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Speaker 1: My house smells too. I'm not I'm not indicting you.

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Speaker 1: I'm not making that up. This thing has absolutely changed

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Speaker 1: Why are there so many Jews everywhere? Don't don't get excited.

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Speaker 1: Not going lewis fair con on you? Why are there

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Speaker 1: to understand that that religion more than I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: It is the land of Israel. So why, oh why

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Speaker 1: You See, ancient Rome was a different beast. They did things,

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Speaker 1: Now it's impressive because I'm not the one being nailed

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Speaker 1: People ask me all the time why I have done

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Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, I've been around. But that's why

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Speaker 1: Then the accumuated Persian Empire rises. You know those Persians,

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Speaker 1: these stories and it helps me keep my life in perspective.

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Speaker 1: Every time producer Chris screw something up on the show,

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Speaker 1: which let's be frank, it's a lot, I can't get

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Speaker 1: myself that mad about it, can I? Life ain't bad.

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Speaker 1: Life ain't bad. Now back to the siege of Jerusalem.

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Speaker 1: Remember when I called the Sakari's terrorists. Granted I love them,

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Speaker 1: they were kind of cool, but they're terrorists. They sabotage

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Speaker 1: the city's food supply. When they found out some of

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Speaker 1: the Jewish leaders were negotiating a surrender with the Romans,

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Speaker 1: the Sakari's flat out sabotage the food supply, so they

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Speaker 1: wouldn't surrender. No, no, no, we're not surrendering. If any

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Speaker 1: we're breaking out, let's brawl it out, baby. And the

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Speaker 1: Sakaris never surrendered anywhere. Now, Remember, Jews do not believe

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Speaker 1: in suicide. This is not like the Japanese who we

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Speaker 1: talked about yesterday or the Romans themselves. Suicide is a major, major,

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Speaker 1: major sin in the eyes of God to the Jews.

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Speaker 1: So the Sakaris would find ways to kill each other,

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Speaker 1: but they did not surrender. They would never submit. They

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Speaker 1: never wanted to be slaves. And that's going to be

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Speaker 1: important here in just a second. So the Romans eventually

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Speaker 1: do take Jerusalem and that second Temple the Jews got

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Speaker 1: to build. The Romans burnt it to the ground, almost

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Speaker 1: completely destroyed you know why, I say almost. Do you

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Speaker 1: know the Western Wall, the Whaling Wall, the prayer Wall.

447
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Speaker 1: You see the Jews praying at that people go pray

448
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Speaker 1: at when they visit Israel every day. Do you know

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Speaker 1: why that wall is so sacred? That's the last remaining

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Speaker 1: part of that second Temple. The Romans burnt down, hang

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Speaker 1: on a set Jerusalem falls only there's a holdout. They're

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Speaker 1: not quite all gone. Do you remember that Massada place

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Speaker 1: I told you about King Herod fortified The Romans put

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Speaker 1: a garrison of seven hundred people up there. Might as well,

455
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Speaker 1: it's a sweet fortress. Let's get some dudes up here. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Sakari thought to themselves, you know that is a

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Speaker 1: nice for it you have there. It appears you have

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Speaker 1: lots of food there. It appears there's natural water there,

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Speaker 1: including cisterns for us to catch rain water. I think

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Speaker 1: we'll go have a little visit rather than surrender. Because

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Speaker 1: the Sakari don't surrender. And the Sakari made their way

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Speaker 1: on up to Masada slaughtered the Roman garrison there. The

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Speaker 1: Sakari moved in their wives and their children and basically

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Speaker 1: dared the Romans to come get them. Now you are

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Speaker 1: the Romans. You're down there putting down a rebellion for

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Speaker 1: these people who have been a thorn in your side

467
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Speaker 1: since you break it took over the place. And plus

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Speaker 1: it's just not the Roman way to walk away. So

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Speaker 1: the Romans decided, no, no, no, no, no, You're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to leave, come on down out of that castle.

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Speaker 1: And well they were dealing with the Sakari who said, nah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think we will. Actually you can come get us. Well,

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Speaker 1: remember this is a fortress unlike unlike many I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: If you want to talk about the easiest places to

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Speaker 1: defend ever again, I would encourage you to Google image

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Speaker 1: search it siege at Massada or just Massada will probably

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Speaker 1: be enough. You can see what I'm talking about. Now,

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Speaker 1: let me sidestep for a moment. We took a trip

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Speaker 1: to Europe last summer. No I'm not rich. It's the

480
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Speaker 1: only time I've ever been to Europe, but I have

481
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Speaker 1: always wanted, as you can imagine, to see the history

482
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Speaker 1: of the place, and what I really really wanted to

483
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Speaker 1: see was castles fortifications, because they still exist there. Yes,

484
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Speaker 1: I dragged my poor wife along, who wanted to go

485
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Speaker 1: shop and spend money to castles so I could see

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Speaker 1: moats and torture chambers. Yes, it is a very difficult

487
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Speaker 1: life being with me, I understand that. But when you

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Speaker 1: just hear people like me tell stories about it, and

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Speaker 1: when you read about it, or even when you look

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Speaker 1: at pictures about it, it can be difficult to put

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Speaker 1: yourself in the shoes of somebody else. But when you're there,

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00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: when you're physically standing on the same ground defenders and

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Speaker 1: offenders have stood on, it's different. It is shocking. This

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Speaker 1: one castle, I will never forget it. This one castle

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00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: we went to. It had a moat around it that

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Speaker 1: was still there. Now, contrary to popular belief, would suck.

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Speaker 1: They didn't fill the moats with crocodiles and water, which

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Speaker 1: I have always thought would be really really cool. However,

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Speaker 1: that is not historically accurate. Europe is far too cold

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Speaker 1: to have crocodiles live. I want to believe the ancient

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00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 1: Egyptians somehow used crocodiles and self defense, since the entire

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00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: empire was built along the Nile, and the Egyptians were

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Speaker 1: just wild, not just the women shaving all their body

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00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: here thing, I mean wild. I bet you they used

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Speaker 1: crocodiles and even if they didn't. In my mind, they did,

506
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: and that's really what's important. But there weren't crocodiles in

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Speaker 1: this moat. The moat was essentially this. You have sheer

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Speaker 1: walls of a castle or a fortress. Well, you know,

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00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: at some point they have to physically approach these walls.

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00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 1: This is before the era of the B fifty two bombers.

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Speaker 1: Somebody is going to have to physically approach the walls

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Speaker 1: and either smash through them or cross over the top

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Speaker 1: of them. So what's a really, really, really easy way

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00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: you can make that person's life a living hell. Dig

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Speaker 1: a massive ditch around the outside of the wall. Meaning

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Speaker 1: when they're approaching the wall with their various equipment and

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00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: armor and battering rams, they can't just walk up a

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Speaker 1: nice gradual, grassy knoll until they get to the base

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Speaker 1: of your wall. They have to go down into this

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Speaker 1: massive ditch and then up the steep side of the

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Speaker 1: other ditch. When you picture yourself and seventy eighty pounds

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Speaker 1: of armor trying to lug siege equipment up there, trying

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Speaker 1: to build ramps, dig ditches, trying to haul a battering

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Speaker 1: ram up there. Oh and did I mention they're pouring

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Speaker 1: scalding hot pitch that melts your skin off your face

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Speaker 1: when it lands you. They're pouring that on you from

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Speaker 1: the walls when they're not firing arrows into you. Very

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Speaker 1: very very very difficult. Why do you think sieges were

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Speaker 1: so popular in ancient times? Because they couldn't get through

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Speaker 1: the walls, or you couldn't get through the walls without

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Speaker 1: taking such massive losses, the whole frigging war wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: worth it. No, let's just I guess we'll wait out

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Speaker 1: here until they go hungry. I'm not going in that ditch.

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Speaker 1: Are you going in that ditch? I'm not go Screw yourself,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going in the ditch. Well, that's what the

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Speaker 1: Romans found themselves in. And see that's a that's a problem.

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Speaker 1: If you're the Romans one, you have Roman pride. You

538
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: can't just let this go too. How are we supposed

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00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 1: to starve and starve these people to death and get

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Speaker 1: them to die of thirst when they're loaded with the

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Speaker 1: food stores we put up there and they have a

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Speaker 1: never ending supply of water. You're telling me we have

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Speaker 1: to take that fortress? Hang on, protect my car can

544
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: save you an absolute fortune and I've told you this,

545
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,479
Speaker 1: that six hundred dollars truck bell I got that hurt,

546
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: and it hurt not because it was my monthly bill.

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00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: It hurt because it was a repair I didn't see coming.

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00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: And I don't know about you. I don't always have

549
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: six hundred dollars laying around. I can just toss into

550
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: my truck anytime it feels like taking a dump on me.

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00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: Protect my car. If you have a nineteen ninety nine car,

552
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: truck or suv or hire, there's somebody you need to

553
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: get a hold of right now. You need to take

554
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: that from me, because there's a chance your car repairs, engine, transmission,

555
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 1: other stuff too can be a thing of the past.

556
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: Paying for them socks. Stop doing it. Dial Star Star

557
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Speaker 1: one two four four Star Star one two four four

558
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Speaker 1: and find out if you qualify. I hope you do.

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Speaker 1: Protect my car. The Romans have got to find a

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Speaker 1: way to end this siege. Now, how are you supposed

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Speaker 1: to do that? You've seen the Google image pictures by

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Speaker 1: now or not you've heard me describe them. You are

563
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Speaker 1: staring thirteen hundred feet above you before you even get

564
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Speaker 1: to the walls of Masada itself. You have the cliff

565
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: walls and you cannot take the path. What are you

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Speaker 1: supposed to do? And remember this is not the touchy

567
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Speaker 1: feely twenty twenty era where you can just send a

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00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: message to the boss and say, hey man, this is

569
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: way too hard and they're not using my preferred pronouns.

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Speaker 1: I think I want to come home now. I'm offended

571
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Speaker 1: that this is not that era. You know, as the

572
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Speaker 1: as the Roman general, you find a way to take

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Speaker 1: down this fortress or you might as well commit suicide

574
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: right then and there. It's that important. So you have

575
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Speaker 1: to come up with a solution. What's that solution going

576
00:41:47,360 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: to be? Well, it's actually really cool. Hang on. Jesse

577
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: Kelly returns next. This is the Jesse Kelly Show. How

578
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Speaker 1: do you get to the top of a thirteen hundred

579
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: foot sheer wall? If you're a Roman? Well you do

580
00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: what Romans do? You build something? Then that's really the

581
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: lasting great thing about Rome. There were other great things,

582
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: mind you, but their lasting greatness is their feats of engineering.

583
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean, have you have you ever looked at a river?

584
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Speaker 1: And I know I'm probably weird in this, but I

585
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: bet you'll do it now now that I bring it up.

586
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: Have you ever looked at a river, a large river

587
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: and thought to yourself, I wonder what it takes to

588
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 1: build a bridge across that, Or you've seen a bridge

589
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: being built across the river and thought, gosh, that looks brutal.

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Speaker 1: I mean, not the top part necessarily, although that's a

591
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: big pain too, but the piers. In everything, it's it's

592
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: how you've got to do what divert the water? You

593
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,240
Speaker 1: have to drill down into it. With today, with modern technology,

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Speaker 1: and I was in construction. Now granted we didn't do

595
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Speaker 1: bridges and stuff like that, but I was in construction

596
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Speaker 1: and I still would look at the building of bridges

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00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: and think to myself, that looks like an ordeal. Man,

598
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: that looks like an ordeal. How long has it taken

599
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: your local construction crew in your area to build that

600
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: overpass they've been working on, right, It takes a lot.

601
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: The piers, and then they're building it out and then

602
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: they have to It looks like a Julius Caesar pre

603
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: Christ built a bridge across the Rhine River in nine days.

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Speaker 1: It's so absurd that I honestly, it's one of those

605
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: things that's so unbelievable. Part of me doesn't find it believable.

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Speaker 1: Nine days, nine days, not a single piece of construction,

607
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Speaker 1: it whipments, no modern technology at all. Nine days, built

608
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: a bridge across the Rhine. And then once he marched

609
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: his zombie across and slapped around a bunch of Germans

610
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: because they were a misbehaving he marches him back across

611
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Speaker 1: the rhine and rips up the bridge as a gigantic

612
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: fu to say, I can come back and build it again,

613
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,479
Speaker 1: and he dag one time I want, and he says

614
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 1: peace and walks away. He built an elevated bridge thirty

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Speaker 1: feet wide, seven hundred feet long, in nine days. It's

616
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Speaker 1: not it's not possible. It's not possible. I can't wrap

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Speaker 1: my mind. And that's what Romans did. The great Dan Carlin,

618
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Speaker 1: which if you geek out on history, which let's be frank,

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Speaker 1: if you're listening to my show, at some part of

620
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Speaker 1: you enjoys history. Dan Carlin does history podcasts better than

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Speaker 1: anybody else. He redefines it. And he talks a lot

622
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Speaker 1: about Romans, because you cannot talk about history without talking

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Speaker 1: about the ancient Romans. And when he talks about Roman soldiers,

624
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 1: he calls them part construction worker. And that's what they

625
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Speaker 1: were in a day, they would be on a campaign

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Speaker 1: through Gaul or Germany or somewhere. They would get to

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Speaker 1: where they're camping, and like that night they would build

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Speaker 1: a fort and one night and then they would start

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Speaker 1: adding things to it. And it used to horrify the

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Speaker 1: tribes who were fighting against them. How the Romans would

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Speaker 1: just get there and the tribes would wake up in

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Speaker 1: the morning and there's a fort. Well, how's there a fort?

633
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Speaker 1: Did this come? Are these people gods? So Roman engineering

634
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: is what it is. You're the Roman general Silva. You

635
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: got about fifteen thousand menu at your disposal. You know,

636
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: they've only got about a thousand up there in Massada,

637
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: only about one hundred of which were actually fighting men.

638
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: You've got to get up there. So you begin to

639
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: build the greatest ramp of all time. I don't know what.

640
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what else to call it, Chris. The

641
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: ramp ended up being nineteen hundred feet long and from

642
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 1: the floor to the top two hundred feet tall, getting

643
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: you to the base of the fortress walls. And when

644
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: I say ramp, I need to be clear that I'm

645
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 1: not talking about the bike ramp you built at apply

646
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: Wooden cinder blocks in your backyard which you wrecked on

647
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: and got hurt as a kid. Oh wait, that was me.

648
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm talking a ramp where it was solid because you

649
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: had to march men in equipment, an entire army up it.

650
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 1: They built it out of stone, they built it out

651
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: of timber. It wasn't a ramp, it was a road.

652
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: They built a road. There was only one path into Massada.

653
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 1: It was impassable, so they built another one getting them

654
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: up to the base of the walls. And once they

655
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: got to the base of the walls with this road,

656
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: and obviously the Sakari are firing on them the whole time,

657
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: and it's a nightmare and you're fighting them off. And

658
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: they had to have fireproof little temporary walls they would

659
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: put up to guard their construction workers as they built it.

660
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: And it's this long, arduous process. And now you're at

661
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: the base of the wall. Only now, well you're just

662
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: at the base of the wall. All that work only

663
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: got you to the base of the wall. Now what

664
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: are you supposed to do? And this part I say

665
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: this way too often. If I could go see one

666
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: thing in human history, I swear this thing would be

667
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: on the short list they build a siege tower. Now,

668
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to describe some dimensions for you, and please

669
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: don't let your eyes glaze over. I'm trying to put

670
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: it in a way everybody can picture, even though these

671
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: dimensions can be wildly off depending on the siege. I

672
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: want you to picture a twenty foot square twenty feet

673
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: in all directions, each walls twenty feet long. Okay, you

674
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: got it. A room that's twenty feet that's perfect way

675
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: to picture it. Your bedroom. Picture your bedroom now, picture

676
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: your bedroom. The walls are there, and then there are

677
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: stairs in your bedroom. They go up to a second

678
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: floor above your bedroom, where there's another bedroom of equal size,

679
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: and then more stairs in another bedroom above that, and

680
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: then more stairs in another bedroom above that. It is

681
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: that it is a vertical tower with rooms inside of it,

682
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: stairs inside of it, little windows, little portholes out your

683
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: bedroom at each floor, so you can shoot arrows in ballistas,

684
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 1: which are basically ancient big arrows and other things out

685
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: your siege tower. Oh and did I mention it has

686
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: to move because you can't build that thing at the

687
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: base of the wall or it'll never get off the ground.

688
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: You have to build this wall several several several floors

689
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 1: high on wheels, and then once you get it on wheels,

690
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 1: you then have to find a way to actually move

691
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: it up your nineteen hundred foot long ramp and even

692
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: get it to the base of the mountain. And you

693
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: have to do this while under fire. And they did it.

694
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: And this is maybe the coolest part. This is this

695
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: is my second favorite part of the story. It's the

696
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 1: least creepy part. It's my second favorite part. They get

697
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 1: the siege tower they built to the base of the wall.

698
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: They then swing open a door that's on the bottom

699
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: floor of this siege tower, and inside the door is

700
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: a massive battering ram suspended by cables and ropes. So

701
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: now you have the siege towers all they can see,

702
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: but you are able to pull this battering ram back

703
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: and let it go to start slamming into the walls

704
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: while your siege tower sits there. Is that not the

705
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: coolest freaking thing you've ever heard in your entire life.

706
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Let us let is amazing. It is a

707
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: flat out amazing. Only the Sakari. No, the game is

708
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: up now right, They're at the walls. Hey guys, we

709
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: better give it up. Nah, that's not what they said.

710
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: They said something else. Hang on the Jesse Kelly Show.

711
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: Eventually the Romans knocked down that wall and they stormed Massada.

712
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: And the Romans, remember we're talking fifteen thousand of them,

713
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: they said it was about five thousand regulars, about ten

714
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: thousand auxiliary. And they've been here at the base of

715
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 1: this crappy fortress, in this crappy area. Because it is

716
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: a crappy area. It's dry, it's arid. I mean, the

717
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: Romans they could do it because they were Romans. It's

718
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: part of what made their armies so great. But supplying

719
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: their own people was not easy. There fifteen thousand men's

720
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: a lot of mouths to feed, three squares a day,

721
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: clean water, preventing disease. It's tough, but at least at

722
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: least if you're the Romans. You have a light at

723
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: the end of the tunnel. And what is that light. Well,

724
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: you get to rape and pillage and slaves. You get

725
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 1: to sack a city. And I don't pretend to know

726
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: what horrible things that does inside of a man, to

727
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: sack a city. I'm grateful I'll never know that. But

728
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: there are multiple endless accounts throughout history that when men

729
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: are getting ready to sack a city, when an army

730
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: is getting ready to saca city, even their own commanders

731
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 1: in many cases cannot hold them back, cannot stop them.

732
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,919
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's some kind of blood lust thing there,

733
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: whatever it is, whatever floats your boat ruddy in the

734
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 1: same way I get excited for red lobster cheddar Bay biscuits.

735
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: That's how excited most people got in history when they

736
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: were getting the chance to rape and plunder a city.

737
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: And do not forget those slaves. Slavery is a lovely

738
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: buzzword these days people use for a bunch of different things.

739
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: But on top of the horror the slave goes through

740
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: being a slave in these times, slaves are money, and

741
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 1: a lot of it. Why do you think so many

742
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: of these Roman generals and politicians marched off to war

743
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: any chance they got because they got mega, mega rich

744
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 1: off of it because of slaves. Slaves were big boy money.

745
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: And if you didn't value the individual is a quick

746
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 1: side note here, which I hope you do. You should,

747
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 1: but most of history didn't. If you didn't vowe an individual,

748
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: If I didn't vowe Chris as a human being, and

749
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: he was my slave. That's not a bad life, is it.

750
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: Go wax my car, bring me food, repay my driveway.

751
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll feed you, maybe I won't. Maybe I'll sell

752
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: you if you can own somebody to do whatever you

753
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: want done. Why do you think it was so popular

754
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: because it sucked. It was popular because people enjoyed it.

755
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: And that's a horrible thing. It's true. And so you

756
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: knew at least once you take this fortress, you're going

757
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: to get rich because there are slaves in there, men,

758
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 1: women and kids. And even though yeah, we're probably gonna

759
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: massacre all the men, but we're gonna have our way

760
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: with the women and then sell them off and their

761
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 1: kids as slaves. Except you forgot one thing. There are

762
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: not normal people inside of this fortress. There are Sakari

763
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: inside of this fortress. In the Sakari. Once that battering

764
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: rams started pounding on the walls, they made a decision,

765
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: and that decision was simply this, they're not getting any

766
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: of us. They're not taking a single one of us

767
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: as slaves, which presents a little bit of a problem,

768
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: doesn't it. If you're a Sakari and you're a committed Jew,

769
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: and you know you can't commit suicide, can you. So

770
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: they found a little a little loophole, a bit of

771
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: a work around, and they drew lots, essentially drew straws. Okay, well, look,

772
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: we got about a thousand of us. Can't commit suicide.

773
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: What we need is ten people to do all the killing.

774
00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: And they drew lots. Pick ten dudes, and they went

775
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: around and slaughtered each in, every one of their fellow man.

776
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: And once you're down to ten dudes, well, I mean,

777
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: there's no reason for ten of us to burn in

778
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: hell and commit suicide. So let's draw lots again and

779
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: pick one dude who goes and kills those ten well nine,

780
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: Now picture that moment when they're all dead. But you,

781
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: because this person existed in human history, this was a

782
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: real experience somebody went through. Picture that moment when they're

783
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: all dead. And now you, having witnessed the death of

784
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: everything and everyone you've ever cared about, have to commit

785
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: the ultimate sin. Ouch he did it. The Romans walked

786
00:57:54,600 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: into that fort and saw that. Now that was the

787
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: first of the Jewish Roman Wars. There were two more

788
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: after that. So fast forward a little under a hundred years,

789
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: the Romans have had about enough of these freaking Jews.

790
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: Remember I asked at the beginning, why are there Jews everywhere?

791
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: The Romans finally decided, if I see another Jew in Jerusalem,

792
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: they will die. And the Jews scattered to the winds.

793
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: And that's why there are Jewish people all over the world.

794
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: That's why Israel itself is so sacred to so many

795
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: of them, because it's a return home. But the point

796
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: of our story today, there are several points you can

797
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: probably take from that, but it's the end. The Romans

798
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: were so good at so many things, But man, were

799
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: they outstanding, even if it took them time at understanding

800
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: how to deal with a problem. We can try this way,

801
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: it doesn't work. We can try that way, it doesn't work.

802
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: And finally the Romans figured out, buddy, we are never

803
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,919
Speaker 1: going to have peace with these people unless we get

804
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: each and every Jew out of Jerusalem. And they scattered

805
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: them to the winds. The Romans understood how to deal

806
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: with problems and would do the hard things in order

807
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: to deal with said problems. You remember how Rome dealt

808
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: with Carthage after the third freaking war with them. They

809
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: burnt it to the ground, killed everybody, and salted the

810
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: earth behind them, and Carthage never rose again. Three wars. Okay,

811
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: I've had enough. We're gonna wrap this up for good here.

812
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: It can take time to figure out how to deal

813
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: with problems, big societal problems. It can take times to

814
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: work it out. The Romans didn't figure it out in

815
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: thirty seconds. This is about one hundred years of wars

816
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: and rebellions. But eventually, at some point in time, you

817
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: and I in America and any other nation on Earth,

818
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: if it's facing a real threat to its existence, once

819
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: you've exhausted all the other nice options, it is time

820
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: to acknowledge you have got to take care of the

821
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: roots cause of the problem. For the Romans with the

822
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: Jews that were causing them headaches, it was the fact

823
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: we let them around Jerusalem. Let's get these freaking people

824
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: out of here. For us right now in America, the

825
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: root cause of our problem you could probably find several

826
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: of them right now. But the root cause of our

827
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: problem is we have people who think government can help.

828
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: We have people who genuinely think government can help, people

829
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: who show way way way too much trust in a governor,

830
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: a senator, a president, an expert, And why do you

831
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: trust experts? Do you know why you trust them. Do

832
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: you know why a doctor in a lab coat stands

833
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: up there and says something and you think, oh, man,

834
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: that's he must be right. It's not because you're stupid.

835
01:01:45,600 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. And just to say, you don't

836
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: have to dip forever. You know that, Ryan, you don't

837
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: have to smoke forever. And the reason I say it

838
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: like that is I have been that guy. I've been

839
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: that guy. I dipped for so long. And what would

840
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: happen is I would decide I'm gonna quit. It's bad

841
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: for me. I'm gonna quit. I'm a man, I don't

842
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: need any help. I'm just gonna quit cold turkey. And

843
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: I would fail time and time and time again. I

844
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: tried things like the patch I didn't work, gum of

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