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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the show. My name is Matt, my name

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Speaker 1: is Noel. They call me Ben. You are you? And

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Speaker 1: that makes this stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 1: I want to check you guys, doing all right, feeling good,

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Speaker 1: feeling nice? Yeah? Having some car trouble? You having some yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but hopefully temporary. Right, Well, it's not not not cheap.

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Speaker 1: You still made it here. You didn't make it here.

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Speaker 1: Had a lovely uber driver in a van with one

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Speaker 1: of those doors where when you touch it it opens

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Speaker 1: with this bionic you never know how hard to push it.

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Speaker 1: You know, let's freak me out. Let them do it.

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Speaker 1: Because they are a DVD system in the back. You

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Speaker 1: could watch like Moana or something, you know what. The

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Speaker 1: everybody listening right now is probably thinking what is this

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Speaker 1: going to talk about? DVDs? Is this a car conspiracy?

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Speaker 1: Is this It might be, because here's the thing, ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, we are doing a very special episode, something

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Speaker 1: a little bit different. This is not about just one topic.

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Speaker 1: This is about multiple things, and we're maybe going to

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Speaker 1: be surprised ourselves in the course of this episode. And

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Speaker 1: as every fan of UFO Disclosure has always wanted to

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Speaker 1: hear someone say, we are not alone today, we are

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Speaker 1: joined by let's what what should we call him? A

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Speaker 1: local local luminary. Yeah, there you go. He's a local

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Speaker 1: Atlanta legend of sorts, prolific performer and known for numerous things. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he he uses his voice very much like an instrument

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Speaker 1: a singer. Please let's not get into that again. You know,

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Speaker 1: we can have we can play a guessing game, but

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Speaker 1: people have probably already read the titles already. That's just

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Speaker 1: what we do. That's what we do. We're tap dancers.

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Speaker 1: But who do who? Do? We have, ladies and gentlemen

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Speaker 1: on the show, sir, Thank you so much. Truly a

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Speaker 1: dream come true for well, it's a dream come true

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Speaker 1: for us because we found out that we have someone

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Speaker 1: And you you caught the last episode moving to Mars.

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Speaker 1: Scandinavian or something, and it was just like I was

423
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: expecting more granular detail in there. So it was already

424
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: let down there. Then lo and behold, I stumble upon

425
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 1: this headline genealogy a warning to Ancestry customers who consent

426
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: to use DNA services, And it's basically about how they

427
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: have partnered with a biotech company called Calico that's owned

428
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: by Google and uh. This partnership allows Ancestry to make

429
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: its customers DNA results um available to other companies for

430
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: research purposes. You know, this is a This is a

431
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: serious rabbit hole if we want to go down it,

432
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: which obviously we very much do we already. If you

433
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: want to go to the depths, could they clone me

434
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: without my consent? I want to run into another me

435
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: at the mall one. I don't have the whole chase

436
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: and the whole Oh man, I wanted so badgers? For

437
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: what reason would they collect your d NA? Like? Are

438
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: they starting a seed bank for humanity? Much like the

439
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: seed bank that's being flooded out? And where is it

440
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: noway Norway. Maybe they're just holding onto it till they

441
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: can figure out something cool to do with it. Let's

442
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: populate Mars with workers like these guys that you know

443
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,719
Speaker 1: they don't know. Yeah to Nordic, thanks thanks for your

444
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: worker up there. And we got another you digging up pit.

445
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: I was underwhelmed to the point where I was like,

446
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: what is up something? Then like like it's like it

447
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: didn't feel like a real feel like a real service.

448
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: And now I find this out and it's like, man,

449
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: you know at first, you know, we already know our

450
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: our data as being sold sold. Now it's our d NA.

451
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: Granted I chose to spit into that little vial. That

452
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: was my choice, and it was free. But if they're

453
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: really trying to be super nefarious and get particular people's DNA,

454
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: it's easy to chase somebody down and get a glass

455
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: after they drank out its. Yeah, it sucks, but but

456
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: this is like fine print that I like, they have

457
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: my study, my stuff. Well, here's the thing he's stuff.

458
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: Here's one thing we do know. Gene therapy they would use.

459
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: They would look through your code to find indicators of

460
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: uh preponderance or tendency for a genetic disease predisposition. And

461
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: they would say, well, it turns out that this person

462
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: is Scandinavia and making this up, I'm not trying to

463
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: scare you has a higher um likelihood of developing. What's

464
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: something really weird, uh, Like they can make it up

465
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: super glaucoma super glaucoma. Yeah, it's an epidemic in Scandinavia.

466
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: And and so they would say, okay, well, now we

467
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: have this this treatment that we've patented that can address

468
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: that thing for this specific group of people, but we

469
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: own it. You don't get a part of it. That's

470
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: the other thing they got me because I'm so cheap,

471
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: you guys. When I learned about all the massive data collection,

472
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 1: just electronic surveillance, I I figured, okay, yeah, well what happens.

473
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: And then I learned that they were selling it and

474
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't getting a cut. It was like, that is

475
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: not cool, you know what I mean. So here's here's

476
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: the here's yeah, the gist of the fine print. It's

477
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: just from an article um that I just pulled up.

478
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: It says, basically, ancestry gets to use or distribute your

479
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: DNA for any research or commercial purpose it decides, and

480
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: doesn't have to pay you or your heirs. Ancestry takes

481
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: this royalty free license in perpetuity for all time and

482
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: constribute the results of your DNA tests anywhere in the

483
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: world with any technology that exists or will ever be invented.

484
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: That's the part I'm talking about, or will ever be

485
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: invented Like that means they could clone me. Yeah, it's

486
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: in context when they give like in perpetuity and all

487
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: the known universe, like they go on, they're like, whoa,

488
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: what the universe? I feel like I got got you guys?

489
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: And long? How long can a blood sample last? Do

490
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: you think or a saliva sample last? Well, you can

491
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: also extracted or something. It's not a one and done

492
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: because you can cultivate it. So they can just continue

493
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: growing until they're ready to make it. I know you're

494
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: trying to make me feel better mad but not helping.

495
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: But you gotta put yourself in it. Yeah it sucks.

496
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: Don't do that. Don't take my DNA into stuff with it.

497
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: But what are they really get it? I don't know

498
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: what are they gonna do that's gonna screw up your

499
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: life so bad? Unless they like planted on the on

500
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: a crime scene, But why would they do that. Don't

501
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: make an enemy at whatever Google, so they're not planting

502
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: your DNA to murder. Yeah that's the thing though, of

503
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: a company like Google has this kind of power. I

504
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: don't know how I feel. What I wouldn't do is

505
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: just don't ever talk trash about Google or alphabet. I

506
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: just did ship has sale that could have launched. We're

507
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: on the way for me. It's not Hey, don't feel bad. Yeah,

508
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,479
Speaker 1: I mean, and if we lose you, we'll just get

509
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: the other version, use my clone. And it's the type

510
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: of thing that maybe one day they like got a

511
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: clone of you in a tank somewhere, and then you're

512
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: like dying of kidney failure and then suddenly there's like, hey,

513
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: we have a kidney that's yours. You can buy it

514
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: from us because you signed this thing that said we

515
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: could have it would come back to you if you

516
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: like grow another one. Yeah, so you're on a payment

517
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: plan right lay away away. The thing about clones in

518
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: the basement is you gotta be really careful about power

519
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: fluctuations like that can be a big deal just from

520
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: you know, from every everything he learned. Yeah, from everything

521
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,479
Speaker 1: I've learned that while they're in the tank, I'm assuming

522
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: they'll be in some sort of tank that if power

523
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: flux weights between that, then what might happen? Mutations will happen.

524
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all kinds of bad things could happen. Well,

525
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: you should know a little thing or two about cloning.

526
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: That's sort of a thing they carry the comedy that

527
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: Adam Read writes a script about such things. That's all.

528
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: I don't you have a basement with tanks? No oudly enough,

529
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: even though most of my Twitter followers think that I am,

530
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: in fact the cartoon scientists. It's remarkable to me that

531
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: in the century people still people don't know the difference

532
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: between the person who voices a character and this actual

533
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: cartoon scientist that does insane thing. Are you're saying you

534
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: don't have a holographic girlfriend? Really don't. Although last year

535
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: a dragon Con, there was a guy who dressed his

536
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: creaker and he had a little mini uh projector with

537
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: him and he would stand next to walls and he

538
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: had a Mitsuko as her name, and she would actually

539
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: she could move like there was like any jif form,

540
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: and so she would move next to him. It was brilliant.

541
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, so good. You got to respect

542
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: the crap at that point, right. It really incredible people

543
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: are devoted colayers. Dragon Con cosplay in particular is pretty

544
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: and the whole point of that whole it's a New

545
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: York comic con for the first time, and it was amazing,

546
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: Like the rooms, like the vendors, got blew my mind.

547
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: But like the costume game was just not nearly the

548
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: same gigantic TV and film trade draw and cosplays a

549
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: tiny little part of it. It's so strange to me

550
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: with with cosplay because there is something on a psychological

551
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 1: level so alluring and tempting to to become some other person,

552
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: you know, and at heart, like I know, sometimes people

553
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: can say, oh, that's that's silly, why are you doing this?

554
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: But at heart, it's the same compulsion that drives people

555
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: to change their identities permanently. Or I don't talk very

556
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: much about my personal life on this show, but I

557
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: will confess something because it happened in the in the past.

558
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: I when I found out usually where um dark or

559
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 1: colored clothing. When I found out that I could take

560
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: a piece of just eight and a half by eleven

561
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: paper rolled up like this, stick it under the collar

562
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: of my shirt and be wearing all black, then I

563
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: started impersonating a priest on Martha and I'm sorry, it

564
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: was great. What did you do as a priest? People

565
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: conransportation people would come up and talk to me. You know,

566
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: what is an easy way around all this tomfoolery is

567
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: just go online and get yourself with twenty five UH ministers,

568
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: which I have. Yeah, Yeah, I'm a Yeah. I wear

569
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: my collar out in public sometimes. And do people want

570
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: somebody to talk to as much of an atheist as

571
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: I am? And I am a ranging one man. People

572
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: want some sort of religious place to go and just

573
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: dump all their junk onto. I liked it better when

574
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: you wear the eye patch. Yeah, the eye patch is

575
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: a different experiment. I walked up to after work spot

576
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: and Ben was wearing an eye patch, and you know,

577
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: Ben's a little bit of an intense figure sometimes regular guys.

578
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: So I'm like, hey, man, everything okay, and He's like,

579
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it. And I was

580
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: like okay, and I'm like I know when to back off,

581
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: and so I backed off. And this other guy unrelated

582
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: to the original group walked up and knows Ben what's

583
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: going off the eye patch? I don't want to talk

584
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: about it, and it can. I was like, I really

585
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,959
Speaker 1: thought something was up, and then like later it turned

586
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: out that he was just messing around with all social

587
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: experiments will do while I wear an eye patch and

588
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about I I don't know

589
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: if I'm with you, man, Thanks man, I don't know

590
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: about I don't know about fools, but yeah, it was

591
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, man, rocketting and eye patch. I think it's

592
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: disrespectful if your eyes work to do it permanently, you know,

593
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: because I was thinking, what if I run into someone

594
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: who actually has because you could tell a real eye

595
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: patch versus a fake eye patch I have. The real

596
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: ones are obviously medical devices, and they've got gauze and

597
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: stuff on them. You don't really see people walking around

598
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: with the black eye patch, but right, and so if

599
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 1: I ran more of a fashion state, if I ran

600
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: into that person, it would be like running into a

601
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: genuine priest. What I'm dressed as a priest, I would

602
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: have to I don't know if I would just turn

603
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 1: tail and try to disappear, or if I would try

604
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: to see if my BS skills were accurately claim. You know,

605
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm an internet uh minister, and I saw people that

606
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: might have needed to reach out, and so I slapped

607
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: on a little collar. Yeah, pulled a Dave Chappelle thing.

608
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me

609
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: a police. Oh boy, who, I'm sorry, I've derailed us

610
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: a little bit. Let me read it back. Yeah, Okay,

611
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: what if you ran into your clone? If I ran

612
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: into my clone, I would love it. I would be

613
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: I patch is the only one that tells us who

614
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: the real that's that's that's what I would need to do. Um.

615
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: It's It's interesting because when we talk about the science

616
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: of cloning, they're actually some very dangerous problems with the

617
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: clones for some reason that we don't understand, tend to

618
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: be much us healthy. Like Dolly the Sheep was just

619
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: that that four lamb did not get a fair shake

620
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: from the start. Can you believe it's been since n

621
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: when Dolly the Sheep was Yeah, I didn't even realize

622
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 1: that was last century. I figured that was definitely that. Wow,

623
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: it feels like we haven't gotten that far, really stopped

624
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: that unless ancestry dot com it's got warehouses full of us.

625
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: There are theories about human cloning centers that are all

626
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 1: over the Internet, and we've been written to many times

627
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: asking us to cover these things. Why are why are

628
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: you not? You need a man in the field, that's

629
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: the problem. Yeah, we need somebody to go out there

630
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: and try and infiltrate one of these things. You need

631
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: Lucky Aids slightly successful voice actor. I want to clone myself.

632
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: I want I want to get off this money trade good.

633
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: And the thing is, if we send a clone out,

634
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, it'll be it'll be a tragedy when something

635
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: happens to them, but it'll be a tragedy we originals

636
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: can all experience together. This is when we get a

637
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: clone of ourselves. First of all, they're gonna be a baby, right,

638
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 1: So it's like, who knows if this baby is even

639
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: gonna live past six months and it's still just gonna

640
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: be a baby. It'll just come out fully formed. We're

641
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: not there yet. We're not to venture brothers where like

642
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: we've got these tanks and beds and all that kind

643
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: of stuff. It's like, no, we're gonna have age. Acceleration

644
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: is a whole different. Yeah, it's the consciousness really that

645
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: we got to get out of our bodies. Making more

646
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: meat versions of ourselves is silly. If we are this

647
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: close to the singularity of melving with machinery, right, But

648
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: would I want to go But that's the question. Would

649
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: it be just a copy of your consciousness? You know?

650
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: It's like that old Theseus's ship, right, the old idea

651
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: that if you slowly replace pieces of a ship over time. Yeah, yeah,

652
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: because you're calling it whatever. Yeah, it's a completely different things. Sure,

653
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: why not as long as you've got I mean, all

654
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: we are is a bag of chemicals with memories, right,

655
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: which are chemically induced. Yeah, so if you can keep

656
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: those memories and keep building on them, which is the

657
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: way at least our understanding of how we work. Uh sure,

658
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: why not. It's just a different version of what we're

659
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: already doing. It's just and gooy if we get hit

660
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: by a rock and you might not know, I mean

661
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: you would know, but it would be a relatively academic

662
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: fact after that, where you know, maybe in the future

663
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: it would be a fun fact that you tell your

664
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: friends at parties. You're like, you know, I used to

665
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: be made out of like weird meat meat. Yeah, I

666
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: had a part of me had to be cut off

667
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: because I mangled it when I fell up my bicycle.

668
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: Which reads those anymore? Did you guys ever read the

669
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: comic that's available online, I think through existential comics. It

670
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: was called The Machine, and it was all a thought

671
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: experiment about this very thing with a teleportation machine with

672
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 1: every time you teleport, you die and another copy is

673
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: created in the prestige. Yeah, essentially the same thing, and

674
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: in this story I will toil it too much. But

675
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: it's such a popular thing because you can teleport anywhere,

676
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: and everyone's just doing it, and everyone is just killing

677
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: themselves and reconstituting themselves. But pick up right, like, like,

678
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: is there even a blit in the mind of the

679
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: clone that lets them know that they're a clone? And subjective?

680
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 1: They're probably in subjective time there probably wouldn't be Ideally,

681
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: they wouldn't. We've talked about this before over over cocktails.

682
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: He sounds so classy. Yes, well, you know, it's just

683
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: it's just because it's kind of thing where when you've

684
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 1: had a few beverages you can really you go around

685
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: around and stuff like this for a while. But the

686
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: think of the problem with that is we all, I

687
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: don't know about you guys, but I always thought that

688
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: I sounded way smarter than I actually did. You know,

689
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: usually sound of as smart as you are. I'm gonna

690
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: choose to interpret that as a compliment as it list

691
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: uh so, but incouraged Let's say you could have a clone, right,

692
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: Let's okay, Yeah, they could sort of accelerated. It's age

693
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: up to somewhere point would you want to have one around?

694
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: Let's say like, oh no, Mike, liver is failing thanks

695
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: to our conversations about this very thing. Now I need

696
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: my spare part. I would keep on me in a

697
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: tank for spare part that you couldn't make it to

698
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: me being downloaded? Do I want to be friends with him?

699
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: And then you go like, by the way, I'm taking

700
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: your liver well, and you hear me, yeah, he thanks

701
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: other me, And then you start fighting about who, like

702
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: who deserves to live more? Does the original who is

703
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: failing to live more? Or does the improved clone deserve

704
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: to live more? Who knows everything? I think we should

705
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: just I think the answer that a lot of people

706
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: will find is maybe it's just easy or to make organs.

707
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's more more difficult or if

708
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 1: it's easier because you have to build an entire support

709
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 1: system to impersonate the rest of the body for that liver,

710
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: there'd have to be something like blood going through it.

711
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: But in theory that couldn't you do it like you know,

712
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: chicken McNuggets style, where it was all on an assembly line.

713
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: You could just make dozens of livers. Yeah, kind of

714
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: maybe exactly, like, yeah, you gotta have like a selection,

715
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: you know, Like, I don't know, man, I feel like

716
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,479
Speaker 1: that would be instantly used by nefarious billionaires. Did you Also,

717
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: did you guys read this study? Um, well, I don't

718
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: know if it's studied. I'm not on this, but there

719
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 1: were rumors going around that, uh, people had discovered transfusions

720
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: of blood from young mice into old mice improved their health.

721
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: Real life vampire, right, this is a real thing now

722
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: in Silicon Valley on the TV show it was there,

723
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: but also in real life of infused in young blood

724
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: into it. That's ridiculous, though, aren't we can constantly making

725
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: new blood? Right, We're not just using the tank of

726
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: blood we were born with, you know, we don't have

727
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know for how long? How

728
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: long does this attitude last when the blood it sounds

729
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: like them in vigor for the rest of time or

730
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: does it after a week? You know that's gonna say.

731
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: Imagine it's like taking a vitamin supplement or something. We're

732
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: just good through you essentially, then you're getting into that

733
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: countess that they yeah women battery, Yeah, well, also you

734
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: know mace water. What if it's just what if it's

735
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: just like twenty minutes, you know that's uh? Is it

736
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: worth it? Right? Thanks? College kid, don't life gave me

737
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: twenty minutes of your ecstasy? Uh? Did you guys watch

738
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: Silicon Val this season? There's this whole this whole thing

739
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: based on this where it's a guy who was just

740
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: employed with a salary to sit there for twenty minutes

741
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: and infuse blood. Well, it's character and it's based on

742
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: actual Well I can give you some of the background,

743
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: you guys. So there's a This story got reported at

744
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: m I T Technology Review. Uh. It is being offered

745
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: as an anti aging thing from a company called Ambrosia

746
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: for eight grand a pop. They will uh yeah, they

747
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: will inject you. I feel like all four of us

748
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: are so creepy by calling it new blood, but that's

749
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: what it is. Young blood young boy looks like the

750
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: Radiohead song We Suck Young Blood. They were prescience, weren't they?

751
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: So Uh. The guy who started, Jesse Karmazan, said that

752
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: within a month, most participants see improvements from the one

753
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: time infusion of a two leader bag full of plasma.

754
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: So uh. Several scientists say his trial is so poorly

755
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: designed it can't hope to provide evidence about the effects.

756
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: And it was also a pay to participate study that

757
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: collected four point eight million from the participants. That many

758
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: people lined up. Yeah, wow, wow, I you know, I

759
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: want to see how this shakes out. A lot of

760
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: people are saying that a lot of other experts are

761
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: skeptical to say the least. But I have to ask

762
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 1: if we assume it worked, Like if somehow it worked,

763
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: which biologically at this point doesn't make sense. But but

764
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: if it worked, what would be the point where you

765
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: would not do it? You know? Would it have to

766
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: be like the time span is not enough, would someone

767
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: have to die? Would you be taking all of someone's

768
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: blood and then living a more healthy virile. It just

769
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: strikes me as such a boogie thoughtless thing to do.

770
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: In the first place, we know blood donation centers are

771
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: always in short supply, not enough people donate blood, and

772
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: we're just like scooping up all the blood that like

773
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: dying children needs and just just like feel good, get

774
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: a little pep in my step. But imagine, terrible, imagine

775
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: if you could make a living, like an actual living

776
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: and pay rent just by giving your blood away to

777
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: these ultra rich humans. Would you do that? But wouldn't

778
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: you feel terrible all the time? You'd just be a

779
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: blood bag? Like yeah, you would literally do something. No,

780
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: that's a terrible life. That's not all. That's not all.

781
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: That's cool though. You could play some PlayStation while you

782
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: do you make all the time like about to pass out.

783
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: You just have cookie, yeah, or just cooking inn oculus

784
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 1: risk and you're good to get know what a terrible

785
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: stop it. People's awful, all right. I'll admit though, if

786
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: I even't really wanted to clone, just like the idea

787
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: of it, Yeah, of course, yeah, of course I would.

788
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: If I ran into another at the mall, it would

789
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: be the best. It would be cool, like hopefully if

790
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: they had similar personalities, which we don't know if they would,

791
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: we don't know, we don't know. Right, there's the one.

792
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: There's this one farmer that had a beloved bull, and

793
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: this bull would come in and out of their house

794
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: all the time. And the bull finally died and they

795
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: went to like Korea to have this thing cloned, and

796
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: it came in. It started out like, oh, it's just

797
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: like old rab or whatever the bull, and then the

798
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: bull turned on them because clones are bevil. Clearly they've

799
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: never seen science fiction, and so the bull became this horrible, crazy,

800
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: rampaging bull that they had to put down. And they

801
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 1: should have been able to tell the mustache and all. Also,

802
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: don't let bulls in the house. That is a bad

803
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: number one. Yeah, you got a bull, the bullyard. Yeah,

804
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: that's when people that's when people tell me my my

805
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: first day, told me on my first day, starting here,

806
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: should we we should we take a quick stop, hop

807
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: off the bowl and take a sponsor break and then

808
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: hop back on. Sounds great and ride. So now our

809
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: our sojourn finds us arriving at something that Matt Noel

810
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 1: and I had talked about a lot off air, which

811
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: was our earlier interview about disclosure with Stephen Greer Aliens.

812
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: This is one of the things you had mentioned off

813
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: air too. I wanted to bring that up earlier and

814
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: tie to something we mentioned, this idea of being watched

815
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: by some force and the idea that they're sort of

816
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: watching us screw up our lives and our planet in

817
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: our society. And we talked in the interview about if

818
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: these are extra dimensional creatures, do they have some purpose

819
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: and interact thing with us, like, are they here to

820
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: help us? Are they watched waiting to watch us burn

821
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: ourselves to the ground so they can swoop in and

822
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: do something with what we leave behind. I don't know.

823
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: I think that's that was one of my favorite parts

824
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: of that discussion. Yeah, I'm always I'm always terrified with

825
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: the quietly terrified. I would think a very like repressed

826
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: British kind of terrified. When I think about the physicist

827
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: who say Stephen Hawkins is one famous example, but the

828
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: physicists who say we don't want to meet extraterrestrials, why

829
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: would they come all this way if they were traveling,

830
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: you know, according to the dimensional rules we understand. And

831
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: more even more disturbing, what if what if there are

832
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: other civilizations? Are SINCHI intelligent beings? They can hear all

833
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: the signals we're trying to put out and they're just

834
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: not responding. Yeah, maybe they're just like no way, yeah

835
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to And maybe they're hiding. Maybe they're hiding.

836
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: Maybe we're colle actively our species. Is that idiot in

837
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: a horror movie who's like, hey, guys, I heard something

838
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: weird in this house. I better go down there. I'll

839
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: go down this cellar up the stairs, you see. I

840
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: think we're just more in our infancy. If there are

841
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: other intelligence spaces, were nothing compared to the lifespan of

842
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: a planet. I mean, we're in the middle of how

843
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: many times has there been a mass extinction? We're in

844
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: the middle of the sixth one right now. Yeah, okay,

845
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 1: so so five times before everything has been wiped out,

846
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: and so we're just the leaders at this one. Like

847
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: we had not been on this planet for that long

848
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: as a species. Uh, I'm going to say evolution, because

849
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: that's how it works. You know, we've evolved during just

850
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: this small amount of time. Great, we have thumbs and

851
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: big brain cavities. But my question to all that is

852
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: that maybe there are and they be you know, they're

853
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: watching us and all that kind of stuff and don't

854
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 1: want to have anything to do with us or our

855
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 1: planets set up. Maybe species can't evolved to such a

856
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: state to even make it off a planet, you know

857
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: what I mean, like maybe the universal laws or whatever,

858
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: just like why would we ever want to infect other

859
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: places with you? I don't know. I mean that's the

860
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: Earth is like an organism basically, uh, you know, and

861
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: every creature on it is another organism that is fighting

862
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: for space all that kind of stuff, and humans are

863
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: really running wild on ours and you know, at some

864
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: point we're going to throw good numbers of ourselves off

865
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: one way or the other. And maybe that's just how

866
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: life works, uh in the universe, is that that we

867
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: can only get so far, any species can only get

868
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: so far before they just burn themselves out or throw

869
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: themselves off the planet because they get too smart. But

870
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: our own good. I really like that you pointed that

871
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: out because the one of the things that we've explored

872
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: in the past, which is bothers people on an existential level,

873
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: is just what you said. It's a massive um. I

874
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: guess I could say it's a massive pain in the

875
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: ass I can say on the air, right, Okay, well,

876
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: I think we've loosened the reins a little. That's true.

877
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: From the Mars interview. I forgot about that, yes, But

878
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: the point is, you know, it's it's a massive pain

879
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: to take anything that's specifically adapted to living in this

880
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: larger organism recreated environment, uh in a sustainable way and

881
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: then just put it out in glorified um. I mean,

882
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: the best we can do, but a glorified container, right

883
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: and then and then say okay, let's just keep playing

884
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: this lottery until we can build something. So I says,

885
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: something larger and sob I sustainable. It seems like the

886
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: future of space exploration is going to belong to whatever

887
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 1: new life form humanity creates. So we're not the protagonist.

888
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 1: Elite were like the builders. Yeah, they're like the midwives

889
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, yeah, we we were the result. And

890
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: and you know, there's of course the theories that the

891
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: life on this planet evolved from commets and things smashing

892
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: into it because somewhere else there were these organisms and

893
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: the microscopic level that attached to the various commets and

894
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: whatnot got here and then boom, life happened. And so

895
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, if we really want to get off planet,

896
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: I say, we just start you know, shooting, put put

897
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: our personal microbes on some rocks in the space and

898
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: hope for the best. Get some spermozoa and some eggs

899
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: on these rocks and get them out there trying to

900
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: put a man. Why would we try to put humans

901
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: on Mars where they're just gonna get bombarded with radiations

902
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: and nightmare scenarios that they'll never survive? Is it because

903
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: we just want to have one guy or one lady

904
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: who can one up buzz Aldrin And a conversation later

905
00:52:55,360 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: when I had what did you do? Was one of

906
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 1: the most fascinating things from the Mars episode They procreating

907
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 1: on Mars and how how long it will take to

908
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 1: figure out if that's even possible. I mean, it's so

909
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: like completely unsustainable. Was I think they could take a

910
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: hundred people at a time and their goal is to

911
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 1: get a million people and yeah, and they were saying

912
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: by the time that everyone got there, there'd be a

913
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: whole new generation of kids that have been born. They

914
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: worked the way we work because we grew up on

915
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: this planet, not on some other planets. But one thing

916
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: that came up in the interview was with with with Marshall,

917
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 1: was I brought up the idea would we evolve differently

918
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: on Mars versus you know, who really figured this stuff

919
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 1: out was the first total recall, whereas immediately like true

920
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: Martians became mutants. So these weird because they were just

921
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: growing up in this completely different environment than Earth is.

922
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: And so we started sending people there and they started breeding,

923
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: and then you got quatto. Yeah, if you've seen the

924
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 1: video where that but he's singing your Eyes by Peter

925
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: Gabriel and again to go with Hawking, Yeah, why would

926
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: we want to meet? So let's say some species was

927
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: brilliant enough to make its way off the planet or

928
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: slip in between dimensions and all that kind of stuff,

929
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 1: and they're here and they're watching us, who are total morons,

930
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: like with the humans, do not have it figured out

931
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: or else the world would be in a very nice

932
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: state right now where everybody would be working harmoniously with

933
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: one another. We are absolutely not in that state. But

934
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: they's gonna be so much further advance. Why would they

935
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: come here for anything other than resources? And if that's

936
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: what they're here for, unless we're the resource they need,

937
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: then would be getting loaded onto ships to just wipe

938
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: us out and take whatever they were here for it Unobtainedum,

939
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: there was a Twilight Zone episode where the Aliens wanted

940
00:54:56,040 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: to take us all to their planet. Everyone about it, right, accept,

941
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: that's great show, great, they created like every twisty sci

942
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 1: fi troupe in that gallery. You have a quote. Kreager

943
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: has a quote in the show about superior anal technology

944
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: with the Aliens and that's why he was so fascinated

945
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 1: by abductions and aliens. Yeah, and uh, they could tell

946
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: so much just by probing our butts. That's that's one

947
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: of the strangest and funniest things to come out of

948
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: pop culture around abductions and aliens and all that. I

949
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 1: just why is it always an anal prob? Why are you? Yeah,

950
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: why are they anybody so much information? What's ground zero

951
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 1: for anal probe? Alien tropes? Like? Was it? Was it

952
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: the Twilight Zone? No? I don't think who was during

953
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: the collective there was some real fads of suddenly there

954
00:55:55,719 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 1: were all these were forward, right, and so like that.

955
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: I think one abduct he probably brought it up, and

956
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: then other abductees quotes on the same Oh yeah, that

957
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 1: happened to me too. And then then of course, because

958
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: it's the funniest thing that could happen is that you

959
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: would go on this ship and the aliens would start

960
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 1: sticking things in your butt. That's the one that people

961
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: because we are still just who throwing monkeys? Absolutely, and

962
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: I know I don't not believe in the concept of abductions.

963
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: I just don't think we have enough information. I'm not

964
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 1: like fully on board. But I have the same attitude

965
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: towards that as I do about like the existence of

966
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, a greater here's you know, if Anywans were

967
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: coming here and abducting us, why would they put us back?

968
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: I want to just take us, take a person, go off,

969
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: do all their experiments in the discard? Why did they

970
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: wait for ethical reasons bringing us back and putting us

971
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: back in the sort of fuzzy memories of what happened,

972
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: Like what's the point of throwing us back? Maybe they

973
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,959
Speaker 1: have really high level morals in there, and they would

974
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: ask us permission, and they have a booth and you

975
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: know who sign up college campuses at the alien fair

976
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: where you would go and see like, oh yeah, I'm

977
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: gonna go with this experiment as I want the aliens

978
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: to figure out about us. You'd get a small amount

979
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: of money. Why would they ever bring us a stipend

980
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: at least? Yeah, Like we had all these extra steps

981
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: so that they're nice to us in the end, Like

982
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: they're awful, but they're nice. Well, there's also the possibility

983
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: that abductions occur, but are the cause is misattributed, you know,

984
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: because we know memory is treacherous, right, One thing I

985
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: thought was interesting about these alien abduction stories is if

986
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: you look at them plot point for plot point, they're very,

987
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: very similar to the old tropes of people being visited

988
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: by change lands or fairies. You know. So I think

989
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: there's a larger phenomenon or experience or something in the zeitgeist.

990
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: But I think it's also it's all just very It's

991
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: it's easy to attribute a specific cause with a lack

992
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: of transparency, but if we don't know, then we can

993
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: just say what is more likely, what is less likely?

994
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: And I love the point you're making about why why

995
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: would it be catch and release? You know what I mean?

996
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: Because what is this? What you will there's a whole

997
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: spaces endless as far as we know, just chuck our

998
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: bodies out when you're done with us. I will say

999
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: this though, and this bleeds into not only what we're

1000
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: talking about, but also my theory on ghosts another which

1001
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: is dimensional echoes. Right, So we could be, you know,

1002
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: the theory say that we live in this multidimensional system

1003
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: where and let's say, dimensions rub up against each other.

1004
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: That's what I think ghosts because I wish, man, I

1005
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: wish more than anybody, you know that ghost spooky ghosts

1006
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: would be flying around all over the place. God, I

1007
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: want that to be real. I don't think it is.

1008
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: But I've lived in a house that other tenants have

1009
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: claimed was haunted, and they heard a lot of things,

1010
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: and every once in a while you would see a

1011
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: weird shadow walk by that you didn't. But I think

1012
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: things like that are just like maybe there's a dimensional echo, right,

1013
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: Maybe sometimes that they the strings or whatever get a

1014
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: little close to each other, and so there's some bleed

1015
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: in between dimensions, and maybe abductees are sleeping and they

1016
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: see this guy, they some other upside, some other dimensional

1017
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: thing will rub up against it there they can perceive it.

1018
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: They don't know what to make of it, and so

1019
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: they create this already in the pop culture mindset, or

1020
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: these alien abductions, and so it must have been that

1021
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: as opposed to this other thing that I can't even

1022
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: possibly begin to explain. I don't know, did you ever

1023
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,479
Speaker 1: have any personal experiences while you were there? The only

1024
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: seeing out of the corner like me and some buds.

1025
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: Granted we were in our twenties, all stoners, beyond belief

1026
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: and you know, up at all hours, just being ridiculous,

1027
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: but we would all be sitting there, like either watching

1028
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: TV or something, and you'd see something walk by a

1029
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: doorway of these big French doors, and you'd see something,

1030
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: and everybody in the room would turn and look, you know,

1031
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: at the same time, like what was that, and like

1032
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: whoa what just happened? And one of my very best

1033
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: friends on the planet and also a big skeptic, was

1034
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: left in the house at one point during the holiday season.

1035
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: Everybody left and he heard like a full on party

1036
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: going on upstairs and he was alone in the house

1037
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: and he was freaked out, like he like left the house.

1038
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: He couldn't take it anymore. And the guy, one of

1039
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: our buddies, who his grandmother had originally owned the house,

1040
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: and apparently there was a lot of entertaining that went

1041
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: on during the holidays and all that kind of stuff.

1042
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: And that's when I was like, well, maybe these are

1043
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: just some sort of echoes of those old times and

1044
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: stuff that somehow, I don't know, a conscious not a

1045
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: conscious thing, just say another experience. So I've told this

1046
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: story in the podcast before. I used to tell the

1047
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: quick version. Um, But when I was a kid, a

1048
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: girl I was dating a dear friend of hers died

1049
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: in a car accident and I got into her car,

1050
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: my my girlfriend at the time, she was finished class,

1051
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: and it was like really cold, got in and she

1052
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: was like crying, and I'm like, what's up? And she

1053
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: blows on the inside of her car windshield and the

1054
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: girl who died with her signatures. They're clear as day.

1055
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: And in my mind at that moment, I was like

1056
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: ghosts and you got really emotional, and I felt like

1057
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: a sense of this thing. But I know now that

1058
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: it was totally like the kind of thing of a

1059
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: girlfriend would do, you know, like in their early twenties

1060
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: or whatever, write your name and in the in your

1061
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: breath or whatever, and you got residue on your fingers,

1062
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: so it's it's like, yeah, exactly. But like in that

1063
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: moment though, I was just like done, I mean, you know,

1064
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: and it was like and he I didn't even have

1065
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: to explain it away, just kind of like fizzled over

1066
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: time where I realized, oh, I was kind of like

1067
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: really taken in by the moment, but like this is

1068
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 1: really what was happening, and it was kind of disappointing.

1069
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: You know, our brains want an answer a lot of

1070
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: times they're just aren't ones that we can perceive, and

1071
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: so we come up with ghosts. Wen here's where we

1072
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: get into something very similar, where the human mind is

1073
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: just trying to make sense of something that we don't understand,

1074
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: and we call it a lot of times magic. So yeah, okay,

1075
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 1: all right, I'll buy magic. Yeah. Magic, Well, it's something

1076
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: that comes up here all the time because we discuss

1077
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: how technology, if it's advanced enough, it seems to be

1078
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: magic to us simply because we can't explain it. I cannot. Yeah,

1079
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: as far as I know, there's a little wizard that

1080
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: lives inside my laptop that makes it happen as far

1081
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: as I know. Yeah, I don't know how it works.

1082
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: What's that Arthur C. Clark quote? Yeah, that's what we're

1083
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: just like. Uh, technology past a certain point is indistinguishable

1084
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: from magic. I'm paraphrasing. Only that comes up hardcore in

1085
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: the New Transformers movie. I think it's in the first

1086
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: four movie too. Yeah. So there's this idea, right, But

1087
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: then there are other human beings throughout history who have

1088
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: tried to make use of a more I don't want

1089
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: to say conventional magic, but spell casting and actually writing

1090
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: things down and yeah, yeah, the focus your mind on

1091
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: this one sort of subject or or outcome that you want,

1092
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: and somehow you are making the universe respond to your

1093
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: constant thought processes. Yeah. I used to buy into that

1094
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: stuff too, but then it becomes how can I, possibly

1095
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: my little chemical thing going on in my brain have

1096
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: any influence whatsoever on the physical world around me? How

1097
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: unless I do so, Like, unless you're influencing yourself in

1098
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: some way. Yeah, unless it's like weaponized psychology, which is

1099
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: a phrase somebody use that I thought was I thought

1100
01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: it was cool, um, but it's Yeah, it's true. There

1101
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: are certain things that no matter how much you focus

1102
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: your attention or whatever, how art in a fan of

1103
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: the secret you are, you can look Like hundreds of

1104
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: people got together in the sixties and tried to lift

1105
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: the White House with their minds. They's still on the ground,

1106
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:22,479
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, thank you, sorry about that. They should

1107
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: have tried with like we tried to lift the bike first, Like,

1108
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 1: let's start with a bicycle before we moved to the

1109
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: White House, which is a giant building. It was people

1110
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: very heavy. So yeah, it has an extensive basement. I

1111
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: was just gonna say, have a bowling alley in it.

1112
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: So maybe if we got a couple of hundred people

1113
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: and like a toddler's bike. Yeah, start a ping pong ball.

1114
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: Lift that up hundreds of people. We're gonna put it

1115
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: right in the middle of his field. You make a

1116
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: circle around it. Just lift this ping pong ball up.

1117
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: What do you guys do the next Saturday? Hopefully lifting

1118
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: a mind. I'd rather just play some ping pong and

1119
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: we just keep it simple. I think we can. I'm

1120
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: a basic. I think we're gonna do this all in

1121
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: one afternoon. We just have the multitask, you know what

1122
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: I mean. We could take the ping pong balls from

1123
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: the ping pong game that will satisfy me and then

1124
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: try to lift them with our minds. Or we could

1125
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: see if someone could try to like tilt the ping

1126
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: pong game in your favor. Yeah, you know, because that's

1127
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: what people would do if they had small amounts of

1128
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: telekinesis right, you'd be in Vegas playing craps because you'd

1129
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: never loose. Don't you ever feel that urge though, just

1130
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: to like think real hard at something and make it

1131
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: do a thing. I try to do that all the time.

1132
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't work, But like telenes is magic, essentially you

1133
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean, We're all these words, all these

1134
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, different things. It's all the same crap. It's

1135
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: just like you want something to happen that really can't,

1136
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: but so you're gonna make this thing called magic, make

1137
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: it work. They just haven't harnessed the strings yet in

1138
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: some cases. In some cases, practices that would have been

1139
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: considered magical in the modern day did use uh important results,

1140
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: like alchemists when their predecessors of chemists discovered a lot

1141
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: of stuff. Some of it, it turned out, later came

1142
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: back to bide us, like pesticides. But at the time

1143
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: that's amazing, And so I I can definitely see that

1144
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,439
Speaker 1: edge of that. I have a proposition for you guys

1145
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: that ties into this a little bit. So. One of

1146
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 1: the big psychic powers, which I would also classify with magic,

1147
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: that people will typically talk about in fiction or sometimes

1148
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: claim the experience, is what's called psychometry, the idea that

1149
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: by touching a physical object, someone with this gift would

1150
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: somehow know what happened. Right, So like so like Lucky

1151
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: is like Lucky is like in somebody's kitchen and he

1152
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: picks up a knife and then he just all of

1153
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 1: a sudden knows that was used as a murder weapon,

1154
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: and he's still gotta like hang out and be cool

1155
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: with whomever the killer is for a second. Right, that's

1156
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: how That's how it happens. But um now I think

1157
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: it's it's plausible or well possible that we as a

1158
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: species could arrive at a situation where technology or the

1159
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: Internet of things, which that was used to be a

1160
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: really popular phrase, where it enables that kind of psychometry. Well,

1161
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: there was a there was a product that came out

1162
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: and there are probably several of these called tile and

1163
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: all the idea. The idea was like people who lose things,

1164
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: and for a lot of people, this is a this

1165
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 1: is a convenient thing, and what it means is that

1166
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: you will never you'll not only will you never not

1167
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 1: know where an object that is tagged is, but eventually

1168
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,959
Speaker 1: that same technology could get us to a point where

1169
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 1: you know, this cup also as a story that I

1170
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: can tell that you can pick up just by touching

1171
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: it and just running your phone over it. That's pretty interesting.

1172
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 1: But I like seeing the trees and what not that

1173
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: it came from. Who knows what? From what am I

1174
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 1: going to get from my cup? Yeah? When it gets

1175
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: documented first, like if they put if there was a

1176
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 1: cup is not the best I mean, honestly, it's not

1177
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 1: the best example. But yeah, if they made the cup

1178
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: and then they tagged the cup with that held the cup,

1179
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, done with the cup, right, right, that's what

1180
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: I mean. I think that's I think that's possible. But

1181
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 1: also I would ask if that ever happened, would you

1182
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: want that would you want to participate in that society?

1183
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 1: I mean, unless it's just another distraction to keep us

1184
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,680
Speaker 1: from the horrors of us destroying ourselves. Any So, what's

1185
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: the point of knowing your cups? The story? Yeah? Right,

1186
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, what's the point even how

1187
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 1: it's just because we can do it? Like, yeah, that's

1188
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: Historically that's something that we've often we've often said as

1189
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: as a life form, we've often been like, hey, you

1190
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 1: know this thing we could do. It's someone's like, oh,

1191
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: like we can do that thing, like yeah, yeah, Like

1192
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 1: well let's go into the desert and blow up and out. Yeah,

1193
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: let's go do it. Our curse right of humanity, Like

1194
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: we're fearless and curious at the same time. I don't

1195
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: care if it's going to wipe out a bunch of

1196
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 1: ourselves in order to find something. Man, if we think

1197
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,640
Speaker 1: of something, we're gonna have to do it, and I'm

1198
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 1: gonna stop until we do it. That's just the human

1199
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:23,839
Speaker 1: way we can. Yeah. So, so you were into magic

1200
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: at some point or you just the idea of magic itself. Also,

1201
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: because you know, every religion in the world is is

1202
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: based on the idea of giant magical being who you know,

1203
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,719
Speaker 1: has other magical henchmen that seem to no longer really

1204
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: be working out there in the field. But it's all

1205
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 1: magic based, you know what I mean. And this is

1206
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 1: like it has such a grasp on humanity. The concept

1207
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: of magic, even though it's weird bringing up religions, is

1208
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 1: that when you introduce that word to somebody when discussing

1209
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'm an atheist and so, but if I'm

1210
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: discussing somebody who has a religious background like my parents,

1211
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: Let's say, if you bring up the word magic, they

1212
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: flip out. But then when you explained, but here's what

1213
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: you're saying, and there's no other way to describe what

1214
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: you're saying other than using magic, which is ironic considering

1215
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: that a lot of hardcore Christians think any magic that

1216
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 1: doesn't isn't involved in their religion is evil and witchcraft

1217
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: or satanic someone like that. Oh my god, that its work.

1218
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 1: And it's not just Christianity to conte. Yeah, and I mean,

1219
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: and it goes to humans being just very tribal and

1220
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: we've got to have our group is the right group

1221
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: and not your group. Let's wipe each other out so

1222
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 1: that our ideas are the ones that survived, and it's

1223
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 1: a zero sum game. Yeah, I'm so jealous of you.

1224
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:54,560
Speaker 1: Haven't been able to see saw Ricky Gervais debate or

1225
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 1: defend his atheism to Stephen Colbert, who is a devout Catholic,

1226
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 1: and he had the couples line. It was like, I

1227
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,560
Speaker 1: believe in one less god than you. Yeah. It's like

1228
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 1: there's what three thousand gods in the working canon of

1229
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: humanity right now. I just don't believe in one more

1230
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: than you. Yeah, you don't believe in two thousand ns.

1231
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 1: I just believe don't believe in three thousand of them.

1232
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 1: And thought point, it's great, you know, you know, if

1233
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: we want to get into religion, I don't know how

1234
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: many cards and letters, but we just at this point

1235
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 1: would like to remind everyone we will never tell you

1236
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: what to believe, No, no, what gets you through your day, great,

1237
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 1: just as long as it's not causing you to do

1238
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: harm upon others. That's the way I see it. I

1239
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: think we can all agree with that. If you think

1240
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: gets through your day and you all your beliefs and

1241
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: you rocket man do it, go for it. Happy for you. Um,

1242
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't think that. Well, I don't

1243
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,560
Speaker 1: think you know, I don't think they're I'm not a

1244
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 1: big believer personally in proselytizing, so I don't. I don't

1245
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: think it's we say it on the show because it's

1246
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: something that we practice in our real lives. We're not

1247
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 1: going to go out and tell people what to think

1248
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 1: or what to do now, but it's okay to say, uh,

1249
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going to tell you not to

1250
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 1: attempt to launch yourself out of a cannon without training,

1251
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 1: but say, well, you should know, the odds of you

1252
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 1: being injured or are much higher than the odds of you,

1253
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 1: you know, pulling off this cool trick. I mean, the

1254
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: person you're trying to impress might date you, but they'll

1255
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 1: be dating you in the burn ward for a while.

1256
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: Best case scenario. I think that's I mean, I think

1257
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 1: that's absolutely funny. I appreciate you said. Whatever it takes

1258
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 1: to get you through your day. Um, so whatever gets

1259
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: you through your day. We know that we live in

1260
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: in the West, at least an increasingly secularizing society, right

1261
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: and uh, we also know that people are shedding some

1262
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 1: of the old taboos that once existed. Social taboos, I mean, right,

1263
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Speaker 1: and one of the biggest cases of stuff they don't

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Speaker 1: want you to know that we get. Since this show

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01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: began the people asking us about marijuana legalization, specifically cannabis

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01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: and hemp. H Yeah, we found a various different and

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Speaker 1: surprising historical anecdotes. You know, marijuana was not the always

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Speaker 1: the villain that it became, you know, so we wanted

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01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: to ask, you know, what do you think about the

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Speaker 1: current movement, which is state by state. Um, I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of contradicting the federal government stance. So do you think

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01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 1: about the current movement towards legalization? Because I'm a huge pothead. Still,

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01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 1: what do you mean still? You said it was in

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Speaker 1: your twenties. Uh, no, that was my old drinking days.

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01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 1: And well in my twenties I did I left I

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01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 1: left pot for a while. Uh. And I became a

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Speaker 1: real good drunk, uh fun draw though I never got

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01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: bad or anything like that, but I could eventually, i'llcohol

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01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: turned on me. Uh and I turned back to Pott

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01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: and I went, you know, I was, I'm like I

1281
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,759
Speaker 1: with like many artists, I got a lot of neurotic

1282
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 1: hangups and such, and uh my entire life, I've always

1283
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 1: you know, been a panicky type. And I was taking

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01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: Paxel and all kinds of everything all day long, you know,

1285
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 1: having a pop pills every day just to keep me

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01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 1: grounded and man. Then we came back into my life

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01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 1: and completely changed the game for me, Like I just

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01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 1: put me at ease with things I had never been

1289
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: at ease out before. Gave me perspective on things that

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01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 1: and you know it, and it was different than it

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01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 1: was in my twenties, my experience with pot in the twenties,

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01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 1: which was you know, I mean, I mean my twenties.

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01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 1: So I'm just looking at party, party, party, party, party,

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01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: as opposed to this thing that I'm discovering. Like, not

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01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 1: only does it open me up to uh talk more

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01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 1: about ideas and see things from a different perspective than

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01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 1: I had before. I think maybe age has something to

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01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: do with that too, but um it also I don't

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01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 1: have to pop Paxel every day anymore because this has

1300
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: completely like mellowed out my whole panicky situation that I

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01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 1: was always in the middle of into like being able

1302
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 1: to cope with things on a much more adult and

1303
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 1: responsible level than I had been, which I was just

1304
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: reactionary before. And we've done episodes on Big Pharma and

1305
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 1: obviously pretty significant and it just about anybody just observing

1306
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 1: could argue roadblock too wide scale large scale legalization is well,

1307
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: that's the whole and that's exactly correct. The problem with

1308
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,799
Speaker 1: POTT is is that it's too perfect and it grows

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01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 1: wild and uh, giant corporations can't control that so much.

1310
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 1: And this is again goes back to the Mars trade.

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01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 1: Throw capitalism up there, because it's just gonna destroy itself

1312
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: really fast. Like if as soon as you through the

1313
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:03,680
Speaker 1: idea of like who's going to make more money up

1314
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: here than it just ruins everything. Like, so yeah, I'm

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01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 1: all for a pot. Uh you know, I also want

1316
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,560
Speaker 1: to keep uh you know, the big corporations out of

1317
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: it because it is a crop and you know, so

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01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 1: here's the thing, Lucky do you live in Atlanta? I do.

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01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: I do, And I smoke pot every day, okay, which

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01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: is illegal and this thing, but you think that that

1321
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 1: is what makes it hard to get ahold of. That's

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01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 1: the other thing is that Look, every other state, including mine,

1323
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 1: own every state that doesn't have legality. It's out there

1324
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 1: and it's the easiest thing in the world. It's easier

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01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 1: for me to buy weed than it is for me

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01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,640
Speaker 1: to buy alcohol. And I'm fifty years old, you know

1327
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, I got a hundred guys that

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01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: I know that I can get some weed off of

1329
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: drive to a liquor store and to know where one

1330
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 1: of those is, and guys that will deliver marijuana to me.

1331
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 1: It's true. Alcohol delivery isn't a thing. Yeah, not yet.

1332
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 1: They're probably working on it. But it's weird because it's

1333
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 1: it ties into some of the blue law things right where,

1334
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 1: and those are especially common in the South. We used

1335
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 1: to talk about, well, we was talking about the case

1336
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: for legalization, whether it's decriminalization or full recreational legalization. When

1337
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: Colorado UH massively boosted their tax revenue and the state

1338
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 1: ran out of weed to sell. Nevada is currently just

1339
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 1: this month became like they opened up their dispensaries and

1340
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: they're out of pot. Because it became so everybody smoking

1341
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 1: weed except the guys in the big offices that are

1342
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 1: telling us not the smoke weed. Well, they might be

1343
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 1: smoken too. What what's that old line about prohibitions, like, uh,

1344
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 1: people will vote for prohibition as long as they can

1345
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 1: still stumble to the polly. Admission does nothing but create crime.

1346
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 1: That's where the crime comes in, is the prohibition. As

1347
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 1: soon as it's legalized and regulated, then there's no problem anymore.

1348
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: It certainly feels like we're on the road to decriminalize,

1349
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 1: at least in a lot of places. I think the

1350
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 1: country is gladly walk to a dispensary and pay more

1351
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 1: than I currently pay on the black market, knowing that

1352
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 1: the more that I'm paying is going to fund better

1353
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 1: schools for my state? Are you kidding me? Absolutely? Throw

1354
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,520
Speaker 1: in on that. Look at the numbers, though, it's absurd

1355
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: how much money it makes, yea. And when it's using

1356
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 1: you know it's done in these more progressive states they

1357
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 1: use it. Well, it's like you can pay for infrastructure.

1358
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 1: Already doing that in Georgia with the lottery, which is

1359
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 1: just legalized gambling. Uh. You know, we won't call it

1360
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 1: that ever, because we're not a gamble state. But that's

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01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 1: all that is. And every way it goes to our

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Speaker 1: schools and in theory scholarships and such. Yea a little bit,

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01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 1: but so good again, good good chance to start afresh

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01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 1: with marijuana legalization and like then you past legislation that

1365
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 1: earmarks that product and it has to go there or else.

1366
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 1: This whole thing is done. What's really standing in the way, though,

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01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: obviously politicians are a big part of it. You've got

1368
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: the old generation of fear. There's a lot of fear

1369
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 1: from because you know a lot of people, that's the

1370
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 1: fear about losing their their influence. And I think it's

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01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 1: a voter base, right, It's the type of thing that uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, my parents I don't think would ever vote

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01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 1: for legalization, even though they have two sons that are

1374
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 1: chronic marijuana smokers. Uh and uh. I think it's because

1375
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: they were adults during the Nixon years when he convinced

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01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 1: them what an awful, terrible thing this was, and that's

1377
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: what they still have in their mind. The myth is

1378
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:55,680
Speaker 1: still very much alive of what marijuana is. And you

1379
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 1: know it's a boogeyman that like, oh, they're gonna start

1380
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: doing other joints like madness saying zero zero want to

1381
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 1: do cocaine, LSD any of the other drugs. Just being

1382
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 1: and I'm a huge pophead, but I'm a huge pope

1383
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 1: because I love pot. That doesn't make me want to

1384
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 1: do like let's throw my body into another weird state

1385
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 1: that I might not be able to control. I know

1386
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: how I am on weed, and I'm the best me

1387
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 1: when I'm on weed. Uh, but like if I get

1388
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 1: on LSD, God knows what's gonna happen. I don't want

1389
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 1: to go down that road. That's that's the thing. It

1390
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 1: reminds me of the little p s a s where

1391
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 1: someone's like where someone talks to their their drug dealer

1392
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 1: and hey, do you have any marijuana? Like, no, I'm

1393
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: out of marijuana. Try this heroin. No one would ever

1394
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 1: do that. No one's ever, no one's ever. God, Well,

1395
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 1: it is a drug. Well it goes back far than that.

1396
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, back in my drinking days. Uh,

1397
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 1: drinking makes you want to fight, and it makes you

1398
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: want to argue, and then it also loosens your inhibitions

1399
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 1: enough that you want to start throwing punches. I have never,

1400
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 1: not once while being high on the marijuana, have ever

1401
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: wanted to do anything but sit down and discuss normally

1402
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,759
Speaker 1: cool topics. Uh. It never wanted to throw a punch.

1403
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 1: It never made me want to go do something stupid

1404
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,839
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't have done had I not been stoned.

1405
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 1: But that's all alcohol does is it makes you do

1406
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 1: the dumbest crap and gets you into nothing but trouble.

1407
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 1: Plus you feel like crap the next day. And man,

1408
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 1: there's no such thing as a weed hangover because I've

1409
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: pushed it to the limits and I've never woken up

1410
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 1: the next day going, oh man, I'll tell you what.

1411
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm turning thirty four pretty soon. And I had just

1412
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 1: a little bit to drink the other day. Yeah, nightmare.

1413
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 1: And that's why I stopped drinking, is that I my

1414
01:21:56,439 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 1: love of alcohol did not end. Alcohols low of meat ended.

1415
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 1: It became a one way relationship instead of a two way.

1416
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 1: And I know what, I'm not wanted anymore. So I

1417
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 1: took my belongings out of the Sweet Lady Boost's apartment

1418
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:15,600
Speaker 1: and h there was Mary Jane waiting for me on

1419
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 1: the street. Corner, oh Man, serial monogamous took me right

1420
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 1: into green embrace, and I shall never go back. Well,

1421
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 1: what one thing I'm finding interesting about these conversations is

1422
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 1: that more and more people seem to be regardless of

1423
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 1: whether or not they personally use weed in any form,

1424
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 1: you know, uh, typically, more and more people seemed to

1425
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 1: be saying, well, what's the big what's the big deal? Like,

1426
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 1: when's the last time that a crime related to the

1427
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: nature of this substance, not to the low rounding it,

1428
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 1: but to the inherent nature of the substance. When's the

1429
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 1: last time that caused a crime? Everybody currently in our

1430
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 1: societists to say, the United States, everybody who wants to

1431
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 1: smoke weed right now is already smoking weed. It's there's

1432
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: not the illegality of it isn't stopping anybody, because it's

1433
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: so easy to get. And the problem is is now

1434
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 1: it's so easy to get that if high schoolers want

1435
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 1: to smoke weed, they can go get it. If it's

1436
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 1: made legal and regulated, suddenly that becomes a little more

1437
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 1: difficult because then they got to get a guy to

1438
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 1: go into a store to pick some up and then

1439
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 1: give that back to the kid on the outside and weird.

1440
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, hanging out the side the seven

1441
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 1: eleven trying to get some older guy to buy you

1442
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 1: a beer. Like, it's just gonna mess up at some point,

1443
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 1: but it's not going to knock the black market out

1444
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 1: entire it won't, but it'll put a good step in

1445
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 1: there in the middle. It's gonna up your game. It's

1446
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 1: weird to think about. If it does become legal, imagine

1447
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 1: buying bootleg alcohol off of somebody like on the street.

1448
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: You could you could just go into a liquor store

1449
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 1: and get some alcohol. Or there's a guy that you

1450
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: know that has some, but he calls it jin still

1451
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: guys running a step fast Jimmy with the Still that

1452
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 1: is really interesting. I wonder how that that would affect

1453
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 1: the black market. Well, that's still that still does happen

1454
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 1: because this would be heavily taxed. And so even after prohibition,

1455
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 1: there were people who kept like corn mash stills, We're

1456
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 1: going all the way back around, uh, corn mash stills

1457
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 1: to um to avoid pain. Any kind of tax exactly

1458
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 1: will still happen where people will be growing. And so

1459
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 1: let's say it's legal, and then then it becomes like, well,

1460
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 1: where is your farming license in order farm this? Now

1461
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 1: it's a crop. You can't sell corn to people on

1462
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 1: the street just from your growing in your backyard technically, Uh,

1463
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: you know, we you shouldn't be able to grow this

1464
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 1: other crop because we don't know what you're doing with it,

1465
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:45,640
Speaker 1: and it's a regulated thing. People are always going to

1466
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: grow their own, uh you know, that's they we have

1467
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 1: to now out of necessity. So that's you know, and

1468
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 1: there's a huge industry and grow your own, you know

1469
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 1: what I mean, hydroponic kits and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: A huge industry and time. But the only thing we're

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Speaker 1: not allowed to do is put a seed in ground

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Speaker 1: and wait for it to grow up into a grow

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01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 1: and then take a flower off and put it in

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01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 1: our body. That it's always weird of me at you.

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01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 1: It's like you've got these like research chemicals they call them,

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01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: like lab chemicals that are legal for a time because

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01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 1: they're so new. Right, Like let's talk about like the

1478
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 1: bath salt's epidemic, remember that where it like you know

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01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 1: that some of that was debunked, but it was like

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01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:24,600
Speaker 1: a really potent like amphetamine more or less that was

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01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:29,600
Speaker 1: causing people to do pretty crazy violent stuff and like

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01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:34,640
Speaker 1: total dissociative properties, right, But again that's stuff. It was

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01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: legal when they were doing it, and then you know,

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01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 1: and then the d A catches up, figures it out,

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01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 1: makes it illegal. But things are moving so fast with

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01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 1: like sign researchers that kind of come up with these

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01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:48,719
Speaker 1: byproducts from whatever they're doing, I guess, and then someone

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01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 1: figures out they can market it as some kind of

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01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 1: like a quick high or design or drug. Yeah, look

1490
01:25:53,920 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 1: at the opioids has people hooked on basically a win

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01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 1: in the form of a pill that came to them

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01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 1: in you know, as a pain pill to deal with

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01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 1: their pain, and didn't do it for under like downplaying

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01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 1: it two doctors, Like literally the corporations are saying to doctors,

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01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 1: that's fine, it's fine, pass it out. It's perfectly legal.

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01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 1: Yet if you grow that completely just grows wild. We

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01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 1: never did anything to it, I mean that we have now,

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01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 1: but then we've just made other pretty flowers that have

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01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 1: crazier effects than they used to. But I have a

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01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:38,600
Speaker 1: have too fun facts about marijuana. One, in Bhutan, the

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01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:42,679
Speaker 1: very small Himalayan kingdom, it grows wild in the ditches

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01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 1: and it's it's legal if the people want to smoke it,

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01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 1: but they don't. They feed it to the pigs, so

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01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 1: it may have the most relaxed pigs on the planet.

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01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 1: Their their pork is probably delicious. It's like, oh my god,

1506
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 1: the big is so not traumatized by any of its life.

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01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 1: This is the most amazing orc burrito I've ever had.

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01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 1: And the second one is it apparently U marijuana is

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01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:11,680
Speaker 1: technically legal in North Korea, which wouldn't expect from such

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01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 1: a totalitarian regime. But apparently that's the one that's I

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01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:18,839
Speaker 1: don't know what kind of day, you know, Kim Millsung

1512
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 1: and Kim Jong when was having when somebody came to

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01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,520
Speaker 1: him and maybe it was like later in the afternoon

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01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: on a Friday and they're like, hey, uh so we've

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01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 1: we've got that, we shot the people they want to shot,

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01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 1: and where are we at with the weed? And he's like,

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01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, just letting him smoke, let's do it?

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01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 1: Is it on? Is it on their list of grasses

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01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 1: that the citizens are they suggest the citizens that they

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01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 1: eat because there's no food. Oh, that's a great question.

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01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:48,679
Speaker 1: I do not know. And it is it is said

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01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 1: that that is U. There is a Yeah, what a

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01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 1: what a great country? That is we being legal or not?

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01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 1: But even even the DPR cave in North Korea don't

1525
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 1: let you? Yeah I said that, So Jim Jong ill

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01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: let you do it? Yeah? Why can't we? And so

1527
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 1: you know that dude's smoking. Look at that haircut? Wild

1528
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:19,759
Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm sure that what's his name? The basket

1529
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 1: of tennis? Oh yeah, it isn't just showing up with

1530
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 1: autographed photographs. I'm sweetweed. Come on, man, at least seeds.

1531
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 1: So we see again what's happening is that legislation is

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01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 1: typically outpaced by social evolution and technology. So is this

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01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 1: an artifact a at different time these sorts of laws?

1534
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: And if so, what is what is the future? What?

1535
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 1: What do you guys think? Is is it eventually going

1536
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 1: to be nation wide? I think it will, and it's

1537
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 1: gonna be like everything, It's going to be the dollars

1538
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 1: that speak the loudest, right, they're going to realize that,

1539
01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, look at the tax revenue we can

1540
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 1: get if we just realize this damn plant that has

1541
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 1: never been a problem. And they all smoke it anyway

1542
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 1: in Washington. So that looking the d C, it's it's

1543
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 1: legal in a very city that makes the laws, and

1544
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 1: there's no problems. We're not experiencing gang violence because of

1545
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 1: pot those maniacs. Yeah. So you know, it's a so

1546
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 1: this breed of you know, the old Nixon era and

1547
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 1: everything just they just have to die out or at

1548
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 1: the time of them dying out. Now, if humanity can

1549
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 1: make it past this next three and a half years,

1550
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 1: uh to where we'll be a more enlightened creature, hopefully

1551
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 1: on the other side, and then maybe it'll all drop.

1552
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 1: I really thought that that was should have been not

1553
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 1: to get into politics, but that should have been Obama's

1554
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 1: final thing. It's just going like it's legal and I'm

1555
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 1: out of here so I can go puppa dube and Hawaii. Yeah.

1556
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 1: Because typically regardless, yeah, regardless of their specific ideology. That

1557
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 1: is the part where whoever the president at the very end,

1558
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:05,720
Speaker 1: they're like, I'm gonna pardon everybody. We're popping bottles. You

1559
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:07,600
Speaker 1: know what's legal now if you want to touch a

1560
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 1: buffalo inappropriately, go for it. Amount It would be like

1561
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 1: three guys like they're like, you know, I didn't like

1562
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 1: him the first the first three years and eleven months,

1563
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 1: but he really came through on that buffalo front. I'm

1564
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 1: in looking a little buffalo sit out there and that

1565
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 1: feel for quite some time, Like terr you hear about

1566
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 1: the buffalo proclamation? Oh man, does you have to have

1567
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 1: Southern accent? Was a genuine Montana accident? I will point oh,

1568
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 1: oh man, you know, I bow to your knowledge of Montonese.

1569
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 1: And uh, speaking of endings, I think unfortunately it's going

1570
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 1: to be time for us to end the episode, but

1571
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 1: not the show. We would like to first off, see

1572
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:58,679
Speaker 1: tell people where you can find and hear more from

1573
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 1: the illustrious Lucky Yates basically on Twitter or Instagram. Follow

1574
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 1: me at at Lucky Yates l U c K Y

1575
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 1: y A t E s both wise are present and

1576
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:11,719
Speaker 1: find me locally if you're here in the Atlanta area

1577
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 1: at Dad's Garage Theater performing the improvised comedy That is

1578
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 1: a fun spot. Can you give us an update on

1579
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:21,560
Speaker 1: the building situation and stuff going on? What do you

1580
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 1: mean that building that we own? The church? Yeah, yeah,

1581
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:26,639
Speaker 1: we have. We've converted a church and we're always looking,

1582
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 1: of course for funding to build on so that we

1583
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 1: can build, like our scenic guy, a shop so we

1584
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 1: can make our sets not thirty miles away. Uh, come

1585
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 1: on down to Dad's. You're can always volunteer if you

1586
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 1: want to get to know the place. The shows for free,

1587
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 1: and then you know it's fun. We're a big comedy

1588
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 1: house in town. I had a wonderful experience there. I

1589
01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 1: saw Kevin McDonald from Kids in the He taught like

1590
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 1: a master, like a like a sketch writing class, and

1591
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 1: then he did stand up opening for the kids or

1592
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 1: the folks that he taught that did their sketches they wrote,

1593
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:04,680
Speaker 1: and then close the show just answering any and all

1594
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:06,920
Speaker 1: questions the audience had about Kids in the Hall stuff,

1595
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 1: just dished deep about kids at Hall, like talked about

1596
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 1: Scott Thompson like catching himself on fire while naked cooking,

1597
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 1: like all these amazing stories. And then he was like,

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01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:20,639
Speaker 1: you know, it's not a huge space. It's very intimate.

1599
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 1: All you know, just chairs and like it feels like

1600
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 1: a small church kind of what's the word, like a

1601
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:31,640
Speaker 1: wreck room or something like that. And it was just

1602
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 1: the most intimate, cool show I've ever been to. And

1603
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 1: then kind of talked to Kevin after the show. It

1604
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:37,800
Speaker 1: was just a really nice guy. And so yeah, if

1605
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 1: you're ever in Atlanta or you live in Atlanta, definitely

1606
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 1: check out Dad's garage and let let us know if

1607
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:48,640
Speaker 1: you're going, because we might go with you. I used to, uh, I, uh, well,

1608
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 1: I'll just keep a short anectode here. I used to

1609
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:54,879
Speaker 1: steal my parents car to go watch shows at Dad's garage.

1610
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 1: It was, it was great. I'm very lucky I didn't

1611
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 1: get caught because I did not have a life. Since

1612
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 1: they know now my parents don't listen to this show.

1613
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 1: Um last Yes, Season eight of Archer is available right

1614
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 1: now on f X network somebody now or whatever you're

1615
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 1: gonna it's all streaming somewhere. And then season nine apparently

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01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 1: is it gonna be around until we haven't announced. I

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01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:25,599
Speaker 1: don't Yeah, I don't know. I don't know whether anybody

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01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:28,639
Speaker 1: came up with that. I think it's Comic Con next week,

1619
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 1: and I think we're announcing what the next season is

1620
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:35,560
Speaker 1: going to be, which I can't say here. Uh. And

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01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:37,680
Speaker 1: then yeah, I have no idea, I don't know, du

1622
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 1: no worries, but it will be. It would be on

1623
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 1: the way. And we hope you enjoyed this, uh, this

1624
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 1: discussion as much as we have. Thank you so much

1625
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 1: for your time, lucky, Thank you. This is a dream. Yeah,

1626
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 1: and we're going to head out. In the meantime, we

1627
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 1: will be back next week with more strange, bizarre, disturbing,

1628
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 1: what in a while enlightening things we got the shrug from.

1629
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 1: We raised questions in order to get people's brains thinking,

1630
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 1: right we do when we're doing our best, that's what

1631
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 1: that's what we aim for, and we'd like you to

1632
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:14,680
Speaker 1: be a part of it. So you can find us

1633
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:19,679
Speaker 1: on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter. We are conspiracy stuff at most

1634
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 1: of those uh we're conspiracy stuff show on Instagram. You

1635
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 1: can check out every podcast that we have ever done

1636
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 1: on our website, deep breath stuff they don't want you

1637
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 1: to know dot Com. We have a brand new video

1638
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 1: on our YouTube channel and it just came out first

1639
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:36,560
Speaker 1: one in a very long while. That's right, I watch it,

1640
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 1: it's fresh. We're back and uh. In the meantime, if

1641
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:43,679
Speaker 1: you want to take a page from your fellow listeners book,

1642
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 1: remember all of our best ideas come from you. You

1643
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 1: can write to us directly if you want to avoid

1644
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 1: the brew haha or the argol bargle of you know what,

1645
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 1: I've got to stop saying it like it. We might

1646
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:01,680
Speaker 1: end up actually, I get a catchphrase anyway. The point

1647
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 1: is you can write to us directly. We are conspiracy

1648
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 1: at how stuff works dot com. God damn you all. Yes, yes,

1649
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm sorry. I know that's such a fan,

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Speaker 1: that