WEBVTT - Ask Rachel - The Extras 

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're listening to Climbing

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<v Speaker 1>in Heels for your weekly dose of glamour, inspiration and fun. Okay, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm starting to think the podcast should really just be

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<v Speaker 1>me answering listener and follower questions because every time I

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<v Speaker 1>put them up on Instagram, I get so many incredible

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<v Speaker 1>questions and I can't answer them all. So today I've

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<v Speaker 1>pulled some of my favorite questions that I didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to answer, and I'm going to answer many for you today. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>one more thing before we jump into it. We're gearing

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<v Speaker 1>up for season four of the podcasts, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know what guests and topics are important to all

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<v Speaker 1>of you. I love connecting with my podcast community every week,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what you're most interested in.

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<v Speaker 1>So feel free to DM at Climbing in Heels pod

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<v Speaker 1>with any and all ideas. Okay, dream celebrity to style

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<v Speaker 1>dead or alive. Someone really fun who loves fashion and

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<v Speaker 1>can play dress up. Sianna Miller, Ultimate cole Girl Kate Moss.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be iconic. I would die to style of

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<v Speaker 1>Sukie Waterhouse like Dakota Johnson. Just girls that want to

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<v Speaker 1>have fun and dress up and love fashion and don't

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<v Speaker 1>take it too seriously. But like, we'll go there and

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<v Speaker 1>just have some fun. Dead celebrity that i'd want to

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<v Speaker 1>dress god, Audrey Hepburn, Audrey Hepburn, I would definitely say

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<v Speaker 1>that that would be an honor. Okay, So my retirement

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<v Speaker 1>plan now that my life has changed, is it still

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<v Speaker 1>making jewelry on the beach in the south of France.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this listener question because it means you are

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<v Speaker 1>definitely paying attention to what I say, because even my

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<v Speaker 1>kids know that's my retirement plan. No, it hasn't changed,

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<v Speaker 1>I think now more than ever.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the dream is to.

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<v Speaker 1>Buy a chateau in the south of France and have

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<v Speaker 1>my kids and my grandchildren and you know, everyone just

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<v Speaker 1>together while I sit in front of the house on

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<v Speaker 1>the beach making beautiful jewelry in a caftan. That would

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<v Speaker 1>be the plan, with a tan of course, and big sunglasses.

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<v Speaker 2>I have the visual.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what is my advice to someone who wants to

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<v Speaker 1>open a clothing betique?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Sorry, Okay, let's see. I would say

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<v Speaker 2>that's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Very hard business to get into. And I only say

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<v Speaker 1>that because Truthfully, the clothing industry is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>absolute hardest to survive in now more than ever, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think especially now that there's new tariffs that are

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<v Speaker 1>happening outside of this country coming into the country. It's

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are challenges now and over the last

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<v Speaker 1>several years that have made it harder and harder for

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<v Speaker 1>clothing stores to exist. It's even hard for big department

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<v Speaker 1>stores that are heavily funded and multi branded to survive.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't mean to sound negative. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to discourage, but I would say my advice would be

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<v Speaker 1>to start very small and do not overbuy, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>take brands on consignment rather than purchase, because otherwise you

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<v Speaker 1>can be losing a lot of money if no one

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<v Speaker 1>comes into shop. So I'm just being very honest. But

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<v Speaker 1>I also think that e comm is really important. E

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<v Speaker 1>commerce and you know, direct to consumer shopping, so that

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<v Speaker 1>even if you open a store, you can also shop online,

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<v Speaker 1>so that you have two sources of sales at least. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the best role model for dressing up male and female? Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see. Okay, I'm loving Timothy Sallamy right now. My

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<v Speaker 1>male icon for style is tom Ford has always been,

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<v Speaker 1>will always be.

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<v Speaker 2>I know him personally, I know him professionally.

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<v Speaker 1>I know him from afar for as long as I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in this industry, and he has never missed. He's

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<v Speaker 1>never not looked flawless. And every guy meet they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I need style, I need this, I need that. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>look to tom Ford, looked to tom Ford. He's polished,

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<v Speaker 1>he's perfect, he's cool, he's luxury. And you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to buy tom Ford clothing. It's just for the overall. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even if you like don't know what to

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<v Speaker 1>wear to a dinner party or whatever, it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>really good pair of crisp Dunim jeans, a great pair

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<v Speaker 1>of Chelsea boots, and the perfectly fit tailored black blazer

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<v Speaker 1>with a white shirt underneath, no tie, you're great. Like

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, if that can be your uniform and versions

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<v Speaker 1>of that, that's great too. I could go on for

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<v Speaker 1>days about tom Ford, but okay, female role model for

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<v Speaker 1>dressing up, I think it depends on your personal style.

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<v Speaker 2>With women, there's so many.

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<v Speaker 1>Options, but I think if you're sort of polished and uptown,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Kate Middleton flawless, I think Victoria Beckham is

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<v Speaker 1>always perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Who else do I just love love? I think Gwyneth

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<v Speaker 1>is always really nice. I think it depends on your age,

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<v Speaker 1>it depends on your style. Like if you're an effortless

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<v Speaker 1>cool girl that does want to try too hard, look

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<v Speaker 1>to Sianna Miller, look to Kate Moss, look to Daisy

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<v Speaker 1>Edgar Jones, look to Dakota Johnson, like there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>style icons out there. I also love, obviously Nicole Kibman perfection,

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<v Speaker 1>Martha Story. She looks so good, she looks I can't,

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<v Speaker 1>she looks amazing. Okay, Okay, Now you support Baby to Baby?

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<v Speaker 1>What other philanthropic causes to support?

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<v Speaker 2>Many?

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<v Speaker 1>So Baby to Baby is my number one. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>on the board since it's started. I think we're on

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen years now of Baby to Baby and now it's

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<v Speaker 1>Baby to Baby start as a local organization helping babies

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<v Speaker 1>and children and families under the poverty line, and now

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<v Speaker 1>we are pretty much first on the ground in disaster relief,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's tornadoes, fires, hurricanes all over the country and

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<v Speaker 1>even abroad in certain cases. I am involved in something

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<v Speaker 1>called the Cost Foundation, which works with pediatric cancer hospital

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Jude's Children's Hospital in Los Angeles, also the Mattel

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<v Speaker 1>Children's Hospital UCLA, and a Sense of Home and that

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<v Speaker 1>is helping to build homes for people who have aged out,

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<v Speaker 1>kids that have aged out of the foster care system

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<v Speaker 1>and helping them get back onto their feet and start

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<v Speaker 1>their lives as they get jobs and things like that

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<v Speaker 1>because no one really looks after them. And then also

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<v Speaker 1>Core Core is Champin's foundation that he started in the

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<v Speaker 1>hurricane that pretty much destroyed Haiti and it has now

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<v Speaker 1>spun out into also the most incredible organization that's also

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<v Speaker 1>literally boots on the ground in any disaster.

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<v Speaker 2>COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>They were heroic the fires Ukraine Russia situation. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they're amazing, truly amazing, and that's been an honor to

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of as well. Oh and also BCRF

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<v Speaker 1>Breast Cancer Research Foundation o cr F Ovarian and also

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<v Speaker 1>F which is Women's Cancer Research Foundation. So many I

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<v Speaker 1>actually co designed and collaborated with a very dear friend

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<v Speaker 1>Briany Raymond. She's been on climbing and heels. She's a

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant jewelry designer. She also deals vintage in a state

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<v Speaker 1>designer jewelry as well, and we designed and collaborated on

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<v Speaker 1>this incredible pendant that I wear every single day. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a gold and also the option of gold with

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<v Speaker 1>diamonds in different sizes. They are the most beautiful angel

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<v Speaker 1>wings and they're called the Golden Wings of Strength. And

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent of the proceeds of every single piece,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can get your custom you can engrave it,

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<v Speaker 1>and one hundred percent of the proceeds goes to Baby

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<v Speaker 1>to Baby and also California Fires Benevolent. So whichever cause

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<v Speaker 1>you choose to support, it's up to you. But I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot tell you how much I love mine. I wear

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<v Speaker 1>them every single day. It's these gorgeous wings, angel wings,

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<v Speaker 1>and they kind of form the shape of this very cool,

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<v Speaker 1>imperfect heart. Okay, biggest advice for a new mom, I mean, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>my best advice I could give you is don't take

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<v Speaker 1>people's advice, because so many people feel this need and

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<v Speaker 1>write to tell you everything about what to do and

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<v Speaker 1>what you shouldn't do, and oh my god, don't put

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<v Speaker 1>your baby in the bed with you, don't keep the

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<v Speaker 1>kids in the room with you, don't do this, make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you let them cry it out like da da dah,

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<v Speaker 1>don't give them peanut butter, don't you know. And the

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<v Speaker 1>truth is the funniest thing. I did not listen to

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<v Speaker 1>one person. I actually did the polar opposite of what

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<v Speaker 1>my mom friends at the time, most of them, not

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<v Speaker 1>all of them. I kind of just went the other

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<v Speaker 1>way because it felt unnatural to me. And I still

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<v Speaker 1>put my kids to sleep every night. I still I

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<v Speaker 1>wake up with kids in my bed half the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you have a very small window of when

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<v Speaker 1>you have those kids next to you at all times.

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<v Speaker 1>And my only advice that I would leave you with is,

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<v Speaker 1>don't miss that window. Hold onto that window, because when

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<v Speaker 1>it's gone, it's gone, and you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Get it back.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Goals for twenty twenty five, Well, I had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of goals going into twenty twenty five, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the day after I came home with like guns of

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<v Speaker 1>blazing so excited, danced on tables into the new year,

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<v Speaker 1>the wildfires broke out across Los Angeles and that was

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<v Speaker 1>really a curve ball I think none of us were

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<v Speaker 1>prepared for. So it definitely started the year off differently,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think weirdly focused all of us in a

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<v Speaker 1>different way and I think it just sort of forced

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<v Speaker 1>all of us here in LA to sort of just

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<v Speaker 1>be like, Okay, just go just be happy. Whatever you're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>just do it, and like live your life as it's

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<v Speaker 1>coming to you right now.

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<v Speaker 2>My goals.

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<v Speaker 1>Once that's sort of cleared and I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>go away I'm out of LA and spend some time

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<v Speaker 1>honestly in nature in the mountains, it was pretty game

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<v Speaker 1>changing for me. I woke up every day filled with gratitude,

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<v Speaker 1>like endless gratitude just for my life and what was

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<v Speaker 1>given to me, because I think we get very lost

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<v Speaker 1>in the things that don't work out, or the things

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<v Speaker 1>that we didn't get, or the things that like you,

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<v Speaker 1>why me? Why is this coming at me right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Why this? Why that?

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<v Speaker 1>And instead I just went at it like, Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>happy for this, I'm grateful for this, and I'm really blessed.

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<v Speaker 1>And now my goals have shifted in twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>and they've really just landed in this place of peace,

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<v Speaker 1>of this place of I'm going to start the rowing

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<v Speaker 1>my hands in the air and letting the universe do

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<v Speaker 1>what it's doing. I can obviously nudge it one way

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<v Speaker 1>or another. I can put my efforts in one direction

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<v Speaker 1>or another. But I think for the first time in

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<v Speaker 1>my life, I'm sort of surrendering a little bit to

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<v Speaker 1>what will be will be, and it's very freeing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>happier than I've been in a really long time, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just going day by day and feeling all

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<v Speaker 1>the feels and moving through it. Okay, what's my first

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<v Speaker 1>What is my first memory? My first memory? God, it's funny,

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<v Speaker 1>it's weird. It's hard to know when pictures of things

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<v Speaker 1>from when you're very young trigger a certain memory. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's this one picture I have of me in this

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<v Speaker 1>dress that was literally my favorite dress, and I remember

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<v Speaker 1>it like it was yesterday, and I wore it, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>until it became like a mini dress. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>a mac dress, kind of looks a little bit like

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<v Speaker 1>an Aussie Clark's seventies dress.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wore it so much.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember wearing it one day and asking my

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<v Speaker 1>dad to take a picture of me in it because

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it. And I also remember things that when

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the first concert I went to with

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<v Speaker 1>my parents, and the music was so loud that my

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<v Speaker 1>dad had to take me outside and carry me the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time because I just couldn't go inside because it

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<v Speaker 1>was too loud, and I had to have these things

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<v Speaker 1>over my ears that would like protect them. And I

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<v Speaker 1>guess now that's why you see kids with like headsets

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<v Speaker 1>at concerts.

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<v Speaker 2>But I remember that very well.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also remember being at this place in Florida

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<v Speaker 1>on this beach and collecting shells and SeaGlass with my

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<v Speaker 1>parents on the beach and my sister, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>remember that so so clearly, and I must have been

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<v Speaker 1>maybe three or four years old. So best foundation for

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<v Speaker 1>long wear, you know, I I have been using. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of foundations. Listen, a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 1>do my makeup. They all use different things, and the

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<v Speaker 1>foundations vary, but there are definitely constants, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>say that clod Depo is one of the best.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I have fallen in love with using a stick foundation

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<v Speaker 1>because it's easier because I'm always on the go and

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<v Speaker 1>it takes two seconds and it doesn't get all over

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<v Speaker 1>me and it doesn't spill in my bag. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with this hour glass stick foundation that is just

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<v Speaker 1>so easy. It stays on, it's dewey. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Charlotte Tulberry Foundation. It's great. I also love

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<v Speaker 1>cl Nikki Deuro's line, and a lot of makeup artists

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<v Speaker 1>have been coming to do my makeup using that, which

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<v Speaker 1>I love because she's a dear friend, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>love when you know, I see them supporting friends.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great.

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<v Speaker 1>And Merit Merit foundation stick is so good. If you

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<v Speaker 1>have not used it, do not let the clean factor

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<v Speaker 1>scare you. It stays on and it's so good and

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<v Speaker 1>it's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>In volvity.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, One place I haven't traveled that I want to see,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, there's so many. Definitely certain parts of

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<v Speaker 1>Spain for sure. I have not spent enough time there.

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<v Speaker 1>I've gone there for work, but I haven't really spent

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<v Speaker 1>time there. I've not been to Majorca, and I'm dying

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<v Speaker 1>to go. Also, places in Italy I have not gone to,

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<v Speaker 1>like Capri I have not been to, which is wild,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, makes absolutely no sense. I mean, maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just going to go to Italy and stay there possibly,

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<v Speaker 1>and certain places in France for sure. I mean just Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very europe obsessed. I'm very I could spend years there.

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<v Speaker 1>My boys are dying to go to Japan. They are

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<v Speaker 1>dying to go to Japan. I actually went with Cameron Diaz,

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<v Speaker 1>but like for maybe twenty four hours. So again, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're traveling as a stylist, you're in a place you

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<v Speaker 1>basically see the airport to the hotel, and the hotel

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<v Speaker 1>to the airport, So it's like, you know, sight seeing

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<v Speaker 1>from a car.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes a good summer hot.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Eres I love Genesa Leon, I love Eugenia Kim.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Philip Tracy. Those are just a few, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many good ones. Best skincare tip for someone

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<v Speaker 1>in their late thirties God hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. Get out

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<v Speaker 1>of the sun. Get out of the sun, says the

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<v Speaker 1>sun worshiper. But I can tell you my friends that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't sit in the sun versus me, who did? I

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<v Speaker 1>promise you You will thank me later. You will spend a

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<v Speaker 1>lot less money and a lot less time repairing your skin.

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<v Speaker 1>But late thirties, I would say, start to do all

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<v Speaker 1>the things in your late thirties, start to do all

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<v Speaker 1>the things that stimulate your collagen, all the things that

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<v Speaker 1>are not invasive that stimulate your own collagen, and do

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<v Speaker 1>all the good things without having to do anything drastic,

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<v Speaker 1>because the more you do in your thirties, the less

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<v Speaker 1>you do later because there's so many advances. Now, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>best sunnis for spring summer. I mean, I'm gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>rachel Zo sonnis. I haven't stopped wearing them since I

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<v Speaker 1>got the samples. Totally unbiased though, because I wouldn't say

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<v Speaker 1>that unless I meant it other than that. Tom Ford

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<v Speaker 1>all the way, am I spiritual person? I'm a very

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual person. Actually, I would definitely confidently say I am

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<v Speaker 1>not a religious person, but I am most definitely a

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual person. I believe very much in believe very much

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<v Speaker 1>in going to sleep at night feeling good and feeling

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<v Speaker 1>like you have treated people the way you want to

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<v Speaker 1>treat them, and feeling like you that you did good

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't. It's like it's not about that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not for any kind of a war, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like.

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<v Speaker 1>We are only as good as we are in this world.

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<v Speaker 1>We are only as good.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>A friend was thanking me for showing up to something

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday night. She started crying when I walked in,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said to her, you don't have to say anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I know exactly what you mean when people show up

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<v Speaker 1>for you, and you know how annoying it can be

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes on a rainy Friday night to go to something

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes away to show up for a friend. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not something I'm paid for. It's not something that like

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<v Speaker 1>I need to do for anything for me for my purposes.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do understand the power of showing up for people.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not because I want them to show up

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<v Speaker 1>for me, because I actually anyone on my team will

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<v Speaker 1>tell you I never expect anyone to show up for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I very rarely ask people to do anything or show

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<v Speaker 1>up for anything, because it makes me uncomfortable. However, I

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<v Speaker 1>do feel that all we have in this life is

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<v Speaker 1>who we are as people, and who we are at

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<v Speaker 1>our foundation and our core, and how good we are

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<v Speaker 1>and the decisions we make, and how honest we are

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<v Speaker 1>and kind we are, and how much we can help

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<v Speaker 1>because we are blessed, many of us more blessed than others,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it tends to bother me people that

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<v Speaker 1>are so gifted with so much and have so much

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<v Speaker 1>and don't give anything back to anyone, and that has

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<v Speaker 1>always bothered me, even as a young child. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm trying to be a saint. It's just there

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<v Speaker 1>is this desire that I have in my soul to

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<v Speaker 1>just help when I can and do what I can.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to do more, but.

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<v Speaker 1>All we have is who we are as people, what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of people we are, and how we show up

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<v Speaker 1>for our people we love and our friends, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think that's invaluable. So that's just that's just me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not judging if that's not how everyone else is,

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<v Speaker 1>but but yeah, that's my that's my answer. Okay, thanks

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