1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back in hour number two Clay Travis buck Sexton 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Show Wednesday edition of the program. Senator Ran Paul will 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: join us on the bottom of the program here at 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour, about one thirty five on 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: the East Coast, and we may have some fireworks coming 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: out of that. 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: We have got a bunch of. 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: Different storylines that are worth paying attention to. But Buck, 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to start there. Seems to be I know 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: we haven't talked much about Iran lately, but meaning in 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: the first hour, we've talked a lot about Iran over 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks. The degree to which Israel 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: has infiltrated the top echelon of the Iranian leadership. They 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: took out another couple of guys overnight. Not a good 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: time to be an Iranian leadership. And Buck, did. 16 00:00:59,040 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: You see this story? 17 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: I read this as a New York Times that top 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: Masad agents are now calling Iranian leaders and saying we 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: know who you are, we know where you are, and 20 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: we will kill you if you do not immediately stop 21 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: supporting this government. 22 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: And they are now able to. 23 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine what that's like with everything 24 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: going on, to have your phone ring pick it up, 25 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: and it's a Masad agent and he's saying, hey, just 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: want you to know we know exactly where you are, 27 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: and we are willing and able to take you out. 28 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: And I saw, and I was reading in the Wall 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: Street Journal this and I thought you would appreciate this, 30 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: the degree to which Israel is able to now target individuals. 31 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: One of the guys was killed sleeping in a tent 32 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: in a park where he thought he could not be found, 33 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: and they were able here. Sorry, I said, is the 34 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: New York Times. Here is the quote from the Wall 35 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: Street Journal front page story. The journal reviewed the contents 36 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: of one call between a senior Iranian police commander and 37 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: an agent of the Masad. Can you hear me? A 38 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: Masad agent can be heard speaking in FARSI. We know 39 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: everything about you. You are on our blacklist and we 40 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: have all the information about you. Okay, The commander said 41 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: in the recording, I called to warn you in advance 42 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: that you should stand with your people's side, and if 43 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: you do, you will and if you will not do that, 44 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: your destiny will be as your leader. 45 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: Do you hear me? 46 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: And then the man responds, brother, I swear on the 47 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: Qur'an I'm not your enemy. 48 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: I'm a dead man already. Just please come help us. 49 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm curious what you think, just from an operational standpoint, 50 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: that Massad would be so embedded that they would be 51 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: able to be calling individuals and letting them know you're 52 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: next on our list. Impactful, non impactful? How do you 53 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: see this going? 54 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 3: Well, it shows how much they've mapped out the human 55 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: terrain even inside of Iran and have an understanding of 56 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: command and control, any ability to directly. It's one thing 57 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 3: to know who's in charge. It's another thing to say, oh, 58 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 3: you're in charge, whoop, not anymore? 59 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 2: Who's up next? 60 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: Yes, that's a whole other level of capability in a 61 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: battlefield situation. And I think, will this be you know, 62 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, this is where you get into. 63 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: Do we think that this will be enough to start 64 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: to push things toward a new future for the Iranian people? 65 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: Clay? 66 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: I just I've seen this play out and now you 67 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: could say, well, look what happened in Egypt with the 68 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: Arab Spring. Although that didn't really turn out the way 69 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: everybody was home in some ways, it's possible that this 70 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: starts to have a domino effect it's hard, it's an 71 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: uphill battle. You still have a lot of people that 72 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: are even lower, Like, here's the problem. How far down 73 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 3: the chain of command do you have ideological hardliners who 74 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: don't want an end to the conflict with Israel. I mean, 75 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 3: they obviously don't want to get bombed continuously, but you 76 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 3: know they want to continue the Islamic revolution that Komani began. 77 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: How many how deep does it go? I don't think 78 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 3: anybody has a really good answer to that. You know, remember, 79 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: this is a country that we haven't had the kind 80 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: of day to day interaction and news coverage with you 81 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: have in a lot of other places. Our insights into 82 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: Iran are always limited by the fact that it's a 83 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 3: totalitarian molocracy, a dictatorship of sorts, and we don't have 84 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: open access to what's going on, and we haven't for 85 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 3: what's the matter forty something years. 86 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: So that's where it is right now. I think. 87 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 3: With the Israelis, a lot of this is also they 88 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: know people that were involved in very bad stuff against Israel. 89 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 3: They know who was making sure that Hezbollah was trying 90 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 3: to kidnap or kill Israelis. They know who was working 91 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: with jimas I mean, they have a pretty good sense 92 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 3: of all of that, and it's score settling time for 93 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: a lot of them after a long time. 94 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: Here's the other part of that article that I wanted 95 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: to hit you with because I did think it was interesting. 96 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: Israel. 97 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: They say this is according to the Wall Street Journal, 98 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: got a tip from ordinary Iranians. They're saying, I don't 99 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: know if this is just disinformation or designed to make 100 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: people even more nervous, that Iranians are now calling in 101 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: location of people in the country to get taken out. 102 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: But the guy's name Sola Miane Solamani. I don't know 103 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: if he's related to the guy that we took out before. 104 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: They say, I'm reading was holding up with his deputy. 105 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: He's in a tent in a wooded area in Tehran, 106 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: and they've now taken out so many of the physical 107 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: locations that the guys have gotten nervous about being in 108 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: any sort of intelligence building, right because there's been so 109 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: many of these taken out. Guys hiding out in a 110 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: tent in a park in Iran with his subordinates. They 111 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: took them all out, so he thought, Hey, maybe I 112 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: can just hide out in this tent. Presumably he's trying 113 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: to avoid all detection, and they were still able to 114 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: take him out. And every morning when I wake up, 115 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: I check the news and it feels like Iran has 116 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: had another leader taken out. To your point, I think 117 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: the challenge is how far down do you have to 118 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: go and how long does it take? Right, Because if 119 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: let's say, you have to knock out the first three 120 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: hundred people on the list of commandos before you get 121 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: to people who want to negotiate. I think the Iranian 122 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: perspective is America in particular is going to run out 123 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: of interest in continuing this, and so you just kind 124 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: of have to hold on until the actual attacks end 125 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: up ending. Right, That's the I would imagine that's the 126 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: best strategy of the Iranians right now. 127 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: They're really hoping, I mean, the the IRGC and what's 128 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: there of the Iranian regime still in place to whatever 129 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: degree that's the case. They're just hoping that domestic political 130 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: pressure helps bring a faster end of this, as in 131 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: Trump doesn't want to burn too much political capital and 132 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: so say all right, we've done it, We've done enough. 133 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: We've showed them whose boss so to speak? What is 134 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: oil now? Clay it just spiked up, right, We and 135 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 3: the Israelis hit a gas field in Iran. Now, yeah, 136 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,239 Speaker 3: I think that's their. 137 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: Entire goal at this point, is to make the price 138 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: of oil and gas go up high enough that the 139 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: United States decides to pull back. I'm hitting it right now, 140 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: ninety seven dollars a barrel. It got up to one twenty. 141 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: The crude oil futures that I'm looking at right now 142 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: is up about a dollar fifty today at ninety seven dollars. 143 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: It's spiked to one twenty last week. Uh uh, and 144 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: so far it's around ninety seven. 145 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: It was a couple hours ago it was one hundred 146 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: and ten dollars, so according to the journal right now, 147 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: looking at so, I mean, it definitely has had a 148 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: bit of a run up. 149 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: Wow. 150 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 3: Can you imagine being on an oil trading desk right now, 151 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: you know, oil futures and everything else. 152 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: No, every time there's a new tweet, every time there's 153 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: a new tweet, you're reacting to try to figure out 154 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: what the legitimacy of it is, and and and all 155 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: of all of those angles. All right, we told you 156 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: we would play this, So I wanted to update you 157 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: on a ran that is the latest that is going 158 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: on there. Let me hit you with this. This was 159 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: center Mark Wwayne Mullen on this program. 160 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: Let me make sure. 161 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: I want to get the date right. The team went 162 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: and tracked it back down, so we're gonna have. 163 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: Brand throw something out there while you're looking this up. 164 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 3: I just want everyone to know we're as soon as 165 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: Senator Mullin is through his confirmation hearing, hopefully at that 166 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 3: point he'll be DHS secretary, or we believe he'll be 167 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: DHS secretary. We'll invite him on the program, want to 168 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: hear about what his priorities will be. And he's welcome 169 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: to also respond to this Senator ran Paul situation. Because 170 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: we're having Senator ram Paul on today, so we're this 171 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 3: is a big public fight between two Republicans. They both 172 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: should be able to have their say. I think Senator 173 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 3: ram Paul is going to be a no vote. We'll 174 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 3: ask him this. I think he's going to be a 175 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: no vote on Mark Wayne Mullen. 176 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: I don't remember Senator Paul taking shots at Mark Wayne 177 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: Mullen on this program. Doesn't mean it didn't happen, but 178 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: this is for sure, Mark Wayne Mullen, this is back. 179 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: The team pulled this November seventeenth, twenty twenty five. I 180 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: remember this conversation vaguely. I'm actually interested to hear it 181 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: as well. Mark Wayne Mullen taking shots at Senator ran 182 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: Paul over drug boat strikes again a few months ago, 183 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: three four months ago, cut thirty. 184 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: I'm going to just pivot back for a second to 185 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 3: the drug boat strikes twenty one so far over eighty 186 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: people killed. Senator ram Paul, your Republican colleague, is very 187 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 3: against these. He has recently said things like color. 188 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 4: Rand as the Republican colleague is pretty loose slipped. 189 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: He is a Republican colleague. 190 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we can talk about how you 191 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: feel about that, but he definitely is a Republican senator. 192 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 3: So what do you think about the concerns about legality 193 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: when it comes to these strikes. 194 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 4: That's well within his constitutional authority to do so. And 195 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 4: so for Ran Paul to quote that, what I always 196 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: say is say, okay, give me in the constitution where 197 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 4: it's not in his authority to do that. Pull out 198 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 4: the part that ram Paul is talking about. But this 199 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 4: is the same Ram Paul that it doesn't vote with 200 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 4: Republicans jophen government. He just recently was trying to support 201 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 4: his plan to THFC levels for consumption in drinks because 202 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 4: he thought it was good for Kentucky's not joking, good 203 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 4: for Kentucky's industry, for himp industry. This is the same 204 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 4: Ram Paul that is constantly looking for an opportunity to 205 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: run against the President of the United States, and so 206 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 4: he's looking for an opportunity anytime he can to distance himself. 207 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 4: I would be a lot better off if Ram Paul 208 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 4: just called himself what he is. He's a libertarian. I'm 209 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 4: perfectly okay with that. But he can't get elected as 210 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 4: a libertarian in Kentucky, so he decides to run as 211 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 4: a Republican. You know, I have more respect for Thomas 212 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 4: Massey than I do Ram Paul, because at least Thomas 213 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 4: Matthew owns who he is. Ram Paul is just whoever 214 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 4: he feels like to be that day. 215 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: So this is again, Buck, I think he nailed it. 216 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: This is not a political disagreement at this point, it's personal. 217 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: So there have been fireworks from the DHS confirmation hearings. 218 00:11:58,920 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: Ram Paul. 219 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: We played you cuts from that and Senator Paul will 220 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: be with us at the bottom of the hour and 221 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: we'll hear from him what he wants, what he wants 222 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: to say, how he wants to respond, and all of 223 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: you guys can judge that as well. We're just talking 224 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: about the situation that is going on right now in 225 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: the Middle East, in Israel and Iran everywhere, and our 226 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: friends at the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews make 227 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: a tremendous difference when it comes to helping people in 228 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: their time of need, whether it's building new bomb shelters, 229 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: whether it is setting up food banks, whether it is 230 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: even putting a hospital in a parking garage beneath the 231 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: hot beneath the hospital itself to protect everyone, all of 232 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: the patients, from the dangers of missiles that might arrive. 233 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: All of these things are tremendously important. They have to 234 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: do with just protecting the innocent, in particular all over Israel, 235 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: and it's what the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews does. 236 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: We would like for you to join us as well. 237 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: I've seen the work that these individuals do. It is fantastic, 238 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: it is phenomenal. It is truly life changing for so 239 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: many people there. And if you have the opportunity, we 240 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: would love for you to join us and help support 241 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: the IFCJ. At IFCJ dot org. I know the organization. 242 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: I know the work that they're doing. 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You don't know what 245 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: you don't know, right, but you just on the Sunday 246 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: Hang with Play and Buck podcast. 247 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay inn Buck. 248 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 3: We're supposed to have Senator Rampaul joining us in a 249 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: few moments, and I think a lot of you are 250 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: going to want to hear it because things got very testy. 251 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 3: Let's be honest, things got a bit personal up on 252 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: Capitol Hill on the in the hearing for DHS Secretary 253 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: nominee Senator Mark Wayne Mullen. So we will hear from 254 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 3: the other Senator, Senator Paul about where he stands on 255 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 3: all this. I also think depends on how much time 256 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 3: we have. We can talk to him a bit about 257 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 3: the Save America Act, which in a lot of you 258 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 3: have questions or thoughts on I should say more thoughts 259 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: than questions like why the heck aren't they passing this? 260 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 3: Clay and I are not senators, so we can't vote 261 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: for it. But doesn't look like it's going to happen 262 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: for a whole range of reasons we've discussed on the show. 263 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: Let's get to some of your thoughts here. Let's start with. 264 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 5: B. 265 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: Kenneth from Melbourne, Florida, hit Bee. 266 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 5: One question I'd like to ask Rand Paul is why 267 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 5: did he decide to go soft on this guy after 268 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 5: he about killed him? 269 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: I mean quickly not. 270 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 5: Pressing charges, never heard anything about it anymore. You know, 271 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 5: we're all supporting you, Rand Paul, and we want to 272 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 5: see this guy prosecuted for assault, and you weren't having it. 273 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: Why does that have to look up? 274 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: I thought that there was a prosecution and the guy 275 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: got punished. 276 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was charged by authorities and convicted for the 277 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen attack. Rand didn't press charges himself, but he 278 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 3: expressed satisfaction with the felony conviction and jail time that 279 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: the individual served. 280 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: But he only served thirty days in jail. 281 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 3: So I mean, you know he was the guy was 282 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: was probably felony, went to prison. I had to pay 283 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: Rand Paul five hundred and eighty thousand dollars in damages. 284 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 3: I don't I don't think. I don't think it's a 285 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: fair line of criticisms to say Ran. 286 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: Paul didn't you know, what going to go after and 287 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: he had to pay? What else is supposed to happen? Yeah, 288 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: I agree. 289 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: I think he should have got more time in prison 290 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 3: personally for an assault like that. I agree, I think, 291 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 3: you know, look, it's funny, actually, Clay, I was even 292 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 3: texting with a friend of mine yesterday who was a 293 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 3: long time violent violent felony prosecutor in New York just 294 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 3: attorney's office there. I was asking him about something that 295 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 3: happened where guy punched a guy. We didn't about this 296 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: fifty five year old who likened a fifty five year 297 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: old fell and died, hit his head. And in these 298 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: things they get very into the specific facts like was 299 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 3: it completely unprovoked? Did they square off? Did the guy 300 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 3: raise his hands? Did the other guy raise his hands? 301 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 3: Was it a sucker punch? 302 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: Did he you know? Is it a senior citizen? 303 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: And all these things come into the equation because people, 304 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: a lot of people who have never been involved in 305 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 3: physical violence don't realize first of all, how ugly it 306 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 3: gets quickly, and also how it can escalate into something 307 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 3: very dangerous, even more so than either party wants it to. 308 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 3: I had a friend who was in college and someone 309 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 3: that he knew got punched on stairs, fell back, hit 310 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: his head, slipped into a coma and died. 311 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: Oh, so that stuff can happen. 312 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: When I was in college, the kid's in Georgetown got 313 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: into a fight Georgetown. One kid punched the other. When 314 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: he fell, he yet his head and he died. It 315 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: was a huge story when I was an undergrad. You know, 316 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: there's a when you're a lawyer, young lawyer, just you 317 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: study a case. It's basically like the thin skuld Plainiff case. 318 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: And for those of you out there that probably have 319 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: not heard of this case, one of the things that 320 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: they examine is to what extent are you libel when 321 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: someone has a unique physical condition which you didn't know about. 322 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: This thin skuld Plainiff, my recollection died because of it 323 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: what should not have been a death blow. But to 324 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 1: the point you're making buck, when you strike someone, you 325 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: don't really know what the overall outcome is going to be, 326 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: and the outcome can be deadly, even for things you 327 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: don't think are particularly deadly in nature. 328 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Ran Paul almost died from that attack on 329 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 3: him and that is established by the medical record. So 330 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 3: these are you know, this is these are the facts 331 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 3: of that of that case. But he did bring it 332 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 3: so rather they did bring felony charges and the person 333 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 3: was convicted. 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We 356 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: are joined now by Senator Rampaul of Kentucky and Senator 357 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: You've made quite a bit of news earlier today and 358 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: the DHS hearings of Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, and I 359 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: guess we just can start off here with a question. 360 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: I don't know that you've officially said one way or 361 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: the other. Based on the questions, it doesn't sound like 362 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: you're going to be voting for him to. 363 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: Be head of DHS. And if is that true? 364 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: And if so, why will you be voting against him? 365 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 6: You know, I guess I'm concerned about anger issues. Someone 366 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 6: leading ice and border patrol issues that basically advocated and 367 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 6: celebrated the violence that was committed about me. I was 368 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 6: attacked from behind several years ago. Six riggs broken, three 369 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 6: of them separated, completely damaged. My long multiple pneumonia's had 370 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 6: part of my long remove nearly a year year and 371 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 6: a half later, And I guess I don't think that's funny. 372 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 6: I also don't think that that's something to be celebrated. 373 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 6: And I wonder if someone thinks that that is to 374 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 6: be applauded, should they really be in charge of ICE 375 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 6: and CVP, who I think they need a better role model, 376 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 6: also has a history of brawling. I mean he got 377 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 6: up to them a committee hearing, threatened someone who was testifying, 378 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 6: said he would jump over the table and follow up interviews, 379 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 6: he said, yeah, people just deserve to be sometimes be 380 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 6: punched in the mouth. He said, well, yeah, there's a 381 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 6: historical precedent for this. You know, we had dueling and 382 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 6: we've had canings, and so I asked him that today 383 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 6: and he said, oh, yeah, we've had duelings. And I said, 384 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 6: when you realize it was still llegal one hundred and 385 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 6: seventy years ago. It's certainly illegal now, but it was 386 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 6: illegal even back then and frowned upon, and people actually 387 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 6: had to travel either to other states or countries to 388 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 6: do dueling because we dis approved of it. Even one 389 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 6: hundred and seventy years ago. But the fact that he 390 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 6: would still think that we should settle our political differences 391 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 6: through violence, I think makes him really unfit to hold 392 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 6: any a position like this. So I will vote against. 393 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 2: Him, Senator Paul. 394 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 3: Just to be clear, because we played some of the 395 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 3: back and forth audio, Senator Mullen has never. 396 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 2: Apologized for what he said. Is that correct? That has 397 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: never happened. 398 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 6: He called me in one discussion and he said, well, 399 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 6: he said what he said today. I hope we get 400 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 6: aside our political differences. Well, our political differences are you know, 401 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 6: we disagree on funding refugee welfare. I'm against giving any 402 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 6: more money for refugee welfare. I would end the programs. 403 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 6: He's for it. That's a political difference. But if I 404 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 6: say that I wish harm on his family or I 405 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 6: wish harm on him, that's not a political difference. That's 406 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 6: an advocation for violence. And Franks, I've been on the 407 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 6: receiving end of violence, and I just don't think it's 408 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 6: good for our country and it's not a good example 409 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 6: for somebody who leads law enforcement where there's been some 410 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 6: questions about the use of force. And so no, he's 411 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 6: never apologized. He was given a chance today, I think 412 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 6: a normal person would have taken that chance and apologized 413 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 6: and said he continued to this bizarre rat that somehow, 414 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 6: when he was an House of Representatives he told this 415 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 6: to my face because he's, you know, such a macho guy. 416 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 6: I don't think I ever met the guy when he 417 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 6: was nouse. I don't remember ever meeting with him, and 418 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 6: I certainly would remember if someone walked up to me 419 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 6: and told me that I deserved to be bushwhacked, you know, 420 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 6: in my yard. So no, I never I'd never met 421 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 6: him before he got to the Senate, and he's never 422 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 6: set it to my face. But it's interesting what he 423 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 6: took umbrage with. He took umbrage with the fact that 424 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 6: I called him a liar, but he didn't never come 425 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 6: out and say, oh, yeah, you know, I was angry 426 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 6: about this vote, and you know, in retrospect, maybe I 427 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 6: shouldn't have. You know, thought that it was a great 428 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 6: idea that this violence was committed against you. But it's 429 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 6: that it's his brawling and Senate committees, it's his referring 430 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 6: to dueling and caning. I asked him if he knew 431 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 6: who Charles Sumner was. I don't think he does. But 432 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 6: Charles Sumner was caned nearly to death. He was came 433 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 6: till he was unconscious. And the reason that that it 434 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 6: kept going is one of the Preston Book's colleagues in 435 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 6: South Carolina came over with a gun and he kept 436 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 6: the others. I always wondered, you know why the senator's 437 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 6: not intervened. The reason they didn't intervene help him. He 438 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 6: was unconscious, bleeding from the mouth, fleeting from his ears, 439 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 6: his skull being crushed by this guy with the cane, 440 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 6: and nobody helps him. But it's because another thug friend 441 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 6: of Preston Brooks was holding a gun to the senators, 442 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 6: keeping them at bay. So, but he brings us up 443 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 6: as a justification. He brought it up again today. He says, well, yeah, 444 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 6: there is dueling, and I said, well, yeah, it's been 445 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 6: illegal for one hundred and seventy years, including at the 446 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 6: time even when they had dueling in the eighteenth early 447 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 6: nineteenth century, most time it was illegal, and most time 448 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 6: they went to some kind of venue to escape being 449 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 6: caught doing doing because it wasn't approved of by most people. 450 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: Senator Paul, can I ask you do you have any 451 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 3: sense that there are any other Republicans who have serious 452 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 3: concerns about this confirmation of the DHS secretary or is 453 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 3: it your sense that you stand alone among Republicans on this. 454 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 6: Probably in the committee, I will be the only one, 455 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 6: you know. Frankly, I suffered for a year or two 456 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 6: with this, had part of my lung remove, so I 457 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 6: do take it kind of personally. I do think though 458 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 6: it's more of a generalized problem, because I think his 459 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 6: resorting to fists and his idea that people sometimes just 460 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 6: deserve to be punched in the face. I think that 461 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 6: kind of attitude would worry me where we you know, 462 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 6: this is what we had with Bovino. When Bovino was 463 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 6: up there in Minneapolis. It was a disaster because he's 464 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 6: marching around with the bulletproof vest, brandishing his weapons and 465 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 6: showing how Tafias and everybody got this sort of macho 466 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 6: complex up there. Tom Holman, who's not a shrinking violet, 467 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 6: went to it and said if any agents misbehaved, they'll 468 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 6: be punished, and he started pulling people off the street 469 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 6: so they weren't in public confrontation every day. You really 470 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 6: haven't seen it in the news and that's sort of 471 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 6: what good leadership would be. But I don't know what 472 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 6: kind of leadership you get from a guy who advocates 473 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 6: fighting in a you know, in the middle of the Senate's. 474 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 3: Hearing, Why home in the DHS secretary, By the way, 475 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 3: that's a whole other Yeah. 476 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: No, I mean, I think that's an interesting question, Senator 477 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: Rampaul with us right now talking about the Mark Wayne 478 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: Mullen hearing and his potential taking over the DHS. Many 479 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: people in this audience, I guarantee you, Senator Paul, and 480 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're going to hear it from the people 481 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: you represent in Kentucky will say Democrats are wrong on 482 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: so much? Why fight internally here over who the president 483 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: wants as DHS secretary? How would you respond to that 484 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: question or that criticism? 485 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 6: You know, I've supported virtually all the nominees. Christy nom 486 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 6: came forward. I did hers in record time, even though 487 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 6: Mullen I don't think, don't like, and don't think he's fit, 488 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 6: and really I think he's just a person. But I've 489 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 6: gotten this nominee done quicker than any other nominee's ever 490 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 6: gotten it. So I'm giving him fair treatment and sense 491 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 6: that he got a hearing in less than two weeks. 492 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 6: He's going to get the vote tomorrow and an all 493 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 6: Likelihod will be approved. But the thing is is, you know, 494 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 6: if this, if this were you, I mean, do you 495 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 6: have uh you know it, would it be your conclusion 496 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 6: to say, well, yeah, he did say the assault, I 497 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 6: mean it was justified. I'll just kind of let that go, 498 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 6: not say anything about it. Well, I don't think there 499 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 6: are many people that would let it go. I'm kind 500 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 6: of actually surprised that more people don't see the glorification 501 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 6: of violence as a real danger to having someone lead 502 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 6: ice who really thinks resorting to fist is the way 503 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 6: we hear this real? You know, if this is a 504 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 6: badening way to do it, we used to do it 505 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 6: the right way, with dueling and gaining. And you know, 506 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 6: when I first read the story of Charles Summer, I 507 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 6: was horrified by it. I wasn't. I never never crossed 508 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 6: my mind that these were the good old days, These 509 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 6: were the days when men were men and they you know, 510 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 6: cross each other's skull with sticks. I don't know that 511 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 6: never would cross my mind. But that apparently is his 512 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 6: point of view. And even when confronted with it, both 513 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 6: privately and in public, he refuses to apologize, doesn't back down, 514 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 6: and says basically, yeah, he's it's completely understandable that I 515 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 6: was attacked from behind. You know, six ribs, broken, lung damage, 516 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 6: multiple pneumonias, part of my lung removed. I don't know. 517 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 6: I don't get that. I guess I'm not willing just 518 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 6: to say, oh, let's let bygones be bygones. You know 519 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 6: we're all adults here. Well, if you want let bygones 520 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 6: be bygones, you might start with an apology for what 521 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 6: he said. 522 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: What happened to your attacker. 523 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: We had a couple of people asking us, and Buck 524 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: and I did a quick research. 525 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: We're live on the air. I'm sure you know. 526 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: Was he severely punished to what you thought he should 527 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: have been that level? 528 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 2: Or what was the result of that case. 529 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 6: Initially, they all the judges in Kentucky recused themselves, which 530 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 6: created a problem because then they have to look for 531 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 6: a judge. They found one in Detroit who came down 532 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 6: and prejudged the case and gave the guy thirty days. 533 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 6: The government appealed it and went to the Sixth Circuit, 534 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 6: and this doesn't happen very often appealing a criminal ruling 535 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 6: of a judge because it was outside the sentencing parameters 536 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 6: and didn't meet the minimum, and they came back and 537 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 6: gave him another ten months, so he served about a year. 538 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 6: He lost the civil suit. He's a convicted felon, hopefully 539 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,479 Speaker 6: as not voting anywhere in the country anymore, and hopefully 540 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 6: has received some punishment for this. But you know, it 541 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 6: was misreported from the very beginning, and everybody's oh, yeah, 542 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 6: just a dispute which we had never talked to the guy. 543 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 6: I mean I talked to maybe ten or fifteen years 544 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 6: before We're gone. A lot our kids used to carpool, 545 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 6: but there was no personal animus that I knew of 546 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 6: between the guy other than that I learned that he 547 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 6: was the hater of Donald Trump and a hater of 548 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 6: me politically when we looked at his online presence, but 549 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 6: wasn't like we'd ever had words. Really, I don't know. 550 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 6: Those who think it's either funny or should be justified, 551 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 6: I think are sick people. 552 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 3: Franklinton, Senator Ran Paul with us now and Senator if 553 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 3: I could. I mean, I think we've covered pretty and 554 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 3: pretty good detail. Here what happened today in your exchange 555 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: with Mark Wayne Mullen. We are in the midst of 556 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 3: what we have been telling everybody is a war and 557 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 3: thousands of people are dying, and it is a big deal. 558 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:12,959 Speaker 3: I know there's been a little back and forth on 559 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 3: what we should call this, and it's you know, there 560 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 3: seems to be a little bit of a minimization feeling 561 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: around it in some quarters my senses, and this is 562 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 3: I'm speaking for myself, and Clayton can weigh in with 563 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 3: his sense. This is just going to end sometime in 564 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 3: the next couple of weeks and we're going to say 565 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 3: mission accomplished with having destroyed the Iranian military. What do 566 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: you make of all of this? I mean, I know 567 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 3: you're not for it, but what's the goal here as 568 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 3: you see it? And what are the lessons that we're 569 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 3: learning as we go? 570 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the sooner it's over the batter war 571 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 6: really isn't good for you know, us as a people, 572 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 6: not good for those who die, and really it needs 573 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 6: to be the last resort, not the first resort. I 574 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 6: think this war was a war of choice, and I 575 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 6: didn't agree with the choice. Now, whether they call it 576 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 6: a war or not. Sounds legalistic, but it's a way 577 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 6: of getting around the Constitution. The Constitution says that Congress 578 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 6: initiates war or declares war. Now, the President's Legal COUNTIL 579 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 6: the Office of Legal Council argues that you'll will tell 580 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 6: you when it's a war, but we have to wait 581 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 6: a while and we'll add up the casualties. We have 582 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 6: to know the duration, the extent, and the scope of 583 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 6: the war to tell whether it's a war or not. 584 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 6: And I guess the problem with that kind of argument 585 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 6: is that if Congress is supposed to initiate or declare war, 586 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 6: but you can't tell whether it's really war until a 587 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 6: number of dead, you know, it would be sort of 588 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 6: Congress coming after the fact and then declaring war after 589 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 6: the war's over. You know, with the Iraq War, we 590 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 6: declared war in advance. We didn't know how many would die, 591 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 6: but we ended up I think losing about forty four 592 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 6: hundred soldiers and maybe ten or twenty thousands significantly wounded. 593 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 6: But we did actually authorize it. You know, I have 594 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 6: some complaints with George W. Bush, but he came to Congress, 595 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 6: made the case, and they authorized it. And the same 596 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 6: thing after nine to eleven, and I would have voted 597 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 6: for the nine to eleven. You know the response after 598 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 6: nine to eleven, because we were attacked. That's when we really, 599 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 6: you know, should have a war. But I don't think 600 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 6: we've done it in a constitutional way. I think in 601 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 6: the end it's really this isn't the primary reason to 602 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 6: oppose it, but I think it's also going to be very, 603 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 6: very damaging for the Republican ability to hold on to 604 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 6: either House or Senate in the fall because of the 605 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 6: economic repercussions. I think oil prices go up quickly. I 606 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 6: think they're sticky on the way down, and as more 607 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 6: infrastructures damaged over there, as the people are having more 608 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 6: trouble getting shipped through because of insurance and danger, I 609 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 6: don't think that quickly resolves itself. So even if the 610 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 6: war ended in a week or two, I think you 611 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 6: could still have pricing increases that could last well into 612 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 6: the election. 613 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 2: Last question for you. 614 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: This is a VIP email, and I'm going to read 615 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: it from one of our listeners. Matt, you probably have 616 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: heard of this quite a lot. Eighty percent of all 617 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: Americans support voter ID. I'll be extremely pissed off and deflated. 618 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: If the Save Act fails, especially if it fails due 619 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: to GOP and fighting, I think the country is doomed 620 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: if we can't get voter ID passed. That's a VIP 621 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: email from Matt, one of our listeners. What's going to 622 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: happen with the Save Act? What should happen in your mind? 623 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 6: You know, I'm for it, I'm a co sponsor of it. 624 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 6: Voted yesterday to get on it. We got on it 625 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,479 Speaker 6: with fifty one votes. I am told my leadership there 626 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,479 Speaker 6: are not fifty one votes to perpetually stay on it. 627 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 6: You know, the whole idea of the talking filibuster, But 628 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 6: there aren't fifty one votes to do that. I'm also 629 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 6: told that one of the sticking points of doing citizenship 630 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 6: park that you might get fifty three of us. You 631 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 6: might even get a Democrat or to if adjusted citizenship. 632 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 6: When it adds in the mail balloting forbidding mail or 633 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 6: discouraging mail balloting, which I am for, I think that's 634 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 6: really almost as important as the citizenship part, because I 635 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 6: can people cheat through the mail in balloting more than 636 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 6: any other form of voting. But the problem is that 637 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 6: you have these Western states. I mean, Utah has everybody 638 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 6: gets the ballot in the mail. They may get multiple ballots. 639 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 6: Arizona's the same way, and they've had Republican legislators out there, 640 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 6: but they haven't anything about it because frankly, Republicans out 641 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 6: there like mail in balloting, the same with their same 642 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 6: with Oklahoma, I mean not Oklahoma, Alaska. And so while 643 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 6: I am, you know, in my state, I helped, you know, 644 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 6: get the state legislature, encourage them to pass. And almost 645 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 6: everybody votes in person. It's like ninety eight percent. It's 646 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 6: of sellony. If you lie you're reasons for a need 647 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,479 Speaker 6: to vote by mail. It's almost everybody votes in person. 648 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 6: We have paper ballots. We keep the paper ballots, and 649 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 6: I think we have pretty secure elections. We have we 650 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 6: have IDs to be shown. So some states do it 651 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 6: in so there's about five Republican states that don't. So well, 652 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 6: I voted for the national and we'll continue to support 653 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 6: the national pollution ability we ought to have as a 654 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 6: party goal getting the five or six Republican states that 655 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 6: do mail in balloting, convincing them at the state level 656 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 6: not to do it. 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I also would like 694 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 3: to talk about Clay if we can make time for today. 695 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 3: The amount of money that's spent by New York City 696 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 3: on homeless. 697 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a crazy bualtat. 698 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 3: I I mean, we're at the point now where some 699 00:35:55,239 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 3: of these bureaucracies, these nonprofits that are funded with taxpayer 700 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 3: dollars would be so much We'd be so much better 701 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 3: off just giving eighty thousand dollars which is what the 702 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 3: number is to people who are homeless every year. Yeah, 703 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 3: so then people who are working hard for eighty thousand 704 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 3: dollars would say, wait a second, often more than less 705 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 3: than eighty thousand dollars, right, let's yeah, we're I mean, 706 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 3: people who are working hard for fifty grand are saying, 707 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 3: hold on a second, you're gonna give homeless, you know, 708 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 3: addicts eighty grand. Well, no, we're not giving homeless addicts 709 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 3: eighty grand. We're spending eighty thousand dollars per homeless addict 710 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 3: and they're not stopping the homelessness. What the heck is 711 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 3: going on? So I think that's an important story to 712 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 3: get into New York. It's elsewhere as well, And we'll 713 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 3: take your thoughts on the Rand. 714 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 6: Paul. 715 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 3: Look, it's a feud, Rand Paul, mark Waynemulan, let's call 716 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 3: it what it is. Where do you come down on 717 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 3: that one? Talk backs, emails, light us up, be right 718 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 3: back to you