1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players Lounge, 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star. 4 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCrae, Heckma Harrison, and 5 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: new He scrugs. 6 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: All right, we are everybody. 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 3: It is time for the Players Lounge right here on 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio at Aristocrat Gaming is our sponsor. Yes, yes, 9 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 3: up here in the house. We got Barry Church here, 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 3: that same old heck. 11 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 4: Y'all know by now, I have no allegiance. All I 12 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 4: have allegiances. It doesn't match, and it matches. You got 13 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 4: cod It's in the back of the Bentley. Just reach 14 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 4: that grad and then it came in here. 15 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: It didn't coming in math color anything. I got one 16 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: of the blackish Pittsburgh Penguin. 17 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you know, okay, okay, hey, hey, you 18 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: look as heck you well know you grew up around here. 19 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: There's a lot of Dallas Laker fans. 20 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 3: I called the Dallas Yankee fan and the Dallas Laker fan. 21 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 5: It happens, It happens. Have you guys been watching the Olympics. Yeah, 22 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 5: you've been watching the Olympics. So you saw ladies gymnastics 23 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 5: women when the gold medal? Yes, but have you been 24 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 5: watching rugby? 25 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: I saw some highlights, just saw some highlights. 26 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 5: Look, I can tell you right now, do I have 27 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 5: not fully got understood rugby? You know I called the 28 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 5: cross and games like that, games like that. But rugby 29 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 5: is still in my heart. You know, they work, like 30 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 5: I said, the highlights. Yeah, this lady, I think her 31 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 5: last name is ma Her something like that. Mar Man, 32 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 5: she man, trucking, trucking, running them down. 33 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: It's worth watching. 34 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 5: I'm telling you, I've never I am a fan of rugby. 35 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 2: Now check it out. So didn't didn't America get a 36 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: bronze or something like that? 37 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 5: Yes, rugby, last second touch it's not even called a 38 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 5: touchdown score or whatever that is called the pitch. 39 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: It's all that, yo. 40 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 5: Look it's it's a real game, man. And I'm telling 41 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 5: you I have a full appreciation for rugby. 42 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: No medaling in rugby, you know, for the US women, 43 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 3: that's big time right there. 44 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's good stuff. 45 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 6: No. 46 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 3: Hey, look, when when these things happen, you always kind 47 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: of have this like, hey, we expect to do this 48 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: or that. To me, when you when you team buys, 49 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 3: when you come home and a medal, then that's big 50 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: time every everything. I mean, it's just you know, it's 51 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: just big time. That happened there, all right, hec Ma 52 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: Harrison came up with a pretty good one. 53 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: You got the heck what you got for us? 54 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: Heckman wanted to go and dive into Mike Zimmer the defense. 55 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: No, I do. 56 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 5: I think it's important, especially coming from the dan Quinn administration, 57 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 5: to find out what this defense is gonna look like. 58 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 5: I mean, Mike Zimmer comes into a situation with a 59 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 5: ton of playmakers, and the people on the outside looking 60 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 5: in are saying, what is this defense gonna look like? 61 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 5: And the last time we saw them, they were giving 62 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 5: up a ton of yards on the ground to a 63 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 5: guy by the name of Aaron Jones who doesn't play 64 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 5: for the Green Bay Packers anymore. But we understand that 65 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 5: everybody else in the league is going to test this 66 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 5: defense up front, and I think right now and it's 67 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 5: just from what we're seeing and what we're able to 68 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 5: see from here. Look, the defense isn't getting off to 69 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 5: a fast start like they had been before. 70 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: And you know. 71 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 5: To me, it's been about learning a new scheme, learning 72 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 5: a new system. If that is what we can't allow 73 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 5: for grace when we're looking at this defense, and I 74 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 5: know BC we've talked about this is just you know, look, 75 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 5: defense typically is the group that starts fast. 76 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, you know. 77 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 5: And so I'm asking like, guys, so you do you 78 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 5: allow a little bit of grace because they are implementing 79 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 5: a new system and we don't know what that new 80 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 5: system looks like. But I think Mike Zimmer has his 81 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 5: hands on it and he's trying to change some things. 82 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely. 83 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 4: When we talked yesterday, I was like, you know, that's 84 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 4: a very very fair statement when you're talking about giving 85 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 4: them a great little bit of grace because you go 86 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: from a dan Quinn system, which I think is going 87 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 4: to be a lot different than what Zimmer's going to 88 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 4: bring out here this season. I mean, dan Quinn, you 89 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 4: had guys moving all over the place. It was a 90 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 4: multiple defense, guys blitzing from all over the place. And 91 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 4: Mike Zimmers is more of a traditional You got the 92 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 4: two high safeties up there, you got the three linebackers 93 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 4: or the four linebackers. If he goes with three forty. 94 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 4: You got the big space eaters up front. You're thinking 95 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 4: of a Limbaugh Joseph back in you know, those Minnesota days. 96 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: So he's used to having. 97 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 4: Those big old guys that space eat up there to 98 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 4: let his linebackers Kendrick's back in the day run sideline 99 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 4: the sideline and Anthony Barr back. 100 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: In the day. 101 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 4: So that's what I think his defense, you know, will 102 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 4: have for this Dallas Cowboys. What worries me slightly is 103 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 4: when you look at that the safety unit back there 104 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 4: last year. You you know, you had Donald Wilson playing 105 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 4: a lot closer to the line of scrimmage. He was 106 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 4: almost like a you know, another linebacker out there as 107 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 4: well as Curse, and that's where they made a lot 108 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 4: of their Hey Donald Wilson coming down laying the boomstick 109 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 4: on people helping in that run defense. He didn't really 110 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 4: do a lot of that deep secondary work as far 111 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 4: as making sure everything's in front of them, deep half safety, 112 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 4: deep middle of the field. 113 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 2: That was all Malie Cooker last year. So to me 114 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: that you know that that that those little monkey wrens, 115 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: I understand. 116 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 4: We got the corners on the outside that are able 117 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 4: to lock down if need be and play zone because 118 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 4: we understand Zimmer runs a lot of zone. 119 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: Defenses, a lot of zone. 120 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 4: Defense, so you know it's it's gonna have a little 121 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 4: quarts here and there. I'm gonna give you some grace, period. 122 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 4: But to me, it all comes down to those guys 123 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 4: up front. Are they gonna be able to space eat 124 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: and let those linebackers run sideline the sideline because if not, 125 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 4: that's gonna you know that that rolls downhill. Then you 126 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 4: got guys up in the laps of your linebackers, you 127 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 4: got the passing attack being able to get up. 128 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: On your secondary. 129 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 4: So there's some issues, but I believe Mike Zimmer is 130 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 4: a coach that can get the job done. 131 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: No. 132 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 5: We we talked about it, and I think when you 133 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 5: you listen to Mike zim and his interviews. I heard 134 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 5: him a couple of days ago on one five three 135 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 5: the Fan, our flagship station here at the Dallas Cowboys, 136 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 5: and you know he was just talking about how you 137 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 5: know how to use Michael and how excited he is 138 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 5: about having mikeel what he's seen from Michael so far, 139 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 5: and Dan Quinn had the same epiphany, like this guy 140 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 5: can play every position, and I'm saying to myself, don't 141 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 5: do it. 142 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: Mike, don't do it, Mike, don't. 143 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 5: Fall into it, because everybody else's falling too, and fell 144 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 5: into it before. And you know, I really want to 145 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 5: see how he uses these guys on the outside because 146 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 5: to me, dan Quinn really trusted these guys, really gave 147 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 5: them a lot of leeway and freedom. 148 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:38,119 Speaker 2: Up front. 149 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 5: You saw them playing a lot of four I you know, 150 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 5: instead of their true five, and sometime they got penalized 151 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 5: by that. You know, those tackles and those tight ends 152 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 5: were able to eat and come down on them and 153 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 5: things with losing contained that way. So you know it's 154 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 5: a and we're gonna probably get into this a little 155 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 5: bit later, but you know, there are some guys up front, 156 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 5: man that I just believe are on the clock. You know, look, 157 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 5: you gotta get it done and you can't be halfway 158 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 5: in halfway out, and that's where we need the most improvement. 159 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 5: But for me, our linebacking corps just du they are thumping, okay, 160 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 5: they are thumping, and you're seeing these guys come up. 161 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 5: I mean it was a lot of olay action, you know, 162 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 5: trying to run around, trying to shed and get around me. 163 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 5: And I know it's a part of the game, but still, 164 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 5: when you see a linebacker run, run, come downhill and 165 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 5: take that guard on and lower the boom on them, 166 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 5: that's football to me and not running around. And that's 167 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 5: the kind of toughness that I think that a guy 168 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,559 Speaker 5: like Mike Zimmer is going to bring to to our defail. 169 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: And that was the problem last year. 170 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 4: I mean and understand, Belle, you know you got to 171 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 4: give him some procecues. He wit in there that was 172 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 4: in his position, and they threw them in there at 173 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 4: the linebacker spot. But that was the issue of too 174 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 4: many old laying in that linebacking court, not being able 175 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 4: to shock lock and escape off the blocks and opening 176 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 4: up further lanes for Aaron Jones, for the guy from 177 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 4: James Cook from Buffalo to rack up all those yards 178 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 4: too much. Olay in instead of putting your helmet in 179 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 4: somebody's face. And I'm glad we're seeing that. 180 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: Early on in this camp. 181 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 5: Row here we go, hope, let us come on, let 182 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 5: us skate, come on, man, keep us under rails. 183 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: I like Mike Zimmer, We all liked him. Like Zimmers 184 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: lived and played with big people Cincinnati. You're talking about Minnesota, 185 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: Lynn Belle, Joseph, Kevin Williams, Cherie Floyd. 186 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: You see that huge you see any of that here? 187 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: Okay, So so if if you didn't make if you 188 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 3: up here making your living with Biggins and we don't 189 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: see no Biggins. 190 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 2: Slip and you gotta change things up a little bit. 191 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: You there with the big Max. 192 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: Now we got the regulars, the regular regular margin. 193 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: So I go back into this, Yes we can like 194 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: the carpenter, does he have the tools that he needs? 195 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 3: And right now I will have to be sold because 196 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 3: game one, if I'm Kevin Stefanski, I already know what 197 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 3: I'm about to. 198 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: Okay, chump town. We I mean, here it comes. Baby. 199 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: I'm not worried about Micah. And if I do it, Michael, 200 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: I'm running at you. 201 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: But right now we go, we're going up to you 202 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: were going to show me that you can stop this run. 203 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: And we've had one padded practice. Yeah, so there's you know. 204 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 3: It's nice to talk about it, but for me, man, 205 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 3: these games right here, these first five, that's a whole 206 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 3: We're gonna learn a whole lot, to learn a whole lot. 207 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 3: So my concern is did yeah, Claire Till wrote the 208 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: things that are they setting up Mike McCarthy to fail? 209 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 5: Man, I mean even the title when even when I 210 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 5: saw the title was like I got to clear, I 211 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 5: gotta read. 212 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 3: And so you talk about you talk about Michael, I 213 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: look at Mike Zimmer. I mean, we could sit up 214 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 3: here all day long and bring in, Hey, these creative minds. 215 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 3: But if you don't have the talent, I mean Phil 216 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,599 Speaker 3: Jackson when he took the Laker jack like Josh for 217 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 3: a reason. 218 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 2: What there's Kobe there shat you need talent? 219 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, And it's a player's league, Bill Belicherwis, it's 220 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: a players league right now, Pakma, who are you confident 221 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 3: on this D line? 222 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sorry, defensive tackle. I mean, be more specific, 223 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: defensive tackle. That's about the outside guys. 224 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 3: It's about the tackles because that's where you're attacking the 225 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 3: Cowboys if you want to beat them right now. 226 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm you know, I'm a big fan of Osa 227 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 5: the Diggie Joe, I really am. And he's one of 228 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 5: those guys that I'm saying this on the clock as 229 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 5: well as you know he's on the clock, and I 230 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 5: want to see him take that next step. We've seen 231 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 5: him be dominant, then we've seen him another time not 232 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 5: be so dominant. Okay, does he have all his twoes known? 233 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 5: But I think he does come into a very unique 234 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 5: situation with the defense that is able to turn the 235 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 5: ball over. Now, a lot of that had to do 236 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 5: with Dan Quinn in this scheme and what he allowed 237 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 5: for those guys do, and so does he change that. 238 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 5: But what you're seeing in camp, and what I've been 239 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 5: seeing is that they're still getting those these dbs. It 240 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 5: doesn't matter if it's that, doesn't matter who it, Cooper, Rush, 241 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 5: Trey Lance. They're getting those interceptions and so that's just 242 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 5: a part of their mo and then you're getting your 243 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 5: leader digs in the second they're off of pupp I think, look, 244 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 5: all that does is add to it, and let's not look, 245 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 5: let's be for real about this. Mike Zimmer comes into 246 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 5: a situation where he has a defensive star that he 247 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 5: has the the task of grooming into being the playmaker 248 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 5: that we all know that he can be. And that's 249 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 5: Michael Parsons. 250 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: What did Philly do when they when they win Mike? 251 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 3: If you're going to take Mike out the games who 252 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: are ill straight at him, go at him, but also 253 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 3: not only going to go with him, We're going We 254 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: know your defensive tackles are a soft spot. It hasn't changed, 255 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 3: and for me that was frustrating to watch free agency 256 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: in the draft. These need to be priority. Yes, the 257 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 3: defensive backs are good, but if warren't sap, you say 258 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: that don't work without the front. 259 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: No, absolutely work together. And for me that I need 260 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 2: to see more. 261 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 3: So that means we need to see more of camp. 262 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 3: We need to see preseason games of how they're going 263 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: to attack this thing up front, because like I said, 264 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 3: right now, Cleveland, I. 265 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: Don't do daily fantasy. I don't do that. I don't 266 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: I don't do that. 267 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: My goodness gracious, but you will be if if all right, 268 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: I'd write down a hunting for honey for job, because 269 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 3: right now what we have seen they have not fixed. 270 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 2: In fact, it's gotten worse. 271 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 5: And it's been that way for even when dan Quinn 272 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 5: was here. That's that's been the Achilles Hill. That is 273 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 5: what we've been talking about for a very long time. 274 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 5: And I mean, Barry, look man, you've been the leader 275 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 5: of some really good defenses and so you understand that. 276 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 5: That's why I've swung that over because he knows that. 277 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like stopping the run is just 278 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 5: an attitude. It's just it's just one of those things. 279 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 4: I mean, you look at our defense and I think 280 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 4: it was twenty fourteen or twenty sixteen, we were number 281 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 4: one against the run and we didn't. 282 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: Have any any you know, big star. 283 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 4: It was all mentality, you know, Coach Marynelli drilled it 284 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 4: into our heads, we will not be successful unless we 285 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 4: stop this run. And that's exactly what we were able 286 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 4: to do. Do we have the sac numbers, No, but 287 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 4: we were able to clog those holes up. We were 288 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 4: great tackling in the secondary and it worked out for us. 289 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 4: But what also, you know, we talked about the interior 290 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 4: defensive line. We're gonna getrough this, I'm sure later on 291 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 4: in the show. But where's the depth on the outside 292 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 4: as well with the DN spots? 293 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: So stay right there with Marionnelly. 294 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 3: Okay, he had the tools he needed, He had the 295 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 3: kind of players that he wanted that we've seen him. 296 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: Win with the scrappy players. 297 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 3: Right, he liked those kind of guys. I'm just going 298 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 3: back into what we've seen from Mike Zimmer in his 299 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 3: last two stops between Cincinnati and Minnesota. You don't have 300 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: that right now, and you at the Beef and that 301 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: to me is that's still my concern. We talked about 302 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: it earlier. My concern is gonna be your offensive and 303 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: defensive lines, especially with the schedules and type of teams. 304 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: You're playing right now. 305 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 3: Because Game one, Kevin Spans get coming at you, coming 306 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: at you. Maybe that's what we're doing. So the Saints Baltimore, 307 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,599 Speaker 3: we know what, we know what they You already got you, 308 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 3: you already know what they're about to do. You got 309 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 3: the Giants, but Daniel Jones, you got no choice with 310 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 3: to go ahead. 311 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: And they did the whole TV self. You say, go on, 312 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: but we know what they're gonna do there. 313 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: And then after that you got the Giant, I mean 314 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 3: from you from the Giants, then you got Pittsburgh. 315 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,119 Speaker 2: So right out of the gate, we're about. 316 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: To figure out what this this this team is going 317 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 3: to be able to do. 318 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: In terms of running the ball. 319 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 3: You got to you got to stop this run because 320 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: everybody's coming at you're you're and look, we know how 321 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: preseason games go. But August eleventh, the preseason game is 322 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: going to be against the Rams. Sean McVay likes to 323 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,359 Speaker 3: run the football. He't about to put out his good people. 324 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: But he's going to They're going to have a steady 325 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: diet of run. Can I ask you guys this? 326 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 5: And I think even when you go back a couple 327 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 5: of year as a dan Quinn system, and we saw 328 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 5: guys like a Fowler, okay, you know a guy like that, 329 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 5: that just guy's being very undisciplined up front, you know, 330 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 5: taking taking inside versus their outside responsibility. 331 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: He saw a lot of freelance. 332 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 5: And that's why I said dan Quinn trusted these guys 333 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 5: maybe too much because they were freelancing a lot. And 334 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 5: I think that that's the thing that Mike Zimmer has 335 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 5: to fix on this defense because there's only one Michael Parsons. Okay, 336 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 5: and Sam Williams is missing. But I think Sam Williams 337 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 5: himself was a victim of Okay, I want to get 338 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 5: some shine too, So you know, look, I'm gonna play 339 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 5: a little bit undisciplined. And we saw that all year 340 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 5: round that guys were just continuously out of position. 341 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 2: Talking to people in the buildings. 342 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 5: Yeah inside exactly heard the same thing, heard the same thing, 343 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 5: so we'll see. 344 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it's. 345 00:15:54,640 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: It's definitely an issue. But I mean, while you're correct, 346 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: it's an issue. But if you're gonna win the division 347 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 3: and win twelve games, you know you can take some 348 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: of the warts with that, you can take some of 349 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 3: the warts. I just don't know how it translates into 350 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 3: this defense and how much it does cost you. 351 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: So I'm not pooh poohing it. By the way, I 352 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: and this is something I've learned to do as a 353 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: media person over time. 354 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: I've learned to be skeptical, like, Okay, I'm just not gonna. 355 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 3: I'm just not gonna just because you said it doesn't 356 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: make it. So I'm going to be skeptical. I need 357 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: to be shown. I need to be shown. Because we 358 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: all saw the draft, we all saw free agency, and we. 359 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: All saw the Packer game. 360 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: Nothing was done right now to make me feel good 361 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: that if they had to go into a playoff game 362 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 3: again against a team that could run the ball that 363 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 3: they got that they'll be all right. 364 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: Game number one, is it to me? 365 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 3: Game number one in Cleveland is a big old, big old, 366 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: big old test because we know what they want to 367 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: do m hm. 368 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: They down your throat. That's what they do in Cleveland. 369 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 3: They coming, baby, they come and for Zim, and I 370 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 3: know I like him personally. I've enjoyed my time around Zim. 371 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: I think in this area, Cowboy fans have a great 372 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 3: respect for Zim. He was on the last coaching staff 373 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 3: that won the Super Bowl around here. But the man 374 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 3: needs talent. We know what he can do with some 375 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 3: talented players. Defensively, he can, he can, he can scheme 376 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 3: it up. Baby, Zim is good along the way, Jerry, 377 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 3: He's left us question marks, not just for Zim, but 378 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 3: for McCarthy as well. How good can this be? This 379 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: is obviously what training camp is about in the games. 380 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 3: I'm just still skeptical because I mean I saw Masi yesterday. 381 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, yeah, Still some work needed to be 382 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 5: done with the big fella. 383 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: There's a lot to be desired that it wasn't shutting 384 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 2: a lot. 385 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 5: No, it's not his game yet, all right, but there's 386 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 5: still things that he can incorporate. 387 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 2: Let's not give up on him. Come on, gods, I 388 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 2: ain't gonna tackle him, but. 389 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 3: No, don't do that to you. 390 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 5: Once again, skeptical, right, yes we are skeptical, and there's 391 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 5: a lot to be and there's a lot to be 392 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 5: skeptical of. And I think no matter who your defensive 393 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 5: coordinator was, it doesn't matter if you hired a young 394 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 5: guy and little known guy, he was going to be 395 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 5: faced with the task of what's hanging over that defense, 396 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 5: and that is stopping the run. And that's why I 397 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 5: throw that question to you about it just being an 398 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 5: attitude of having wanting to stop it and you have. 399 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 5: And I can hear Daniel Craige in the back saying, yeah, 400 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 5: remember you said historic defense, you. 401 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: Know, but what. 402 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 5: But what I know is that when you have a 403 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 5: fourteen SAT guy and another interceptions leader guy that set 404 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 5: the mark with five touchdowns, that's special. And if you're 405 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 5: just building around those pieces and saying to yourself, look, 406 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 5: we're not gonna have a guy out here Jarrun Curse, 407 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 5: that's you know, still playing out a position maybe a 408 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 5: weak spot, maybe not so good against the run, but 409 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 5: better in past zones. We have to incorporate players and 410 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 5: put them in the best position to succeed. 411 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: I just felt like a lot of times guys. 412 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 5: Were freelancing and doing what they wanted, say hero ballan 413 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 5: that's what they call it. 414 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: I mean, you see the run going over there. 415 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 4: Instead of sitting in your gap and making sure you 416 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 4: got contained, let me go ahead and make this tackle. 417 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: Running backs from too good in this league. They'll put 418 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 2: one foot in the ground. 419 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 4: See you made a mistake and that one right where 420 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 4: you just left. I mean so, and that's what marion eelli. 421 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: I mean, kudos to him. 422 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 4: That's what he did a great job of. He made 423 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 4: sure everybody was responsible and accountable. If you got busted 424 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 4: for a big run, you know exactly what happened. I mean, 425 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 4: everybody was in their gap, but this guy was over 426 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 4: here and he called him out. 427 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: And you know, maybe there just wasn't enough of that. 428 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: Last year they won twelve game, yes, and they won 429 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 2: the division. 430 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 3: Now, the big criticism was the teams you lost to 431 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 3: San Francisco right right right, you know, the Buffaloes. 432 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 5: So that you know that's a common denominator in those 433 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 5: five that you're about. 434 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: That what I'm just saying is it's kind of this. 435 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: It's an interesting thing of. 436 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah it worked, but then you know for those playoff 437 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 3: teams and to go deep in the playffs, it didn't happen. 438 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 2: So what's the what's the breakpoint on giving grace to 439 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 2: the way they were playing? It was effective. 440 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: I mean, look, last three years, they've won thirty six 441 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 3: games in the regular season. Only Kansas City's won more. 442 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 3: So it's kind of like, Okay, we can beat them 443 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 3: up a little bit, but at the same time, you 444 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: can't beat them up too much because and that's good football. 445 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy's goes good football. We clearly have seen in 446 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: the playoffs this formula has been failing. 447 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 5: Right, They're getting beat by the same thing, the same formula. 448 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: Right, the same and they haven't fixed it. Yeah, no, 449 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: defensively or offensives. 450 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 3: That's been my thing. Heck of just you haven't fixed it. 451 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 3: And so what they're telling us right now is we're 452 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,479 Speaker 3: going to fix it internally. We're going to say, Mazzie 453 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 3: Smith is going to get better. We're going to use 454 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 3: these guys that are here because they didn't go all in, 455 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 3: they didn't go get anybody. And so that's where my 456 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 3: just concern is, like, Okay, I need to be shown 457 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 3: because I'm off to hope you. 458 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it's a good time. It's a good time 459 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 5: to come off of. It's a good time to come 460 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 5: off of. But the thing is too when you when 461 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,479 Speaker 5: you go back to even Mozzi, why did they draft Mazzie? 462 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 5: Because teams draft guys for who you want to beat, 463 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 5: who you're preparing for, and that is the San Francisco's 464 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 5: of the. 465 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 2: World, the Philadelphia's of the world. 466 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 5: Because you know where you're getting beat, you're getting beat internally. 467 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 5: And he didn't fix the problem. Okay, it didn't matter 468 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 5: if you you drafted a Quentin Bohanna or whoever it was. 469 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 5: That with those big bodies, those space eaters that we've 470 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 5: brought in here, it's still haven't hasn't fixed the problem. 471 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 2: It's an issue. It's an issue, and okay, let's get 472 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 2: a let's get a break in here. 473 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 3: There was a good performance yesterday that had Cowboy fans excited. 474 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: The first day passed it Oxar California. 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All right. 536 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 3: So we spent time talking in the first segment about 537 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 3: Mike Zimmer having the tools he needs on the defensive line, 538 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: mainly the defensive tackle position. 539 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 2: Let's move on over to the offensive line here. 540 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 3: Yesterday, the first day in padded practice, rookie Tyler Geidon 541 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 3: out of Oklahoma and TCU had some nice moments and 542 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 3: many people caught the moment where he was able to 543 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 3: line up against Michael Parsons a couple of times and 544 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 3: and and held his own I look at it two ways. 545 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 2: You guys, tell me how you feel. Number one, this 546 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 2: is good. It beats the alternative. Yes, okay, beats the alternative. 547 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 3: But number three, we know Michael Parson is a competitive person. 548 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 3: So the next time a ran Michael Parson. Okay, now Michael, 549 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 3: he gonna read the clippings. Clippings, but also, oh, okay, 550 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 3: so that's what you're gonna do here, throw this at you. 551 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 2: Here. 552 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 3: It's like in baseball. Oh that's okay. Now you had 553 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 3: that bad Okay, now we see what we can do. 554 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 3: Michael Parsons will strike back. But for Guyiton, afterwards, he said, 555 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 3: you know, I could be better. 556 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 2: You like to hear that. I just don't want fans 557 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 2: to just jump into the church. You can speak to. 558 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 3: This of how you're going to have a good day 559 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 3: and they're going to have a good day. 560 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: You just try to stack as many good days as 561 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 2: you can. Here. This thing is cyclical, so you're happy 562 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: for guiding, but it's just one. 563 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 4: Practice hundred percent. I mean, look, the guy came out there, 564 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 4: and to me, he looked impressive. Now I don't know, 565 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 4: you know too much craziness about the offensive line, but 566 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 4: I mean that guy is massive. 567 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: I mean I was just seeing them on the table. 568 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, this is a giant. 569 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 4: But you know he moved well with his feet, was 570 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 4: able to stay in front of people. You know, he 571 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 4: had good strength out there, wasn't getting bullied back into 572 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 4: the quarterback. So I was impressed for what I've seen. 573 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 4: But you're right now, it's just one practice. I mean, 574 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 4: we used to go in the training camp. First couple 575 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 4: of days of practice, we be tearing Romo up. You know, 576 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 4: those guys were running the wrong roundstal protection over here. 577 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 4: We is confusing them because as a defender, I mean, 578 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 4: you got the you know, a smaller playbook compared to 579 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 4: the offense, and when you installs go in, offenses are 580 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 4: gonna take a little bit of time to catch up. 581 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 4: But after a while, you know, we started going back 582 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 4: and forth and Romo would have his days and defensively 583 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 4: we would have our. So it's great that the young 584 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 4: rookie was able to go out there and show us 585 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 4: at least the raw talent that he has with the 586 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 4: one on ones and being able to just go out 587 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 4: there and said, Okay, this guy has the talent to 588 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 4: do it. Now let's see if he can be consistent 589 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 4: with it, and if he can, you know, jail with 590 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 4: this unit as an offensive line and go forward from there. 591 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: But I wasn't pressed for what I seen day one 592 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 2: from Geiden. 593 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 5: Hey, as Nate Newton called him, he's just the overweight cornerback. 594 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 5: He's on an island by himself, playing man the man 595 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 5: against the guy that has all the tuols, all the moves, everything. 596 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 5: I think for Tyler Geydon, it's gonna be one hundred 597 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 5: percent about his confidence. If his confidence stays high and 598 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 5: he can get those wins, and this offensive line or 599 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 5: this this, this, uh, this offensive play callers can protect 600 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 5: him and not allow him to be set out all 601 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 5: by himself. I think you you're gonna final You're gonna 602 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 5: fall in love with your rookie left tackle. That's good, 603 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 5: I mean, because guys in the league are just too good. 604 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 5: Just keep it real, okay. And we already talked about 605 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 5: yesterday some of the names that he was going to 606 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 5: be facing, and there's no way for four quarters you're 607 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 5: gonna be able to shut down a guy like Miles Garrett. 608 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: I just keep this this for real, okay. 609 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 5: And so his confidence is and just that level of 610 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 5: just understanding the offense, but also confidence within yourself, you're 611 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 5: gonna have bad plays for me. That's what I want 612 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 5: to see how does he respond in a situation after 613 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 5: in the preseason, after he has a bad play, does 614 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 5: he bounce back from that or does he tank? 615 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: Okay, And we've. 616 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 5: Seen so many guys come into the league and they 617 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 5: just never regained their confidence at all whatsoever. And look, 618 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 5: I'm not throwing it like Josh Ball being the name 619 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 5: of a guy that just hadn't there. 620 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: It's just. 621 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 5: It happened, you know, and once it left, it was like, dude, 622 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 5: we saw what got you drafted, We saw all the 623 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 5: tape that you put out there, But that guy never 624 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 5: built his confidence up. And wherever he is right now, 625 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 5: I don't know if he has it right now. But 626 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 5: you know, for Tyler guid And again, that's what it's 627 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 5: going to be about. It's going to be about his 628 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 5: confidence in him just being confident in who he is 629 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 5: as a player and realizing, man, they drafted you where 630 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 5: they drafted you for a reason. 631 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: It's a good first step. It's a good first step. 632 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 3: And to do something to do what he did against 633 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 3: Michael Parsons and have the tape out there, that's good. 634 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: But I think you hit the point. I love the point. 635 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 3: It's consistency. Yeah, you can he do it again and 636 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: do it again, because that's what that's what this league 637 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 3: is about. Can you keep on doing it? And it's 638 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 3: it's the beauty of watching Jerry Rice. You know, he 639 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 3: kept on doing it consistently all the time. It's watching 640 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 3: your uncle Joe Green. You know, Okay, maybe you stopped 641 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 3: Joe once, but can you do it again? They do 642 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: it again, And that's that's what this league is about. 643 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 3: In the great players. 644 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 2: You notice they have the Hall of Famers, they have 645 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: multiple programs. 646 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 3: They'll have one good year, they have another multiple right 647 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 3: you look at Zach Martin and so for him, that's good, 648 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 3: good first day. How do you review the tape you're 649 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 3: talking with Tyler Smith about things because believe me, these 650 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 3: are Michael's social media. 651 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 2: Oh this is okay, right, he will be ready to go. 652 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: So he's reading all of this. Yeah, y'all think the 653 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: bozooka that took a step back. Oh, rookie, rookie got you? 654 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 2: I mean and you know how you know how you guys, that's. 655 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 4: How you feel tying you up again, you talk, especially 656 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 4: when he fell out on the one rip. 657 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 3: That's taking you okay, you know, I mean hook on 658 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 3: you put on your podcast. 659 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: You know it too. And you know it too, you know. 660 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 5: Because film coming, you're gonna circle that. Wow, you see 661 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 5: this play right here? 662 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: You see them guys. Don't let a rookie do this, 663 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 2: especially if you think you're playing. 664 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 3: You let a rookie they want to pass Somebody tell you, 665 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean you if they really want to 666 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: go and Mike and have some fun with this, they. 667 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: Really really could you just don't do it, Mike, go 668 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 2: hit him with the hump. 669 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 5: You know. 670 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 2: Tiler guy's up. 671 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 5: We see the bottom of his shoes and just look, man, 672 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 5: all right, build is comfan this up. 673 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: I know what you're doing. I know what you're doing. 674 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: The Empire will strike back. All I'm saying, we know 675 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: this is coming. And that's the thing. We're fans. Yes, 676 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,479 Speaker 2: this is good, this is good, but just understand, this 677 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 2: is camp. It's long too. 678 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,959 Speaker 3: Okay, So so seven six seven days from now where 679 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 3: you know that that juice you had. 680 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 2: As a rook church you know man, Oh yeah, the 681 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: police quit. You ain't used to that. 682 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 4: I mean, then you go straight from there to meetings 683 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 4: and then you get into bed. Next thing, you know, 684 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,479 Speaker 4: the suns up and you're like, man, we back at 685 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 4: it again. By the day three, it's like, man, that 686 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 4: locker room, it starts to empty out quick, and people 687 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 4: ain't been there as early as they were the first 688 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 4: time when past came on. So, like you said, no, 689 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 4: we just got to see him consistently do this. But 690 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 4: I'm glad what we saw. 691 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 2: That first right. Day one is good. Day one is good. 692 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 2: But I just cautioned the fans of just this. This 693 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 2: is a process. 694 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 3: It's a process, and it's a learning process, and he's 695 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 3: a rookie and he's going to go through it. And 696 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 3: the Cowboys as an organization clearly understand how to develop 697 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 3: offensive line. 698 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 5: But you just think about what we've had for the 699 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 5: last years out there left tackle. We've had Tyron Smith, 700 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 5: and that's just been something you haven't had to worry 701 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 5: about for a very long time. Now, all of a sudden, 702 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 5: you you got a rookie left tackle and behind him 703 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 5: is true, my dog, and I don't think you have 704 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 5: a lot of faith in it in either one. And 705 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 5: so if there's anything to shout about, I think fans 706 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 5: are gonna get excited about Tyler guy and just showing 707 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 5: flashes that oh man, he stopped if he stopped, Michael. 708 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: You know he can stop. 709 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 3: Remember when Tyron is right tackled because they still had 710 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 3: dug Yes. Yeah, so it took him a little a 711 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 3: bit to get over to that side. 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Cowboys practicing right now 776 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,919 Speaker 3: and Dak Prescott leading him down the field and who's 777 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 3: in the backfield number. 778 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 2: Forty l el Boogie. 779 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 3: McCarthy was talking about the running backs today and what 780 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 3: guys are doing and heck you heard a little bit 781 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 3: of it. 782 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 2: Who you know he had his voice went up a 783 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 2: little bit talking about Limky. 784 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 5: That wasn't octave, That wasn't octave. I will, I will 785 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 5: say that Hunter Lipkey and not only him, Bill McLay 786 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 5: is even talking about Hunter Lipkey, so obviously making an 787 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 5: impression on his front office and the coaching static. 788 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to say I should be in play 789 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 3: of personnel, but you know I was out here all 790 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 3: alone on this right now. 791 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 2: And so when Will. 792 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 3: McLay we trusted Will okay, Will's feeling really good about 793 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 3: him and going out of his way to talk about 794 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 3: Mike's talking about all the running backs. And then there's 795 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,919 Speaker 3: a little you know, extra in here for a Hunter Limkey. 796 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 3: When I say, pay attention to what they say and 797 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 3: what they don't say. 798 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, if he's going to be a block fullback or something, 799 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,959 Speaker 2: I'm cool with that. Pick up these protections. Go ahead, 800 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 2: put your shoulder. 801 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 4: But he ain't gonna be nowhere near rock Man, Ain't 802 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 4: nowhere near the football, not with. 803 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 2: Ain't no way there's there's. 804 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 3: First off, we got John Coon what he did in 805 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 3: Green Bay, so we know, we know what he's going 806 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 3: to do, what I think the role he sees him as. 807 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 2: And I think, you know, guys, you got to let 808 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: Miami go. You gotta let it go. 809 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 3: Short is back, What is what is gonna bring to 810 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 3: the table. You know, if there's a third and one 811 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 3: or fourth and one, we've seen Mike you're gonna give 812 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 3: it to Za. 813 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 2: We've seen Mike go ahead and hand it out to 814 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 2: a fullback. So we've seen that happen. 815 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 3: And I know when he was at the one last 816 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 3: year against Miami, hoffed it up right right right. But 817 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 3: do we hold that against the man all his life? 818 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 3: I think that you know, I'm you know, if Dak 819 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 3: Prescott told Cowboy fans get over green Back, you know 820 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 3: you told her Bright that I can get over. I'm 821 00:38:54,120 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 3: just telling you man, clearly, McCarthy are not holding that 822 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 3: Miami against them. They're improvement from the player. So you 823 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 3: guys can sit around here and and and and laugh 824 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 3: at me, and you know, make fun of. 825 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 2: You, said Kyle Check yesterday, you run vote to the greatest. 826 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 2: That's what the vote some names. 827 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 5: So I think that's where your challenge goes from, Newie. 828 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 5: It's not just I mean when we go to hunter 829 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 5: Lyfty just basic nineteen yards last season, right getting. 830 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like you don't need you to be Donald. 831 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 2: That doesn't say terror still ter still rough Rookie sees me. 832 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 2: So I turned around, jay Lon Toba, roughly turn around. 833 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to tell you. 834 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 3: I'm sitting here and I'm just trying to I'm I 835 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 3: already got already got Will McClay sitting up here vouching 836 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 3: for it. 837 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 2: I got McCarthy, and. 838 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 3: I got now my man j Rob five four one say, Newie, 839 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 3: put me as one of your l boogie disciples. 840 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 2: Don't do it, y'all, man, don't do it. Don't do it. 841 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 5: Stop stop the nonsense. Don't hip this man up. Jay Rock, 842 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 5: Jay Rock, come on, my man, don't do this. You 843 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 5: know this is inside of trading, inside of trading, sometimes 844 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 5: it works when it goes up and it goes down 845 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 5: to so you must be shorting the stock here only 846 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 5: because I'm telling you. 847 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 2: Man is j Rob five five five four Man, thank 848 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 2: you for man. We love you, bro, But but stop 849 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:25,280 Speaker 2: the nonsense. 850 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 5: Man. 851 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 2: Man, he's gonna feel in nicely. 852 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 3: If you saw a video right here so clear and 853 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 3: McCarthy's got this man out here running too minutes, so 854 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 3: they got playing. 855 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 2: It's gonna be extra tackle. 856 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 5: Either will live long enough to regret it, and we'll 857 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 5: be praising you all season long. 858 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 2: You know this, This is what we get an opportunity 859 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 2: to do. We do it all the time. We eat 860 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 2: our words. I was like, hey, what what was yours 861 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 2: last season? Jones? Jones? All year long? 862 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:55,760 Speaker 5: Yours by yourself? You heal by yourself? 863 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 3: Really not not if Will McClay is here and Mike mccausey, 864 00:40:58,680 --> 00:40:59,760 Speaker 3: that doesn't make me by myself. 865 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 5: Okay, but you know they'll flip. Let's stop talking about 866 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 5: him real quick. But na, Shawn Wright and what did 867 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 5: I just see it? 868 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 2: What did I just see here? 869 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's in there, he was in We don't know. 870 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 5: The personnel is a two minute drill. Okay, ting up 871 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 5: out of that's it. 872 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 2: Rush, damn ain't picking an boys Roy where Roy's Freeman. 873 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that's what I'm saying. That's I don't 874 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 2: shoot me shoot he could be a grateful that he 875 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 2: sure can. Okay, we go ahead with you. 876 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 5: No, I just you know, look, we were talking about 877 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 5: players that are on the clock, guys that we need 878 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 5: to see have a breakout season. Nay Shwon Wright is 879 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 5: one of those players for me coming out of Oregon State, 880 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 5: uh picking the fourth round, third or fourth round, I believe, 881 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 5: and na Shawn Wright was one of those guys. When 882 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 5: we drafted him, everybody's like, oh, you know what did 883 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 5: we We could have got him in a later round. 884 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 5: You know, he was picked the end of his time 885 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 5: or whatever it was. But he has always been on 886 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 5: the brink. And I think Dan Quinn when he drafted him, 887 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 5: just because of his size six four, two hundred and 888 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 5: fifteen to ten pounds or whatever, you know, he tried 889 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 5: to make him sound like Mail Blant, you know, rich Sherman, 890 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 5: one of those big time cornerbacks. 891 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 2: But man, he has had his opportunity. 892 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 5: I think that this year and it's weird that that 893 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 5: whole class of twenty one is on the clock right now. 894 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,959 Speaker 2: And not only him, but is he Mukuamo. He's another 895 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 2: one of those guys. 896 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 5: I also said Osa Diggi Zoor, Chauncey Golston is on that, 897 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 5: Josh Ball. 898 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 4: Is on it. 899 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 2: It's a lot of guys on the clock right now. 900 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 2: Is for me. I gotta go with Clark on this one. 901 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 4: The linebacker from LSU, you know, further removed from the 902 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 4: injury he had coming in, you know, to the draft 903 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:31,760 Speaker 4: and all that stuff. 904 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 2: And last year it was rough. It was rough back there. 905 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 2: But hopefully he can make that jump. 906 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 4: I know we say hope him a lot on here, 907 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 4: but he got the size, he got the physical attributes 908 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 4: to be a standout linebacker in this league. I just 909 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 4: I was surprised last year we didn't see more of 910 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 4: him being an impact player. I mean, I feel like 911 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 4: we talked more about Bell being on that second level 912 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 4: than Clark, you know, for good or the bad. So 913 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 4: I think this is a year where you got a 914 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 4: guy and Kendrick that might be besides you and it 915 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 4: can help you understand this his Zimmer defense and hopefully 916 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 4: he can take off and get that confidence is going 917 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 4: because right now you know as of last year, he 918 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 4: wasn't getting off any blocks. 919 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 2: There was no shedding. 920 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 4: It was you know, once they got attached to him, 921 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 4: he was like, they have the drafting them all the 922 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 4: way to the en zone. 923 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 2: So that's a player to keep him mad that you know, 924 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 2: he needs to make that jump. 925 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 5: I'm keeping him in mind. But Tomorrowy and Overshawn coming 926 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 5: back from there. I think that's what's gonna pressure. But 927 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 5: I think them drafting the linebacker, I will know the 928 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 5: dame you got some competition. 929 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 2: Now last year at the end of the season, he 930 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 2: didn't really have any. 931 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 5: And I mean you think about the guys that we drafted, 932 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 5: cocks not working out, all those different players that at 933 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 5: the end of the season you're having to move and 934 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 5: it's it was completely by need because obviously the next 935 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 5: neck injury the LVE. But you're right, he's another guy. 936 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,240 Speaker 5: Damon Clark is uh you know, Danny mcray is twisted 937 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 5: in his seat. 938 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 2: They don't like that. 939 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 3: For me, Chauncey Goldsten and Junior for Hoko got to 940 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 3: see something and Tom Landry used to say this, and 941 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,879 Speaker 3: Bill Parcells echoed as well. By year three, we see 942 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:01,240 Speaker 3: something you do. But but for Gohlsten be interesting, especially 943 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 3: now seeing Sam Williams go down, where do they go 944 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:04,399 Speaker 3: with him? 945 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 2: What's his role going to be? 946 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 3: And Junior fair Helcko, who was a dan Quinn favorite, 947 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 3: did not have the kind of rookie season of impact. 948 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 3: And once again let's see what he does in year 949 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 3: number two. But if they're going to be a better 950 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 3: football team, we keep talking about that D line with. 951 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 2: What Mike zimmerniz. These are guys that need to help. 952 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 2: They need to help. 953 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,760 Speaker 5: No this linebacker crew, and like you said with Eric Kendricks, 954 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 5: his impact on that room I think is going to 955 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 5: be paramunt and the success of these guys. And if 956 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 5: you have a big time linebacker like that that can 957 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 5: definitely teach these guys. And you have these young impressionable linebackers, man, 958 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 5: that core can go from you know, bad to really 959 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 5: good in the short period of time with a veteran 960 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 5: like that. So I'm watching that. 961 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 2: Room all right, man. 962 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 3: So there's lots of things that continue to see at 963 00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 3: training camp practice. The optimist should remain for Cowboy fans, 964 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 3: there's still a lot of optimism and so far, and 965 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 3: you hate to lose Sam Williams, especially because of all 966 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 3: the special teams quality uh snaps that he gave you 967 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 3: right there so far, you know, I hadn't seen anything 968 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 3: else happen. 969 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 2: That's the thing. Every day I look at you, Okay, 970 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 2: how's the health coming at it? How's the help? And 971 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 2: it's it's and it's across this league. 972 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 3: It's gonna happen across for you know, Sam Williams, that 973 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 3: happened here, somebody somewhere else is gonna get the same thing. 974 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it's what this league is. 975 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 3: So every time you have these practices, man, when you 976 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 3: could just come out here and nobody's gone for the 977 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 3: year needs an mr this is this is positive stuff. 978 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 2: And looking forward to seeing Digs be. 979 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 3: Able to get back out here full time and hopefully 980 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 3: you'll manage him properly as well. 981 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 2: I think they will, Brown and that training. 982 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 3: Staff does an excellent job to make sure you guys 983 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 3: get back here and and are on pace to help out. 984 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,840 Speaker 3: So we will continue to have these conversations about the cowboys, 985 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 3: what's happening. 986 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 2: In camp Jazz. 987 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 3: When we turn off, can you please when we get 988 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 3: we sin offy, please turn back on that video and 989 00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 3: see the l. 990 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 2: Boogie still out here. My head, my Hairson, very charged, 991 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 2: I'm very sparks for jazz. Everybody part is. This has 992 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 2: been playsune on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 993 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 994 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,399 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.