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Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: This this morning combat. Hey there, it is just me,

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Speaker 1: mouth breathing, looking around like a jackass. Hi everyone, it

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Speaker 1: is the nineteenth of July twenty twenty three, and I'll

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Speaker 1: But for the rest of you, welcome in. My name

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Speaker 1: is Luke Thomas. I joined you from the Capitol with

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Speaker 1: staught us need right here in Washington, d C. Joined

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Speaker 1: by my friend the Big beij One himself. It's Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Brian Campbell?

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Speaker 2: Look, you are on fire already. I'm like ready for

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Speaker 2: you to solicit me sexually in a very aggressive manner.

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Speaker 2: But if we can put the debauchery beside us, we

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Speaker 2: have a fantastic hump day show in the Combat Sports

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Speaker 2: Fear for our listeners today the best damn combat sports

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Speaker 2: show in fact period in Luke ten days out from

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Speaker 2: BMF two point zero and Spence Crawford and bellatur Rising.

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Speaker 2: What a time, right, What a time to be alive?

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Speaker 1: Yes, it certainly is. BC. Let's remind everyone thumbs up

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Speaker 1: us a nice review. We appreciate that as well. On

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Speaker 1: the docket today, we'll talk about UFC the return to

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Speaker 1: the United Kingdom, which is this weekend. Tom Aspittall makes

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Speaker 1: his return, as we mentioned, after about a year off,

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Speaker 1: Angan who has spoken out, there's some news about MVP.

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Speaker 1: Regregord news. So let me just pause that for just

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Speaker 1: BC and I don't see those the producers do, so

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Speaker 1: act accordingly, BC. You want to get to this Connor

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Speaker 1: McGregor news that just broke like a minute ago or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to know what to make of it.

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Speaker 2: But according to TMZ, Connor was back in Europe at

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Speaker 2: a funeral and exited the funeral angrily after behavior from

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Speaker 2: But Luke, it's you know, I you know, I was

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Speaker 1: one UFC fight night, Aspinall versus Tybora. We are back

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Speaker 1: All of these factors are working together, to be clear.

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Speaker 2: think it's what have we not seen? I think he's

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Speaker 2: on a streak of having won seven of eight. But Luke,

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Speaker 2: for me, this is all about Tom Aspinall restoring the

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Speaker 2: all five of his UFC fights, coming in to my point,

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Speaker 1: He's improved massively since that time, which is not Tom

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Speaker 1: So he's done everything right except get injured, and that,

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Speaker 1: saying out loud when you have an injury, spetifically a

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Speaker 2: so often so early. Luke, this is a five round

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Speaker 2: seven of those victories. And you consider that that shows durability,

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Speaker 2: see from Aspinall here, Luke, not another early stoppage against Volkoff,

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Speaker 2: even though that would do exactly what I said off

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Speaker 1: about certain questions I have about Spence's career. The parts

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Speaker 2: Can we say about Tybera because winning seven of eight

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Speaker 2: can you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, listen, he beat Romanov. Although the Romanov

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Speaker 1: three one and he barely has a positive differential. And

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00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,200
Speaker 1: defense it was sixty four percent for Tom Aspenall, it's

429
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,399
Speaker 1: just fifty five percent one point three take nine takedowns.

430
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,200
Speaker 1: I could go through the takedown percentage. It's not nearly

431
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,120
Speaker 1: as good. There's just not nearly as much offense. He's

432
00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,399
Speaker 1: much more susceptible defensively. He is a good fighter, he

433
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 1: is worthy of respect, but Tom Aspinall should if he

434
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 1: is the Tom Aspinall, we understand he should blow right

435
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 1: through him.

436
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that. He's back

437
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 2: in front of the home crowd. I mentioned scene of

438
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 2: the crime. Look, the theory in general, or the working

439
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 2: narrative that we've been on is you know, separate from

440
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 2: two ninety it hasn't been the best matchmaking stretch. I

441
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 2: certainly would put this card in the category of like

442
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 2: for a London card, a little underwhelming, although it comes

443
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,679
Speaker 2: right between two pay per views, But looking up and

444
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 2: down the cart, I don't hate it. I kind of

445
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:46,880
Speaker 2: like this card on Saturday.

446
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 1: I don't hate it any I don't hate it either.

447
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,879
Speaker 1: Now to your point, is it more geared to a

448
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,880
Speaker 1: UK audience, Yes, of course it is. That's that's what

449
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 1: it should be like it's being held there. They should

450
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 1: be engaging those fighters, those community, those audiences in a

451
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,919
Speaker 1: way that doesn't necessarily appeal the same to us. But

452
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 1: let's go through here a little bit. Tom aspital Marchin

453
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 1: and Taibora by the way, Like, is this the sexiest

454
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 1: tom aspitaal fight you could have made? Of course not.

455
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: I like that they gave him what I would consider

456
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,880
Speaker 1: like if you have Here's what I would say about

457
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 1: this fight right to kind of answer your question. If

458
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 1: Aspinall has crossed his tees and dotted his eyes with

459
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 1: his rehab and his recovery from the injury and then

460
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 1: training for this fight, he should win, no problem. He

461
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 1: should win, no problem. But Ti Bora is just enough

462
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 1: of a test where if you haven't done those things

463
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: well then you could be in trouble. Perfect matchmaking in

464
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 1: that regard. Not a big name, but for what Tom

465
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: Aspinall is up against, UFC did him a bit of

466
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 1: a favor here in the right way that a promoter should.

467
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 1: Good job by them. Molly McCann is back ticking on

468
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 1: stuli Enko. She's favored to win. Obviously, she has some

469
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,880
Speaker 1: name in that community, so that matters on the card.

470
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 1: I will tell you, no matter what setbacks he's faced,

471
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,919
Speaker 1: I'm still high on Nathaniel Would. Paul Craig makes his

472
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 1: middleweight debut against Andre Moonize. Ji Herbert is a very

473
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: good striker. He was the guy who nearly had kick

474
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 1: kod Ilyatoporia when he was up aweight class. He did

475
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 1: get flat lined by Tipoia because that's who he is,

476
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: but he was this close to knocking him out. He

477
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: was very good Kaitlyn Vieira against Penny keon zad Is

478
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 1: on this card.

479
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 2: Don't go too quickly up and down because I wanted

480
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 2: to stop you. You mentioned and look, I'm saying on

481
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 2: record for a weaker card, especially compared to the recent

482
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 2: London ones, there's some charm here. I'm not hating on it.

483
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 2: But you mentioned that they are giving Aspinall a in

484
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: some way serviceable matchup, that if he's still Askedpinall, he

485
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: should win. What do you think about that same line

486
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 2: of theory and narrative coming into this Smolly McCann matchup,

487
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 2: first time we've seen her since November when she got

488
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 2: just swallowed by Aaron Blanchfield minus won seventy five favorite

489
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 2: against the plus two ten stili Erenco. But if you

490
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 2: look at my Lithuanian sister in here stoli Erenko Luke,

491
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 2: he has lost three of four, not against good level

492
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 2: of competition. Do you think this is both a showcase

493
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 2: fight for returning Molly in her home market where she

494
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 2: is a character, she is a big deal and kind

495
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 2: of a sneaky must win.

496
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, listen, I don't want to denigrate

497
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: the career of Molly McCann. But I also have to

498
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: be fair to Tom aspinall and say Tom's at the

499
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: main event for a reason he is not. I don't

500
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: know how popular he is in the UK relative to

501
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 1: Molly or certainly the Molly and Patty show. I don't know.

502
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 1: Only people there could tell me. But he's on the

503
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: main event because the promise of what he has shown

504
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: is championship level, right. I mean he hasn't reached that yet,

505
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: but you look at it and you think, shit, dude,

506
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: he might get there. Right, that's the kind of level

507
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: we're talking about. We are not necessarily talking about that

508
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: level with Molly. I don't think we've seen anything to

509
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: date that would give you a reason to believe that

510
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: in this weight class, this would be a flyway fight,

511
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,479
Speaker 1: that she can be the very best that there is.

512
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 1: And so you're asking more of the Stelia nkoside. She

513
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: has lost three or four dude. She just lost to

514
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: Chelsea Chandler, who I saw other fighters, not even media,

515
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: I saw other fighters tweeting like why is she on

516
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: the roster given like how green she was in her

517
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: abilities and Stuli Erenko lost to her. So mckenn is

518
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: rightly favored Obviously, she had that tremendous knockout the last time.

519
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: I think she was there all the time before anyway

520
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: a row.

521
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 2: She had the two in a row that really raised

522
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: her profile.

523
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, so she is a good fighter worthy

524
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 1: of respect. But to me, this is more her placement

525
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: in the co main event is not the same kind

526
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: of reason why Aspinall is in the main so to sleep, But.

527
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is they're still giving her a fight

528
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 2: she should win. So you almost have Featury Showcase hometown

529
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 2: people at the top. But as you started to mention, Luke,

530
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 2: that would fight not going to be easy against the

531
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 2: plus one seventy Andre touchy feely who's constantly sort of

532
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 2: flash of brilliance back down to earth, but a tough out.

533
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 2: But Luke, I want to focus more on that Paul

534
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 2: Craig fight, because we love Paul Craig first all. But

535
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: this is a ballsy move cutting down in wait. I

536
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: know this fight originally got delayed. We're gonna see him

537
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: as a plus one eighty underdog here at middleweight. Andre

538
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 2: Moonize at minus two twenty is no one.

539
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: To f with.

540
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: But this is a great style contrast. How do you

541
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 2: expect the one eighty five version of Paul Craig to

542
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: look and do you think there could be an improvement

543
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: from the value he brought at two o five.

544
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: I don't know he we saw him in person. Couldn't

545
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: be a nicer guy, funny as hell.

546
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 2: Is a huge, massively huge libido.

547
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 1: He is what would you say, ABC, He's a big guy,

548
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: but he's not a big light heavyweight. I didn't see

549
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: him that way at all. But at the same time,

550
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 1: he might be just big enough where it's like, if

551
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: there was like a one ninety five class, I think

552
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: he'd probably thrive. You know, it's not that I'm calling

553
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: for it. It's not the same as.

554
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 2: You want Bridge Wait to come to him and may.

555
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 1: Yes, you want Bridger weight. I know it's the saddest

556
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: shit you ever seen in your life. But in Austin,

557
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: do you remember that? Who was it? It was? I've

558
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: seen Rockbonn juniors, Like, I'm trying to get that Bridger

559
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: weaight time?

560
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that WBC, that fake bel among men.

561
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, just just call the career off. Now.

562
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: This is gonna go poorly. Okay, but neither here nor there.

563
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: I think he'll look fine early, but I really think

564
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: that weight cut is not going to do him favors.

565
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: I think it will do him favors up front, when

566
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: he's making grips on every one and he's pulling guard

567
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: and he's controlling wrists and he's got a feet on

568
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: the hips and he's trying to manipulate their weight and

569
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: he's fresh, I think it'll actually help him a little bit.

570
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: But if that doesn't work, and hello, Andre Lenese has

571
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: like very good jiu jitsu, you think like he's gonna

572
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: have like an extra level of a cardiovascular conditioning in

573
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: the third round BC. I just don't buy that, do

574
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: you know.

575
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 2: And that's so that's my fear, is that when you

576
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: cut down in weight, which you know, we don't see

577
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 2: it done that often or done successfully. Shout out Josialdo

578
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 2: for pulling that off though, but Frankie Edgar made a

579
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: career out of that. But your point is, Luke, the

580
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 2: thing that Rashad always talk about his man, your punch

581
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 2: resistance really gets challenged when you're making aggressive weight cuts.

582
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 2: The problem with Paul Craig's a light heavyweight run is

583
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: he proved that by subbing out Jamal Hill. That he

584
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 2: can beat anybody at any time. But Luke, he often

585
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: has to take a shit ton of punishment to create

586
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: those scenarios where he suddenly can become very, very dangerous.

587
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: We talked to him about that during Room service Diaries,

588
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: one of our better guests. I fear for that against Munie,

589
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 2: who can be very aggressive. You mentioned the Great Striking Game.

590
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: Has got a bunch of submissions, but he's just a

591
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: nasty tough out in general. Even though he's coming off

592
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 2: of that submission lost to Brendan Allen which stopped his

593
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 2: win streak. I want to see I'm trying to figure

594
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: out what I want to see out of Paul Craig.

595
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: Do we need to see him patient? I'm not sure,

596
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: because this is a guy who thrives in chaos. But

597
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: is that a sustainable equation, Luke, get beat up, get

598
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 2: knocked down, sub out your opponent. I don't know, dude,

599
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, not really.

600
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: Right, I don't really think that it is. As I mentioned,

601
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: by the way, I mean, we'll see, like obviously he

602
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: can win that one. The odds makers are friends at Caesar's.

603
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: Oh yes, Paul Craig plus one Ay Andremanie is about

604
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: minus two twenty. I gotta say, BC, that seems pretty fair. Actually, yeah,

605
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: so we'll see how that goes. You see the interest

606
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: of time, there are lots of good fighters up and

607
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: down this card. You have the undefeated Peruvian Daniel Marcos

608
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: taken on Davey Grant, who I think is one of

609
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: the more underrated fighters at one thirty five, which is

610
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,479
Speaker 1: a stacked division. Understandably, as mentioned Hots, I think it's

611
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 1: is a hot saucer, hot chocolate. Danny Roberts, he's on

612
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: this card.

613
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 2: Here's another that hot sauce was in and one Luke

614
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: he had a tremendous hand.

615
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: No just Scott Holtzman. Scott Holtzman. Scott Holtzman was hot sauce. Yeah,

616
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: but BC At one fifty five, Mark Gacasey, who has

617
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: not exactly turned out what folks thought he might be,

618
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: but is I would say, a much more well rounded

619
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: fighter than he once was, taking on Joel Alvarez, who

620
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: we know had an hiccup against Arminsar Yukin. But overall,

621
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: another one of these guys out of Spain. They kind

622
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: of got to keep your eye on. I love that contest.

623
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: Brian Barbarina taking on machmouon murodov dude, is a few

624
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,239
Speaker 1: really good fights and fighters on this card that are

625
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: worthy of your respect.

626
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: All right, final point here, we do have a women's

627
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: bandam white fight that's kind of buried down here, Kaitlyn

628
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: Vieira against Panny How you pronounced Panny's last name.

629
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: Here, Luke, I believe it's kean Zod kean Zod.

630
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: I mentioned Kaitlyn because you know she did take that

631
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: victory over Holly Holm not long ago. We have no

632
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: idea what the heck's going on in this division? Is

633
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: it Bueno Silva? Is it Juliana? Does this have any

634
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: pseudo title contention? We should be taking a closer look

635
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: at it, or does this division suck? And I should

636
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: just go back to, you know, not caring as much.

637
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, man, I feel like Panni keon

638
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: Zod has one of the most like underrated stories in

639
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: the women's bantam with division, which again is not the

640
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's not setting the world on fire right now,

641
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,959
Speaker 1: but like she was kind of up and down for

642
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: a while in her early stage of her UFC career,

643
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: and then I just feel like from the betch Kohea

644
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: fight on, she has looked really good. The one issue

645
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: she had was she ranted with kel Pennington, who was

646
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: better that night. Certainly okay, fair enough, but she rebounded

647
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: with a win. Since then and here she is again.

648
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: Her boxing, her striking has improved like dramatically. Her ground

649
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: game was already pretty good, but it's tightened up as well.

650
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: She's it's actually to me, you know, Kitlyn, I feel

651
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: like the big difference between them BC is going to

652
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: be physicality and probably power. I feel like Vieira is

653
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: a real powerhouse in this division, but keon Zod very skilled,

654
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: very skilled fighter. So that's an interesting one to me

655
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: where I don't have the odds in front of me.

656
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess that Vieia is favored, but I would say, uh,

657
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: keon Zod Live Dog, Live Dog.

658
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: Well to be fair on that matchup, Luke. Both as

659
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: have have recent defeats to Rocky Pennitins, so they would

660
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: be behind her in theory in the line to figure

661
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: out who's going to get that title shot next at

662
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: one thirty five. But to answer your question about that line,

663
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: minus one fifty Kaitlyn, plus one twenty five for Keon zod.

664
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: So interesting matchup in that arguably uninteresting division. Would you

665
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: say the word in the sport?

666
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: Look, it's up there, It's certainly up there. I mean

667
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: hard to say it's worse than women's one forty five,

668
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: which does He's never hearst a vision Belltor's got one

669
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: Beltor's got one.

670
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: Okay, they have the best ones. Yeah, they got the deepest,

671
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: the best one, right, I mean.

672
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: They got the best one. Virtue of having the only

673
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: one that's really quite amazing, you know. All right, let's

674
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: continue if we can here BC topic number two speaking

675
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: of bellatour perfect transition. So this is kind of interesting.

676
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: How about old MVP Michael Venom Page. Now, we just

677
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: spoke to him in February when BC and I were

678
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: in London. He has since uh said he's a free

679
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: agent unemployed. Here's what he told Eric Hajwane on the

680
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: MMA Hour quote, BC, I am currently unemployed. I think

681
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: it's time for me to just explore what else is

682
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: out there. It doesn't mean I'm not going to go

683
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: back with Bellatore. It just means I want to see

684
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: what other people think of MVP. Let me note one

685
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: thing here, if I may, he says Bellatore still holds

686
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: a matching clause for any new contract offers. However, he

687
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: thinks that they might be accommodated him and by the way,

688
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: it may not just be a UFC or Bust equation

689
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: he has talked about with us even as well going

690
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: back to boxing, potentially kickboxing. Of note, he will be

691
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: at the OSU Arena for UFC London on Saturday. This

692
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: is interest reaction.

693
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: Really interesting because you see the age thirty six, but look,

694
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: he's obviously still operating at the peak of his powers.

695
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: His knockout so quickly over Goutschi Yamauchi last time out

696
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: really shows you that. But he could be an interesting

697
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: wild card for anyone. Now. The belt Or matching part,

698
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, needs to be noted, and one other

699
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: aspect of this is interesting which I think also needs

700
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: to be noted further on. In that aerial interview, he

701
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: revealed Luke that normally belt Or would have been ahead

702
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: of the game ahead of his final final fight of

703
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: his contract, which was the Yamagucci fight not that long ago.

704
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: He said that maybe it's because of the uncertainty with

705
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: the sale and all the rumors going on surrounding beltis

706
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: or but they never reached out to him ahead of

707
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: that fighter, even after it, and he credits his own agent, Audiitar.

708
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: There of paradigm for kind of like digging in and

709
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: realizing like, oh crap, you're a free agent now again.

710
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: When you have matching rights, you're sort of a restricted

711
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: free agent in NBA turns. So it could just be

712
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: that they're sort of like, all right, you know, go

713
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: sniff it out all you want, but we know we

714
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: have matching rights. We're not gonna you know, panic and

715
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: all the uncertainty with the sale. Obviously you never know

716
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: what that means. But Luke I have to be surprised

717
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: by that at the very least that he's sort of

718
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: saying no one mentioned it in his own agent kind

719
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: of figured it out. If Look, do I expect UFC

720
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: to go crazy and throw a big number at him.

721
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, look, he is world class,

722
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: he's very exciting. You know, a couple turn of events

723
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: and he could have been a belator welter White champion.

724
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: You know, I thought he won against Story in that

725
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: interim fight. I don't know though, if UFC is aggressively

726
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: gonna go after remember when they had the same opportunity

727
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 2: with Kayla Harrison, where there was a matching situation into

728
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: KLOB they came in very low, very under sort of saying,

729
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: you know, they're not going to get into a bidding

730
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: war in this case. I don't know. Again, if this

731
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 2: means Page moves on, it would be though, certainly exciting

732
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 2: because it's something we never considered coming in to potentially

733
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: match him against a whole new group of people. But

734
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 2: it's gonna be hard for me to get over that

735
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 2: matching clause Luke to really think that this is for

736
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: real and possible, and who the hell knows who's gonna

737
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 2: buy bell it's worth.

738
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 1: At the same time, right, I mean, listen, I'm in

739
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: favor of any athlete in MMA, you know, where they

740
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: have no regulatory protection, taking whatever advantage they can of

741
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: their contractual openings to go and see what they can

742
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: get in terms of another promoter from a higher wage,

743
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: Like if you have the capacity to go do this

744
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: at any point in your career, I'm in favor of

745
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: them trying. But we have to be honest and say,

746
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: you know, like Francis made it look easy. Francis made

747
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: it look like shockingly easy, I'll say that. But he

748
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: also got a little bit lucky. He got lucky that

749
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: more than a little bit, he got very lucky that

750
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: Tyson Fury had to like majorly duck usick in order

751
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: to make this opportunity possible. And you know, he had

752
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: a lot of other things going in his direction. Even still,

753
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: you note thirty six to thirty six, if you were

754
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: a heavyweight, would not be a big deal. I think

755
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: they signed Alexi Olink when he was that age or older.

756
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: But that's heavyweight, right, That's very different. And while I

757
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: again applaud everyone trying free agency in MMA who wants it,

758
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean every time you're gonna get what you want, right.

759
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that every time it works out the

760
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: way that you hope that it could. So at thirty six,

761
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: you see what I like to see MVP in the

762
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: UFC try something interesting with whatever competitive time he has left. Yes,

763
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: of course, but I just feel like at thirty six,

764
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: what they might end up doing is signing him and

765
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: then giving him some wrestle boxer at one seventy who's unranked,

766
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: who's just gonna make the whole thing a complete fucking waste.

767
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: Of time to begin with, rather than fun fights with

768
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: guys at the top of the division, because maybe they

769
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: just don't rate him very highly. They see him as

770
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: like a bellator guy. What do they need him for?

771
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: You know, there's just I get that, Like, I mean,

772
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: here's the difference, right. Michael Chandler was thirty four when

773
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 1: he signed with the UFC, and that to me seems

774
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: like the last right moment you can have because you're

775
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: still on the other side of thirty five. He took

776
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: good care of himself, he has done I think, I mean,

777
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: the UFC thing has worked out for him so well.

778
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: And they they understand how to pull the trigger on

779
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: certain guys when it matters, like they can get it right.

780
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: They got it very right with Michael Chandler and he

781
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: them thirty six. It's like, do you feel like you're

782
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: missing out on something? I mean, you could be. I'm not.

783
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: It sounds like I'm like poo pooing it because I

784
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: don't like it. That's not what I mean. But I

785
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: can understand why matchmakers might look at that and be like, yeah, thanks,

786
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: but no thanks.

787
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they don't need you know, you can

788
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: kind of compare it to a Kung Lee situation where

789
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: he was late in his thirties by the time he

790
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: came to the UFC from Strike Force, was more of

791
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: an attraction fighter. But you know, UFC doesn't need to

792
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: bend for that, I think, Luke. Ultimately, here's the deal,

793
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: though MVP is pretty damn close to finally getting that

794
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: title shot. In fact, you could argue that went over

795
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: Yamauchi should set him up for Yarslav Amazov, which would

796
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: be such an interesting style of contrast. And I feel

797
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,479
Speaker 2: like with that matching clause, it does feel like best

798
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 2: case scenarios, he finally gets that chance against Amasov and

799
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 2: we see what happens there. Could somebody overbid? What about

800
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: PFL here, Luke, I don't know. Could somebody overbid and

801
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 2: make a run for the excitement that he brings? Possible?

802
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: But so I can I can actually give the audience

803
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: a little bit of I don't know what you want

804
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: to call it news, but I did a little talk

805
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: in yesterday to some folks. My understanding is that nothing

806
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: is done, like nothing is signed that I'm aware of,

807
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: but that my understanding is that PFL is the foregone

808
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: conclusion in terms of who is buying Bellator. My understanding

809
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 1: is that they're basically the only player left in this equation.

810
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure what is holding it up. It

811
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: could be that, Remember, at the end, I believe that

812
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: the I could wrong about this, but I believe the

813
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: PFL deal with the ESPN expires at the end of

814
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: this year. There could be an issue of like them

815
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: trying to get back with them or figure out who

816
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: their next broadcast partner might be, and like that might

817
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: be the thing that is causing a delay and us

818
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: figuring out what's happening with belt Or. But my understanding is, like,

819
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: you know, if you're asking me, I'm not telling you

820
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: this is true because nothing is signed. But if you're

821
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 1: asking me to make a prediction, gun to my head

822
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: what happens with belt Or, my official prediction is that

823
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: for sure PFL is going to buy them. So yeah,

824
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 1: we'll see.

825
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: I'd obviously we talked about it before. I'd be all

826
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: for that for the idea of creating more competition, creating

827
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: more you know, avenues of legitimate places for people to go.

828
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 2: I mean, anytime you could take two people and merge

829
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: them together like this. But I don't know, Luke I

830
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: we've come this far. You know, I wouldn't be against

831
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: theeing MVP against Amasov just the same there. So you're

832
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 2: saying this takes whoever works for UFC dot com off

833
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: the hook for creating all those fighter profiles for all

834
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 2: of those non UFC, mostly Bellator fighters that lead people

835
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: to slew thing on the internet to thinking that this

836
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: meant UFC was buying out Beltor, which by the way,

837
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: felt very Pride and Strike Force all over again.

838
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. At first, I was like, oh, this doesn't make

839
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: sense because they some of these guys have like they're

840
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: not in UFC obviously, but they have like fight pass entries,

841
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: you know. But then I saw one of them was

842
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: aj McKee, and it's not possible for him to have

843
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: a fight pass entry because literally all of his fights

844
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: have been in Bellator, right, So that wouldn't make sense.

845
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: So then I was like, well, who the hell is it? Yeah,

846
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: I guess someone just went rogue.

847
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: Someone made a Bob sap Ana Jose Canseeco one as well,

848
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: So I wonder if it's a larger sort of MMA

849
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 2: data base attack.

850
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 1: Okay, but they would have they would have a dream profile,

851
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: right because Kenseco fought Hongman CHOI, yes.

852
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: Yes, what I want to ask you to close on this, Luke,

853
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: it seemed like you teaze there that the idea of

854
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: PFL purchasing Belatour and us finding out if that's the case,

855
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 2: maybe contingent upon finding out belatur or sorry, pfl's TV

856
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 2: contract in their future. Yeah, remind you that Don Davis, PFL,

857
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: you know leader, came out and basically said straight up, yeah,

858
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: we're coming after the UFC. We're the competition, right. They

859
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: signed Jake Paul, they signed Francis and Ganhu. Do you

860
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: think there are discussions internally between Disney and Dana White

861
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: and UFC and Endeavor that say, basically, don't resign these guys.

862
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: Why why are we why would we be giving them?

863
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: There's not a doubt in my mind. In fact, I've

864
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: heard some things to that effect. You know, some of

865
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: it's probably hearsay, so I won't repeat it, but I

866
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: do have enough to say that Dana White is not

867
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: happy with the idea that they have to share space

868
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: with PFL, that that this is like like ESPN doesn't

869
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: need them and they don't want to have like you know,

870
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: because if you go on to for example, if you

871
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: go on ESPN Plus's interface and you click on m

872
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: m A, it gives you a choice to pick like

873
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: UFC content and PFL content. I'm gonna guess that that

874
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: makes UFC, in particular Dana White very upset. So yeah,

875
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: they would be all too happy to see them. And honestly,

876
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: if you're ESPN, what does having PFL do for you

877
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: other than filling time on some of your various networks?

878
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: Like that's not nothing, but like do you have to

879
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: have them for that? You can just do? How much

880
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: mountain of UFC content you can just repurpose? That will

881
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: probably do better anyway, you know. So yeah, I think.

882
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: Look, without having a dog in this fight or knowing

883
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: inside info, if you if you know Jake Paul has

884
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 2: moved his boxing business to his own, wouldn't you think

885
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: that would be a rightful landing spot if you if

886
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: you wanted to combine everything.

887
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is this BC the zone was in

888
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: the Bellatore business and then they just got out of it.

889
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: They didn't want to be in it anymore. Now. Granted,

890
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: if PFL were to sub in, like even with Francis

891
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: being there and even with Jake Paul being there, and

892
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 1: who knows what that does for you if they actually

893
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: could get innate DS fire. I don't know how that's

894
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: gonna work, but let's say you could. That's not nothing.

895
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: That's more than Bellatore could provide, at least on the

896
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: pay per view end. But it's really not a dramatic

897
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: changing of your fortunes, like, it's still most of the

898
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: same problems. Yeah, do your problems get solved if you're

899
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: Belatore plus PFL in that regard Somewhat? Yeah, somewhat. I

900
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: don't know if it's enough, but it's it's not. I mean,

901
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: you're you're not really buying Belatore for the brand, You're

902
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: buying it for the roster, right, That's what you're really

903
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: purchasing there. That roster does have some real value to it.

904
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: But there's depth, there's legitimate depth. There's legitimate opponents for

905
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: the for the names you already have in PFL. But

906
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: is that enough to draw monthly subscriptions into do pay

907
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: per views. That's the challenge that they would have to

908
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: accept going down that road. But it would be interesting

909
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 2: once it's time to see what other suitors are potentially there.

910
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 2: Luca Changing of the Skin of the current combat sports

911
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: landscape right now.

912
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, on the one hand, it really

913
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: is terrible because you know, you're having one less promoter

914
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: bidding for services in a way that they could. On

915
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: the other hand, you finally have a clear number two

916
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 1: to the UFC if IF and when these two organizations

917
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: and they're ross merge, like when you get that, you

918
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: finally have something where you can say, Okay, that's Coke,

919
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: that's Pepsi's that's good in certain ways too, right, So

920
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: it's not good or bad altogether, probably good in more

921
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: ways than it is bad.

922
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: Let's at least until Chatre's next season of One Apprentice

923
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 2: comes out, Luke, and then it will set all Asian

924
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: television records that press release thank you.

925
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to topic number three if we can here.

926
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: BC Francis and Ganu has done a little bit of media.

927
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: I know he was on MMA Hour. I know before that,

928
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: he was on I Believe with Jimmy Smith on Sirius XM.

929
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: And he's done a little bit of updating about what

930
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: he has done by virtue of this Tyson Fury process.

931
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: So let's start things on the purse because there's a

932
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: lot of speculation about this, he says, quote, what I

933
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: will tell you is that compared to what I was

934
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: making for my UFC fight, it's day and night, it's

935
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: life changing, and it would be the same thing if

936
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: I was fighting in the PFL first, what I was making,

937
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: what I did make in my last UFC fight doesn't

938
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: even count. It's not close, anywhere close. Definitely, Yes. When

939
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: he was asked if the purse was more than the

940
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: entire UFC career combined, he says one hundred percent. Yes,

941
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: I didn't make that much in my entire UFC career,

942
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: basically after turning down all of those contracts that could

943
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: have made me more money. But yes, if we count

944
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: it absolutely. When more, he continues, I've heard so many

945
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: times people say, oh, they offered him eight million to five,

946
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: they offered him this and that, which is exactly which

947
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: is not exactly what they offered He said. There was

948
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: a trick there, and it was bad. It was just

949
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: in order for me to put the pen to the paper,

950
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: there was just one big number and then behind the

951
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: paper was blank pretty much. So it's not like I'm

952
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: sure you're going to say three million times three or

953
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: four three or three fights. That's not what it was.

954
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't like that. It was the same tactic to

955
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: pull some number up and to impress you to get

956
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: you to sign the contract. BCE, you come to us

957
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: more so from the boxing side than anyone else on

958
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: this show. I'm sure you're not surprised to learn that

959
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: the Tyson Fury Saudi money is going to be much

960
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: greater than the UFC EMI.

961
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Or that this report of you know and Gano

962
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: getting only eight million is not accurate. I mean, I

963
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: thought I saw somebody was an area who tweeted it's

964
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: not eight million, it's eight figures that he's expected to

965
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: be getting. I mean, look, Francis is getting the bag.

966
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 2: Congratulations to him, I feel that. But look, a real

967
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: quick question on one part of this. If you fight

968
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: in Saudi, don't isn't that an afternoon fight in the

969
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: States typically? I mean that's unless they're going to put

970
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 2: it on it like three in the morning.

971
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: There no, no, Yeah.

972
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: Are you expecting UFC counter promoter programming to this? Are

973
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: you expecting them to quickly roll out some type of

974
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: afternoon ABC card directly against this?

975
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: If this was seven or eight years ago, it would

976
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: have been a foregone conclusion. You know, I don't know anymore.

977
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how bothered they are

978
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: by it. I don't know, like, do they want to

979
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: get in the way of it? Do they want to

980
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: go head to head and potentially look bad doing it?

981
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: I don't know.

982
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 2: I don't know they I mean, you know, Francis in

983
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 2: these interviews addressed the whole idea of UFC rushing out

984
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 2: this idea of John Jones versus Tyson Fury, which is

985
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 2: just so you know, laughable. We don't do that. I mean, look,

986
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 2: we didn't get it right, you and I we missed.

987
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: Francis's joke. He named his promo g I M I

988
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: K Gimmick as a direct sort of zo at back

989
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 2: at Dana for calling you know, we don't do gimmick

990
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: fights here at the UFC unless we do, which is

991
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: suddenly anytime we want, right as Zuck versus the other gimmick. Yeah, baby,

992
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: but yeah, Luke, I don't know. I still expect it.

993
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: They've been very petty. I still expect it. They are

994
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 2: competitors in the space, and it goes back to what

995
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying from the beginning. Francis can't win or it

996
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: continues to set a precedent, So anything they can do

997
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: to subvert that, they probably will. But Francis did go

998
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 2: further Luke on why the WBC title from Tyson Fury

999
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 2: won't be on the line. You see some of these

1000
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 2: quotes that he told there.

1001
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: One second, one second unless you finish. I just want

1002
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: to make one point about the purse if I may,

1003
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: when it is all finally said and done and we

1004
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: have a clear figure, you know, it would be a

1005
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: really helpful exercise. I would love to know how many

1006
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: times under that last deal he was offered he would

1007
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: have to fight in order to get that purse. Oh yeah,

1008
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: Like what would you have to do on the UFC

1009
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: side to make that? I'd care.

1010
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 2: What he's referencing is he got offered the John Jones

1011
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: fight by UFC for something in the eight to ten

1012
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 2: million area, but the rest of the contract was like

1013
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: two million. Yeah, payouts the rest of the way. Yeah, yeah,

1014
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: I agree with you.

1015
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: By the way, and I've spoken to some folks who

1016
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: know what his guarantee is. His guarantee is a lot

1017
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: higher than eight It's a lot.

1018
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 2: Oh of course, way it's look, it's Saudi money. It's

1019
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 2: gonna I mean, look in the end, do you think

1020
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 2: he's gonna get like thirty to forty million? I think

1021
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: you will.

1022
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he'll get you know, one hundred million.

1023
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: That seems way crazy, but yeah. My official prediction is

1024
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 1: between guarantee sponsors, cut of the pay per view, whatever

1025
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: else he gets on the B side, probably between thirty

1026
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: and forty million. Yeah.

1027
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: Well, here's a lot of boxing people, myself included, have

1028
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 2: been like great for Francis and yes, come the day

1029
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 2: of this fight will be there. We'll be watching, not

1030
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 2: there in person, but we'll be invested, will care. It's

1031
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 2: a curiosity. But for me, the lack of the title

1032
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: gives it a distinct lack of meaning, especially in light

1033
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: of Fury not fighting Usik. Here's France is talking Ariel

1034
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 2: on why he says it's a real fight. It's going

1035
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 2: on our records, but the titles are not on the line.

1036
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 2: That's another discussion, which is going to take a lot

1037
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: with the WBC and all of that. If we wanted

1038
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: to do everything, there would be a lot of parties

1039
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 2: involved and this fight wouldn't happen. We had to get

1040
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 2: this quick and done. He went on to basically say

1041
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 2: the same thing in another paragraph, But Lucas he basically

1042
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 2: saying that if the WBC got involved, it would have

1043
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 2: mucked this up. Do you think that means that that

1044
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: the WBC could only give Tyson Fury an exemption to

1045
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: take this fight, but not allow him to put the

1046
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: belt on the line, given that the USIK fight was

1047
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: so so do Is that what he's trying to say

1048
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 2: or is he trying to say that if the WBC

1049
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: got involved, they would take giant cuts of the purse,

1050
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: which they would. And also, it seems like there's other

1051
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: red tape that I that I can't put together. What

1052
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 2: do you make of those comments?

1053
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? That well, I mean, here's what I think he

1054
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: is trying to get at, which is what if he

1055
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: beats Tyson in the rematch? Again, we are getting so

1056
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: far ahead of ourselves here, But for the purposes of

1057
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: this exercise, I think what he is saying is if

1058
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: he wins, he wants the belt on the line in

1059
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: the rematch. I think that's what he's saying.

1060
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 2: Okay, but again that's a waste of our time, because

1061
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: if he did do the impossible, is.

1062
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: A rematch him fight is a waste of our time,

1063
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: right And if he.

1064
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 2: Did knock him out and did the impossible, in my opinion,

1065
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 2: he should be the heavyweight champion then you know, if not,

1066
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: then Fury should be stripped. This is all bullshit, Luke.

1067
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 2: It's just all bullshit that part.

1068
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: So what is the WBC's line. So their line, as

1069
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: I understand it as well, Tyson doesn't have any mandatories,

1070
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: so we're gonna let him take this one, make it professional,

1071
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: but just not put the belt on the line. That's

1072
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: that's the argument, right.

1073
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: WBC, the same organization of the four which created this

1074
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: idea of a super champion meant to take any fighter

1075
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 2: with a big name that they don't want to piss

1076
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 2: off and have to threaten a strip and if they

1077
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 2: make them the elevated super champion, not only can they

1078
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: make another regular champion, but that super champion doesn't need

1079
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 2: to fight any mandatories and could fight anybody they want.

1080
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: It's all boxing bullshit behind this, Luke. And it's weird,

1081
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 2: how like if this fight was for a title, you

1082
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: would still get a portion of the boxing audience going

1083
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 2: kind of bullshit? Is this? This guy doesn't even have

1084
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 2: a pro fight. I can't believe that I'm arguing against that,

1085
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: Luke to say, like, if you're gonna do this, at

1086
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 2: least put the title on the line. But it is

1087
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 2: what it is. I mean, I feel like what I

1088
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: need to just shut the hell up is a written

1089
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: statement from Tyson Fury saying, Hey, BC, don't say it

1090
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: on the show, but I have full plans to fight

1091
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 2: Ustik in December and it's gonna be for like three

1092
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 2: hundred million, and you can all shut the f up.

1093
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: Let me get this bullshit out of the way. Then

1094
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: I'd be like, Yay Francis, Yay Team Francis, go free agency,

1095
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 2: crawl through the tunnel bullshit. You made it to the

1096
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: other side. But I can't quite do that yet, Luke,

1097
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: I can't.

1098
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I feel you, bro, I feel you.

1099
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: By the way, talking about press conferences, he says they

1100
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 1: might have one in London probably somewhere, or in Africa,

1101
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia obviously, and we still don't know about the

1102
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: US yet. Yeah, I bet you don't. I bet you don't.

1103
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: There's probably some uncertain and d there the whole way through,

1104
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: so I guess we'll have to see how that goes.

1105
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: In the end. All right, let's see here a note

1106
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: here from yes okay, let's talk quickly about this topic

1107
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: number four BC. So Mma twitter was a little bit

1108
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: weird yesterday. Let's see if I can go through this.

1109
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: You had Makachev tweeting for a fight with Leon Edwards.

1110
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: Then you had Volkanovsky telling Makachev you're running. Then you

1111
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: had Teporia telling vulk wait, you're the one running. It

1112
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: was a little bit out of pocket. It's all kind

1113
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: of crazy here. You can see the tweets on the screen.

1114
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: You're running, brother, you don't want this smoke. I can't

1115
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: do an Australian accent other than the worst one you've

1116
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: ever heard, so I'll leave it at that. BC. I

1117
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, here's what makes me nervous about this

1118
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: whole thing, BC, is that October twenty fourth is not

1119
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: that far away. And you know we were only in July.

1120
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: But they are desperate for something big. And I'm looking

1121
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: around and I'm like, okay, if you can make the

1122
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: hamzat Coast to fight thumbs up, it's craziness. I'm okay

1123
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: with it, though, But if you don't have that, it

1124
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: appears they don't have anything. So what did you make

1125
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: of all of these guys tweeting in this way that they.

1126
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 2: Were well, at the very least, Luke, you know, that's

1127
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 2: going to be a big card. There's gonna be monster

1128
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: matchups on there. The UFC loves the relationship with Abu Dhabi.

1129
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 1: It's so in the Crown Jewel. I'm in the Crown Jewel.

1130
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 2: What was that?

1131
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, you're right. What I'm saying is the

1132
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: main event anchor they don't have. It looks like we

1133
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: they don't have a clear, obvious, well main event.

1134
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: I guess what I'm getting to is because there's so

1135
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: much talk about all these big names that leads me

1136
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 2: to believe that, like, this is going to be a major,

1137
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: this is going to be a badass card. They always

1138
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,959
Speaker 2: go all out in this most recent run with Abu

1139
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 2: Dhabi and the and all that. But the only way

1140
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: I would be down look Mahachev versus Leon Edwards for

1141
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: the welterweight title. I mean, good lord, it's you know,

1142
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: two of the four or five best pounds for pound

1143
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 2: in the world. The only way I'd really down for

1144
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: that though, under the current proceedings, is because that means

1145
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 2: Colby wouldn't get one, and it's just like, you know, again,

1146
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: Kolby is coming off a win on a pay per view.

1147
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 2: I know. I argued for that that it's not ridiculous

1148
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 2: that he's getting this fight or appears to be, but

1149
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: he still hasn't happened yet or been announced. And when

1150
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 2: you delay a fight that no one really wants to

1151
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 2: begin with, it just continues that bad taste in your mouth.

1152
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 2: The reality is, though, Luke, this is probably just some

1153
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 2: more public jostling and leverage and negotiation. The fight to make,

1154
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 2: in my opinion once again, is Volkanovsky Mahachev two. It's

1155
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: the two best fighters in the sport. The first fight

1156
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 2: was that perfect where you get the two best fighting

1157
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: at such an insanely high level, and it was super

1158
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: exciting on top of that, and at a fast paced

1159
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 2: and a fury make it now. Vulcan is at the

1160
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 2: very peak of his game. He wouldn't necessarily get hurt

1161
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 2: with another clean loss here. If it was clean this

1162
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 2: time against Mahachev, he could go back down and have

1163
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: Tapuria and anybody else coming through the line. But if

1164
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 2: Vulcan is going to go in the direction of greatness

1165
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: of all time, greatness. The time is now, the opponent

1166
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 2: is Mahachev Abu Dabi's not a bad sight for it

1167
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: because you know they're going to go all out. Make

1168
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 2: that fight. Let's do it, Luke, I don't you know

1169
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: to pour you can wait. Seriously, he is a he

1170
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: is a Johnny come Lately in some degree.

1171
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: Right.

1172
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: He just got me. He's rising right now. And and

1173
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 2: and look, Vulk did the face off with him. He's

1174
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: not afraid of It's that does not a question of fear.

1175
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 2: This is a question of business and greatness. You've got

1176
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: a chance to do that to be great right now,

1177
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: do it because that stat that Luke likes to talk

1178
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: about it's coming. It's it's down the road right, it's

1179
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: it's screaming itself.

1180
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: We can break the trend, you know, Volkanovsky room.

1181
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 2: But do it right now, at the peak of your

1182
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 2: powers in business. Rise, dude. Mahav is a star out there.

1183
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 2: I mean he's a star globally. You know the Bibra

1184
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,919
Speaker 2: mixed with he's just great. This is the fight, dude,

1185
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 2: that's a monster fight. The Leon thing would be weird,

1186
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 2: it'd be fun, but it doesn't make a ton of sense.

1187
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 2: This actually makes sense.

1188
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: I don't think anything you're saying is crazy. I really don't.

1189
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: It's kind of funny. Though I was thinking about I

1190
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: hadn't really given it any consideration. What would I rather

1191
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: see Leon Edwards versus Colby or Leon Edwards versus Makachev?

1192
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: And I have to tell you, like, I don't really

1193
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: love either of them. And it's weird, right because in

1194
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: either case you have a champion versus somebody who you know.

1195
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: Does he deserve to be number one contender? Obviously not,

1196
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: but we at least consider a formidable threat. And in

1197
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,439
Speaker 1: the other case, to your point, you have two pounds

1198
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: found guys. By the way, folks, forget this, Edwards and

1199
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,479
Speaker 1: Makachev used to train together at AKA back in the day,

1200
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: and this was before Edwards got really good. I'm sure Makachev,

1201
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: you know, probably gave him the business one time or two.

1202
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: But the reality is like neither of those fights make

1203
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: the sense that we want them to make, Especially to

1204
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: your point, BC, given that the real use of Volkanovsky's

1205
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: time that he has left as the best in the

1206
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,720
Speaker 1: sport should be better applied that I not that to Poria.

1207
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: It would be a disaster. It's defending against the top contender.

1208
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: But to your point, one versus two pounds per pound

1209
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 1: in the sport in a contested fight going to the rematch,

1210
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: That's that's where the sport should be. That's where Makachev's

1211
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: time should be spent. I echo your sentiment.

1212
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 2: Basically, what would be the opening line? I know it's

1213
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 2: probably already out there, but in your eyes, what's the

1214
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: proper opening line for Islam alex two.

1215
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say minus one Islam plus one twenty five

1216
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 1: or something bulk, something like that.

1217
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 2: Love it, Let's do it, Luke. Can we do this already?

1218
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 2: I don't know if we have that power. They never

1219
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 2: call us from the war room, and that's for our advice.

1220
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: But can you do this, UFC please? Okay, Hey, put Colvington.

1221
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 2: Put Colvington versus Leon on that undercard, Luke, make it

1222
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: the Colemane. All right, just do that?

1223
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: Fine?

1224
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 2: Give us this fight, please?

1225
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: Hey, I don't We don't have a ton of time

1226
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: on this, but let's run through these if we can

1227
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: just a little bit. Be Sie.

1228
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 2: We got plenty of time. There's not much left in

1229
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: the show.

1230
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: We got well again, tell the audience the truth. It

1231
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: ain't your boy. It ain't your boy, boy telling us

1232
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: think it out. It ain't your boy. The other people

1233
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 1: are telling me that. All right, but let's go through

1234
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: this here a little bit. So this one is. It's

1235
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: a fine fight, but it's not the one that it

1236
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 1: was supposed to be one, arn't you. Letta is gonna

1237
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: fight hero Masa Ogikubo. Ogakubo was part of the original

1238
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: Bell Tour versus Rising Card. It was supposed to be

1239
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: one of the Asacoro brothers, but he got injured. This

1240
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: course will be super rising to July twenty nine, Cindia, Spence,

1241
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: Crawford and all that other good stuff. He's filling in

1242
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: on short notice replacement basically. So there's that Martine Boudet

1243
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: taking on Josh Parizi in UC Vegas seventy eight. If

1244
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: you care, we se, I don't know, if you care

1245
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: at all, I don't care about that. I'm sorry, Angelusa

1246
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: taking on Rise mcke. Rise McKee is back in the

1247
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: UFC after having a bit of a sojourn outside.

1248
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 2: Of It looks like Reese to me, Luke, it could be.

1249
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, I don't know, I

1250
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. The answer.

1251
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 2: Okay, Latino, what is it? What do you think it is?

1252
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: Here's Latino.

1253
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably it'd be.

1254
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: Rais McKee, McKee, I'm not sure they would say it

1255
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: Rais Ben wassing Deny taking on Thiago Mois. This is

1256
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: actually it's a pretty good fight. That's what's gonna be

1257
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: in UFC Paris as well. I love that contest. They're

1258
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: gonna redo it BC September ninth, UFC two ninety three

1259
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: Justin Tafa uh and versus Austin Lane. Remember that one

1260
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: with a horrible ipoke.

1261
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: Fight announcements, Luke, yep, keep going.

1262
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: All right, Blood Diamond is back taking on a guy

1263
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: I've never heard of, Charles Ratkey UFC two ninety three,

1264
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: September ninth, uh Cynthia Calvijo taking on at least red

1265
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: UFC Las Vegas.

1266
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 2: Fighting for her job, Luke, she's fighting for Ari.

1267
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: Gotta be right, gotta be gotta.

1268
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:42,919
Speaker 2: Play the danger sound bite.

1269
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: Yes, this one is actually not bad. Jake Collier, who

1270
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: has I think is respectable, taken on Kumara's brother Mohammed Usman,

1271
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: UFC Vegas, seventy nine, September twenty three, Irena Alexiva taken

1272
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: on Melissa Dixon UFC. Fight boy, these these are these

1273
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: are setting the world on fire, are they not? October fourteenth.

1274
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: This one's kind of interesting, and this is a legitimate

1275
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: step up for him. Muhammed and Makay have taken on

1276
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: Tim Elliott. You have Sea ten twenty four October twenty first. Yes,

1277
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: that one I do like because Makaya's got a lot

1278
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: of ability but not a lot of refinement, and Elliot's

1279
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: gonna push him. By the way, Elliott is a genius Elliott.

1280
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I know his personal life fell apart in

1281
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: the last year, but but he is one of the

1282
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: only guys who's ever said, yes, I openly cheat. It's

1283
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: not my job to not cheat. It's the referee's job

1284
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: to enforce it. If they don't enforce it, why the

1285
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: fuck wouldn't I And I'm like, yeah, that's true, Shit,

1286
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: that's totally true.

1287
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: I mean, Ronard Hopkins fought his whole career luke waiting

1288
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 2: for the referee to get on the behind the shoulder

1289
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 2: of his opponent and then using his offhand to do

1290
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 2: whatever he needed to poke, to hold, to push. You

1291
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. It's John Stockton too, Luke. That

1292
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 2: guy was dirty as shit. He'd pull on your shorts,

1293
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 2: he'd do all that stuff.

1294
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I don't know if you. I don't

1295
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 1: know how. I don't know how the boxing world feels

1296
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: about this BC. But going through the Sewan excuse me,

1297
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: the Sean Porter and Erol Spence fight, Dude, Spence punched

1298
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: him below the belt fifty nine thousand times in that fight,

1299
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: like repeatedly, and people got on the ref for being like,

1300
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, uh no, So they got on the in

1301
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: the Ugas fight, they got on him for like intervening,

1302
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like, dude, he was punching low in that

1303
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: fight too, you know, but okay, not neither here nor there.

1304
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: And then lastly, but not leastly, he has withdrawn from

1305
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Does anybody care a movlid Habbu Laya of

1306
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one PFL champion is out, dude, by

1307
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: the way.

1308
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 2: List Luke, that involves everybody that popped for steroids and

1309
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 2: Kayla Harrison as to more reasons why, Like I want

1310
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 2: to get excited about the PFL playoffs, but they they

1311
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: took all our friends away, Luke, and now they're like, well,

1312
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 2: we'll call you Sada.

1313
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: I like many of the fighters on the PFL roster.

1314
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: I like uh many of the fights that they make.

1315
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: I don't really care about the tournament all that much

1316
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: these days. It doesn't do a lot for me. I'd

1317
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: be curious to see what model they go to, if

1318
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: and when they fully acquire go to the.

1319
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 2: Grand Prix model, Luke, which with the Grand Prep model.

1320
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 2: Basically that Bellator's employed the last few years has been

1321
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 2: when you have a division that's hot and deep, take

1322
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 2: a year and go to that. You know, like not everything,

1323
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 2: I don't I mean, like, I don't know. They've put

1324
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 2: a lot, Luke into their identity, the format and the

1325
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 2: intelligence of the cage. Maybe that format needs to be

1326
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 2: quirked if they create a super league, if you.

1327
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: Bring in Bellator's rounded cage, and then you've got to

1328
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: ask Jeeves cage. You know, does it turn into the

1329
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: Alta Vista, does it turn into the bing dot com cage?

1330
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: What does it turn into the Uber eats? I don't know.

1331
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 2: You want to do the fan subthing, Luke, that's what we.

1332
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: Should what should we call it? Should we call it

1333
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: the Ask Jeeves Cage or should we call it the

1334
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: Uber Eats Cage. I don't even know anymore.

1335
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 2: Dude. If anyone gets the exclusive, I want it for

1336
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 2: us so badly, the first interview with the voice of

1337
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 2: the Smart Cage. Just like Luke Day, I still am

1338
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 2: holding out one day that I'm the first person that

1339
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 2: interviews Al Hayman on camera. That's that's one day, Luke, one.

1340
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: Day, right, one day. Yeah, you're gonna be the guy

1341
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: that gets that. There was gonna be. You got a

1342
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: better chance of growing a dick out of your forehead.

1343
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: That's not happening it at all. What are you talking about?

1344
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 2: You never know?

1345
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: Okay, and that's it for uh, that's it for announcements,

1346
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: slow news day.

1347
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 2: Well, every Wednesday, we give you the chance to uh

1348
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 2: have a little moment, put your artwork on our refrigerator.

1349
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 2: Morning Coombat at gmail dot com is the email address.

1350
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 2: Mikey Mormile is the filter that stops you from being

1351
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 2: inappropriate or unfunny. Well, actually that's up to you the unfunniness.

1352
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 2: But we'll give you the chance to wear tight T

1353
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 2: shirts show us your cable management. This one's called fan submissions, franship.

1354
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: Fure.

1355
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 2: We've got a lot of male viewers Luke. This week,

1356
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 2: let's hear from Mark. He says, hello, my favorite Donks.

1357
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 2: Went out with my bro to see Rivers of Nile

1358
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: Yes at the Vogue Theater in Vancouver. Enjoyed some downtown

1359
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 2: walking and great dinner at the Revolving Restaurant, all the

1360
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 2: while rocking MK merch thanks for making my weeks great

1361
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 2: with the awesome content. Been a follower since the beginning.

1362
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 2: So basically, Luke, Mark went out with his boy in Vancouver,

1363
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 2: but put on the MK for that. You're done with this?

1364
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, two things. First of all, Vancouver looks amazing.

1365
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're shack when we need him right.

1366
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: Probably texting me and when I'm when I don't want

1367
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: him to. You know, he does YO, tweet this, tweet

1368
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: thank you, Hey, retweet me. I'm annoying.

1369
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 2: Oh come, that's our guys. Stop that.

1370
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he might as well just text me that, Hey,

1371
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: I'm annoying. Repeat this. Uh, but I'll say this BC.

1372
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 1: Rivers of Nile is the band I have tried to

1373
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: get you to pay attention to because it's not only

1374
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: progressive metal, but they have a saxophonist in the band.

1375
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: I's a metal band with a saxophone. That's a best

1376
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: real thing. And you might be like, has it sound? Well,

1377
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: not all of it works, but when it does work,

1378
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: it's like you've never heard anything quite like it. So

1379
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: Rivers of Nile two thumbs up for me, dude, Rivers

1380
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: of Nile, Like twenty nineteen where the owls know I

1381
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: think it's cool, where the owls know my name or

1382
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: know our name. That was like the album of the

1383
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: year in like twenty nineteen, twenty twenty.

1384
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 2: People in the jazz fusion world already know Luke Sachs

1385
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 2: equals sex when you add it on, you know what

1386
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 2: I'm saying, if you add it on smartly, correctly, like

1387
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I want to play sax real bad Luke,

1388
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 2: just to improve my.

1389
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: Culture with your mouth daily.

1390
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,479
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, let's go over to Paul. He says, good morning, y'all.

1391
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 2: I hope everyone of MK is doing well. Here's a

1392
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 2: collage in some close ups of my point multi match

1393
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 2: that I won this past weekend. It's another entry as

1394
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 2: an unofficial candidate for Donk Hammer of the Month. Since

1395
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 2: this is an entry level match where only semi contact

1396
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 2: is allowed and some volume plus variety wins the decision,

1397
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 2: I embraced my inner out of soynya. Excuse me to

1398
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 2: maintain range and angles. The highlights are actually bloopers, as

1399
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 2: I landed an accidentally hard liver kick in round one,

1400
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 2: then my opponent accidentally landed a direct kip to my

1401
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 2: cup in round two. My volunteer corner and I also

1402
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 2: laughed because we accidentally dropped the water bottle on myself

1403
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 2: between rounds, like a prime Diddy boxing Yoel Romero. The

1404
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 2: difference is that I got up in time and won

1405
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 2: that match outright, two rounds to zero. Afterwards, everyone was

1406
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 2: all smiles and supportive. We're just wanting to keep progressing forward.

1407
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 2: I'd like to win some of these while continuing my

1408
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 2: submission streak in blue belt grappling, then do full contact

1409
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 2: muy Thai, and then full contact MMA at eighty five

1410
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 2: or two oh five. Perhaps we can introduce BC to

1411
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 2: some regional MMA down here while there's a UFC or

1412
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 2: boxing card, y'all are visiting for Luke. Where is he referencing?

1413
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 2: Where's he from? Do you have any indication here?

1414
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: I don't. I've been trying to figure it out. I

1415
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: haven't heard anything that would give it away.

1416
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 2: All right, Well, here's a weekend warrior here, Luke. Not

1417
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 2: quite Christian Deguero, But do you have respect for his

1418
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 2: game just the same?

1419
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,919
Speaker 1: Sure, Sure, anybody who goes and knows this stuff. It's

1420
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 1: not easy, and the hardest part is also that like

1421
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: your friends and teammates are there, you know, so if

1422
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: you get flat lined, it's like holy shit, like now

1423
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 1: I have to face them. But it's point fighting, so

1424
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: it's not you know, it's it's appropriately challenged for the

1425
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: people who are taking part in it.

1426
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,959
Speaker 2: So does point fighting mean like karate kid tournament level

1427
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 2: stakes where it's like you can land one heart strike

1428
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 2: but not full power.

1429
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: I don't know the IKF Muay Thai point rules. I'm

1430
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: gonna guess that. You know, it's a lot of like

1431
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: touching versus like hardcore punching.

1432
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 2: You know, Okay, no one's getting fed in the no.

1433
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: Okay.

1434
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 2: Look, let's hear from sau Wool. We love this guy, right,

1435
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 2: whether we think he looks like Little Anthony or not.

1436
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 2: Sawel says I took her out. It was a Sunday night.

1437
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,080
Speaker 2: I wore MK merch to get the feeling right. My

1438
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 2: wife and I traveled to Nashville this weekend to see

1439
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 2: Blink one eight two, and mid show Tom DeLong said

1440
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 2: something with Aliens is coming soon. You'll welcome, so thank them.

1441
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 2: I guess show was over and we went out to

1442
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 2: the bars. Typically the bar live bands will be playing country,

1443
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 2: but tonight they were covering early two thousands and late

1444
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 2: nineties hits. It was an amazing night. We stayed at

1445
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 2: Dolly Parton themed hotel. We ate at the Rooftop restaurant,

1446
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 2: all while shamelessly wearing a T shirt that got a

1447
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 2: lot of head turns. Two people told me I was

1448
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 2: bold and one asked if it was something X rated.

1449
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 2: Once I explained, they lost almost all interests and said, well,

1450
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 2: cool shirt either way. It's MK all day, Luke, your

1451
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 2: thoughts on Saoul living the life here Saoul.

1452
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: That's me explaining my career to my family. Once I

1453
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: started doing it, they lost all interest. I gotta say, Nashville,

1454
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 1: great town, great great town.

1455
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 2: I've never been, but I want to so badly.

1456
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: Luke, Oh my god, dude, you've never been to nah No.

1457
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 2: I've done Austin, and I feel like Nashville is just

1458
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 2: a East Austin, right kind.

1459
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: Of It's different than Austin. Dude, it's way different than Austin. Okay,

1460
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: Austin is like a weird I don't know what it

1461
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: is anymore because there's so many people have moved there

1462
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: and it's all changed. But it was kind of like

1463
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: a hippie version of Texas. Now I think it's a

1464
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: little bit different. But Nashville is like in the United

1465
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: States anyway. Nashville is the home hardcore of country music.

1466
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: And the way to understand that is I couldn't believe

1467
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 1: how true was. Someone was like, dude, you're gonna hear

1468
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: some of the best singing in your life here. You

1469
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 1: have to think of it like La. You're going to

1470
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: go to La and there's always some asshole in a

1471
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 1: Starbucks going over some bullshit script for some tryout that's

1472
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: gonna take them nowhere. Like Nashville is that for country singers. So, dude,

1473
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 1: you'll just walk down the street and a coffee shop

1474
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: at a restaurant or a bar, whatever, and there's someone

1475
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 1: playing in there, and you cannot believe how good they are.

1476
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 1: I don't even like country music.

1477
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 2: That's Austin just the same, Luke. I mean, it's like this,

1478
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 2: It's like that for Austin has music, barbecue and weirdness

1479
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 2: like that, but now they have comedy as well, Luke,

1480
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 2: how much do you believe that Joe Rogan Mothership has

1481
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 2: has dramatically altered the comedic scene in Austin.

1482
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,879
Speaker 1: I couldn't possibly tell you. I haven't been to Austin

1483
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: in some time.

1484
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 2: All Right, all the big names got invited, Luke to

1485
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 2: come down there. I'm hoping if I can get a

1486
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 2: hard enough five going, Luke, if I can hang out

1487
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 2: with record, just.

1488
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: Just the skidding and the bidding here, I do.

1489
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 2: Why is there a skit? Why is there any connection

1490
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 2: to a skin here?

1491
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: Luke? Okay, I actually don't. You're right, in fairness, I

1492
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,719
Speaker 1: don't even know. I can only assume. I can only

1493
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 1: assume that they're skidding and bidding.

1494
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 2: But just love to get that invite, Luke, so we

1495
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 2: can get all the big names down there.

1496
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: I still, by the way, you don't need to wait

1497
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 1: on Joe Rogan's invite to the Comedy Mothership. You can

1498
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 1: go to any old comedy club and just do it

1499
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 1: open mic night. You can film it for us.

1500
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. But if I'm on a debut, I'm gonna go

1501
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 2: big like like I want, like Showtime Special, big, Luke,

1502
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 2: So I gotta really work on getting that five. You're

1503
01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 2: no stop. Actually, when I meant by Showtime Special meant

1504
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 2: the don remember documentary Number eight was supposed to be

1505
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 2: me at a comedy club in Jersey City. That was

1506
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 2: the that was the gift.

1507
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 1: It was going to be.

1508
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 2: I was gonna live and die by my own you know,

1509
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 2: comedy look and get set off in flames on the stage.

1510
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 1: Mostly mostly die, mostly mostly probably die.

1511
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's there's probably only about a thousand

1512
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 2: of them in the world, Luke. We are actually, you know,

1513
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 2: very good at that job. I'd love to one day

1514
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 2: be that, but I'm more of like a dick joke

1515
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 2: guy on a podcast. Thank you so well. Look, some

1516
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 2: people hate fan subs because they think it's just like,

1517
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 2: do I really need to see some dude in a

1518
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 2: tight T shirt going on the weekend trip? Yes, these

1519
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 2: are people right.

1520
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: By the way. He had a rain energy drink, which

1521
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 1: are the chef's kiss truly of energy drinks.

1522
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 2: Okay, you have limits, Luke, where you don't like, you

1523
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 2: don't let the fans too close to you. You say

1524
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 2: that I'm putting out milk to the to the homeless

1525
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 2: cats and all that. BS Luke, would you welcome a

1526
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 2: segment where once a month, a beloved fan came on

1527
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 2: for an actual fight breakdown segment, joined us, joined us.

1528
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 2: Are you against that outright?

1529
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? I'm super against that.

1530
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, I'm fine to laugh at your cable management,

1531
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 2: but I don't need your hot take soul is that well?

1532
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: Well no, no, I didn't say I was against their hot takes. Like,

1533
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 1: one thing that b ABC and I have discussed is

1534
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 1: like setting up some kind of phone line or even

1535
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 1: like a video address where you guys can send in

1536
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: videos of yourselves making some kind of point, asking a question, whatever,

1537
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,799
Speaker 1: and then us playing and reacting to that. I'm totally

1538
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: on board with fan integration in that way.

1539
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

1540
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, you want to do that? Yeah, Hey, if

1541
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 1: you guys want to do that, fucking email mikey morning

1542
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: Combat at gmail dot com. But granted, Mike has been

1543
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,719
Speaker 1: trying to help me unf the mess that I've created,

1544
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 1: uh for other these other projects I'm working on, But

1545
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: that is something I think we should do. I really

1546
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 1: want to do that.

1547
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 2: I would like to do that on the regular look,

1548
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 2: get it up close and personal with our people, not

1549
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 2: live though, right, you don't want them live at all.

1550
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: I think Live you're just gonna get You're just gonna

1551
01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 1: be like Chatroulette, just guys jacking off.

1552
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I just it's gonna be like like when

1553
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 2: somebody would call in live on like CNN and do

1554
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,759
Speaker 2: the Howard Stern bit right, drop the line, yeah, yeah.

1555
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: Haven, yeah, you know. I remember the UFC. I remember

1556
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 1: the UFC conference calls, like this is the UFC conference

1557
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 1: call for UFC one twelve or whatever it was, And

1558
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: they would do the conference calls and then there would

1559
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 1: be some guy and there'd be like, hey, Dana, tell

1560
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 1: me why my balls are so big? Howard Stern's the best, and.

1561
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, let's hear from Joshua. It's our final fins. Above.

1562
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 1: The week had a bunch of morning Huh.

1563
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 2: Good morning, BC and LT. I'm a Day one listener,

1564
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 2: but a first time fan subber. While I often feel

1565
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 2: for BC as he struggles, like Andy Dufrayne through the

1566
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 2: shite tunnel that his English word conjugation, he's made this

1567
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 2: particular error oft times that it's time for me to

1568
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 2: adopt pride rules and kick him while he's down. Mucco's

1569
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 2: gracious and all the love from Joshua, keeping your Canadian

1570
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 2: fandom alive and kicking here in Chili whack BC. I

1571
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 2: think he means British Columbia. Luke, can you break down

1572
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,919
Speaker 2: the grammar issue here on this Wednesday dead wrong apparently?

1573
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not so sure what's wrong with adaptations because

1574
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 1: this sub looks like it's been beat to shit, but

1575
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: it isn't going to experience whole crushing depth.

1576
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 2: They're saying that I use the word adaptions when I

1577
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 2: should be using adaptations. And if I was, i'd be

1578
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 2: above water like you are in that picture. But by

1579
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 2: using adaptions, I become just like a failing submarine.

1580
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't think adaptions is a word.

1581
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 1: It is the problem it could be.

1582
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 2: But I believe adaptions is a word, which is why

1583
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 2: I use it.

1584
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: Luke, I don't believe that. I don't believe it is

1585
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: a word.

1586
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, adaptions, adaption, it's it's are you reading it?

1587
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: Spell it outright?

1588
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 2: A D A P T I O N. According to

1589
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 2: Merriam Webster dot com, Luke, it's a uh, it's a word, Okay.

1590
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't mean I don't think adaption and adaptation

1591
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: are the same, or it's not the appropriate use of

1592
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 1: the word even if it is.

1593
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, grabbing life by the grammar hammer

1594
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 2: is very pedantic, Luke. You know that's what we do Fridays.

1595
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 2: We do dead wrong and we put up with these

1596
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 2: Well you actually said this instead of that, you know,

1597
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,600
Speaker 2: I mean we do it for accountability, Luke, for ambudsmanship.

1598
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 1: Right at one seventeen of episode five, six Balls, BC

1599
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 1: said the word asplay. What he meant was buddocks Like okay.

1600
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:35,560
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, yeah.

1601
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 1: Why are we doing that?

1602
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 2: Thank you for your fans. Ubs Friday will be Dead

1603
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 2: Wrong Morning Combat at gmail dot com. Luke, like Sully

1604
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 2: Sullenberger under pressure, we landed this plane in plenty of

1605
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: time before we did.

1606
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 1: We got heads up like five seconds before the show

1607
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: went live. They're like, uh, guys, we have to be

1608
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: out of here in ninety minutes. There's another show coming

1609
01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: in here. And we're like, okay, all right, well we

1610
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: didn't know that to start, but here we are. Well

1611
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 1: we did it, we did it.

1612
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 2: I mean, do you think these shorter concise shows are

1613
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 2: the future of m K Luke? I like babbling with

1614
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 2: my balls off for two hours. To be fair, you

1615
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

1616
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 1: What else? The better question is is there an MK future?

1617
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1618
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 2: MK has a future. We're just kind of waiting on

1619
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 2: some key details about that future.

1620
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 1: I tease, I tease by the.

1621
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 3: Phone for you to call me up. Ben, tell me

1622
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 3: I'm not alone. I want somebody to shove Luke. Look,

1623
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 3: I want to push you around.

1624
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 2: I will, I will want.

1625
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: To push you around. Yes?

1626
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 2: Will you know saying that? Rob Thomas Luke? It's funny, right,

1627
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:48,520
Speaker 2: it's ironic.

1628
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 1: My dad just tweeted me with a link to olive

1629
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 1: oil soap. He doesn't he texted me, I should say

1630
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 1: he texted me to a link with olive oil soap.

1631
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 1: Olive oil was the soap of the ancient world. Okay, Dad, I'm.

1632
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 2: Surprised he wasn't like, Hey, Son, are you happen to

1633
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 2: be in Vegas this week for that really big fight

1634
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 2: that you keep telling me about? Any chance you could

1635
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 2: use this substance on my rental home? And just kind

1636
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 2: of yeah.

1637
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: He's like, uh, He's like, I've got some dangerous tenants

1638
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 1: that need to be evicted. Could you help me with? Son?

1639
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 2: Didn't you didn't you say you practiced that jiu jitsu stuff. Yeah, please, Yeah,

1640
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 2: all right, go out there and handle it. Luke. My

1641
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 2: dream on this show is still is still to get

1642
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 2: a live MK interview with either your dad or your

1643
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 2: brother to really go back and figure out why Luke

1644
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 2: Thomas is the way he is.

1645
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a zero point zero percent chance of that

1646
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: ever happening. Yeah, you just don't understand these people, dude,

1647
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 1: you barely understand me. You don't understand them at all.

1648
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 2: Like, all right, well, I've got love for all the Thomases, Luke.

1649
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 1: All right, that makes one of us, no I'm teasing.

1650
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 2: Is my favorite Thomas by far.

1651
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: Okay, up there, Yes, that's right. Let's remind everyone showtime

1652
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: dot Com is the label that pays. You can go

1653
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 1: to Showtime dot Com get a thirty day free trial

1654
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 1: if you'd like, you can keep it, if not, do

1655
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 1: something else with your life. Pretty simple. You can go

1656
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 1: to Morning Coombat dot Store, Morningcombat dot Store for all

1657
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 1: of dom merch and everything else that might be available there,

1658
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 1: and then of course to reach the show. And by

1659
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: the way, I'm actually interested in hearing from the fans.

1660
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 1: I want to be clear one more time, I'm working

1661
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: on this Spence scouting report that has just absolutely tortured

1662
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 1: my life. That should be done soon. So I don't

1663
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 1: know if we'll have time to get into any kind

1664
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 1: of video stuff for Friday, but maybe for next week

1665
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 1: or but the week after, depending how things go. I

1666
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,640
Speaker 1: would love to get I would love to react to

1667
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: the viewers sending us stuff with them talking.

1668
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 2: Don't forget, Luke, don't forget. I want to put it

1669
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 2: on the radar again. Next week Tuesday, July twenty fifth,

1670
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 2: not only my forty fifth birthday, but a battle for

1671
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 2: the Unified Junior Featherweight Championship of the World when Pumper

1672
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 2: Pound King Niowa a new A moves up and wait

1673
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 2: challenges defending unified champions Stephen Fulton Junior Luke. That fight,

1674
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 2: which I believe will air on ESPN Plus from Japan.

1675
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 2: According to Mike Coppinger's Twitter eight a m Eastern time

1676
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 2: main event start. So not only will your boy BC

1677
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 2: be dialed up there breakfast at wilmbledon style, Luke, I'll

1678
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 2: be hitting you with an instant reaction right out, Yes,

1679
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 2: live local and late breaking, so that's you know, late

1680
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,560
Speaker 2: morning Tuesday, right, not bad, not bad. I don't. You

1681
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 2: won't see Ariel getting up that early and doing that, Luke.

1682
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 1: He used to for the weigh ends on MM fighting.

1683
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:43,839
Speaker 2: He did.

1684
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: I know for a fact, because I'd be like, dude,

1685
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: why the fuck are you doing that? He'd love to

1686
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 1: do it.

1687
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 2: You know, one of these days Ario is gonna beat

1688
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 2: us in one of these podcast awards, Luke. In our streak,

1689
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 2: you know, our reign will be over. But you know

1690
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 2: we've had a great run. Yeah, I mean we've had

1691
01:18:57,760 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 2: a tremendous run.

1692
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would say that that's probably, but yeah,

1693
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:02,560
Speaker 1: we did. We had a couple of good years. We

1694
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 1: had a couple of good years you.

1695
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 2: Could take, you could say great really some of the best. Really,

1696
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 2: the best stretch of my entire career.

1697
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 1: Luke.

1698
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 2: I really want to thank you for that.

1699
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I feel pretty similar actually, except having

1700
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 1: to see your stupid jaundice face every day. Other than that,

1701
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: it's been.

1702
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 2: That's not jaundice, that's that's tan Luke. Riding the new

1703
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 2: riding moll where it cuts my time in half. Luke,

1704
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:23,719
Speaker 2: you know how.

1705
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: Often are you mowing your yard? If you're doing it

1706
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 1: more than once a month, you're a piece of shit.

1707
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 2: I'm actually on like a twice a week schedule right

1708
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 2: now because this is the first year since I've moved

1709
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 2: here that I'm committed to having a nice front lawn.

1710
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:36,560
Speaker 2: The back of yawn is a is a mess, but

1711
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 2: the front and side yard, Luke, I'm trying to, you know,

1712
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 2: show the neighbors that I've got some class.

1713
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 1: Your kids just sit around not doing chores.

1714
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 2: No, my wife is pushing me to train them on it,

1715
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 2: and I have. But what they don't understand is as

1716
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 2: much as I want my kids to earn their keep

1717
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 2: and learn responsibility and not become a full grown adult

1718
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 2: with no man skills, which happened to me, Luke, Uh,

1719
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 2: what they don't understand is that mowing my lawn is

1720
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 2: like my happy place. It's my safe place, It's my

1721
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I turn off the rest

1722
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 2: of the world. I put on those noise blocking headphones

1723
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 2: that you wear all through the Newark train station, diving

1724
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,719
Speaker 2: in and out of age, Luke, and you know, for

1725
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 2: an hour and a half, the world's good and I

1726
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 2: can solve all of its problems.

1727
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about brassers.

1728
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think you need that anywhere now,

1729
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 2: I said, ninety minutes, not ninety seconds. Look, okay, thank you.

1730
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: All right. On that note, I think we're done here today. Hey,

1731
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: thanks to the crew at CBS who have helped us

1732
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,680
Speaker 1: doing the show. I don't know if the folks at

1733
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 1: home can tell, but we are trying to do some

1734
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,839
Speaker 1: things a little bit differently and level up the production,

1735
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,759
Speaker 1: and I think they did a fantastic job today, Mickey

1736
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 1: Mormon on the crew down there in Florida helping us

1737
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 1: out with this, so we really really appreciate it and

1738
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 1: helping make the show success today. Okay, all right, So

1739
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 1: for everyone there at CBS and everyone at showtime, Melcho,

1740
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 1: the whole crew. That's Brian Campbell, I'm Luke Thomas. We'll

1741
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 1: talk to you guys on Friday, and until then, all

1742
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:57,759
Speaker 1: of your gains be loyal.