1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Native lampod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Reason Choice Media. 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 3: Home, y'all. 5 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: This is this week's mini pod. We have a continuation 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: of our conversation. We started talking about what happened the 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: fallout with Chili, their likes on social her shares, reposts, 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: her politics perhaps, and we also had a conversation about 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: Nick Cannon's car ride with Amber Rose. Of course, these 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: are just the latest examples of people who are in 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: the public eye who support Donald Trump, or at least 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: appear to. 13 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 3: I think the question I would like for us. 14 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: To focus on on this part of the show is, 15 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, what is the barometer for how people get 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: held accountable? Can they come back? If they can come back, 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: how do they come back? And really how we hold 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: ourselves accountable for the hypocrisy that exists. And you know, 19 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: the folks who drive tesla's, or the folks who use X, 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: some of us who still pay for you know, to 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: make sure that we keep a blue check because we 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: think in some way that means they won't hack into 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: our accounts or whatever. 24 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 3: Our justifications might be. 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: Those of us who use or overrely on Meta who 26 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: still have iPhones. These are all of the companies and 27 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm just named some who have compromised on DEI who 28 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: have donated to Donald Trump. Some folks are still watching CBS. 29 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: We use CBS clips on here. We know that the 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: Ellisons are diehard Trump supporters. And now, of course TikTok. 31 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: So where do we draw the line? 32 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 4: Y'all? 33 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: Right, that's the question I really have, And I don't 34 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: have the answer here. I'm not calling people out for 35 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: hypocrisy's sake. I'm telling you what I'm using as well, right, 36 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: So I'd love to have this conversation and figure out 37 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: how we draw the line. 38 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: Where do we draw the line? 39 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: Can I layter on? 40 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 5: Just so just another example? Yes, So take for instance 41 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 5: Target and Walmart. Walton's big Republican donors probably have done 42 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 5: more damage than we could name through their political contributions 43 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 5: to the hard right and Mitch McConnell and his high 44 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 5: way robbery of Supreme Court justice seats, which again we're 45 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 5: filling the effects of and will continue to for the 46 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 5: next twenty thirty forty years. But when we launched a 47 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 5: strike on Target, a lot of folks were saying, well, 48 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 5: why not Walmart two? And I was rationalizing in my head, 49 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 5: and again this is a rationalization. I kept thinking my 50 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 5: trust level had gone respecting trust level had accelerated for 51 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 5: Target during this sort of awakening we experience after the 52 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 5: death of George Floyd. 53 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: And I was really proud to. 54 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 5: Spend a little bit more money with them than some 55 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 5: of their competitors. And so when their wholesale abandonment it 56 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 5: felt like came down through the shifts following the Trump 57 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 5: administration's demands, with no defense for the actions they had taken, 58 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 5: right just just to flat out like okay, we're done 59 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 5: with this next move on. It felt like a betrayal. 60 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 5: And so even though I know that the Waltons give 61 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 5: in that their money impacts us in harmful ways. For me, 62 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 5: I spend less set Target than I do probably a 63 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 5: lot of other places. I have withdrew all of my 64 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 5: resources from there, and having walked back in the door 65 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 5: since it's been announced and have no plans to that. 66 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 4: Was a betrayal that felt very. 67 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 5: Personal, and I felt a little stupid by it because 68 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 5: I believed and so I don't know how we I 69 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 5: think in some ways some of the artists that you 70 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 5: mentioned have that same kind of an effect. 71 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 4: It's like, okay, cool, so long as. 72 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 5: You're singing in and I don't know about your political leanings, 73 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 5: and this is that, and third and what you're doing, 74 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 5: how you vote or if you vote, that kind of thing. 75 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 5: But then when it comes into focus and now I 76 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 5: see that, no, this isn't like a passing phase, like 77 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 5: this is what you believe, who you are. It then 78 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 5: affects me like a betrayal. And so even though other 79 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 5: artists may you know the guy we jelly roll or 80 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 5: whoever you know play, I ain't never bought his stuff, 81 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 5: but if he comes in the radio sounds good, I 82 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 5: might listen and so on. But if they do, I'm 83 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 5: gonna change the station. I'm going to do what I 84 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 5: can to avoid them. I'm going to whatever, because there's 85 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 5: a hurt feeling there, so I don't It doesn't completely 86 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 5: answer your question, Angela, but I do wonder like, Okay, yeah, 87 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 5: there are a lot of people who harmful things, But 88 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 5: the thing that then drives me to action is the letdown, 89 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 5: the betrayal, because I had an expectation to begin with. 90 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 4: I think I'm sorry. 91 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 2: I think some of this is that people do I 92 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: think two things are true. 93 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 6: One is that it's often used as an excuse, right, 94 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 6: that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. But I 95 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 6: also think that that is a painful thing to admit 96 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 6: because we want to be altruistic. People want to stand 97 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 6: for something, We want to believe in something, and yet 98 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 6: some of the most ubiquitous items in our lives are compromised, right. 99 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 6: And it's very difficult unless you were going to go 100 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 6: live completely off the grid and become a hermit, to 101 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 6: not engage with a company that has donated or worked 102 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 6: against your interests. And so I think that what people 103 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 6: then do is they try to at least have something 104 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 6: that they can stand for. 105 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 7: Right. 106 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 6: So if I can't stand against all of it, I mean, 107 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 6: this is going to air on YouTube, right. Google is compromised, right, 108 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 6: And yet especially with these platforms, I don't want YouTube 109 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 6: to be without voices like yours, right. I think it's 110 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 6: I left X very early on. I got my blue 111 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 6: check back. I never paid for it, but they put 112 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 6: it back and I had nothing to do with that. 113 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: I just want to be very clear. 114 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 6: But like I locked my account, the bio says I'm 115 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 6: not here, and we see what's happened to that platform. 116 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 6: It is not a place for any kind of reliable 117 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 6: news conversation information, in part because of a great part 118 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 6: because the algorithm intentionally ruined the ability for people like 119 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 6: us to be heard, but also because a lot of 120 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 6: us got off and went elsewhere, And so there's as 121 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 6: The second piece is that there's a cost benefit analysis 122 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 6: that I think people do, and I think that that 123 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 6: is I think we have to understand that for people 124 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 6: as humans, right like it is if you've got books 125 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 6: to sell or a side hustle, were you trying to 126 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 6: sell some merch to people. Getting off of Meta is 127 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 6: not quite so easy when you're trying to keep food 128 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 6: on your kids table. But you don't have to buy 129 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 6: that concert ticket. You don't have to go to Target 130 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 6: for that item that you can often buy in other places. 131 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 6: I haven't been to Walmart since I was in college 132 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 6: and was doing going to labor protests, right like, I 133 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 6: haven't been to Walmart in a while, So we really 134 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 6: had to rejigger when it was when it was time 135 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 6: to say goodbye to Target. But the cost benefit analysis 136 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 6: was that this is something I can stand for, even 137 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 6: when I can't stand for all all of the other 138 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 6: things and ways that my consumption is already compromised. 139 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: Let me ask you, but it's true. Let me ask 140 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: you this really quick. On this point. You don't have 141 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: to buy that concert ticket. An author does not have 142 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: to sell their books in Target or Walmart. Right, there 143 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: are these, there are these other and and to Andrew's 144 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: point earlier we were talking about the struggles. 145 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 3: Don obviously is. 146 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: No longer a part of in Vogue, the one who 147 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: has been living out. 148 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: Of her car. 149 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: But there are other members of these groups in Salt 150 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: and Pepa in in Vogue who don't have any like 151 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: not even the t n LC. They don't have anything 152 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: to do with what's happened, and they will feel the 153 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: impacts of people not going to the concert. Now I've 154 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: had conversations with some folks around them. Sounds like ticket 155 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: sales haven't been impacted, really, like if we're just being 156 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: completely honest, and so I'm just curious to know again, 157 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: where do we draw the line and why? Like what 158 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: what is uh? 159 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: What is the line? 160 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 5: Like? 161 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: Why is the line the concert ticket? 162 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: And why is not the line going over to support 163 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: spill or going over to support what's the one? Isaac 164 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: Cayes has what's the one of that fan base? Like, 165 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: why is the line to punish the black person? Is 166 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: it because the expectations are hired for us like we were, 167 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: like like Andrew talked about the disappointment with Target, Like 168 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: I get. 169 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: Think that's a fair question. Yeah, I will just say 170 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: on the concept. 171 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: So for me, for example, and I really can't have 172 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: the answer, it's not a loaded when I really am 173 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: curious to here, Yeah. 174 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 6: And I don't think that. I think the hard thing 175 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 6: here is that the answer is not standard across. 176 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: The board, and we just need to go ahead and 177 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: admit that. 178 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 6: For me, I don't want to be on my Instagram 179 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 6: shaking it at a concert that I would have very 180 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 6: much enjoyed and then have people who look to me 181 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 6: and my platform questioning what I'm telling them right, or 182 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 6: questioning my loyalty or fealty to justice. And that's that's 183 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 6: not to say that I depend on what other people 184 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 6: think in me, but for me, that was part of 185 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 6: the that's right that I don't want to unintentionally send 186 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 6: a message that nobody's forcing me to send. 187 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 3: But are we sending hard number? Car? 188 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: And then I promise I want you to wait in here, 189 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: because I want you to actually answer this. Are we 190 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: sending that same mixed message is if where they go 191 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: to find the message is on these same compromised platforms. 192 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is. 193 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: If where we're informing them is on a platform that 194 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: has overwhelmingly supported Donald Trump monetarily he was taking off 195 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: of those platforms, he was put back on those platforms, 196 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: if where they can find us saying these things are 197 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: on these platforms that have supported Donald Trump in a 198 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: much more full throateded way than Chili or even Nick Cannon, 199 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 1: who passively says, I asked what Trump. He sounds like 200 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: he's joking. 201 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: We don't know. 202 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: I haven't talked to him. But let's say that that's 203 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: the case. Are we complicit in that point at that point? 204 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: B Yeah, I mean, and. 205 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 6: I think that there's a difference in locus of control. 206 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 6: Go ahead the other beat. 207 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 3: You sound like my mama. My mama says locus of control, 208 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: go ahead. 209 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 4: I don't know. I just think we're thinking too small. 210 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 7: And the reason being is because I'm not going to 211 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 7: indict Britney Pacneck Cunningham and her life's long work for 212 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 7: torking at a TLC concert. 213 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 4: I'm just not the exception. You're not You're the exception. 214 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not because I don't because I'm not going to. 215 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 4: I don't look. I don't look at people for an action. 216 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 7: I look at people for their habits, right, I don't 217 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 7: judge people off of one failure. If you make those 218 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 7: failures habit, then we have an issue. I'm on Twitter 219 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 7: because I feel like there has to be voices there 220 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 7: like mine. I'm on Twitter because of course I sell 221 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 7: books there. I actually got the eight dollar trade what 222 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 7: you call it, because I was afraid that without double 223 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 7: authentication that I would be compromised and hacked. 224 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 4: Does that make. 225 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 7: Yeah? I mean I was like, look they giving away, 226 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 7: you got to pay eight dollars a month for the authentication. 227 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 7: I know who Elon Musk is, I know how dangerous 228 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 7: he is. That doesn't mean that I'm not out here 229 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 7: talking about Uh. The fact that I believe Elon Musk 230 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 7: to be the epitome of what a white supremacist is 231 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 7: that his worldview is rooted in racism, right, that that's 232 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 7: how he was born, It's a culture that he's he is. 233 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 7: He literally imported more racism to this country than you 234 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,239 Speaker 7: can probably imagine, right. 235 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 4: And so, but I don't think that. 236 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 7: I don't think that you can conclude that I'm something 237 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 7: else because I have an eight dollar subscription to Twitter, 238 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 7: and I know that people do those things and I 239 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 7: disregard them. Went to Breezy Ball, I mean I did. 240 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 7: I thought it was one of the greatest concerts I've 241 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 7: ever been. 242 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: To me about the slide, Chris Brown, Yeah, okay, all right, 243 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: well that happens some people. 244 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I did, but I like this moment. 245 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 7: Let's like I own it. I own it, and I'm like, so, 246 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm not gonna tell you who I was 247 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 7: there with, but. 248 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 3: Do you still listen to her Kelly? 249 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 4: No, well no I don't. I don't consciously on the occasion, 250 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 4: but like. 251 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 7: If somebody plays, I believe I can fly at an 252 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 7: elementary school program. 253 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 6: I'm not down elementary for. 254 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: The national anthem. 255 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 4: I stayed for the national anthem. 256 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: I haven't. But this is what I mean about personal. 257 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 4: But it is it is. 258 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I know, man, I know so 259 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 7: many black folks right now that are dying for this 260 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 7: country is as bad as this country treats us. And 261 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 7: I think that I think what I'm saying saying is 262 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 7: that black folk have a uniquely toxic relationship. 263 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 4: With this country. 264 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 7: That it's very difficult for us to begin to nitpick 265 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 7: the toxicity that we're having to deal with today, and 266 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 7: we start we started saying, oh my god, this person 267 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 7: did ex toxic, and then we discount all the good 268 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 7: work that they've done. I think Charlemagne the God is 269 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 7: one of the best examples of that, because he is 270 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 7: one of the culturally most complicated people I know, and 271 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 7: his intellectual curiosity, for example, it drives people wild sometimes 272 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 7: because he asked questions, and there are people who literally 273 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 7: will discount him not knowing the work that he does 274 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 7: in South Carolina, not knowing all of those things. Now, 275 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 7: I don't think he cares a whole lot, but that 276 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 7: is just that's like one example. 277 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 3: And I don't like that you said toxic in the 278 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: same citizens that isn't my brother. I don't like that. 279 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 7: I wasn't calling him toxic by any stretch. But no, 280 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 7: he's one of my best friends in the world, but 281 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 7: not by any stretch. But what I am saying is 282 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,359 Speaker 7: people will discount him because they don't like the intellectual 283 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 7: curiosity that he puts out there or they don't like. 284 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: People don't even call it intellectual. They won't even they 285 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: won't even say that, and that's unfortunate. 286 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 5: Get but I don't believe anybody of the responsibility that 287 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 5: you But I'm saying we do. 288 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 7: We throw the baby out with the bath water too much, 289 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying. And I'm saying that people in 290 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 7: particular are more complicated. And if Britney wants to dance 291 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 7: to TLC as much as we dislike Chili, she should 292 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 7: be able to do that and people will still understand 293 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 7: the work that Brittany Pagnet Cuttingham has done because we're 294 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 7: not intellectually like small. 295 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: I don't like, I don't discide Chili. 296 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm confused about what she's doing, and I want to 297 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: hear from her in earnest and I don't feel like 298 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: I've had that opportunity. 299 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 6: It might have been different if she hadn't lied to us. 300 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 6: I'm not even gonna hold you like I might have 301 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 6: had a different response. 302 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: I might not say she was afraid. 303 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 6: Probably, And here's the thing with Kury, I think that 304 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 6: you're right that black people absolutely have a toxic relationship 305 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 6: with this country. It's part of the reason why when 306 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 6: foreigners jump into our our countries convers political conversations right now, 307 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 6: black people would be like, I don't countess in that right, 308 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 6: and I'm still not going. 309 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: To breeze ball. 310 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 6: Some of that has to do with my own personal 311 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 6: life experiences and the fact that I actually will not 312 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 6: feel physically good in my body standing in there, right. 313 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: And so I think that you're right. 314 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 6: We cannot dismiss all a person does if they make 315 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 6: a mistake, just like we can't dismiss all a person 316 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 6: does if they engage in something that we personally wouldn't. 317 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: And I do think that. 318 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 6: It's dangerous that society has moved to a place sometimes 319 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 6: it's primarily online, but the society has moved to a 320 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 6: place where it's that easy to dismiss people, and we're 321 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 6: not willing to restore to be curious, to ask questions, 322 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 6: to think broadly and longitudinally about somebody's contributions. 323 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: But I also think that when people. 324 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 6: Are hurt by the choices we make, it is right 325 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 6: and community minded to consider their feelings, even if it's 326 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 6: not going to change your actions. 327 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 7: And I will say I will say that, and to 328 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 7: that is because I believe it to be the same 329 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 7: side of the coin is that we expect grace without 330 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 7: extending it to others. And I don't believe any of 331 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 7: the four of us or anybody listening to this is 332 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 7: the shepherd to the grace that I deserve or the 333 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 7: grace that I can give. And I think that a 334 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 7: lot of times we try to own that principle and 335 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 7: we just we we hored grace like it's something that's 336 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 7: bestowed upon us by you know, like we're we're the 337 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 7: creators of it, when we're not. Grace is given by 338 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 7: God and we It's just that is what makes me 339 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 7: a little fickle about this conversation. 340 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 5: I wish try of us actually gave ourselves grace, because 341 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 5: I would argue, amongst the four of us, I would 342 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 5: argue this about your grace deficit that you start by 343 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 5: to yourself, and that it is it is that it 344 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 5: happens that you're given in spades for others. I mean, 345 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 5: I used to say along the trail, how often that 346 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 5: nobody should be judged forever by their worst day. And 347 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 5: those are my words, those were my feelings. It was 348 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 5: a way I could scincly express that while there may 349 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 5: be consequences for the thing that you doing, the choice 350 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 5: that you made. There shouldn't be a lifetime judgment made 351 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 5: of you for that thing. And I think I feel 352 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 5: the same way about all of these other intervals of 353 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 5: accountability that get to be had. 354 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 4: I love my children more than I love my own life. 355 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 4: That feels like some days. 356 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 5: But guess what, Jackson, I saw that you did bad 357 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 5: and poorly on that thing, And did you push your 358 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 5: best into it? No? 359 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 4: You didn't. 360 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 5: Okay, Well, that thing you love, that tablet is coming 361 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 5: with me today and you won't see it again until 362 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 5: this weekend. 363 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 4: And he's gonna have. 364 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 5: An attitute, and he's may cry and go in the corner. 365 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 5: And da da da da doesn't mean I love you 366 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 5: any lesson. In fact, you ought to worry when I 367 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 5: don't take it from you, that's when you ought to 368 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 5: be at concern. So we do these things largely as 369 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 5: an I feel like an outflow because we had expectation, 370 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 5: because we had hopes, because we felt a type of way. 371 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 5: And now that you have now corroded that, I mean, 372 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 5: people sending out there like you is broken my heart. 373 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 5: And I've been six issue lost that race and I'm thinking, 374 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 5: do you think I have been enjoy and its celebration? 375 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 5: And you know no, In fact, I feel very heavy 376 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 5: every day because I feel like I couldn't deliver for you. 377 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 5: And I know what the concert. I knew clearly what 378 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 5: the constant. 379 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 3: Now the people didn't deliver for you. 380 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 5: However you say it, it is still the way I 381 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 5: embodied and embodied it as godly. 382 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 4: I couldn't bring it home, right, And so you telling me. 383 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 5: How bad you feel, like, I promise you you won't 384 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 5: have it worse than me. The worst voice I will 385 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 5: ever hear will be the one of my own and 386 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 5: not anybody, right, So I just think the reason why 387 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 5: we respond and and Brittany, you said this early on 388 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 5: in our conversation, it's sort of this issue or this 389 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 5: question of what we have, what we can accessibly do, 390 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 5: because I can't punish bezos individually right right, but collectively 391 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 5: we might be able to you know, land a finger 392 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 5: nail right on right? The man could you know, makes 393 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 5: more sleeping right than we do a wake for our lifetime. 394 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 5: So anyway, all I have to say, the accessibility thing 395 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 5: really resonated with me because I figured, like, yeah, we 396 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 5: do want a way to feel good about sowing something 397 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 5: into society. And part of our accountability is that, actually, 398 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 5: you know that thing about feeling good about something, that's 399 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 5: what I'm done. 400 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 3: That is it's so powerful. 401 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: And I think the thing that I would ask for 402 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: us going forward from hearing all is that we continue 403 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: to have conversations that have this level of care one 404 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: two the level of nuance, because we can't continue to 405 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: like my biggest pet peeve is when people go on 406 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: social to land blast someone for clicks, for likes, to 407 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: be in the algorithm, to be in that mix to 408 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: go viral. It's irresponsible and I think it is just 409 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: as irresponsible as the action initially taken that you're responding to. 410 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: And so where does the cycle of irresponsibility in Well, 411 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: it ends where we decide to have grace Bakari. Whether 412 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: we are the bestores of that or not, we can 413 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: still choose to walk and move in it to embuy 414 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: for ourselves so that we can offer. 415 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: It to other people. 416 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: If we choose not to do that, I don't know 417 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: what communal love is. I don't know what the village 418 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: concept that we talk about is, Yes, you can come 419 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: to the village to be rebuked, to be held accountable, 420 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: but you should also be taught and love back in. 421 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: I just I don't want to get in the process 422 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: of throwing people away because it ain't that many of us. 423 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 7: And that's we can't throw people away because at the 424 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 7: end of the day that I love you're talking about 425 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 7: that community you're talking about, and this is what people 426 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 7: don't like, and this is the toxic relationship I'm talking 427 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 7: about with this country, is that Black people are forced 428 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 7: to love our neighbors even when they don't love us. 429 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 7: And I think that that is that type of stress, 430 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 7: that type of emotional drain, means that what you said, 431 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 7: Angela was correct, because we're utilizing And that's why I 432 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 7: just and maybe it's me projecting, because I want people 433 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 7: to judge me off the totality of life lived, not 434 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 7: on the failure that we know that I have had 435 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 7: and will have. I mean, it's just I don't know, 436 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 7: it's I. 437 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 6: Also I'm sorry. I also decided a while ago that 438 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 6: instead of bear the shame of feeling like I made 439 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 6: a mistake in public, that I would just be willing 440 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 6: to learn in public, and that as a person with 441 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 6: a burgeoning platform at the time, that I didn't expect, 442 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 6: but that I felt very responsible toward that. What was 443 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 6: going to be important was that as much as I 444 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 6: tend to extend grace to other people more than I 445 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 6: do myself, I wanted to offer the opportunity for people 446 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 6: to see that I am imperfect, and that if I 447 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 6: fall short of my own integrity, right, not of your critique, 448 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 6: but of my own integrity, that I actually want to, 449 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 6: actually want to own that, I want to show my 450 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 6: effort to correct. 451 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: I want to I want to push forward in a. 452 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 6: Way that then invites you to do the same, invites 453 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 6: you to be reflective, right, And whether after that steak 454 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 6: you dismiss me. 455 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: Or not, I will feel good when I lay my 456 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 2: head down at night. 457 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 6: The other thing I've been doing lately is tricking my algorithm, 458 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 6: and I have been complimenting strangers like it is my job. 459 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 6: Like if somebody got engaged, somebody wore a cute outfit, 460 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 6: somebody was like, hey, I've been sober for twenty eight days. 461 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 2: I'm up in them comments. 462 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 3: Like you go, you got it. 463 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 6: We're cheering you on because now my algorithm looks very different, 464 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 6: and I'm not really as tempted to hop into a 465 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 6: conversation to drag somebody now because I'm not even seeing 466 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 6: the dragons. My algorithm is not presenting those things to me. 467 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 6: When I chose kindness first, I got kindness back. 468 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 4: Get it, I get it, get it. Technology doing something right, girl, 469 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:45,479 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? 470 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: Liking workout videos because I'm doing a ninety day challenge 471 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: because your girl gaining twenty pounds, so. 472 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 4: Challenge. 473 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 5: Look, he's been breaking it. You see he talking a 474 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 5: lot less about all them stopped. 475 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 3: You got off your gym clans. 476 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 4: No, I'm back on it. 477 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 7: But I do a lot of hot yoga and pilates too. 478 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: Job, that's why you got the teddy p here. That's like. 479 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 3: Broke headphones. I do not have any grace for them. 480 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: Headphones turn on neck, but we are so great. 481 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 4: Short sleeve turd on that that don't even make no. 482 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: Sense, you know the whole time. But you committed to 483 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: the You committed to the You committed to. 484 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: So y'all, I do want to just say thank you 485 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: for being such a loving place for us to land, 486 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: for us to continue to have communal conversations. 487 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 3: I know that this is just beginning. 488 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: Somebody else is going to disappoint We are going to 489 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: disappoint someone and that's okay. We're just gonna talk about it. 490 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: We still welcome our audience to wait in. Let us 491 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: know how you feel. If you think we hit the mark, 492 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: missed the mark, if you agree with somebody, if you 493 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: didn't agree with somebody, we want to hear from you. 494 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: Make sure you weigh in. We did have a couple 495 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: of listener questions to get to today, but we did 496 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: not get to them. We're gonna do it soon, y'all. 497 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 5: No, but one of them actually was on topic Angelo, 498 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 5: which is around this grace period. 499 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 4: Although he wanted us to talk specifically about art. 500 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 5: Yes, the latest news, and I wonder how our conversation 501 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 5: might change. 502 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: Well, maybe we could do about But I was gonna. 503 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 3: Say, maybe what we could do a g is. 504 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: I know you felt strongly about that one, So maybe 505 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: you could do a straight to camera. 506 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 3: We could put it on social. 507 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 4: It's not about me, I'm interested in y'all. 508 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 3: Oh wow. 509 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: Anyway, Well, it would be good if we could do 510 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: some of those on social as well, to keep the 511 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: questions coming. 512 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 3: In and the comments. 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