missing. They clearly had some sort
Speaker 1: of relationship. She shared his picture saying that he missed
Speaker 1: she missed him. In February fifteenth, twenty and eighteen, she
Speaker 1: posted a photo with the Eric Fella and it says
Speaker 1: missing ugly and it's picture of them too. He liked it.
Speaker 1: So they were definitely hanging out as late as February
Speaker 1: of twenty and eighteen, and that would have been four
Speaker 1: months prior to her disappearance. So she took a photo
Speaker 1: with Eric on November thirtieth, and she shared it in January,
Speaker 1: so like three months later, and it's captioned Nina Nina,
Speaker 1: Nina and her mother, Tamera Bear comes out said Chikaia
Speaker 1: Blue Mom loves you, please call me, so she might
Speaker 1: have been. That was January twenty eight so six days later, okay,
Speaker 1: six days later, her mom posts, Hikaya, please call me.
Speaker 1: So there was apparently some time when Shakaya was you know,
Speaker 1: this must have been one of the times Shaikaia was
Speaker 1: in and out of the house. Okay, so she put.
Speaker 1: She shared a photo she made her profile picture her
Speaker 1: and Eric on January twenty first, twenty eighteen, and I
Speaker 1: can I know it's Eric because of his tattoos, because
Speaker 1: his face is not shown. It's another reason. You got
Speaker 1: to get familiar with the people they're surrounding themselves with
Speaker 1: in several photos if you can, because sometimes you know,
Speaker 1: there'll just be some context clues, and the tattoos are
Speaker 1: one thing that you can identify somebody by. She shared
Speaker 1: one of his photos on November thirtieth, and it said
Speaker 1: I missed this mirror that he broke and never replaced
Speaker 1: like he said he would. I knew he wouldn't. It
Speaker 1: couldn't be that too hard to lie about a mirror
Speaker 1: when he lied every motherfucking time he told me he
Speaker 1: loved me. What happened to him being a man of
Speaker 1: your word? You aren't a man at all. You's a
Speaker 1: fuck boy fucking with little girls and restion insnship just
Speaker 1: for some high voltage frequencies that you know nothing about.
Speaker 1: Thought you could come to good old Montana and run shit. Huh,
Speaker 1: Well we packed bigger artillery than what you guys call
Speaker 1: an imaginary. Well you got done in by your phony
Speaker 1: x ass ex fiance. When I seen her reaction to
Speaker 1: my post about our unborn child, I should have known.
Speaker 1: Fuck you, Eric, you ain't nothing, but I want to be.
Speaker 1: You're such a good for nothing you wish you were
Speaker 1: shit rock bottom ass bitch. I didn't do love you though. Okay,
Speaker 1: so they got pregnant. So on Eric Galvin's page, he
Speaker 1: has his photos wide open and he takes the tons
Speaker 1: as selfies. Right, And there was a photo of him
Speaker 1: wearing like a black shirt that I was talking about,
Speaker 1: And he created a new profile and it's named Eric
Speaker 1: Matthew and his profile picture is of him in that
Speaker 1: black shirt. Little shit thought he could get one over me.
Speaker 6: Eh.
Speaker 1: It's important because I'm gonna eventually end up looking at
Speaker 1: inmate records. Right, so we have three profiles for Eric
Speaker 1: right now? Why does he have so many profiles? Initially
Speaker 1: it makes me think, like what are they running from?
Speaker 1: Kind of thing, like they don't want people to find
Speaker 1: them but it could also just mean that he doesn't
Speaker 1: have a stable email addressed and I forgot his password
Speaker 1: to his other accounts. You know, it doesn't necessarily make
Speaker 1: him guilty of anything. It just makes my spidy senses
Speaker 1: kind of I might be traumatized because a Luca, and
Speaker 1: I'm willing to admit that.
Speaker 4: Year ago is when things were kind of really stopped
Speaker 4: progressing and there weren't any more Facebook posts or things
Speaker 4: talking about it. So in my mind, that's pretty concerning.
Speaker 4: A person goes missing four years ago and there's not
Speaker 4: a lot of new information that makes you start wondering,
Speaker 4: is this person still alive, or if they are still alive,
Speaker 4: how come nobody see them? How is Shakaia able to
Speaker 4: disappear like this? She doesn't seem in twenty eighteen like
Speaker 4: she was in a position where she had the means
Speaker 4: to travel or anything like that. Eminacy If there is
Speaker 4: something larger than just this one case of Shakaia, are
Speaker 4: there other women who have gone missing in this area?
Speaker 4: And maybe that's the way we need to look at it.
Speaker 4: Maybe there's something more sinister at play than just one
Speaker 4: young girl going missing. Maybe there's multiple girls, and maybe
Speaker 4: there's something bigger that needs to be looked into. That's
Speaker 4: my goal for today, So drinking my first cup of
Speaker 4: coffee for today. So I think it's going to be
Speaker 4: an interesting new way. I definitely think that people have
Speaker 4: all looked at it the same way, and we need
Speaker 4: to find a different approach and see if there's another reason.
Speaker 4: It seems like the idea that Shakaya may may have
Speaker 4: been taken, is being trafficked in the sex trade, could
Speaker 4: be a possibility. I mean, it's been four years and
Speaker 4: nobody's seen her. I want to find out if there's
Speaker 4: some kind of connection to that.
Speaker 1: Already we are finding names and information about her last
Speaker 1: few months before she disappeared.
Speaker 4: Especially the connection to a possible man who could have
Speaker 4: fathered a child with her, and other men Shakaia was
Speaker 4: talking to or had connections with. And let's be honest,
Speaker 4: in the case of a missing woman, we have to
Speaker 4: start with the men involved. We need to know more
Speaker 4: about the last few days and weeks before Shakaia disappeared.
Speaker 1: Was she making money in any way? Do you know, like,
Speaker 1: was she working?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 6: See that's another thing though, too, is that Rico Wallace,
Speaker 6: So we were told that she was a victim of sex trafficking.
Speaker 2: I'm in southern California, and I know the law enforcement
Speaker 2: and the sex trade is very big here. And like
Speaker 2: in California or in the West Coast, they talk about
Speaker 2: the circuit girls go from San Francisco Bay area, the Stockton,
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles, the veenis the Las Vegas and then
Speaker 2: active there is there a circuit like that up in
Speaker 2: that area or do you think she may be in
Speaker 2: that West coast.
Speaker 6: From Washington to here to Colorado, Colorado.
Speaker 2: I think it is, so there's a circuit for girls
Speaker 2: in that area.
Speaker 6: We were told that Rico runs part of that circuit
Speaker 6: between Washington here, San Jose, I know it's southern Los
Speaker 6: Angeles for sure, and Phoenix. And we've also had a
Speaker 6: few sightings in Phoenix.
Speaker 2: We're trying to filter through what's real, what's not real,
Speaker 2: what we should look at, what we shouldn't, And that's
Speaker 2: why we wanted to talk to you right away as
Speaker 2: soon as possible, so we could like filter through all this,
Speaker 2: get all the noise out of the way.
Speaker 3: And say that's what's important.
Speaker 2: Just hearing about this Rico guy, now I'm understanding like
Speaker 2: this seems like a very important person.
Speaker 1: More on that next time.
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