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Speaker 1: Drive bringing you today's show. Steve headed back after practice

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Speaker 1: there's this Steve from Washington wide receiver Curtis Samuel, who

426
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Speaker 1: signed with the club as a free agent for it

427
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Speaker 1: was last offseason he signed as a free agent, so

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Speaker 1: this is a second season with the Commanders. Now he

429
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Speaker 1: was limited to five games last year due to injury,

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Speaker 1: and now the start of this year's training camp, he

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Speaker 1: is not inspiring a whole much, a whole lot of confidence.

432
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Speaker 1: He was working on a field off to the side

433
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Speaker 1: earlier this week, and that was being done because there

434
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Speaker 1: was some concern, according to coach Rivera, as to his

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Speaker 1: overall football conditioning and shape. After reporting to camp, Samuel's

436
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Speaker 1: hamstrings and lower back were very tight, and they believe

437
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Speaker 1: it is due to the fact that he did not

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Speaker 1: come into camp in top shape, like the kind of

439
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Speaker 1: soreness and tightness he was developing, according to their strength

440
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Speaker 1: and conditioning staff Athletic training staff, was due more to

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Speaker 1: a lack of fitness than it was, you know, just

442
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Speaker 1: soft tissue injury, rigors of the game stuff. And there

443
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Speaker 1: were times where he had to pull himself out of

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Speaker 1: team drills. So I don't know if it's because he

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Speaker 1: was winded or because he felt he was going to

446
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Speaker 1: pull something. But that's a little troubling. Yeah, that's I

447
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: think that's maybe given money the wrong guy, Maybe a

448
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: guy has checked out, he signed the big deal and

449
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Speaker 1: sat down and didn't put it in take it, took

450
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Speaker 1: it out of gear Um, there's no excuse for not

451
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Speaker 1: showing up in shape. None. And if that's the case, yeah,

452
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Speaker 1: you're you're on the hook because that's that's an that's

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Speaker 1: a dead Giveay. I just don't understand why you. I mean,

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Speaker 1: first of all, you're a professional athlete. You're getting paid

455
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Speaker 1: oodles of money and coming in shape. Like, do you know,

456
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Speaker 1: I gotta believe that a professional athlete knows how much

457
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Speaker 1: harder they make their job if they don't come to

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Speaker 1: training camp in shape, Like do you know the hill

459
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Speaker 1: you gotta climb? Even with a talented guy like Kurtis Samuel, Like,

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Speaker 1: why do they do that to themselves? Do you have

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Speaker 1: any explanation for that? No? I you know you can.

462
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Speaker 1: You can project to anything you want onto these guys,

463
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Speaker 1: and you know none of it will be one hundred

464
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: percent right because they're each they each have their own problems,

465
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Speaker 1: their own challenges, and life's hard for them in different ways.

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Speaker 1: It's hard that it's hard for us, but you can

467
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Speaker 1: make generalizations about it. There's the guy showed up out

468
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Speaker 1: of shape. He's got a lot of money and they

469
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Speaker 1: paid it to him, and whatever's guaranteed. I don't know

470
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Speaker 1: the terms of his contract I don't have in front

471
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Speaker 1: of me. But he's also playing for one of the

472
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Speaker 1: most notoriously toxic work environments in the National Football League.

473
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Speaker 1: Despite what you hear about what's going on in Deshaun Waston, Cleveland,

474
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Speaker 1: what's going on in Miami, all the stuff that's that,

475
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Speaker 1: the horror stories we hear about, the way it was

476
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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville last year, and Urban Meyer all Washington blows

477
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: them all away. And it's hard, and some guys find

478
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Speaker 1: it really difficult to invest, even if it means their

479
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Speaker 1: own career, to invest the sacrifice physically, the discomfort of

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Speaker 1: training certainly, the risk of playing hard and in practice

481
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: and doing all that stuff. They find it almost impossible

482
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: to invest one hundred percentage of that stuff when they're

483
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Speaker 1: doing it for something they for a team that they

484
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Speaker 1: don't respect. There could be a little of that, not

485
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Speaker 1: only in this guy, but the entire roster. And that's

486
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Speaker 1: what that's what Ron Riverez is working against. He's trying to,

487
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Speaker 1: you know, be the guy that makes it worth it

488
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Speaker 1: for these guys, these players. It's a big job. It's

489
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Speaker 1: a huge job. We've seen Sean McDermott do it here.

490
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Speaker 1: But he gets a lot of help. Right, And I've

491
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Speaker 1: said it time and time again, Brownie, that this game

492
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Speaker 1: is different than most other sports in that the physical

493
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Speaker 1: sacrifice and the pain and the discomfort of actually even

494
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Speaker 1: playing the sport is a big deterrent to investing all

495
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Speaker 1: the time, all that every all the time, because it

496
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Speaker 1: just wears you out and it's too it hurts too bad,

497
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Speaker 1: and it's just too enticing to shut it off. And

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Speaker 1: that's what the that's what you run into when the

499
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Speaker 1: guy signs a big contract. It's just too enticing to say, Man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to do this anymore.

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00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: That's why I retired. That's why. That's why everybody retires.

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Speaker 1: That's why everybody retires. Yeah, Um, a lot of guys

503
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: get kicked out before they're to that point. But when

504
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: you see a guy retire, is you know, I just

505
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: can't do it. I can't do it. And that's the

506
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,479
Speaker 1: reason it. You know, you gotta you gotta hurt just

507
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: to get ready to play, to train, and you get

508
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: these guys coming in out of shape, they're just they're

509
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: what is waiting for them in that locker room and

510
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: in that field in this season coming up is not

511
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Speaker 1: worth it, which I think the regular Joe is fine.

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Speaker 1: Hard to believe, but sure, I get it. It's certainly.

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Speaker 1: But actually when you're if you're blessed with that kind

514
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Speaker 1: of But we've seen, you've seen and we've seen it.

515
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Speaker 1: You've seen it a thousand times, and it'll keep it.

516
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Speaker 1: I say a thousand times. You've seen it so often.

517
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Speaker 1: I'm not It's it's real, and it's real. That is

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Speaker 1: NFL News and Notes want to have some fun with

519
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: you today here on the show though, since it is

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Speaker 1: autograph season at training camp, we wanted to ask you

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Speaker 1: what is the craziest autograph scene you have ever witnessed.

522
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: Surely if you've been out to Bill's training camp, you've

523
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Speaker 1: witnessed the pied Piper entourage like situation that kind of

524
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: follows Josh Allen around training camp after practice is over.

525
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: Picture the Pope dressed as Elvis. Yeah, you know that's

526
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Speaker 1: what Josh is like the pipe pipers are going. I mean,

527
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Speaker 1: it is and we've seen others over the years, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that Steve has his shares of autograph stories

529
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Speaker 1: that we'll get into a little bit later on the show,

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Speaker 1: but we want to know from you the craziest autograph

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Speaker 1: scene you've ever witnessed, maybe some crazy request that you

532
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Speaker 1: saw honored over there. And it doesn't just have to

533
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: be sports. It could be like at a concert somewhere,

534
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Speaker 1: somebody backstage, whatever. We're taking any and all comers in

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Speaker 1: this area and we want some of the wildest stories.

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Speaker 1: You've got, craziest autograph scene you have ever witnessed? Let

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Speaker 1: us know what it is at eight fifty one, eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two, five fifty or on the tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: at one Bills Live. Steve and I back with more.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned, all right, welcome back to one Bills Live,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, having a little bit

542
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Speaker 1: of fun with you on what it amounts to an

543
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: off day from training camp. It is autograph season for

544
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Speaker 1: those of you going to training camp seeking to get

545
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Speaker 1: some autographs, especially for the kiddos out there at Saint

546
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Speaker 1: John Fisher University. What is the craziest autograph scene you

547
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Speaker 1: have ever witnessed? That is the question eight oh three

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Speaker 1: five fifty one eighty five fifty two, five fifty and

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Speaker 1: we go to the phones here and leading us off

550
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Speaker 1: today is Casey on a sale. What do you have

551
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Speaker 1: for US, Casey, you're on one Bill's Live. Hey, guys,

552
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: thank you. First of all, Steve Tasker, you should be

553
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. You're an awesome player. My

554
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: personal opinion, craziest autograph scene I ever saw was at

555
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: a National Scouting event. They Great Service Group. They elect

556
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: youth officers every year from around the United States, and

557
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: hundreds of people would line up to have these youth

558
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: officers sign a momento for them. They're all into service,

559
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: they're all into dedication. Book boy, When you see one

560
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: eighteen year old young man or woman in front and

561
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: there is a line of six hundred to a thousand

562
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Speaker 1: people waiting for their autograph, and they range in age

563
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: from you know, thirteen year old kids all the way

564
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Speaker 1: up to you know, seventy year old men and women,

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Speaker 1: You're like, wow, this is crazy. So it's intense a

566
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Speaker 1: good group of people, but they're awfully intense. Wow. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I was unaware of that, were you? Yeah? I didn't

568
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: know anything about that. Yeah, that's interesting. Case, thanks for

569
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Speaker 1: the call. We move along. We go to TJ. What

570
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Speaker 1: do you got for his TJ? Yes, the year we

571
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: uh drafted Willis mcgae. He did a signing at the

572
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Speaker 1: gallery of Mall, and it wasn't that big of like

573
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: crowd or anything, but it was intense in one way

574
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Speaker 1: because my cousin decided to print out a picture of

575
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Speaker 1: the National Championship game the exact moment when Willis's knee

576
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Speaker 1: was snaps and asked him to sign it on the leg.

577
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Willis, like his eyes just went like

578
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: crazy for a second. Then he just laughed and he

579
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: actually signed it. And then fast forward to years later

580
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: at he retired, he actually brought it up in the

581
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: podcast and that we're laughing about it. Then I think

582
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Speaker 1: that sounds like a crazy autograph story for Willis more

583
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: than it is for your buddy there. So I give

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Speaker 1: you gotta have some stones. Can you sign the most

585
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: horrific moment in your athletic career? Yeah, that's yeah. He

586
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: handed him that picture. I looked at my cousin like, dude,

587
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: if he could stands up and hits you, I don't

588
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: know what to tell you, like like I do not

589
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: have your back on this one. Yeah, I'm out of here. Yeah,

590
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: it was exactly what I said. I was like, oh man,

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Speaker 1: why didn't I go first? Oh my gosh, you had

592
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: to ask him to sign after Yeah. Oh geez, yeah,

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00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: that's that is that is not good. Uh, thanks for

594
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: the call, TJ. I can't imagine doing that. Why would you?

595
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Speaker 1: Why would you bring up the worst moment in a

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00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: player's career and ask them, Hey, you want you want

597
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: to put your John Hancock on this horrific moment in

598
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: your career'll be great. And I'll tell you what that

599
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: was a bad moment? Are you talking? Oh my gosh,

600
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: it's kin to the Joe Eisman Alex Smith injury. Yeah, yeah,

601
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: it was bad. Uh. Your craziest autograph scene that you've

602
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: ever witnessed. Maybe it was a crazy request, maybe it

603
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 1: was someone acting like a jack wagon. Whatever it is,

604
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: let us know, we'd like to hear it. At eight

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00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: oh three, five fifty we go to Dan in Pennsylvania. Uh,

606
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: let's get there, Dan. What do you have for us?

607
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Speaker 1: You're all one? Bill's Live. Hey guys, how are you today? Good?

608
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: Let's I'm gonna date myself here a little bit. Anyway

609
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: to back in the Buffalo Braves days, being my buddy

610
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: used to go to quite a buck bit of games

611
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: at the Odd, the Old Odd, and uh, you know,

612
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: we'd take the Elmwood Bus anyway, I would We would

613
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: always wait until after the games to get the autographs

614
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: of the players. We already had all the Braves players.

615
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: So Calivin Murphy was in town one night and we

616
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: waited buy the locker room there and he was late

617
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: coming out and the security guards were yelling the dogs

618
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: are coming, and we ended up getting locked in the

619
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Speaker 1: ogg with Calvin Murphy and his wife running from the

620
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: dogs that we could hear barking. We don't know to

621
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: this day, we'd never know if they were chained up

622
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: with the security guard, but they were barking. We hit

623
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: a few doors with chains on them, couldn't get out,

624
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: and we finally found one. I believe it was Mainstrick.

625
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: I remember the exact exit, but yeah, we got out

626
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: with the dogs on our tail, with Calvin Murphy and

627
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: his wife. It was a pretty wild day. Yeah, I

628
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't I wouldn't like that situation for one reason and

629
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Speaker 1: one reason only. You're probably not beating Calvin Murphy in

630
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: a race, which means you're the one that's probably gonna

631
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: get caught by a dog if you don't find the

632
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: open door. It was a definitely an experience I'll never forget.

633
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: Most importantly though, that you get the autograph. I did

634
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: get the autographs, Okay, I did, but that was fifty

635
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: years ago, so I don't know where it. All Right,

636
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: that's a good one, Dan, I like that. Can you

637
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: imagine that? Yeah, got Calvin Murphy and his wife, you know,

638
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: NBA star Calvin Murphy. Yeah, yeah, and you and a

639
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: buddy are trying to frantically find an open door so

640
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: you don't get locked in the odd for the night.

641
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 1: How do they leave Calvin Murphy there? Maybe he decided

642
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: he was going to hang around in town for a

643
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: day or two or something after the game. Has been

644
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: a different world back then because who he was playing for? Houston?

645
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: I think, yeah he didn't. Yeah, yeah, he'd played for

646
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: Houston most of his if not all of his career.

647
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: That's right, crazy, Like, how do you forget Calvin Murphy? Yeah?

648
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: See that that was a different time because you never

649
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: have these days. There's always a security guy with the

650
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: guy right. Well, true, but I'm just thinking, like even

651
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: the bus back to the hotel or the airport whatever, like,

652
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: no that happened, you know, if he was missing, I

653
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: would like to say, let me well, let me just

654
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: tell you this. On Marv's birthday today, we were in

655
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: Saint Louis playing the rams. Okay, we had like four

656
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: or five buses, you know, everybody's on We're kind of waiting,

657
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: kind of wait a little bit. Then all of a sudden,

658
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: some you know, thumps on the bus and let's go.

659
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: So we take it, good to go, take off. About

660
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: ten minutes down the road, all the all the buses

661
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: pull over. The police car with light song comes by,

662
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: and out of the police car gets Marv Levy and

663
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: John Butler. You forgot the head coach and the GM.

664
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: It's a little bit of a Yeah, nobody wanted to

665
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: own up to be the guy that pounded on the

666
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: side of the bus and went like this and gave

667
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: him the home gun sign let's go. Nope, no, it

668
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: wasn't me. But yeah, so yeah, I can see how

669
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: somebody a happens because I you know, you think he's

670
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 1: doing it, he thinks you're doing it, and you both

671
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: think somebody else had took care of it, and it

672
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: you know, and the he is locked up with you know,

673
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: and people are stranded inside. That's something I can see that.

674
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: Let's move along. We go to Judd and Buffalo. What

675
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: do you have first? Jed back to Steve when you

676
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: were playing back in the mid nineties. Teddy marsham Brodo

677
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: was my uncle and at the last practice he told

678
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: myself and my daughters to go out back because that's

679
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 1: where the cars were parked. Everybody was coming out back

680
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: to get autographs. So we went out back and patiently

681
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: waited for you all to finish, And the first one

682
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: out was James Lofton with Andre Reid. James stopped and

683
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: signed an autograph for a child and got a picture.

684
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: Andre went and got in the car. James noticed that

685
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: he went and got in the car. I said to everybody,

686
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: if you'll wait one minute, please help me right back

687
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: went over to the car. I'm not sure what he

688
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: said Andre, but Andrea got out of the car and

689
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: James signed autographs, took pictures and said go over and

690
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: get Andrea's autograph also. So James went and gout Andrea

691
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: out of the car and tol him to come sign. Yeah. Yeah.

692
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: Andre would not sign. He was young at that time,

693
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: and for whatever reason U it took a veteran like

694
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: James to tell them what they had to do to

695
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 1: do this. Price, and James stood there and signed every

696
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: autograph and took every picture until everyone was satisfied. No,

697
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: that's nice. Yeah, two, those are two good friends of mine,

698
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: and uh, your story probably brings rings true. James was

699
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: a great mentor for a lot of us, and he

700
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: taught us a lot more than just sign an autographs

701
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: for a group of fans outside the stadium. So, um,

702
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: Andre and I are a lot of us are indebted

703
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: to James for that, and I'm indebted to Andrea for

704
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: a lot of things too. So yeah, it's good to

705
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: two of my good friends. Let's take another one, this

706
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: one from Carl on a seale. What do you have

707
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: for us? Carl, you're on one Bill's Live Afternoon. What

708
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: you got for us? Carl Um? Back in the Bickerham Bills, Um,

709
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: we went to for donate of camp and we were

710
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 1: getting a lot of autographs and we were just about

711
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: to give up for the day when across the field

712
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: we saw mister Wilson with House Ballard and I said

713
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: to the boys, let's go. When we went across the

714
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: field screeching like little girls, mister Wilson, he turned around.

715
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: He was the most accommodating guy. It was unbelievable. We

716
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: almost forgot to be a house. Ballard's autograph, Wow, that's

717
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: a good autograph. Ralph's a good autograph because as as

718
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: prominent as owners are, most of them are not accessible,

719
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean because they you know,

720
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: and even Ralph lived in Detroit most of the most.

721
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: He was very approachable though, I mean, he was a

722
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: very engaging once when he was around, Yes, and I

723
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: got I got a you know, handful of stories that

724
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: you know, you can share. He was he when we

725
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: were going good. He would show up at practices on

726
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: Thursdays of home games because he was doing a coming

727
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: for the game. He come in early and he you know,

728
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: he and uh and he'd come out and even his

729
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: wife Mary would give him trouble. He was always in corduroys,

730
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: you know, a sweater and a sweater and he would

731
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: come out and he'd stand with us and watch practice

732
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: and we'd you know, he was just like one of

733
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: the guys. We we love, we love the guy. And

734
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: we had this thing called the Dollar line, which is

735
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: in order to film. You know, when you're running plays,

736
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: guys have a tendency to stand close. You know, they're

737
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: listening in the huddle, and then they don't move, and

738
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: the guys move up, they take the snap, and the

739
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: rest of the team who's watching starts to creep in

740
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: and get closer and closer until you're kind of in

741
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: the way. Sometimes. So we had this thing called the

742
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: Dollar line, which was like more than ten years, like

743
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: fourteen yards away from the line of scrimmage. It was

744
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: a straight line. It's a yard line across and you know,

745
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: you're the owner, you're over the line. You're that's a dollar.

746
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: You have to find find him a dollar for being

747
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: over the line. Of course, I you know, I was

748
00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: never one of those guys that called him on it,

749
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: but still it was a great guy and he would

750
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: come in and yeah, he was very approachable, very approachable.

751
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: I think he really enjoyed those teams. We have to

752
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: take a break here, but we do want to hear

753
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: more of your crazy autograph stories that you have witnessed

754
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: or been a part of yourself. So feel free to

755
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: give us a call eight o three oh five fifty

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00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty, or hit

757
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: us up on the tweet sheet if you don't have

758
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: time to hang around on hold but we're happy to

759
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 1: take any and all comers. We'll tell you next there

760
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: are certain autograph seekers who work outside the normal confines

761
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: of autograph decorum. Will tell you the categories they fall into.

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00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: Next here on One Bills Live, presented by Collot to help,

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00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: it's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One

764
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you who told

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00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: you before the break? Autograph seekers? Most people operate, you know,

766
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: in good harmony with one another. You're all trying to

767
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: get the same thing. Some of you might get lucky,

768
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: some of you might be unlucky because they can't always

769
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: sign for everybody in an allotted amount of time. Then

770
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: there are those kinds of autograph seekers, Steve, who work

771
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: outside the normal confines of autograph decorum, and we have

772
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: dropped them into four specific categories, the first of which,

773
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: Steve is the guilt tripper. Okay, this is the person

774
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: who yells to a player, I drove twelve hundred miles

775
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: to this training camp and you're not gonna sign for me.

776
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: You know, we hear that every once in a while.

777
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm glad we haven't heard it at Bill's training camp.

778
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: So that's one. The you know, the person that tries

779
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: to guilt the player, you know whatever, the celebrity into

780
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: signing for them. Doesn't usually work. Second, the screamer, the

781
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: person who just thinks by shouting louder, repeatedly, the same

782
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: thing louder than everybody else, they will be the one

783
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: singled out by the celebrity or player and inevitably get

784
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: their items signed. The biggest to be the biggest annoyance. Yeah,

785
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: in order to have this celebrity. Is that worse than

786
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: the guilt tripper? Just someone who is incessantly and repeatedly loud. Yeah,

787
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: because yes, okay, I think it's more successful the guilt trippers,

788
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: like everybody's you know, yeah, you're not going to sign

789
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: for my six year old? What's wrong with you? Do

790
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: you not care about? It depends on the guilt You

791
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: gotta depends you gotta strike the right chord. See, that's

792
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: the annoyance. You can be annoying as annoying as you

793
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 1: want from one hundred yards away. Or yes, if you're

794
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: loud enough, so they're more successful. I think a higher

795
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: percentage of the annoyer annoyances. Or then then there is

796
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: the scammer Steve, this is really the sneakiest of all

797
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: of the outside the confines of autograph decorum autograph seekers.

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00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: My son actually witnessed this one and related to me

799
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: a dude had a garbage bag full of many helmets.

800
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: He was handing one with a sharpie marker to a

801
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: kid and then another kid, and I know he had

802
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: twenty kids that he had effectively mobilized with many helmets

803
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: and sharpie markers. He tell them, if you get me

804
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 1: an autograph from a player, I'll give you five dollars.

805
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: And it worked. Oh yeah, you had a garbage bag

806
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: full of them. I don't like that. That rubs me

807
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: the wrong way. Yeah to me, I get it that. Yeah.

808
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 1: To me, that's the most disingenuous because you know, it's

809
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: obviously to profit off the guy's signature. It's it's easier.

810
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: You know, I've signed one or two autographs. It's easier

811
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: to sign. And I know this too. I've signed very nice,

812
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 1: one of a kind pieces that were that I was like, wow,

813
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: this is nice. Yeah, so, and then I've also signed

814
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: gum rap Well that was my next category and final category,

815
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: the weird request sign this body part. Do you know

816
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: what we've seen a training camp this year sign my baby, right,

817
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: babies have become the soup Djur of autograph seekers. Seems

818
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: like I signed a baby or two. Yeah, you remember,

819
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: Like what is is gum rapper? Though at the top

820
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: of the list of weird things. Well, I mean you're

821
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: what are you? That's someone that probably saw you by surprise.

822
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, let's get an autograph from Steve And

823
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: all they have on them is a gum rapper that's

824
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: going right on the mantel too. I'm sure they're gonna

825
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 1: put are gonna frame this gum right, that gum rapper

826
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: is gonna catch their chewed gum and go in the garbage. Yeah,

827
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: in about ten minutes, Like this is the best you

828
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: can do that. It just seems like a waste. You know,

829
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: nobody's can't to mention it's got to be pretty challenging

830
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: to fit an autograph on a gum rapper. Yeah. The

831
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: most frustrating real estate I'll tell you what a frustrating

832
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: thing is when you're signing for somebody. They give you

833
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: something and pen and he goes and the pen doesn't work,

834
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: or or it half works, or it's kind of and

835
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: the you can't read it because it's that happens a lot.

836
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen the body part signing stuff. I

837
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: just saw social media this week. A kid at Broncos

838
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: training camp had Russell Wilson. He asked, Russell Wilson signed

839
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: my leg and he's gonna have a tattooed and now

840
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have it tattooed onto my leg. So he obliged.

841
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 1: I can't remember what he said, something like you said

842
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: good luck, you know, wrote his name Let's ride, you know,

843
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, and he tatted it on his leg.

844
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: He went right to the tattoo, polor get it. That's

845
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: that's commitment. That's that's a permanent commitment. That's asking to

846
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: be committed for a very painful removal if he ever

847
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: decides to take it off. If Russell flops, that's like

848
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: a super Bowl. That's like a super Bowl twenty twenty two. Exactly, yeah, exactly,

849
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: Boston Celtics. And I admire the commitment, you know, you

850
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 1: gotta admire the sellout nature of it, but you know, yeah,

851
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: it'd be easier just to put a bandage over it

852
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: and wait until it actually happens and then get it tatted,

853
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: you know, or just fill in the last number. You know,

854
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: at least at least leave yourself a decade in which

855
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: too yeah right, you know, two zero, and then you know,

856
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: give yourself a hundred years to work with exactly tat

857
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: those other two numbers. It's all done. I just need

858
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: two more numbers. Guys, make it happen. But you're right

859
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: there there, you can. You can the guilt tripper, the

860
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: guy who is the same as the annoyance because one

861
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: you sooner or later, the annoying person turns into a

862
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: guilt tripper because if you don't right, because if you

863
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: don't sign for him, they realize that they've been an

864
00:49:54,160 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: enormous an enormous donkey, and now they're gonna, you know,

865
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: they're gonna make you pay for it. Yeah, So we

866
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: have to take a break here. We are going to

867
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: take more of your phone calls. On the other side, though,

868
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: your craziest autograph scenes that you've ever witnessed, autograph stories,

869
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 1: we're taking them all here in the spirit of training

870
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: camp at his autograph season. So we'll take more of

871
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: your phone calls next here on one Bill's Live, presented

872
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 1: by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a Steve

873
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: Tasker who has been all over the fields. Kind of unique.

874
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role player for you

875
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: state Steve a blimp. We're not even in the strated

876
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: beer of normalcy. All right, welcome to our number two

877
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasking. We do here on a Wednesday.

878
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: We'll be back at training camp on Thursday, live from

879
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,479
Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher University. Today's walkthrough was closed to the media,

880
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: no media availabilities. Who were back in our studios at

881
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: one Bill's Drive. Coming up in about fifteen minutes, we'll

882
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: be joined by OutKick senior NFL writer Armando Salguero. Get

883
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: his thoughts on the punishments levied against the Dolphins in

884
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: the wake of that investigation coming to a conclusion found

885
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: guilty of tampering, not so much for tanking. And we'll

886
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: get the four one one from Armando, who for a

887
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: long time was the Dolphins columnist for the Miami Herald.

888
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: So look forward to that conversation. He'll have some unfiltered

889
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: opinions about what the Miami Dolphins are in for. He

890
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: was the one who came on our show and said

891
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: that stuff before this all came down. He said, the

892
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: stuff about Tom Brady being approached and offered ownership and

893
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: Sean Payton doing all, he said, that was all one

894
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: hundred percent true. It happened, It happened, and certainly that

895
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: was proven to be correct. But in the meantime, we're

896
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: talking with you about the craziest autograph scene you've ever witnessed.

897
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 1: We've seen some pretty crazy scenes with Josh. I mean,

898
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: he looks like Elvis Presley walking around a training camp

899
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: with the mob scene that follows behind the fence line

900
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 1: wherever he seems to go after practice. So we're asking

901
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: you for the craziest autograph scene you've ever witnessed. So

902
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: back to the phones we go. When we lead off

903
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: with Steve and Rochester, what do you have for a

904
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: Steve Hey, Chris and Steve aoun Just we were opening

905
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: a new store in Rochester. It was our second week.

906
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: It was in year ninety four, and Jim showed up

907
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,479
Speaker 1: to sign autographs. The store was completely full and Jim

908
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: signed every autograph. He stayed in extra two hours and

909
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: then he turned to me and said, would you like

910
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: me to sign autographs for your employees. Sam'll come up

911
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: to your office. It's the biggest compliment I could give

912
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: to anybody that Jimmy stayed that long to sign autographs

913
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: for everybody in the store and plus my employees. Yeah,

914
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: that's pretty cool after two hours, and then employees on

915
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: top of that. It was Jim Jim Yeah, back in

916
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 1: ninety four he said, thanks, Steve, that's a good one.

917
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks get it though, most of them, right, like they

918
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: kind of know. Yeah, some of the coach and the

919
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: GM and even ownership. Sometimes early in the guy's career,

920
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: when he starts to blossom like Josh has, they sit

921
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: him down and say, listen, I know this is a pain,

922
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm worlding it, but it's two and a half weeks

923
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: of training camp. We need you to go the extra

924
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: mile and make us all look good. Yeah, and take

925
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: this on. This is part of what he's done that

926
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: I meant the shoes off after practice and signed on,

927
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,479
Speaker 1: gave him to kids. It didn't have anything to sign.

928
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they definitely did that with Josh

929
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: and they may not have had to, and he may

930
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: not have had to. He's been he's been pretty good.

931
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: He's been great, and he continues to be. We had

932
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: him on the show. But he you can tell too,

933
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: he said, when I don't know if we were on

934
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: the year, I don't know, we weren't, he said, you know,

935
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: he goes, yeah, he goes, it's a lot, it's a lot,

936
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: but he know, you know, he said it in such

937
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 1: a way as like he got that that was part

938
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: of the deal and for the you know, so it's

939
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, it's right. You know, it's because

940
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: they'll break camp a week from tomorrow or a week

941
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: from Friday, maybe yeah, right before their first preseason game,

942
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: and the camp will be back in Buffalo, so they

943
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: got another week of this and like today, there's no

944
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: fans there, so you know, he gets a break from

945
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: it there. So he understands it. All players do von mill.

946
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you can imagine Von Miller's kind of the

947
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: same deal. There's a high demand for his attention as well.

948
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: So these players get it. They've been around it for

949
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: long enough, particularly a guy like Vaughan and uh kind

950
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: of got a grin and Barrett, Yeah, we go to

951
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: Sue in West Seneca, X. What do you have for

952
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 1: a Sue? Well, I have Stephen Chris, I have a

953
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: ridiculous m request for an autograph. Back a long time ago,

954
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: Robert Goulet came to Buffalo and he was making an

955
00:54:53,960 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: appearance at a store near the Broadway Market. Robert, Yeah, Robert, yes, okay.

956
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: And my mother was down there with a friend of hers,

957
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: and she was she loved Robert Goulay, and she was

958
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: so excited. She had just bought a girdle and she

959
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 1: had gotten so excited. When she got up to ask

960
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: him for an autograph, she didn't have any paper in

961
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: her purse, so she asked him to sign the girdle

962
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: and he did, and there was no strange reaction, Sir

963
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: Robert Goulay. Yeah, she just she just bought the girdle

964
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 1: and she didn't have any paper, so she said, would

965
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: you would you sign this girdle? And he did. She

966
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: never wore it. Oh, she wasn't wearing it though, Well

967
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: she wasn't. She had just purchased it, brought it. Okay.

968
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: I still think that might have got a strange look though,

969
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 1: But yes, okay, Robert Goulay signing a girdle. I did

970
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: not expect that one to come down the pike today.

971
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: But thank you Sue for the phone call. That's that's

972
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: a jozy You don't. Yeah, you're not really expecting to

973
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: see a Broadway singer or a you know, popular singer

974
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: who's acted a little bit showing up in Buffalo at

975
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: the Broadway Market. That's just he was kind of He

976
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: was a big deal in the sixth movie Start. He's

977
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: a movie star. Yeah. Yeah, good singer, big voice, big voice.

978
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: The last time he was doing stuff, he was doing

979
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: college basketball ads for ESPN. I remember that, I remember that.

980
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: I remember this. It takes spot, it takes Championship week

981
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: on he is. He was great. Yeah, good stuff. He

982
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: nailed that stuff. Yeah, yeah, he was really good. Uh

983
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: to DJ in Hamburg, we go what he got for

984
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: his DJ? Yeah, gold bills and happy bird to the

985
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: Marv Levy. Anyhow, my wife's best friend went to Vegas

986
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: for a week. He went into one of the casinos

987
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: and he's seen Robert Duvall and he went up to him, said,

988
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,479
Speaker 1: Robert Duvall, I'm a big fan of yours. I watch

989
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: all your movies. I want to know if I can

990
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: get your autograph. His response was, get the f a

991
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: alley here, I'm on a roll. Wow. Where was he

992
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 1: at the craps table? He was on a slot machine.

993
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: He said, f out of here, I'm on a roll

994
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: out here, I'm on a roll here. Yeah great WOWR

995
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: story Yeah wow, okay, yeah that was I'm on a

996
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: hater he had to call you had to tell you. Yeah,

997
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: that's a spicy one, DJ, well done. Wow, I'm on

998
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: a roll? Can you be on a roll on a

999
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: slot machine? How can you be on a roll like?

1000
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you could hit a few times. I get it,

1001
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: but apparently it's possible. He must have been maxing the

1002
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: bed out for sure. Wow, Robert Duval not won any

1003
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: of that. Jeezh Actors. We go to Larry in Lockport next.

1004
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: What do you have for us, Larry? Or one Bill's

1005
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: live there? Uh. Back in the nineteen seventies, we took

1006
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: up family trip to bust and went to Fenway for

1007
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: Buston against Oakland and uh, after the game, somehow he

1008
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: got down the Red Sox locker room and uh, we

1009
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: asked the guy out front about getting an autograph of

1010
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: Carl Yastremski and he said, don't, can't do it. All

1011
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: of a sudden, as young boys came running out and

1012
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: we asked him about it, and he says, yeah, that's

1013
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: my father, because Mike is strinsky. So he took the

1014
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: picture back in the locker room in the security inside said,

1015
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, I guess they changed him out. Like Mike

1016
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: came out to us and said, go around the parking

1017
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: lot and meet us out at the back door. My

1018
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: father autographed the picture for you. So we run out

1019
00:58:54,440 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: for and Carol and Mike both autographs the pictures. Wow,

1020
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: all right, that's a good one. Hey, talk about a

1021
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: kid doing yeoman's work there. I mean, he got he

1022
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,439
Speaker 1: got the stop sign thrown up by security. It's yes,

1023
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: his son. The security is serious at Fenway man h yes,

1024
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: his son. Nice. He gets around, pulls an end around

1025
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: on security. He says, hey, meet us out back in

1026
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: the parking lot. My dad will sign for you. Back there.

1027
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: We got security, you know, coming up the works here. Wow,

1028
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: good job, Mike Yastremski. I'm pretty happy about that. Gotta yeah,

1029
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: you know, tap into the kid helping you out with

1030
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: the dad or the list. And that's a great end

1031
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: because you know, I'll I'll do it with my If

1032
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: my kids give me the okay, I'll do it, you know.

1033
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's the way it is, and most most

1034
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: people are like that, and you know he probably went in.

1035
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, Dad, there's a kid out here. He's

1036
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: looking for your partograph, but security saying, no, what you

1037
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: want to do? Tell him to meet us out in

1038
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: the parking lot, right, and that he probably he was

1039
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: the messenger. So yeah, good on yas for doing that.

1040
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: Uh we take one more here we go to Gary

1041
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: in Tonawanda. What do you got for us? Gary Garry

1042
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: in Grand Island. Sorry, Uh, yeah, I was. I grew

1043
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: up in Niagara Falls and in the late sixties, I

1044
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: think it was the sixty eighth season, the Biases played

1045
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: their home games at High Park Stadium in the Falls,

1046
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: and he used to go to quite a few games,

1047
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: and one game in particular, I was sitting in uh

1048
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: there were box seats right next to the bias of dugout.

1049
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: So the game was going on, and there was a

1050
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: first baseman named Dick Nenn affects his son Head of

1051
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: a good but short career in the majors as a reliever.

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Speaker 1: But I asked, I said, mister Nenn, could you sign

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Speaker 1: my program? He said sure, He says, come on in

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Speaker 1: the dugout, this is why the game is going on.

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01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: I go on, the dugout. I'm at seventh heaven, uh

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01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: not signed my program. And he was also nice enough.

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01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: Uh he uh he told all the other players in

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Speaker 1: the dugout they signed this kids program, and they passed

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Speaker 1: the program around. I got everybody's autograph and uh. The

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Speaker 1: joy was short lived, however, because the fire play killed

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Speaker 1: joy at the halfpenny and came or and said, uh,

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01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: they got league roles for me to be there. But

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Speaker 1: it's a pretty cool memory you've had for like fifty

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01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: four years. Wow, you still have the program? Do you

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01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: still have it? I wish I could say that, uh

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01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: lost a lot of that stuff, but the memory survives.

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01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: And uh that she comport part. Yeah, that's a cool one.

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01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: I like that one. It's not often you get, but sometimes,

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Speaker 1: you know, the kids are the ones that have the ends,

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01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, because the player, the players want to do

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01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: right by the kids, and and it stories like that

1072
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: bring back the kind of the romanticizing of baseball and

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01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: what you know it was for for somebody get back

1074
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: then right for so many years and yeah you have

1075
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: it was the number, it was the thing. It was

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01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: the only thing. It was the only game in town.

1077
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: And you know, you could didn't have TV. It was

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01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: it was like Vince Gully on the radio. That was

1079
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: your lifeline to sports and the team, and going to

1080
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: the games was an event for everybody. You know. You

1081
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: nobody went to all the games. You went to one

1082
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: or two games a year, you know, And and it

1083
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: was a different world back then. I had, you know,

1084
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: the old I had a gentleman, an older guy than me.

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01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 1: You know, you talk about the romance of the game,

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01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: he goes, I my grandfather told me time and time

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01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: again during my life. He was behind the plate when

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01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: Babe Ruth called his shot. Wow. And he says, he

1089
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: absolutely called his shot. He says, you think about he goes,

1090
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: because his grandfather said, it ain't like it is today.

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01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: It was quiet. You could hear him talking. There was

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01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: no music, there was no highlights on the scoreboard. It

1093
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: was quiet. It was a game. You know, people would talk.

1094
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: He goes, he absolutely called his shot. And this guy's

1095
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,439
Speaker 1: grandfather had told him that story. That's how long ago

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01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 1: it was. So having this kid like back in the fifties,

1097
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: he says, the Bisons are playing up in Lockport. He hees, yeah,

1098
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: they could come on in the dugout. Yeah, it's everybody.

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01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: It's really romanticizes the past about you know, how unencumbered

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01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: we were when everything was you know, we most of

1101
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: us still had this sense of wonder about the world,

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01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: you know, and celebrities were people that were famous, not famous,

1103
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They were people first, even

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01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: even the big celebrities. And that that's kind of the

1105
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: fun part about the distant past that we hear about.

1106
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: So much good contribution so far. We do have to

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Speaker 1: take a break here because when we come back, we'll

1108
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: be talking with out Kick NFL senior writer Armando sell Garow.

1109
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: He'll be joining us next here on One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: presented by Callot to help. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. It's

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01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: summer and Bill's head coach Sean McDermott wants us all

1112
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: thinking about sun defense. Coach is passionate about skin cancer

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Speaker 1: prevention as it runs in his family, and he takes

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Speaker 1: sun protection very seriously. Most importantly, of course, is wearing sunscreen.

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Speaker 1: Right now, you can stop by your local Weagments for

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Speaker 1: all your sun protection needs. Wegmans will donate one dollar

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Speaker 1: for every Wegman sunscreen product sold through August thirty first

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Speaker 1: in their Buffalo Rochester and Syracuse stores. It's a great

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Speaker 1: way to protect your family and help the fight against

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Speaker 1: skin cancer and think sun defense like Bill's head coach

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. And if you are headed out to training

1122
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: camp tomorrow, there will be a sunscreen booth to get

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Speaker 1: you completely covered and protected, so be sure to do that.

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Speaker 1: It's been a lot of sunshine out there at camp

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01:04:54,440 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 1: so far this summer. We are awaiting the ival of

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01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: one Armando Salguero, OutKick senior NFL writer, as we talked

1127
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: to him about the Dolphins penalties in the wake of

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Speaker 1: their tampering investigation. Did not get penalized for tanking or

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01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: alleged tanking or incentivizing tanking the Yeah, it was a

1130
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: he said, she said situation. While this other stuff that

1131
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: the tampering with Tom Brady and Sean mc sean Payton,

1132
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 1: that was all corroborated. Yeah, so by multiple people, well,

1133
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, Tom Brady, and Brady's agent and Brady's agent

1134
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: Don Yee. So there you go. So we'll catch up

1135
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: with Armando as soon as he hops on the line

1136
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: and joins us. We do want to go to the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet, which is brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

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Speaker 1: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills, to

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Speaker 1: get some comments there for the craziest autograph scene they've

1140
01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:00,439
Speaker 1: ever witnessed, Laurie says t O's first day at Saint

1141
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: John Fisher, when he walked over to the stands to

1142
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: sign and the media deserted Dick Geron's post practice press

1143
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: conference in mass to follow. Owens I still laugh about that.

1144
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: I do remember that two thousand and nine. I also

1145
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: remember that they made a cereal for Terrell called t O's,

1146
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: and he had to go to a local supermarket there

1147
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,439
Speaker 1: in Rochester to hawk the cereal. It was his whole

1148
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: big thing. Cameras were everywhere, bulbs were flashing. I mean,

1149
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 1: it was like, it was unbelievable. I'm just like, what

1150
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: the heck is going on here? Thirty five year old

1151
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: Terrell Owens. You know he was, He's a Hall of Famer. Yes,

1152
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: what a force of nature. He was more of a

1153
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: storm than a yes, anything else. But it was unbelievable.

1154
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: He was really really good. He gets law, he gets

1155
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: lost in all the stuff surrounding him, you know, doing

1156
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: sit ups. Unfortunate, fortunate, and he has and he had

1157
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: some demons to deal with too, no question, but what

1158
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,919
Speaker 1: an incredible player he was, and the bill signed him

1159
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: to that one year deal kind of out of the blue,

1160
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: remember is kind of out of the blue. Nobody even

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01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 1: knew really they were talking until just before right as

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Speaker 1: it happened, or really just they signed who Yeah, and

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01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 1: there was all kinds of stuff on the internet about,

1164
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: you know, jokes about it, but it was there. They

1165
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 1: game McKay to the city. You hadn't even played a game.

1166
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: There was nuts nuts, oh well, absolutely fun stuff. It

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Speaker 1: was uh tie Now though for us to welcome in

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Speaker 1: senior NFL writer for OutKick dot Com, it is one

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01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: Armando Salgaro joining us, and Armando's ears had to be

1170
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: ringing because the last time we had him on he

1171
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: was telling us and essentially corroborating what the independent arbitrator

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01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: revealed to us in there in her decision the other

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01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: day that talking to Brady and talking to Sean Payton

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01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: did in fact happen. Um. And here we are at

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01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 1: the conclusion of said happenstance. You and uh Armando, you

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01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 1: told us that was all true months ago before all

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01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 1: this came out. We believed you by the way what

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01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: we did and what I mean, how does that fly

1179
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 1: in South Florida coming to where the guys playing for

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01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: another team and they're gonna do absolutely anything to lure

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01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 1: him away. Yeah, South Florida was was in the AFC

1182
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 1: Championship game. I think it was nineteen ninety three or four,

1183
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 1: I forget which one it was, and hasn't been in

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01:08:55,080 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: it since. Yea. Yeah, are you feeling where I'm going here?

1185
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 1: South Florida has not been relevant from a football perspective

1186
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: for a long, long, long time, gentlemen. And so would

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01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: South Florida be upset that Tom Brady, the long time

1188
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: bad guy with the New England Patriots, would come to

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins. No, they'd love it because, by the way,

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01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 1: he's a little bit of an upgrade. But you know,

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01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 1: we're not gonna go there at this point. It's not

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01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: gonna happen. But I gotta give the Dolphins credit as

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01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 1: far as you know, doing illegal stuff, because they did

1194
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 1: it as a matter of you know, just basically habit

1195
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:53,560
Speaker 1: for three years with Tom Brady and then last January

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01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: for a week or so with Sean Payton not caring

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01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 1: one iota about NFL tampering rules. Yeah, do they feel

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01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: differently now that they don't have a first and a

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01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: third round pick coming up here in the next two drafts.

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01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 1: I know, he got fined a million and a half.

1201
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: I mean, it's chump change for Stephen Ross. I mean,

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01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 1: is this Does this serve as an effective deterrent? Or

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01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 1: does Stephen Ross go down this road again and try

1204
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 1: to be more covert. I don't think he would do

1205
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: it again. You know, Stephen Ross is not a billionaire

1206
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: eight times over because he's a dummy. So I'm sure

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01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 1: that he probably understands that this is the first time offense,

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01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: or at least the first time he was caught, let's

1209
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: put it that way, okay, and you know, eyes out

1210
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 1: for what he might do down the road. It would

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01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 1: be very smart of him not to do it again,

1212
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 1: and not to be so brazen about it, because that's

1213
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: the other thing. It's just Look, I'm a reporter, right

1214
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: and I knew about this. How I I'm not inside

1215
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: these meetings with the Miami Dolphins. I'm not. They're not

1216
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,839
Speaker 1: calling me and telling me, hey, uh, by the way,

1217
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 1: today we tried to tamper with Tom Brady. They're not

1218
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: doing that. And yet I knew about it last March,

1219
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 1: so it's not exactly like it was well hidden and

1220
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:32,480
Speaker 1: good cloak and dagger stuff. This is this is like, um,

1221
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, uh, terrible spycraft. It's terrible one. And what

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01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 1: do you think if since you knew about it, when

1223
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 1: do you think if at all the Patriots knew about it?

1224
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: You're you're opening up another can of warrants. Because the

1225
01:11:56,360 --> 01:12:01,600
Speaker 1: Patriots are not exactly a pristine follow every rule franchise,

1226
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 1: are they They're not exactly a franchise known for the

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01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: all the I mean, they're known for winning a lot.

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01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: I'll give them that. They win a ton, especially when

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01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 1: Tom Brady was around. Did they have their black eyes

1230
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: as far as breaking the rules? Yeah, I'd say they

1231
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: have a couple of times, right, notably so Armando. Here's

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01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: the thing that you know, I'm trying to wrap my

1233
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: head around. They pretty much come down on them hard

1234
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 1: for tampering. They did have hard and fast evidence on

1235
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 1: that made that decision easy. Obviously, with the tanking allegations

1236
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 1: from Brian Flores, that became a he said, he said

1237
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 1: type of thing. I'm just troubled by the fact that

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01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:59,480
Speaker 1: Stephen Ross essentially gets off on the tanking allegations by saying, ah,

1239
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 1: I was just joking like that seems awfully flimsy to me,

1240
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 1: that there is no penalty of any kind for the tanking, which,

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01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: by the way, Chris, they did. They tanked. They didn't

1242
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:20,719
Speaker 1: tank in the sense of they weren't trying during the season,

1243
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: or they didn't coach hard, or they weren't trying to

1244
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 1: improve as a football team. They tanked in the sense

1245
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:32,680
Speaker 1: that prior to the season, they decimated the roster, they

1246
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 1: stripped it down to the bare bones, with players who

1247
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:42,600
Speaker 1: had no NFL experience, no NFL accomplishments taking over for

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01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 1: players that did have NFL experience and NFL accomplishments. And

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01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 1: they did that with the stated purpose of cleaning out

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01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: the salary cap and setting themselves up for the twenty

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01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: twenty season. The wart says very clearly and outlines how

1252
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: Steve Ross throughout the season told his general manager, told

1253
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 1: the team president, told Brian Flores, it's more important that

1254
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 1: we are set up for, you know, the upcoming draft,

1255
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 1: than we win games this year. And I think I

1256
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 1: said twenty twenty season, it was the twenty nineteen season.

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01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 1: So when the owner who sets the marching orders for

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Speaker 1: the entire organization tells the leaders of the organization, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I don't care whether you win or lose. I care

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Speaker 1: about the draft and our draft position next year. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what's the message. Is the message go out and win, guys?

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Speaker 1: Or is the message if you don't win, that's fine

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Speaker 1: because it'll get us a better draft pick. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you tell me. I think it says winning is not

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01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:01,839
Speaker 1: the most important thing, right, And so they move ahead,

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Speaker 1: and now they find themselves without the ability to rebuild,

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Speaker 1: and of course the internet right away say listen, they

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01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 1: can't even get into the quarterback rich draft next year

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01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,639
Speaker 1: because they lose their first round pick, and now if

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Speaker 1: two A doesn't play well, they can't even draft his replacement. Um,

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Speaker 1: this is a and from the Commissioner's office. Obviously, they

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Speaker 1: announced this the day after the Deshaun Watson suspension was announced.

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Speaker 1: What's your gut feeling about whether they will appeal that suspension.

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Speaker 1: I think that the NFL will appeal that suspension. The

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01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 1: NFL went into that that hearing requesting a one year

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01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: indefinite suspension, in other words, an indefinite suspension, and then

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01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 1: we'll we'll revisit after one year, so at least one year,

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01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 1: and the NFL in those hearings basically proved every prown

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Speaker 1: of its kids. They proved that Watson caused the threat

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Speaker 1: of harm to others. They proved that the Shawn Watson

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01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 1: engaged in their definition of sexual assault. They proved that

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01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 1: the Shaun Watson brought disrepute to the integrity of the NFL.

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01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 1: Those were the three prongs of their case. The judge

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01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 1: or the former federal judge who was the discipline officer, said,

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01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 1: I agree with you. You absolutely beyond a reasonable doubt

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01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,799
Speaker 1: and with the preponderance of the evidence, proved those three things.

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Speaker 1: But I'm limiting the scope of the sanctions to six games.

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01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 1: And so the NFL is like, wait a second, we

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01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 1: hit a home run on our case. Yet what we

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01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 1: asked for we're not getting, which is a one year suspension.

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Speaker 1: I think those are grounds for an appeal. So how

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01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: delicate is an appeals process here? Because there is there

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01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 1: is an element of this at work too. You have

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Speaker 1: a judge who no doubt would want to be part

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Speaker 1: of future arbitrations. I mean, look, she's a retired federal judge,

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Speaker 1: She's got plenty of money in the bank. But if

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01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 1: you side too far on one side or the other,

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01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: one of these two parties is not going to hire

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Speaker 1: you again. If another case comes up in which these

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01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 1: two sides are opposing one another, that's number one. Number two,

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Speaker 1: How hard does the NFL push, you know, Sue Robinson

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Speaker 1: through the appeals process with this, knowing they certainly wanted

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01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 1: something more than six games, right, the idea that the

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01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 1: NFL would upset Judge Robinson retired, and you know by appealing,

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01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:56,799
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I know this. There are other federal

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01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: judges available if she no longer wants to be a

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Speaker 1: part of it. What is more pressing is does the NFL,

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01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 1: this is the Watson case is the first one in

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01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 1: the new fangled personal conduct policy that goes through the

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Speaker 1: process that was most recently set up. So the process

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Speaker 1: that most recently set up. If the NFL says that

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Speaker 1: now that process made major mistakes, we are appealing because

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Speaker 1: we don't want like this result, it says, it kind

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Speaker 1: of diminishes the new process. It hurts the new process.

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Speaker 1: It calls into question the new process. Beyond that, if

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Speaker 1: the NFL appeals and somehow the appeal comes out with

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01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 1: more punishment for Deshaun Watson, the chances of him going

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Speaker 1: into court and suing the league are quite quite high.

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01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 1: And if that happens, all of a sudden, through the

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Speaker 1: jugis process, Deshaun Watson the first week of the season

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01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 1: could be playing instead of suspended, and could be playing

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Speaker 1: until the lawsuit that he brings because of this appeal

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Speaker 1: is heard and adjudicated. So instead of getting a six

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01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 1: game suspension this year, the NFL, by appealing, could walk

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Speaker 1: into Deshaun Watson plays all of twenty twenty two and

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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens in court. How likely is that

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Speaker 1: given the fact we've heard that it is written in

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Speaker 1: the CBA that if it's it appeals, the process says

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Speaker 1: it goes right back to the commissioner after this app

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01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: I mean the epicion the NFL appeals to the commissioner,

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01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: and that's what the process is lined out to do.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't that absolutely negate any recourse that the union hazard

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson because this is what they agreed to. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean at the point where we're involving lawyers and

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01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson has no problem hiring them, as you've seen,

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Speaker 1: and the NFLPA, the Players Association has no problem hiring them.

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Speaker 1: As we've seen, at the point where lawyers are involved,

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Speaker 1: anything is possible because those guys they're in they're in

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01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 1: the business of getting into the words and getting in

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01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:28,759
Speaker 1: between the words and getting under the words and making money.

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01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: And they will do what they need to do to

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01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 1: do exactly that on behalf of their clients, regardless of

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01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 1: what the CBA says. And then back to the Dolphins quickly.

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Speaker 1: You know, they don't have their own first round pick.

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01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:47,520
Speaker 1: I know they still have that one from San Francisco,

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01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 1: so they still have a one. Next year, they don't

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01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 1: have a three, and they parted. If I remember how

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01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: many twenty twenty three picks did they give up in

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01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,799
Speaker 1: the Tyree Hill trade? Like, how bare is the cupboard

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01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 1: in terms of draft capital for twenty twenty three? Do

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01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: you know offhand, Armando, I believe they, Well, they gave

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01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 1: up a first They had three first round picks in

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01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, and now they're down to one. So

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01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 1: that's that's a thing. Beyond that, they are now in

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Speaker 1: the situation where they are rooting for one of two things.

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01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 1: They are rooting the two a tongue of by law

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01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 1: in his third year becomes an amazing quarterback that looks

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01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 1: every bit as elite as the number of five overall pick,

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01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 1: which he was once upon a time. Or they're hoping

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Speaker 1: that the San Francisco forty nine Ers collapse and to

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01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,719
Speaker 1: the point where the team that was in the NFC

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01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 1: Championship Game last year is just terrible and in the

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Speaker 1: top five picking next year. I don't think either one

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Speaker 1: of those two things are likely. They're both possible, but likely.

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Speaker 1: I don't see the forty nine ers collapsing, and so

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Speaker 1: I don't see that pick that the Dolphins are getting

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Speaker 1: being super high. And I don't see two a tongue

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Speaker 1: of by law rising from a solid but not good

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01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 1: or great NFL quarterback in his first two years to

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Speaker 1: elite in one year. I don't. I don't see it happening.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, should prove it to me, show me. So

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Speaker 1: it's a tough situation for the team, no doubt. Which

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01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 1: of the NFC quarterbacks that have jumped ship and come

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01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: over to the AFC, like Matt Ryan Russ Wilson, Most notably,

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01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 1: which of those two guys is in the better spot.

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01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 1: A Colt seemed poised to go to the playoffs last

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01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 1: year before they stumbled again in Jacksonville Week seventeen. And

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01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 1: then of course Denver, who finally got a guy to

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01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 1: take snaps who's competent. Is it too late in their

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01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: wind for them to make the most of it. I

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01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: don't think the window is closed or too late on

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01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 1: the Broncos. What I think about the Broncos is that

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01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 1: they play in the best division in the NFL. There

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01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 1: are no gimmings, as you guys know, in the AFC West,

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01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 1: It's everybody's good. Everybody's got a very good quarterback. Everybody's

1386
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 1: got not one, but two outstanding pass rushers on the edge,

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01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 1: everybody's got outstanding wide receiver talent. It's like everybody's got

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01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:36,679
Speaker 1: a good running game and a solid offensive line. Those

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01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 1: four teams are gonna beat the crap out of each other,

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01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be very interested to see who survives

1391
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: number one and how they do in the playoffs, whether

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01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 1: it strengthens them or weakens them after that seventeen game season,

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01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 1: and who doesn't make it, because not all four of

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01:23:56,200 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 1: them are gonna get in the playoffs. I don't believe Yeamando,

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Speaker 1: Thanks as always for the perspective. We appreciate it, especially

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01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:05,719
Speaker 1: this South Florida news. I know there are no Bills

1397
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,879
Speaker 1: fans crying in their beer over the Dolphins losing draft choices.

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01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 1: And now we have two teams in the division that

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01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 1: don't play by the rules. So yeah, all we need

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01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 1: now are the Jets to do something foolish and we'll

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01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 1: have a clean sweep. I don't know if you've missed it, Chris,

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01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 1: but the Jets have been doing foolish stuff since nineteen

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01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 1: sixty foolish, true, foolish true, not illegal, but yes, foolish absolutely,

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01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 1: much to our chagrin, they seem to have. Nobody was

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01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 1: criticizing the Jets draft this year. I felt like we

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01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 1: missed a holiday. The best life of the segment. That

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Speaker 1: is a good one. Armando, Thanks as always, We'll catch

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01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 1: up with you soon. Enjoy the rest of your sum

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Speaker 1: Thank you. All right, that's Armando Salgara joining us from OutKick,

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Speaker 1: senior NFL writer. We will take a break here. When

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Speaker 1: we come back, we'll see if we have time for

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Speaker 1: a couple more calls on your craziest autograph scenes ever?

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01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 1: And are there now clues available as to why the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals wanted to include a mandatory study clause in Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray's Giant contract extension. We investigate next here on one

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Speaker 1: more autograph story here Steve and we go to John

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01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:21,719
Speaker 1: and Buffalo. What do you got for his? John? Hey, hi, fellas,

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01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 1: thanks for the opportunity. Yeah, it was like in nineteen

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01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 1: or fifty seven or fifty eight, my dad took me

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01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 1: to a game at the Old Rock Pile. It was

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01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 1: between the It was actually a regular season game between

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01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 1: the Giant New York Giants and the Chicago Cardinals. As

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01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 1: the time, I think that something was going at one

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01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 1: of their stadiums. Anyway, with maybe about a minute or

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01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 1: two less in the game, they actually let the crowd

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01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 1: go down on into the field and I went over

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01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: to the Giants bench because I was a big Giants fan.

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01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 1: They used to show the games before the bills, they

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01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 1: used to show the Giants game and Uh. Anyway, I

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01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 1: saw uh one of the players on the sideline and

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01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 1: I wanted his autograph and uh, but he was preoccupied

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01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 1: watching the game. And anyway, Alex Webster, who was their fullback,

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01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 1: he came over and saw me and he say, hey, kid,

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01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 1: come out over here. I'll give you an autograph. So

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01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 1: he gave me an autograph. But what I find fascinating,

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01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,600
Speaker 1: it's just uh. And like I said, I was like

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01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 1: seven or eighty years old at time. It was a

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01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 1: different atmosphere that you had. You know, you wouldn't get

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01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: anywhere near the field, let alone the bench today. Yeah. Anyway,

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01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 1: that was my story yeah, and you think about it.

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01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 1: You look back at the old thing and the game

1455
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 1: and it's interesting was still going on, right. Remember the

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01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 1: game that they always say that this was the game

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01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 1: that made the NFL a great TV watch. Was the

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01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 1: Colts at the Giants games played at the end of

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01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 1: that when the guy goes in, the crowd was right

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01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 1: there and they all onto the field and storm the field.

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01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 1: They were there already. It's like the same thing they

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01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 1: let the let the ground. Yeah, yeah, come on down,

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01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 1: the game's almost over, you guys, come on down on

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01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 1: the field. That it just wasn't done. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it just it's not done now. But it just you know,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a big deal back then. What a different time.

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Speaker 1: It was a different time. Thanks for all the calls, everybody.

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Speaker 1: There is some numbers geek out there in cyberspace that

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Speaker 1: decided to match up Call of Duty tournaments online with

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's passer rating on the same weekends, believing there

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Speaker 1: could be a correlation in the wake of the mandatory

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Speaker 1: study clause in his contract. I gotta tell you the

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Speaker 1: results the guy came up with. There are slight decreases

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Speaker 1: in Murray's performance on weekends where there were a call

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Speaker 1: of duty tournaments because apparently he's a nut play in

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01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 1: this game. This is what happens when you put a

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Speaker 1: clause in a contract like this and then publicize it.

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Speaker 1: But there was a significant drop off in his one

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Speaker 1: law record, Yes that is true. They went from eighteen

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Speaker 1: sixteen and one to four and seven. As the world

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Speaker 1: turns and the Kyler Murray world, be happy. You got

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Speaker 1: the guy you got. That's it for us today. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you back at training camp at Saint John Fisher

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Speaker 1: tomorrow at one