1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: Welcome back in our number three edition of the program. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: I appreciate all of you hanging out with us as 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: we are rolling through a lot of reactions. 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Will play some of the best talkbacks. 7 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: Producer Greg says, we have been deluged by responses from 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: you guys about whether or not to boo the Canadian 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: national anthem tonight during the big hockey game. Caroline Levitt 10 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: just addressed it from the White House Press briefing room 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: about what Trump thought, and we read you Trump's comments 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: earlier today. Fun responses rolling in, as you might well 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: imagine on the VIP emails as well. John, this is 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: very funny, John says, don't boo Canada's national anthem? Instead 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: chant fifty one fifty one fifty one. I think that's 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: a very funny idea, John. 17 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: Not exactly a call for sportsmanship, a call for more 18 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: funny trolling. Does this meet your school marmish expectations? Buck, 19 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: as in terms of behavior, would that be okay to 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: chant fifty one fifty I think John would get detention. 21 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: I think John would have to fee in detention for this. 22 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna bring in our friend Ryan Gurdusky 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: and the Clay and Buck podcast network in a moment, 24 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: but I did want to play. This is Caroline Levitt, 25 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 2: just moments ago cut thirty one from the White House. 26 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: He looks forward to watching the game tonight and we 27 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: look forward to the United States feeding our soon to 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: be fifty first state Canada. 29 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: Very funny trolling from Caroline Levitt, who has a great 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: sense of humor from New Hampshire, by the way, and 31 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: the Granite Staters are very proud of her. We bring 32 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: in now our good friend Ryan Gurdusky, affectionately the Data Nerd, 33 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: a part of the Clay and Buck podcast network, and 34 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: we wanted to get you on to talk about one 35 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: month into the Trump term what the data is looking like. 36 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: So let's start here. 37 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 1: Ryan. 38 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: Are you surprised, pure from a you know, just kind 39 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: of analytics perspective, by how much ground Democrats have given 40 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: Trump to go after, whether it's men and women sports, 41 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: whether it's going after waste and fraud in the government, 42 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: how much ground they've given him that is actually very 43 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 2: very popular with large swaths of the American voting public. Democrat, 44 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: Republican and independent does it seem like a calculated error 45 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: by you on the side of the Democrats. 46 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 47 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 4: I talked to actually Marjorie Taylor Green on my podcast 48 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 4: on your network, Numbers Game on the iHeart Network, and 49 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 4: we talked a bit about how the conversation around DOGE 50 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 4: especially is two separate conversations people are having, and the 51 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 4: concern over spending over deficit, spending over the debt kind 52 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 4: of supersedes that over data and protection and Elon Musk. Now, 53 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 4: Elon Musk is not a popular figure in almost every 54 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 4: single poll. Most Americans do not like Elon and they 55 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 4: feel very uncomfortable with how much influenced Elon has as 56 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 4: but that has not affected Trump himself. Trump is at 57 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 4: his most popular he's ever been. In the new C 58 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 4: and M pull that came out today, he is at 59 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 4: forty seven percent favorability fifty one percent unfavorable, which is 60 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: not bad. It's it's five points better than it was 61 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 4: in twenty seventeen at the same exact time, and that's 62 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 4: primarily because younger people have a nine point bounce in 63 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 4: favorability towards Trump, Minorities have a significant bounce towards Trump, 64 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 4: and men have a significant increase support for Trump. So 65 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 4: all three of those things, He's just really changed the 66 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 4: path for which they have And I think that I 67 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 4: think that where Democrats are is that they don't have it. One, 68 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 4: they don't have a central messenger, and too they don't 69 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 4: have a central message. And having Chuck Schumer and Maxine Waters, 70 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 4: you know, grabbing their canes screaming out in the public, 71 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 4: and you know for USA idea program no one knew 72 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 4: about a year and a half ago or even a 73 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 4: month and a half ago. They it's not really that 74 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: appealing to them, and the conversation over a bad spy, 75 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 4: treadmills for shrimp or whatever they're spending money on really 76 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: supersedes a lot of their concerns. Is they don't have 77 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 4: a central concern. 78 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: Hey, Ryan, good to have you with us. As always 79 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: in congrats on the success of the podcast. The thank 80 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: you who listened, love it. It's been great. The numbers game, 81 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: so it seems like everything Trump is doing so far, 82 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: border does stuff, the cutting falls pretty close into a 83 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: sixty forty or something along those lines. A polling breakdown, 84 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: what is the what is the you think the next 85 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: important move for the administration? What are some of the 86 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: things that have been discussed that are on the near 87 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: horizon that could continue to just rack up the wins, 88 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: because it is in fact the case that we are 89 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: not tired of winning. Well. 90 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 4: The most popular thing, believe or not in polling for 91 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 4: that Trump has done is the girls and Men and 92 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 4: Girls sports. I mean, it is wildly popular, even among 93 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 4: polls that have over sampled. I think Democrats and the 94 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 4: independent category or liberals in the independent category, wildly popular. 95 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 4: On immigration, it's pretty good on even on tariffs, which 96 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 4: have overwhelming negative news coverage, it's not that bad. The 97 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 4: only negative thing that they have really have that Democrats 98 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 4: have that is actually getting some traction is elon Musk 99 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 4: News and that's why I think you're going to hear 100 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 4: a lot more of it, and he will be the 101 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 4: central character more so than even Donald Trump himself as 102 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: far as attack goes. When it comes to Trump, the 103 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 4: economy has to be the next thing, because that's actually 104 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 4: where a lot of people are waiting for this magical 105 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 4: recovery to start, and inflation numbers are still modelly high. Obviously, 106 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 4: it's only been a month, so I'm not blaming Donald 107 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 4: Trump for that. But this major tax budget that's coming out, 108 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 4: that's supposed to sit there and reduce and tax on 109 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 4: tips and tax and overtime and tax on social security. 110 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 4: That may be a big boost the middle class and 111 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 4: the working class. And if that happens, and that's I think, 112 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 4: I think the central thing that Trump's is there and 113 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 4: rallies are, but that is really where he's got to 114 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 4: get more of a more of control over his death 115 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 4: economy because it was his strongest issue going into this election, 116 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 4: and or second strongest immigration, but one of his strongest 117 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 4: issues going to this election, and he's really got to 118 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 4: make good on it. And a lot of is out 119 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 4: of his hands, like the egg the price of eggs 120 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 4: because of you know, the even flu, but he's got 121 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 4: to sit there and start really leaning heavily into it. 122 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 4: The economy should be stronger on his list according to 123 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 4: most of these polls, and it's not, and part of 124 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 4: it's out of his hands, but he's got to really 125 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 4: really increase the effort, just real quick. 126 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: Ryan, I think in the team fact check me on 127 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: this if I'm incorrect. With the cash Betel voting has 128 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: been happening, and I think Mitch McConnell just voted yes 129 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: on Cash. We had been told that it was going 130 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: to be a no or that was the reporting. How 131 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: do you see the positioning of some of these senators 132 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: who have been racal citrant about some of Trump's nominees 133 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: up to this point. You know they've some of them 134 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: have gone with it, some of them haven't. I guess 135 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: you know, for Maine, it's the best we can do 136 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: to have Susan conn Collins the way she is. But 137 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: how do you see the way the Senate has responded 138 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: to these these nominations so far? And what do you 139 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: think about if Cash gets Mitch voting for him, is 140 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: that a surprise to you? 141 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was actually surprised by that information. I mean, 142 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 4: Susan Collins, I think is the only Republican voted to 143 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 4: know the first time around. And Collins did vote for Toulci, 144 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 4: she did vote for RFK. She has a really good 145 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 4: relationship with Senate Vice President jd Vance when they were 146 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 4: senators together. So Van's really trying to meet with her 147 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 4: and help with getting Tolsi over the finish line. I 148 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 4: think made a big impact. McConnell also has to say 149 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 4: this is his last term. No one is surprised by that. 150 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 4: He's had a lot of health issues. And I'm not, 151 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 4: you know, ah any ill for that, but he has 152 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 4: had a lot of health issues. I think that I 153 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 4: think that McConnell's making his legacy right now, and he's 154 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 4: hoping that his legacy is that he will be the 155 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 4: voice of reason in an era of MAGA when the 156 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: history books are written. I think that is what he's 157 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,679 Speaker 4: hoping his legacy will be. And you know, he doesn't 158 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 4: like Donald Trump. He's never liked Donald Trump. And he's 159 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 4: come up on the losing side of the Republican political revolution. 160 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 4: So he's doing what he thinks is his last Dan 161 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 4: Curtis is a very moderate Republican. He'll probably be the 162 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 4: leader of that. But this is Curtis. Senator Curtis is 163 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 4: from Utah. He took over from Mitt Romney. Lisa Murkowski 164 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 4: is Lisa Murkowski. No one particularly cares for her. But 165 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 4: even Senator Cassidy, who voted to impeach Donald Trump, has 166 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 4: voted for all of his people. Now that he's going 167 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: into a very tough reelection fight that he's not doing 168 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 4: very well in the early polling for so, I think 169 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 4: a lot of it is sitting there and saying we 170 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 4: have to capitulate, we have to work. I mean, it's 171 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 4: it would not be shocking. Actually if we if we 172 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 4: turn back time and Matt Gates sat instead in the position, 173 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 4: if he would have actually gone through, by how much 174 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 4: people have sat there and changed their minds and capitulated 175 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 4: towards getting Trump's the administration that he wants cash Battell 176 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 4: you know he did a lot. He said, he was 177 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 4: on a lot of cookie podcasts in twenty twenty one, 178 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 4: twenty one on but he has a very very astounding 179 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 4: career and the FBI so maybe him and McConnell had 180 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 4: a meeting and he told him his his credentials and 181 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 4: that was enough to win McConnell over. 182 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: We're talking to Ryan Gardeski. 183 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 2: Ryan, big discussion of late about the Democrats hemorrhaging support 184 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 2: with men. You mentioned the transsports issue, that is men 185 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: identifying as women. Men are like ninety ten on that 186 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: ninety five to five. But CBS even had it, and 187 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 2: I had not seen this in a long time. They 188 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: had Trump plus twenty in male approval rating sixty forty. 189 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 2: How much of it And you may have seen me 190 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 2: talking about this last week at the University of Chicago. 191 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: How concerned do you think Democrats should be about their 192 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: loss of support among male voters. 193 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 4: I mean, they have a Democrats have a fundamental branding problem, 194 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 4: and it's a branding problem where they. 195 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: Are the HR party. 196 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 4: They're the ones who are going to turn you in 197 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 4: for you know, anything you possibly do wrong. Is it 198 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 4: is a it is a cultural loss, the likes we 199 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 4: haven't seen in decades. I mean it's probably since I 200 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 4: was a child, where a lot of the cultural influence 201 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 4: is coming from Conservatives and from Republicans, and there is 202 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 4: a general sense of defeat and a general sense of 203 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 4: eye rolling when they talk about things like DEI or 204 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 4: the future's female, or just constant nagging, like they are 205 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 4: the Party of nagging. There's been so many clips of 206 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 4: side by sides of like female journalists or female Democratic 207 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 4: senators yelling at Republican senators or Jdvans when he's on 208 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 4: with on CBS and you just sit there and every 209 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 4: man can sit there and say, yeah, I've had that 210 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 4: kind of moment. God, is it annoying. I think that 211 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 4: that is. I think that that is part of their 212 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 4: problems as a brand, as a party brand, And I 213 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 4: don't think that AOC is the salvation for it, and 214 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 4: David Hogg is not the answer for it. Maybe John 215 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 4: Fetterman is. I'm not even making a joke, but it's 216 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 4: who has come up and asked to lead the party 217 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 4: is not that. And the central problem that Democrats have 218 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 4: had for a long time, in the last like ten 219 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 4: to fifteen years, is the people that they've had to replace, 220 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 4: the Nancy Pelosis and the Stenny Hoyters and the Jim Clyburns. 221 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 4: Therefore the most part insane, like they went to the 222 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: Men's Institution as their reinforcements, and that's who they have 223 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 4: to lead the party. The leaders don't the next generation leaders. 224 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 4: It's not Josh Gottheimer, you know, the head of the 225 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 4: mainstream Democrats in New Jersey. It is the aocs and 226 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 4: the ilan Omars and the people who really are You know, 227 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 4: if you think the Democratic Party was radical under Nancy Pelosi, 228 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 4: you haven't seen anything yet. So until you get a 229 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 4: hold of that, and until central Central's Democrats are voting 230 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 4: in primaries and huge numbers to really upset that and 231 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 4: kick out the loudest voice in the room, I don't know. 232 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 4: You know, a BuzzFeed culture is not the one that's 233 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 4: going to sit there and lead the Democratic Party to salvation. 234 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 4: And that's who they have is their next lead. 235 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: Ryan's podcast is It's a numbers game. It's up in 236 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: the Clay and Buck podcast network. Gosh it all. Check 237 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: it out. He does a great data break down, a 238 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: lot of political analysis. Ryan knows the ins and outs 239 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: of that backwards and forwards Ron before we let you go. 240 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: Clay loves to make far out predictions and we have 241 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: to always flag it and see he has predicted that 242 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: right now based on what we're seeing. 243 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 4: Michelle. 244 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: No, no, no, don't worry. He was wrong on that one. 245 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: I have a let him forget. I said, no more, 246 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: Michelle Obama talk. No one's allowed to say. Oprah is 247 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: gonna run like these are. We've heard this before. It's 248 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: not gonna happen, he says. Cuomo right now, Andrew Cuomo 249 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty eight after he becomes mayor in New York, 250 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: do you agree with that? Is that insane? And who 251 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: do you think is going to emerge? And I know 252 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: we're going way out in the future here, but just 253 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: kind of curious. We'll make a note of this. 254 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 4: I don't I don't think so. I mean, I like, listen, 255 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 4: I don't. I have a tougher time thinking Democratic Party 256 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 4: is going to become the party of white men. Then 257 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 4: they are going to stop nominating women. It's just the 258 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 4: functionality of the party. Maybe Andrewomo could do it, but 259 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I don't. I have a hard, 260 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 4: hard sense of that. He is a disgrace from our governor. 261 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 4: He's running for mayor. He may be mayor, but a 262 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 4: New York City mayor. Of the last four have either 263 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 4: talked about running for president or have ran for president, 264 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 4: all remarkably unsuccessfully. 265 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: If if you, if you Ryan, if you had to 266 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,599 Speaker 1: abandon all of your principles and run a campaign for 267 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: a Democrat in twenty twenty eight, based on the field 268 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: right now, who would it be? 269 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 4: Wes Moore? From the governor and Wes Moore. 270 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: That's what we've talked. 271 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 4: We have discussed, Yeah, Wes more government, very very very 272 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 4: very like good candidate, strong candidate, you know, not some 273 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 4: on the issues, but good candidate. Actually, next Monday, when 274 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 4: my podcast drops, I have a whole episode on the 275 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 4: business of campaigns and the business of politics. What it 276 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 4: actually very run for office? You really really enjoy it. 277 00:13:58,360 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, well check it out. I mean that's stuff that 278 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: people really need to know. I'm going to listen to it, 279 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: qu no doubt. 280 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: One last question here for you, Ryan, I encourage everybody 281 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,599 Speaker 2: to go subscribe to the podcast. You can find it 282 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Do you think 283 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: Kamala has a viable political future going forward? We were 284 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: talking about this, debating this earlier in the show. What 285 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: happens with Kamala next? I know she signed with CIA, 286 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: She's gonna make a lot of money giving speeches, but 287 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: does she run for governor? Does she think that she 288 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: has a chance in twenty eight? Do you think where 289 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: do we go from here with Kamala? 290 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 4: I mean the joke in me since here and says 291 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 4: her futures at AA, But I mean the real the 292 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 4: thing is I think that she has no, she doesn't 293 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 4: have a future. She lost She is like, did John 294 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 4: Kerry have a future in two thousand and four? I 295 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 4: mean that's literally saying, hey, you know, should run in 296 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 4: two thousand and eight John Kerry, Like no, it's over, 297 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 4: Like put a pin. I would have a hard time 298 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 4: seeing Democrats run a woman for president for the next decade. 299 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 4: The last two did not go well for them and 300 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 4: it led to Trump. Who is their most hated person 301 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 4: is Richard Nixon. I don't see how they're going to 302 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 4: nominate another woman. So Gretchen Whitmer, with all the plastic 303 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 4: surgery she's done, I think it was old waste. I 304 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 4: don't see how they're gonna nominate it. I think it's 305 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 4: going to be a man. I would put my money 306 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 4: either on Josh Shapiro, Wes Moore, and Wes More and 307 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 4: more likely because he's black. Joshapiro is Jewish, which creates 308 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 4: a ton of problems. Also, if anyone has a tape 309 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 4: of Joshapiro pre two thousand and eight and when he 310 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 4: started speaking like Obama, I would love to know what 311 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 4: he actually sounds like, because I've never met a Jew 312 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 4: from the suburbs who talks like a black pastor before. 313 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 4: But that's Josh Shapiro the But that's who I would 314 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 4: put my money on. They're gonna sit there and pick 315 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 4: a centrist Democrat man. They're not going to pick a woman, 316 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 4: and they're not. I don't have a hard time just 317 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 4: gonna pick a white guy. It's a party that has 318 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 4: told white men forever. You are the problem behind every 319 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 4: civilizational you know, issue and problematic. You're problematic. You're problematic. 320 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 4: You're problematic. I don't see how they're going to. 321 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: To get the rest of it. We got to go 322 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: to Ryan's podcast. Everybody. It's a numbers game in the 323 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: Clan Black Network. Ryan Gerdusky. Great to have you. 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I'll 380 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: just say this as we bring in our friend Carol Markowitz. 381 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: I understand Susan Collins, she's in Maine. It is a 382 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: state that Trump has never won. It is a state 383 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: that would be hard for a Republican to win. She 384 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 2: has to balance all of that, and she's up for 385 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: reelection in twenty twenty six. Lisa Markowski, what are you 386 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 2: doing Alaska? Why do you have a state that Trump 387 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 2: won overwhelmingly, a senator that is refusing to support many 388 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: of the nominees that Trump has put forward. I think 389 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 2: Alaska could do better, let me just say it, than 390 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 2: Lisa Murkowski. We bring in now well, Carol Markowitz. Carol, 391 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: we got a lot to talk about with you, but 392 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: I want to start with sadly, the awful, the awful 393 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 2: video we saw of true babies that have been killed, 394 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: kidnapped by Hamas and the reaction as those caskets were 395 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 2: turned over to the people of Israel. You've talked a 396 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: lot about your reaction to October seventh, and you're a 397 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 2: mom of three. I imagine that that was devastating to 398 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: watch and see what is actually still the consequences are 399 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 2: October seventh, to kill true babies and hold them hostage 400 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: is beyond the pale. 401 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 5: It really is. And thank you so much for having 402 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 5: me on. I have two little redheaded boys. Myself, I 403 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 5: have felt the pain of the Babist family the whole time, 404 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 5: just horrific to know what they went through and what 405 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 5: their last moments were. Probably, Like I think anybody, whether 406 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 5: or not you have children, anybody human should understand that 407 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 5: this was not something that happens in war. You know, 408 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 5: my nine year old last year said to me something like, 409 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 5: why doesn't Israel just kidnap the Palestinian children and then 410 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 5: you know they can salt to them? Because Israel would 411 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 5: never do that. That's why it's something that would only 412 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 5: monsters would do that. And an important part to understand 413 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 5: is that it wasn't Hamas who kidnapped that family. It 414 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 5: was normal Gosins who had broken through the fence and 415 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 5: stole these children, you know, in their pajamas from their 416 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 5: home with their mom. And it was you know, what 417 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 5: people call normal Palestinians who are not in Kamas. And 418 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 5: still this is what happened, so very tragic day. I 419 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 5: think a lot of us knew that it was heading 420 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 5: in this direction, but still just the sadness and the 421 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 5: anger today is palpable. 422 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: So Carol, I guess now we should just expect that 423 00:21:54,560 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: the very zealous pro Hamas pro Palestinian wing of the 424 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: Democrat Party in this country is just going to be 425 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: quiet about this for the next few days because it 426 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: seems to me that in any circumstance, when you have 427 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: an entity, whether it's a government, a terrorist group, anything, 428 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: that kidnaps literal babies and then kills them, I mean, 429 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: refrains from or refuses to keep them alive while in 430 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: their custody as hostages, you couldn't have a more clear 431 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: depiction of the active decision to conduct evil And I 432 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: just feel like this should be something that every person 433 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: who's been out there crying about the devastation of buildings 434 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: in Gaza should have to answer for. Why shouldn't Gaza 435 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: be raised to the ground if Hamas is going to 436 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: conduct terrorist attacks that include the kidnapping and decision to 437 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: murder babies in their custody. 438 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's again, that's the whole thing with noting 439 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 5: that it's every day Palestinians who did this, because the 440 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 5: argument usually goes, look, the Palestinians don't want Hamas in charge, 441 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 5: they have no choice. This is not them, This is 442 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 5: only a terrorist group. You can't blame all Palestinians for this. 443 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 5: But it actually was all Palestinians. And you know, people 444 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 5: have noted that there were Nazis who helped, you know, 445 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 5: high Jews, for example, during World War Two, there were 446 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 5: no Palestinians who helped a single hostage here. There was 447 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 5: not one Palestinian who said, I'm going to take the 448 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 5: reward that Israel is offering that will change my family's 449 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 5: life forever and help return these hostages to their homes. 450 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 5: None of them did that. So yeah, I think what 451 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 5: the squad and people like that count on is a 452 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 5: short memory. Americans are very pro Israel, and it makes 453 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 5: sense where both you know, both countries are a civilization. 454 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 5: They're not backward, murderous countries that think it's okay to 455 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 5: kidnap children. So you know, what they have to do. 456 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 5: Who is to kind of keep this quiet from Americans 457 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 5: so that Americans aren't enraged by the murder of two 458 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 5: children and their mother. And also today another the fourth 459 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 5: body coming home today is an eighty four year old 460 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 5: man who was a peace activist who brought Palestinians to 461 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 5: Israel to the hospitals for treatment because he wanted so 462 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 5: badly to have this peace with the Palestinians. And then 463 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 5: they used his peacefulness against him and murdered him. So 464 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 5: I think what the squad is trying to do is 465 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 5: trying to minimize the attentions of this gift and hope 466 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 5: that Americans don't notice. But I believe in Americans, and 467 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 5: I know that Americans care a lot about justice and fairness, 468 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 5: and I know that they stand with Israel because Israel 469 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 5: represents our values over. 470 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: There, Carol, shifting gears here a bit. One month in 471 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 2: the Trump administration? What grade would you give them? Have 472 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: you been surprised by how quickly they've moved? How do 473 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 2: you think they're doing? 474 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 5: I am so pleasant surprised. 475 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 6: I was. 476 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 5: Look, I was very excited for this administration. I early 477 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 5: voted for Donald Trump on day one of early voting 478 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 5: in Florida. I could not wait to vote for Trump fans. 479 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 5: I was excited about it. But they have exceeded all 480 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 5: of my expectations. And you know, I wrote about this 481 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 5: today for Fox News. But the one month anniversary, what 482 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 5: I really have noticed in the last month is that 483 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 5: we have a president again, and that is such a 484 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 5: comforting feeling. Even though I didn't like Joe Biden, I 485 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 5: didn't want the Joe Biden administration. The fact that he 486 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 5: was absent for such long periods of time and we 487 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 5: didn't know who was making policies or what to expect 488 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 5: from that administration. It's scary. And I think that what 489 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 5: Americans have felt in the last year and the last month, sorry, 490 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 5: is a sense of comfort where we know who's making policies, 491 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 5: we know who's in charge, we know what to expect, 492 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 5: and that is a really important feeling. So I've been thrilled, 493 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 5: I mean a plus plus. I, you know, have minor 494 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 5: quibbles with the Trump administration right now that I can't 495 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 5: even know verbalize that I is mostly I'm very, very 496 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 5: happy with how things are going. 497 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: Speaking to Carol Marko, which she's got a podcast with 498 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: us on the Clay and Buck network, and what is 499 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: the Normy Mom's podcast called You Give Two Podcast, I. 500 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 5: Have two podcasts on the Clay and Buck Network. I 501 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 5: have the Carol markt which show, which I say is 502 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 5: my sort of non political podcast where I ask political 503 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 5: people non political questions. And then I have Normally that 504 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 5: I co hosted Mary Catherine Ham where we talk news 505 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 5: of the day and break it down in a humorous fashion. 506 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for doing great work on that audience, 507 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: really enjoying both of those shows. As the numbers attest 508 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: to Carol, I want to switch gears for a second 509 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: to New York. Actually, we're doing around the world that 510 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: everyone want to configue New York City. So it comes 511 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: out that a couple of things have happened the last 512 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: twenty four hours. Trump has squashed congestion pricing, which was 513 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: pushed by Governor Kathy Hoak over the strenuous objections of 514 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: many many New Yorkers, not just Republicans or people on 515 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: the right, a lot of New Yorkers like this is nuts. 516 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: And now Kathy Hochel has also made it clear she 517 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: will not just unilaterally fire the Mayor of New York City, 518 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: Eric Adams. What the heck is going on here? It 519 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: just feels like the Democrats can't get out of their 520 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: own way in the Empire State. 521 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 5: It's amazing. So what's really interesting to me is why 522 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 5: would Trump care about this congestion pricing? And I think 523 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 5: that one of the criticisms I had of the Trump 524 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 5: administration last time around was that they weren't looking towards 525 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 5: the future, that they weren't thinking about Republican wins in 526 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 5: the future. And to me, this congestion pricing thing is 527 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 5: very much a future looking thing. This wasn't about New York. 528 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 5: This was about New Jersey. New Jersey drivers were having 529 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 5: to pay this congestion pricing in New York City if 530 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 5: they drove into the city, and they were really suffering 531 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 5: with it. It was nine dollars is going to go 532 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 5: up even higher. And it's the New Jersey voter that 533 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 5: I think the Trump administration is courting here. New Jersey 534 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 5: has been kind of close in the last few elections, 535 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 5: and there's a real chance that it can go right 536 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 5: in the future. So to me, this was a future 537 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 5: election vision where New Jersey can possibly be moved, and 538 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 5: I love it. I love everything about that. Then the 539 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 5: Kathy Hokal not getting rid of Mayor Eric Adams, I 540 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 5: think it would have been really difficult for her to 541 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 5: do that. He's an elected mayor, whatever you think of him, 542 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 5: and I happen to think he's the best of a 543 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 5: really terrible bunch in New York City. So I think 544 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 5: if she had gotten rid of him, I don't know 545 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 5: how her own political career would have survived it. And 546 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 5: I think that's really where she came down on this. 547 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 5: It's not that she cared about New York. It's not 548 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 5: that she cared about Mayor Adam. She was looking at 549 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 5: her own career and saying, where will this leave me? 550 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 5: And I think a lot of people would have been really, 551 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 5: really mad had she gotten rid of him, and then 552 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 5: Jamaine Williams, the public defender on sorry the public advocate, 553 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 5: would have become the mayor. And he's super far left, 554 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 5: you know, big on defunding the police while himself living 555 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 5: on a military base with full security, of course, and 556 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 5: I think people would have been really pissed off. So 557 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 5: that's why she backed off and win win for Donald Trump. 558 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: We're talking to Carol Marco. It's okay, really important question 559 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 2: here to close out. Carol, your husband is a big 560 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 2: football fan. I know that you have sons who are 561 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: big fans too of sports. Will you be watching US 562 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: Canada tonight in your home, this big hockey game, and 563 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: do you have a strong take on whether I'm sure 564 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: you saw that Canada booed the United States national anthem 565 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 2: on Saturday? Should we boo mean Boston sports fans the 566 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: Canadian national anthem tonight? 567 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: Well? 568 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 5: So, I would say, no, we shouldn't boo because look, 569 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 5: it's more like we don't even think about them. Who 570 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 5: are they? They're not relevant to us. You know, they 571 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 5: think about us quite a bit, and so that's why 572 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 5: they boot our anthem. They're real mad at us whatever. 573 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 5: Mary Catherine Ham and I talked about this on normally, 574 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 5: but there's nothing that Americans like more than succeeding in 575 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 5: a sport that we largely don't care about. So I'm 576 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 5: going to be watching this game for sure. I'm going 577 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 5: to be rooting for America. And you know, living in Florida, 578 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 5: it's extra fun because Florida has had a really good 579 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 5: run in hockey in the last few years. Florida Pantas 580 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 5: has been doing great, and it's it's great because you 581 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 5: live in this warm climate and hockey is what we're 582 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 5: winning down here. So it's terrific, It's and I can't 583 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 5: wait to watch the game. No, don't believe the anthem. 584 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 5: Let them have this. You know, again, we don't even 585 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 5: think of them. 586 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: What does Canada have if we beat them in hockey? Carol, Like, 587 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 2: what does the whole country have to go. 588 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: All day to day? I'm just saying this is their thing. 589 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: You mentioned it. 590 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 2: This is not even that high of a priority for 591 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: American sports fans. If we take hockey from them, what 592 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: do they have left? 593 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly it. I don't know they have their 594 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 5: maple syrup, even though you know, Vermont. 595 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: Is kind of your preacher the choir. I think Vermont 596 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: better maple syrup. 597 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 5: Than Canada, right, So that's it. They're really they're out 598 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 5: of the game altogether. 599 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 6: You know. 600 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 5: They always it always just to bother me when I 601 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 5: would travel and Canadians would wear the Canadian flag on 602 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 5: their backpack so nobody would mistake them for American, and 603 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 5: I'd be like, nobody cares about you, and nobody cares 604 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 5: if you're an American or not, like, get over yourselves. They 605 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 5: have this odd you know, nationalism that they pretend is positive, 606 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 5: but it's really not. So I don't know, let's, you 607 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,479 Speaker 5: know again, let's just beat them and go home and 608 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 5: forget about it completely for another year, because that's how 609 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 5: we do it. 610 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: I'm just agast at how many shots Canada's taken to 611 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: the face on the ice on this show today. It's 612 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: just they're missing the front tooth. They got the whole 613 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: hockey thing going. They got califlower ear. It's a rough 614 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: day for Canada. But Carol markle w it's go check 615 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: out the Karen Marco would show on the Clan book 616 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: networking also normally with her and Mary Catherine Ham. Great 617 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: for everybody, especially the moms and our audience. You will 618 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: love it, Carol. Give a big hug to Shy from 619 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: both of us and we'll talk to you soon. 620 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 5: Thanks so much. 621 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: That is Carol Markowitch. She is fabulous and I think 622 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 2: buck she might have been more crushing of Canada than me, 623 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: because I was just kind of taking shots in a 624 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: fun way. 625 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: Like Mama Grizzly. 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Poutine eating monkeys. 676 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 6: Oh my god, nice my crack coffee right quest, thanks 677 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 6: for that. 678 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to have a good game, all right, that 679 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: guy's can I just say clay producer Greg is generally 680 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: a very just like polite and and you know, spitting 681 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 1: polished guy, you know, but when the hockey comes out, 682 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's like the brawl. He's like 683 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: the enforcer on the ice. I was not expecting it, 684 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: no doubt. Let's see, uh DeWeese. 685 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 2: By the way, you can talk back on the iHeartRadio app. 686 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 2: Producer Greg sees all these DeWeese. Uh listener on KFBK 687 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 2: in Sacramento, California. 688 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: What you got for us? 689 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 6: All right? To drinking at sporting events, I'm sorry. The 690 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 6: Philadelphia Eagles football team out, I mean, anybody, anybody. They 691 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 6: have their own jail in the stadium. So no, the Eagles, 692 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 6: those are some fish. 693 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: Trust me. 694 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 6: They consume more alcohol than any sports. I mean you 695 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 6: can find excuse me, hockey and baseball the Eagles, Eagles 696 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 6: stadium period. 697 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: Oh these are great South Florida listener, Oswaldo listening to 698 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 2: us down here on WIOD where we both are in 699 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: Miami at double FF here, let's play this. 700 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: I had a change of heart about this. 701 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 3: Initially, I thought we should boo the Canadian national anthem 702 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 3: if they bow ours. But the better thing is to 703 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 3: if they decide to boo our national anthem, we should 704 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 3: just cheer very very loud, or actually sing our national 705 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 3: anthem and drown them out. 706 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: We're in last world. We don't have time play. We're 707 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: at time. But that was a great one from Asvaldo. 708 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 1: We'll hold something's over to tomorrow for Friday Day Friday Sleeve. 709 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.