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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: So then it sounds like the Patriots will have their

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Speaker 2: choice of Will Campbell or Mason Graham.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's that's where we're at. And I

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Speaker 3: think that's what I'm trying to come to grips with.

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Speaker 4: It's been a bad place. Notifications come in. Does Evan

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Speaker 4: Lazar take on Will Campbell and what it means? And

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Speaker 4: somebody read that I had like visions of him just

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Speaker 4: in a dark room by himself. Yes, I can't. I

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Speaker 4: can't talk now. I can't. I'm not ready. I can't

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Speaker 4: do this.

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Speaker 2: You know, we had two thousand and seven Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: He's got the Will ramble arm. I was worried about

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Speaker 2: Evan to the Raiders.

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Speaker 5: Does he love sugar that much?

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Speaker 2: Should? Oh it's not sugar. What's here? Every one's worst

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Speaker 2: and best take they've had. My good takes are too

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Speaker 2: long to the list. Matt Patricia would be fine as

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Speaker 2: an offensive coin.

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Speaker 4: And I'm still gonna give you slacking Why because I

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Speaker 4: don't think you really believed it.

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Speaker 2: No, I did. I honestly believe.

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Speaker 4: I really don't think that you did.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you I did, But I think you're being

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Speaker 2: magnanimums No, I'm not. Of all the odd things that

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Speaker 2: Fred and Paul have argued about this almost argument, with

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Speaker 2: Paul saying Fred would write and Fred adamant that he

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Speaker 2: was wrong, it's perhaps the most unexpected.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 2: at Less Stadium. That means the gang's all here. Alex

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Speaker 2: is here, Deuce is here, Paul Evan, I'm here, Matt's

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Speaker 2: in the booth, and uh, it's free agencies, and and

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Speaker 2: the silliness has started. Huh I'm here for it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I love it. I mean it's in one way, it's

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Speaker 2: great because you know, you are seeing people become available

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Speaker 2: who you weren't didn't know would be a couple of

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Speaker 2: the expectation from some people that the Patriot's gonna sign

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Speaker 2: every one of these people is just crazy. But it's fun.

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Speaker 2: It's fun, and it is to me, it's encouraging that

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Speaker 2: you know, there are players who are shaking loose, as

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Speaker 2: it happens every year. Now, some of these guys are

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Speaker 2: going to be resigned by their own team, I'm sure,

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Speaker 2: but you know, here we go, let's let's go, let's

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Speaker 2: you know, the phones I'm sure are burning up in

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Speaker 2: the football offices of Jillette Stadium.

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Speaker 5: That's when it gets interesting because you spend so much

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Speaker 5: time talking about guys like T Higgins ad nauseum, T

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Speaker 5: Higgins to Higgins, to the Higgins, and then you get

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Speaker 5: to this point and some new guys become available, and

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Speaker 5: it gives you exactly to talk about and to consider

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Speaker 5: and you know, weighing what the Patriots need between re

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Speaker 5: establishing I think the wide receiver room is certainly something

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Speaker 5: I think they should do, but you know, also just

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Speaker 5: balancing how do you best spend money. I've always been

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Speaker 5: like I love those signings, there's a lot of what

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Speaker 2: Does anyone agree with me that there might be more

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Speaker 2: But we resigned guy like James Sanders, Untully Bantakay, which

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Speaker 2: You need depth players too.

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Speaker 4: But I'm talking about but the guys that want to stay.

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Speaker 4: You need Ronnie Stanley to be your left tackle. Well,

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Speaker 4: this is when you're going to get Ronnie Stanley when

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely. League wide is not viewed as a

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Speaker 3: great free agency class this year. But I think that

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Speaker 3: There was a lot of re upping in the last

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Speaker 5: It's a little bit, you know, Spike, he didn't realize. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I think I was exasperated by the wide receivers.

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Speaker 5: Well, am I crazy?

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Speaker 7: It's a little bit play.

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Speaker 5: They're just Steve, we want one so bad and for

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Speaker 5: how long? A couple of years? Then he's not gonna

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Speaker 5: But that's why, like I just I get annoyed with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not close on the money, but I everything right.

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Speaker 4: But but he is looking for his third contract.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so and to Evan's point, he's looking to cash

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he wants out.

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Speaker 3: But I think he explained it perfectly, Paul in terms

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Speaker 3: Like you don't go into the game and not pay

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Speaker 4: Has good He's just a product.

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Speaker 2: Oh but I think you're right.

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Speaker 3: But I think that that's why, you know, to deuce

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Speaker 3: Maybe as like Plan BCD. You know, if you don't

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Speaker 3: You don't want this guy just to come in because

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Speaker 5: Let me jump on the other side of the street

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Speaker 5: yeah they were better this year, but they got they

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Speaker 2: There's something. It's almost like our discussion about buying clothes, Paul,

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Speaker 4: The left pocket you can't actually put anything in the pocket.

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Speaker 2: It the reason why they're available, Like, look, mom, it's

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Speaker 5: She's like one pants shorter than the other.

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Speaker 2: Unless it's just actually unless the pure I hate my

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Speaker 4: So I agree with you guys all around, and I'm

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Speaker 4: where I would slightly differ from Evan. They need a

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Speaker 2: Be like thirty three one. You know, I don't.

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Speaker 4: Talk in those terms, as you know, neither do other

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Speaker 4: we got your receiver. No, that's not enough. It's not

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Speaker 2: Else that at that level.

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Speaker 4: Is the guy that's really gonna give the runway as

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Speaker 4: Evan said with or maybe you said with Steph Diggs

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Speaker 4: You know, I'll take that as the guy who's gonna

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were talking yesterday on catch two by something

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Speaker 3: a little bit enticing to me to to pivot to that.

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Speaker 7: Not a desirable place, he.

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Speaker 4: Said, Massachusetts, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 5: She would never date you, bro, forget it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we could get him a place in Providence

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Speaker 8: Lives in Rhode Island, he's still employed in Massachusetts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't This is my point, Like you, we're

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Speaker 2: Says they want a first in.

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Speaker 4: The third form, understanding they're not going to get a

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Speaker 2: They're not.

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Speaker 4: You're not just going to get him for nothing.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, And I'm not going to give him away

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Speaker 2: But let's let's just say, let's just say somebody like

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Speaker 3: Here, right, But he doesn't. You know, a guy like

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Speaker 3: but different level of players, No, totally different level of player.

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Speaker 3: But like they both need contracts and they don't need

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Speaker 3: then there's nothing telling that player that you have to

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Speaker 3: that trade without that, sure.

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Speaker 2: And if that's the case, don't Isn't that kind of

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Speaker 3: But you get Brandon said no, thanks.

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Speaker 3: But what's convincing them to pick up the phone now?

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Speaker 2: No, But I'm just saying, if you get to that

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Speaker 2: You don't put yourself out there like.

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Speaker 3: That, agreed. But what happens, like I don't know if

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Speaker 3: any of these guys, like I don't know if DK

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Speaker 8: Right, and he's a guy like why do you want

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Speaker 7: That they're not interested?

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Speaker 8: You know, even if you don't want to be here,

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Speaker 8: I'd rather go with someone that doesn't want to be here,

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Speaker 8: that hasn't said it.

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Speaker 9: Public takes it all very personally, I do.

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Speaker 2: That's a valid point.

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Speaker 7: But in the past, Seattle better.

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Speaker 2: In the past, when the Patriots had a culture in place,

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Speaker 2: a winning culture with veterans, are you could bring in

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Speaker 7: Randy Brandy Moss who you know.

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Speaker 2: Was disgruntled, and and you knew that you'd be able

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Speaker 2: amount of time. But now that's not a given. That's

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Speaker 2: not a given. We haven't established a locker room that

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Speaker 2: that we know. I agree, that's what makes it harder.

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Speaker 5: Winning sells everything, you know, and that's I think just.

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Speaker 4: But it's like the whole thing with Brandon Nyuk. You know,

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Speaker 4: some called it the best offer to Brandon Ayuk. They

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Speaker 4: I think it was like a second, second, and fourth

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Speaker 4: So now a year goes by and San Francisco was

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Speaker 4: And I'm supposed to believe that everything, Oh I know,

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Speaker 4: I didn't pick up the phone last year to talk to.

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Speaker 4: Is it just because it was Girod Mayo? That like

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Speaker 7: It was Drake starting at nothing to do with Mayo.

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Speaker 4: Like he didn't even sure, he didn't really even know

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Speaker 4: Gerrod Mayo. So like, unless you're telling me he has,

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Speaker 4: you know, some relationship with Mike Rabel.

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Speaker 2: A West Coast thing, that's more likely Fred.

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Speaker 3: Quarterback. It was the uncertainty in New England that quarterback and.

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Speaker 7: Drake hadn't played yet.

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Speaker 3: Everybody is, you know, very high on Drake may But

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Speaker 3: I don't. It's not like he's going you know a

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Speaker 3: it's not like he's going to Green Bay to play

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Speaker 2: Like I think it's.

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Speaker 4: Very far fetched to think that ten months later, are

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Speaker 4: Alex's point of you're chasing after these people that already

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Speaker 4: told you No, now we're back, we're.

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Speaker 2: Back in my high school.

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Speaker 8: No, it's a really good dating analogy like the relationship

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Speaker 8: is controlled by the person who cares the least always.

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Speaker 5: We had some dating talk yesterday earlier today, and the

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Speaker 5: I think that's where this is carrying over for that

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Speaker 8: Friends, make your friends emergencies.

437
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Speaker 7: But it's out a lot of a situation.

438
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Speaker 2: I forgot my wallets, so sugar like that commercial.

439
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's uh no, it's so different now for for

440
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Speaker 5: these poor.

441
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Speaker 4: Guys, competitive air drumming texts.

442
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Speaker 5: And and swipe left and swipe right and all that

443
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Speaker 5: stuff like this just didn't exist. Like you.

444
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Speaker 8: It's like you go on like four dates and you're

445
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Speaker 8: like are you dating? And you're like, no, we're talking.

446
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Speaker 8: But it's like you're actively going on dates. Isn't that dating?

447
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Speaker 2: I get that we're talking about dating.

448
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 5: Remember, you get to like we're going out? Are we

449
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Speaker 5: going out? Are we going steady? So?

450
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Speaker 7: What are we?

451
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Speaker 5: Yeah? It's complicated.

452
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Speaker 2: We need we have to put labels on it.

453
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Speaker 3: Nobody wants that conversation.

454
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Speaker 4: No one wants labels.

455
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Speaker 7: Danny Ainge tried to do it with Kyrie, and then you.

456
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Speaker 2: Know, Jeremiah writes in about Joe Tuney Patriots rejecting Kansas

457
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Speaker 2: City's uh fourth for Tuny. I don't know, did that happened? No,

458
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Speaker 2: But are you surprised that the Patriots weren't in that thing?

459
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Speaker 1: No?

460
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Speaker 5: I mean I personally, I was just more surprised that

461
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 5: Kansas City moved on. But I thought I had great

462
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Speaker 5: conversation with Paul yesterday about kind of similar to what

463
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Speaker 5: happened with Tuny and Mason with the Patriots.

464
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Speaker 4: It's amazing to me the similarities between what Kansas City

465
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Speaker 4: is in the middle of and what the Patriots did,

466
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Speaker 4: Like just in general, like the it's easy to count

467
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Speaker 4: the wins and the playoff wins and the Super Bowl

468
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Speaker 4: appearances and all that stuff, and see that Kansas City

469
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Speaker 4: is sort of halfway, but they do things very similar way.

470
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Speaker 4: Just go back and look at it. They extended Shack

471
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Speaker 4: Mason to a big deal to play right guard. Then

472
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Speaker 4: the next year they had to franchise Joe Tuney, So

473
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Speaker 4: in order to do that and pay him, they had

474
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Speaker 4: to then trade Shack Mason. And it's exactly what just

475
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Speaker 4: happened with the Chiefs. They signed Joe Tuney to a

476
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Speaker 4: big free agent deal, then they had to franchise Trace

477
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Speaker 4: in order to do that. They're now trading Joe Toney.

478
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Speaker 4: It's exactly what happened with the Patriots, and frankly, I

479
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 4: don't understand it. Like we just spent twenty minutes talking

480
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Speaker 4: about how the salary cap might make, As Fred said,

481
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Speaker 4: free agency look a whole lot different. The landscape of

482
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Speaker 4: free agency as we know it might change because this

483
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 4: ever growing salary cap and the best team in football

484
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Speaker 4: over the last five years evidently can't rub two nickels

485
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Speaker 4: together to pay two good offensive linemen. It's absurd. It's absurd.

486
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Speaker 4: They have plenty of room in the cap. It's all

487
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Speaker 4: about money, I would imagine.

488
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Speaker 2: Well, it's money and value. They just don't think it's worth.

489
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Speaker 4: It, right because they don't want to pay him right right,

490
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Speaker 4: They don't want to play. They don't want to pay

491
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Speaker 4: a guy who's arguably the best in the league of disposition.

492
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Speaker 2: Well maybe they don't think he is anymore.

493
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Speaker 4: I don't know, but he is, like I don't care,

494
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Speaker 4: Like they can tell you they don't think he's that good,

495
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Speaker 4: but he is like he is one of what the

496
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Speaker 4: five best guards in football? Is that too strong?

497
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I don't have my

498
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Speaker 2: list of Yeah.

499
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Speaker 3: No, I mean he's an All Pro.

500
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Speaker 4: But I mean you just got to say what it is.

501
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Speaker 4: It's cheap, right, but our hunt is cheap enough.

502
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Speaker 3: I would assume that they would want to pay a

503
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Speaker 3: tackle in free agency, and Patrick Mahomes is gonna want

504
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Speaker 3: a receiver as well, and so they're just allocating the

505
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Speaker 3: resources in a different direction. And I commend him for

506
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Speaker 3: I think it is exactly what Bill would have done.

507
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Speaker 3: Like guards not a position of value. We're not gonna

508
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Speaker 3: have forty million dollars tied up in guards. We're gonna

509
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Speaker 3: release this guy that's a little bit older and we're

510
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Speaker 3: having to keep it.

511
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Speaker 4: You have to be content that you're not going to

512
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Speaker 4: be as good. But that's exactly what happened a Patriots.

513
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Speaker 4: Of course, it's being cheap. You have the money to

514
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Speaker 4: pay if you want it.

515
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Speaker 2: No, but they like, like.

516
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Speaker 4: Why can't you do it everything? Evan just said, have.

517
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Speaker 2: The money, but they're gonna spend it elsewhere.

518
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 4: But they can spend more, they're choosing not to. Well

519
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Speaker 4: everything every just said that they should be looking for

520
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Speaker 4: a better receiver, stop doing this to Mahomes a better tackle.

521
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Speaker 2: If they end up breaking the bank for tackle and

522
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Speaker 2: receiver and maybe something else and.

523
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Speaker 4: Having a lesser player play in another spot, I don't

524
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Speaker 4: think that's right.

525
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Speaker 2: Maybe they think they can. They created a hole. Yeah,

526
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.

527
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Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying.

528
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Speaker 3: But it's so much easier to replace the guard like that,

529
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Speaker 3: and they'll replace the guard.

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Speaker 4: It's a different fundamental argument. They should have never put

531
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Speaker 4: themselves in the Belichick should have never had Tony and

532
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Speaker 4: Mason among the top five highest paid players on his team.

533
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Speaker 4: It's absurd again, like paying two guards that much money.

534
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Speaker 4: And I would say the same thing with Kansas City,

535
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Speaker 4: but you have to players playing at a high level.

536
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Speaker 3: But when you have the money, But they probably look

537
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Speaker 3: at it though, is like we'd rather have the tackle

538
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Speaker 3: that's going to play it, But you can have both.

539
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Speaker 2: I don't think that's true.

540
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Speaker 3: Of course, you if they amount of money like you,

541
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Speaker 3: and that's the Eagles do it.

542
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Speaker 2: The Chiefs have opted not to u Anthony writes, and

543
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Speaker 2: you guys and everyone else he says in parentheses, are

544
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Speaker 2: mentioning DK Metcalf saying mass isn't a desirable destination. Do

545
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Speaker 2: we not remember when Juju hated the Patriots and the

546
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Speaker 2: fans during his time in Pittsburgh. He was very public

547
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Speaker 2: about it. Yet he came here with no issue. Now, granted,

548
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Speaker 2: Juju and DK were at two completely points of their careers.

549
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Speaker 2: What is the lesson learned from this money talks?

550
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Speaker 4: I don't remember that with Juju, but I'll take your worder.

551
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Speaker 2: I mean, everybody in Pittsburgh hated us.

552
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Speaker 4: James Harrison came here, but I don't remember him saying

553
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Speaker 4: I again, I didn't say that.

554
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Speaker 2: He didn't say it.

555
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Speaker 4: I don't remember him publicly saying I hate Massachusetts.

556
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Speaker 2: You know the Patriots.

557
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Speaker 3: He said, well guess he was on a rival team

558
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Speaker 3: of the Patriots.

559
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Speaker 2: But yeah, that's what I mean. James Harrison came.

560
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Speaker 4: Here, there was two things aren't the same, and this

561
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Speaker 4: is why he said Massachusetts.

562
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Speaker 2: Ya Massachusetts. Juju did not.

563
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Speaker 3: So.

564
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Speaker 4: In other words, I don't think DK is interested in

565
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Speaker 4: it has nothing to do with the Patriots.

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Speaker 8: Went as far as transition, it's not desire to me.

567
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Speaker 4: But you can't change that part of it. Whereas Juju

568
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Speaker 4: could say, yeah, it was it was sports.

569
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Speaker 2: Hate, right. I'm want the Sailers exactly.

570
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Speaker 4: I can but change that. You're in the Northeast, and

571
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Speaker 4: I don't want to go to the Northeast because that's

572
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Speaker 4: the way I look at what.

573
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Speaker 5: I love to just live in Cleveland or Detroit. That

574
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Speaker 5: would be great. Those are great places to live.

575
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Speaker 4: Why see, why are those are the options? Why couldn't

576
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Speaker 4: it be he wants to go to like Miami or Tampa.

577
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Speaker 5: Well, I'm just pointing out Arizona point. That's the point

578
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Speaker 5: of making.

579
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Speaker 2: Those teams are bad too.

580
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Speaker 4: But they're in nice weather places, which is what I

581
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Speaker 4: think he's probably getting.

582
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Speaker 3: I get it.

583
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Speaker 5: They all want to go to Miami and go to

584
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Speaker 5: my you know, like that's that's fine.

585
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: I just don't. I don't, do you hear? Do you

586
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 2: hear it? Tone?

587
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 5: No, I do because I don't.

588
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Speaker 2: Want to go to the n play today.

589
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Speaker 4: I have some things later. Oh this isn't fire yet.

590
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Speaker 2: This is just like.

591
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Speaker 4: Half of the show cheap cheap slash cap talk irritates me,

592
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Speaker 4: as you know, Oh yeah, yeah, so that's that's what thing.

593
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 4: I have some things later on about the wide receivers

594
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 4: and the different things that are starting to crawl up.

595
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Speaker 5: It's just coming from a place of hunger.

596
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 3: Probably like straw Man's arguments with these wide receivers right

597
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 3: now that I'm hearing on his shows.

598
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 4: It really drives me like people.

599
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 3: Are saying these things that like, oh, Deebo Samuel like

600
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Speaker 3: was out of shape and that's why the Patriots didn't

601
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Speaker 3: want him.

602
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Speaker 4: No, it's not a straw Man. That's what they were

603
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 4: told by whom. There was like three exposs of combine

604
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 4: tidbits over the weekend. One was mass Live, one was

605
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 4: the Hero.

606
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Speaker 3: They said, Debo is too fat to play for the Patriots.

607
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 4: Not a fit, not a fit, out of shape. I

608
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 4: don't know where I read it, but I read it.

609
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 4: I read it in one of those those things are

610
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Speaker 4: really crawling up myself.

611
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Speaker 2: I didn't read.

612
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Speaker 4: So let's just say he's not a fit and then

613
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Speaker 4: forget about the fat thing. Let's just say he's not

614
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Speaker 4: a fit. But I'll get I'll get my fire out,

615
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 4: all right, let's go because I like this one in

616
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 4: particular because I know how you feel Fred about the player. Okay,

617
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 4: so if you don't like Deebo Samuel right now because

618
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 4: you think he's past his prime, that's where I would fall.

619
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Speaker 4: I am not upset whatsoever the Patriots did get totally

620
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 4: because I think he's done. What did the kids say,

621
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Speaker 4: He's washed, cashed washed.

622
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Speaker 7: You're teaching me.

623
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Speaker 4: All right, I kind of think that's true. I think

624
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 4: there's a lot of wear and tear. I wouldn't necessarily

625
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Speaker 4: be interested in getting him. However, his skill set is

626
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Speaker 4: his skill set. I want to know what about Deebo

627
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Speaker 4: Samuel's skill set. A guy who can operate out of

628
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Speaker 4: the backfield, run as a ball carrier, catches a ton

629
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Speaker 4: of screens with yards have to catch, is very hard

630
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Speaker 4: to tackle, has the straight line speed still to make

631
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Speaker 4: plays down the field, and isn't an incredible yak machine.

632
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Speaker 4: He's a football to the point in twenty twenty one

633
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 4: he was arguably the best player in football. That's why

634
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 4: I look, what about that skill set doesn't fit with

635
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 4: what you're doing on offense.

636
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Speaker 3: A little bit of a little bit of John H.

637
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 3: Smith to him, where like you have to make manufacturer

638
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 3: touches right, like you have to find ways to scheme

639
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: him open. I'm telling you that you have to be

640
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 3: creative with Debo. And he's not one of those guys

641
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: that you are just gonna put into an offense and

642
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: say you're the Z and here's your route tree, and

643
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 3: this is what you're gonna do, and you're gonna be great.

644
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 3: Josh McDaniels' offense typically is not great with those types

645
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 3: of players, and I think the one that we go

646
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: back to all the time is Johnny Smith, who is

647
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 3: not exactly the same one for one type of player.

648
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 3: But again, you had to have like a creative plan

649
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 3: of how exactly are we going to get this guy

650
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 3: the ball? And twenty one they kind of forced it right,

651
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 3: like they kept on throwing him screens and things like

652
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: that to just try to make it happen, and it

653
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 3: just wasn't popping here in New England. Then he goes

654
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Speaker 3: to Miami and has a huge year with the Dolphins

655
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Speaker 3: last year because they're in this West Coast offense and he's,

656
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: you know, doing all these moving pockets and things like that,

657
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 3: and it's just different. It's just a different type of offense.

658
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: So I think with Debo there was some concern about

659
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,479
Speaker 3: that element that, you know, giving Josh McDaniels another scheme

660
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: touch player.

661
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 4: And I would argue you have a problem with your offense.

662
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you can't take advantage if you can't take it.

663
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 4: I'm not talking John Neu Smith, who's a pimple on

664
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 4: Deebo Samuel's backside. Okay, Deebo Samuel in twenty twenty one

665
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 4: was one of the three best players in football.

666
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: If you can't fit.

667
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 4: Him into your offense, your offense is the problem, not

668
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 4: debuilt Deebo Samuel. And this is why again I wanted

669
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 4: to do this with you, Fred, because I know what

670
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 4: you think of Samuel and is.

671
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: My favorite player.

672
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 4: Again, I'm not upset that they don't have Deebo Samuel.

673
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: Now.

674
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:37,959
Speaker 4: I think he's done.

675
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: I think he's.

676
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 4: He'll still be productive. He can still have like probably

677
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: some eight hundred yard seasons and be good. I think

678
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 4: he'd be value add with the Patriots right now, but

679
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 4: he's not prime to I think his best days are

680
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 4: behind him for the Commanders. Yeah, because I think that

681
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 4: that's a lot of the stuff that Washington does, a

682
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 4: lot of RPOs, a lot of hits. I think that

683
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 4: get the ball to that guy in space and he

684
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 4: makes place.

685
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 5: And you got Terry McLaurin already too.

686
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 4: But I don't like the idea of an offense that

687
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 4: can't use a guy like that, and that drives me insane.

688
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 3: I'm not saying they can't use that, it's just say no,

689
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: I know, but I'm not like saying that that line

690
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 3: of thinking is that they couldn't use him. I just

691
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: think that there's better guys that fit the offense better

692
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: than that. And if you're gonna pay, if that's gonna

693
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: be your splash and that's gonna be your move, then

694
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 3: you would like it to be a little bit better about.

695
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: On the other hand, like on the radio this morning

696
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: on one of Paul's shows, I heard one of Evans

697
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: guys like Daniels talking about DK Metcalf and saying that

698
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: he's not a fit. He may not be a fit

699
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: in Josh McDaniel's offense because he's not a good route run.

700
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: That's different.

701
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 4: This is all part of my thing.

702
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: No, but that's different. If you can't run good routes,

703
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: I can understand that. You know, if you're just a

704
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: straight you got problems.

705
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 4: Your offense is fuawed if it can't, you know, sort

706
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 4: of welcome different types of players with different skill sets.

707
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: I don't worry about that with DK because I think

708
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 3: that they've had enough guys you know, obviously like Randy

709
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 3: Moss is like the apex of it, but like even

710
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: Brandon Cooks, you know that that that they've used like

711
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 3: that as a true deep threat that Josh McDaniels has

712
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: worked with already. So I mean, he's not Randy Moss,

713
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 3: but like, can he run similar routes to Randy Moss?

714
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 4: And yeah, absolutely, I'm starting to figure out why they've

715
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 4: had such a hard time finding wide receivers because there's

716
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 4: like three that check every box that they want.

717
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: Right, They're too specific and that's.

718
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 4: A problem and it's why I kind of wanted to change.

719
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: It could be, it could be, And as I.

720
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 4: Came up with yesterday, I came up with an andyism

721
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 4: on the fly by you know, by accident. It was like,

722
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 4: until they change, things aren't going to change.

723
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: Right, Well, that's true, my brother goes that's really deep.

724
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: But maybe you know, Josh's year away and visiting you know,

725
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: different teams than the college in college football maybe helps them.

726
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, but like I do think they need

727
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: to be more.

728
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 4: But Evan's right, this is what you're hearing from a

729
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 4: lot of these guys, Like this guy's not a fit

730
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 4: because he's not a good route runner. This guy's not

731
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 4: a fix because he doesn't work well in the system.

732
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 4: This guy like it's like one excuse after another as

733
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 4: to why. And again I'm not advocating for any of

734
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 4: these individuals, but none of these guys, all these guys

735
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 4: that have had success in the NFL, none of these

736
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 4: guys would work well in Josh McDaniels' offense.

737
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 5: And how does he feel about the guys on the

738
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 5: roster right now though all those guys do fit or

739
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 5: there may be some moves.

740
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 4: Coming out evidently Javon Bakers, they according to all of

741
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 4: the anonymous sources.

742
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 5: I think that's what's interesting to me over the next

743
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 5: week and a half that's going to happen is, you know,

744
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 5: I don't know if anybody's gonna leave, but how do

745
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 5: they address that room? What I mean, we've all been

746
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 5: talking about it that we feel like they need at

747
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 5: least leadership, which isn't even one of these football traits

748
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 5: that you're talking about, Paul, But what are the football

749
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 5: traits of some of the guys that they do go inside?

750
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 4: And I do believe some of these you know, I

751
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 4: know they're all from unnamed sources and whatnot. But because

752
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 4: I I go back and I think when DK Metcalf

753
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 4: was coming out, my buddy Lombardi trashed him Kaneil Harry

754
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 4: and talked about how you're an idiot if you don't

755
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 4: think Kneil Harry is a better player than DK Metcalf,

756
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 4: if you recall, because Kneil can run all the rout

757
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 4: tree and DK Metcalf can only run in a straight line.

758
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 3: Two left feet. Yeah, DK coming out had the injuries.

759
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 3: He had like a neck back like grunk, like college injury.

760
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 3: And but I mean he was the best receiver in

761
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: his class, like just off of the tape, but he

762
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 3: had a lot of injury stuff. And then he showed

763
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 3: up to his combine meetings without a shirt on, and

764
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 3: that like rubbed some people the wrong way, and so

765
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 3: there was wrong. There's some things going on now. Pete

766
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 3: Carroll loved it clearly, but to the.

767
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 4: Point where people are saying he's probably gonna go to

768
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 4: the race.

769
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, p Carroll, I think took his own shirt off

770
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 3: to be on. I remember DK, but yeah, I mean

771
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: that everyone over thought DK.

772
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 4: And so the long story of this is for me

773
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 4: is like I guess Mike you're growing frustrated at like

774
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 4: being held hostage by the wide receiver. I'm growing frustrated

775
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 4: as like no one's good enough to play wide receiver

776
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 4: for the Patriots. Like I'm just getting sort of annoyed

777
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 4: by that, Like why can't the Patriots have one of

778
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 4: these shiny.

779
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 2: And toys to I think, And I'd be surprised myself

780
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: if Josh McDaniels isn't, you know, becoming a little bit

781
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: more flexible in who he wants, because now you have

782
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: a different quarterback than you had.

783
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 5: In the past.

784
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 2: This is a guy who you know you can do

785
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: things with. He's going to throw off platform as.

786
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 4: The ball no bigger part of my worry and not off.

787
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: You know, and extend plays. And so now you need

788
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: guys who can adjust to that. And so I hope

789
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: that McDaniels has taken and I can't imagine he's not.

790
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 2: He's a smart guy.

791
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 5: How much influence do you think the head coach has

792
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 5: on that with Josh versus you know, Bill versus Vabel

793
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 5: in terms of this is what I want? You know,

794
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 5: is it all just kind of Josh baking and saying

795
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: this is how the offense is gonna run or is

796
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 5: it you know some of that dictated by the head

797
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 5: coach Bill when he was here. Mike Rabel, Now I

798
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 5: want these style of guys. These are the you know,

799
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 5: this is what I'm looking for. I just I know

800
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 5: that that's probably always a fluid conversation. But I wonder

801
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 5: where I would.

802
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: Imagine, you know, Rabel's like, Josh, what are you thinking?

803
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 2: And Josh gives him his plan his blueprint and he

804
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: says I agree with that, or yeah, I'm not sure

805
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 2: about line three here, you know, Yeah, I would imagine

806
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: that's how it's working because Josh is the Josh is

807
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 2: the offensive expert.

808
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know about how that works, that dynamic.

809
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: I don't think that Josh has a ton of it

810
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 3: of saying it, to be honest with you, saying what

811
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 3: in personnel?

812
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: What about? But what about the the schematic direction of

813
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: the architecture of the offense.

814
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: I think it's his offense.

815
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 2: But so then he has to have input in the personnel.

816
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 3: I mean, he wasn't at the combine, he wasn't at

817
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 3: the Senior vill doesn't matter. Like I just don't think

818
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 3: that he's been too involved in all this. I just

819
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 3: don't like I and I'm not, like, I don't know,

820
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 3: I don't know for a fact. I just I don't

821
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 3: think that that's how it's being run. I think that

822
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 3: this is Raabel show, and I think that he has

823
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: his types of players that they're going after. You know,

824
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: he's talked a lot about basically every single time somebody

825
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 3: asks him about his ideal receiver, he describes Aj Brown right,

826
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 3: like a guy that has true it's got speed, contested, catchability,

827
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 3: great after the catch with the ball in his hands.

828
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: His prototypical wide receiver is AJ Brown. So it's not

829
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: one of these shifty slot receivers. It's not well, you know,

830
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: a Wes Welker Julian Edelman clone.

831
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 4: And I would worry that Josh would say he doesn't

832
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 4: work well off.

833
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think that's you know, he's he's.

834
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 4: Not really you know, shifty. He's not overly versatile, like

835
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 4: he's gonna be downfield outside like so, so what.

836
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 3: I don't worry too much about that because Josh has

837
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 3: done it with multiple types of receivers throughout his career,

838
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 3: Like he had for every Wes Welker, He's had a

839
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 3: Randy Moss for every Randy Moss he's had a Brandon Cooks.

840
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 3: For every Brandon Cooks, he's had Davonte Adams, he's had

841
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: Jakobi Meyer's playing the slot, who's a different type of

842
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 3: player than Edelman and Welker were. Like, they've done it

843
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 3: with different types of receivers. So I'm not like overly

844
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: concerned about all of that. I just I do think

845
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 3: that when you're gonna spend that kind of money, and

846
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 3: I think this is something else that Rabel said at

847
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: the combine as well, if you are going to pay

848
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 3: a receiver thirty million dollars a year, then he better

849
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: fit your offense. Like, don't just pay a guy thirty

850
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: million dollars a year because he's a name that everybody

851
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 3: recognized him.

852
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: Well, but going back to what Paul says, what you

853
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 2: just said, if you're paying him thirty million dollars, he

854
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: better fit your offense. How about if you're paying him

855
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: thirty million dollars, you better make something work for him.

856
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 4: And how about when the guys are that good to

857
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 4: just use some of the names that Evan just pointed out,

858
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 4: Randy Moss, DeVante Adams, I don't really care what they're

859
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 4: necessarily there's strengths and weaknesses are in terms of this

860
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 4: skill set, they're so good they're going to succeed no

861
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 4: matter what. Devonte Adams had a thousand yards last year,

862
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 4: and I know that part of that was because Aaron

863
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 4: Rodgers was like making sure that he was getting it.

864
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 4: But he still is that good that even on a

865
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 4: crap team, in a crap year, he's still gonna produce.

866
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 4: You know, Jacoby Myers, that's exactly what they've always done.

867
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 4: Those are the guys that have always been able to succeed,

868
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 4: like those slot guys that you know, he's not little,

869
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 4: but he's a slot guy.

870
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: He's a he's but he's not an explosive player.

871
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 4: No, I would say that. I would say he's much

872
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 4: closer to Welker in in Edelman and Amadolt. He's not

873
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 4: as shifty as those guys, but he's much closer to

874
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 4: that than Brandon Cook's. Brandon Cooks was a much different

875
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 4: but again he I'm going to give the credit for

876
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 4: Brandon Cooks working to Brandon Cooks.

877
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: He's worked everywhere, everywhere he goes he gets a thousand

878
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: yards Mount Cook's top.

879
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 4: I'm going to die on Mount Cooks.

880
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 2: All right, Brandon from lex Vegas and he means Lexington Mass.

881
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 2: I don't know that was the other.

882
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 5: I've only heard mar Vegas.

883
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, did I miss something? Doesn't Shador to the Giants

884
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: was basically a lock. If that is true, and cam

885
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: Ward is also now considered a lock to go one

886
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: or two, then that would guarantee the Patriots either Abdul

887
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: Carter or Travis Hunter. I haven't heard, haven't heard to

888
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: the Giants. I've heard as.

889
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 4: Many people say Shador out of the top twenty as

890
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 4: I've heard yeah, people saying that he will go in

891
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 4: the top.

892
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 3: There was a canoodling of sorts at the Shrine Bowl

893
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 3: between Brian Dable and Shador Sanders that and somebody caught

894
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: it on iPhone video that went around during Shrine Bowl

895
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 3: time where Brian Dable and Shador were chopping it up

896
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 3: and seemed to be having a grand old time together.

897
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 3: And so then some people took that and said Chaudor

898
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 3: to the Giants. He also there's something with like him

899
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 3: and Malik neighbors during the Heisman ceremony, like they like

900
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: met up in New York or something like that at

901
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 3: that point. So there's been some you know, the emailer

902
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: is not totally out of left field. Like there's been

903
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 3: some tea leaves to read about that, but recently I

904
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 3: agree with Paul. It's some people think he's not even

905
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 3: a first round pick, and then other people think that

906
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 3: he's going to Overall, it's like kind of all over

907
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 3: the place.

908
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of stuff with him.

909
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 5: If I had to bet now, I think he's he's

910
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 5: going to go in the first round, though I would

911
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 5: say that's mine in.

912
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 2: The first round.

913
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go in there.

914
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 4: I would probably guess first round. But I do not

915
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 4: think he's going in the top three.

916
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 5: It would be great be here for the Patriots.

917
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 4: I don't think both of those guys are going in

918
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 4: the top three.

919
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: Eight five five Pats five hundred is the Patriots unfiltered hotline.

920
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: Hot line hot line. Let's go to Deshaun in Virginia.

921
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: What's up to Shawn?

922
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 10: I was gonna think that, you know, when it comes

923
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 10: to draft philosophy, if they because they're like trying to, hey, hopothetically,

924
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 10: if this stuff does work, they get DK mack up

925
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 10: with see Higgins within the trade or whatever, and then

926
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 10: of course to the cha target Harrold and they end

927
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 10: up to get that player everything works, Uh, that means

928
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 10: that it will probably make a lot more sense for

929
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 10: them to trade that number four pick, like traded down

930
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 10: to accumulate more if everything works out with in their

931
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 10: favorite as far as trying to get those players.

932
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 5: What you gotta think, Yeah, I agree on hundred percent

933
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 5: with everything he just said.

934
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what he said any of that.

935
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 10: Repeated real quick.

936
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, again, trying to follow you that.

937
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 10: What I'm saying is like, say, how pathetically if this

938
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 10: stuff does work like they were able to get DK

939
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 10: metcalf or see Higgins within that trade, say like it

940
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 10: was like four ever took it like a second round

941
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 10: fIF and her reports he is trying to get Harold from.

942
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: Tennessee Harold Landry. Yeah.

943
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, So that means that if everything works out smoothly

944
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 10: and they able to get the guys they want to

945
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 10: get in part the prey when also into the trade,

946
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 10: that means they went to trade that fourth picked down

947
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 10: to accumulate more.

948
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: Fits well, I mean, you know when you start talking

949
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: about trading the fourth down, now you're talking about, like,

950
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: you know, guys who may or may not even make

951
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: the team. I think he's talking about the fourth the

952
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: fourth overall pick. Oh okay, I'm sorry.

953
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 5: I mean I mean the overall pick to make the team.

954
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 4: No.

955
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 2: I mean, look, if you do, if you do really

956
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: well in free agency, there is that temptation to, yes,

957
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: trade that, but you have to have a partner to

958
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 2: do that. Who's gonna want to trade up?

959
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think you want to trade out of the

960
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 3: fourth overall regardless of what happens in free agency.

961
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: You want to, But like, can you?

962
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: I don't think right? But I exactly, I mean, but

963
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 3: I don't.

964
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 4: Know how many I don't know how many multiple pics

965
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 4: you're stockpiling, depending on how far down you.

966
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 5: Go, because who are they trading up for? For? Who

967
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 5: dos somebody absolutely have to have and go get.

968
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: The only way The only question is I think with

969
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: four and it's kind of contradictory to wanting the two

970
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 3: quarterbacks to go in the top three. But let's say

971
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 3: Shador Sanders is still on the board at four overall,

972
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 3: and somebody wants to get to the front of the

973
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: line and they don't want to wait and see if

974
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: the Raiders are going to take him at six. So

975
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 3: the Saints jumped the Raiders from four to nine. To

976
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 3: get Shador or whatever the case may be, to make

977
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 3: that happen so that you don't get you don't lose

978
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 3: your guide. You know, if I fix something.

979
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 4: To maximize it. The most picks that you could probably

980
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 4: get would be if the two quarterbacks went in the

981
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 4: top three and you just decided, Okay, I can take

982
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 4: Travis Hunter, or I can get a stockpile of picks.

983
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 2: That's my choice because somebody loves because.

984
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 4: Someone is going to want abdul Cat or Travis Hunter

985
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 4: that much to be able to give you the picks

986
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 4: that you want.

987
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like say no, Yeah, It's like the Will

988
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 3: Anderson trade from with the Texans a couple of years

989
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 3: ago that they just loved Will Anderson, so they traded up,

990
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: I think from twelve to back up into the top

991
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 3: five to draft Will Anderson. I think they drafted Stroud

992
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 3: and Anderson back to back, so.

993
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 2: Two and three. I think, right, Nate's in Connecticut, Hey, Nate.

994
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 11: Hike you guys hear me?

995
00:44:59,040 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: Yes?

996
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 12: All right?

997
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 11: So I had I had a couple of questions about

998
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 11: some free agents and stuff. Uh So, based on a

999
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 11: couple of reports I heard from today and yesterday, Alex

1000
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 11: Austin and Christian Ellis start coming back under tenders.

1001
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 3: Really solid players.

1002
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 11: From the season, especially Alex Austin. Uh, he's been pretty great.

1003
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 11: He was pretty good in the Indianapolis game. And then

1004
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 11: I also had a question about Austin Hooper. He's been

1005
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 11: a really reliable tight end too, uh parry with Hunter

1006
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 11: Henry Uh he caught that that fourth and twenty two

1007
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 11: bombs from Drake van Miami, which was pretty awesome. But

1008
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 11: would you, uh, would you like to sign him back

1009
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 11: or he would he be a good player to come

1010
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 11: back next year or should we let him walk? And

1011
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 11: I also my last question for you guys is would

1012
00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 11: you be opposed to UH drafting another running back to

1013
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 11: join the competition between Remondre Stevenson and uh uh Antonio.

1014
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: Gibson later in the draft.

1015
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 11: Stevenson has had his like fungble issues and then Gibson

1016
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 11: has also had his issues, so it wouldn't be bad

1017
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 11: to have another running back in the competition. But yeah,

1018
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 11: that's what I have for you guys.

1019
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: Think, Okay, thanks, The running back's easy. Yeah. Later in

1020
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: the draft shore good draft. In terms of Austin Hooper,

1021
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 2: he's he's a free agent right Yeah, he's a piece

1022
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 2: like I thought.

1023
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 4: I think State's right. I think he was a good

1024
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 4: solid number two. Uh, you know, compliment to Hunter Henry.

1025
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 4: I think he could probably do better. But you know,

1026
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 4: at what cost do you want to? You know, I should?

1027
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 4: You know, Evan's still in this dark place about the draft.

1028
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: Harry Dark, Tyler Warren, you know this dark room I'm in.

1029
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 4: Is he is he on? You know? Is he on

1030
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 4: the table that first round pick?

1031
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 5: How do you feel about Jahem Bell as well? Who

1032
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 5: was you know, behind the scenes?

1033
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: A little lesson through us about that? You know?

1034
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think you just under if you know,

1035
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 3: to give Hooper spot to a guy you draft, he

1036
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 3: doesn't even have to be Tyler Warren. It's a great

1037
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 3: tight end class. You might be able to draft somebody

1038
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 3: on day two. Ye you know, Mason Taylor, Terrence Ferguson,

1039
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 3: Harold Fannin, Like, go right down the line and you

1040
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 3: draft one of those guys, and now you have to

1041
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 3: give that guy reps because you just drafted him with

1042
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 3: a top one hundred pick. So that probably knocks Hooper

1043
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 3: out in the last.

1044
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 4: It'll be interesting to see when the timing goes because

1045
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 4: free agency obviously is before the draft.

1046
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Hooper was an it was a Van Pelt guy.

1047
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 3: I think that's important to mention as well that he

1048
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 3: came here because he had been with Alex Van Pelt

1049
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 3: in Cleveland and in the system before. So he's not

1050
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 3: a Josh guy. So I don't I don't know, it.

1051
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 4: Doesn't fit well, Jo.

1052
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 3: I didn't say that. I just said that I'm.

1053
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 4: Taking a lot of shots at boy Josh literally for

1054
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 4: Alex van Pelt, like, I totally agree with you, totally.

1055
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 3: Running back spring them.

1056
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. And in terms of Austin and Ellis, I mean

1057
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: you need those guys too.

1058
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 4: Alex Austin's exclusive right free agency, we had no options.

1059
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 4: Chris Nowis was a restricted free agent, so he really

1060
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 4: had no options, and he was tendered at the lowest

1061
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 4: tender right.

1062
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 5: The right of your first refuse.

1063
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: But you need to fill out your.

1064
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 4: Roster and there and that does not guarantee that those

1065
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 4: guys will be on the roster. No.

1066
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 5: I mean, of all those r f A and exclusive

1067
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 5: right free agents, I do like Alex Austin, I just

1068
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 5: tough starts of the year. Couldn't separate from Marco Wilson.

1069
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 5: A lot of competition, but he's got okay size and

1070
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 5: another guy that I think you've invested a little bit in,

1071
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 5: and you know, similar to like we said with Trey

1072
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 5: Jacobs as the tackle, Like is he the answer? Maybe not,

1073
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 5: but still somebody that you've invested in, and I think

1074
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 5: deserves a chance to get through the offseason and see

1075
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 5: if they can make some strides within the systems, see

1076
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 5: how they fit with Josh all that stuff.

1077
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 3: He's been a strong two years in a row. Alex Austen,

1078
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 3: He's had some rough patches in between, but two good

1079
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: strong Justin's in Kansas City.

1080
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 5: Hey, Justin, there's elder two nice. I was wondering all that.

1081
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 13: Yeah, Hey, hey, So something I kind of wanted you

1082
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 13: guys that analyze a little bit is like the Brown

1083
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 13: situation is really interesting, right, So, like their bottom ten

1084
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 13: and cat space, and I don't think they necessarily get

1085
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 13: like the big splash veteran quarterback because like they're just

1086
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 13: such in a bad place with cat spaces, and if

1087
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 13: you're gonna find Miles Garrett, you might need to explore

1088
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 13: the route of getting like a rookie quarterback. But like,

1089
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 13: what do you guys kind of think of their situation.

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Speaker 3: I would say that they're the most likely team out

1091
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 3: of the top three to draft a quarterback. There. He's

1092
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 3: you know, Justin's pretty much right, and they not only

1093
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 3: do they need to all that with the cap and everything,

1094
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 3: but they need to get something to distract from the

1095
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson debacle, like in a young quarterback like cam

1096
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 3: Ward comes in and maybe you know, impresses a little bit.

1097
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 3: That's a nice way to you know, forget about that.

1098
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 2: Deal with Watson is he's still on the team. Yeah,

1099
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 2: and even if they released him, they they still get

1100
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: a huge cap.

1101
00:49:59,560 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1102
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 3: Now I would think that, you know, they could russell

1103
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 3: Wilson it and just release them anyways like Denver did

1104
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 3: and just and just for a year. They're just kind

1105
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 3: of in a tough spot with it, and then we'll

1106
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 3: go away and then just like the Broncos, did you

1107
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: draft Bo Nicks, you know, you draft cam Ward and

1108
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 3: you have a quarterback that's affordable on the rookie contract

1109
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 3: for the year. So I think got Giants, Browns, Titans,

1110
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 3: they're the most likely quarterback team.

1111
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: The Browns. Yeah, thanks Justin. Let's go to Christian in LA.

1112
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: What's up, Christian?

1113
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 14: How are you going to do it today?

1114
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 10: Okay, great, Well, first, before I give my well thought

1115
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 10: out and scripted.

1116
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 14: Question here, as a caller last week alluded to, I

1117
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 14: would like to say the reason why I mentioned the

1118
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 14: tax brackets that were in the Palace state last week

1119
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 14: because we were talking about exclusive clubs and things like that.

1120
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 14: That's the break immediate stuff was happening. And I haven't

1121
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 14: lived in a place where there is a tax bracket

1122
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,959
Speaker 14: that those kinds of people hang out in, which I've

1123
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 14: said several times I know and hasn't had. That's something

1124
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 14: that's put in the fire.

1125
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 11: I don't know why.

1126
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 14: It's just touched the nerve and there you go to gentlemen,

1127
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 14: if you're listening, Okay, sorry.

1128
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 4: Your voiceover IP is not is very Yeah, just continuing

1129
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,439
Speaker 4: the listener on listener crime for it.

1130
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 2: Keep going well.

1131
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 15: Anyway, my football question, that's better, And yet I have

1132
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 15: thought about it before I called in, like I think

1133
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 15: most people should. Couldn't make for a decent question. If

1134
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 15: we could pick up Joey Botha, which I believe we

1135
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 15: should be on, we should send an airplane down to

1136
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 15: get him and just not let him get off the

1137
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 15: airplane without signing with US and Chris Godwin. Would you

1138
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 15: guys think it would be a be a breach to

1139
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 15: try to maybe find a trading partner to trade up

1140
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 15: to get Travis Hunter a round out our defense, or

1141
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 15: trade down and take someone like a asking gent to

1142
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 15: make a flash like you know in the backfield.

1143
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 2: It off. So I guess your premise is that if

1144
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: you pick up Bosa and you pick up Godwin, you're

1145
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: addressing two needs, which is pressure on the quarterback and

1146
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 2: a wide receiver, and then kind of and then you

1147
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 2: can afford to maybe give up some assets to get

1148
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter. I guess is that what.

1149
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 3: If you I love Christian but you're gonna have to

1150
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 3: take away my shoelaces if that's the off season like that,

1151
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 3: therese are two guys that are being injured and have

1152
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 3: some serious concerns about what's left in the tank. In

1153
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 3: Bosa's case.

1154
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 4: I don't think Joey Bosa saws your past rushing year. Yeah,

1155
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,479
Speaker 4: I think he's a good player, but he's almost never

1156
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 4: at And what do you have like five sacks last year?

1157
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 3: I don't nine seasons. Not a guy he's thirty years old.

1158
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 5: Then they got no bodies at the position so I

1159
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 5: wouldn't just dismiss him completely, but I know I wouldn't,

1160
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 5: but that's not the answer.

1161
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 2: I would be better a minimum contract.

1162
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 4: I'd be interested in Joey Bosa as one of those

1163
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 4: sort of mid tier like veterans, stop gap kind of guys. Yeah,

1164
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 4: because I think he can play. But I'm not signing

1165
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 4: Joey Bosa and saying my pass rush issues have been solved. No,

1166
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 4: he's not that player anymore, and he's never really been

1167
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 4: as productive as his brother. Nick has been the better

1168
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 4: player in San Francisco than Joey, much better.

1169
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, would you say he was at the level of

1170
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 2: guy went from Denver to Buffalo nov Miller?

1171
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 4: No, no, never approached that. Okay, von Miller is offensive

1172
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 4: Player of the Year.

1173
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 2: But at the time he went to Buffalo, where was

1174
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: he or where? It's still better than this? Still better

1175
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: than him? Okay, I'm just asking, but bite my head.

1176
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 4: No, I mean von Miller is a Hall of Fame

1177
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 4: caliber player. Yeah, I don't think Joey Bosas sniff.

1178
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 2: That Eldred's in North Carolina.

1179
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 4: On Joey Bosa.

1180
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: Okay, Eldrid.

1181
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 11: In the Divisional round awful a little bit.

1182
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 12: So we U from the form, the phones, the situation.

1183
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 3: But I gotta trade.

1184
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 12: But you shot it up yesterday me and that me

1185
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 12: and if Alice liked it. But I don't think Evan did.

1186
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: Shocker, But I'm DK metcalf. I'm gonna guess most definitely.

1187
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 2: I know my eldred trade.

1188
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 12: Four for they eighteen and they third and get DK.

1189
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 3: So we're trade what are we trading?

1190
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: Oh?

1191
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 12: We traded in our four good day eight good day

1192
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 12: eighteen and they number three day number two.

1193
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 3: And DK forgetting they're coming up to four eighteen two

1194
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:47,959
Speaker 3: and DK, Yeah, eighteen three inde, I mean I would

1195
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 3: do it, but that's why I don't think you're gonna

1196
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 3: get that much back.

1197
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 12: But why not because you're moving up to four?

1198
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I get it, but better than DK. Yeah,

1199
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 3: but DK, you you think is probably considered to be

1200
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 3: like a low first high second value. So like they're

1201
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 3: kind of already giving a.

1202
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 12: Second third, but they got him in the third in nineteen.

1203
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but what is he now?

1204
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1205
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 12: I mean I understand it, but yeah, okay, the first

1206
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 12: first and the four and DK, But like I said,

1207
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 12: you gotta give us another pick. It's just that eight

1208
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 12: what you got because they're gonna trade with the Rams

1209
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 12: for twenty three and the wide receiver. I'd be damned

1210
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 12: if they want to come up four and.

1211
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 5: Do that one, I know.

1212
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: But they're looking for a first and the third, right,

1213
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 2: that's what they said.

1214
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 4: They've said that on on the record, that they're looking

1215
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 4: for for that. I don't think that they have any

1216
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 4: chance of getting a first and the third.

1217
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 2: I don't either, but that tells me they're not going

1218
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 2: to give them away right right, they're looking.

1219
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,959
Speaker 4: They'll just keep them rather than give them away.

1220
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 3: I think they're looking. I think that, you know, Bill

1221
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 3: Barnwell Road in the ESPN that like their metrics, like

1222
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: think that it's like a low first high second round

1223
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 3: pick would be like fair compensation for so like you

1224
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 3: could put thirty eight on the table and maybe something else,

1225
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 3: you know, for DK, you know, thirty eight and maybe

1226
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 3: a mid round pick and like Kendrick Bourne, like basically

1227
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 3: the deal they were gonna make for Brandon that you know,

1228
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: I think that that's realistic.

1229
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, thanks Aldred.

1230
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm glad Eldrick called in because one of the

1231
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 5: DK stuff broke. He was the first person I.

1232
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 3: Thought, oh yeah, he called in to catch twenty two.

1233
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 5: He's got like, oh yeah, trade diagrams up. He's like,

1234
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 5: we're gonna make this happen finally.

1235
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, lots of emails calls coming in. We're

1236
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: gonna get to more of them right after this.

1237
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Speaker 9: It's another addition of pats from the past, and we're

1257
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 9: pleased to be joined by the best tight end in

1258
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 9: franchise history. Paul, is it the best tight end in

1259
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 9: NFL history?

1260
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 4: We're going to get to that landa. I'm going to

1261
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 4: get that out of.

1262
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 9: Here here, Paul Parlo here, he's number eighty seven on

1263
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 9: your scorecard, but number one in everybody's hearts.

1264
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 6: Rob Gronkowski, what an introduction, guys. I appreciate that love,

1265
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 6: Thank you.

1266
00:57:58,640 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: I play really for number.

1267
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 6: One organization of all times as well, So it was

1268
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 6: a great matchup to have the number one tight end

1269
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 6: pointing for the number one organization.

1270
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 2: Baby, that's what's up.

1271
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 9: Brian where comes here and does some stuff with us,

1272
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 9: And I was asking him. He told me he had

1273
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 9: you want as a guest the other day and I said, Brian,

1274
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 9: let me ask you a question. Go back to the

1275
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 9: Pittsburgh game. His rookie year was Zach GRONKX coming out party.

1276
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 9: He goes, that's a pretty good one. I mean it

1277
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 9: was Sunday night football, right, three touchdowns bounds, and I

1278
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 9: mean I think people saw that who covered the team

1279
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 9: or who was around the team, watched the team, knew

1280
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 9: that there was something. Did you feel like that night,

1281
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 9: like I'm sort of putting the league on notice here.

1282
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 9: You're not saying that, I'm saying that, but watch out.

1283
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 4: You know that's a good point.

1284
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 6: It definitely was my coming out party to everyone that

1285
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 6: was a fan of the New England Patriots. But I

1286
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 6: can tell you this, the game before, which was my

1287
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 6: worst game of my career with the New England Patriots,

1288
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 6: that was my true coming out party. And I'll explain why.

1289
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 6: That was the first game that I truly was in

1290
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 6: the game plan every single play, and I was a

1291
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 6: big part of the game plan. And I absolutely dominated

1292
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 6: in the blocking scheme of that game. And I had

1293
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 6: a lot of great plays as well. In the past game.

1294
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 6: I think I had about six catches for about eighty yards.

1295
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 6: It's just a rookie, this is I'm talking. This was

1296
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 6: a game right before the Pittsburgh Steelers game. But here's

1297
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 6: the thing. I had a fumble on our own two

1298
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 6: yard line. I caught a little hook route five yards

1299
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 6: and then I saw the end zone about four more

1300
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 6: yards ahead of me. So I just tried, you know,

1301
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 6: barreling through about four players, and let me tell you

1302
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 6: didn't work out. And they hit the ball out of

1303
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 6: my hand and I fumbled it.

1304
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 2: And then I also.

1305
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 6: Had had a fumble I on the kickoff return.

1306
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 2: I was a wingman. I went to fair ketch it.

1307
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 6: Sammy Morris was in the back, and then he thought

1308
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 6: I was gonna fair catch it, so then he let

1309
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 6: it go.

1310
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 2: I let it go and then it hit the.

1311
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 6: Ground and the Cleveland Browns, you know, picked up that

1312
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 6: fumble recovery right there on the kick off return. So

1313
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 6: therefore I was the reason for two turnovers. So when

1314
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 6: you're the reason for two turnovers.

1315
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 2: Monday must suck.

1316
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 6: Nothing else that you did in that game matter, no

1317
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 6: matter how good you played. But let me tell you,

1318
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 6: besides those two turnovers, having that fumble on our on

1319
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 6: our going into the end zone on the two yard line,

1320
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 6: and that fumble on the kickoff return, I had one

1321
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 6: of my best games as a rookie, but it was

1322
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 6: so overshadow. So that's why I truly believe that was

1323
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 6: my breakout game. And also really I learned a lot

1324
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 6: as well because of those situations and because of those

1325
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 6: two plays and Therefore, I had the confidence actually going

1326
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 6: into the Pittsburgh game because I knew I played so well.

1327
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 6: It's just that I had those two mistakes. And now

1328
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 6: I swear that's what led to the three touchdowns because

1329
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 6: I knew I could go out there and ball because

1330
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 6: of that Cleveland game.

1331
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 5: I just had to clean it up a little bit.

1332
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 4: Matt Cleveland game. You know what that was?

1333
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 2: Game with name? Right?

1334
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 4: That was the Peyton Hillis game.

1335
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 2: Yah's right, that was Theyton Hillis game.

1336
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think was a rookie quarterback.

1337
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 6: It was like the first time tom Asti a rookie

1338
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 6: quarterback and along absolutely.

1339
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1340
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 6: So it was one of our two losses that year. Actually,

1341
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 6: I think we ended up fourteen and two. He lost

1342
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 6: to the Browns.

1343
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 4: Yep, that is accurate. I wanted to like getting back

1344
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,919
Speaker 4: to that rookie year. You come in, Billy Oh is there,

1345
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 4: and you know you and Aaron are both a huge part.

1346
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 4: Right away of the offense. There's two tight end stuff

1347
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 4: and eventually Billy Oh starts that that really up temple.

1348
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 4: I think that was eleven, right, twenty eleven, that up tempo,

1349
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 4: really high powered offense, fast fast temple. What was it

1350
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 4: like to play in that that scheme, it looked like

1351
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 4: you guys just couldn't be stopped.

1352
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, that scheme was called Nascar. NASCAR, and it actually

1353
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:44,959
Speaker 6: makes sense NASCAR because you're.

1354
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: Going so I knew there was a name for it.

1355
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 6: But I'm getting older, I know, hey, hey, hey, that

1356
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 6: happens to me all the time. And actually I was

1357
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 6: talking to Julian Edelman and he brought up NASCAR. And

1358
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 6: that's why I know that the term name is NASCAR,

1359
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 6: because he just brought it up to me a couple

1360
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 6: of days ago, So now it's fresh in my mind.

1361
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 5: I would have been sitting.

1362
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 6: Here like, ah, what's the what's the uh, what's the

1363
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 6: what's the call?

1364
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 4: When you go really fast again?

1365
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 6: And it's not the turbo two minute drill, but it's

1366
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 6: not the two minute drill because we're ten minutes into

1367
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 6: the second quarter. But it's NASCAR, And that makes total

1368
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 6: sense why it's called NASCAR. And you had all just

1369
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 6: one word terms to know where you lined up, and

1370
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 6: you hurried up to the line of scrimmage and you go.

1371
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 6: But what made it, you know, what made it work

1372
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 6: is because all the players were on the same page.

1373
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 6: And when you have a guy like Tom Brady, who's

1374
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 6: so efficient and so on top of it, he can manage,

1375
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 6: you know, you can manage everyone on the field to

1376
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 6: where they need to be in such a short period

1377
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 6: of time. So then it's a vantage on the offense

1378
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 6: side of the ball because the defense is still trying

1379
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 6: to get lined up and wonder where everyone is and

1380
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 6: who has who, who's covering who. So it kind of,

1381
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 6: you know, dismantled the defense in the way, and then

1382
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 6: you take advantage of that and you just hit the

1383
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 6: open guy really quick. But NASCAR could have definitely not

1384
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 6: happened our rookie year, especially with the players that we

1385
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 6: had myself, you know, Aaron as well, and a couple

1386
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 6: other guys that were young, because we're still learning the

1387
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 6: ins and outs of the NFL. I was still struggling

1388
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 6: with the playbook. And that's actually why I truly didn't

1389
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 6: really play all the plays my rookie year. Like the

1390
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 6: first eight games, I played like twenty plays only because

1391
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 6: those are the only twenty plays that they trusted in

1392
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 6: me that I knew, and all the other ones I was,

1393
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 6: you know, I was kind of messing up on. So

1394
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 6: if you don't have the trust of your teammates and coaches.

1395
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 6: They're not going to play you no matter how good

1396
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 6: you are. So the playbook was, you know, a high

1397
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 6: difficulty skill. There's no doubt about that, especially for myself.

1398
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 6: So going into our second year is kind of when

1399
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 6: NASCAR got introduced, and that's when you kind of understand

1400
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 6: the playbook a lot better, and then you can handle

1401
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 6: the you know, the terms or just one word means

1402
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 6: the whole entire play because then you understand the whole

1403
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 6: entire play already. Now you can handle just a one

1404
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 6: word and you know what to do. So when we

1405
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 6: put that in and implemented it, it was such an

1406
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 6: advantage and we absolutely dominated teams because of it.

1407
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 9: You talk about trust, how did you earn Tom's trust?

1408
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 2: Rob?

1409
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 9: Is what eight nine year difference between you guys. He's

1410
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 9: smart enough to go, Holy smokes, this kid catch radius.

1411
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 9: Look at what he can do. This guy's going to

1412
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 9: be able to help me. But the way that you

1413
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 9: were in the trust in your combination together, you're talking

1414
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 9: about one of the best quarterback receiver combinations, whether you're

1415
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 9: you know, tie or whatever in the history of the league.

1416
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 9: That doesn't happen by chance. What went into that relationship

1417
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 9: where you became such a valued like he knew we

1418
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 9: were going to be all the time, you knew the communication, whatever.

1419
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 9: It was something special that people haven't really seen a

1420
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 9: lot of.

1421
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 6: It was a really really special connection. Might possibly be

1422
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 6: one of the best connections of all time, possibly one

1423
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 6: of the best quarterback tight end connections of all time.

1424
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 6: And not just that just just ball passer to ball receiver,

1425
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 6: you know, just just the aspect of the whole entire game,

1426
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 6: not just one position quarterback to a wide receiver, but

1427
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 6: just overall, just as a whole.

1428
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 2: It could have been one of the best connections. It's

1429
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 2: up there.

1430
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 6: I believe it's up there too. I mean, we've done

1431
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 6: some incredible things. But we had actually you said eight

1432
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 6: to nine year age difference, it's actually a twelve year

1433
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 6: age difference. I was twenty one years old. He was

1434
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 6: thirty three years old. I was still both supposed to

1435
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 6: be a senior in college. He was just married kids.

1436
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 6: I mean, we had two totally different lifestyles. The age gap,

1437
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 6: you know, was tremendous as well, so you know, but

1438
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 6: the thing is is that we both wanted to be great. Obviously,

1439
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 6: we all knew Tom wanted to be great already, but

1440
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 6: as a rookie, I wanted to be great as well.

1441
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 6: And what got us on the same page, what built

1442
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 6: that chemistry was the work that we put out on.

1443
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 2: The practice field.

1444
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 6: And it wasn't just a practice field either, you know,

1445
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 6: during the practice time, it was after practice as well.

1446
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 6: And I was just reminiscing with Brian Hoyer actually about

1447
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 6: on his podcast the other day, is that Brian Hoyer

1448
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 6: and Tom would say after practice my rookie season, it

1449
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 6: would just be myself and I would be running an

1450
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 6: actura fifteen to twenty different every single practice after practice,

1451
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 6: just so I can get on the same page as

1452
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 6: Tom and the quarterbacks because they saw greatness in me.

1453
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 6: And when you see greatness in a player, Tom wanted

1454
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 6: to exploit that greatness and bring it out and so

1455
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 6: that player could be as great as they possibly could be.

1456
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 6: And as a rookie, you know, sometimes I didn't understand that.

1457
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 6: It's like I just want to go home. I gotta

1458
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 6: go out, I gotta I gotta go to this restaurant,

1459
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 6: meet meet this girl, meet this friend, meet my brother,

1460
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 6: meet my family or whatever.

1461
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 9: So he's gotta be not busting your balls but like, dude,

1462
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 9: I know you're twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, you've

1463
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 9: got greatness in you. You better get your ass in

1464
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 9: here tomorrow and get your head straight because I'm counting

1465
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 9: on you and we're counting on you. Those words must

1466
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 9: have like that.

1467
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 2: That's serious.

1468
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 6: Yes, definitely serious, And that's basically is what happened. You know,

1469
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 6: it was setting those terms, not exactly like that, but

1470
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 6: definitely in those terms. And you know, we built that

1471
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 6: it through throughout time. It wasn't like hey, just one night.

1472
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 6: You know, you know, Brady the Gronk, they're on fire.

1473
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 6: That connection is unstoppable. It was built over a year.

1474
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 6: You know, that trust was built over a year of

1475
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 6: practice and hard work, and it really built going into

1476
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 6: my second year. Yeah, we had some great times my

1477
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 6: my rookie year, those three touchdown game, you know in

1478
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 6: the playoffs. I had a couple of catches as well,

1479
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 6: the game that we lost actually versus the Jets, which stunk,

1480
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 6: you know, which stunk. That was a bad exit my

1481
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 6: rookie year out of the playoffs, But uh, it happens.

1482
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 6: But uh there's a couple other times, I know my

1483
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 6: rookie season two where you know, he just didn't trust

1484
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 6: me yet either.

1485
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 2: I was.

1486
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 6: I was on fire the week before, but as a rookie,

1487
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 6: then the next week would show up and I would

1488
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 6: be just totally dismantled and not doing what he wanted

1489
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 6: me to do.

1490
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 2: And then I didn't see.

1491
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, the consistency, You're right, it was not there. And

1492
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 6: then going into my second year, everything was clicking a

1493
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 6: lot better. You know, you get a little break from

1494
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 6: from the game of football because you have the off season,

1495
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,959
Speaker 6: you come back and just everything was firing. I totally

1496
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 6: understood what he wanted out of me. I totally understood

1497
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 6: what the coaches wanted out of me, and I totally

1498
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 6: understood where I wanted to go to and I knew

1499
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 6: what I had to do to get to that level

1500
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,479
Speaker 6: I wanted to be at and boom from there on out.

1501
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 6: Going into my second season, all that hard work though

1502
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 6: that we did my rookie year finally paid off and

1503
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 6: it all started clicking. It made so much sense why

1504
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 6: we were running all those extra routes, why he wanted

1505
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 6: me where he wanted me out on the field, because

1506
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 6: that's where he wanted to place the ball away from

1507
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 6: the defender. All that little detail and all that good stuff.

1508
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:32,520
Speaker 6: So it took a good solid year to have that chemistry.

1509
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 6: And then from yere on out, you just you just

1510
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 6: you know, just get smarter, just build upon it and

1511
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 6: build upon it. But that chemistry will would always be

1512
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 6: there from there on.

1513
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 2: And now great moments history. How are we going to

1514
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 2: do this? Who's gonna go first?

1515
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 4: Well, I have it, Mike, alex Evan, Paul Fred, Mike Evan.

1516
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 5: That clockwise?

1517
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 3: What's clockwise?

1518
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Speaker 5: It's not even an option, were you no, only a

1554
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Speaker 5: little bit in the past of college football games where

1555
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Speaker 5: like I knew I was going to be in a

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Speaker 5: place watching a certain game, and I would, you know,

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Speaker 5: put a little like do a parlay, like nothing crazy.

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Speaker 2: going to do this, this, this, this, and yeah. So

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Speaker 2: the guy that would pick up the money was a

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Speaker 2: Boston fire man.

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Speaker 8: It's exactly the same. Those people feel the same way,

1571
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Speaker 8: those like old dealers and stuff.

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Speaker 3: That's a great more. Like you know the bookie, like

1573
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1574
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Speaker 5: It's got a job at draft.

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Speaker 3: His life is over because like it's legal to gamble now,

1576
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Speaker 3: so there's no use for him anymore. They don't anymore.

1577
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Speaker 5: Level position at DraftKings like it's obviously.

1578
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Speaker 3: Like like it's it's a comedy, you know.

1579
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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, just punched this up a little bit.

1580
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Speaker 3: He just wrote it.

1581
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Speaker 2: Interviews.

1582
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jason Bateman's my number one.

1583
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Speaker 2: Whett rights in and he he dares me in the

1584
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Speaker 2: subject line, don't dodge the question. Fred on Tuesday the

1585
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Speaker 2: clip with Andy in the one pound Burger, correct me

1586
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Speaker 2: if I'm wrong. But the other voice was he who

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Speaker 2: shall not be named? Right, that is correct? It was

1588
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 2: like Obi wan Kenobi. Now that's the name I haven't

1589
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 2: heard in a long long time. I thought the people

1590
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Speaker 2: who ask who he is may be interested to know

1591
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 2: that they have now heard his voice.

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Speaker 4: That's correct, that's correctly perceptive.

1593
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Speaker 2: He who shall not be named, and we shall not

1594
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Speaker 2: name him.

1595
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 4: Lots of emails, lots of calls.

1596
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 2: Let's get to the calls. Uh, David, I gotta get

1597
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Speaker 2: my mouse, right, David's Florida? What's up, David? David good?

1598
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Speaker 2: All right?

1599
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Speaker 18: So I might I feel like I'm the only one

1600
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 18: who has sort of like buyers beware feeling with guys

1601
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 18: like Brandon Ayuk and Chris Godwin, I'm kind of concerned

1602
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 18: about the injury. Do you think that Ayuk would be

1603
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 18: if we were to trade for Ayuk, that he would

1604
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 18: be ready for training camp in even week one?

1605
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 5: Not real.

1606
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 2: I don't think you'd be ready for week one now.

1607
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Speaker 18: I feel like it would be. I just feel like

1608
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 18: it'd be a waste of giving up significant asset to

1609
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 18: get a guy who might not be the same after

1610
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 18: his injury. I don't know, Maybe I'm wrong.

1611
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 2: It's a fear.

1612
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that you probably are going to get

1613
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 3: him for less than what you would have gotten him

1614
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 3: last offseason, because that's what you have to hope. So

1615
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 3: you're kind of trading for him for twenty twenty six

1616
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 3: almost in a way to hope that he gets it

1617
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,839
Speaker 3: back for that year, and you got him for pennies

1618
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 3: on the.

1619
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 4: Dollar, especially that you're trading for the contract too. So

1620
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 4: he signed a big money, long term contract. So Evan's right,

1621
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 4: I think that the selling point for the Patriots would be, well,

1622
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 4: he's not worth that anymore right now because he's damaged good,

1623
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,719
Speaker 4: So to offset that, we're going to give you less

1624
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 4: than maybe we would have had to in the past.

1625
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you'd have to hope.

1626
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 3: And he's under contract, so it's a little different, like

1627
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:52,560
Speaker 3: they could trade for him, and they don't need to

1628
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 3: get him to agree to an extension because he already

1629
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 3: signed the extension. So he's kind of trapped at that point. Ye,

1630
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 3: not that that's what you want to do.

1631
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 18: But I think there's any lingering concerns for Godwin for

1632
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:03,520
Speaker 18: his injury, Yeah.

1633
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 3: Te me a little bit, but not as I mean,

1634
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 3: like not as much. Though it's a disicated ankle. I

1635
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 3: don't think that that's gonna be as long term of

1636
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 3: a rehab for him. But yeah, I mean it's two

1637
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 3: serious injuries within a couple of years for him.

1638
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it depends on in the dislocation, how bad it was,

1639
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 2: you know, like was their ligament damage and that type

1640
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 2: of stuff. Thanks David, We'll go down to New York.

1641
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,799
Speaker 2: Scotty's there, Hey, Scotty, Scotty.

1642
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 19: He god I just wanted to know why is it

1643
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 19: being more or less dismissed the idea of the Patriots

1644
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 19: taking Mason Graham at four overall? Is it more so

1645
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 19: like just because of far more and the big money,

1646
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 19: or it's just not really a position of need. But

1647
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 19: I look at it like we we need more foundational pieces.

1648
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,719
Speaker 19: This is a guy who had three years of really

1649
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 19: good production in the Big ten, and I just don't

1650
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:02,759
Speaker 19: understand what we don't well, we don't see his name more.

1651
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:04,799
Speaker 10: With the Patriots.

1652
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 2: I don't dismiss it, Evan does.

1653
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 3: He's not my guy.

1654
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 5: I kind of dismissed it too, And I'm a defense guy.

1655
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 5: But I mean, as you say you need a foundational piece,

1656
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 5: do you think they are you sure at two hundred

1657
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 5: and ninety pounds he's going to be a foundational piece

1658
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 5: or is he going to be, you know, a good,

1659
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 5: really good rotational player. I mean, I think he's obviously talented.

1660
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 5: I just I question if he really is.

1661
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 2: I think I think he's a look at the tape guy.

1662
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 2: Look at what he did, you know against pretty good

1663
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:34,679
Speaker 2: competition ish especially in the biggest game.

1664
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, he played really well in a couple of their

1665
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 3: big games, Ohio State National championship game two years ago.

1666
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:42,600
Speaker 3: He was definitely in the conversation.

1667
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 2: I think that you know, you get him in the NFL,

1668
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 2: maybe he adds a few pounds. You don't want him

1669
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 2: to get too heavy because maybe he loses that that

1670
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:54,639
Speaker 2: quickness but I I think that I I think I'm

1671
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:59,480
Speaker 2: I like him. I wouldn't be you know, uh distraught

1672
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 2: if they picked him at four.

1673
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 3: I don't think he's being dismissed at all. I think

1674
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 3: we talk about Mason Graham plenty.

1675
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 4: I think he's definitely on the table.

1676
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think that, you know, I personally just

1677
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 3: prefer other people. But that's not you know, it's not

1678
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 3: because I think he's terrible. I just you know, I don't.

1679
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 3: I don't really view interior defensive linemen as premium as

1680
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 3: left tackle or as a premium position like edge rusher

1681
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 3: would be. So I just look at it a little

1682
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 3: bit differently in terms of that.

1683
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,640
Speaker 19: But can I read the quick point? Am I still on?

1684
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 2: Sure?

1685
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 16: Ye?

1686
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 19: With the Patriots in playing in cold weather, playing in

1687
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 19: December and January, wouldn't they a bigger a bigger player,

1688
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 19: an interior three down player be a little bit more

1689
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 19: valuable in a cold playoff game in Buffalo or New

1690
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 19: England or Cincinnati or wherever than a white head rusher

1691
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 19: on the outside.

1692
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 2: No, I I know, but Mason Graham isn't that kind

1693
01:17:59,120 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 2: of guy.

1694
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 4: I was going to you would have neither, because he's

1695
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:03,799
Speaker 4: a smaller interior defender.

1696
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 19: You're talking like that, there's well the run production that

1697
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 19: he has on tape and in a running competence.

1698
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I I mean, look, I would love to

1699
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 3: sit here, Scotty and say that that I'm drafting a

1700
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 3: player because we're going to be playing in the AFC

1701
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 3: Championship game and I have to I have to get

1702
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 3: to the ANFC Championship game first, right.

1703
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 4: And I don't think that the weather has anything to

1704
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,719
Speaker 4: do with the game plan, unless it's like we're talking

1705
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 4: snow wind, like when San Diego came in here last year,

1706
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 4: Like how was the game plan when they threw it

1707
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 4: all over you?

1708
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 19: To say, I think the number one needs to be

1709
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 19: to protect mag But that's just that's their number at A,

1710
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,600
Speaker 19: B and C right now. But I was just I

1711
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 19: was just wanted an explanation.

1712
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 3: No thanks, Scott. I don't mean to sound dismissive about

1713
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:53,759
Speaker 3: Mason Graham if I am, because I asked you he's

1714
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 3: on the table. I just it just wouldn't be the

1715
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 3: guy I would pick, that's all like.

1716
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 5: And that's why I'm intrigued by a guy like MIKEL Williams,

1717
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 5: who certainly has a ways to go. But I can

1718
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 5: sell myself on him being that foundational player if he

1719
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 5: if it all works out, if he were developed you

1720
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 5: know the way that I think he could. He's got

1721
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 5: all the size, he's got, you know, the explosives. I mean,

1722
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 5: he is a three down player potentially in the defensive front,

1723
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 5: which I just I don't know if Mason Graham would

1724
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 5: ever be that. I like piece, but I.

1725
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 4: Just have reservations because I don't see the explosive athlete

1726
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 4: that like the Donalds the Joneses of the world that

1727
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 4: play that spot are right, But I like it that

1728
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:35,640
Speaker 4: the player. I think he's a really good player, and

1729
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 4: I think he's very much in play for that Picky.

1730
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 4: I don't think people have eliminated him from the number

1731
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 4: four pick.

1732
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 5: And he's like a prime example of one of the

1733
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 5: guys like when we try to project who they're going

1734
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 5: to take and what the big board stuff is, it's

1735
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 5: like you really have a to think about it, Like,

1736
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 5: I know it's not my cup of tea, but is

1737
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 5: it potentially their cup of tea?

1738
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 4: And you guys have watched him, Fred, I think you've

1739
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 4: watched him, probably even more than me. I know that

1740
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 4: there's like a lot of penetration, But to me, it's

1741
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 4: he's more of like a technician, like he's I've heard

1742
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 4: a lot about the wrestling stuff, like the leverage and that,

1743
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 4: and that's great, But what happens when he gets against

1744
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 4: all guys that have that ability to go against them,

1745
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 4: like the Aaron Donalds and Jones is of the world.

1746
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 4: They can overpower you, they can run by you, and

1747
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 4: that's what makes them. Warren said, that's what makes them

1748
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 4: different on the inside, you know. And I'm not like,

1749
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that Mason Graham Isn't that that's not

1750
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 4: fair because that's not fair to say, well, he's not

1751
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 4: as good as the very best players who've ever played

1752
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 4: that position, right, But I'm just like, that's what you

1753
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 4: need to be as the fourth overall pick.

1754
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 2: Again, there's nobody worth that except but.

1755
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 4: I think Tyler Warren might be that kind of a

1756
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 4: tight end. So that was the conversation I was gonna

1757
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 4: I don't think he's worth the fourth overall pick either,

1758
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 4: but I think that he is a generational kind of

1759
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 4: tight end.

1760
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 3: Got to make a pick when I'm draft. If you're

1761
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 3: drafting fourth overall, you would just like the traits to

1762
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 3: be there to say that, to project a ceiling of

1763
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 3: this player as like an all pro type of player,

1764
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 3: I think Mason Graham has a very very good floor.

1765
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 3: Like I don't think Mason Graham is going to totally

1766
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 3: flame out of the NFL. I just don't know if

1767
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 3: I see him being a top five player at his position.

1768
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 2: We're going to have to lower our expectation this year.

1769
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 3: Possibly, yeah, we possibly have to.

1770
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 2: Unless we have Abdul Carter or if you get Travis Hunter.

1771
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 2: I think he's he could be that kind of guy.

1772
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Paul's right, Like the things that you

1773
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 3: hear about Mason Graham that he's good at leverage, hand technique, motor, like,

1774
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 3: that's all great. It just I don't know if that's

1775
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 3: great for fourth overall. Like if you're taking that guy,

1776
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 3: you know, in the top fifteen of a draft, like

1777
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,640
Speaker 3: you're saying, Okay, I'm gonna get this. This is a

1778
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 3: football player. You turn on the tape and you love

1779
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 3: this guy when you watch him on film, and I

1780
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 3: think he is that.

1781
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 2: Let's see.

1782
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 4: I want people to think that where you and I

1783
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 4: are like, oh, this guy can't play. There's no business

1784
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:02,719
Speaker 4: being drafted No, he's really.

1785
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 2: Good Rodney's in Foxborough. I've been listening since twenty eleven.

1786
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 2: Love all the new and past members of Patriots Unfiltered.

1787
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 2: But if there's one absence I feel most, it's Fred.

1788
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 2: Everything he brings his gold, the sneaky humor, the sniffs,

1789
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 2: the absurd name pronunciations. It's always almost agreed with his life,

1790
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 2: takes what belongs in an Italian sub the right restaurants

1791
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 2: of the Cape. Until now, Oh Fred, the backwards hat

1792
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 2: take shook me. I'm thirty six and when I wear

1793
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 2: a hat it's almost always backwards. I respect your opinions

1794
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 2: so much that I actually started wondering, is it time

1795
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 2: to retire it?

1796
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 11: Yes?

1797
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:41,719
Speaker 2: It is that. Then Alex came through with the save.

1798
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 2: If I'm putting a hat on and caring about what

1799
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 2: anyone thinks, it's for someone like Alex, not Fred. Yes,

1800
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 2: So thank you Alex for making me feel like I'm

1801
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 2: not too old to keep rocking it. If anything, I'm

1802
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 2: wearing it with even more pride.

1803
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 8: Now you're welcome, and it's like I put in the newsletter,

1804
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 8: you can't ask a fish right there.

1805
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 7: It's a good one.

1806
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 4: That's a great email.

1807
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 2: Why can you ask a crook how to catch a crook?

1808
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 4: I think in general they do the FBI.

1809
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 7: That's a good point. I never really fai if a.

1810
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 2: Fish could talk, like, how would I catch you? If

1811
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 2: I want to cyber crime?

1812
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 4: You know what they do? They go out and find

1813
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 4: the best hacker.

1814
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 2: Out there and the.

1815
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, but listen, I I need you to listen.

1816
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 2: I still have my opinion. But I listened. I did

1817
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 2: a poll and talking, I was open minded, and a

1818
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,879
Speaker 2: lot of the women in our office said they actually,

1819
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 2: I think it's cool when guys wear their hair.

1820
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 7: It was actually unanimous.

1821
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 4: But the vast majority of that pole they're all young.

1822
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 2: They're all young.

1823
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 7: Thirty six is young.

1824
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 5: Thirty Oh no, I think this is a psychological thing.

1825
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 7: Men at thirty and get better looking.

1826
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 5: I know, I've heard that.

1827
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,640
Speaker 2: I can tell you that happened for me, still waiting.

1828
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 4: Well around the time I started to get a little

1829
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 4: thin in the back and a little big in the front.

1830
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 5: I read what she wrote in the in the newsletter,

1831
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:12,640
Speaker 5: and it made me think of there's like this guy

1832
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 5: who I think wrote this whole book called the Like.

1833
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's like the pick up artist.

1834
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 5: I know that's a movie, but it's a book about

1835
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 5: like the science of trying to pick up women. And

1836
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 5: it's part of like you have to peacock, you have

1837
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 5: to have like wear something kind of flashy that stands out.

1838
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 5: And I was thinking with the hat, it's kind of

1839
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 5: that like instant signal of like I can just wear this.

1840
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 5: I don't really need it to shade the sun out

1841
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 5: of my ou just cool.

1842
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 8: I can you know, wear something like there's an actual

1843
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 8: term called halt fishing. Guys like say they're on like

1844
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 8: a dating profile and all their pictures if he has

1845
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 8: a hat on, it's like, okay, these are great, but

1846
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 8: like there's that worry what's under.

1847
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 2: The head hair or what's not under my hair?

1848
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 7: And either way it's fine.

1849
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:56,640
Speaker 8: But the hat just it adds that little bit of

1850
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 8: mystery and most guys look goods.

1851
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 4: It's a I said up the day that it came

1852
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,719
Speaker 4: up that I've heard a million people agree one thousand

1853
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 4: percent with Alex.

1854
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 2: The backward hat thing is a thing. I think you

1855
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 2: should start wearing a straw hat. You know, those straw hats.

1856
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 2: You should just we should just go like a straw man.

1857
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 5: Did you have a preference though, if it's a fitted

1858
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 5: hat with no little pikaboo at their forehead, or do

1859
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 5: you want one with the with the clip that you

1860
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 5: know you get a little forehead.

1861
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 8: I don't like a fitted hat backwards, yeah, okay, because

1862
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 8: I don't know why. Or a baseball hat like a

1863
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 8: standard based like Dad baseball hat, or snap back backwards.

1864
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 7: You need a snack fitted hat. You have to wear

1865
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:39,480
Speaker 7: front facings.

1866
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 5: We're getting to the Bible.

1867
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 2: I just think once you get out of college, give

1868
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 2: it up. Du give it up. Duck takes it duck tape.

1869
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 2: Sammy writes in from Pleasanton, California. First of all, Deuce,

1870
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 2: don't ever wear an l A hat again? Appalling? Are

1871
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 2: we sure you skated at holy Cross?

1872
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 5: I don't know when. I mean, I have one l

1873
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 5: A had I lived there for eighteen years. I thought

1874
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 5: I could. I can at least run off.

1875
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 4: You know what Mike used to be in the industry.

1876
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 5: He's was I supporting the fire department or something.

1877
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 7: I don't know, evan Dodgers hat or something?

1878
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 5: I do. I mean, I have an l A A

1879
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 5: Dodgers hat, but I don't evan.

1880
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 2: No more Lumberjack flannels during your analysis. Second, do you

1881
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:27,719
Speaker 2: work for the Patriots or as Varna.

1882
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:31,839
Speaker 3: I don't know what farna.

1883
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 2: It's like a tool they make laws and tractors and stuff.

1884
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 3: That's out that that's why this John John, I mean

1885
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 3: like you could have said like toro John Deere, like

1886
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 3: you go with like literally like the one you know

1887
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:47,640
Speaker 3: what is that?

1888
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 5: I pause without fred pronounce it because I've always looked

1889
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 5: at that word.

1890
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 3: That's like saying, oh, what are you a car?

1891
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 2: Are you like?

1892
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 4: But that also tracks like a lot of guys now,

1893
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 4: especially in like that s.

1894
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 3: Tools man man man to German or something.

1895
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 2: I think it's Swedish sus you'd like to have heard of?

1896
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 4: It makes sense maybe using the word sus.

1897
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 2: Maybe if I can give you guys a credit at

1898
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 2: the pro shop for some fresh drip. No, we don't

1899
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 2: need second football. Please help me understand why the general

1900
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 2: consensus of trading Milton in a couple of draft picks

1901
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 2: for Miles Garrett is so far fetched? What is Garrett

1902
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 2: really worth from an asset standpoint?

1903
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 4: By a couple of draft picks you mean four and

1904
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 4: next year's one because now I'm in, But because they're

1905
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,720
Speaker 4: not given. I mean, we talked about DK metcalf and

1906
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 4: now they said a first and third and whatever. Cleveland's

1907
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 4: not just going to give him away.

1908
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 2: He says. Garrett is turning thirty. He wants out of Cleveland.

1909
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 2: The Browns need a quarterback prospect, and Milton is a

1910
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 2: better option than any quarterback in the twenty five draft.

1911
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 2: Always with Drake and trentch at QB one, how much

1912
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 2: playing time is Milton never going to see? The Patriots

1913
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 2: not only need to upgrade their pass rush, they're a

1914
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 2: desperate need of a high profile player to help bring

1915
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:13,480
Speaker 2: free agents to the team.

1916
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 3: The notion that Joe Milton is the best quarterback in

1917
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five draft is hilarious. Sorry, I don't

1918
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 3: mean to be disrespectful, but it's just.

1919
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go down a dark road here that might

1920
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 4: not be happy. But like the whole idea of, you know,

1921
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 4: with Drake entrenched as your quarterback, when is Joe Milton

1922
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 4: ever going to play? How many times did Drake start

1923
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 4: and finished last year? He had knocked out of two

1924
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 4: different games. Now I'm not counting the last one.

1925
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 3: I'm not counting the last one.

1926
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:50,440
Speaker 4: Right, This is not a shot at Drake May Okay, it's.

1927
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 3: Like, why why are we good player?

1928
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:56,759
Speaker 4: My point is, why are we just assuming our starting

1929
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 4: quarterback is going to play seventeen games when he started

1930
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 4: ten last year and didn't make it, you know, front

1931
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 4: start to.

1932
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 5: Finish in two of them, and how many you guys,

1933
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 5: And I'm not.

1934
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 4: Counting the last game, by the way, when he came

1935
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 4: out of coach's decision.

1936
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 5: I don't. I'm not even sure Joe Milton's the Patriots

1937
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 5: backup quarterback. That's where I'm kind of questioning left that.

1938
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 4: I left back to Evan good enough with that, I'm like,

1939
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 4: why are we just assuming that it's gonna be seventeen

1940
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 4: starts for Drake May?

1941
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 2: You're going to need somebody at some point, probably, Mike

1942
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,719
Speaker 2: writes in the most eric thing ever said by Evan,

1943
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 2: I don't know what has fauna is?

1944
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 3: Again, Like you could have picked a very well known

1945
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 3: like you know, John Deere or Toro or like, and

1946
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 3: I would have been like, Okay, I get the joke,

1947
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 3: but like you had to pick the random Swedish you know.

1948
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 2: I think John Deere would have been better for this audience. Yeah, yeah,

1949
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 2: Gerald and Grimsby following up on Alex's hat fishing if

1950
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 2: a woman's online profile she only has she only has

1951
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 2: sunglasses on in every picture run away.

1952
01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 7: I agree with that. O.

1953
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's like, is that what it is for women?

1954
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 8: The hat fish?

1955
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 9: Like?

1956
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 8: You just see a woman with big sunglasses on? Does

1957
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 8: that make her more or less attractive?

1958
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,640
Speaker 4: So the I don't know about the size of them,

1959
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 4: but I will say that there's an attractive quality of

1960
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 4: a woman.

1961
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 2: In miss well the ravens.

1962
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:19,679
Speaker 3: But now they got the big ones and they cover

1963
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 3: like three quarters of her face.

1964
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:22,720
Speaker 7: Well not any more. Little ones are back now.

1965
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:25,360
Speaker 3: I have other things like that, but I don't think

1966
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:25,680
Speaker 3: it's good.

1967
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 8: Cleen made like a thin sunglass that everyone's duping and copying.

1968
01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 5: I got a question, what about what about visors and

1969
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 5: bucket hats? Where where enhancing hotness?

1970
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 1: Uh?

1971
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 5: Not enhancing ugliness?

1972
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 2: Like because are you worried?

1973
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:43,680
Speaker 4: No, I'm just asking are you expecting to be back

1974
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 4: on the.

1975
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 8: It's a professional golfer. I don't see a single reason

1976
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 8: ever for you to.

1977
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 7: Wear a visor, Andy.

1978
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 2: I don't see a.

1979
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:54,839
Speaker 8: Reason for anyone, honestly, even if you are a golfer

1980
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 8: to wear a visor bucket hat. It's kind of juvenile.

1981
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 8: That's the one I would say leaven call it, but.

1982
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 3: What like if you're a coach though, like Josh Rock's

1983
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:06,440
Speaker 3: advisor and he needs.

1984
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 7: Should probably look better in a baseball hat.

1985
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:09,600
Speaker 4: I don't get the advisor to do your thing. But

1986
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:11,719
Speaker 4: Andy and loves.

1987
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 2: Him something you love advisors?

1988
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:13,600
Speaker 3: What is it?

1989
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 4: I don't think that he can find enough hats that

1990
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 4: fit is a normous squash. I hear that, and I'll

1991
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:24,560
Speaker 4: tell you even on the visors, every last is stressed

1992
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 4: to the max.

1993
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 8: Advisors And this isn't even a shot at Andy, even

1994
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 8: if it like applies, but it just gives like I

1995
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 8: did roids in the nineties, like I don't know why,

1996
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:38,680
Speaker 8: like your name is made or something that's like I

1997
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 8: don't really know Andy that well, so I don't know

1998
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 8: enough about him to seem like, well are you guys?

1999
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 8: That's just my take, and it happens, it's be.

2000
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 4: An awful quiet it'll be grind himself to sleep tonight

2001
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:53,960
Speaker 4: on this huge villa.

2002
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 5: There was there wasn't enough weight in the low in

2003
01:31:57,400 --> 01:31:59,560
Speaker 5: our gym here at Jillette Stadium for Andy, right, like

2004
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 5: really he needs to throw, particularly with the dumbbells.

2005
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 2: Well, going back to that clip that had Andy and

2006
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:08,640
Speaker 2: he shall who shall not be named, talking about the

2007
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 2: one pound burger Hans and Franz. The lead is is buried.

2008
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 2: The two of them were in the gym before, like

2009
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 2: those two meatheads in the gym. Oh he should not

2010
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 2: be named. He used to do the leg press. Every

2011
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:24,600
Speaker 2: forty five plate he could find. He's put on this,

2012
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 2: plus like the five gallon buckets filled with cement on

2013
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 2: shanes hanging like anything he could find people, and he

2014
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 2: would be lifting like fifteen hundred pounds on this thing,

2015
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:37,599
Speaker 2: you know. And of course Andy would like pretend he's

2016
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 2: not paying attention, but he's looking out of the side

2017
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 2: of his eye, like I wish that was me, the

2018
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 2: two Hans in front, and.

2019
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:46,679
Speaker 5: He gives me the vibes of a big dumbbell flies

2020
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:49,639
Speaker 5: guy like got the dumbbells on the incline bench and he's.

2021
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 2: Got because everybody else equipment. But he'd be like, you know,

2022
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 2: I could look, I can with the whole guy, I

2023
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:01,639
Speaker 2: could bet more than you like. Of course, you, Candy,

2024
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 2: your arms are half as long. You don't have to

2025
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 2: go up as high. That's t J.

2026
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 5: Now. He was all speaking of, which how is will

2027
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 5: Campbell's to twenty five? How many times you put that up.

2028
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 4: I should have been about four hundred because he doesn't

2029
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 4: have to go very well, was Andy's advantage.

2030
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 3: Armand Membu put up thirty one with thirty three and

2031
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 3: a half inch arms. I mean that is that's tough

2032
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 3: to do. That's a beast right there.

2033
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 2: Anyway, I used to don making fun of Andy.

2034
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 4: So I found out that my nephew who played, you know,

2035
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 4: he played some college football and he was a tackle

2036
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:35,639
Speaker 4: and he had thirty four and a half in round.

2037
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 4: So I told my brother, yes, I so just just

2038
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:40,479
Speaker 4: let him know. He's now considered an underachiever in I

2039
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 4: mighty should be in the lag.

2040
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:46,599
Speaker 3: Everybody's short arm tackles these days. Like all these guys

2041
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:49,519
Speaker 3: came in there around thirty three inches and four.

2042
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 2: There was the short arm infant epidemic and that affected

2043
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 2: a lot of people. Apparently be right because from the.

2044
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:03,120
Speaker 3: Kelvin epidemic, armand Membu, Josh Simmons, will Campbell like Ozzy

2045
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:05,639
Speaker 3: Trapilo has thirty three and charms at six eight, which

2046
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 3: is just doesn't like that kind of defies logic.

2047
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:12,120
Speaker 2: How does he get his hands in his pockets?

2048
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 5: Just have him raised?

2049
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:14,639
Speaker 2: I love you, Fred.

2050
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 4: Those are the lines right there.

2051
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 2: That's why they love you. But that's really sad.

2052
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 3: I have nothing.

2053
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 4: There's nothing better than one Evans being.

2054
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 2: S you have nothing, but maybe you have something with

2055
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 2: this one Shane and Springfield. Did I hear Evan Wright

2056
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 2: that he thinks Austin Hooper might not come back because

2057
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:36,800
Speaker 2: he's an a VP guy. Can the genius of PU

2058
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 2: please tell me the last two head coaches Hooper signed

2059
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:44,360
Speaker 2: with prior to New England. I don't know he was Tennessee,

2060
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 2: wasn't a head coach.

2061
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 3: He was with Tennessee in Tennessee with Rabel. Yeah, but

2062
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 3: that's also like a West Coast offense with Arthur Smith, and.

2063
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:53,959
Speaker 4: I would go I would look more at the offensive

2064
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 4: coordinators than I would the head coach.

2065
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2066
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 3: I just think that he was specifically brought in.

2067
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 5: He said it. I mean I came here.

2068
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 4: For out and that's what I thought you were judging

2069
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 4: that by it. And I'm not dismissing that they'll re

2070
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 4: sign him. I think it did work well last year

2071
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 4: with Hunter Henry and I think.

2072
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 7: It clearly position room. It seems like we didn't have

2073
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 7: an issue.

2074
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 3: With probably the best a VET that's.

2075
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:17,679
Speaker 8: Played with really great quarterbacks. He was a great compliment

2076
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 8: to Hunter and he likes it here importantly and it

2077
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:22,799
Speaker 8: works with a man of being here, So like.

2078
01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 2: Have you have you talked to him about that?

2079
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 7: Yes, very much.

2080
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 4: There's another kid.

2081
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:29,520
Speaker 7: He's like a history.

2082
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 8: Boss the box everything it has to offer in terms

2083
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:33,680
Speaker 8: of like lifestyle.

2084
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:36,599
Speaker 4: So Austin Hooper greater than just came back.

2085
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:37,840
Speaker 2: He likes it here.

2086
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,879
Speaker 3: I like Austin Hooper too, and the vet part is important.

2087
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 3: I thought both him and Hunter Henry were really big

2088
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:45,839
Speaker 3: with Drake May, like they kind of took him under.

2089
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,600
Speaker 7: Their waves good quarterbacks.

2090
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 3: And Hunter Henry especially kind of turned into Drake May's

2091
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:52,720
Speaker 3: like big brother on the team.

2092
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 4: And I think so to the point where they actually

2093
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 4: did a press conference together. Really uncomfortable, but they did it.

2094
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 3: I thought, great.

2095
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 2: It was weird. Our listener on Listener Crime email of

2096
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 2: the Week, Oh comes from Josh and Atlanta. Here for it,

2097
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:12,760
Speaker 2: he says, Oh boy. Another episode where Christian from La

2098
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 2: brings up tax brackets in the Palisades. Here's an idea, Christian,

2099
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 2: write down what you want to say before calling in.

2100
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 2: I know writing can be scary, but I have faith

2101
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 2: in you. Maybe do a few practice runs first. Wow. Wow,

2102
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:28,799
Speaker 2: Wow's that's harsh. That's harsh.

2103
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:31,719
Speaker 8: I might start a new sub section of the newsletter

2104
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:33,599
Speaker 8: for just the listeners to attack each other.

2105
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 4: Oh geez, it used to be a lot more of it.

2106
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:37,559
Speaker 7: Really.

2107
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't, Jeremiah writes in you guys are going

2108
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 2: to have to help me with this one. I think

2109
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:46,040
Speaker 2: Shamer Stewart and Michel Williams are the only ones I

2110
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 2: would really consider at four if we stick and pick,

2111
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 2: I would rather take a shot on upside and have

2112
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 2: faith in the coaching staff to get the most out

2113
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 2: of their athleticism.

2114
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Shamar Stewart blew up the combine, but fact he

2115
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:01,960
Speaker 3: had foreign and a half career sacks at Texas A

2116
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:03,880
Speaker 3: and M over three seasons. He had one and a

2117
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:06,800
Speaker 3: half sacks last year at Texas A and M. So

2118
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 3: you're doing a lot of projecting that you are going

2119
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 3: to get a much more productive player if you're going

2120
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:14,680
Speaker 3: to take him at four overall. But he was the

2121
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:18,000
Speaker 3: best tester at the entire combine, like one to one

2122
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:19,520
Speaker 3: at the entire combine.

2123
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 5: But I love the kid too, Like, I just liked

2124
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 5: his presence at the podium, you know, just seemed like

2125
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:25,559
Speaker 5: you know, the kind of leader that you'd want to pick.

2126
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 5: But that's why I just lean a bit little bit

2127
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 5: towards Williams of just he's still more productive, productive, but

2128
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:32,639
Speaker 5: it's also a ceiling that you can't quite see yet.

2129
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 2: I feel like, so where was.

2130
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 4: Where was he sort of projected top fifteen ish like he.

2131
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 2: Was so he didn't like with this movement.

2132
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 4: I was because that's the first thing I thought of

2133
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 4: was maybe he's the answer to your question from tuesday.

2134
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 5: I think going in. Evan actually said it before the combine,

2135
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:51,679
Speaker 5: he's going to be a guy who blows Yeah.

2136
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 2: Well he was.

2137
01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 4: He was already considered first round pick.

2138
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was already considered a top half of the

2139
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 3: first round guy because he's he's disruptive. He just isn't

2140
01:37:59,080 --> 01:37:59,679
Speaker 3: a sack guy.

2141
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 2: So you think that that kind of performance helps him.

2142
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially in a draft like this where there's not

2143
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 3: a lot of consensus.

2144
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 2: At the top.

2145
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:09,680
Speaker 3: Like if he's abdul Carter is obviously going to be

2146
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:11,719
Speaker 3: the first edge guy taken. But if he's the second

2147
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:13,799
Speaker 3: edge guy taken, I don't think it would blow anybody

2148
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:14,559
Speaker 3: away at this point.

2149
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:16,639
Speaker 5: Those two guys to look at him, two of my favorites.

2150
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 5: I mean, he just stoot's fun to watch. He just

2151
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 5: plays with his hair on fire. I mean he's unrefined,

2152
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 5: you know, and it's a little bit like you know,

2153
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 5: bull in a China shop, like he just going crazy.

2154
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 5: And I'm sure you got to get him to play

2155
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:29,200
Speaker 5: a little bit more disciplint. But he's got every tool

2156
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 5: in the box. And you know, seems like a good

2157
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 5: guy too. So that's a lot like.

2158
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:33,800
Speaker 4: You know how I always tell you this is the

2159
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 4: random guys that stick out.

2160
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:36,120
Speaker 2: I think he might be one of the.

2161
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 3: He's two hundred and sixty seven pounds and he're in

2162
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 3: a four or five in the forty yard dash of.

2163
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 2: Two hundred and sixty seven pounds moving.

2164
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 3: And he he he jumped over forty inches and I

2165
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 3: was gonna say feet forty inches in the vertical as well.

2166
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 3: I think he was like forty one or forty and

2167
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 3: a half in the vertical.

2168
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:56,519
Speaker 2: And size big, just big, big, a bunch of bottles big.

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01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:59,639
Speaker 3: He's like an illegitimate superhero, like someone like gave him,

2170
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:04,080
Speaker 3: like the apt in America drifted him out. He wasn't

2171
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:06,559
Speaker 3: super agile, so he is a little bit more of

2172
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:07,680
Speaker 3: a stiffer.

2173
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 4: I don't know what's making me laugh more here Fred

2174
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 4: asking these questions or the fact that Evan truly knows

2175
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:14,519
Speaker 4: the answer to that's.

2176
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 2: That's great, that's Evan, That's superpower. Chris with a T

2177
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:23,160
Speaker 2: I A n great the three.

2178
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:25,719
Speaker 4: Cone of some Brando in the middle of the first.

2179
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 2: Round Christian Wrights in great week of coverage last week.

2180
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 2: Thank you Duce and Evan for their work at the combine.

2181
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 2: I'm old enough to remember when Paul and Andy were

2182
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 2: the ones doing that and Nanny would come back with

2183
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 2: a story of some stomach bathroom issue that required him

2184
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:40,879
Speaker 2: to dispoke. None of that, None of that happened, absolutely

2185
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:41,320
Speaker 2: none of it.

2186
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 4: Playing the role of Andy Harden this week's episode would

2187
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 4: be Mike too, Sue, who had prime rood.

2188
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:52,760
Speaker 2: I know you touched upon this last week, but was

2189
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 2: there any other person on the planet happier than Barth?

2190
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:58,719
Speaker 2: Did he sleep at all? Was he literally on every

2191
01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:02,639
Speaker 2: show and YouTube channel? It was exhausting. I'm tired. Oh done, Barth.

2192
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 5: No, he did a great job. I mean, I defer

2193
01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 5: to Evan because they're like soulmates, but I don't know

2194
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 5: if he was happy or not, Like he was just

2195
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:11,559
Speaker 5: like was just so happy, overwhelmed, and I gotta do

2196
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:12,720
Speaker 5: this and where are.

2197
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 2: You guys going?

2198
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:14,680
Speaker 5: You're going over there now, okay, can I come? Like

2199
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:16,680
Speaker 5: you know, it's just everything was so frenetic, and I

2200
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 5: gotta go on the radio ten thirty. Then I'm back

2201
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 5: on the radio seven thirty. They're like, Barth, calm down, bro.

2202
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 5: Like Evin, I think you said at one point like

2203
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 5: you're at about a ten.

2204
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 2: H you did about a five.

2205
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:26,519
Speaker 5: It's like day one's telling Bart to just calm down.

2206
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah he uh, all true, all all accurate depictions. Uh.

2207
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 3: But he got to try his first saying Elmo's Cocktail

2208
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:42,559
Speaker 3: Sauce experience on on Thursday night. And he's been making

2209
01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 3: fun of me this whole time for last year when

2210
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 3: we ate a trimp on the air and I kind

2211
01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 3: of like half, you know, half asked it a little

2212
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:52,640
Speaker 3: bit and he just pops the whole thing in his

2213
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:55,479
Speaker 3: mouth and I just see like all of a sudden,

2214
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:57,920
Speaker 3: and he's like trying to be like tough about it,

2215
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 3: and he's like it's fine, it's fine.

2216
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:01,120
Speaker 2: It's just like.

2217
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 5: Every signus in your head, like you just like all

2218
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 5: awesome everything it does feel good.

2219
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2220
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, he was in his element. There's no doubt

2221
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:12,360
Speaker 3: about that.

2222
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 2: Rich says. Rabel drafted Hooper and Josh mcdam's was with

2223
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:21,559
Speaker 2: him with the Raiders. So there you go. And Thomas

2224
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:25,599
Speaker 2: wants to for Matt to play the Okay, here we

2225
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 2: go song more often. He loves that you got that U,

2226
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:35,360
Speaker 2: that's my song? Okay, save it for next show. I

2227
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 2: caught him on the marine dot com website.

2228
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:39,719
Speaker 5: What is that website?

2229
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 2: Anyway?

2230
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 3: You can't spell Austin Hooper was drafted by the Falcons.

2231
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:44,920
Speaker 2: I thought.

2232
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 3: He played in Tennessee with Rable though he did.

2233
01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:50,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wouldn't rule it out. I like the player.

2234
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 5: I mean, there's enough connections that I just think it's

2235
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 5: a question of do you want to tap this class

2236
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 5: this year? Go a little bit young. You've extended Hunter Henry,

2237
01:41:58,080 --> 01:41:59,680
Speaker 5: but it seems like every year they like to have

2238
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:01,520
Speaker 5: a guys, you know, two guys.

2239
01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 2: Tom and Vernon New Jersey also says, I love the

2240
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:07,040
Speaker 2: idea of trading for DK. Any scenario where we can

2241
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:10,559
Speaker 2: trade for him and keep the fourth overall pick, not

2242
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 2: according to Seattle, but we'll see.

2243
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:15,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you could give them a future.

2244
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 2: And he added value for adding in born. I think

2245
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 2: Born is not the talent or mentor we hoped he

2246
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 2: would be for the team and would only hurt the

2247
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 2: team if he remains. And I think the Patriots need

2248
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:29,240
Speaker 2: a real veteran mentor professional presence in the wide receiver room.

2249
01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 2: Am I crazy?

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01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:35,040
Speaker 3: No, that's not necessarily DK, But I think that you know,

2251
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 3: the trade that they supposedly agreed to reportedly agreed to

2252
01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:42,360
Speaker 3: last year for Brandon Nayuk was a second of fourth

2253
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 3: and Kendrick Bourne for Brandon Nayuk, So I wouldn't be

2254
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:50,760
Speaker 3: surprised if a DK package looked somewhat similar. And the

2255
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 3: Seahawks just cut Tyler Lockett and now they're trading DK Metcalfs,

2256
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:56,680
Speaker 3: so they're gonna need some receivers. So maybe you can

2257
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 3: throw in one of ours.

2258
01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:01,200
Speaker 2: Patty's and agawam on the line. What's up, Patty?

2259
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 20: Hey, good afternoon. Everyone has everyone doing good good? I

2260
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:09,680
Speaker 20: apologize if you guys covered this today, wasn't able to

2261
01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 20: listen earlier, but some of the buzz coming out of

2262
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:15,559
Speaker 20: the combine was about Jamie and Sherwood and how they're

2263
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 20: kind of looking for that style of player at linebacker.

2264
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:22,040
Speaker 20: Do you think they're given any consideration of moving Marte

2265
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:24,920
Speaker 20: Motpu to a linebacker or do you think like he

2266
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 20: might be one of the guys that Brabel just says,

2267
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 20: you're gotten and I'll take it off there.

2268
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:31,600
Speaker 2: Guz Okay, thanks Patty.

2269
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:33,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the one name of all the reports

2270
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 5: that that I wasn't really on my radar. I kind

2271
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:39,800
Speaker 5: of look at him a little bit like christianelle Is

2272
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 5: that they just kind of resigned. I mean, I think

2273
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 5: he's better than Christianelli's probably, but I'm not really getting

2274
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:47,920
Speaker 5: excited about that or thinking that that's like a big

2275
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:52,000
Speaker 5: piece of their Strategywood green Law, green Law, That's that's

2276
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:54,720
Speaker 5: my San Francisco. Yeah, I'd love to get him. I

2277
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:55,719
Speaker 5: think he'd be great next.

2278
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:59,640
Speaker 4: To Jamie Sherwood. Seems like that guy you know that

2279
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 4: they have had like ten of in O one that

2280
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:03,599
Speaker 4: we keep talking about those guys that you don't really

2281
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:06,160
Speaker 4: know that just their NFL players. They're going to come

2282
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 4: in and they're gonna, you know, the group of them

2283
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:12,720
Speaker 4: is going to upgrade your overall level, but individually, none

2284
01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:16,080
Speaker 4: of them is gonna necessarily tip the scales. He sounds

2285
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 4: like one of those guys. Everybody had him in there.

2286
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:23,679
Speaker 4: You know tidbits on the combine things we're hearing. Everybody

2287
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:24,200
Speaker 4: had that name.

2288
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:26,160
Speaker 5: That's the right temperament, it feels like for what they're

2289
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:29,000
Speaker 5: seemingly looking for. So I think it's a position they

2290
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:30,840
Speaker 5: have to address. They got to sprinkle some free agents

2291
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 5: into this defense and really start to rebuild it. I mean,

2292
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 5: to be honest, that's where they're headed.

2293
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:37,520
Speaker 2: Mark's in Connecticut.

2294
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 21: Hey, Mark, Hey, everybody. I kind of had a dream scenario,

2295
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:44,680
Speaker 21: but I think it's very possible to do because of

2296
01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 21: the amount of draft capital and money that we.

2297
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 6: Have to spend.

2298
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 21: What I would do is I would actually take both

2299
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 21: DK Metcalf and Brandon I you, I would trade for

2300
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 21: both of these guys because again you have the draft

2301
01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:58,960
Speaker 21: capital to do it and the money. And then I

2302
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:02,680
Speaker 21: would sign Ronnie's Stanley if you can, or Cam Robinson

2303
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 21: that addresses your left tackle is the kid from BC

2304
01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 21: that's a really good right tackle that you can draft

2305
01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:12,280
Speaker 21: in the draft. And then at the number four pick,

2306
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:15,640
Speaker 21: you can either pick Tyler Warren or Ashaan Genty. And

2307
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 21: I really think that that just boasted your whole team.

2308
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 21: But I know it's a kind of dream scenario, but

2309
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 21: I really think it's possible.

2310
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:26,720
Speaker 4: Okay, So I agree it's that you could. You could

2311
01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:28,600
Speaker 4: definitely do all that. But you said they have the

2312
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:31,080
Speaker 4: draft capital to make those two trades. So I just

2313
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:35,240
Speaker 4: want to hear some proposals. How do you get DK

2314
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:38,120
Speaker 4: Metcalf and Brandon Ayuk with the draft capital that you're

2315
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:38,719
Speaker 4: talking about.

2316
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:43,000
Speaker 21: You'd have to do this year and next year, but

2317
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:45,599
Speaker 21: you'll have two and three for this year, and then

2318
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:47,840
Speaker 21: you should have another two and three for next year,

2319
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:50,799
Speaker 21: so you can do for the players to one, we're.

2320
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:53,400
Speaker 4: Not trading first round picks and we're getting two elite

2321
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 4: wide receivers. What's that We're not trading any of the

2322
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 4: first round picks, but we're going to get two elite

2323
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:00,759
Speaker 4: wide receivers.

2324
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:04,240
Speaker 21: Yeah, because you can do it with a two and

2325
01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:04,879
Speaker 21: a three?

2326
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 2: Who says.

2327
01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:12,040
Speaker 4: Mark Connecticut says, well, Seattle doesn't know, and I'm gonna

2328
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:13,400
Speaker 4: get San Francisco doesn't either.

2329
01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:14,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2330
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 4: I don't know what San Francisco is asking, but yeah.

2331
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:19,599
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm not interested in a Yuk right now,

2332
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:22,280
Speaker 2: he's like he's not gonna be ready.

2333
01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:22,840
Speaker 21: For track care.

2334
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 4: I don't dismiss the proposals. I mean, those are those

2335
01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 4: are big home run swings. We're gonna try to get

2336
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:31,560
Speaker 4: two really good receivers and a in a really.

2337
01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:32,120
Speaker 2: Good left tackle.

2338
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 4: I don't dismiss it, but it's going to cost you,

2339
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 4: and I think it's gonna cost more.

2340
01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:38,840
Speaker 2: Than people basically giving up the top half of your draft. Yeah.

2341
01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:40,639
Speaker 4: I think you're going to have to give up more

2342
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 4: than you think. That's all I mean. I'm not dismissing it.

2343
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 4: I think those are the outside the box thinking that

2344
01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:47,720
Speaker 4: I think they need to be contemplating.

2345
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:50,640
Speaker 2: Thanks Mark, did you guys hear like? I don't know

2346
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:53,960
Speaker 2: who had the report, but get ready for a blockbuster

2347
01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:55,760
Speaker 2: trade with the paint Oran.

2348
01:46:56,880 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 4: He said that Starbucks? Can I get We had fifteen minutes?

2349
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 2: Can I give you?

2350
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:03,640
Speaker 4: Can I give you another one? So I had the

2351
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 4: whole wide receiver thing that ever got mad at me

2352
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 4: about with the you know, not a fit in the offense.

2353
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:13,560
Speaker 4: Because so here's another one. Okay. The Patriots are the

2354
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 4: front runner for free agent X. It doesn't matter who

2355
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:21,200
Speaker 4: it is. Can I just ask how that can be

2356
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:25,640
Speaker 4: unless someone says I want to sign with the Patriots, right,

2357
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:30,720
Speaker 4: So let's just use Ronnie Stanley as an example. Patriots

2358
01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:33,080
Speaker 4: are a front runner for Ronnie Stanley. And I've seen

2359
01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 4: this many times over the last five or six days

2360
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:42,000
Speaker 4: since the Combine Aftermath has been written up. Does the

2361
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:44,599
Speaker 4: people that are writing that check in with the other

2362
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:47,840
Speaker 4: thirty teams I'm eliminating Baltimore, the other thirty teams to

2363
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 4: see if they're interested in Stanley or if they checked

2364
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:54,160
Speaker 4: in with Stanley's representatives to find out if Stanley's interested

2365
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:58,040
Speaker 4: in the Patriots, or are they simply saying the Patriots

2366
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 4: have a lot of interest in Ronnie Stanley, which I believe.

2367
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:05,160
Speaker 4: So it just drives me crazy that the Patriots have

2368
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:10,639
Speaker 4: been deemed front runners for basically every time Dick and Harry,

2369
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:13,360
Speaker 4: that Mike, Evan and Paul have targeted as guys that

2370
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:18,200
Speaker 4: we would like, like Ronnie Stanley, T Higgins, you know,

2371
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:23,599
Speaker 4: Cam Robinson in case we can't get those guys like oh,

2372
01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:27,200
Speaker 4: Milton Williams. Front runner, They're a front runner for every

2373
01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:30,639
Speaker 4: key free agent that's out there. I don't know how

2374
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 4: you know that. How do you know that one team

2375
01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 4: is a front runner unless that team, I mean, that

2376
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 4: player is indicated that's where he wants to.

2377
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:41,840
Speaker 5: Let's go Patriots, right, Well, that's a great question. Paul,

2378
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:43,160
Speaker 5: And I was about to before you win in that

2379
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:45,599
Speaker 5: I was about to ask you do we feel like

2380
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:48,320
Speaker 5: everybody's ready when Ronnie Stanley goes somewhere else, because it

2381
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:50,360
Speaker 5: feels like all the eggs are in that basket right now.

2382
01:48:50,439 --> 01:48:53,120
Speaker 4: Have another part to this one, a lot of these

2383
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:57,000
Speaker 4: little free This is my free agent plan again, which

2384
01:48:57,040 --> 01:49:00,680
Speaker 4: all involves all the players that sign everyone that my

2385
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 4: wife could give you the names at this point, you know,

2386
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 4: ye by absolutely have they gotten dk Metcalf? Yeah, like

2387
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:11,439
Speaker 4: literally names that Beth could give you. Okay that this

2388
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 4: God knows Paul, she does, yeh, she.

2389
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:14,840
Speaker 2: Knows, Paul.

2390
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:20,120
Speaker 4: She said, sign Ronnie Stanley to a two year contract

2391
01:49:20,439 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 4: for maybe two years forty min Okay. So, and I

2392
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 4: get the idea you want to get maybe a give

2393
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:30,960
Speaker 4: them good money short term. He's an older guy.

2394
01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:32,760
Speaker 2: Why is he signed? What's in there for him?

2395
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:37,439
Speaker 4: Why is he signing a two year deal where he's limited?

2396
01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:39,280
Speaker 4: This is probably going to be his last big contract.

2397
01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 4: Let Wolf cook, right, this is probably Ronnie Stanley's the

2398
01:49:43,080 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 4: last big contract. I think he's probably looking for more

2399
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:47,960
Speaker 4: than two years, so the number can be bigger and

2400
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 4: it can be spread out for the team but everybody's

2401
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 4: just gonna sign like one in two year deals with

2402
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:55,400
Speaker 4: the Patriots and if they really want.

2403
01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 2: Three, we'll give them three.

2404
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:58,960
Speaker 4: You know, like everybody's gonna fall all over themselves to

2405
01:49:59,000 --> 01:49:59,879
Speaker 4: sign with the Patriots.

2406
01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 2: Everyone.

2407
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:02,320
Speaker 5: I mean, the Chiefs are going to make a push

2408
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:03,920
Speaker 5: for him, right, I mean, that's what I felt like

2409
01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:04,280
Speaker 5: with the.

2410
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:07,960
Speaker 4: That's like the Guards pushes. That makes sense.

2411
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 5: The Chiefs give him three years.

2412
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:11,519
Speaker 4: And I don't know why they would have let Orlando

2413
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:13,400
Speaker 4: Brown go in the first place, if that's what they

2414
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 4: wanted to do. But you guys tell me it's not

2415
01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:18,640
Speaker 4: because they're cheap, and it's because of the positions that

2416
01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 4: they're in.

2417
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:20,679
Speaker 3: But everybody's got a bit.

2418
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:23,519
Speaker 4: They had that guy in his prime at left tackle

2419
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:27,320
Speaker 4: and said, yeah, yeah, see, you like it's going to

2420
01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:28,040
Speaker 4: be their undoing.

2421
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 2: Maybe they are going to be their undoing. You watch

2422
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:33,799
Speaker 2: up for that mistake. Jason and ernin right sin enjoying

2423
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:37,040
Speaker 2: the show with all the recent short arm talk, Robert

2424
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:39,719
Speaker 2: Gallery six seven with thirty two and a quarter inch arms,

2425
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:42,360
Speaker 2: No wonder he failed. How come he was so lauded?

2426
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 2: Was the short arms theory not in vogue back then?

2427
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:48,599
Speaker 2: Tyron Smith six' five with thirty six and three eighth

2428
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:52,920
Speaker 2: inch arms and thirty inch bench. Reps Beast wow stats From.

2429
01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 2: Wikipedia don't know where else to find this. Information. Tyron,

2430
01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:58,679
Speaker 2: listen When Tyron smith was, right when he was, healthy

2431
01:50:59,120 --> 01:51:01,960
Speaker 2: there was nobody better in the. GAME i MEAN i

2432
01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:04,960
Speaker 2: used to watch him, play like rarely do you just

2433
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:07,679
Speaker 2: focus on The he would like he would just lost

2434
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 2: a guy up and it was just, over it was.

2435
01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:11,880
Speaker 2: OVER i loved watching.

2436
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:12,360
Speaker 3: Him he.

2437
01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:13,719
Speaker 2: Is he was one of my favorite.

2438
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 3: Players when you do like prototypes at each position of

2439
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:20,840
Speaker 3: like you, know what's the prototypical, receiver, quarterback? Tackle Tyron

2440
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 3: smith is the prototypical. Tackle, yeah how along with those

2441
01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:30,519
Speaker 3: arms cities length technique he is print him out of

2442
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:31,400
Speaker 3: a three and he wore.

2443
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:34,200
Speaker 2: Those big elbow things like he looked like a machine.

2444
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 2: Fat he was just like you, know for a guy his,

2445
01:51:39,120 --> 01:51:40,639
Speaker 2: size he was you know right.

2446
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:42,960
Speaker 3: There he was one of the first GUYS i would

2447
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:46,880
Speaker 3: say that wasn't like one of these and he's the word,

2448
01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:50,280
Speaker 3: fat but like he's like, trimmed like he's an, Athlete

2449
01:51:50,360 --> 01:51:53,360
Speaker 3: like he is not a hog, molly you, know like

2450
01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 3: he's a true. Athlete he's first Ballot hall of famer

2451
01:51:57,160 --> 01:51:57,719
Speaker 3: in My oh.

2452
01:51:57,640 --> 01:52:00,920
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, yep dominant at his basis in his. Era.

2453
01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:06,320
Speaker 2: Uh anthony From Cape Cape, Coral, florida first time emailing.

2454
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:10,240
Speaker 2: Uh and the reason is to bring up my least favorite,

2455
01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:13,320
Speaker 2: Caller brad From. Michigan, LOOK i get. It we should

2456
01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:16,320
Speaker 2: draft every player From. Michigan that will really help us.

2457
01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:18,639
Speaker 2: Rebuild every time he calls and asks if we should

2458
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:20,840
Speaker 2: draft all The michigan, GUYS i want to turn off the.

2459
01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:23,920
Speaker 2: Stream maybe we should get a band list for annoying

2460
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:25,280
Speaker 2: callers call.

2461
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:29,639
Speaker 4: Crime then we don't have you, know we need all

2462
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 4: Of we need all of our, listeners not just one

2463
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:32,600
Speaker 4: or two of.

2464
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 1: THEM i.

2465
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:35,519
Speaker 5: Know we welcome, everyone and we gotta we gotta get

2466
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:38,639
Speaker 5: going on the who's that caller? Game the blind test

2467
01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 5: of Who Who's who's?

2468
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 4: That we're gonna ask some photo we, Need.

2469
01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:45,360
Speaker 2: We need people to bring in sending their.

2470
01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:47,800
Speaker 5: Photos maybe we do a call to action at some

2471
01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:50,080
Speaker 5: point in the in the newsletter for that and say

2472
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:55,080
Speaker 5: sending sending a photo of yourself with your name just.

2473
01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:57,400
Speaker 4: Yeah maybe they just send it to the newsletter and

2474
01:52:57,400 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 4: that way we don't get any.

2475
01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:00,360
Speaker 5: Good.

2476
01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:02,760
Speaker 4: Call Right if they send him To, alex then we

2477
01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:03,800
Speaker 4: don't get a chance to see.

2478
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 2: Them, Yeah James, pettigrew the most Interesting patriots fan in the,

2479
01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 2: world wants to know if we ever Measured andy's arm.

2480
01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:11,920
Speaker 2: Length that's a great.

2481
01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:14,639
Speaker 5: Question his head, length his head with AND i.

2482
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:16,960
Speaker 2: Know do we have a, ruler that's what we. NEED

2483
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:21,240
Speaker 2: i did see you On.

2484
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:25,080
Speaker 4: Twitter someone's like calling, Out, andy you're getting killed ON pu.

2485
01:53:25,160 --> 01:53:28,479
Speaker 2: Today but the truth is never. Mean well, listen we

2486
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 2: had to push up contest and he did twice as,

2487
01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 2: many but he went half as far, Right i'm telling you.

2488
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 2: Faster he didn't even like even with the short, arms

2489
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:41,320
Speaker 2: he didn't even get to full. Length so like it

2490
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 2: was just he was.

2491
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:44,840
Speaker 4: Cheating is that like when you beat him in three?

2492
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:48,519
Speaker 2: SPORTS i did you? Know that's? True he even admits.

2493
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:51,080
Speaker 4: It, WELL i saw you beat him IN i beat

2494
01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 4: him in.

2495
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:53,840
Speaker 2: TENNIS i beat him in one on one, basketball AND

2496
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:54,439
Speaker 2: i beat him At.

2497
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:58,920
Speaker 4: HORSE i Think horse one on one.

2498
01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:05,240
Speaker 8: Basketball, well, no of, course you're just taking shots basketball.

2499
01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 2: Shots SO i bade. HIM i beat him in three.

2500
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:08,559
Speaker 2: Endeavors the.

2501
01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:12,320
Speaker 4: Tennis THING i was on hand. FOR i did a

2502
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:13,200
Speaker 4: little announcing over.

2503
01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:15,920
Speaker 2: That that was the one. Here this is when we

2504
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:18,200
Speaker 2: were In San. Diego we were staying At Tory pines

2505
01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 2: AND i was. There you weren't there that?

2506
01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:25,799
Speaker 4: Day that Was that was the day you guys deemed

2507
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:28,439
Speaker 4: me drunk because she blinded me with. Science was all

2508
01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:30,880
Speaker 4: night in the bar AND i, said the.

2509
01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:33,920
Speaker 2: Trip but you weren't outside with you weren't outside you

2510
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:36,280
Speaker 2: were there on the trip for. SURE i had to

2511
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:39,960
Speaker 2: fall back to your. ROOM i was really afraid someone

2512
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:42,440
Speaker 2: was going to take. Advantage that was what it was.

2513
01:54:44,280 --> 01:54:47,120
Speaker 2: LIKE i was leaving for the, night going back and,

2514
01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:49,280
Speaker 2: fight and you go with me because he THOUGHT i

2515
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:51,600
Speaker 2: was going to get lost BECAUSE i was.

2516
01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:55,520
Speaker 4: Drunk we've been there a few so did everybody, ELSE i.

2517
01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:58,400
Speaker 2: Know but like you, know you know that bothers me

2518
01:54:58,440 --> 01:55:01,440
Speaker 2: more than getting dems drunk playing music in that you,

2519
01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 2: know blinded me with, science And paul just blurts out.

2520
01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:09,920
Speaker 9: Side i'm, like, okay wrap.

2521
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:09,960
Speaker 2: It, up.

2522
01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:14,480
Speaker 5: PLEASE i love that version Of, paul Though i've only

2523
01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:15,960
Speaker 5: seen that a couple of times when we used, to you,

2524
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:17,120
Speaker 5: know travel. Together but it's.

2525
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:17,760
Speaker 2: Fun it's.

2526
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:19,680
Speaker 5: Fun it's fun With. Tennessee is a cool hand?

2527
01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:19,880
Speaker 1: Up?

2528
01:55:20,600 --> 01:55:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah what? What? What cool? Hand it's. Cool it's a cool.

2529
01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:26,080
Speaker 2: Hang it's a cool.

2530
01:55:26,080 --> 01:55:28,320
Speaker 5: Hang especially like In tennessee when he got got.

2531
01:55:28,360 --> 01:55:32,880
Speaker 2: Spotted you're out if you're out and About paul and no.

2532
01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:34,160
Speaker 2: Socks you want.

2533
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:36,880
Speaker 3: To, know no socks is a, legend you, know the

2534
01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:37,280
Speaker 3: best bar.

2535
01:55:37,480 --> 01:55:40,200
Speaker 4: Everywhere so the only thing that he likes to, have

2536
01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:45,560
Speaker 4: no socks and. Different he loves live music and if

2537
01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:50,120
Speaker 4: it happens to be, outdoors better. Loves i'm sort OF

2538
01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:52,840
Speaker 4: i don't mind the outdoor. PART i love like there's

2539
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:58,360
Speaker 4: nothing to me like the, summer getting dinner on an

2540
01:55:58,360 --> 01:56:00,840
Speaker 4: outside down like on the water prefer.

2541
01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:03,000
Speaker 2: Fresco, yeah that's that to.

2542
01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:05,360
Speaker 4: Me that that's good. Living right, THERE i REALIZED i

2543
01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:08,680
Speaker 4: don't need the live. Music, YEAH I i need to.

2544
01:56:08,720 --> 01:56:09,920
Speaker 4: Sing she blinded me with science.

2545
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:12,640
Speaker 5: Myself the UH i, MEAN i think one of the first.

2546
01:56:12,680 --> 01:56:14,600
Speaker 5: TIMES I i, MEAN i just started when we went

2547
01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:16,560
Speaker 5: to Sennes. See but THEN i got up into karaoke

2548
01:56:16,640 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 5: in front of, that and NOW i realized that must

2549
01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:18,680
Speaker 5: have been really.

2550
01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:19,400
Speaker 2: Music.

2551
01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:21,000
Speaker 5: Guy this guy's up there singing like live.

2552
01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:24,800
Speaker 4: Music that. Was so we're In, nashville right and, obviously,

2553
01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:27,960
Speaker 4: yeah That's matt's. Haven you, know it's like live music

2554
01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:31,880
Speaker 4: and where are so we're trying to go in and

2555
01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:33,720
Speaker 4: we're trying to get. Places mike AND i are waiting

2556
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:36,720
Speaker 4: like literally a half hour to get a, beer like

2557
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:40,040
Speaker 4: one beard at the. Bar it's, packed so we're, like,

2558
01:56:40,280 --> 01:56:41,760
Speaker 4: what you, know the one good thing is you were

2559
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:44,280
Speaker 4: able to walk around with the beer In. Nashville so

2560
01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:46,520
Speaker 4: we get a beer and we like go back outside

2561
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:50,000
Speaker 4: because it was like really. Hot and then we just

2562
01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:52,120
Speaker 4: happened to like stumble into place right next door and

2563
01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:55,880
Speaker 4: it's like the same exact layout, bar you, know all

2564
01:56:55,960 --> 01:56:57,760
Speaker 4: kinds of only it's not a live bar.

2565
01:56:57,840 --> 01:56:59,120
Speaker 2: Place it's it's a karaoke.

2566
01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:02,000
Speaker 4: Place you, know all this music play is not really

2567
01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:04,000
Speaker 4: a lot of people doing the carryo yet the. Time

2568
01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:06,040
Speaker 4: So mike AND i are, LIKE i don't know about,

2569
01:57:06,040 --> 01:57:08,200
Speaker 4: you but this place is fine with me with This.

2570
01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:12,160
Speaker 4: Mike So mike AND i set you, know we set

2571
01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 4: down the, hooks we pitched the, tent and we're in

2572
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:15,160
Speaker 4: for the nights.

2573
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:17,880
Speaker 2: Down we'll get to that.

2574
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:24,040
Speaker 4: Way so here it, comes no, socks, disgusted disgusted with

2575
01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:24,480
Speaker 4: us all this.

2576
01:57:24,600 --> 01:57:25,600
Speaker 2: Music like we're In.

2577
01:57:25,680 --> 01:57:29,680
Speaker 4: Nashville there's a live band, there there's a live band.

2578
01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:32,480
Speaker 4: There AND i was, Like, MATT i just want to be.

2579
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:34,920
Speaker 4: HERE i just want to. DRINK i just want to

2580
01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:37,400
Speaker 4: have some. FUN i just you, KNOW i can you.

2581
01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:40,120
Speaker 4: Know it was crowded but not. Packed it's not like

2582
01:57:40,120 --> 01:57:43,160
Speaker 4: we were the only people. Here it was crowded but not.

2583
01:57:43,320 --> 01:57:47,080
Speaker 4: Packed and we go over AND i know the way

2584
01:57:47,120 --> 01:57:49,920
Speaker 4: To Uncle matt's. HEART i get him a couple of

2585
01:57:49,960 --> 01:57:53,040
Speaker 4: coronas right, away AND i get. Him now he's. IN

2586
01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:54,680
Speaker 4: i got him double. Fisted he's in for.

2587
01:57:54,720 --> 01:57:56,880
Speaker 3: All this one's got a hole in, it, Correct i've

2588
01:57:56,920 --> 01:57:59,080
Speaker 3: been here, Before i've been here.

2589
01:57:59,120 --> 01:58:04,680
Speaker 4: Before this one has a whole. Right so, now all

2590
01:58:04,720 --> 01:58:07,000
Speaker 4: of a, sudden like fast forward like an, hour and

2591
01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:13,200
Speaker 4: all of a, sudden it's like your best Friend harry.

2592
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:14,840
Speaker 2: To the middle.

2593
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:20,640
Speaker 5: Stage there was some there was some middle aged women

2594
01:58:20,680 --> 01:58:29,040
Speaker 5: in the middle that really the woman killing me softly version. Times,

2595
01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:30,400
Speaker 5: yeah that's.

2596
01:58:30,440 --> 01:58:32,120
Speaker 2: Great it was a great, starting great.

2597
01:58:32,200 --> 01:58:37,240
Speaker 3: Start he is the best Person i've ever seen in my.

2598
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Speaker 4: Life he's fun the.

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Speaker 2: Time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he texted us one night at The combine and he,

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Speaker 3: says don't know what you guys are, doing but at

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Speaker 3: around nine, O'CLOCK i will be at this. Establishment its

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Speaker 3: local locals gonna.

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Speaker 2: Say he's reading the.

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01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:52,120
Speaker 4: Text it.

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Speaker 22: Was, said there's local dive bar that has live, music

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Speaker 22: and maybe maybe it might have been The tin, roof,

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01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:05,600
Speaker 22: right Maybe i'll see you, There and sure enough we show,

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Speaker 22: up and who's right at the?

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Speaker 21: Bar?

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Speaker 3: When, yeah listening to live? Music Maddie smith right there and? Perfect?

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Speaker 2: Perfect jake writes in can we get a story? Time

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01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:20,440
Speaker 2: Where andy alluded on his show to having a member

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01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:23,320
Speaker 2: of The unfiltered crew wanting to fight him a few years.

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Speaker 2: AGO i don't know about. That a member of our

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Speaker 2: show wanting to fight? Him that been? ME i don't.

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Speaker 4: Know did you want to Fight?

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01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:34,720
Speaker 3: Andy, NO i don't want to fight you.

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01:59:34,720 --> 01:59:37,360
Speaker 4: Want, it and you might want to rethink that now

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01:59:38,600 --> 01:59:39,880
Speaker 4: that that must be who they're talking.

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01:59:39,880 --> 01:59:42,640
Speaker 2: To sometimes have been time you wanted to fight?

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01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:44,240
Speaker 3: Him that's, okay we're over it.

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01:59:44,320 --> 01:59:45,880
Speaker 2: NOW a lot of PEOPLE i, don't you. Don't you

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Speaker 2: don't want that. Smoke i'm okay with the.

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01:59:47,840 --> 01:59:48,920
Speaker 3: Smoke but we're over it.

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01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:49,160
Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: Okay, YEAH i need to find out about.

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Speaker 5: This, yeah to TELL i can take your face and

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01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:56,440
Speaker 5: rub it in the.

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Speaker 2: Mud i'm gonna need more context of, that all, Right, well,

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Speaker 2: listen that's gonna be it for this edition Of Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Unfiltered the newsletter comes out. Tomorrow if you want to,

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Speaker 2: That alex is the editor. Of and we've got some

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Speaker 2: good questions About deuce in this one coming up.

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Speaker 4: Right, yeah, YEAH i Liked fred's. ANSWER i love the

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Speaker 4: fact That fred field the need to reply to.

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Speaker 2: ALL i don't read.

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Speaker 5: IT i try not to read any of.

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Speaker 2: IT i like to don't tell, anybody don't spoil it for,

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Speaker 2: anyone say what the answer.

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Speaker 4: Was but you replied to, all so obviously you didn't

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Speaker 4: care if anybody read.

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Speaker 5: It.

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Speaker 2: Well USUALLY i like to keep it, secret especially when

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Speaker 2: we're doing, picks BECAUSE i don't.

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Speaker 4: Want next time reply to Just.

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Speaker 2: Alex it's a. Secret all. Right we will see you Next.

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