WEBVTT - Super Bowl: The Full Experience Part One 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:04.120 Welcome to season four of Fowler Who You Got. I 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:07.240 really appreciate the support for our first three seasons. We've 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:10.120 got another very strong season ahead for you. We kick 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:12.760 it off with two episodes on the Super Bowl experience 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:16.120 from various angles. This is part one, what it feels 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:18.800 like to play in the ultimate game, to win it 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:22.599 and to lose it. In part two, the pressures and 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:26.079 the pride of refereeing the Super Bowl and producing the 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:29.440 halftime shows the most watched musical performance of the year. 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:34.320 We'll hear about Prince Springsteen, The Stones, among others. So 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:39.720 imagine this movie script. Twin brothers playing football together. They're 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:42.159 not highly recruited. They end up at a program that 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:46.400 is really struggling, not even thinking about the NFL, but 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:49.320 they helped resurrect their home state team, and on draft 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:53.160 day they each hear their name called except one. Twin 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.840 brother is the first round pick of an elite franchise. 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:58.600 He plays with the greatest quarterback ever, wins a couple 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:02.840 of Super Bowls. The older brother suffers through losing season 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:06.840 after losing season, including the unthinkable that owen sixteen years. 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:12.360 Then suddenly the twins are reunited as starters in the 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:16.080 same defensive backfield and together they share in a Super 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:20.440 Bowl triumph. All right, that sounds maybe a little too 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:25.880 far fetched, except it happened to my guests, Devin and 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:29.520 Jason mccordy. No one would have thought, you know, those 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:31.600 two kids coming out of high school would be sitting 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.280 on a set in the Super Bowl talking about being 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:37.360 Super Bowl champions like it was just it was unheard of. 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:39.840 So I think for us, you know obviously to go 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.640 through college then our NFL journeys and to be there 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:46.319 together when my mom who has been the driving force, 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:50.480 and us being football players men, Dace has like everything 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.520 to share that, you know, I think was I think 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.480 why athletes chimp pete while we go through the different things, 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.800 Why do we play through injuries? To me, it is 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:01.000 for those moments be able to share them with the 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.320 people you love, And that was our mom, our wives 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.400 and our kids. Yeah, my mom was in the confetti 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:10.160 doing confetti angels were all of our grandkids. We still 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.519 we still have that video. So that that was kind 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.000 of the the vibe of everything now was going on 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.519 after the game, how they arrived at that amazing moment, 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.839 all that went into it, the winding paths that each 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:25.040 of them took. Make sure of some great stories beautifully 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:27.760 told in one of the most enjoyable sports conversations I've 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:30.960 ever had. They'll also tell us what the Bengals and 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.799 Rams should know about playing in Super Bowl fifties six 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:38.480 and get some predictions. No surprise, these very competitive brothers 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:43.160 pick different sides. You'll love this. The mccordy twins, Devon 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.600 and Jason, well, Devon and Jason, appreciate your time. This 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:51.920 is fun. I'm fascinated by brotherly relationships, especially twin relationships. 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.680 So your guys journey through football is I think really unique. 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:57.919 We have we have this in common. Two thousand and six, 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:00.440 you guys are early in your careers at Rutgers and 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.399 for those listings have don't understand. Rutgers was good. Rutgers 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:06.120 had good teams, and you guys were kind of there 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:07.840 at the beginning of that in the Big East. In 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.440 the two thousand and six in came Louisville ranked number three. 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.679 Scarlet Knights were having a great season, undefeated at the time, 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:16.040 and we were hyped to call this Thursday game and 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:17.760 it was neat to be at the birthplace of college 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:21.200 football and the energy around that and you guys as 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:23.560 Jersey kids. I remember they were all hyped up. These 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.280 two guys from Jersey. Not big recruits, but man, they're ballers, 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:29.280 they can play, and they're twins. And we had gotten 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.200 we had gotten coached up on that. So you guys 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:35.680 being a part of that game, um which I call 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:39.960 pandamoney and piscataway, Jason, take take me through that experience 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.320 of kind of being a part of building Ruckers football. Man. 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:45.280 It's funny because we just got a chance to talk 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.920 to Harry Douglas last week. Cool was on that Louisville 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.440 team was a wide receiver and then I'll play with 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.520 Harry and Tennessee. Uh when the Tians and we always 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.560 joked about that game. He said it ruined his life. 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:00.680 But that was kind of our moment Rutgers. You know, 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:03.600 a big game. I go Thursday night football. Always used 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:05.440 to joke when I got in the league that in 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:07.560 the Big East we have prime time games because we 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.480 played on Thursday night and everybody in the country was 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:13.080 washing because there was no other game on. So for 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:15.720 us to win that game in that fashion with Eatle 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.120 hitting that kick and not only was the kind of 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.080 Rutgers coming out party. But I think about coming into 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.240 Rutgers with a guy like Ray Rice, that was kind 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:25.719 of his coming out party that really put him on 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.960 the map and in turn kind of helped the entire university. 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.280 So I can just remember how much fun that game was, 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:33.840 all the fans storm in the field at the end 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.440 of it. Like you said, it was pandemonium that night. 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:39.760 So that'll be one that we always remember. Yeah, Devin, 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:41.920 you guys were just getting started, but have some some 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.200 really solid years of Rutgers, which but at that time 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.440 wasn't necessarily known as a place to go play if 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:49.480 he wanted to play in the NFL. But but being 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:50.960 a Jersey guy and just be a part of the 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:54.599 early teams that had to be gratifying. It was funny, 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:56.400 you know, going to Rutgers. That's when they used to 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:58.480 joke that Rutgers was a hundred and twenty out of 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:02.640 a hundred and twenty universities in Division World football. So um, 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:04.479 and I think, like Jason, I think for us in 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:08.000 that time period, you know, the Kenny Bridge to Taekwon Underwoods, 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.440 us playing Jeremy Suits, Like, we had so many guys 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.360 who left Rutgers and ended up having you know, pretty 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:17.640 good NFL careers. UM at that time, we didn't know 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.600 anything about the NFL really. We all just were, Hey, 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:22.920 we're at Rutgers. We're trying to make history and we 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.320 did and we all shared a lot of fun and 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:28.680 you know, coach Hanno really put something together back then 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:30.680 that was special that, like Jay said, a lot of 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.200 us will remember that moment, but a lot of those 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:36.760 moments with those guys on those teams. You guys obviously 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:38.800 got to the league two different paths, and we'll get 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.400 to that will backtrack, but I want to start with 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.479 because super Bowl is on everybody's mind right now, the 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:47.200 super Bowl after the two thousand and eighteen season, the 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:50.080 super Bowl fifty three, when you guys finally get a chance, 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.760 you know, play together. And what's special about it is 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.159 what goes into it, right and the past that these 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:58.880 guys take to get there, I think, or what draws 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:02.800 fans in and and Jason, your path was a winding one. 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.359 So before you joined Devon with the Patriots, you're on 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.160 the team that didn't win any games in Cleveland. Man, 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:10.839 I hate to bring up a bad memory, but it 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:12.960 sets the stage right how sweet. It was once you 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:14.719 got to the Patriots and played in the Super Bowl. 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:18.240 So what was that like, you know, navigating from from 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.600 this situation in Cleveland to joining Devon in New England. 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:24.480 How that came about? Man, you can't write it up 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.960 any better. I usually tell people I don't talk about 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:29.600 my ninth year in the league because I was down 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:31.920 in Cleveland. I kind of just used that as just 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:35.440 a blank year, like it didn't exist. But I mean 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:38.800 it was incredible. I remember going from Cleveland and New England. 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.840 That first game we played the Houston Texans at home. 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.520 Deshaun Watson was coming off his a c L the 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.479 year before, and when we won that game, I was 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.200 fired up in the locker room. And I remember talking 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.880 to Josh McDaniels after that game at Saint That was 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:56.960 the first game I won, and over a calendar year, 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.479 because it had been since I was in Tennessee with 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:01.880 the tie that had won a game. So, I mean, 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.320 just that was kind of the startup of it all, 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.400 and just kind of throughout the course of that year. 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:08.120 Like you just said, my career was kind of a 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:11.080 windy role and that season was the first game versus 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.160 Houston I played five plays in that game, and then 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.080 things happened and ended up playing more and was kind 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:19.840 of up and down and ended up kind of solidifying 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.600 myself on the other side of step with J. C. 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.720 Jackson and John Jones that year and just going on 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.840 to the Two Bowl myself. Josh Gordon wasn't playing in 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.400 the game but was on the roster, and Danny Shelton. 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.520 Us three were all in Cleveland the year before, and 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.400 I remember taking a knee on the sideline as the 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:40.840 confetti's falling and hugging it out with Dev and then 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:44.120 looking at Danny Shelton and just saying, like, Yo, we 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:46.800 made it from where we were last year, we're that season. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.280 And to think that we'd be standing on the field 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.840 with confetti on the floor around us, uh, crowned as champions. 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:54.440 I mean, none of us would have thought at that 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:56.560 point that was gonna be in the cards for us. 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.520 Just a year later, looking back to the confetti because 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.040 that's a sweet moment. But but Devin talking about the 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.560 conversation with Bill Belichick just to try to convince him 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:08.760 that your twin brother could also play and help the team. Yeah, man, 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:11.600 I think it comes with old agent and being in 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:15.320 the NFL for a while. I still remember Um at 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:16.880 the end of his season, I'm like, what are you 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.240 gonna do? Like, you can't, you can't stay in Cleveland 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.000 like it's about to be a year or ten, like 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.680 you just there's no point of still playing football and 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:26.200 not trying to win. And I remember the day he 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:27.880 called me and he was like, yeah, I just talked 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.880 to the GM. Uh They're gonna release me. Uh so 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:33.960 I'm out of here. And I was like all right, um, 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:35.400 all right, let me see what I could do. So 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:39.640 I actually called Brian Flores, uh call Flow and I'm like, hey, 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:43.000 J just told him he's getting released. Uh what you think? 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.600 He was like, Um, I said, should I just call Bill? 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:48.640 He said yeah, called Bill? So of course I text 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:53.560 Bill Modern Technology Tech Bill and was like, Jay's getting released. 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.920 I just think too, McCarthy's are better than one. And 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.760 then like forty five minutes ago by I had already 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:03.719 take Jay, like I guess Bill disagrees to report it 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:06.600 might not be better than one. And then he actually 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.679 ends up calling me almost like an hour later, and 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.839 I was like, yeah, we're just gonna trade for him. 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:14.760 Where you get this thing done now? I'll get him 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.079 on the team. And I was the first person. I 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.559 faced time Jay right after then we faced time my 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:22.880 mom and was like I told jess, hey, welcome to 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.120 the Patriots, and he's looking at me like what are 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.560 you talking about. I was like, man, we just tried 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:29.600 a three. You come into the Patriots and the rest 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.640 was kind of history. That's all s It wasn't one 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.640 of those trades that kind of blows up the bottom 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.480 line on ESPN. I was swapped a couple of late 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.480 round raphics. But the the the offshoot is, Jason, you 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:43.120 get to go to an organization where not only the 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:45.440 winning games, you're expected to win Super Bowls. Right, so 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.040 before we get to know all the fun in Atlanta 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:49.400 at the end of the season. Now you're coming on 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:53.280 board with Devon and the expectations are totally different. And 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.280 and you know, what was that like coming into a 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.040 group of guys that you already had a couple of 0:09:58.120 --> 0:09:59.760 rings at that point, Evin as it all, I mean, 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:01.360 bray at it. I don't know how many five or 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.320 six at that point. What was it like coming into 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:06.240 that locker room and just being so starving for a win, 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:09.640 being surrounded by dows it have already achieved a lot. Yeah, 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.320 I remember talking to my wife and saying, this is 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.960 gonna be a fun and a challenging year because I 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:17.280 know for myself, I've been in Tennessee for eight years, 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:20.040 Cleveland for one, and throughout my years there have been 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:22.840 a team captain, had been one of the best players 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:25.440 on my team, have matched up against the other team's 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.400 best receiver for some of those years, and I knew 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.480 I was a player that can compete and was one 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.560 of the better cornerbacks in this league, and that upcoming 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.000 season at that point from me was gonna be really telling, 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.240 because I said to myself, like, now you're gonna have 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.840 to do it on a good team. What an expectation 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:43.320 is to win, not like we're just going out there 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:45.440 to see where we're gonna end up. And I think 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:48.520 that brings a totally different pressure. And I remember talking 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:51.200 to Dev about it. It's different being on the Cleveland 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.480 Bronze where you're owing sixteen and you're going to every 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:57.080 game and if you win, everybody's surprised. Opposed. Every time 0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:00.439 you show up on Sunday, everybody's giving you their shot 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.320 because you're the top dog. You're at the top of 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:04.760 the hill, and I remember talking to Bill when the 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:07.439 trade happened, and I flew up to Foxborough and had 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:09.440 a meeting with Bill, and one thing he said to 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.760 me was, Hey, you'll be able to bring a very 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.400 unique perspective on this team. It was just like, we 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:16.640 have some guys that have been here for I think 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:18.559 at that point it was maybe the last two or 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:20.360 three years. That day I went to the Super Bowl 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:22.600 back to back to back years, He's like, we have 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:24.520 some guys here that doesn't They don't they don't even 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.640 know what it's like not to win, and they think 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:29.600 is all because of them. He was just like, your 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.520 perspective coming in. I was in a season in Tennessee 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.880 where we were two and fourteen. Another year we were 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.360 three and thirteen. I've never made it to a playoff game. 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.040 And I think it all kind of fell in at 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:42.400 the right time, me being there, being able to bring 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.640 some leadership, and being able to bring a perspective of hey, fellas, 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.520 we can't take this for granted and you have to 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.160 make the most of each moment because you don't know 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:51.120 when you're gonna get your opportunity to be back here. 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:54.199 So it was challenging and exciting at the same time, 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:57.640 and I'm just happy it worked out. Devin the previous 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:01.120 year that when we're talking about two thousand seventeen season, guys, 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.720 super Bowl fifty two to the Eagles. It was a wild, 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.840 high scoring game that they scored in the Philly Special. 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:09.520 So coming into eight team, you're coming off that stinging 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:13.719 loss where um, you guys are close. I do want 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:15.160 to get to what it's like to lose the Super 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:18.240 Bowl game, because to get to that stage and win 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.920 it is sweeter, but to come short, especially in the organization, 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.560 it's one a couple. Wasn't the first time you you 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:26.520 were part of the team that lost to the Giants? 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.920 The Manningham catch that drive late? So what before we 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.319 get to the glory, what was it like to walk 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.600 off the field second best on Super Bowl Sunday when 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:39.160 you're you know, this close to another one. I is devastating. 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:43.840 I listened to Tom's post game UM news conference after 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:46.800 they lost to the Rams, and that's the reality of it. 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:48.719 Like he said, he said, you know when you make 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:52.679 the playoffs, each time one of the team's seasons come 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:56.600 to an end, and it's like a car crash. It's terrible. 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:59.360 It's a horrible ending, and then the next week it's 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.280 even worse, and then that and then ultimately you make 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.480 it to the super Bowl and one of those teams 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:07.080 is gonna have one of the worst endings that you 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.600 can think of. And that's exactly what it's like. I remember, 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.560 I still vividly remember losing to the Giants. This is 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:14.960 my second year in the NFL. We make it all 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.520 the way to the super Bowl, and the whole time, 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:20.960 naturally as a competitor, as a player, you're just like, 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:22.839 all right, we're competing. I'm doing all of this, and 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:24.679 then we're gonna be super Bowl champs, Like that's all 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.080 you think about, Like gonna be Super Bowl chaps. And 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.400 then that that as that last play falls and we 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:32.760 throw to Hail Mary and the confetti starts shooting out, 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.240 and you know, all of the Giants players are running 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.360 on the field. You like, I remember just sitting on 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.960 the bench like wait, the game's over, like what, like 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.319 what now? And and then Philly the same thing. You 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.080 get in the locker room and it's just a terrible ending. 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:48.760 You know, guys are crying, it's dead silence, like it's 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:52.000 just something that was so special. You know, I always 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.240 tell guys, when you don't win that that last game 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:57.240 of the year, however specially you thought that team was, 0:13:57.360 --> 0:13:59.680 that team will be forgotten. You know, no one really 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.480 ever talks about the teams that won the a f 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.360 C R NFC championship. And that was it. Um. And 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:08.000 that's what the kind of ending is. It's you take 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:09.640 a lot of times, you take a week or two 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.160 to kind of get back into a routine with the 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.600 rest of the world. You kind of hide out. Um. 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:17.800 You just you just feel like you let yourself down 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.440 and everybody else around you down when you lose that game. 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.080 And eventually you kind of build back up and you 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:25.600 get ready to go to next year. But it's a 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:27.640 it's a tough couple of weeks when you lose that 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.240 last game. Yeah, I don't know what it's like to lose. 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:35.560 I don't know what it's like. I got you. But 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:37.600 but you come onto this team and and and Devin, 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:41.040 how much did you want it for Jason? You want 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:42.880 it for yourself, You want it for everybody that's coming 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:45.360 up that stinging pain. But going into eight team season, 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.760 now you got your your brother alongside as you said, 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.360 you've not you didn't get close to it. How much 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.160 did you want one for him as well as yourself? 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.600 I mean, honestly that last game, you know, especially as 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:00.800 we want in the confess, like I felt like I 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.440 was kind of outside, you know, almost like outside the 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:07.600 house looking in at him, just because of everything he 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:09.920 had went through and you know, just the purity of 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.400 it all. Like after we win the NFC Championship against 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:14.880 Kansas City, we come back the next day and we 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:16.960 have our Super Bowl meeting. And the Super Bowl meeting 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.920 is probably like fifteen minutes in total, Like we're going 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:22.880 over hotel to like, we're going over everything, and it's 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:26.120 still only fifteen minutes, and we all walk out and 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:29.320 Jay's like, wait, wait, wait, wait what happens to He 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:32.040 was like like that meeting was way too short, Like 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.360 my bad, because all you guys have gone to four 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:37.480 Super Bowls, but like nobody answered any of my question. 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:41.240 And we cracked jokes on him from the time we 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:43.760 won the nc Championship game all the way to the 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:46.240 end where we won the whole thing, because he just 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:50.320 media day, media, the big media day, then the media 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:52.600 that you have to do every day. He was just 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:56.440 always chipper excited and ready to go um and it 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.000 was great. I think, you know, we did. Obviously, we 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.520 have a lot of spoiled guys on our team. You know, 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.560 I've played in five super Bowls, like that was my 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:06.720 fifth super Bowl, playing in uh in my ninth year, 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.920 Like that's just ridiculous to think about. And he brought 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:13.160 that sense of like, hey, guys, like this isn't every day. 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:14.720 Like I'm gonna show you guys how you need to 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:18.360 take full advantage. And he did just that. How do 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:22.600 you remember, Jason, Yeah, very that that logistics me and 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:26.320 he said fifteen minutes. It was probably five minutes. They 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:27.960 got up there, and was just like, I mean, this 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.840 is our third year going and most of you guys, 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:33.840 you know, you know the drill. If any of the 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.320 new guys have questions, just come fine, man, I'm just 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:39.200 like that's it. That's all we're gonna do. And he's 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:41.320 right though the meet any and everything that had to 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.440 do with the Super Bowl those two weeks leading up, 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.400 I was all in for it. I told my wife, 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:50.120 we talked about I'm gonna enjoy every single moment of 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.560 this super Bowl, whether it's we get there on Monday 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.880 and we go out with the guys. I'm gonna enjoy it. 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:58.000 Whether it's the practice were on Georgia Tech campus and 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:00.640 the whole nine with everything, I'm gonna or the bus 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:04.400 rides from the hotel to the practice space, I'm gonna 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:06.600 enjoy it. I'm gonna make the most of it, especially 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:09.080 because at that point I got traded. I only had 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.560 a year left on my contract from Cleveland, So this 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:14.600 was not only a chance to win the Super Bowl, 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.439 but this is also a chance to play alongside my brother, 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.119 where I didn't think that it was gonna go past 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:23.720 that one season. So man, I I took it all in. 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.359 Leading up to that game, I was fired up. Uh 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:30.639 told family, every my my mom, everybody was there, and 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:32.400 I just told him I was gonna enjoy it because 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:34.960 I knew and I think to what he said. That 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.440 was his fifth super Bowl. It was my fifth super 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.440 Bowl as well the previous four. I went to all 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:43.240 of them, and I hosted the family. Uh just try 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.240 to go down for the entire week, and I would 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:47.920 be in constant contact with deav where just like, Hey, 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:50.480 whatever you need me to do to help you focus 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.159 on the game, just let me know like, this is 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:55.399 what I'm here for, and like we always kind of 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:57.959 explain it is just like you're that kid who doesn't 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:01.680 have the family atmosphere that you want, and Christmas comes 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:03.920 around is one of your favorite holidays, but you've never 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.240 been able to celebrate it with your family. But you 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:09.479 have neighbors that they have the biggest and the best family, 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:11.520 and it's like Christmas morning, you just stand in their 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.920 driveway and you just look through the window and you're 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:17.520 watching them celebrate Christmas, and you've always wanted it for yourself. 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.400 And that's what a sad sense I mean that that's 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:25.480 brotherly love. You. You're doing unselfish stuff. You're just looking 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:33.679 through the window at other people having fun. Guilty In 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:35.800 a way, I was like, man, I hope you I 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.000 hope he gets to do this one day. But I 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:39.919 was like, man, also in a way, I want to 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:41.760 just keep doing this. If he could come on board, 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:43.840 he can, But if not, I don't want to stop 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:47.639 losing for him to win. That's for sure. You get 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.320 into the game. It's the Rams have hyped their offenses, 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:53.840 one of the top scoring offenses in the league. Jared 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:56.960 Goffs pitching around like Bays calling these ball plays and 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:00.639 then you guys go in and you absolutely smother holding 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.520