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Speaker 1: How are we doing about ten o'clock at night? And

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Speaker 1: I just witnessed the Eagles, like many of you who

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Speaker 1: And then Bill Belichick, who is interviewing or interviewed today

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Speaker 1: Some good games, I mean Bill's Chiefs. How awesome is that?

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Speaker 1: of people have success there. This is the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay. He did what Tom Brady couldn't do

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Speaker 1: last year. I'm watching pretty much same team, a lot

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Speaker 1: of the same guys, a lot of god Win, a

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Speaker 1: lot of Evans, a lot of Vitavea Right, a lot

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Speaker 1: of Antwina Winfield. I mean, this is their team. That's

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Speaker 1: the other thing tonight you notice against the Eagles Tampa

433
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Speaker 1: for being a team that not many people thought was

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Speaker 1: any good and rightfully so. I mean that they had

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Speaker 1: their ups and downs throughout the season. Have a lot

436
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Speaker 1: of talent on their roster. Now some of it's older,

437
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Speaker 1: but they have a lot of high end players, a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys that would play for other playoff teams.

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Speaker 1: And if he plays well like he did tonight, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be a problem because defensively they have good players

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Speaker 1: at every level. They have good dbs, they have two

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Speaker 1: good linebackers, and they have a ton of good guys

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Speaker 1: on the you know, on the front four and obviously

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Speaker 1: Vi Deevea is how I don't think I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: the Toush push stopped. I swear to God. Now I

446
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Speaker 1: haven't watched every single tush push the last couple of years,

447
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Speaker 1: but every Eagles game I've watched with the Toush push,

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Speaker 1: they have got either the first down or the touchdown

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Speaker 1: or the two pointer. They have never been stuffed. I

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Speaker 1: have never personally live watched an Eagles game and seen

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Speaker 1: that play stopped. And honestly, most times, like when it's

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Speaker 1: fourth and one or fourth and two, or even they

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Speaker 1: go for it on the two point play, it feels

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Speaker 1: like they gained three or four yards, like it's not

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Speaker 1: even remotely close to stop. Usually, if you say what

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Speaker 1: happens on the tush push, I'd say, well, the middle

457
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: linebacker usually jumps on Jalen's back and he crowd serves

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Speaker 1: for like three yards because he has no leverage. They

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Speaker 1: shove the defensive lineback, and they get whatever they're attempting

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Speaker 1: to gain easily. Yet tonight against Tampa with Vitevea, they

461
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Speaker 1: got fucking stuffed. When that happened, you knew the game

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Speaker 1: was over. And it speaks to like this Bucks team

463
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Speaker 1: is not some little random squad with a bunch of

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Speaker 1: with a bunch of mees. I mean, they got a

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Speaker 1: lot of high end, highly paid, older veteran players who

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Speaker 1: look pretty damn good tonight. And the other thing is,

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Speaker 1: like with Baker Mayfield, there was an energy and an

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Speaker 1: effort to them that was not matched by the Eagles. Right.

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Speaker 1: And to me, Todd Bowles, who I was around a

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Speaker 1: little bit in Philadelphia, has always been and I've always

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Speaker 1: said this about him because I never thought he was

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Speaker 1: a great head coach. He's an elite defensive coordinator. As

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Speaker 1: a defensive mind, he's a former dB, understanding coverages, great, Blitzer, great,

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Speaker 1: just with the players on defense that that defense flies around.

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Speaker 1: And tonight his team as a whole just came in

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Speaker 1: with more war winning this game. Like one team showed

477
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Speaker 1: up tonight knowing they were gonna win. The other team

478
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Speaker 1: kind of showed up like we'll just see what happens.

479
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Speaker 1: And one was clearly the Bucks that had the belief.

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00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: And so to me, Baker Mayfield incredible turnaround season. Think

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Speaker 1: about the way his career in Tampa started. He called

482
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Speaker 1: them Jason light has said this publicly multiple times. He

483
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: reached out to us, said hey, I would love to

484
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Speaker 1: play for you guys, I thought it'd be a good spot.

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Speaker 1: This was not some player that people were lined up

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Speaker 1: to get. And then to night he goes twenty two

487
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Speaker 1: to thirty six or three hundred and forty yards at

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Speaker 1: three touchdowns and he just he just played very under control.

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Speaker 1: How many balls were even close to being intercepted? A

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Speaker 1: ton of balls. He had multiple balls hit guys in

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Speaker 1: the hands. Aughton had a bad drop. Mike Evans drop

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Speaker 1: the ball early in the game down the sideline that

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Speaker 1: might have been a touchdown. I mean Baker in terms

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Speaker 1: of accuracy. So if you're telling me he's matured, the

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Speaker 1: players like him and he's just a solid player. Like

496
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Speaker 1: what if he can be in that, you know, kind

497
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Speaker 1: of where Kirk Cousins and Dak have been, you know,

498
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: somewhere between ten and fifteen for the next several years. Well,

499
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Speaker 1: Tampa doesn't need to hit the reset button. They can

500
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Speaker 1: kind of do a slow rebuild, keep adding and keep competing.

501
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Speaker 1: So Baker Mayfield actually can keep their organization funneling in

502
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Speaker 1: the right direction right A little bit like what happened

503
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Speaker 1: with the Detroit Lions, who ironically they're playing two former

504
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 1: number one quarterbacks. The team said this guy suck now.

505
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Speaker 1: The difference was Jared Goff had had a lot of success.

506
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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield had a little and then got kicked to

507
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Speaker 1: the curb, started playing bad, and then went to Carolina

508
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: and last year was really bad. So I understand a

509
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Speaker 1: lot of people being off the scent on Baker Mayfield

510
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: because Jared GoF had a big contract if you wanted

511
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Speaker 1: to trade for him, which you know, may teams nervous,

512
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 1: which I'd argue, He's one of the best deals in

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Speaker 1: the NFL right now. At twenty five million dollars a year.

514
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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield could have been had for under five million dollars,

515
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: and people just weren't interested. And that's one that you

516
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Speaker 1: look back. He threw twenty eight touchdowns this year. He

517
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: had three touchdowns a night. He just looks like a

518
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Speaker 1: solid NFL player. Throws a beautiful ball, He's accurate, he's

519
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: got a good arm, he can move definitely well enough.

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00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: I used to be critical of him because I thought

521
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Speaker 1: he thought he was too good of an athlete. Right

522
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Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel, who's a better athlete than Baker, but also

523
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Speaker 1: had this It's like, Johnny, this is not college. You

524
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: can't run away from these offensive linemen. You got to

525
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Speaker 1: play under control, but you know, pick your spots. Baker's

526
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Speaker 1: done a pretty good job of like making some plays

527
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Speaker 1: picking his spots because he can keep plays alive with

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Speaker 1: his legs, but he can't run away from anyone else.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing with Baker Mayfield is he the

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Speaker 1: greatest slider you've ever seen. How great are his slides?

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Speaker 1: Like he like slides six yards, pops up. It's like

532
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Speaker 1: he's a like he played for the La Dodgers organization

533
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Speaker 1: or something. Just a natural. So incredible night for shitty

534
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Speaker 1: as it was for the Eagles and Eagles fans, which

535
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: it's probably one of the worst nights you'll ever have

536
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Speaker 1: given the hype coming into the season, giving how a

537
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: month ago, you know you were like ten and one.

538
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Speaker 1: What a cool night for Tampa Bay. Right Tom quits

539
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: on you retires and rightfully so understandable it was over

540
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: and then to come back. I was wrong. I mean

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Speaker 1: I missed on a lot of playoff teams this year.

542
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: I thought the Rams were gonna suck. I thought Tampa

543
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: was gonna suck. I thought the Cowboys were gonna compete

544
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Speaker 1: for a Super Bowl. So shit, I don't even don't

545
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: listen to my predictions when it comes to the beginning

546
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Speaker 1: of the season. But watching Tampa now, I'm gonna take

547
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: pick Detroit next week, but I definitely give them a chance.

548
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: I mean, if Baker keeps getting healthy. They got offensive weapons.

549
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: What does Detroit struggle with covering people in the back end?

550
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: What can Tampa do well? They can throw the ball

551
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: because they got offensive weapons. So incredible night for Todd Bowles,

552
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: awesome night for Baker Mayfield. You just can't make up

553
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: the NFL. It's why it's the ultimate reality show. Think

554
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: about some of the upsets so far, right, Houston upset Cleveland,

555
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: Packers destroy the Cowboys, Tampa beats the Eagles. I mean,

556
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: you just you can't make this shit up. I do

557
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: think this leads into Belichick though, because it was reported

558
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: today that he was with Arthur Blank on a yacht interviewing.

559
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have teams lined up for him.

560
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: And I knew this was the case whenever I see

561
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Speaker 1: people in the interweb like Belichick sucks, It's like, guys,

562
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Speaker 1: he's been in nine Super Bowls, he won six of them.

563
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Speaker 1: He's out coached every good coach in the NFL. Over

564
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Speaker 1: the last twenty plus years. I'd say he kind of

565
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. And the other thing that's clear

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Speaker 1: is like Josh McDaniel's gonna come with him. So the

567
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Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons want Bill Belichick. Right, If Sirianni and Mike

568
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: McCarthy are relieved of their duties, guess what their owners

569
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Speaker 1: are gonna want. Jeffrey Luriy lost the Super Bowl to Belichick.

570
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: He's from Boston. Jerry Jones has had one coach in

571
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Speaker 1: the last since Jimmy Johnson in Belichick's kind of universe,

572
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: and it helped change the franchise and get them a

573
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: stadium built in Bill Parcells. Those two owners are not

574
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: some new age new money just come into the league.

575
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: These guys have been around for all of Belichick's run.

576
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna want a piece of that action, I'll promise you.

577
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: Because both teams are in similar situations, they feel like

578
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: they're close that you know. Obviously, Jerry's like over eighty,

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Speaker 1: I don't have much time left. So Belichick. For every

580
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,959
Speaker 1: idiot on the interweb that just thought, who's gonna want

581
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: this old curmudgeon a lot of people, he is gonna

582
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Speaker 1: get paid a boatload of money. I think in the

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00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: history of America, no seventy two year old W two

584
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Speaker 1: employee that costs twenty plus million dollars a year will

585
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Speaker 1: ever be more sought after than Bill Belichick in the

586
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: next two weeks, and I there's a decent chance in

587
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: the rest of time it'll never happen again. Seriously, like

588
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: our seventy two year old actors making that much money.

589
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: When does a I over seventy as an employee. It's

590
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: one thing as a business owner or as you know,

591
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: an investor or something as a as an employee ever

592
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: have the desire from potential employees lined up employers to

593
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: have his services. So you watch this Belichick thing is

594
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: really gonna heat up. And you saw Tomlin a night

595
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: walk off. That thing's gonna get weird. The reason why

596
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: McCarthy and definitely Sirianni are more than likely just completely

597
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: fucked partly is because of my options. If I own

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00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: one of those teams, Vrabel's already there, Well, Rabel, I

599
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: get the package with with Arthur Smith. I've seen them

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00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: win playoff games and he's just a real coach. Right,

601
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: we all would take Vrabel over Nick Sirianni and listen,

602
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: you know what crazy thing about Mike McCarthy is he's

603
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Speaker 1: actually a good regular season coach. He was like way

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00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: in Green Bay and he's this way in Dallas. Yet

605
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: in the playoffs it's just like not even close. So

606
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: to me, Mike Vrabel, Mike Tomlin, Bill Belichick, these guys

607
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: have a proven track record, so I can talk shit

608
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: about like, hey, listen, CEO. Head coaches are risky, it

609
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: is true. But if you give me the right offensive

610
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: coordinator with these guys, if I'm the owner, I know

611
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: for a fact if I'm gonna make because it's a

612
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: risky decision firing a guy that I have won with

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00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: and then I'm currently winning with that I'm in the

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00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: playoffs with, right, I'm more than likely not going to

615
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: fire that guy to go hire Ben Johnson, who's thirty six,

616
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: thirty seven, thirty eight years old, never been a head coach.

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00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: That's a risky move, but it's not risky when you

618
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: get guys with long resumes of being in a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: of being in the playoffs, of winning super bowls. So

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Speaker 1: to me, Belichick is clearly the number one option for

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Speaker 1: all the teams that are really close and for whatever reason.

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily agree. Atlanta thinks they're really close. I

623
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Speaker 1: watched the press conference when they fired Arthur Smith. They

624
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: think they have the pieces to compete in the NFC.

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00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily agree, but they believe that. The owner

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Speaker 1: and Rich McKay believe that. Clearly, Jeffrey Leary and Jerry

627
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: Owns believe that. So if you think you are close,

628
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: well who could give you the ability to get the

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00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: closest with the guys you have? It's gonna be Bill

630
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:15,959
Speaker 1: Belichick been coaching the league since nineteen seventy five. So listen,

631
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Speaker 1: everyone that pushes back on that, you just you're being

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00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: naive to this situation. So I wouldn't be shocked to

633
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: see somewhat of a bidding war between all these owners.

634
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: Like these are rich owners. These aren't cash strapped owners.

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Speaker 1: These are owners that could cut him a four year,

636
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: ninety five million dollar check without even blinking. They can

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00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: fire all their staffs and they wouldn't even think twice.

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Speaker 1: Here's your parachute, see up, here's your money. Audios, get

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Speaker 1: out of pack your shit, get out of my building.

640
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Speaker 1: So you get ready, because this Belichick's Belichick Sweepstakes is

641
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: going to really really heat up, and whoever doesn't get him,

642
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: that wants him, is going to be all over the

643
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: vable business. And if in when Tomlin becomes available, because

644
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: I'm sorry him walking off any coach that has one

645
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: year remaining on their contract, Belichick did Tomlin? Does? Mike

646
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: McCarthy does. You're at a fork in the road. Do

647
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: you know what you do? You either extend the guy

648
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: or you fire the guy. No one coaches in college

649
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: or the pros with one year remaining on their contract.

650
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 1: That's not the way the business works. Even though most

651
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: of us human beings, you know, work or at will

652
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: employees kind of work a year to year situation. It's

653
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: very normal in society, But when it's your head coach,

654
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: it's an authority situation. If the players know this guy's

655
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 1: dead man walking right, what are they doing? And that's

656
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: why when you watch the Eagles, did their players view

657
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: Nick sirianni as this guy's done anyway, I'm not playing

658
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: for this guy. The McCarthy thing just feel felt like

659
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: no one was ready to roll, Like did they even

660
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: practice that week? Did they even watch Jordan Love and

661
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: the Packers playoffense? Over the last four five weeks, Dan Quinn,

662
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: are we breaking down film or we just kind of

663
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 1: kicking it on the couch. What's going on here? I'd

664
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: expect this thing to get wild because it's pretty clear

665
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: Harball and the Chargers feel like it's gonna happen. It

666
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: feels like the Raiders are gonna end up hiring Antonio Pierce,

667
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: which I'm pro Antonio Pierce, but this is not the NBA.

668
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: And when Max Crosby says, if they don't hire the

669
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: guy I want them to hire, I'm going to demand

670
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: a trade. It's like, I like you, Max, and you're

671
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: a stud and you can play for my team any day.

672
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: But that's not usually how NFL teams operate out of

673
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: the fear of one of their players being pissed off

674
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: that they don't hire the guy they want him to hire.

675
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: You know, it's you went eight and nine and I

676
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: know you had some nice wins over like the Denver

677
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: Broncos and the Brandon Staley Gutlass Chargers, but let's not

678
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: annoyt you as like some can't miss coaching prospect. Again,

679
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: I like Antonio Pierce, but it does feel like they're

680
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: getting pressured into that a little bit. Also, like Harrball

681
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: might not want any part of them. Mark Davis doesn't

682
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: want to beside Harbaugh, not comfortable paying any of these people.

683
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: But I think it's gonna play out pretty quickly, and

684
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: then it's gonna be onto Washington what they do Carolina.

685
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: I think they're at a huge disadvantage now. Money talks,

686
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: but people gonna want to work for that nut job

687
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 1: on right. Typically think about Dan Snyder down the stretch

688
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: of his career. He got guys with that that many

689
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: options after Mike Shanahan because it was so clear like

690
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: this guy's a kook, this guy is a fucking loon.

691
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: And that's what David Tepper feels like at even a

692
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: higher level because he has even more money. I mean,

693
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: he's firing people left and right. So I think some

694
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: of these jobs are going to be of great interest.

695
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: I think Washington now with Adam Peters is gonna have

696
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: a lot of candidates lined up. Number two pick in

697
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: the draft and a quarterback draft. I think Caroline is

698
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a big, big disadvantage. And I think when

699
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Cowboys jobs open, those are places

700
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: with huge resources, Those are places where the owner will

701
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: do anything you want to win. I mean, by any player,

702
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: make any trade, they will be relentless. Listen, you can

703
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: say what you want about Jerry Jones, like he's built

704
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: a pretty good football team. Lurie might pull the trigger

705
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: after three years when he fires a coach who's had

706
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: some success, but it's just because he wants to win.

707
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: He's not firing the guy because he looks at him

708
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: weird or you know, he doesn't think he's a good

709
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: guy just because he's like, you're not winning. He's just

710
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: It's just a very black and white business. Either producer,

711
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: you don't and when you don't, I gotta move on. Now.

712
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: The Eagles leash historically, can you know, post Andy Reid

713
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: pretty short, but usually it's justified, like when have they

714
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: been wrong? Like Chip Kelly had to go Doug, Like

715
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: I'd say that one's age pretty well. And this Sirianni

716
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: thing feels a little bit like that last year of Doug,

717
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: like gotta go Okay. I want to do a little

718
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: middle cooff mail bag. It's actually halftime of the Bill

719
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: Steele a little bit of a route and wanted to

720
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: fire in a mail bag for Tuesday. You guys know

721
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: the drill at John Middlecoff is my Instagram DMS wide open,

722
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Speaker 1: fire in them, get your questions answered here on the show.

723
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Speaker 1: We will start with the Josh two f's my last name.

724
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: If the Bears are keeping Eberflus, isn't the isn't that

725
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: evidence that they're gonna keep fields? If they draft a

726
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: new quarterback and it doesn't go well in your one,

727
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,479
Speaker 1: they'd have to fire them. But it would be hard

728
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: on a young quarterback to fire the coach after one season.

729
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm wondering because you seem certain the Bears will trade fields.

730
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 1: I was actually thinking about this watching Josh Allen slinging around.

731
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: If Sunday wasn't evidence that you have to get a

732
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: quarterback to throw within the pocket to compete in your

733
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: own division. I don't know what else information you need.

734
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: Jared Goff has been solid now for a couple of

735
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Speaker 1: years in Detroit, and Jordan Love looks like a mixture

736
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Speaker 1: of farm and Rogers. Now, I'm not gonna just say

737
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna have some Hall of Fame career, but clearly

738
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: the body of evidence over the last I don't know,

739
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: month and a half, you would if he was a stock,

740
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Speaker 1: you would buy a lot of Jordan love Stock, You

741
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: really would. I mean, he kind of can do it

742
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: all as a thrower. So Eberflus is on the hot

743
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Speaker 1: seat entering next season. Whether they have Caleb Williams, whether

744
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: they have justin Fields, or whether Peyton Manning comes back

745
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: and starts a quarterback for them. It does not matter

746
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: Matt Eberflus to me if they were to start slow

747
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: like two and four, he get fired in the middle

748
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Speaker 1: of the year. I actually think it complicates, like how

749
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: are they getting the cream of the crop offensive coordinator?

750
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: Now money talks shit walks. But I didn't agree with

751
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: the decision. There were too many good coaching opportunities to upgrade. Hell,

752
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: you could have your own division. You don't think Ben

753
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: Johnson would have been interested in drafting the number one

754
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: overall quarterback and with a team that has some infrastructure

755
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: of talent with DJ Moore, some young offensive linemen, some

756
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: young defensive players. So I disagree with the decision to

757
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: bring him back. And I'm not one to call for

758
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: a guy's job. And I don't think he's you know,

759
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm not acting like he's some complete failure. He proved

760
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: this year as a defensive mind pretty solid, but there's

761
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: a quarterback coach league, and I don't know. I don't

762
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,479
Speaker 1: see it. To me, Justin Fields is gone. I would

763
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 1: bet thousands of dollars right now that Justin Fields will

764
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: be traded now. It's to me, it's hard to gauge

765
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: the market. If you told me they got a fourth form,

766
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: if you told me they got a second, I can

767
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: believe it. All the desperation you think he'll get a

768
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: better pick, but he's going into year four. You know,

769
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: contracts end and then you have to decide on what

770
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: you want to do. It's why the Miami Dolphins find

771
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: themselves in a tough situation. Two US better in fields,

772
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: but in terms of like what do you do with

773
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 1: this contract? So you know it was officially Caleb Williams

774
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: declared for the draft on Monday. He's going to be

775
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick and he's going to be

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Speaker 1: on the Shagle Bears Packers fan here. Love the content

777
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: question for the back, how do you define NFL Executive

778
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: of the Year. Haven't heard much talk about Gutikins in consideration,

779
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: despite several factors that i'd expect would warrant at least

780
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: including him in the discussion. Love is looking like a

781
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: future franchise quarterback, But does the fact that he was

782
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 1: drafted a few years ago not really help the case

783
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: for this year? Also, Green Bay didn't really have any

784
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: big free agent signings, but they seem to have hit

785
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: on a lot of draft picks. Are the youngest team

786
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: in over fifty years to make the playoffs. I think

787
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: sometimes with these awards Coach of the Year, Executive of

788
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: the Year, who cares how many coach of the years

789
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Speaker 1: do Belichick and Andy Reid and Pete Carroll as many

790
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: as you think, But how many years has Andy Reid

791
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: been arguably the best coach in the league. Coach of

792
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: the Year is basically just we think you're gonna suck

793
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: and then you're decent, right. Executive of the Year is, yeah,

794
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: we just didn't think you were that good, and you

795
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: made some moves and now you're in the playoffs. So

796
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't get caught up on that. To me, your

797
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: organization has hung their hat on a couple of things.

798
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: You've always got good young offensive mines to be your

799
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Speaker 1: head coach, Holmgren, McCarthy, now Lafloor. You've always had Ron Wolf,

800
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: Ted Thompson and now goot, and you've always had quarterbacks.

801
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: So whether you get the credit or not, who cares

802
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: If I was a Packer fan, even if you end

803
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: up losing by twenty points next week, which they are

804
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: a ten point underdog at you know, San Francisco, and

805
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: Shanahan has beat him multiple times with Aaron Rodgers, so

806
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: it's a tough matchup. Though. This Green Bay team offensively,

807
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: to me feels, you know, pretty complete. Now, they're very dependent,

808
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: like you said, young players, but to me, the future

809
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: is very, very bright if you guys can shore up

810
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: that defense. The best part about what you guys have

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Speaker 1: going for you. And this is McVeigh, this is Kyle,

812
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: this is Andy, your offensive quote unquote mastermind that influences

813
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: the quarterback, is your head coach. It doesn't get any better.

814
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: So yeah, we might have to fire Joe Berry. Now

815
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: that quieted a lot, as he embarrassed Dak Prescott in

816
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: the first half and the game was over going in

817
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: the halftime. But I wouldn't get caught up as much

818
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: about coach and GM of the Year in the consideration,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. He made a decision that was very,

820
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: very difficult, he said. Aaron Rodgers, like I'm gonna trade you.

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of teams would have just

822
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: tried to figure out a way right, And they went

823
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: all in on Jordan Love, And I think this goes

824
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 1: back to when they drafted him. It was not easy

825
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: to do. Most of us called him crazy. You're right there,

826
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: you're a player or two away. What are you doing?

827
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Speaker 1: Why didn't you trade up to get Brandon Au. Well,

828
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: it turns out three or four years later, it wasn't

829
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: just the right decision. It could be a franchise alter.

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00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: It could be a league altering decision. Because if this

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Speaker 1: guy's good and just maintains a level of like fringe

832
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: top ten quarterback play, obviously he's playing better than that.

833
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: Right now. I'm just saying, like, somewhere between seven to ten,

834
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna be in the playoffs all the time. Your

835
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: team's just gonna maintain and sustain winning. If I'm a

836
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: Bears fan or Vikings fan, I'm like, how does this happen?

837
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: How can they do this? Because you say the one

838
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: thing you say about the Detroit Lions Stafford Forever now

839
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: goff like they've had pretty good quarterbacks. They they've had

840
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: solid quarterback play over the last fifteen years. The Bears

841
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: clearly cannot say the same, and the Vikings have always

842
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: kind of been patchwork, right trade for far cousins, but

843
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: it never feels like, oh, this is gonna be the

844
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Speaker 1: guy for a decade. And that's what it feels like

845
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Speaker 1: they have again in Green Bay, which is it's remarkable,

846
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: It really is love the pod Jets fan and season

847
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: ticket holder. Do you blame our multiple decade struggle more

848
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: on the bad roster management or bad coaching? I generally

849
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: think Douglas has made good picks Garrett Wilson and hall

850
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: in Hall, but has whiffed on Beckton and Zach Wilson,

851
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: Oh Breese Hall. I think running solid back is an

852
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: okay plan, but generally curious. I think anytime a team

853
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:39,479
Speaker 1: consistently struggles in football where it's just, you know, every

854
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: five years you should have a season where you win

855
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: ten eleven games, it's usually because poor quarterback play. You

856
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 1: guys have had poor quarterback play in a while, non

857
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: consistency with your coaching staff, and you've had a lot

858
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: of turnover there and clearly the front office slash of

859
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: the owner. And one thing that people in the NFL

860
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: have always told me is like, it's not easy. One

861
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 1: of the reasons Joe Douglas, remember when they were trying

862
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: to hire him and everyone knew they were gonna hire him,

863
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: kind of held out and ended up getting a ton

864
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: of money because people in his corner said, listen, Joe,

865
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: there's a chance that you're one and only shot, and

866
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 1: this is a place you're gonna deal with a guy

867
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: who is not easy to deal with in Woody Johnson.

868
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: So when you do pull the trigger, make sure you

869
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: get as much money as possible because it's difficult. So

870
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 1: I always think it starts at the top and listen,

871
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: Jerry can be tough. But clearly the Cowboys they know

872
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: football players like Woody and those guys have no clue

873
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: about anything when it comes to football besides getting mad

874
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: when you lose, and they always lose. Now it's not

875
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: his fault. Zach Wilson sucks. That's on Joe Douglas. Put

876
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: all his chips in the middle of the table. Number

877
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: two pick on Zach Wilson. Listen, fields got flaws. Imagine

878
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 1: if they had just taken justin fields, they would clearly

879
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: have been a lot better than what they were. They

880
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't have landed, you know, Josh Allen or Mahomes or anything.

881
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: But to me, they are instead of winning seven games

882
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: these last couple of years, maybe they're winning or ten

883
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: because of how talented the roster is and just because

884
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: of his athleticism. Now is he a long term answer, No,

885
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: But they picked the wrong guy, period, point blank, end

886
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: of the story. And they didn't just pick the wrong guy.

887
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: They were adamant about it, and then they kept him

888
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: around this season when they brought in Aaron Rodgers because

889
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: they thought they could salvage him. So instead of cutting

890
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: bait and acknowledging, like sometimes when you buy a stock

891
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: and it's down by half, well, if it's a company

892
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: that's not going to go away like Facebook or you know,

893
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: if Apple or Netflix you know, gets cut in half

894
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: like it did a couple of years ago, it's like, okay,

895
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: I'll ride this out. And there are sometimes when it's

896
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: just like you got to cut your losses like this

897
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: is you can't put the milk back in the carton,

898
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: like this is over, clean it up and move on.

899
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: And they easily could have done that, you know, signed

900
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: just a solid backup behind Rogers and had a more

901
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: credible chance to be competitive, but they didn't because they

902
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: tried to hold on to a draft pick that they

903
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: wanted to believe in and it cost him. It really

904
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 1: did love getting the Rozo State shotouts on your show

905
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: from time to time. What do you think the ideal

906
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: offseason looks like for Green Bay after this playoff run?

907
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: How do we successfully build off the momentum? Well, one

908
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: big picture thing that the Packers have to figure out,

909
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: and this was their downfall a lot of the Rogers years,

910
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: and ultimately it was a big reason that honestly, you

911
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: could say the Packers underachieved at times this year is defense. Defense, defense, defense.

912
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: They can look like Swiss cheese on defense. Well, it's

913
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: like they've invested a ton on that side of the ball.

914
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: They've drafted a bunch of linemen and linebackers high. Obviously,

915
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: Jaira Alexander was a high pick and highly paid. So

916
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: to me, the pressure on the coordinator just because you

917
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: win a playoff game and you know you shut out

918
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: essentially the Bears a couple weeks ago they had what

919
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: seventeen to nine, then they didn't even score ten points.

920
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: Lafleur and Joe Barrier are close friends. That's well documented.

921
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: Is he good enough? Right? Because to me, if you

922
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: get rid of them, there are other good coordinators available, right,

923
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: Like could you hire Wink Martindale? Is he an upgrade

924
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: over Joe Berry? Or just just look around in the NFL? Right?

925
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: I mean would have shocked me if Brandon Staley's their

926
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: next defensive coordinator, As crazy as that sounds, No, it wouldn't.

927
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that. But I do think that the

928
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:22,959
Speaker 1: coordinator change is the easiest place to just have an upgrade. Like, listen,

929
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard for Miami to just dramatically upgrade

930
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: their defensive personnel, but they have an elite coach. So

931
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: if they can just get solid players and stay healthy,

932
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: you know, instead of losing a guy two players a game,

933
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: that they're gonna be okay on defense because Vic Fangios

934
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: a five million dollar coordinator. So I would be in

935
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: the mix for an upgrade there. That would be my

936
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: first line of business. And just because you beat the

937
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: Bears and the Cowboys and let's assume you lose, which

938
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: I'm not just gonna assume. Who knows the playoffs. Maybe

939
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: they're just super hot and maybe Jordan Love is the

940
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: next superstar of the league. But if they lose the

941
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, I don't think that changes the fact

942
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: that Joe Barry's got to go. I'm a Cowboy fan

943
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: that's from Jackson and was wondering what you think about

944
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: trading Dak for another quarterback, kind of like Stafford golf trade. Well,

945
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: this always gets back to until I know the coach

946
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 1: GM with Washington and New England. Now we know Adam

947
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: Peters is there, Now we know Gerrod Mayo is in charge,

948
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 1: you start maybe getting a little clarity of what they're

949
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: gonna do. Until we know the coaching situation. Is Mike

950
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: McCarthy gonna get fired And as of recording this, he

951
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: still has a job. Now. Maybe Jerry didn't want to

952
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: fire him the day because he just took a deep breath,

953
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: wanted to take a step back. Maybe he's waiting till

954
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: Tuesday when there are no games on, to kind of

955
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: own the headlines. I mean, at Jerry's core, he's kind

956
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: of a marketer, right, And if you fired him the day,

957
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: not that it would get lost in the shuffle. I

958
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: mean we would all talk about it, but with the

959
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: two games going on, it's not as powerful as firing

960
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: him on Tuesday or Wednesday, which I would expect him

961
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: to do. Then if he's fired, and I think it's

962
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: fair to assume, you know, Belichick is not just in play.

963
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: To me, he'd feel like the front runner. Is Belichick

964
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: signing Dak Prescott to forty five to fifty million dollars

965
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: a year. I think the answer is no. But like,

966
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: what are the options, Like Jimmy g now sucks, You

967
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: can't you can't bring him in. Who is that Jared

968
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: Goff type player that you could trade for. I have

969
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: to really think about it, but it doesn't really seem

970
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: like it exists. You know. Part of Jared Goff was

971
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: he was a solid player and then had fallen on

972
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: hard times and the Rams were over and let's face it,

973
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: you got to get it. I said this the other night.

974
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: The Lions deserve credit. They had two options. The Niners

975
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: and the Rams both wanted Stafford. Here's two ones and

976
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: our quarterback. And at the time, you assume both ones

977
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: are going to be in similar spots right in the twenties,

978
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: so the offers were very similar. Well, do you want

979
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,959
Speaker 1: the twenty five million dollars Jimmy Garoppolo or the twenty

980
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: five million dollar Jared Goff and because Brad Holmes, but

981
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: I actually I forgot his name last night and then

982
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: that viral video of him screaming in the elevator. It's like, oh, yeah,

983
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: Brad Holmes, he kind of had a brain fart. Chose

984
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: the right guy because Jared Goff is a better player

985
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: than Jimmy Garoppolo, especially today obviously, So I just don't

986
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: know if, like, who's Jared Goff. Who's Jared Goff? I

987
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: don't know if he exists. I think that was a

988
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: pretty unique scenario. But if I could do that type move.

989
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: Part of the power of Jared Goff. He's made twenty

990
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: five million dollars a year for the last three years,

991
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: and he's scheduled to make twenty five million dollars a

992
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: year this upcoming season. I think his exact numbers like

993
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: twenty six How do you beat that? Like, I mean,

994
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: he's playing more like a forty million dollar guy and

995
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: he's making fifteen million dollars less. So it allows you

996
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: to build the team. Like to me, ideally, can you

997
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: give him like a three year, one hundred million dollar extension?

998
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: Do something like that? Because to me, Dak wants one

999
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty hundred and ninety million dollars and good guy,

1000
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: high character, solid regular season player, but there is a

1001
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: James Harden playoff element to him. They're just this three

1002
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: straight years, five interceptions total in the playoff games. I

1003
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: can't win like that question. This is shocking Green Bay Dallas.

1004
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: I really think sometimes I think the Dallas conversation, you know,

1005
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: can be a little manipulated because it's the Dallas Cowboys

1006
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: and they're like the New York Yankees or the LA Lakers.

1007
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 1: And then there's what happened on Sunday, which I've had

1008
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: what twenty four hours to think about. That's one of

1009
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: the craziest playoff games I think I've ever seen. It

1010
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: was just like is this really happening? Kind of like

1011
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: when the Titans ended Brady's career that wasn't necessarily a blowout.

1012
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: I think it might have turned at the end because

1013
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: Tom threw a pick six, but it got to the

1014
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: point where like, is this really gonna happen? The difference

1015
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 1: was it was just they were pounding of touchdown, touchdown, touchdown,

1016
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: pick six. So does it look worse for McCarthy or

1017
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers You know, the crazy thing about Mike is

1018
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: three straight years twelve wins. Three straight years of twelve wins.

1019
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: They've won the division of two of those three years,

1020
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: and they've hosted a playoff game. Now in twenty twenty

1021
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: one and twenty twenty three in the first round. They

1022
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: lost them both two home playoff game losses in the

1023
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: first round. That's pretty unacceptable because the one thing I'll

1024
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: say for Aaron Rodgers is like, how do you really

1025
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: judge him? This year? He tore his achilles five plays

1026
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: into the season. Now, would it have gone well? I

1027
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: would say probably not as well as I thought. I mean, shit,

1028
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: I picked the Jets to win the division. Would the

1029
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: Jets have won the division with a healthy Aaron Rodgers?

1030
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: Probably not right, probably not. Would they have won ten games?

1031
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: You think if he'd stayed healthy the whole time? But

1032
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: w what do you have stayed healthy? Their old lion

1033
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: was bad. All their quarterbacks were getting hurt. He might

1034
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: have inevitably got hurt. He's been hurt before, broken collar

1035
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: bone and concussion. Who knows. He was sitting duck and

1036
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 1: he can't move like he once could. So McCarthy's season

1037
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: was worse because of the way it ended in the playoff, Like,

1038
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: it doesn't get any worse than that. You could argue

1039
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was just like you know, incomplete. But I

1040
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: do think he's gonna be heavily judged next year, which

1041
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard. First off, big fan, this is Adam.

1042
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: I'm not a conspiracy theorist. Anytime you say I'm not

1043
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: a conspiracy theorist, I know you're gonna come in with

1044
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: a good one. Just interested if this bit of history

1045
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: exists or not. Has any team ever attempted to bug

1046
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: the opposing team's coordinator box. I feel like this is

1047
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: a ridiculous question. But curious is if it has ever

1048
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: happened even been a concern of visiting teams. Well, if

1049
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: you've studied the Patriots, it's a major concern for the Patriots.

1050
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: For opposing teams during the Belichick Brady era, teams always

1051
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 1: thought the away visiting locker room was bugged. They were

1052
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: always very uneasy about headsets going off. Now, obviously, I

1053
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: mean I don't I've never heard of it. I'm sure

1054
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: if you got some of these guys who have been

1055
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 1: in the league a long time, you know, and Andy

1056
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: reid Vic Fangio guys that are like thirty forty year

1057
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 1: lifers trying to think of I mean, they're countless position

1058
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: coaches who have been in the league for twenty five

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00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: thirty years. They have stories, they'd have stories. It's hard

1060
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: to throw that out though, if you don't have evidence.

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00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: So a lot of it is just paranoia, which is

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00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: a huge part of football, because a huge part of

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00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: football is paranoia over your information getting stolen, which has

1064
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: definitely happened over the years. Build of the Cowboys. Realistically,

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00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,479
Speaker 1: if they fire McCarthy, I really think if they fire

1066
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: McCarthy now that it looks like Harbo's, you know, not

1067
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: the the LA Chargers head coach, feels like an upset,

1068
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: that feels like everything is trending that way. I think

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00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: there are two made options for the Cowboys. Do they

1070
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: try to get a long term answer and go Mike Rabel,

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00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: bring him Arthur Smith and kind of add an element

1072
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: of toughness to their team, or do they go a

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00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: little more short term. I mean, I'm not a million

1074
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Speaker 1: text threads. Just offer Bill Belichick three years seventy five

1075
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: million dollars, right, because you're not going to offer him

1076
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: some six year deal. He's seventy two years old, right,

1077
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: So Bill Belichick is not. This isn't a ten year fix,

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00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: This isn't a five year fix. Probably, So I think

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Speaker 1: I hope Belichick goes there. That's the most interesting. But

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00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: if I was Jerry and Steven, or definitely Steven influencing Jerry,

1081
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: maybe you want to think big picture. But I think

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00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: those are the two names. They're not hiring a coordinator.

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00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: They're gonna hire a guy with a resume and doesn't

1084
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: feel like Harbaugh's an option there. So I think Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's talked about the growing relationship him and Jerry have had,

1086
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: and to me, Vrabel makes a little sense. Kind of

1087
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: a big name, kind of Parcelsian type guy, a parcels guy,

1088
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: a Belichick guy, a tough guy, old school but also

1089
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: new school in the sense of, you know, he's been

1090
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: coaching in this modern day NFL. So I my guess

1091
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: is when and if? I guess if and when and

1092
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: what feels inevitable when Mike is relieved of his duties

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00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: this week that it's one of those two guys I

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00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: would put. The leader in the clubhouse is Belichick. And

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00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: if you told me Jerry Jones had passed away two

1096
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: years ago and Steven Jones was in charge, I'd be like, yeah,

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00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: I think they'd be more inclined to hire Mike Vrabel

1098
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: because that's the guy you could see as like a

1099
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: ten year head coach, But because Jerry over eighty years

1100
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: old and Belichick would give I mean, he would just

1101
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: make them the number one story in the NFL. Constantly,

1102
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: as a Packer fan, who should the Packers go after

1103
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: for the defensive coordinator? Clearly Winks the name that came

1104
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: to my mind, But just think about some of the

1105
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: teams that have fired coaches. Right, Do the Raiders have

1106
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: anyone you'd be interested in? Patrick Graham's their defensive coordinator? Chargers,

1107
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley. You're gonna think I'm crazy, Sean McVay. They're

1108
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: all represented by the same agent, Richmond Flowers. Keep an

1109
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: eye on that. It's I'm not saying that to make

1110
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: fun of you. Guys like Brandon Staley to the Packers.

1111
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: I've seen them like Packers Twitter and Packers Reddit, like

1112
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: they know it's definitely on the table. So I would

1113
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,439
Speaker 1: say guys like that, I would hire a wink over

1114
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley. That's for sure, would it make sense for

1115
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: Miami to trade Tua to an NFC team. I think

1116
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: Tua would be a better fit at the Falcons or Commanders,

1117
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: And I think it would be interesting to see McDaniel

1118
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: draft and develop a quarterback. Well, I think you would

1119
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: make some sense for the Falcons right Dome team warm

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Speaker 1: Weather Division, Saints, Planet Dome. Carolina's not a frigid place.

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Speaker 1: And who else am I missing? Carolina? New Orleans, Atlanta?

1122
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: I always screwed this up. What team am I missing here? Oh?

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Speaker 1: In Tampa? So you're talking about warm weather teams? Come

1124
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: on't like that's a cold division one. They play outdoors.

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01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: It's cold Philly, New York. So I don't think the

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01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: Commanders won with a second overall pick. Atlanta makes some sense.

1127
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: Maybe the Cowboys right do a little dak for Tua.

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Speaker 1: We talked about player for player. I wouldn't do that

1129
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: if I was the Cowboys, but it makes some sense.

1130
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: But like I said, the divisions, you still got to

1131
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: go on the road in Washington, on the road in Philly,

1132
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: on the road in New York. Okay, last question, with

1133
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: all the great head coaches stepping down, why don't they

1134
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: get into show business. They're already beloved by people. I'd

1135
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: pay to Cepete Carroll in comedy, action thriller, tune in

1136
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: to Bill and Saban on a pod chopping it up.

1137
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: Because these guys are football coaches, man. Football is what

1138
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: gives them their juice. All these guys have been making

1139
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: they all have fifty one hundred million dollars in the bank.

1140
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: Money doesn't drive them in a weird way. Fame. I mean,

1141
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: they have huge egos, but their fame is correlated to football.

1142
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: It's what they've mastered in theory. I don't know, Pete,

1143
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: their defense been bad, But like when you spend your

1144
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: entire life figuring out how to do something at the

1145
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: highest level, it's hard to pivot in your seventies. It

1146
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: really is. It's easier if you're Jimmy Johnson. You retire,

1147
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: you go to TV for twenty years, right you fish

1148
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: in Florida. I think it's harder for some of the

1149
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: older guys in their seventies, Like they're football coaches. Saban's

1150
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: gonna go to TV. Saban's gonna replace I would guess

1151
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: Lee Corso, who's listen, absolute legend. They should not have

1152
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: been rolling him out on TV the last couple of years,

1153
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: so I think Nick Saban will go there, him, McAfee,

1154
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: Herbstreet will be the group. To me, Pete Carroll wants

1155
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,959
Speaker 1: to coach. Pete Carroll thinks he's a good coach. Trader

1156
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson won eighteen games the next two years, and

1157
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick definitely wants to coach, So it would be cool,

1158
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: Like it'd be awesome to see Belichick on TV, but

1159
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: he's not gonna do it. He's just he's just not

1160
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: gonna do it. So I hear what you're saying. I'd

1161
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 1: be awesome to hear these guys on the podcast, but

1162
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: they're just that's just not what they're gonna do. The

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Speaker 1: volume