1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. Friday edition of The Clay Travis en Buck 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Sexton Show kicks off right now. A beautiful Friday in 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: Trump's America. Things going very well, a solid week in 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Trump well, a solid week for Catholics around the world 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: who have a new Pope, Leo the fourteen. Some people 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: are saying the best of all the Leo's or among 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: the very best Leos. 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: Chicago White Sox fan. Buck. Remember I was asking yesterday 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: like he is evidently a diehard Chicago White Sox fan. 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: There's all these articles now about that. So I love 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: the new Pope. 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: Yes, the new post guy, maybe the first pope ever, 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: A big fan of deep Dish pizza. And we are 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: excited for what this means for the flock and for 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: the throne of Saint Peter and all of the great 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: stuff that is hopefully going to come from his leadership 17 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: for the church, for the billion plus Catholics around the world. 18 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: So we've got a lot to dive into today, and 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: it's a Friday, so we want to do a lot 20 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: of calls, a lot of talkbacks from all of you. 21 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: You know how to do those talkbacks. The iHeart app, 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: which all of you should have on your phone. It 23 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: is free. It is a fantastic app. You can listen 24 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: to the show, you can listen on demand to our 25 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: podcast network, and you can use a little microphone on 26 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: the Clay and Buck page for talkback purposes. So send 27 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: those to us. Some really interesting stories to dive into. 28 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: Clay is bringing me up to speed on some big 29 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: stuff in the sports world. He'll bring that to you 30 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: later on with the transgender sports issue. And Charles Barkley, 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: noted analyst and man who says what is on his mind, 32 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: has said something about the trans sports issue which will 33 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: get some of our attention in just a little bit. Also, 34 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: got to tell you about the guest lineup we have 35 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: because we are stacked small business administrations. Kelly Leffler, our 36 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: friend David Rutherford, former Navy seal, member of the Clay 37 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: and Buck podcast network. Talk to him about what's going 38 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: on with the Pentagon these days and other issues of note. 39 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: Also Steve Hilton third hour. He's running for governor in California. 40 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: We like Steve Hilton, very smart guy, got a cool accent, 41 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: so he's got that going for him, which is nice. 42 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: And we'll talk to him in just a little bit 43 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: about that, so a bunch of guests and a lot 44 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: of big stories to dive into. First up, we had 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: Ed Martin on the program yesterday. Very impressive guy. And 46 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: it's already been announced. Okay, he's not going to be 47 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: the US attorney for DC. He's going to have a 48 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: senior role at DOJ looking at weaponization of DJ. So 49 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: this is something that I think will be very important 50 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: to the administration and it's a good place for Ed 51 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: Martin to be. Judge Janine Piro has been named. So 52 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: I did make the reference on exclay. It is as 53 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: though the Libs got to choose the form of their destructor. 54 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: It was a very good analogy. I saw you shared that, 55 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: Thank you, and it is very funny. 56 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: They were hoping for something less terrifying than Ed Martin, 57 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: and we present you with Judge Janine, who I think 58 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: is going to make the deep State Libs quake in 59 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: their little tiny boots. So this is a good thing. 60 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. This is also where I think Trump excels is 61 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 2: when he doesn't get the person that he wants, he 62 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: usually finds somebody that is going to drive people even 63 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: crazier than the person that he initially wanted. And so 64 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: Judge Janine has been a prosecutor. She obviously is incredibly 65 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: skilled as it could to judge, and Judge has been 66 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: very successful in her time at Fox News. And I 67 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: don't know has there been a report about how long 68 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: she wants to do this job. I know she's leaving 69 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: Fox News. But the real reason here that the action 70 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: is taking place is if it wasn't decided by May twentieth, 71 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: then there would be some authority with Democrats having a 72 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: say in the who the chief law enforcement officer in 73 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: DC would be. So this is the timing behind it. 74 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: Well, I think US attorneys can last one hundred and 75 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: twenty days as an interm us attorney, that's right. And 76 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: what I like is these interm us attorneys look at 77 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: Ed Martin. They're going in there with a mission and 78 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: they're going after it right away. So there's a lot 79 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: even if she only stayed for four months, I think 80 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: there's a lot that could be done. And I wonder 81 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: what this is going to mean for those who, well 82 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: Tom Tillis wouldn't come on the show. The senator we asked, 83 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: we said, please explain to us why you think that 84 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: believing in the rights of j six defendants, makes you 85 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: not okay to be a US attorney. He would not 86 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,119 Speaker 1: do that, So I don't know. I think I smell 87 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: I think I smell someone being a little chicken. But 88 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: he wouldn't come on the show, and we are going 89 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: to continue to follow that story. I also though, would 90 00:04:54,400 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: say on the legal front, big news with the FB. 91 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: It's funny. 92 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: Yesterday we have the Pope Leo the fourteenth biggest story 93 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: of the day, no question. We're waiting for the name 94 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: gets announced. But Clay, while that's going on, the news 95 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: breaks that Leticia James, the Attorney General of New York, 96 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: the second largest blue state in the country. She who 97 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: went after Trump with the full force of her office 98 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: in a clear politicized weaponization of her office and the 99 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,239 Speaker 1: powers therein. She is now facing a full up blown 100 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: FBI investigation and she was confronted at a town hall 101 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: after that news broke. Here is the New York State 102 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: ag play one. My question is for James, will you 103 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: apologize to President Trump for wasting millions of dollars and 104 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: the state of New York for a witch trial? 105 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: And how does it feel to know that you are 106 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 3: you will be imprisoned from. 107 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 2: Mortgage for. 108 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 4: Thank you for coming. We want to thank him for 109 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 4: I mean, we respect all opinions. Everybody knows those allegations 110 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 4: are baseless, they're discredited, and so we want to thank him. 111 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 2: I love this guy, I love this guy Buck. 112 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: But she says they're discredited. 113 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 5: I know. 114 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: This is what they always say when they're caught, right, 115 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: this is what the Democrats always go to. Who says 116 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: they're discredited. I would I haven't seen even ABC and 117 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: New York Times, the usual suspects. I haven't seen anyone 118 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: say this is all a fabrication, and that means that 119 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: there are documents that indicate there's a problem here. I 120 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: think her best defense actually her best public defense and 121 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: her legal defense. 122 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: And we talked a lot about this during Trump. Sometimes 123 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: those are the same, sometimes they're different. Her best public 124 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: defense is, oh, this is just them coming after me 125 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: because I went after Trump. Okay, that's a public defense, 126 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 2: it's not a legal defense. Her best legal defense, based 127 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 2: on the research I have done, is there may be 128 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: multiple forms that she has filled out. Some of them 129 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: she others of them she did not lie on, and 130 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: therefore she may be able to argue. Again, this is 131 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: me putting on my criminal defense attorney hat she may 132 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: be able to argue that this was not a crime 133 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: because there's evidence that she did not lie in other documents. Now, 134 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: that's not a good defense. Not a good defense. I'm 135 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: just saying, if I were her criminal defense attorney, there's 136 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: sometimes a difference between public defense and actual legal defense. 137 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: Public defense of Trump hates me, and this is why 138 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: I'm being looked at, is not actually a legal defense. 139 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 2: The document defense that I trotted out potentially could be one. 140 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: Okay, So on that document defense, though, did she get 141 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: the rate that you would get if you was your 142 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: primary residence because of the question two? You know, then 143 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: it's really hard to say, well, there's one document that 144 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: I did the right way. 145 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: One I did the wrong way. 146 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: Okay, but you got the benefit for the wrong way 147 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: and should have known that. You should have been aware 148 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: of that. I think one of the way you wouldn't know. Clay. 149 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: You sit down, have you when was the last time 150 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: you did you did a mortgage for a house. It's 151 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: been a long time. We moved in here ten years ago, right, okay, 152 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: So remember you sit there. There's you gotta have the uh, well, 153 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: what do you call the people that have to check 154 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: the signatures. You know, the notaries. Notary, thank you. You 155 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: got to sit there with a notary. You got to 156 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: show your ID, you got to sign every page. You 157 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: got to sign the page that says you signed the page. 158 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: You got to sign the page it says you read 159 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: the signature over and over again. 160 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: She's a lawyer. 161 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: So the I messed up on the documents and the 162 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: outcome was the one that was favorable to me. I 163 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: think that's that's the key. 164 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people who sit on a 165 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: jury might be willing to believe that you screwed up 166 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: on a document when you're going through and filling them out. 167 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: But it's awfully convenient that each time that you screwed 168 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 2: up on the document, it benefited you, And I think 169 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: a lot of people sit back. If I were the prosecutor, 170 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: I would sit down. I would say, Letitia James, you 171 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: are a lawyer. You understand the significance of filling out 172 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: forms under the color of law. Isn't it convenient that 173 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: you managed to incorrectly fill out the forms multiple times 174 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: for multiple different mortgages in ways that personally benefited you. 175 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: You didn't screw up in a way that hurt you. 176 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: Well, yes, or that was irrelevant, right, This is yeah, 177 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,239 Speaker 1: this is also true in any perjury. This is effectively 178 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: a perjury situation, and in any case where there's perjure, 179 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: where there's alleged perjury, right, it's is it material? 180 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: Is it material to? 181 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 5: You know? 182 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: People will say, well, what if I say that I 183 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: had cheerios yesterday, but I actually had, you know, fruit 184 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: loops or something that they don't usually do perjury if 185 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: it's immaterial to what they're asking about, right, if it's 186 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: if it could be now that's up the discretion of 187 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: the prosecutor. But the way it's supposed to go, it's 188 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: not so minor that it's irrelevant. 189 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: Right. 190 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: A spelling error on a mortgage document can't get you 191 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: locked up. If she got better rates, then that's something 192 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: that you know. Then that again throws the document judgment 193 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: into or document error into I think a harder position. 194 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: But to your point about how she's gonna run this 195 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: if they do bring a charge, which we'll see, I'm 196 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: not sure they have the uh the uh courage toutspah. Yes, yeah, yes, 197 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm not sure they have the courage to do so. 198 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: But if they were to do so I think she's 199 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: just going to her defense will just be this is 200 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: all just Trump payback. It won't even really matter that much. 201 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: And hope that she can get people on the jury 202 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: who will say, now, will she take it to a jury, 203 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: will she get a plead deal, will she even be charged? 204 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: Those are all outstanding questions. But her waving her hand 205 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: and saying these are discredited allegations, No, I don't think so. 206 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything that discredits them. She to your point, Clay, 207 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: she may have a defense, that's not the same thing 208 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: as this is a fabrication, which is what a discredited 209 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: allegation would be. 210 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: No doubt. And I do love I don't want to 211 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: underserver or under praise that guy. I love the reaction 212 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: to him, whoever that guy is. And it wouldn't shock 213 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: me if he's listening right now, to go into the 214 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:07,359 Speaker 2: lions in there and ask that question and have everybody 215 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: just react in anger and derision. Was so great. The 216 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: audio is phenomenal. I'm sure the video is also fantastic. 217 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 2: So why was he credit out? 218 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: Why does security escort you? He just asked a question, 219 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: was why is she allowed to be escorted out? On 220 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: what basis, he's not disturbing the piece, he's not causing 221 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: an undue, rushing good question. He asked a completely valid question, 222 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: and I believe security, meaning the police had him removed. 223 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they would argue it was for his own security. 224 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what the crowd looked like. 225 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: I don't know what the crowd's reaction to him was. 226 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 2: Were they closing in on him? But that in and 227 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 2: of itself is a very good question. I actually think again, 228 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: the discredited answer is a good one. I didn't think 229 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: Letitia James handled it poorly in terms of the way 230 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: that that plays out. Like she gets to make her 231 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: argument that it's not true, and she says he has 232 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: a right to make that argument even if we know 233 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: it's not true. 234 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: Police escorted him out. I don't understand why police should 235 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: be escorting a man out who asks a valid question 236 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: out of town hall. He wasn't refusing to comply or 237 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: let her speak anyway. 238 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 2: It is a good question. My bet would be that 239 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: they would argue that he was in peril. But if 240 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: he didn't want to leave, then he shouldn't be forced 241 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: to leave. There's nothing wrong with the question that he 242 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: asked what he's gonna be. 243 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: He's gonna be mobbed by a bunch of blue haired communists. 244 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: Who I don't know what rond was. I mean, first 245 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 2: of all, who shows up at a Was this a 246 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: public forum with the New York Attorney General? Can you 247 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 2: think of a more boring way to spend the night? 248 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: I mean, in all seriousness, I understand they have these 249 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: town halls and everything else, but the I don't even 250 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 2: know why the attorney general. I guess she's democratically elected, 251 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: so maybe she feels compelled to do these town halls. 252 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 2: But it actually, to me makes it look like you 253 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: are engaged, as she is, in direct response to the public, 254 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: which is why a lot of Attorney generals are not 255 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 2: elected to statewide office, because they're supposed to be above 256 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: the fray. 257 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: You know, when you've got kids under your roof, you 258 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: don't play around with your protection. I'm just a few 259 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: weeks into fatherhood. Clay's an old hand at this. He's 260 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: got three boys. We know you are the one who 261 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: has to be first and foremost protecting your family at 262 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: all costs at all times. Saber is the number one 263 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: pepper spray brand trusted by law enforcement, and they have 264 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: a whole slew of fantastic non lethal personal and home 265 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: defense products that I really want you to go check out. 266 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: I wish there were as many home invasions. I wish 267 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: there were as many crazies in some parts of this 268 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: country as there are. But you need to be prepared 269 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: to defend yourself and your family, and Saber does that 270 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: for you. 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Find it on the 289 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 290 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Play Travis Buck Sexton Show Buck. I 291 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: don't know if you you have seen all this talk, 292 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: but I know we talked about the Jake Tapper Alex 293 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: Thompson book that is coming out. Scott Jennings said on 294 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: CNN the other day, I don't think maybe we can 295 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: grab this audio that Democrats are ready to reap the 296 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: whirlwind of what's going to come from this book. It 297 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: makes me think that a lot of people have already 298 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: read it. It hasn't been released yet, but you know 299 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: how this works when you're writing a book. You know, 300 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: people blurb it, they get to look at it early. 301 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: And maybe we need to get Scott Jennings on again 302 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: to talk about this on some level. And of course 303 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: Scott is CNN's resident non moron on their evening telecasts 304 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: who defends sanity. How much do you think if at all. 305 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: Biden going around now and trying to do the view 306 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: is in some ways a pre buddle to what they 307 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: know is coming. There's also talk, and I hadn't really 308 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: thought about this, that the Trump team could be prepared 309 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: to release the Robert her audio. Remember they gave us 310 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: a transcript. I think that's a no brainer. Do you 311 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: agree to go ahead and release the audio? The audio 312 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 2: should have been out before, but that seems like it 313 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: must be a calamity for Biden that they never released 314 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: it in the first place. 315 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever they can to show the scale of the 316 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: cover up, because these same individuals who sold their integrity 317 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: and their souls to cover up for dementia. Riddle, Biden 318 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: now want to tell you about, you know, the Trump 319 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: stock market and what's going to happen with the border 320 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: and the same people they want you to have faith 321 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: in them, the so called journalists, and they were almost 322 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: to a person complicit in this, right. You know, they'll 323 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: they'll they'll point out one guy and by the way, 324 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: I'm not impressed. This is why I don't know, should 325 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: we even have the people on that wrote the book, 326 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: you know, one of them's anyway, I'm not gonna get 327 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: into it. I'm not impressed with Oh, but I I asked, 328 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: like a couple of questions about questions. You and I 329 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: are making jokes about carrying around a dead body pretending 330 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: it's alive, and weekend at Bernie's, and they're asking questions. 331 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: I mean, this is absurd. I also think, because we 332 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 2: do get this question, why does this matter? Biden's not 333 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 2: president anymore. I think it matters because it devalues and 334 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: delegitimizes the legacy media that might try to attack Trump. 335 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: Well, that's what I mean that this is why we 336 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: should everything should come out, the scale, the scope of 337 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: the cover up and the lies. They were all complicit 338 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: in this. These are the people who will How dare 339 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: you have questions about the election? You're an insurrectionist all. 340 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: I wonder what the I wonder what the crossover is 341 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: clay of people who use the term the insurrection about 342 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: January sixth and also covered up Biden having dementia, the 343 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: commander in chief, the guy with the nuclear codes. 344 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: It's an overlapping Vinn diagram. It's one circle. But I 345 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 2: do think that's the important part here, is it delegitimizes 346 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 2: them massively. It's why we have to continue to cover 347 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 2: this story because any of their attacks on Trump are devalued. 348 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: As a result. NonStop action this week in both the 349 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: NBA and the NHL. 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Kelly 364 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: Lefler been all traveling all over the country as part 365 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 2: of Small Business Week, and Kelly I just want to 366 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 2: kind of hee you up here right off the top, 367 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: how do you see based on your travels and the 368 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: data that you have access to, small business is clearly 369 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: the engine that drives, by and large, the American economy 370 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: is not huge businesses. Actually, it's all the dynamics small 371 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: businesses out there that are so incredibly important. What are 372 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,719 Speaker 2: you seeing on your travels and how would you assess 373 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: the overall economic status of the country right now? 374 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 5: Well, you're absolutely right. Small businesses are not only the backbone, 375 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 5: but there's the economic engine of this great nation. It's 376 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 5: ninety nine percent of all businesses across this country. So 377 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 5: it's incredibly humbling to be the cabinet level person advocating 378 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 5: within the Trump administration for small business. And there is 379 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 5: no stronger champion for small business and President Trump he 380 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 5: always says, Kelly, small business is big business. And I've 381 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 5: seen that as I traveled across the country. I was 382 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 5: everywhere from Boise, Idaho, to Phoenix, Arizona, to Nashville this week. 383 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 5: But every week I'm out with small business and there's 384 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 5: tremendous optimism thanks to President Trump's pro business, pro growth 385 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 5: agenda to lower taxes, get rid of regulation, get red 386 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 5: tape out of the way, and obviously what we do 387 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 5: is we provide capital, which is a lifeblood of businesses. 388 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: Kelly, thanks for being here with us. There's some that 389 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: I know in the small business community who are all 390 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: supportive when it comes to the Trump tariffs, what he's 391 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: trying to accomplish, and they think it will benefit them 392 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: long term. But I have heard concerns about short term 393 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: supply shock, you know, that could hit in the next 394 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: few months, for example, because of particularly what's going on 395 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: with China, right that's where there's some issue. Are you 396 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: seeing any reason for concern when it comes to supply 397 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: shock that could affect a lot of businesses that rely 398 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: on some of those imports, And if so, what do 399 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 1: you think can be done to kind of mitigate that 400 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: so we can get to the other side where the 401 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: trade deals are in and things are booming. 402 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's an important question. Look, there's going to be 403 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 5: a period of adjustment and the President it's been very 404 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 5: clear about that. And as we talk with small businesses, 405 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 5: that concern is far outweighed by the opportunities that they 406 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 5: see to finally have fair trade. So when you hear 407 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 5: the word tariff, think fair trade, and restoring what we 408 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 5: used to have in this country, which was a reliable 409 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 5: supply chain that obviously got hollowed out. We lost seventy 410 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 5: thousand manufacturing plants, five million jobs. So at the SBA, 411 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 5: what we're trying to do is create a connection between 412 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 5: supply chains, manufacturers to onshore. We're going to be providing 413 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 5: those connections to small businesses so that they can have 414 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 5: alternatives to where they're importing from China. If they've built 415 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 5: their businesses around Chinese Communist Party manufacturing, we have to 416 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 5: make sure we bring that back. But it's already being 417 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 5: done in America, everything from aerospace to Saks to microchips 418 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 5: and beyond. Like we're already doing this. The left wing 419 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 5: media narrative is that we can't and we should not 420 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 5: do this, But I'm telling you it's happening, and all 421 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 5: it relies on is, you know, continuing to push those 422 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 5: tax cuts through, get rid of regulation, and make sure 423 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 5: we have a skilled work for us, and we're going 424 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 5: to be stronger than ever before. 425 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: Kelly, when you look at this bill that is obviously 426 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 2: working its way through Congress right now, the big so 427 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: called big, beautiful bill that we expect to see come 428 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: through sometime around Memorial Day. How important do you believe 429 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: it is based on the conversations that you're having to 430 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: have some form of tax certainty given that the tax 431 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: cuts that Trump initially put into place in twenty seventeen 432 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 2: are set to expire, how important is it for businesses 433 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: to know what to expect in that arena. 434 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 5: I think it's incredibly important, Clay, because I think this 435 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 5: economy is spring loaded for tax cuts, and you know, 436 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 5: I think it's something that's frustrating to me, as someone 437 00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 5: who's spent decades in finance, is when the Fed only 438 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 5: looks at tariffs as an issue. We've got so much 439 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 5: counter inflationary good news coming into this economy. Not only 440 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 5: is inflation falling, but taxes are going to go down. 441 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 5: Regulation is going to go down if we give small 442 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 5: businesses the certainty that they will continue to have the 443 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 5: twenty percent deduction, bonus depreciation accelerated depreciation back to January twentieth. 444 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 5: I've talked to many manufacturers who are waiting to put 445 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 5: in the order for more CNC machines to buy more 446 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 5: land to grow and build because they're already getting the orders. 447 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 5: Thanks to President Trump's tariff strategy to bring people to 448 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 5: the table and bring manufacturing here. People are saying we 449 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 5: want to reshore. So it's ready to go. We need 450 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 5: Congress to act. 451 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 2: What's your go ahead? Yeah, I was just going to say, 452 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: sorry the building on that question. I can't believe the 453 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: number of countries out there that are cutting interest rates 454 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 2: like crazy, in particular all over Europe. I don't know 455 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: that we've ever seen a divide like this. Is there 456 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: any doubt in your mind based on what you are 457 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 2: seeing that the Fed should be cutting interest rates? 458 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 5: There's no doubt in my mind. We have four year 459 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 5: inflationary core inflationary lows. It's much lower when they did 460 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 5: double cuts last fall, right ahead of the election, And 461 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 5: when you have these counter inflationary trends of lower taxes, 462 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 5: less regulation, falling energy prices unbelievably low. We had a 463 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 5: five handle on the oil price the other day. The 464 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 5: tenure is already kind of self regulating itself down. So 465 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 5: I feel very confident that we should go into the 466 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 5: next rate cut looking at it. But who knows. I mean, 467 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 5: if this has become a political issue, anything could happen. 468 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: If things go and We're speaking to Kulli Leffler, who 469 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: runs a small business administration for anyone joining us. If 470 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: things go as the Trump team is hoping, and as 471 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: we've started to see some indicators, for example, the deal 472 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: with the UK, we're hearing about an India deal, We're 473 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: hearing about other des on the horizon. If these trade 474 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: deals go through, let's say in the next sixty days 475 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: or so, most of them. Right China is probably going 476 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: to be a longer issue. But what happens for businesses 477 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: for the rest of the year that is positive? Like, 478 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: how are the way because right now, I think, as 479 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: you've said, Trump has made it clear there might be 480 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: an adjustment period and if you're relying on supply chain 481 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: from China, there could be some issues with that. But 482 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: what is the upside of making this fair trade for 483 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: We have a lot of small business owners listening right now, 484 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: a lot of people who work for small businesses right now, 485 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: How does this get better for them if the Trump 486 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: policy and well if the Trump deals rather go through. 487 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great question. We just saw yesterday the 488 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 5: UK trade deal opened up our ag markets to the 489 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 5: tune of five billion dollars. It's going to bring in 490 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 5: about six billion and tariff revenue. But what it's also 491 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 5: going to do is remove some of the non tariff 492 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 5: barriers that were put into their regulatory apparatus that blocked 493 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 5: our ability to ship our products overseas. I talked to 494 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 5: one logistics company who said his business used to be 495 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 5: half import half export ten fifteen years ago. Today it's 496 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 5: ten percent export because of all the trade barriers against 497 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,719 Speaker 5: our country that have made us more dependent on bringing 498 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 5: in goods. So small businesses that I'm seeing on the ground, 499 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 5: the manufacturers and particularly are gearing up to invest and 500 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 5: make things in America that we can then ship overseas, 501 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 5: keep for ourselves and not be reliant on anyone for food, 502 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 5: for pharmaceuticals, other critical areas of our trade. So I think, look, 503 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 5: small businesses are certainly just critical in this conversation, and 504 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 5: I am making sure that they have a seat at 505 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 5: the table because this is the again, it's really the 506 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 5: backbone of our country, and we have to make sure 507 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 5: that we're well aware of everything going on in The 508 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 5: President is on top of it, and that's why he's 509 00:26:55,280 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 5: pushing fair trade, lower taxes, less regulation, low energy price. 510 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 5: Is this all benefits small businesses. 511 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 2: Kelly, I hear you were touring the Tennessee Titans football stadium. 512 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 2: Hopefully at some point in time they'll actually start winning 513 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 2: games when that new stadium opens up. But there is 514 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: a lot of optimism. Obviously you've been in Tennessee. Nashville 515 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: is growing very rapidly. I know you live in Georgia, 516 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 2: which has also got a pretty good economy. Rolling what 517 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 2: do you think of the stadium and in general, what 518 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: do you think that's going to mean for downtown Nashville 519 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 2: where for people who are around here, I think we're 520 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 2: going to get a Super Bowl, which is going to 521 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: be pretty cool in a few years for the city 522 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: of Nashville. 523 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 5: I think it's a tremendous investment that is really powering 524 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 5: the economy. Even today, we saw a thousand workers on site, 525 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 5: driven by more than sixty five small businesses that are 526 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 5: helping build that stadium. And so in addition to the 527 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 5: entertainment value and the value it brings to small businesses 528 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 5: in terms of creating sustainable businesses around that stadium, it's 529 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 5: just going to create this venue that builds a really 530 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 5: strong community. And I was with your great governor, Governor Lee, 531 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 5: and just looking at You know, I think the state 532 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,719 Speaker 5: bird is now the crane, the construction crane, given how 533 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 5: many cranes are in the air there. But it was 534 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 5: exciting to see and they're doing a fantastic job. There 535 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 5: was a great small business contractor that won the SBA 536 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 5: one of the contractor or the SBA awards, And you know, 537 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 5: he was just talking about the generational change that this 538 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 5: economic development is creating for all communities across Tennessee. 539 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: What does it look like, Kelly, if we get to 540 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: a reasonable best case outcome, specifically with the trade tariff 541 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: issue with China, like what we know with our other allies, 542 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: because you've already seen some of they go, Okay, we 543 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: need to reassess this, you need to even some things out. 544 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: That's fine. China is a different balloax and a much 545 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: bigger challenge, I think than obviously our allies offer for 546 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: clear reasons. What does it look like if Trump gets 547 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: that where he wants it to be. 548 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's an important question in those conversations are starting tomorrow. 549 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 5: It sounds like, and what we need to make sure 550 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 5: is that America's interests are protected in this in ways 551 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 5: that they have not been in the past, whether it's 552 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 5: intellectual property. What happened is we would send our intellectual 553 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 5: property o receives, they'd manufacture it for us, and then 554 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 5: they'd put the trade barrier up, so they would have 555 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 5: stolen our intellectual property manufacturer there for their people, and 556 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 5: then we lose that market. So we're going to have 557 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 5: those protections. We're going to have larger markets if we 558 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 5: can have more cooperative reciprocal trade levels, and then we 559 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 5: won't have the non tariff trade barriers that they've set 560 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 5: up against us. They've put up kind of false environmental barriers, 561 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 5: health barriers, and other things that they don't hold themselves to, 562 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 5: but they can erect that against our manufacturers. And so 563 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 5: I think restoring our strength by having manufacturing here and 564 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 5: doing our energy dominance agenda, we start mining in America again, 565 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 5: getting the rarers minerals, and making sure that we protect 566 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 5: our economic security and our national security at the same time, 567 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 5: because we have seen with the Chips situation and others, 568 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 5: rarers were way too dependent on China in terms of 569 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 5: national security, and I've seen some great chips manufacturers small 570 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 5: businesses in America. This can be done, but we have 571 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 5: to really focus in on that as much as we're 572 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 5: focusing on what China is doing. 573 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: Kelly Leffler, Administrator of the US Small Business Administration, Kelly, 574 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: thanks so much for being with us. Appreciate it. 575 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 5: Thank you all. Great to be with you. 576 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm optimistic, well, we've been optimistic the whole time actually 577 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: about the economy. 578 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: I think we have this summer, and again I don't 579 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 2: want to go full Jim Kramer here because he tends 580 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 2: to be wrong on everything, but I think by the summer, 581 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: as more and more of these trade deals are rolling out, 582 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 2: I think we will be back and near an all 583 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: time high in where stock prices are. 584 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: You know, some of our adversaries get a vote as well. 585 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: And officials from the bricks nations are meeting in Brazil 586 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: this July to discuss the US dollar. 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Fourteenth Leo, Leo Leo, the fourteenth 622 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 2: Pope from Chicago, Chicago White Sox fan. I'm gonna go 623 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: get some deep dish pizza. I've got my oldest son 624 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 2: going with me, which should be super fun. Going to 625 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: be speaking at the University of Chicago again. Last time 626 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: I went there that created some fireworks, so should be fun. 627 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: I'll be there Saturday morning. I think I tweeted out 628 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 2: the link if anybody's in the Chicago area, and we're 629 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 2: gonna go get some deep, deep dish pizza while we're there. 630 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: But I also am going to have a little bit 631 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: of a late night, a little bit of a late flight, 632 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: and so I'm going to be pounding Crockett Coffee this 633 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: afternoon to take me into the weekend. 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The Bernie Sanders talking about 644 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 2: wife Li's private and also, we didn't get to play 645 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 2: for you yesterday Joe Biden doing the view the full 646 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 2: clips that we had because news about the new pope broke, 647 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 2: but a lot of EP emails and whatnot. Rolling in 648 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: line says some of these callers so pessimistic. I believe 649 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 2: the majority of cardinals picked who the Holy Spirit nudged 650 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 2: them too. I'm ecstatic. Let's be hopeful and give the 651 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 2: man a chance, super fun time to live through. Please 652 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 2: listen to some positive callers. I'm Catholic, and I believe 653 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 2: the vast majority are thrilled. Everyone in my friends and 654 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 2: family is buck I'll tell you this my friends and family. 655 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 2: Everybody is just ecstatic that there is an American pope 656 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 2: because we had been told for so long it wasn't 657 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 2: going to ever happen because of the power that America 658 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 2: had on the global stage already, and so I thought 659 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 2: that the overall reaction would be very positive, and so 660 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 2: far it has. Did you find that to be the case? 661 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: After we got off the air, the news broke while 662 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 2: we were on the air, so we were in real 663 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 2: time scrambling because this guy kind of came out of nowhere. 664 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 2: No one anticipated that that was likely going to be 665 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 2: the pick. Yes, well, we have to see what this 666 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 2: pope does. And for believing Catholics within the church, there 667 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 2: is a hand of God in all things, certainly in 668 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 2: the picking of the next leader of his church. So yeah, 669 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 2: I think or of the Catholic Church. So I think 670 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 2: that there's plenty of reasons for tremendous optimism. And it's 671 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 2: a it's a. 672 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: New era in the church, and we shall see how 673 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: it all goes. You know, we don't know anything until 674 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: we know something. 675 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 2: I'd put it. 676 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: I tell you that you know who else doesn't know anything? 677 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: As Bernie Sanders, He's going around on the on the 678 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: tour of oligarchy. 679 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 2: We need to people who. 680 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: Fall for this stuff. And you know, it's interesting even 681 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: some of the people that have switched over to the 682 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: right in recent years become trying voters used to be 683 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: Bernie people. And I always want to sit down with 684 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: him and say, he is such a charlatan. Really, when 685 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: you get down to it, how do you not see 686 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 1: what a phone? He's consistent, but that's not the same 687 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: thing as not being a phony. He's the biggest phony. 688 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: And we'll get into he's a socialist who owns three 689 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: houses and wants to lecture you about rich people. We'll 690 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: talk about that coming up.