1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: Third hour Clay and Bucks starts right now, and we're 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: just circling back to the big newswom of the weekend, 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis suspense's presidential campaign. 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 3: So it is now Trump v. Haley in New Hampshire tomorrow. 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 3: New Hampshire primary is happening tomorrow, and the expectation is 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: based on the polling, not just based on guest work, 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 3: that Donald Trump is heading for a major win in 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 3: New Hampshire. And then there'll be this open question as 11 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: to how long Nicky Haley plans on staying in the race, 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 3: assuming that the polls are correct and that she is 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: going to lose considerably. Does she want to risk the 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: possibility of losing a primary in her home state where 15 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: she was the governor of South Carol line on. You know, Clay, 16 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: one thing that stuck out to me here with all 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: this was that this is, for example, cut twelve, where 18 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:14,919 Speaker 3: Nikki Haley is taking some real taking some real shots 19 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: at Trump. You know, there was all the speculation about 20 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 3: being a VP candidate. I don't think anyone thinks she's 21 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: a shoe in or even the most likely, but she 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 3: was in the conversation. Perhaps she's saying here that she 23 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 3: thinks that Trump's mental stability is declining recently. 24 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 4: There have been multiple things. I mean, he claimed that 25 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 4: Joe Biden was going to get us into World War two. 26 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 4: I'm assuming he met World War three. He said that 27 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 4: he ran against President Obama. He never ran against President Obama. 28 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 4: He says that I'm the one that kept security from 29 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 4: the Capitol on January sixth. I was nowhere near the 30 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 4: Capitol on January sixth. But Margaret, you don't be surprised 31 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: if you have someone that's eighty in office, their mental 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 4: stability is going to continue to decline. That's just human nature. 33 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 5: We know that at Clay. 34 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: You and I have had a lot of contact with 35 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: Trump over the years, including recently we're at mar A Lago. 36 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 5: Uh, it is. It is true. 37 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 3: They say that Biden sharp is attack and it's a 38 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 3: talking point. Anyone who's around Trump knows the guy is 39 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: still very sharp. I've never seen him be foggy or 40 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: anything like that, and all the interactions I've had with 41 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 3: him in person. Same thing with you. What's Nicky Haley's 42 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: game here? It feels like maybe just last minute desperation. 43 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: But she's getting She's getting nastier with Trump at the 44 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: very end, and I expected her to. 45 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 46 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 6: And I think there's a difference between slipping up on names. 47 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 6: I'll give you an example, Buck, I screw up names 48 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 6: all the time. 49 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 5: I'm not great at names. 50 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 6: When I did my sports talk radio show, for some reason, 51 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 6: I often said Brett Farv when I met Aaron Rodgers. 52 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 6: Anybody out there, I don't think you could say, oh, 53 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 6: I maye my mistake all the time. By the way, yeah, yeah, 54 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 6: you as a big sports fan, but you know you're 55 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 6: you talked or sorry for San Diego Chargers fans. It 56 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 6: took me a long time to change from San Diego 57 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 6: Chargers to LA Chargers. And I still screw up Oakland Raiders. 58 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 6: Still sometimes say that when I mean Vegas Raiders. Right 59 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 6: teams move around. Trump is talking about these people in 60 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 6: his speeches, and sometimes he says the wrong person's name 61 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 6: while he's talking about it. 62 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 5: The point of the name is not the story, right. 63 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 5: Does that make sense? 64 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 6: And so I think there's a big difference between that 65 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 6: and Biden's deer in a headlights stare where he gets lost, 66 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 6: and I do think Nikki Hayley is going to have 67 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 6: to make a rational decision at some point because she 68 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 6: avoided going after Trump by and large and spent most 69 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 6: of the tens of millions of dollars that she got 70 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 6: attacking Ron DeSantis so she could get in a one 71 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 6: on one battle with Donald Trump. Okay, now she's there, 72 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 6: there is nobody else in the race. You have to 73 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 6: make the case that you are the choice and that 74 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 6: Donald Trump is the wrong choice. How hard does she 75 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 6: go at that argument? Because if she goes hard at 76 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 6: that argument and still loses, which I think is likely, 77 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 6: then she also in the back of her mind has 78 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 6: to be thinking how am I going to impact myself 79 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 6: for twenty twenty eight And so I think when the 80 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 6: results come in New Hampshire on Tuesday, again, everybody go vote. 81 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 6: If you're listening to us right now, granted staters, you 82 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 6: have the same opportunity that Iowa's had to really send 83 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 6: a substantial message about what this race is going to 84 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 6: be and effectively ended. Because if Donald Trump comes out 85 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 6: and wins by double digits, I think there is no 86 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 6: compelling argument Nicky Haley has to remain in the race whatsoever. 87 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 6: Then I think she will drop out. We had to 88 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 6: call her at the end of the last hour say, oh, 89 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 6: she'll pull up Chris Christy and not endorse. I don't 90 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 6: think so. I think she would endorse. I do think 91 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 6: Bucket's not crazy to think that Chris Christy may run 92 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 6: as a third party. I believe he's basically the only 93 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 6: person who's dropped out that had any sort of staying 94 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 6: power that hasn't endorsed, and so I would not shock 95 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 6: me if he's on, then no labels can tell if 96 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 6: someone like Chris Christy, in my mind, if he runs 97 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 6: third party, it is out of spite and it is 98 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 6: a decision that is intended to give Joe Biden four 99 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 6: more years and not have the guts to just say 100 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 6: that that's what you want. 101 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? 102 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm running, Sure you are. 103 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. 104 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 3: If you're running a third party and you're Chris Chris Christy, 105 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: you're in this no labels, you're Joe Manchin. What you're 106 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: doing is pretending that you want to be president, which 107 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 3: no one thinks is going to happen, so that you 108 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: can prevent Donald Trump from being president and hand four 109 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: years to the Democrat Joe Biden without having the guts 110 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: to say that's what you want to do. And that's 111 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: the part of it that really bothers me, Like, just 112 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 3: just come out and say it. Like all these people 113 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 3: that go on c in an MSNBC who used to 114 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 3: be Republicans, you know now they're saying, oh, I'm an independent. 115 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: No you're not, You're a Democrat hatchet man. Just be 116 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 3: honest about it. Just tell us the truth. 117 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 5: That's a good point. 118 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 6: And I would also say that's why I still somewhat 119 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 6: respect RFK Junior's presidential run because we talked about earlier 120 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 6: there is going to be no COVID reckoning and a 121 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 6: lot of times if you decide to run as a 122 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 6: third party, it's because, I would say, as an honest way, 123 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 6: if you really feel like the things that you want 124 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 6: to talk about are not going to be discussed, then 125 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 6: running as a third party candidate is not an awful choice. 126 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 6: And if it's Trump v. Biden, basically COVID is going 127 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 6: to be shunted off to the side. And what they 128 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 6: tried to do with us with the COVID shots that 129 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 6: RFK Junior was one hundred percent right about. I think 130 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 6: there might well be ten or fifteen percent of you, 131 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 6: and I understand it, who are still so angry over 132 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 6: COVID that you would go vote for RFKJ because I 133 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 6: think that's his constituency if we get Trump be Biden. 134 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 6: I don't believe then Chris Christie right like he's actually 135 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 6: trying to talk about a particular issue that otherwise people 136 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 6: just want to paper over. 137 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: And I think it's very obvious that if Chris Christy 138 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: were to run as a candidate and be on the 139 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: ballot because of this no labels thing, that it would 140 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: hurt Trump. It's much less obvious to me what would 141 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: happen with RFK Junior running, especially if you broke it 142 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: down by swing states. And I do think that RFK Junior, 143 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: it would be the no labels candidate is going to 144 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: pretend like the side effect is Donald Trump losing to 145 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 3: Joe Biden by very narrow margin, when that's actually the intent. 146 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 3: I think that if RFK Junior continues on his third 147 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 3: party run, he may be response if maybe he can 148 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: do something politically miraculous. I know that might sound delusional, 149 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: but I think I think his motivation is entirely different. 150 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: I think Christy run if he runs, or someone like him, 151 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: Joe Manchin, it's just to spite Trump and to hand 152 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: it to Biden, full stop. No other point. 153 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 6: Now, I do think who No Labels picks has as 154 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 6: the as the lead. In the same way that we've 155 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 6: talked about how vice presidents don't typically matter. I think 156 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 6: Joe Manchin would hurt Joe Biden. I do think there 157 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 6: are some moderate Democrats that might be inclined to vote 158 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 6: for Joe Manchin. And I think Chris Christy would hurt 159 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 6: Donald Trump. I don't see away, and I'm curious if 160 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 6: you can come up with one. I don't see away 161 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 6: with whatever the ostensible former party that president of the 162 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 6: No Labels ticket represents is going to hurt the party 163 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 6: that that is formerly represented by that individual. In other words, 164 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 6: Chris Christy would hurt Trump. I don't think there's any doubt. 165 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 6: I think Joe Manchin would hurt Joe Biden. I don't 166 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 6: see any. 167 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 5: Way trying to do unpack that from me a little 168 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 5: bit like who who is the I was going to 169 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 5: vote for? 170 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: You know, West Virginia, as we know, it's like the 171 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 3: red estate in the country after Wyoming. I think I 172 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: mean it's very It's it's Trump country, so I mean, 173 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: it's not going to make any difference there. Who is 174 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 3: the voter who sees a Joe Mansion third party run, 175 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 3: who was going to vote for Biden, who goes, now, 176 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: I'm going to vote for Mansion. I mean, just what's 177 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 3: that profile like? 178 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 6: I don't I mean, I think it would be I 179 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 6: think it would be similar to the people that Joe 180 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 6: Manson got to vote for him in West Virginia. I 181 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 6: think it would be people who are not particularly politically 182 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 6: plugged in that are unhappy with some elements of Joe Biden. 183 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 6: I mean, it's probably the whatever what is Dean Phillips 184 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 6: or whatever the guy's name is going to get thirty 185 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 6: percent of the vote in New Hampshire. It looks like 186 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 6: there's thirty percent of Democrats that are going to show 187 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 6: up there. I think Biden is weak, and in general, 188 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 6: I think third party candidates strip away the die hards 189 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 6: that would otherwise the non die hards, right, because to me. 190 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 3: The note kind of just the reason my thinking and 191 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 3: don't I don't disagree with that assessment or at least 192 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: think that that's possible. To me, the no labels thing 193 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: is a stop Trump thing. Do you can you agree? 194 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 3: Do you think so? 195 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: Or no? 196 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 6: To me, they put it I think if only if 197 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 6: they put a Republican formerly at the top of their ticket. 198 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: To me, it's like the Lincoln Project is running a 199 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: candidate again. Maybe I'm not seeing it, but that that 200 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 3: to me is because the Lincoln Project was just let's 201 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 3: get a Democrat elected by pretending to be Republicans. That 202 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 3: was the whole one. 203 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 5: What they are trying to do. 204 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 6: They say they want a Democrat and a Republican unity 205 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 6: ticket that they're going to try to appeal to the 206 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 6: moderate part of the country. 207 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 3: Do you think Do you think that's really what they're 208 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 3: trying to do? 209 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 6: Though, well, I think if they put a Democrat at 210 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 6: the top of the ticket, I would somewhat think the 211 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 6: answer is yes. But my thought process is whichever they 212 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 6: pick as the president, right, the Republican or the Democrat, 213 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 6: that then is going to pull it away, which is 214 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 6: why I think Chris Christie is going to be their 215 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 6: their guy, like I think Chris Christy is going to 216 00:10:59,280 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 6: be no labels. 217 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 3: Then that also goes towards which is that this is 218 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 3: really just a stell stop Trump operation, which is what 219 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 3: you know. Evan McMullen ran in the last cycle, right, 220 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 3: that was just to try to siphon votes away from Trump. 221 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 3: It was a stop Trump operation. So I think it's 222 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 3: important that people see these things, you know, for what 223 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: they are. Although we'll see I mean, to your point, 224 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 3: it's not clear even what the third the no labels 225 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: third party ticket would would actually be. 226 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 6: You should say this too when we come back. I'll 227 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 6: give people the latest data. Buck, But the data right 228 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 6: now suggests that third party overwhelmingly helps Trump. When you 229 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 6: get the four and five third party candidates, and I'll 230 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 6: hit that Harvard Harris Pole, who was referenced by JD. 231 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 6: Vance head to head, Trump's up fifty three, forty seven, buck, 232 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 6: He's up eleven when all of the third party people 233 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 6: are put in. 234 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 3: There's a real possibility here that all of the political 235 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 3: analysis and the propaganda machinery of the Republican and Democrats 236 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 3: in this general for the presidency, that understanding that dynamic 237 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: could end up being less important to understanding the impact 238 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: that a third party candidacy's gonna have because such a small, 239 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 3: small percentage of the actual electorate is going to determine 240 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 3: this right. So yeah, you start to see the numbers. 241 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 3: This is this is slicing the onion super thin. But 242 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: what do you think about all this? Eight hundred two 243 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 3: A two two eight a two Let us know. You know, 244 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 3: Legacy Box is amazing. They help you preserve your family memories. Clay, 245 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: I am making a request right now. I want you 246 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 3: diving into the attic or you know, talking to mom 247 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: and pops here. I want this Clay not singing, but 248 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 3: allegedly singing in high school. 249 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 6: There's gotta be video of this somewhere. Gotta be video 250 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 6: of this. I was forced to not sing. 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Buck has 287 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 6: not heard this, but we played the UFC pre limbs 288 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 6: I think I said last week by the way, that 289 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 6: they were in Montreal, was actually in Toronto, was in Canada, 290 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 6: but they had the big UFC event in Toronto over 291 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 6: the weekend and one of the guys Sean Strickland I 292 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 6: think was his name, the UFC fighter, I full disclosure 293 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 6: him not a huge UFC guy. I watched some of 294 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 6: the fights, but I'm not gonna be the person who 295 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 6: explains to you why the rear naked choke was inappropriately 296 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 6: appla in random second round action of the UFC. But 297 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 6: there's a question that Dana White was asked because some 298 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 6: of the things that his fighters have been saying have 299 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 6: offended people out there, and Dana White was asked why 300 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 6: he didn't keep his fighters on more of a leash 301 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 6: and Buck, you haven't heard this, but my goodness, I think. 302 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 5: You're gonna love it. Cut twenty three. 303 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 8: You obviously give a long leash to your fighters about 304 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 8: you know, what they can say when they are up 305 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 8: there with the UFC microphone, and you are getting into 306 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 8: territory of homophobia transphobia, Like, is. 307 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 9: There I don't give anybody a leash. 308 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 5: Well, I'm saying you a leash. 309 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 8: I'm like, free speech, control. 310 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 9: What people say, going to tell people what to believe, 311 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 9: going to tell people. I don't tell any other human 312 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 9: being what to say, what to think. And there's no leashes, 313 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 9: aren't any of them? What is your question? 314 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 8: I was asking that question. I'll move on though. 315 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, probably a good idea. That's ridiculous to say I 316 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 9: give somebody a leash. Free speech. Brother, people can say 317 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 9: whatever they want and they can believe whatever they want. 318 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 5: I mean, how great is that? 319 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 6: Just I would ask all of you out there, how 320 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 6: much better position would America be in right now if 321 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 6: that was the proposition for every one of you out there, 322 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 6: no matter where you work, for certainly everyone in the 323 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 6: public eye. 324 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 5: I would submit to you, Buck. 325 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 6: One of the biggest things we've gotten wrong, particularly in 326 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 6: the social media era, is that companies and larger institutions 327 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 6: need to have opinions on issues. Just let everybody say 328 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 6: whatever they want and if that upsets you, sometimes deal 329 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 6: with it. 330 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 5: That's life. 331 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 6: But I love what Dana White said there, and I 332 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 6: wish that would be standard for all corporations across all 333 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 6: of America. 334 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: He does have a constituency or an audience that's going 335 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 3: to be more favorable to that attitude than some other 336 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 3: people would. But I mean, I agree with all of sports. 337 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 6: Buck, Like, what if you came out and you said, 338 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 6: you know, you disagree with the quarterbacks position on anything 339 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 6: under the sun, why do we care? 340 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: You know, that's the move should always be, That's what 341 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 3: he said, not my problem. Yeah, you know this notion 342 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: that you have to Well, they always want to do 343 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 3: is tie everyone together, so they create a collective responsibility 344 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 3: that is meant to stifle the mind and the free 345 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 3: speech rights of the individual. And they've done this very effectively. Yeah, 346 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 3: you know it. It reminds me a little bit. You know, 347 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 3: if you say the wrong thing in North Korea, obviously 348 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 3: you get sent I'm not saying we're in North Korea, 349 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 3: but you know, they have multi generational punishment. So it's 350 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 3: not just that you go to a concentration camp in 351 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: North Korea. Your parents, your grandparents, and if you have them, 352 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 3: your children they all go as well. So it's collective punishment. 353 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 3: We have a very different version of that, but here 354 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 3: it's if your employee says something bad, you're in trouble. Yeah, 355 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 3: and notice who is the guard post there. 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And 380 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 3: the biggest concern that we've seen in all the data 381 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 3: involving Trump v Biden in a twenty twenty four matchup 382 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 3: was a poll from a few months ago that showed 383 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 3: Trump winning in every swing state unless there is a conviction. 384 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 3: Now it's more specific than that, and I think this data, 385 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 3: this additional data, is closer to the truth than that 386 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 3: initial or closer to the reality what would happen than 387 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 3: that initial poll. Here's what I'm talking about, this new 388 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 3: poll that's out here. Like I said, Harvard Harris poll. 389 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 3: If Trump is convicted of crimes related to his handling 390 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 3: of classified documents, who would you vote for for President? 391 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 3: Trump's still up six? If Trump is convicted by a 392 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: jury for RICO charges racketeer, influence corrupt Organizations act. I 393 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 3: think I got that one right. 394 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 5: Who would you vote. 395 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: For for President? 396 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 5: Trump? 397 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 3: Still wins up to even after conviction. And I don't 398 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 3: think that trial is even going to happen anymore. The 399 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 3: whole thing's probably going to go away. It's collapsing as 400 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 3: we speak. But if Trump is convicted for inciting the 401 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 3: Capitol riots of January sixth, who would you vote for 402 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 3: for president? Suddenly there is a swing and Joe Biden 403 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 3: is up for fifty two forty eight? Does this track? 404 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 3: Do you think this is accurate? And is this basically 405 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 3: telling us that the only hope that the Biden Democrats 406 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 3: have right now for another four years of Joe Biden 407 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 3: slash Kamala Harris when she takes over, slash whoever maybe 408 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 3: steps in for him, is a conviction in the DC 409 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 3: January sixth case. 410 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 5: Is this how you see it? 411 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 6: I am inclined to think that everything is baked in 412 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 6: based on we talked to JD. Vans about this earlier, 413 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 6: that people have basically made up their mind. But this 414 00:20:54,320 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 6: is the entire race for Democrats. They have essentially gambled everything. 415 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 6: They pushed their chips into the table. They said, we 416 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 6: want Trump as the opponent, and they believe that if 417 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 6: they get a conviction, particularly in that January sixth, the 418 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 6: Jack Smith case, that it will swing the election in 419 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 6: their favor. Now, I don't think they ever thought Buck 420 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 6: that they would be sitting in a situation. I mentioned 421 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 6: the third party, and I do think it's it's the 422 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 6: wild card here exactly how this would play. In the 423 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 6: Harvard Harris poll. As you just mentioned, Trump is up six. 424 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 6: But what's really intriguing to me is if you throw 425 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 6: all of these third party candidates in, so they polled Trump, Biden, 426 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 6: RFK Junior, Carnell West, Jill Stein right, Cornell West, left 427 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 6: wing black professor from Harvard precently now is it Princeton? 428 00:21:54,800 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 6: Now was he formerly at Harvard? Lady left this person time, 429 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 6: but decently well known. Jill Stein obviously the Green Party. 430 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 6: She says she's coming back, and we know RFK Junior, 431 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 6: we talked about that earlier. Trump actually has an eleven 432 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 6: point lead there. Now this is without Chris Christy, this 433 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 6: is without the no labels, as Buck said, may be 434 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 6: designed to keep Trump from being elected. But if you 435 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 6: only had RFK Junior, Trump's up eight. If you have Trump, 436 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 6: he's up eleven. My thought is, as you analyze this, 437 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 6: and I think most of you would agree, Trump's forty 438 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 6: four or forty five is as die hard as any 439 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 6: forty four or forty five out there, that is the 440 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 6: percentage that would support him. I don't think there really 441 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 6: is a Biden base. I think there's an anti Trump base. 442 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 6: The more options there are, the more the anti Trump 443 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 6: vote gets diluted. Which is why Buck when I said, 444 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 6: like if Joe Manchin runs, I think it hurts Biden. 445 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 6: I think when you don't have a hardcore base, that 446 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 6: your support is more fungible and people are willing to 447 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 6: go elsewhere. Like I think the forty four forty five 448 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 6: percent that Trump has baked in that will show up 449 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 6: for him would walk through, you know, a fiery conflagration 450 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 6: to be able to cast a ballot for Trump. I 451 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 6: think Biden's support is not that right. There is no 452 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 6: diehard Biden base, so I think every third party by 453 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 6: and large hurts him. 454 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: I've never met a person who was deeply emotionally invested 455 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 3: in Joe Biden. Every Democrat I know is deeply emotionally 456 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 3: invested in defeating Donald Trump, so it doesn't really matter. 457 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 3: But I've never met somebody goes, you know, who really 458 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 3: gets me fired up about leadership in America. Joe Biden, Like, 459 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: no one believes that. Also in this Polvo, I thought 460 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 3: this was really interesting. Immigration is now Sam Harvard Harris 461 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 3: Poll top concern for voters, up seven points in the 462 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 3: lane last month. It is now at thirty five percent. 463 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 3: It is ahead of inflation, and seventy seven percent of 464 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 3: voters think the Biden administration should make a deal with 465 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 3: Republicans to increase security. Sixty five percent of Democrats and 466 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 3: sixty eight percent this is what's really tough for them, 467 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 3: think the Biden administration should make it tougher to get 468 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 3: into the US illegally. Okay, sixty eight percent of people 469 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 3: think Biden needs to make it harder. 470 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 5: This is what I'm saying. 471 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: This is seventy thirty issue now in America. And that's 472 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: why Clay I mean, is your favorite Democrat senator? 473 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 9: Now? 474 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 5: I mean, do we need to just suck it up 475 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 5: and speak the truth? 476 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 7: Here? 477 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 3: Is John fetterman of the Democrats, the best Democrat senator? 478 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 3: Or is this all someploy to you know, throw people 479 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 3: off and now he's going moderate and he's going to 480 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: become a comedy again. 481 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 5: I don't know. But all I can tell you is 482 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 5: listen to what he says here. This is cut twenty 483 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 5: four about a secure border. 484 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 7: I honestly don't understand why it's controversial to say we 485 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 7: I need a secure border. I've been very clear in 486 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 7: fact that was weaponized against me as Republicans in my race, 487 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 7: that I'm very much a strong supporter of immigration, and 488 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 7: you know my wife's family. That's the Oregon story about that. 489 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 7: And I think two things can be true at the 490 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 7: same time. You can be very supportive immigration, but we 491 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 7: also need to have a secure border. And really I 492 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 7: think about immigration as we want to provide the American 493 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 7: dream for any migrant, but it seems very difficult when 494 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,239 Speaker 7: you have three hundred thousand people showing up encountered at 495 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 7: at a quorder. 496 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 3: I mean, he's not like perfect on immigration, obviously, but 497 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 3: he's better than some Republicans. I mean, if we're gonna 498 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 3: speak truth on this one, I think he's better on 499 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 3: the border than some Republican senators are right now, which 500 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 3: is astonishing considering he came in as the hoodie wearing 501 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 3: communist of Pennsylvania. 502 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 6: I think I would have to say of any Democrat 503 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 6: senator that I have seen so far in the well 504 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 6: in the last six months or so, since October seventh, 505 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 6: for sure, which seems to have been October seventh, for 506 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 6: Fetterman seems to have been a clarifying moment. And I mean, heck, 507 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 6: I don't know that he would come on this show. 508 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 6: I mean I guess ali could we could invite him. 509 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 6: I mean, I imagine that he would not want to 510 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 6: come on radio because I think he still has auditory 511 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 6: processing issues and it might not go very well for him. 512 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 6: And even when you hear him talk there, I mean, 513 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 6: it's not a perfectly scripted answer. But since October seventh, 514 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 6: I think he's been rattled. I honestly think if you 515 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 6: sat down with John Fetterman, I think there are many 516 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 6: Fettermans out there. I hear from them Buck because they said, 517 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 6: you know, I thought you when you talked about identity politics, 518 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 6: culture war stuff, I thought you were exaggerating where we 519 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 6: were headed. I think a lot of if you are rational, 520 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 6: let me say this to everybody out there as we 521 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 6: get rolling in twenty twenty four, you should be willing 522 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 6: to change your opinion if the facts change on any 523 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 6: city situation that is out there that you have an 524 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 6: opinion on. You should constantly be challenging yourself. You should 525 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 6: be looking at the facts, You should be assessing, you 526 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 6: should be analyzing you should be processing and you should 527 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 6: be willing to adjust. 528 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 5: I think the people who were on the. 529 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 6: Left and are honest, October seventh shook a lot of them, 530 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 6: not only what happened with Hamas's attack upon Israel, but 531 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 6: the fact that so many people lined up and said 532 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 6: Israel is to blame. And what John Fetterman is saying 533 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 6: is one hundred percent true. There should be no one 534 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 6: in America who's opposed to a secure southern border. None 535 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 6: of us benefit none of us by restricting the flow 536 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 6: of illegal immigration. And so what happened is I think buck, 537 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 6: if you go back to twenty fifteen, the idea of 538 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 6: a wall is not crazy. What's the first thing most 539 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 6: rich people do when they buy a home, They put 540 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 6: a freaking wall around it. 541 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 3: No course, of course, walls work, and anyone who spent 542 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 3: any time with Order Patrol will say that the wall 543 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 3: is a tool. 544 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 5: Like so many things. 545 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 3: It's not a argument end or it's not oh we 546 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 3: have a wall, now everything's over because people can drill 547 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 3: holes in or they can. 548 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 5: Put you know, a ladder. I mean there are ways. 549 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 3: I've seen people arrested for going through the wall, but 550 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 3: they got arrested because it slows them down, It allows 551 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: the greater concentration of border patrol resources in high traffic areas. 552 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 3: There are sensors, there's multiple fences, there's a lot of 553 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 3: things that come into it. But I thought this really 554 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 3: really hit at home. It's just something that's not getting 555 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: very much attention. But right now, in trying to find 556 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 3: the name, oh yeah, in Denver Health, which is a 557 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 3: hospital in Denver, that's pretty obvious. 558 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 5: I guess. 559 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 3: To be an upset if it was New York City, 560 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 3: but yeah, yeah, it would really throw people off. They 561 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 3: have a budget shortfall of over one hundred and thirty 562 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 3: six million dollars and are demanding a federal bailout. And 563 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 3: they say that you know what's causing this, folks for 564 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 3: more than eight thousand illegal aliens, particularly in their emergency rooms, 565 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: destroying this that this hospital is going bankrupt, a major 566 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 3: hospital in Denver. 567 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 5: That's just in Denver. 568 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 3: There an't even that many new illegals piling in there. 569 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: Thirty percent of er visits across New York City, across 570 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 3: the five boroughs as of I think it was a 571 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:23,239 Speaker 3: couple of months ago. Migrants, illegals, illegals just because that's 572 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 3: where they go to get healthcare, and they're also getting 573 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 3: healthcare in these migrant centers, by the way, But that's 574 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 3: a whole other thing. 575 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 5: But you know, you can. 576 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 3: Imagine if you're sitting there and you know, you had 577 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 3: an accident and you got a screwdriver sticking through your 578 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 3: forearm and you really need help in the er, you know, 579 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 3: while migrants are there getting prescription glasses and stuff. 580 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 5: You gotta wait. 581 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 8: It's not good. 582 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: No. 583 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 6: And this is where Greg Abbott's decision to actually force 584 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 6: the sanctuary cities to live by the sort of left 585 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 6: wing talking points that they were endorsing on a regular basis. 586 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 6: Oh we're a sanctuary city, Oh we believe, and I 587 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 6: mean I thought it. The Sant called this out perfectly 588 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 6: when he flew people into Martha's Vineyard, and you saw 589 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 6: how quickly Martha's Vineyard, with only fifty immigrants arriving illegal immigrants, 590 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 6: totally collapsed. They couldn't handle fifty. They declared a state 591 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 6: of emergency. They forced them off the island, right. I 592 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 6: mean in Boston fell apart just fifty. And I think 593 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 6: all of these places that geographically are remote New York, Boston, Washington, 594 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 6: d C, Chicago, for examples in this country, Denver is 595 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 6: having it happen too, But they all were able to 596 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 6: basically make hay from the fact that they aren't that 597 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 6: geographically close to having to deal with the issue. And 598 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 6: what Greg Abbott forced everybody to have to reconcile with 599 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 6: is what Texas deals with on a day to day basis. 600 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 6: And by the way, Buck, that Harvard Harris Pole that 601 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 6: you mentioned, not only did that Harvard Harris Pole came 602 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 6: out today, I believe it was Suffolk came out with 603 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 6: a New York State Biden v. Trae poll and in 604 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 6: third party racing, Trump was only down nine points in 605 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 6: New York State. 606 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 5: And you say, how in the world does that happen. 607 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 6: That's again when you factor in the third party candidates, 608 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 6: I think it was like forty six thirty seven something 609 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 6: like that. He's now Trump winning a majority of Hispanic 610 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 6: voters in the state of New York. Think about how 611 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 6: crazy that is. Again, New York is not particularly a 612 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 6: battleground state, but the Hispanic vote is moving according to 613 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 6: that Suphole poll that came out today in a way, 614 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 6: now that Trump is winning the majority of Hispanic vote 615 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 6: in New York State, and I think that's partly related 616 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 6: to illegal immigration. 617 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: You know something's not right out there, because there's a 618 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 3: whole lot more noise you'll hear advocating for abortion than 619 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 3: there is for unborn children to be given life. 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That's preborn dot com. 642 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 3: Slash Buck sponsored by Preborn. 643 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: Twenty four Clay and Bucks Weekly Campaign Cliff Notes episodes 644 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: dropped Sundays at noon Eastern on the free iHeartRadio app 645 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. 646 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 6: Welcome back in Clay, Travis, Buck, Sex and show hoof. 647 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 6: All of you are having a good time hanging out 648 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 6: with us. Tomorrow will be primary day, Granted staters going 649 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 6: to the polls to become the second state residents to 650 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 6: be able to have their voices heard. 651 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 5: We'll be breaking all of that down for you. Cannot 652 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 5: wait to be hanging out with you. 653 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 6: Let's get a couple more calls in here before we finish. 654 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 6: Donna in Inverness, Florida, Donna. 655 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 5: What's shaken? 656 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 10: Hey, we want to welcome to the great state of Florida. 657 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 10: Buck and Carrie Sexton. Thank you for coming where the 658 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 10: state is free. 659 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 3: Thank you. We love it. We love it down here. 660 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 3: Ginger's a big fan too. She loves the tax structure. 661 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 5: Oh see, he's. 662 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 10: A smart dog. I was born in Miami, so I 663 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 10: know where you live, Ish, and now I live in Inverness, 664 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 10: which is central Florida. But I wanted to comment on 665 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 10: our wonderful governor. Oh I'm pliantly sad. I can't vote 666 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 10: for him since he dropped out for president, but he'll 667 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 10: be back for us in our state. And he's supporting 668 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 10: Donald Trump, who I voted for twice and now I'm 669 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 10: going to have to vote for him again. 670 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 5: Thank you. 671 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 6: Recall Buck, A lot of people in Florida, as you 672 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 6: well know, said, hey, I'd like to have four more 673 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 6: years of Trump and eight years of DESANTUS after that. 674 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 6: That has been I bet, the number one most pot 675 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 6: popular position. Now there are some people who said I 676 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 6: want DeSantis. Now I'm not going to over I get 677 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 6: all that, but I think all this has done is 678 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 6: potentially put DeSantis on ice until twenty twenty eight, which 679 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 6: means that if you are a resident of the state 680 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 6: of Florida, the next two years as governor, Desanta is 681 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 6: going to put things in even better shape. And then 682 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 6: we'll see whether or not DeSantis has so fundamentally altered 683 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 6: the makeup of the State of Florida's electorate that there 684 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 6: may be a bunch of Republican governors in a row. 685 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 6: In fact, I would bet on that if you were 686 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 6: asking me right now, without even knowing who the nominee 687 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 6: would be and what would it be twenty twenty six, 688 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 6: where somebody is running to take over after Desantus leaves. 689 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 3: I think there are a couple of things that are 690 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 3: true at the same time. Here one is, I don't 691 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 3: think anyone was going to be Donald Trump this election cycle, 692 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 3: now that we've seen what's gone on and the mood 693 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 3: of the electorate and the indictments that came down and 694 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 3: what happened to the polls. And I also think that 695 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis has probably learned scoreboard isn't enough as a governor. 696 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 3: You gotta excite people. You gotta run a campaign that 697 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 3: feels like a movement. You've got to engage people in 698 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 3: parts of the country that don't care about Florida, so 699 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 3: I think for the next time, he'll be in an 700 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 3: even stronger position if he chooses to run. That all said, 701 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 3: the unity behind Trump is feeling good right now, and 702 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 3: I was saying this to Clay offline. I'll keep saying it. 703 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 3: It's all looking good right now for Trump, but I 704 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 3: refuse to trust that feeling. We can trust that feeling 705 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 3: when we are celebrating after election day. Clay, no early 706 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 3: celebrations in the meantime, We'll see what happens. We cannot 707 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,280 Speaker 3: wait Primary day tomorrow in New Hampshire. 708 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 5: Looking forward to hanging with all y'all.