1 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're listening to Climbing 2 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: in Heels for your weekly dose of glamour, inspiration and fun. Okay, guys, 3 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: I'm starting to think the podcast should really just be 4 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: me answering listener and follower questions because every time I 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: put them up on Instagram, I get so many incredible 6 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: questions and I can't answer them all. So today I've 7 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: pulled some of my favorite questions that I didn't get 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: to answer, and I'm going to answer many for you today. Okay, 9 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: one more thing before we jump into it. We're gearing 10 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: up for season four of the podcasts, and I want 11 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: to know what guests and topics are important to all 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: of you. I love connecting with my podcast community every week, 13 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: and I want to. 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: Know what you're most interested in. 15 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: So feel free to DM at Climbing in Heels pod 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: with any and all ideas. Okay, dream celebrity to style 17 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: dead or alive. Someone really fun who loves fashion and 18 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: can play dress up. Sianna Miller, Ultimate cole Girl Kate Moss. 19 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: That would be iconic. I would die to style of 20 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: Sukie Waterhouse like Dakota Johnson. Just girls that want to 21 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: have fun and dress up and love fashion and don't 22 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: take it too seriously. But like, we'll go there and 23 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: just have some fun. Dead celebrity that i'd want to 24 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: dress god, Audrey Hepburn, Audrey Hepburn, I would definitely say 25 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: that that would be an honor. Okay, So my retirement 26 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: plan now that my life has changed, is it still 27 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: making jewelry on the beach in the south of France. 28 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: I love this listener question because it means you are 29 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: definitely paying attention to what I say, because even my 30 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: kids know that's my retirement plan. No, it hasn't changed, 31 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: I think now more than ever. 32 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: I think the dream is to. 33 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: Buy a chateau in the south of France and have 34 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: my kids and my grandchildren and you know, everyone just 35 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: together while I sit in front of the house on 36 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: the beach making beautiful jewelry in a caftan. That would 37 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: be the plan, with a tan of course, and big sunglasses. 38 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: I have the visual. 39 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: Okay, what is my advice to someone who wants to 40 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: open a clothing betique? 41 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. Sorry, Okay, let's see. I would say 42 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 2: that's a. 43 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: Very hard business to get into. And I only say 44 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: that because Truthfully, the clothing industry is one of the 45 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: absolute hardest to survive in now more than ever, and 46 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: I think especially now that there's new tariffs that are 47 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: happening outside of this country coming into the country. It's 48 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: I think there are challenges now and over the last 49 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: several years that have made it harder and harder for 50 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: clothing stores to exist. It's even hard for big department 51 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: stores that are heavily funded and multi branded to survive. 52 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: So I don't mean to sound negative. I don't want 53 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: to discourage, but I would say my advice would be 54 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: to start very small and do not overbuy, and maybe 55 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: take brands on consignment rather than purchase, because otherwise you 56 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: can be losing a lot of money if no one 57 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: comes into shop. So I'm just being very honest. But 58 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: I also think that e comm is really important. E 59 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: commerce and you know, direct to consumer shopping, so that 60 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: even if you open a store, you can also shop online, 61 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: so that you have two sources of sales at least. Okay, 62 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: who's the best role model for dressing up male and female? Honestly, 63 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: let's see. Okay, I'm loving Timothy Sallamy right now. My 64 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: male icon for style is tom Ford has always been, 65 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: will always be. 66 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: I know him personally, I know him professionally. 67 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: I know him from afar for as long as I've 68 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: been in this industry, and he has never missed. He's 69 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: never not looked flawless. And every guy meet they're like, 70 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: I need style, I need this, I need that. I'm like, 71 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: look to tom Ford, looked to tom Ford. He's polished, 72 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: he's perfect, he's cool, he's luxury. And you don't have 73 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: to buy tom Ford clothing. It's just for the overall. Like, 74 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: you know, even if you like don't know what to 75 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: wear to a dinner party or whatever, it's like a 76 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: really good pair of crisp Dunim jeans, a great pair 77 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: of Chelsea boots, and the perfectly fit tailored black blazer 78 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: with a white shirt underneath, no tie, you're great. Like 79 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: It's like, if that can be your uniform and versions 80 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: of that, that's great too. I could go on for 81 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: days about tom Ford, but okay, female role model for 82 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: dressing up, I think it depends on your personal style. 83 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: With women, there's so many. 84 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: Options, but I think if you're sort of polished and uptown, 85 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: I mean Kate Middleton flawless, I think Victoria Beckham is 86 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: always perfect. 87 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 2: I think. 88 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: Who else do I just love love? I think Gwyneth 89 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,119 Speaker 1: is always really nice. I think it depends on your age, 90 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: it depends on your style. Like if you're an effortless 91 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: cool girl that does want to try too hard, look 92 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: to Sianna Miller, look to Kate Moss, look to Daisy 93 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: Edgar Jones, look to Dakota Johnson, like there's so many 94 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: style icons out there. I also love, obviously Nicole Kibman perfection, 95 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,119 Speaker 1: Martha Story. She looks so good, she looks I can't, 96 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: she looks amazing. Okay, Okay, Now you support Baby to Baby? 97 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: What other philanthropic causes to support? 98 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: Many? 99 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: So Baby to Baby is my number one. I've been 100 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: on the board since it's started. I think we're on 101 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: fourteen years now of Baby to Baby and now it's 102 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: Baby to Baby start as a local organization helping babies 103 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: and children and families under the poverty line, and now 104 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: we are pretty much first on the ground in disaster relief, 105 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: whether it's tornadoes, fires, hurricanes all over the country and 106 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: even abroad in certain cases. I am involved in something 107 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: called the Cost Foundation, which works with pediatric cancer hospital 108 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: Saint Jude's Children's Hospital in Los Angeles, also the Mattel 109 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: Children's Hospital UCLA, and a Sense of Home and that 110 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: is helping to build homes for people who have aged out, 111 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: kids that have aged out of the foster care system 112 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: and helping them get back onto their feet and start 113 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: their lives as they get jobs and things like that 114 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: because no one really looks after them. And then also 115 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: Core Core is Champin's foundation that he started in the 116 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: hurricane that pretty much destroyed Haiti and it has now 117 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: spun out into also the most incredible organization that's also 118 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: literally boots on the ground in any disaster. 119 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: COVID. 120 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: They were heroic the fires Ukraine Russia situation. I mean, 121 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: they're amazing, truly amazing, and that's been an honor to 122 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: be a part of as well. Oh and also BCRF 123 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: Breast Cancer Research Foundation o cr F Ovarian and also 124 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: F which is Women's Cancer Research Foundation. So many I 125 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: actually co designed and collaborated with a very dear friend 126 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: Briany Raymond. She's been on climbing and heels. She's a 127 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: brilliant jewelry designer. She also deals vintage in a state 128 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: designer jewelry as well, and we designed and collaborated on 129 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: this incredible pendant that I wear every single day. It 130 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: is a gold and also the option of gold with 131 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: diamonds in different sizes. They are the most beautiful angel 132 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: wings and they're called the Golden Wings of Strength. And 133 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the proceeds of every single piece, 134 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: and you can get your custom you can engrave it, 135 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: and one hundred percent of the proceeds goes to Baby 136 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: to Baby and also California Fires Benevolent. So whichever cause 137 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: you choose to support, it's up to you. But I 138 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: cannot tell you how much I love mine. I wear 139 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: them every single day. It's these gorgeous wings, angel wings, 140 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: and they kind of form the shape of this very cool, 141 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: imperfect heart. Okay, biggest advice for a new mom, I mean, honestly, 142 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: my best advice I could give you is don't take 143 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: people's advice, because so many people feel this need and 144 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: write to tell you everything about what to do and 145 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: what you shouldn't do, and oh my god, don't put 146 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: your baby in the bed with you, don't keep the 147 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: kids in the room with you, don't do this, make 148 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: sure you let them cry it out like da da dah, 149 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: don't give them peanut butter, don't you know. And the 150 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: truth is the funniest thing. I did not listen to 151 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: one person. I actually did the polar opposite of what 152 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: my mom friends at the time, most of them, not 153 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: all of them. I kind of just went the other 154 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: way because it felt unnatural to me. And I still 155 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 1: put my kids to sleep every night. I still I 156 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: wake up with kids in my bed half the time. 157 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: I think you have a very small window of when 158 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: you have those kids next to you at all times. 159 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: And my only advice that I would leave you with is, 160 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: don't miss that window. Hold onto that window, because when 161 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: it's gone, it's gone, and you don't. 162 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: Get it back. 163 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: Okay, Goals for twenty twenty five, Well, I had a 164 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: lot of goals going into twenty twenty five, and then 165 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: the day after I came home with like guns of 166 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: blazing so excited, danced on tables into the new year, 167 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: the wildfires broke out across Los Angeles and that was 168 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: really a curve ball I think none of us were 169 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: prepared for. So it definitely started the year off differently, 170 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: and I think weirdly focused all of us in a 171 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: different way and I think it just sort of forced 172 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: all of us here in LA to sort of just 173 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, just go just be happy. Whatever you're doing, 174 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: just do it, and like live your life as it's 175 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: coming to you right now. 176 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 2: My goals. 177 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: Once that's sort of cleared and I was able to 178 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: go away I'm out of LA and spend some time 179 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: honestly in nature in the mountains, it was pretty game 180 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: changing for me. I woke up every day filled with gratitude, 181 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: like endless gratitude just for my life and what was 182 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: given to me, because I think we get very lost 183 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: in the things that don't work out, or the things 184 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: that we didn't get, or the things that like you, 185 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: why me? Why is this coming at me right now? 186 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: Why this? Why that? 187 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: And instead I just went at it like, Okay, I'm 188 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: happy for this, I'm grateful for this, and I'm really blessed. 189 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: And now my goals have shifted in twenty twenty five 190 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: and they've really just landed in this place of peace, 191 00:11:55,520 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: of this place of I'm going to start the rowing 192 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: my hands in the air and letting the universe do 193 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: what it's doing. I can obviously nudge it one way 194 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: or another. I can put my efforts in one direction 195 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: or another. But I think for the first time in 196 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: my life, I'm sort of surrendering a little bit to 197 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: what will be will be, and it's very freeing. I'm 198 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: happier than I've been in a really long time, and 199 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, just going day by day and feeling all 200 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: the feels and moving through it. Okay, what's my first 201 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: What is my first memory? My first memory? God, it's funny, 202 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: it's weird. It's hard to know when pictures of things 203 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: from when you're very young trigger a certain memory. But 204 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: there's this one picture I have of me in this 205 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: dress that was literally my favorite dress, and I remember 206 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: it like it was yesterday, and I wore it, I think, 207 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: until it became like a mini dress. It was like 208 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: a mac dress, kind of looks a little bit like 209 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: an Aussie Clark's seventies dress. 210 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: And I wore it so much. 211 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: And I remember wearing it one day and asking my 212 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: dad to take a picture of me in it because 213 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: I loved it. And I also remember things that when 214 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: I went to the first concert I went to with 215 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: my parents, and the music was so loud that my 216 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: dad had to take me outside and carry me the 217 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: whole time because I just couldn't go inside because it 218 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: was too loud, and I had to have these things 219 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: over my ears that would like protect them. And I 220 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: guess now that's why you see kids with like headsets 221 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: at concerts. 222 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 2: But I remember that very well. 223 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: And I also remember being at this place in Florida 224 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: on this beach and collecting shells and SeaGlass with my 225 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: parents on the beach and my sister, and I just 226 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: remember that so so clearly, and I must have been 227 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: maybe three or four years old. So best foundation for 228 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: long wear, you know, I I have been using. There's 229 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: a lot of foundations. Listen, a lot of people that 230 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: do my makeup. They all use different things, and the 231 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: foundations vary, but there are definitely constants, and I would 232 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: say that clod Depo is one of the best. 233 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: I would say for me. 234 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: I have fallen in love with using a stick foundation 235 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: because it's easier because I'm always on the go and 236 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: it takes two seconds and it doesn't get all over 237 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: me and it doesn't spill in my bag. And I'm 238 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: obsessed with this hour glass stick foundation that is just 239 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: so easy. It stays on, it's dewey. I love it. 240 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: I love Charlotte Tulberry Foundation. It's great. I also love 241 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: cl Nikki Deuro's line, and a lot of makeup artists 242 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: have been coming to do my makeup using that, which 243 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: I love because she's a dear friend, and so I 244 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: love when you know, I see them supporting friends. 245 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: It's great. 246 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: And Merit Merit foundation stick is so good. If you 247 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: have not used it, do not let the clean factor 248 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: scare you. It stays on and it's so good and 249 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: it's nice. 250 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: In volvity. 251 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: Okay, One place I haven't traveled that I want to see, 252 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's so many. Definitely certain parts of 253 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: Spain for sure. I have not spent enough time there. 254 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: I've gone there for work, but I haven't really spent 255 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: time there. I've not been to Majorca, and I'm dying 256 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: to go. Also, places in Italy I have not gone to, 257 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: like Capri I have not been to, which is wild, 258 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: I know, makes absolutely no sense. I mean, maybe I'm 259 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: just going to go to Italy and stay there possibly, 260 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: and certain places in France for sure. I mean just Europe. 261 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm very europe obsessed. I'm very I could spend years there. 262 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: My boys are dying to go to Japan. They are 263 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: dying to go to Japan. I actually went with Cameron Diaz, 264 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: but like for maybe twenty four hours. So again, when 265 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: you're traveling as a stylist, you're in a place you 266 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: basically see the airport to the hotel, and the hotel 267 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: to the airport, So it's like, you know, sight seeing 268 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: from a car. 269 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: It makes a good summer hot. 270 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: I love Eres I love Genesa Leon, I love Eugenia Kim. 271 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: I love Philip Tracy. Those are just a few, but 272 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: there's so many good ones. Best skincare tip for someone 273 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: in their late thirties God hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. Get out 274 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: of the sun. Get out of the sun, says the 275 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: sun worshiper. But I can tell you my friends that 276 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: didn't sit in the sun versus me, who did? I 277 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: promise you You will thank me later. You will spend a 278 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: lot less money and a lot less time repairing your skin. 279 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: But late thirties, I would say, start to do all 280 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: the things in your late thirties, start to do all 281 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: the things that stimulate your collagen, all the things that 282 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: are not invasive that stimulate your own collagen, and do 283 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: all the good things without having to do anything drastic, 284 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: because the more you do in your thirties, the less 285 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: you do later because there's so many advances. Now, okay, 286 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: best sunnis for spring summer. I mean, I'm gonna say, 287 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: rachel Zo sonnis. I haven't stopped wearing them since I 288 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: got the samples. Totally unbiased though, because I wouldn't say 289 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: that unless I meant it other than that. Tom Ford 290 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: all the way, am I spiritual person? I'm a very 291 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: spiritual person. Actually, I would definitely confidently say I am 292 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: not a religious person, but I am most definitely a 293 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: spiritual person. I believe very much in believe very much 294 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: in going to sleep at night feeling good and feeling 295 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: like you have treated people the way you want to 296 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: treat them, and feeling like you that you did good 297 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: like I don't. It's like it's not about that. It's 298 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: not for any kind of a war, you know. 299 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: It's like. 300 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: We are only as good as we are in this world. 301 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: We are only as good. 302 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 2: You know. 303 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: A friend was thanking me for showing up to something 304 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: on Friday night. She started crying when I walked in, 305 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: and I said to her, you don't have to say anything. 306 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: I know exactly what you mean when people show up 307 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: for you, and you know how annoying it can be 308 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: sometimes on a rainy Friday night to go to something 309 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: thirty minutes away to show up for a friend. It's 310 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: not something I'm paid for. It's not something that like 311 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 1: I need to do for anything for me for my purposes. 312 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: But I do understand the power of showing up for people. 313 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,959 Speaker 1: And it's not because I want them to show up 314 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: for me, because I actually anyone on my team will 315 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: tell you I never expect anyone to show up for me. 316 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: I very rarely ask people to do anything or show 317 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: up for anything, because it makes me uncomfortable. However, I 318 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: do feel that all we have in this life is 319 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: who we are as people, and who we are at 320 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: our foundation and our core, and how good we are 321 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: and the decisions we make, and how honest we are 322 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: and kind we are, and how much we can help 323 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: because we are blessed, many of us more blessed than others, 324 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: and I think it tends to bother me people that 325 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: are so gifted with so much and have so much 326 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: and don't give anything back to anyone, and that has 327 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: always bothered me, even as a young child. It's not 328 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: because I'm trying to be a saint. It's just there 329 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: is this desire that I have in my soul to 330 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: just help when I can and do what I can. 331 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 2: I'd like to do more, but. 332 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: All we have is who we are as people, what 333 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: kind of people we are, and how we show up 334 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: for our people we love and our friends, and I. 335 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: Think that's invaluable. So that's just that's just me. 336 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: I'm not judging if that's not how everyone else is, 337 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: but but yeah, that's my that's my answer. Okay, thanks 338 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: so much for listening to Climbing and Heels. 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