1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue, 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman, the Pot Brothers 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis. Hi, 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: it's an higenent Hits Cannabis Talk one oh one, your 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: world's number one source for everything cannabis. And today I 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: am solo again. It is Mark Wasserman of the Pop 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: Brothers at Law. My solo show the other day went 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: so well, my heart decided to go in a different direction, 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: and well you just got me now, alright, just kidding, 10 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm missing Big Blue, Joe Grande and my big brother. 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: They are all out doing fabulous, fantastic things. He has 12 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: me the opportunity to catch up on some way cannabis 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: goes bad, So let's just get right into it. No, 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: do these stories to illustrate that cannabis isn't so legal. 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: People think it's legal. I is to, but yeah, people 16 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: are still getting arrested. So here you go. The headline reads, 17 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: out of the East Bay Cannabis Bus, likely the largest 18 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: in Bay history Bay Area history. More than thirty seven 19 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: tons of cannabis seized, largest bust in Bay Area history. 20 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: That's even larger than the Joe Grande bust. We'll talk 21 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: about that from the Bay Area a long time ago, Joe, 22 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: but in Alameda County here in what the Sheriff's office 23 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: is calling the largest pot bust in Bay Area history. 24 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: And it's just like cops to use that word. I 25 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: threw it in there because it was a quote, but 26 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: I hate that word pot, except when you're talking about 27 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: the pot brothers at law, of course. But let's call 28 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: it cannabis because more than thirty seven tons of the 29 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: plant worth tens of millions of dollars in products were 30 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: seized and multiple raids that span four East Bay cities. 31 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: So far, at least seven people have been arrested. Inside 32 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: one San Leandro warehouse, there were so many cannabis plants 33 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: in so many rooms, deputies had to take a chainsaw 34 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: to cut them all down. Did you hear that a chainsaw? 35 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: They took a chainsaw two helpless plants. I mean, what 36 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: we've talked about this before. Why are you ripping them down? 37 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: Why are you killing medicine that can help so many 38 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: people with cancer that's with PTSD Come hours and go 39 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: down the laundry list of the people who need these 40 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: plants that you're just cutting down with chainsaws. The San 41 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: Leandro facility is just one of eighteen similar warehouses also 42 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: in Oakland, Hayward and Castro Valley busted by Alameda County 43 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: Sheriffs in recent days. They are cracking down. We've also 44 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: seized close to ten million in cash assets, said Sergeant 45 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: Ray Kelly of the Alameda County Sheriff's Department. And we've 46 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: also seized twelve thousand pounds of process product ready to 47 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: be distributed out into the community. That's where, somewhere in 48 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: the neighborhood of forty million dollars now here, I have 49 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 1: an idea. You heard all these big numbers, ten million 50 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: in cash, twelve thousand pounds, forty million in street value, 51 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: but yet they decide to destroy it all, take it 52 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: the chainsaw, cut it down. You know what if just 53 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: what the fuck if they confiscated all those plants and said, hey, 54 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: you guys are doing this illegally. You don't have your 55 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: city permittent, state license. We're gonna take all this, all 56 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: this medicine, all these plans, and we're gonna put it 57 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: in our facility, take care of it, put it out 58 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: on the market and whatever cells, We're gonna put in 59 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: a little fund so you can have the money to 60 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: go legal and licensed. And guess what, then everybody will 61 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: get their medicine that they need. I mean, christ with 62 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: ten million in cash assets, twelve thousand pounds cs, thirty 63 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: seven tons of plants. If they actually did what I 64 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: just said, they could provide all the free cannabis to 65 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: the vets, the cancer patients, to people who are deathly ill, 66 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: and then they can start selling it to everybody else 67 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: because hey, we all need some good medicine. Sorry, I 68 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: had to go off on that little tangent, but that's 69 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: what I think we should do when there's these raids 70 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: instead of cutting down living plants. Authorities believe there are 71 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: as many as half a million plants at all over 72 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: five hundred thousand square feet of warehouses hosting everything from 73 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: mature three footers to tiny starters. Who I wish Blue 74 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: was here to really dig into what's a three footer? 75 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,239 Speaker 1: What's a tiny starter? I mean, I don't know that stuff. 76 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: You know, that's the grower, that's the cultivator. Who, By 77 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: the way, big shout out to all the cultivators out 78 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: there who have been putting their lives on the line 79 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: for years plus to get this medicine to the people 80 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: who need it. Some of them are in jail, which 81 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: is even more ridiculous than all of this cutting down 82 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: of medicine. Now here's where you've got sorry to explaining 83 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: their CEO two being pumped into these rooms. H G 84 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: p A filters filtering the air going out so you 85 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: are not getting the massive odor. That's right. It sounds 86 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: like they were doing something right and making sure there 87 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: was no smell going on. The entire operation is supported 88 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: by an intricate infrastructure air filters, illegal wiring, generate generators, 89 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: water and fertilizers that are toxic spilling into local drainage. 90 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: Now that is definitely a problem. Okay, Now we don't 91 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: condone those who are doing these things illegally, who are 92 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: completely disregarding the environment. Now, mind you, how we know 93 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: growers who are you know, cultivating under rocks somewhere out 94 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: in the mountains and they are doing everything perfectly. They're 95 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: not using toxins and they're not using pesticides. They're not 96 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: harming the environment and letting drainage come off. You know, 97 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: they're not doing it. There are those that are. And again, 98 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: instead of taking all these plants and ripping them down, 99 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: give him a shot, give him a shot to go legal. 100 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: Why not? But because Kelly, you know, Sergeant Kelly, here 101 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: they're basically circumventing the legal system to be involved in 102 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: the cannabis industry. And they're doing that strictly for profit. Now, well, 103 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: I agree. Now here is where I agree. They are 104 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: circumventing the legal system because the way the legal system 105 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: has been set up, especially here in California, it is fucked. 106 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: You gotta have a boat load of money to be 107 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: able to get in. And it shouldn't be like that. 108 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: It should be like other industries where you can, you know, 109 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: start from scratch with an idea how are your room 110 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: and start putting things together, and you know, paying certain 111 00:07:55,480 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: fees that you have to get licensing and do it properly. 112 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: Make it so it can be done. The cannabis is 113 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: being grown illegally, it's untaxed, it's unregulated. It's unregulated and untaxed, 114 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: so taxed regulated. Make it simpler for those who are 115 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: doing it illegal to get involved those who want to. 116 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: Now I'm not blind, there's gonna be illegal cultivators from 117 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: now until forever, and that they're criminals. There are criminals 118 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: out there, and that's their livelihood, that's what they do. 119 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: There are many others out there who are quote unquote 120 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: committing crimes because when the laws changed, especially here in California, 121 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: and mom and pop stores could no longer just get 122 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: up there and do their thing. They had to survive. 123 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we know people who were operating for teen 124 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: years under the Senate bille for twenty here and the 125 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: Attorney General guidelines with a cooperative and medical patients signed 126 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: and paying taxes and doing very well. But then two 127 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: thou nineteen hits. You can't operate like that anymore. You 128 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: must shut down, and you must do it this way, 129 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: and you must have hundreds of thousands of dollars and 130 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: property to do. To me, that's that's just fucked up. 131 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how so out there in Alameda County, 132 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: all of those busts and raids that happened to me, 133 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: the worst of it was that line I read, chopping 134 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: down cannabis plants with chain saws. I hope you feel 135 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: like big bad men. Er. We're having up the chainsaw, 136 00:09:55,320 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: taking it to a plant that can't defend itself. Real good, guys, 137 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: real good. I gotta go take a smoke break, but 138 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: when we come back, I've got more. When cannabis comes back, 139 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: When cannabis goes bad with and elicit cannabis farms so 140 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: huge it's visible from space, We'll be right back after 141 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: Its great. It's Cannabis Talk one oh one. It's Cannabis Talk. 142 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one. It's Martin 143 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,599 Speaker 1: Craig Popper. There's a law Blue and joke Rande. And 144 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: of course, as I said earlier, I am here by myself. 145 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: We got big Big Joe Run and Fantastic Blue out 146 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: there and used to be with covering the counterculture and 147 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one on one was spreading the love and 148 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: sharing all of the great knowledge and information plants. And 149 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: as I said before break, we've got a great story 150 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: here headline from outer space and elicit cannabis farm so 151 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: huge it was visible from space. Okay, so we know 152 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: that nassas in the National Space Station and other such 153 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: spacecrafts to pick up a whole lot of what's happening 154 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: here on the third planet from sign. But it's really 155 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: an indoor cannabis farm last week authorities in Nevada, along 156 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: with an impressive backup of national law enforcers. That's the 157 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: FEDS getting together with state and local authorities. If you 158 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: don't know that, which is happening a lot everywhere rated 159 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 1: what they called the largest illegal cannabis grow in Douglas 160 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: County history. What's going on? First the Bay Area now Vegas, Nevada, 161 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: Douglas County and perhaps one of the largest ever to 162 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: be discovered in the state, which legalized adult use in 163 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: two thousands seventeen. Let's not forget eighty workers. The cannabis 164 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: farm was also the largest employer in the area. They 165 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: had eighty workers, and they had the most employers in 166 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: the area. They were employing eighty people, rival ring several 167 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: similar small grows in Douglas County, which is located some 168 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: twenty miles south of Nevada's Nevada's capital, Carson City and 169 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: borders Lake Tahoe. Now Here are the numbers associated with 170 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: the hundred and sixty greenhouse cannabis grow on twenty two 171 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: acres of land. I mean, this is getting crazy, folks. 172 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: They are starting to bust and locate cannabis farms from 173 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: outer space. I wonder if astronauts can poke up and outer, 174 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: so I guess they could bring edibles. I don't think 175 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: they'd be sparkling anything up, but I wonder if they're 176 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: bringing edibles up into space, edibles in space. Anyways, that 177 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: was another large bust, and as I said, this is 178 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: this is the theme. The theme is bust everybody. And 179 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: then they don't care that they're putting people out of work. 180 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: Look at that eight people who are working here, and 181 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: I ventured to say, you know, right or wrong, A 182 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,599 Speaker 1: bunch of those workers didn't even know that it was 183 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: an illegal place. We get that a lot, and unfortunately, 184 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: there are naive people in the world who are very 185 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: trusting and very gullible, and they get swallowed up by 186 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: those who run places like this, and they show them 187 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: some nice paperwork and maybe some fake licenses or whatever 188 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: they've got and say this is all good. Here, we're 189 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: gonna pay you, and then arraid they're busted there in jail. 190 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: Now you know, we're talking about the authorities taking all 191 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: of these plants, cutting them down. What do they do? 192 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: What do they do with sixty two tons of cannabis? 193 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: According to the newspaper that did the story they buried it. 194 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: There were not and they weren't little plants either. The 195 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: story these plants they cut down were huge. People working 196 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: on site in rugged conditions that wouldn't pass muster in 197 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: any regulated business, tended the plants for months. Residents first 198 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: started reporting the site last summer, even as the last 199 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: embers of the Numbers Fire. We're growing cold, So this 200 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: huge row in Douglas County was getting some attention already. 201 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: The Numbers Fire was a wildfire that burned nearly nine 202 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: acres in Nevada's Pine Nut Mountains in July and damaged 203 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: over a thousand homes. But yet this magnanimous cannabis farm 204 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: was not touched. It survived, but it couldn't survive being 205 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: seen from outer space. Now we go back to We 206 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: go back to the reports from residents who are talking 207 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: about the smell and everything else going on in the area. 208 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: What took the authority so long to raid the site. Well, 209 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: the thought is that law enforcement may have been waiting 210 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: to uncover the source of the funding in hope of 211 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: busting a sophisticated criminal enterprise enterprise and tracking down the kingpins. 212 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: Now this is what happens a lot. They will sit 213 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: on places and do a lot of surveillance, following many 214 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: vehicles from here to there to see if they can't 215 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: find the big guns. Because the big guns the guys 216 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: who run everything, they're in the wind the time, they're 217 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: not down there on the ground at the grows. Those 218 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: are the underlings who you know, there might be a 219 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: CEO of jail, a guy who's paid to look like 220 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: he's running everything when things go south and he's got 221 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: to go to jail for a while, and he's taken 222 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: care of CEO of jail. Meanwhile, when the Douglas County 223 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: Sheriff's Office, the d e A, Homeland Security Investigations, the 224 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: Bureau of Indian Affairs, the FBI, the Washoe Tribal Police 225 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: Department of that A Division of Investigation, and several other 226 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: local law enforcers finally rated the cannabis greenhouses. That's when 227 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: they detend eighty people for questioning, but only two were arrested, 228 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 1: one for an immigration violation and one for possession of 229 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: a controlled substance that wasn't cannabis. So I mean, I 230 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,479 Speaker 1: like hearing that that they let pretty much everybody go, 231 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: the employees who were working there. Again, a lot of 232 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: whom probably didn't even know it was an illegal spot. 233 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: That doesn't happen too often. But they're they're looking at 234 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: the bigger picture and they're trying to get to the 235 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: big guns. So who knows these eight people? You know, 236 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: here's the problem too with criminal enterprise and hiring people 237 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: who don't know you're criminal enterprises. But they're gonna run 238 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: on you. They're gonna give up everything. Now for sure, 239 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: they don't know the names of the people who own 240 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: and run it. You know, it's Bob, you know, that's you, Bob, 241 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: Bob Smith, it's us. The names they do. But they're 242 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: in the wind. But they can talk about the operation 243 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: and we can certainly cooperate. So we'll have to see 244 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: if this story goes anywhere in the future and if 245 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: anybody big is actually taken down. And so I think 246 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 1: i'd say that qualifies. When sixty two tons are taking 247 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,719 Speaker 1: that's when cannabis goes back. And I've got man maybe 248 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: two more. When cannabis goes bad. Stories when we come 249 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: back right after this break, it's Cannabis Talk one oh one. 250 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: It's Cannabis Talk one oh one. Take a hit, get lit, 251 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: and sit back and enjoy cannabis talk one oh one 252 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: Martin Kake Poppler is that law Blue and Joe Grande 253 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: and I am here all by myself today holding it 254 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: down with tons of when cannabis goes bad, because we 255 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: never run out of stories when cannabis goes back. And 256 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: here I have a story straight from brother's that law 257 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: consultation calls and we get them every day, and you 258 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: know our motto, chuck the funk up when cops asked question. 259 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: You know this goes for the airport too, and we 260 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: gotta call the other day and the gentleman who came 261 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: to California from New York I figured to pick up 262 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: about eight pounds, throw it in his backpack, jump on 263 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: an airplane, and dope. So if you're out there thinking 264 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: about doing that, listen to this. He goes through security 265 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: and then immediately flagged his bag. His bag got flagged 266 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: four a box of moist toilets paper. Yes, I once 267 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: got flagged for a box of business ards. So what 268 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: you should know is, you know they're not looking for 269 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: business cards, they're not looking for more moist toweletts. But 270 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: what the X ray picks up is just a big 271 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: mass of something and they're gonna look at that. And 272 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 1: so when they looked at that, they opened it up 273 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: and to smell eight pounds of cannabis. So what does 274 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 1: this gentleman say, But what's the problem. I was here 275 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: three months ago and I brought a pound through and 276 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: the officer let me go. So let me stop right there. 277 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: So what he did was admit two exporting cannabis out 278 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: of l a X, which is a felony both state 279 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: and federal. He admitted it that he had done it before, 280 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: so straight number one. And then he would go on 281 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: to tell them that that's his medicine where he purchased it, 282 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: just the whole kitten caboodle. Now, when you go through 283 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: l a X with cannabis any amount, he's illegal. Let 284 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: me say that again. When you go through any airport 285 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: with cannabis, it's illegal any amount. Now you have places 286 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: like I believe Las Vegas and Colorado, when you get 287 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: to the airport, there's a big sign that says leave 288 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: your cannabis here, no questions asked. Just drop it in 289 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: the box. Whether it's a joint, whether it's announced, whether 290 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: it's whatever it is, edibles, pinksterres, it's all illegal to 291 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: bring on a plane. People do it every day, People 292 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: get away with it every day. Getting away with it 293 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: doesn't make it legal. Belief, Remember that that's what this 294 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: guy thought he got He got away with it last time, 295 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: didn't even think twice about it, and now he's dealing 296 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: with a felony that you know he's he's not a criminal. 297 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: And I talked about that earlier. I've been doing criminal 298 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: defense for twenty six years and maybe five maybe less. 299 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: Of my clients are actual criminals. Professionals, that's what they do, 300 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: and part of their job is going to jail for 301 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: a while, and they keep their mouth shut and they 302 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: do what they do. And this is that the life. 303 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: They call it the life, and it's dangerous and it's scary, 304 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: and there are people that live that life. But the 305 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: vast majority, the vast majority of our clients are not criminals. 306 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: May have done something stupid, may have created or caused 307 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: or was involved in some criminal activity because of bad choices, 308 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: certain circumstances, that doesn't make you a criminal. And unfortunately, 309 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: in this cannabis space, there's so many people who aren't 310 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: criminals who get busted because they don't know the laws. 311 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: They don't understand the laws. They've gotten away with things before, 312 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: and they walked themselves in and talked themselves into horrible situations. 313 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: In this situation here, we're hoping that we can take 314 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: this situation, this felony, and maybe get it reduced to 315 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: a misdemeanor. Now we've been able to do that with 316 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: a lot of success here in Los Angeles out of 317 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: l a X. But it's not going to be that 318 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: easy this time because he told him he'd done it before, 319 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: and they probably just think I had This guy's doing it. 320 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: You know, he's buying it over here. He's bringing it 321 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: over there to sell. All the good ships in California, 322 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: so will come here. You know, we have we have 323 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: people who come here with medical cards from other places. 324 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: They have medical cards here in California. They go to 325 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: legal shops, legal shops and purchase the legal amount. You know, 326 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: with the California Physicians recommendation, you can possess up to 327 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: eight ounces. So we have people who go they go 328 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: to different shops, they buy different burners and cookies and 329 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: you know West Coast cure brot roves and all those 330 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: products that are out there for the taking. For the 331 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: purchase throw them in their backpack or in their check bags, 332 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: and boom they're off and home and the next thing 333 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: they know, they're sitting in cuffs looking at potential felony 334 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: charges because they didn't know. So we are really trying 335 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: to spread that message about flying around with cannabis. I 336 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: don't care. You know somebody who did it, you've done it. 337 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 1: You do it at your own risk. That's the point 338 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,239 Speaker 1: at least, no, because it really bugs me when, you know, 339 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: when when people do that and they come to us 340 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: crying and complaining I thought it was legal. I didn't know. 341 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, you know that cannabis in and 342 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: of itself, it's federally illegal. You know that. You know 343 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: the planes are federal on federal grounds. You know that. 344 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: So I can't feel too bad for you when you 345 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: knowingly break the law and come in and say I 346 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: didn't know. I thought it was legal now and I 347 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: should do a segment called I thought it was legal 348 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: now and start interviewing all the people who got busted 349 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: because they thought it was legal. Now. It is not legal. 350 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: It is partial legalization everywhere. Please remember that wherever you 351 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: live in the United States, wherever you live in the world, no, 352 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: your cannabis laws. No, the consequences of breaking those cannabis laws. 353 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: And if you want to be an advocate and activists 354 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: to the fullest, then you utilize civil disobedience and you 355 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: break those fucking laws and you take the consequences of 356 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: having to go to jail, because that's how it works, 357 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: and that's when cannabis goes. I'm Mark Washerman, little brother 358 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: of the Pop Brothers at Law. This has been another 359 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: fantastic time here at Cannabis Talk one oh one, your 360 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: world's number one source for everything can and remember this, 361 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: nobody loves you, we do. 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