Speaker 1: Welcome to season four of Fowler Who You Got. I
Speaker 1: really appreciate the support for our first three seasons. We've
Speaker 1: got another very strong season ahead for you. We kick
Speaker 1: it off with two episodes on the Super Bowl experience
Speaker 1: from various angles. This is part one, what it feels
Speaker 1: like to play in the ultimate game, to win it
Speaker 1: and to lose it. In part two, the pressures and
Speaker 1: the pride of refereeing the Super Bowl and producing the
Speaker 1: halftime shows the most watched musical performance of the year.
Speaker 1: We'll hear about Prince Springsteen, The Stones, among others. So
Speaker 1: imagine this movie script. Twin brothers playing football together. They're
Speaker 1: not highly recruited. They end up at a program that
Speaker 1: is really struggling, not even thinking about the NFL, but
Speaker 1: they helped resurrect their home state team, and on draft
Speaker 1: day they each hear their name called except one. Twin
Speaker 1: brother is the first round pick of an elite franchise.
Speaker 1: He plays with the greatest quarterback ever, wins a couple
Speaker 1: of Super Bowls. The older brother suffers through losing season
Speaker 1: after losing season, including the unthinkable that owen sixteen years.
Speaker 1: Then suddenly the twins are reunited as starters in the
Speaker 1: same defensive backfield and together they share in a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl triumph. All right, that sounds maybe a little too
Speaker 1: far fetched, except it happened to my guests, Devin and
Speaker 1: Jason mccordy. No one would have thought, you know, those
Speaker 1: two kids coming out of high school would be sitting
Speaker 1: on a set in the Super Bowl talking about being
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions like it was just it was unheard of.
Speaker 1: So I think for us, you know obviously to go
Speaker 1: through college then our NFL journeys and to be there
Speaker 1: together when my mom who has been the driving force,
Speaker 1: and us being football players men, Dace has like everything
Speaker 1: to share that, you know, I think was I think
Speaker 1: why athletes chimp pete while we go through the different things,
Speaker 1: Why do we play through injuries? To me, it is
Speaker 1: for those moments be able to share them with the
Speaker 1: people you love, And that was our mom, our wives
Speaker 1: and our kids. Yeah, my mom was in the confetti
Speaker 1: doing confetti angels were all of our grandkids. We still
Speaker 1: we still have that video. So that that was kind
Speaker 1: of the the vibe of everything now was going on
Speaker 1: after the game, how they arrived at that amazing moment,
Speaker 1: all that went into it, the winding paths that each
Speaker 1: of them took. Make sure of some great stories beautifully
Speaker 1: told in one of the most enjoyable sports conversations I've
Speaker 1: ever had. They'll also tell us what the Bengals and
Speaker 1: Rams should know about playing in Super Bowl fifties six
Speaker 1: and get some predictions. No surprise, these very competitive brothers
Speaker 1: pick different sides. You'll love this. The mccordy twins, Devon
Speaker 1: and Jason, well, Devon and Jason, appreciate your time. This
Speaker 1: is fun. I'm fascinated by brotherly relationships, especially twin relationships.
Speaker 1: So your guys journey through football is I think really unique.
Speaker 1: We have we have this in common. Two thousand and six,
Speaker 1: you guys are early in your careers at Rutgers and
Speaker 1: for those listings have don't understand. Rutgers was good. Rutgers
Speaker 1: had good teams, and you guys were kind of there
Speaker 1: at the beginning of that in the Big East. In
Speaker 1: the two thousand and six in came Louisville ranked number three.
Speaker 1: Scarlet Knights were having a great season, undefeated at the time,
Speaker 1: and we were hyped to call this Thursday game and
Speaker 1: it was neat to be at the birthplace of college
Speaker 1: football and the energy around that and you guys as
Speaker 1: Jersey kids. I remember they were all hyped up. These
Speaker 1: two guys from Jersey. Not big recruits, but man, they're ballers,
Speaker 1: they can play, and they're twins. And we had gotten
Speaker 1: we had gotten coached up on that. So you guys
Speaker 1: being a part of that game, um which I call
Speaker 1: pandamoney and piscataway, Jason, take take me through that experience
Speaker 1: of kind of being a part of building Ruckers football. Man.
Speaker 1: It's funny because we just got a chance to talk
Speaker 1: to Harry Douglas last week. Cool was on that Louisville
Speaker 1: team was a wide receiver and then I'll play with
Speaker 1: Harry and Tennessee. Uh when the Tians and we always
Speaker 1: joked about that game. He said it ruined his life.
Speaker 1: But that was kind of our moment Rutgers. You know,
Speaker 1: a big game. I go Thursday night football. Always used
Speaker 1: to joke when I got in the league that in
Speaker 1: the Big East we have prime time games because we
Speaker 1: played on Thursday night and everybody in the country was
Speaker 1: washing because there was no other game on. So for
Speaker 1: us to win that game in that fashion with Eatle
Speaker 1: hitting that kick and not only was the kind of
Speaker 1: Rutgers coming out party. But I think about coming into
Speaker 1: Rutgers with a guy like Ray Rice, that was kind
Speaker 1: of his coming out party that really put him on
Speaker 1: the map and in turn kind of helped the entire university.
Speaker 1: So I can just remember how much fun that game was,
Speaker 1: all the fans storm in the field at the end
Speaker 1: of it. Like you said, it was pandemonium that night.
Speaker 1: So that'll be one that we always remember. Yeah, Devin,
Speaker 1: you guys were just getting started, but have some some
Speaker 1: really solid years of Rutgers, which but at that time
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily known as a place to go play if
Speaker 1: he wanted to play in the NFL. But but being
Speaker 1: a Jersey guy and just be a part of the
Speaker 1: early teams that had to be gratifying. It was funny,
Speaker 1: you know, going to Rutgers. That's when they used to
Speaker 1: joke that Rutgers was a hundred and twenty out of
Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty universities in Division World football. So um,
Speaker 1: and I think, like Jason, I think for us in
Speaker 1: that time period, you know, the Kenny Bridge to Taekwon Underwoods,
Speaker 1: us playing Jeremy Suits, Like, we had so many guys
Speaker 1: who left Rutgers and ended up having you know, pretty
Speaker 1: good NFL careers. UM at that time, we didn't know
Speaker 1: anything about the NFL really. We all just were, Hey,
Speaker 1: we're at Rutgers. We're trying to make history and we
Speaker 1: did and we all shared a lot of fun and
Speaker 1: you know, coach Hanno really put something together back then
Speaker 1: that was special that, like Jay said, a lot of
Speaker 1: us will remember that moment, but a lot of those
Speaker 1: moments with those guys on those teams. You guys obviously
Speaker 1: got to the league two different paths, and we'll get
Speaker 1: to that will backtrack, but I want to start with
Speaker 1: because super Bowl is on everybody's mind right now, the
Speaker 1: super Bowl after the two thousand and eighteen season, the
Speaker 1: super Bowl fifty three, when you guys finally get a chance,
Speaker 1: you know, play together. And what's special about it is
Speaker 1: what goes into it, right and the past that these
Speaker 1: guys take to get there, I think, or what draws
Speaker 1: fans in and and Jason, your path was a winding one.
Speaker 1: So before you joined Devon with the Patriots, you're on
Speaker 1: the team that didn't win any games in Cleveland. Man,
Speaker 1: I hate to bring up a bad memory, but it
Speaker 1: sets the stage right how sweet. It was once you
Speaker 1: got to the Patriots and played in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So what was that like, you know, navigating from from
Speaker 1: this situation in Cleveland to joining Devon in New England.
Speaker 1: How that came about? Man, you can't write it up
Speaker 1: any better. I usually tell people I don't talk about
Speaker 1: my ninth year in the league because I was down
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. I kind of just used that as just
Speaker 1: a blank year, like it didn't exist. But I mean
Speaker 1: it was incredible. I remember going from Cleveland and New England.
Speaker 1: That first game we played the Houston Texans at home.
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson was coming off his a c L the
Speaker 1: year before, and when we won that game, I was
Speaker 1: fired up in the locker room. And I remember talking
Speaker 1: to Josh McDaniels after that game at Saint That was
Speaker 1: the first game I won, and over a calendar year,
Speaker 1: because it had been since I was in Tennessee with
Speaker 1: the tie that had won a game. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: just that was kind of the startup of it all,
Speaker 1: and just kind of throughout the course of that year.
Speaker 1: Like you just said, my career was kind of a
Speaker 1: windy role and that season was the first game versus
Speaker 1: Houston I played five plays in that game, and then
Speaker 1: things happened and ended up playing more and was kind
Speaker 1: of up and down and ended up kind of solidifying
Speaker 1: myself on the other side of step with J. C.
Speaker 1: Jackson and John Jones that year and just going on
Speaker 1: to the Two Bowl myself. Josh Gordon wasn't playing in
Speaker 1: the game but was on the roster, and Danny Shelton.
Speaker 1: Us three were all in Cleveland the year before, and
Speaker 1: I remember taking a knee on the sideline as the
Speaker 1: confetti's falling and hugging it out with Dev and then
Speaker 1: looking at Danny Shelton and just saying, like, Yo, we
Speaker 1: made it from where we were last year, we're that season.
Speaker 1: And to think that we'd be standing on the field
Speaker 1: with confetti on the floor around us, uh, crowned as champions.
Speaker 1: I mean, none of us would have thought at that
Speaker 1: point that was gonna be in the cards for us.
Speaker 1: Just a year later, looking back to the confetti because
Speaker 1: that's a sweet moment. But but Devin talking about the
Speaker 1: conversation with Bill Belichick just to try to convince him
Speaker 1: that your twin brother could also play and help the team. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I think it comes with old agent and being in
Speaker 1: the NFL for a while. I still remember Um at
Speaker 1: the end of his season, I'm like, what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? Like, you can't, you can't stay in Cleveland
Speaker 1: like it's about to be a year or ten, like
Speaker 1: you just there's no point of still playing football and
Speaker 1: not trying to win. And I remember the day he
Speaker 1: called me and he was like, yeah, I just talked
Speaker 1: to the GM. Uh They're gonna release me. Uh so
Speaker 1: I'm out of here. And I was like all right, um,
Speaker 1: all right, let me see what I could do. So
Speaker 1: I actually called Brian Flores, uh call Flow and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: J just told him he's getting released. Uh what you think?
Speaker 1: He was like, Um, I said, should I just call Bill?
Speaker 1: He said yeah, called Bill? So of course I text
Speaker 1: Bill Modern Technology Tech Bill and was like, Jay's getting released.
Speaker 1: I just think too, McCarthy's are better than one. And
Speaker 1: then like forty five minutes ago by I had already
Speaker 1: take Jay, like I guess Bill disagrees to report it
Speaker 1: might not be better than one. And then he actually
Speaker 1: ends up calling me almost like an hour later, and
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, we're just gonna trade for him.
Speaker 1: Where you get this thing done now? I'll get him
Speaker 1: on the team. And I was the first person. I
Speaker 1: faced time Jay right after then we faced time my
Speaker 1: mom and was like I told jess, hey, welcome to
Speaker 1: the Patriots, and he's looking at me like what are
Speaker 1: you talking about. I was like, man, we just tried
Speaker 1: a three. You come into the Patriots and the rest
Speaker 1: was kind of history. That's all s It wasn't one
Speaker 1: of those trades that kind of blows up the bottom
Speaker 1: line on ESPN. I was swapped a couple of late
Speaker 1: round raphics. But the the the offshoot is, Jason, you
Speaker 1: get to go to an organization where not only the
Speaker 1: winning games, you're expected to win Super Bowls. Right, so
Speaker 1: before we get to know all the fun in Atlanta
Speaker 1: at the end of the season. Now you're coming on
Speaker 1: board with Devon and the expectations are totally different. And
Speaker 1: and you know, what was that like coming into a
Speaker 1: group of guys that you already had a couple of
Speaker 1: rings at that point, Evin as it all, I mean,
Speaker 1: bray at it. I don't know how many five or
Speaker 1: six at that point. What was it like coming into
Speaker 1: that locker room and just being so starving for a win,
Speaker 1: being surrounded by dows it have already achieved a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember talking to my wife and saying, this is
Speaker 1: gonna be a fun and a challenging year because I
Speaker 1: know for myself, I've been in Tennessee for eight years,
Speaker 1: Cleveland for one, and throughout my years there have been
Speaker 1: a team captain, had been one of the best players
Speaker 1: on my team, have matched up against the other team's
Speaker 1: best receiver for some of those years, and I knew
Speaker 1: I was a player that can compete and was one
Speaker 1: of the better cornerbacks in this league, and that upcoming
Speaker 1: season at that point from me was gonna be really telling,
Speaker 1: because I said to myself, like, now you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to do it on a good team. What an expectation
Speaker 1: is to win, not like we're just going out there
Speaker 1: to see where we're gonna end up. And I think
Speaker 1: that brings a totally different pressure. And I remember talking
Speaker 1: to Dev about it. It's different being on the Cleveland
Speaker 1: Bronze where you're owing sixteen and you're going to every
Speaker 1: game and if you win, everybody's surprised. Opposed. Every time
Speaker 1: you show up on Sunday, everybody's giving you their shot
Speaker 1: because you're the top dog. You're at the top of
Speaker 1: the hill, and I remember talking to Bill when the
Speaker 1: trade happened, and I flew up to Foxborough and had
Speaker 1: a meeting with Bill, and one thing he said to
Speaker 1: me was, Hey, you'll be able to bring a very
Speaker 1: unique perspective on this team. It was just like, we
Speaker 1: have some guys that have been here for I think
Speaker 1: at that point it was maybe the last two or
Speaker 1: three years. That day I went to the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: back to back to back years, He's like, we have
Speaker 1: some guys here that doesn't They don't they don't even
Speaker 1: know what it's like not to win, and they think
Speaker 1: is all because of them. He was just like, your
Speaker 1: perspective coming in. I was in a season in Tennessee
Speaker 1: where we were two and fourteen. Another year we were
Speaker 1: three and thirteen. I've never made it to a playoff game.
Speaker 1: And I think it all kind of fell in at
Speaker 1: the right time, me being there, being able to bring
Speaker 1: some leadership, and being able to bring a perspective of hey, fellas,
Speaker 1: we can't take this for granted and you have to
Speaker 1: make the most of each moment because you don't know
Speaker 1: when you're gonna get your opportunity to be back here.
Speaker 1: So it was challenging and exciting at the same time,
Speaker 1: and I'm just happy it worked out. Devin the previous
Speaker 1: year that when we're talking about two thousand seventeen season, guys,
Speaker 1: super Bowl fifty two to the Eagles. It was a wild,
Speaker 1: high scoring game that they scored in the Philly Special.
Speaker 1: So coming into eight team, you're coming off that stinging
Speaker 1: loss where um, you guys are close. I do want
Speaker 1: to get to what it's like to lose the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl game, because to get to that stage and win
Speaker 1: it is sweeter, but to come short, especially in the organization,
Speaker 1: it's one a couple. Wasn't the first time you you
Speaker 1: were part of the team that lost to the Giants?
Speaker 1: The Manningham catch that drive late? So what before we
Speaker 1: get to the glory, what was it like to walk
Speaker 1: off the field second best on Super Bowl Sunday when
Speaker 1: you're you know, this close to another one. I is devastating.
Speaker 1: I listened to Tom's post game UM news conference after
Speaker 1: they lost to the Rams, and that's the reality of it.
Speaker 1: Like he said, he said, you know when you make
Speaker 1: the playoffs, each time one of the team's seasons come
Speaker 1: to an end, and it's like a car crash. It's terrible.
Speaker 1: It's a horrible ending, and then the next week it's
Speaker 1: even worse, and then that and then ultimately you make
Speaker 1: it to the super Bowl and one of those teams
Speaker 1: is gonna have one of the worst endings that you
Speaker 1: can think of. And that's exactly what it's like. I remember,
Speaker 1: I still vividly remember losing to the Giants. This is
Speaker 1: my second year in the NFL. We make it all
Speaker 1: the way to the super Bowl, and the whole time,
Speaker 1: naturally as a competitor, as a player, you're just like,
Speaker 1: all right, we're competing. I'm doing all of this, and
Speaker 1: then we're gonna be super Bowl champs, Like that's all
Speaker 1: you think about, Like gonna be Super Bowl chaps. And
Speaker 1: then that that as that last play falls and we
Speaker 1: throw to Hail Mary and the confetti starts shooting out,
Speaker 1: and you know, all of the Giants players are running
Speaker 1: on the field. You like, I remember just sitting on
Speaker 1: the bench like wait, the game's over, like what, like
Speaker 1: what now? And and then Philly the same thing. You
Speaker 1: get in the locker room and it's just a terrible ending.
Speaker 1: You know, guys are crying, it's dead silence, like it's
Speaker 1: just something that was so special. You know, I always
Speaker 1: tell guys, when you don't win that that last game
Speaker 1: of the year, however specially you thought that team was,
Speaker 1: that team will be forgotten. You know, no one really
Speaker 1: ever talks about the teams that won the a f
Speaker 1: C R NFC championship. And that was it. Um. And
Speaker 1: that's what the kind of ending is. It's you take
Speaker 1: a lot of times, you take a week or two
Speaker 1: to kind of get back into a routine with the
Speaker 1: rest of the world. You kind of hide out. Um.
Speaker 1: You just you just feel like you let yourself down
Speaker 1: and everybody else around you down when you lose that game.
Speaker 1: And eventually you kind of build back up and you
Speaker 1: get ready to go to next year. But it's a
Speaker 1: it's a tough couple of weeks when you lose that
Speaker 1: last game. Yeah, I don't know what it's like to lose.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it's like. I got you. But
Speaker 1: but you come onto this team and and and Devin,
Speaker 1: how much did you want it for Jason? You want
Speaker 1: it for yourself, You want it for everybody that's coming
Speaker 1: up that stinging pain. But going into eight team season,
Speaker 1: now you got your your brother alongside as you said,
Speaker 1: you've not you didn't get close to it. How much
Speaker 1: did you want one for him as well as yourself?
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly that last game, you know, especially as
Speaker 1: we want in the confess, like I felt like I
Speaker 1: was kind of outside, you know, almost like outside the
Speaker 1: house looking in at him, just because of everything he
Speaker 1: had went through and you know, just the purity of
Speaker 1: it all. Like after we win the NFC Championship against
Speaker 1: Kansas City, we come back the next day and we
Speaker 1: have our Super Bowl meeting. And the Super Bowl meeting
Speaker 1: is probably like fifteen minutes in total, Like we're going
Speaker 1: over hotel to like, we're going over everything, and it's
Speaker 1: still only fifteen minutes, and we all walk out and
Speaker 1: Jay's like, wait, wait, wait, wait what happens to He
Speaker 1: was like like that meeting was way too short, Like
Speaker 1: my bad, because all you guys have gone to four
Speaker 1: Super Bowls, but like nobody answered any of my question.
Speaker 1: And we cracked jokes on him from the time we
Speaker 1: won the nc Championship game all the way to the
Speaker 1: end where we won the whole thing, because he just
Speaker 1: media day, media, the big media day, then the media
Speaker 1: that you have to do every day. He was just
Speaker 1: always chipper excited and ready to go um and it
Speaker 1: was great. I think, you know, we did. Obviously, we
Speaker 1: have a lot of spoiled guys on our team. You know,
Speaker 1: I've played in five super Bowls, like that was my
Speaker 1: fifth super Bowl, playing in uh in my ninth year,
Speaker 1: Like that's just ridiculous to think about. And he brought
Speaker 1: that sense of like, hey, guys, like this isn't every day.
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna show you guys how you need to
Speaker 1: take full advantage. And he did just that. How do
Speaker 1: you remember, Jason, Yeah, very that that logistics me and
Speaker 1: he said fifteen minutes. It was probably five minutes. They
Speaker 1: got up there, and was just like, I mean, this
Speaker 1: is our third year going and most of you guys,
Speaker 1: you know, you know the drill. If any of the
Speaker 1: new guys have questions, just come fine, man, I'm just
Speaker 1: like that's it. That's all we're gonna do. And he's
Speaker 1: right though the meet any and everything that had to
Speaker 1: do with the Super Bowl those two weeks leading up,
Speaker 1: I was all in for it. I told my wife,
Speaker 1: we talked about I'm gonna enjoy every single moment of
Speaker 1: this super Bowl, whether it's we get there on Monday
Speaker 1: and we go out with the guys. I'm gonna enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Whether it's the practice were on Georgia Tech campus and
Speaker 1: the whole nine with everything, I'm gonna or the bus
Speaker 1: rides from the hotel to the practice space, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: enjoy it. I'm gonna make the most of it, especially
Speaker 1: because at that point I got traded. I only had
Speaker 1: a year left on my contract from Cleveland, So this
Speaker 1: was not only a chance to win the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: but this is also a chance to play alongside my brother,
Speaker 1: where I didn't think that it was gonna go past
Speaker 1: that one season. So man, I I took it all in.
Speaker 1: Leading up to that game, I was fired up. Uh
Speaker 1: told family, every my my mom, everybody was there, and
Speaker 1: I just told him I was gonna enjoy it because
Speaker 1: I knew and I think to what he said. That
Speaker 1: was his fifth super Bowl. It was my fifth super
Speaker 1: Bowl as well the previous four. I went to all
Speaker 1: of them, and I hosted the family. Uh just try
Speaker 1: to go down for the entire week, and I would
Speaker 1: be in constant contact with deav where just like, Hey,
Speaker 1: whatever you need me to do to help you focus
Speaker 1: on the game, just let me know like, this is
Speaker 1: what I'm here for, and like we always kind of
Speaker 1: explain it is just like you're that kid who doesn't
Speaker 1: have the family atmosphere that you want, and Christmas comes
Speaker 1: around is one of your favorite holidays, but you've never
Speaker 1: been able to celebrate it with your family. But you
Speaker 1: have neighbors that they have the biggest and the best family,
Speaker 1: and it's like Christmas morning, you just stand in their
Speaker 1: driveway and you just look through the window and you're
Speaker 1: watching them celebrate Christmas, and you've always wanted it for yourself.
Speaker 1: And that's what a sad sense I mean that that's
Speaker 1: brotherly love. You. You're doing unselfish stuff. You're just looking
Speaker 1: through the window at other people having fun. Guilty In
Speaker 1: a way, I was like, man, I hope you I
Speaker 1: hope he gets to do this one day. But I
Speaker 1: was like, man, also in a way, I want to
Speaker 1: just keep doing this. If he could come on board,
Speaker 1: he can, But if not, I don't want to stop
Speaker 1: losing for him to win. That's for sure. You get
Speaker 1: into the game. It's the Rams have hyped their offenses,
Speaker 1: one of the top scoring offenses in the league. Jared
Speaker 1: Goffs pitching around like Bays calling these ball plays and
Speaker 1: then you guys go in and you absolutely smother holding
Speaker 1: to a field goal. Um, it's not the kind of
Speaker 1: super Bowl people expected or wanted to see unless you
Speaker 1: love defense to your Paris. It was a boring as
Speaker 1: dud of the Super Bowl. But it's beautiful for you
Speaker 1: guys playing defense because all the hype had been the
Speaker 1: Rams offense coming in right, And I don't know for me.
Speaker 1: The year before, like you just said, Chris we I
Speaker 1: played in a Super Bowl where it was five yards
Speaker 1: from Brady, four seventy from full Like I played in
Speaker 1: that game where it was like everyone you know, lead
Speaker 1: the game. It was like, oh my goodness, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: you lost, but what a great game. Where I'm walking
Speaker 1: away like this was one of the worst games we've
Speaker 1: ever played as a defense because you couldn't stop anything.
Speaker 1: So like I left that that next year, I was
Speaker 1: head high, like proud, like you know this is I
Speaker 1: think they were scoring thirty something points a game, and
Speaker 1: like we held them to three. It was awesome, but
Speaker 1: you know, I get it. Everybody else was so disappointed.
Speaker 1: But you know, you you kind of fast forward one
Speaker 1: year to be back in that game. We get an
Speaker 1: opportunity to play against the offense like that and to
Speaker 1: play how we played defensively, one of the best feelings
Speaker 1: that you can have. J C may have played the
Speaker 1: end and you broke of the past. I think Brandon
Speaker 1: Cooks was the receiver. It was a big play in
Speaker 1: the game because you do keep him out of the
Speaker 1: ends on the whole game. But it's the kind of
Speaker 1: play that, like you said, Devin, if it's a high
Speaker 1: school in Super Bowl, nobody's remember the past broken up
Speaker 1: in the first half. But to be a part of
Speaker 1: that and make a play and to know when it
Speaker 1: was over that that was a touchdown saving play that
Speaker 1: was was enormous after what you've been through. Had to
Speaker 1: feel pretty cool. Oh for sure. I mean to be
Speaker 1: able to play in that game and play every single
Speaker 1: play in the game and have an impact and make
Speaker 1: plays throughout the course of that game, it was. It
Speaker 1: was everything. Like Dev said, they were such a high
Speaker 1: powered offense going into that game. For us defensively, kind
Speaker 1: of the chess and the behind the scenes and the
Speaker 1: strategy that goes into it for me was what was
Speaker 1: so much fun. Because we had been Austraightian man and
Speaker 1: man team throughout the second half of this season in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and we're going too that game, and we
Speaker 1: played predominantly zone on first and second down and only
Speaker 1: man them up on third down, and they really had
Speaker 1: no answer for that. And just to be a part
Speaker 1: of such a dominating Super Bowl defensively and to have
Speaker 1: a key playing that game. For sure, I look back
Speaker 1: at my career and I was gonna be one of
Speaker 1: the best moments, probably the best moment of the of
Speaker 1: my career. I've seen the postgame interview. The confetti's all
Speaker 1: over the place. You guys are on a set talking
Speaker 1: to announcers, and people have at least at least one
Speaker 1: of your kids. I think each of their your your
Speaker 1: mom was there. I mean that, Devin, What a moment
Speaker 1: to get to share that with Jason after all that,
Speaker 1: and Just and and the next generation of mccordy's, by
Speaker 1: the way, we're there too. That's pretty cool, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: And like you like you started off saying that we
Speaker 1: were high recruits, Like you know, I had no stars
Speaker 1: until I committed to Rutgers and they gave me to Like,
Speaker 1: all right, he's got a DVO scholarship. We'll give them too.
Speaker 1: So I think for all of us, you know, between
Speaker 1: us to my mom, my older brother, like all of
Speaker 1: the people that were there in that journey, like no
Speaker 1: one would have thought, you know, those two kids coming
Speaker 1: out of high school would be sitting on a set
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl talking about being Super Bowl champions
Speaker 1: like it was just it was unheard of. So I
Speaker 1: think for us, you know obviously to go through college
Speaker 1: then our NFL journeys and to be there together when
Speaker 1: my mom, who has been the driving force, and us
Speaker 1: being football players, men, dad's husband, like everything to share that,
Speaker 1: you know, I think was I think why athletes compete
Speaker 1: while we go through the different things. Why do we
Speaker 1: play through injuries? To me is for those moments to
Speaker 1: be able to share them with the people you love.
Speaker 1: And that was our mom, our wives and our kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my mom was in the confetti doing confetti angels where
Speaker 1: all of our grandkids we still we still have that video.
Speaker 1: So that that was kind of the the vibe of
Speaker 1: everything that was going on after the game. Devin Seid's
Speaker 1: Gotta out of body experience, Jason, for you was a
Speaker 1: second for tacking down and and and the reality is
Speaker 1: sinking in that you're gonna be a Super Bowl champion
Speaker 1: for the first time. What what what do you recall
Speaker 1: about that? About those feelings, I couldn't believe it. I mean, uh,
Speaker 1: they missed a field gold and I remember me and
Speaker 1: Death kind of running and jumping on each other at
Speaker 1: that point, and then we go back on offense, and
Speaker 1: so we win the game. While we're sitting on the bench,
Speaker 1: and when the clock hit zero, I just dropped to
Speaker 1: a knee and just kind of just took it all
Speaker 1: in and uh, just such a surreal feeling. And I
Speaker 1: remember once the families got down on the field hugging
Speaker 1: and give him, my wife a hugging a kiss because
Speaker 1: we have been we've been together since my sophomore year
Speaker 1: in college. So I always joked that she became my
Speaker 1: therapist once we got in the lead because she would
Speaker 1: have to listen to all the frustration and everything I
Speaker 1: had gone through from Tennessee to Cleveland and onto New England.
Speaker 1: So I was just like, Death's a very awesome moment
Speaker 1: for ourselves, but more importantly for our family and the
Speaker 1: people kind of in the background. I have fought with
Speaker 1: us and done everything to help us get to where
Speaker 1: we were. Yeah, definitely say, you know, the first time
Speaker 1: is special, but what was different about this one even
Speaker 1: though it was your third to be able to share
Speaker 1: it with him? What what? What what felt different about
Speaker 1: you is as you as you took it ll in,
Speaker 1: you know, walking off the field with the ultimate high. Yeah. Man.
Speaker 1: And I never thought anything would top that first one
Speaker 1: in Arizona when we beat Seattle. UM, just because you know,
Speaker 1: guys like Vince Wolford and uh Matt Patricia, they would
Speaker 1: always tell me of what it felt like when you
Speaker 1: wanted and then I finally got that feeling. But this
Speaker 1: time around it was different because Um, usually after the game,
Speaker 1: you get a couple of field passes for the family
Speaker 1: that gets to come down and you celebrate with them,
Speaker 1: but it's never like your full family. And like this
Speaker 1: time with Jay being there and women, you know, it
Speaker 1: wasn't you know, Jay coming down and giving me a
Speaker 1: hug and saying congrats. It was like our whole family
Speaker 1: being down there celebrating together. It was like being back
Speaker 1: in high school and Pop one or like all of
Speaker 1: those great moments where your whole family is and that's
Speaker 1: what this was. So, you know it, I thought no one,
Speaker 1: nothing would top that first one. But you know, once
Speaker 1: we've won that, you know it's it's my favorite super
Speaker 1: Bowl win, which feels great to even be able to say,
Speaker 1: but it was. It was definitely special, Devin. You talked
Speaker 1: about that that special when over Sela that ended a
Speaker 1: ten year Super Bowl drought of the Patriots. They hadn't
Speaker 1: want a bunch early with Grady. It had been ten years.
Speaker 1: So for those of us that don't understand what it's
Speaker 1: like to be in those moments and playing the ultimate
Speaker 1: game in the sport you love and playing a game
Speaker 1: that great because you know the Seahawks, you're driving, Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson's got the ball, and people remember Malcolm Butler, a
Speaker 1: guy that you're you're in the defensive secondary with him,
Speaker 1: makes a goal line interception to seal it. One of
Speaker 1: the great players that's ever happened. What is it like
Speaker 1: in the huddle in your head as the defender and
Speaker 1: one of those kind of final drives and you know
Speaker 1: you've got to get a stop and then and then
Speaker 1: it happens. I'll never forget Flow Flows used to say
Speaker 1: this Rye Floores and he's my position coach. You should
Speaker 1: always tell us when we got into the big playoff games.
Speaker 1: He should always tell us there's gonna be moments in
Speaker 1: the game where it's going really well and you're gonna
Speaker 1: start saying, like, man, when that confetti falls, or like
Speaker 1: when I grabbed the trophy, you're gonna start thinking the head.
Speaker 1: He says, It's gonna be bad moments where you're sitting
Speaker 1: there like, oh, man, I can't believe we blew this.
Speaker 1: Like and like all of those moments happened in that
Speaker 1: Seattle game. You know what, Jules scores that go ahead
Speaker 1: touchdown and you're like, man, we're about to win. And
Speaker 1: then uh, Curse makes the crazy catch down the sideline
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, I can't believe again, another crazy catch.
Speaker 1: About to lose. And he used to tell us, but
Speaker 1: just just remember next play, next play, and that's what
Speaker 1: it was. You kind of just keep going next play,
Speaker 1: and you know, they Marshawn Lynch runs the ball somehow
Speaker 1: High Tower spins back and like gets a shoulder on
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch's need to even get them down at the
Speaker 1: one yard line. And then Malcolm you know, jumps a
Speaker 1: play that uh he got beat on in practice a
Speaker 1: few days before, and here you got a guy who's
Speaker 1: a tryout player who ends up being like our fifth
Speaker 1: or sixth corner on the team back in training camp,
Speaker 1: ends up being the star of super Bowl forty nine,
Speaker 1: and then I'll never forget the next year in O
Speaker 1: T A s. Brady starts just getting on Malcolm one
Speaker 1: O T A practice about you ever heard of guys
Speaker 1: that went Super Bowl m v P or make key
Speaker 1: plays in the Super Bowl? Yeah, because we never hear
Speaker 1: about him again. It starts just challenging Malcolm. And the
Speaker 1: best part is Malcolm ends up going on to be
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl player, UM, and just a great corner
Speaker 1: in this league. UM. And it all started from him
Speaker 1: making that great play. UM. Really just going next play
Speaker 1: at his hime. That's awesome. That's a great recollection. All right,
Speaker 1: Bengals and Rams, Devin, I'll start with you because the
Speaker 1: Bengals players, a lot of them have not been in
Speaker 1: this situation. A lot of them were young, a lot
Speaker 1: of them have been on some really bad teams. Now
Speaker 1: they get their moment. Do they not yet know about
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl experience, whether it's a lead up to
Speaker 1: it or playing in the game, that they're gonna need
Speaker 1: to find out Um. One of the biggest things I'll
Speaker 1: say is football's football. So once they get out there,
Speaker 1: they'll just play and be fine. Um. But I think
Speaker 1: one of the things that you always need to realize
Speaker 1: is there's a football game at the end of all
Speaker 1: of this. There's a lot I mean when I say
Speaker 1: a lot, there's a lot of hoop lah, you know,
Speaker 1: interviews the whole week before you even get down uh
Speaker 1: to l A. You're gonna be talking about the past
Speaker 1: games that just happened the season, like, you know, talking
Speaker 1: about so many things, and there's gonna be companies asking
Speaker 1: me to do stuff, and there's just gonna be so
Speaker 1: much stuff between now and game time that it's so
Speaker 1: easy to forget. Man, what do I usually do on Tuesday?
Speaker 1: As far as getting ahead of my film study? What
Speaker 1: are the cut ups I watched? Hey? Do we usually
Speaker 1: meet as a group? Like all of those little things
Speaker 1: that you usually do because you're week is already kind
Speaker 1: of in routine for you, those are the things you
Speaker 1: need to do. Those are the things the new things
Speaker 1: that you might need to do when you get to
Speaker 1: l A. Hey, guys, like, let's get together Monday night,
Speaker 1: let's get together onesday, like some of those small things
Speaker 1: are always I mean, every game I've ever played in
Speaker 1: is the difference of winning the Super Bowl and losing.
Speaker 1: The first time I went no idea about any of this,
Speaker 1: and um as I went, you know, a couple more times.
Speaker 1: A second time, you kind of realize those are the
Speaker 1: things that you can do to separate yourself. Because both
Speaker 1: teams are going through it, so hopefully they do those
Speaker 1: things and give them themselves a chance to win the game. Jason,
Speaker 1: in this Bengals Rams matchup, you can relate probably more
Speaker 1: to the Cincinnati side of things, because you know, you
Speaker 1: you didn't come into the super Bowl of a bunch
Speaker 1: of success. The Bengals are an organization have been kicked
Speaker 1: around for a long time now. Even probably after doing
Speaker 1: a great job in the playoffs, you go to aarra
Speaker 1: ahead and you come from an eighteen down. I mean,
Speaker 1: what do those guys, having stored what are they get
Speaker 1: to experience for being in the ultimate that they don't
Speaker 1: realize yet, Man, you're gonna experience what it feels like
Speaker 1: to now be on top. For so long you've had
Speaker 1: to fight, you even for them in the playoffs, they've
Speaker 1: been the underdog. They had to go to Nashville and
Speaker 1: beat the Italians, the number one team in the a
Speaker 1: f C. Then they had to go, like you said
Speaker 1: to Alha, and be the Chiefs, the number two team
Speaker 1: on the a f C. And now you're going into
Speaker 1: a game where you may still be the underdog, but
Speaker 1: at the same time, everybody is now celebrating and no
Speaker 1: one's talking down on you. Everybody's telling you now how
Speaker 1: good you are. And I think for me, my advice
Speaker 1: would be to them is man, take it all. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you believe in the hype, but enjoy
Speaker 1: that process. Enjoy those two weeks like deaths that enjoy
Speaker 1: the hooplah, enjoy the media, all of those things. Will
Speaker 1: still be able to focus on the game and know
Speaker 1: the task I had. But man, have fun. Man, it's
Speaker 1: a special moment. We grow up for all of us
Speaker 1: at love football. You grow up as kids. I remember
Speaker 1: watching the Cowboys and the Steelers and the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: and having a fun wage of five dollars on a
Speaker 1: bedding for the Cowboys with my mom. You grow up
Speaker 1: watching this game and halftime performance, everything that goes around
Speaker 1: to the commercials, and you're actually going to be playing
Speaker 1: and it don't take that too lightly, uh, and don't
Speaker 1: make the moment way bigger than you have to have
Speaker 1: to make it. Just enjoy that process and enjoy each
Speaker 1: moment of it. And devon on the Rams side, you
Speaker 1: can relate more if we just talked about the game
Speaker 1: where you you stop them, smothered them few years ago.
Speaker 1: So some of the veteran players Aaron Donald and others
Speaker 1: have been this close and you gotta shut them down.
Speaker 1: Now they come back and it's a different kind of
Speaker 1: hunger as you as you went through losing one before
Speaker 1: you finally got to win one. Yeah, that they're gonna
Speaker 1: be a determined group. I still remember and two thousand
Speaker 1: and four team when we beat the Colts in the
Speaker 1: NFC Championship, UM and our whole sideline, you know, you
Speaker 1: had guys celebrating, going crazy, and there was a group
Speaker 1: of us that was just sitting there like this isn't
Speaker 1: what we want, you know, And you know, like Jay said,
Speaker 1: you want to enjoy the moment. But I think you're
Speaker 1: gonna see two sides of this. You're gonna see a
Speaker 1: team like since he doesn't joined the moment, and you're
Speaker 1: gonna see some of that leadership of the Rams really
Speaker 1: kind of shutting down probably some of the celebrations and saying, hey,
Speaker 1: we only want to celebrate this one game. We want
Speaker 1: to win this game to celebrate because if not all
Speaker 1: of the celebration we're doing leading up to it, it's
Speaker 1: not gonna matter. And I remember that because, like I
Speaker 1: was that guy in fourteen after losing in the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl in two thousand eleven and losing and back to
Speaker 1: back an f C championship games, I was that guy
Speaker 1: that was like, man, it's only gonna matter if we
Speaker 1: win this last game. UM. So I think you're gonna
Speaker 1: see Aaron Donald, You're gonna see some of those other
Speaker 1: guys that Robert Woods even though he's not out there,
Speaker 1: the Cooper Cups who couldn't play against us, those guys
Speaker 1: that experience being at the top and falling short. I
Speaker 1: think they're really gonna take that team and say, hey,
Speaker 1: we've been there before. This only matters if we come
Speaker 1: away with the ring that we want. Um. And it's
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see that battle of kinda wills
Speaker 1: go ahead to head as this teach you guys. First
Speaker 1: of all, Devin, you got a picture of you and
Speaker 1: your brother. I believe that you guys are together in
Speaker 1: a frame over your left shoulder on the wall. I said,
Speaker 1: it's nice background for this. Uh, I see some other member,
Speaker 1: b I see a football back there. But when you
Speaker 1: guys sit around, you know, in the rocking share decades
Speaker 1: from now and your your kids are all grown, what
Speaker 1: do you think, Jason, you're gonna reflect on on that moment,
Speaker 1: you know, going back to Atlanta and with the confetti
Speaker 1: on the ground and being able to share a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl championship. What do you think you'll say? Man Oh,
Speaker 1: I think that will be a lesson of overcoming adversity.
Speaker 1: And I think that that would be the perspective that
Speaker 1: I would talk to him about of you just never
Speaker 1: know what's on the other side, if you can put
Speaker 1: your head down and continue to be in the moment
Speaker 1: and continue to work. And I would say that was
Speaker 1: what my journey and what my process was. Uh. Pick
Speaker 1: of the draft in two thousand and nine, go to
Speaker 1: a Tennessee team that just came up a thirteen and
Speaker 1: three record and think, I'm just joined a hot franchise
Speaker 1: and we're about to just continue to take all and
Speaker 1: just have losing season after losing season, but in the
Speaker 1: midst of a losing season, being able to continue to
Speaker 1: work on myself as a pro and as a player
Speaker 1: and just continue to be at the top of my game.
Speaker 1: And then, like you how we started, you go from
Speaker 1: Cleveland on sixteen to winning the Super Bowl a year later.
Speaker 1: And it's almost like those little pictures you see where
Speaker 1: there's a farm or something. He's working. He's working on
Speaker 1: the ground. He's working on the ground, and he can't
Speaker 1: see any success or he can't see what he's doing
Speaker 1: it for. And they show underground the roots of that
Speaker 1: tree or the roots of what he's working on. Is
Speaker 1: Doug so deep because that's the success on the other side,
Speaker 1: and we can't always see it. And I think that's
Speaker 1: what I would use that Super Bowl victory for is
Speaker 1: sometimes in the middle of the storm, in the middle
Speaker 1: of adversity, you can't find your way out. But if
Speaker 1: you kind of stay in a moment, even to take
Speaker 1: it back to the two thousand and six Rutgers team,
Speaker 1: and you continue to chop in the middle of the forest,
Speaker 1: tree by tree, the next thing you know, you'll be
Speaker 1: ashore and you'll be exactly where you want to be.
Speaker 1: Man that's a powerful message. It's perfectly delivered. Um, Devin,
Speaker 1: When you think about those those four hours of your
Speaker 1: life that so much in your life goes into and
Speaker 1: you have a lot of life after that, what do
Speaker 1: you think you'll reflect about when you sit on the
Speaker 1: rocket chair. Well, first thing, I tell my kids, I
Speaker 1: was better than my twin brothers. So I'll tell his
Speaker 1: kids and my kids I was the better one. Um.
Speaker 1: But I'll get a chance to reflect on um having
Speaker 1: the opportunity, uh to come into a pressure situation. I
Speaker 1: always say, you know, there's a core group of guys
Speaker 1: that got there around a two thousand ten times, you know, myself, Grunt,
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, Patch hung High Tower. Um, we came in
Speaker 1: there and you know, like Jay said, we got to
Speaker 1: New England so it was like all right, guys, we
Speaker 1: just jumped on board and win a super Bowl and
Speaker 1: here we go. And like you said, Chris, it was
Speaker 1: a ten year drought. So you know we were a
Speaker 1: part of a lot of those seasons of getting close
Speaker 1: and failing. UM. And I just remember, you know, having
Speaker 1: that core group of guys of all of us kind
Speaker 1: of looking at each other saying like I don't I'm
Speaker 1: having conversations with Matt Slater like we don't want to
Speaker 1: be to have group that everyone looks and it's like,
Speaker 1: hey man, those other guys won before you, and you,
Speaker 1: guys just you weren't good enough. Um. And to me
Speaker 1: that that was the definition and define me as a
Speaker 1: professional and my professional career was we found a way
Speaker 1: through losing, through being close having the greatest quarterback to
Speaker 1: ever play the game. It was really up to the
Speaker 1: rest of us, like we already knew Tom could do it. Um.
Speaker 1: And for me it was how can I got to
Speaker 1: see how a group of guys can come together to
Speaker 1: lead different groups and men on offense, defense and special
Speaker 1: teams and will ourselves to to win by learning from
Speaker 1: guys above us, the Vince Wilford, Sir Tom Brady's, the
Speaker 1: Logan Mankings, and then ultimately transforming and becoming something and
Speaker 1: making something of our own because of the guys and
Speaker 1: the giants above us who did it before us, and
Speaker 1: we got to talk to them and learn from them
Speaker 1: and then do something special after. UM. I'll always be
Speaker 1: able to reflect on something, UM that you know it's
Speaker 1: hard to do, go and play with the greats. To
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's to Tom Brady's the Mr Crafts and have
Speaker 1: to define and pitch out your own role with something out.
Speaker 1: A group of us got to do that. I really enjoyed,
Speaker 1: and uh, we'll always miss those guys getting chest compete
Speaker 1: when when it's all said and uh, I wonder if
Speaker 1: guys you played in Super Bowls watch them in a
Speaker 1: different way. Jason, think you'll watch the Bengals and the
Speaker 1: Rams and reflect and be happy for the group that
Speaker 1: gets to experience that, or like, screw it, We're not
Speaker 1: in there, so I don't care. I got something if
Speaker 1: to do on Sunday. I mean, do you have a
Speaker 1: prediction in the game. Yeah, I always watch a different man,
Speaker 1: And that's any championship. I remember after we want watching
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals and watching I think I might have
Speaker 1: been I think it was the year maybe Toronto one
Speaker 1: and watching and like, man, I know exactly what it's
Speaker 1: like to know that that ring is coming or you
Speaker 1: just I feel like now I can relate. And I
Speaker 1: think some of it was just my trash talk to
Speaker 1: different people that I was finally a champion in that aspect.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm I'm going for the Rams and it's
Speaker 1: more because I think for years of going against Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 1: I've always thought he was one of the better quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in our league, but didn't do a ton of winning,
Speaker 1: so didn't really get his flowers and his credit the
Speaker 1: way he should have been. It's been fun for me
Speaker 1: just as a competitor having to compete against him and
Speaker 1: now watching him go to l A and go to
Speaker 1: Rams and getting his chance to play in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for those guys and will be excited to
Speaker 1: see him when Burrow. He has years to come with,
Speaker 1: he'll get there. That's that's well said. See, you would
Speaker 1: have gone for the dude who got knocked around Patius
Speaker 1: dudes and every right, I get that. I get that, Devin,
Speaker 1: what about you? Yeah, it's fun watching games too. Was
Speaker 1: always think about like the notes and stuff that we
Speaker 1: talked about. So I'm always interested in how the first
Speaker 1: half goals can pair to the second half, like it's
Speaker 1: usually a lot of times to go. It's two totally
Speaker 1: different games a lot of times when you watch, so
Speaker 1: it's very excited I'll be watching. I love watching good football,
Speaker 1: and um, I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: Sinsei because one of the reasons I can't pick with
Speaker 1: j just pick so um. I think since you know,
Speaker 1: I think everyone is gonna worry about experience, UM, but
Speaker 1: I don't think it matters once you go out there
Speaker 1: and play football. And I think since he has enough um,
Speaker 1: just drive and determination. I think they're backed by a
Speaker 1: city like you spoke about, that's hungry to win UM.
Speaker 1: And it's gonna be fun to see some of these
Speaker 1: young dogs get out there and just go and have fun.
Speaker 1: And I think hopefully it lives up to the rest
Speaker 1: of these playoff games we've watched, because I mean we've
Speaker 1: gotten to watch them great football, so hopefully it's another
Speaker 1: great game. So well Sunday, You guys have been forged
Speaker 1: by a lot of experiences, deliver powerful messages, great role models.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that very much. You use the platform that
Speaker 1: you've got from success in the NFL to do things
Speaker 1: like mentoring kids, and I was some portant to both
Speaker 1: of you Jason and raising awareness for sickle cell so um,
Speaker 1: you know, being well rounded and using football to to
Speaker 1: do good for people. I know it's important to both
Speaker 1: of you. Yeah, without a doubt. Something I think our
Speaker 1: mom is still done us at a young age, and
Speaker 1: it's something that we've been very passionate about. Whether it's
Speaker 1: free football camps or blood drives or five K walks
Speaker 1: to benefit Single Cell, or just going to donate your
Speaker 1: time to be able to talk to somebody or spend
Speaker 1: time with somebody has been tremendous. I think for us
Speaker 1: kind of individually to watch one another continue to get
Speaker 1: out during the community. I know when I got to
Speaker 1: New England watching death with all the social justice stuff,
Speaker 1: step in front of the team and be able to
Speaker 1: lead a group, a group of men in the direction
Speaker 1: that everybody didn't know which way to go, but people
Speaker 1: having a desire to want change and to be a
Speaker 1: part of that change, and him kind of leading that
Speaker 1: and pushing people in inspire and really challenging everybody to
Speaker 1: get involved and not only to talk about it. It's
Speaker 1: been fun to watch each of us not only grow
Speaker 1: on the field, but watch us grow off the field
Speaker 1: as we try to impact our communities far less important.
Speaker 1: But Devin, who's gonna be the best broadcaster? You guys
Speaker 1: are both incredibly so when when it's all said, now
Speaker 1: it's time to make that step into the booth, who's
Speaker 1: gonna be the better announcer too. Well, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: being better at football and knowledge and then just you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, leave him and a dust. But I'll keep
Speaker 1: bringing him along. I got him one Super Bowl ring,
Speaker 1: why not help him get something else. I love brother,
Speaker 1: the relationships, Jason, You're no, there's no way. I mean,
Speaker 1: like he said, he's the one who has the All
Speaker 1: Pros and Pro Bowl. We're going whatever we're going to
Speaker 1: after football, I'm gonna make sure I'll come out on it,
Speaker 1: but on the better end, so I can say he
Speaker 1: had that. But hey, for longer amount of time, I
Speaker 1: was the one that was better than that. That football
Speaker 1: stuff only lasted a little over a decade. It was
Speaker 1: the rest of our lives before I was winning competants
Speaker 1: to the end, man, I love it, but the love
Speaker 1: comes through as well. You as have been enormous this
Speaker 1: This is a been a hell of a lot of
Speaker 1: fun and people are gonna jil listened to it very much,
Speaker 1: So thank you for taking the time, guys. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thanks Alvan's Chris, he appreciate you man that I enjoy that.
Speaker 1: Very grateful to Devon and Jason not just superb players,
Speaker 1: but great examples role models. They each were given honorary
Speaker 1: doctorates from Rutt Gerry's, where they delivered a combo commencement speech.
Speaker 1: Both were named captains for the Patriots in the season.
Speaker 1: How cool is that? And Part two of our Super
Speaker 1: Bowl Experience, I've got Super Bowl Head referee John Perry,
Speaker 1: who takes us behind the scenes of the officials world
Speaker 1: leading up to Super Sunday and tells us about the
Speaker 1: spiritual night that led him to call his only perfect game.
Speaker 1: And also my good buddy Charles Coplin, who was the
Speaker 1: NFL executive in charge of six Super Bowl halftime shows.
Speaker 1: He'll take us backstage for great stories about Prince Bruce Springsteen,
Speaker 1: Rolling Stones, Tom Patty, Paul McCartney, Jay Z, YouTube, and
Speaker 1: more So keep an eye out for that. As always,
Speaker 1: thanks to my co executive producer Jennifer Dempster and ad
Speaker 1: Jason Whitehelt for his editing skills. I'll talk to you
Speaker 1: very soon for Part two.