Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black
Speaker 1: Effect and our Heart Radio in partnership with Showtime. M H.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of All the Smoke. It's
Speaker 1: been a good little l a trip. Jack. Yeah, we've
Speaker 1: been working in the asshole, but that's what we do.
Speaker 1: You fitted today, tell me they can't get that ship
Speaker 1: at all the Smoke Dot Store. Of course, I didn't
Speaker 1: know a couple of weeks ago, but I've been looking
Speaker 1: so good and the ship, I gotta tell you. Gotta know, man,
Speaker 1: we got a good one today. Man to me, someone
Speaker 1: I've been working with since early early Yeah, man to me,
Speaker 1: one of the best in the game, no pun intended.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show game. Appreciate you pulling up on
Speaker 1: us us. Uh Man, what's going on with you? We
Speaker 1: heard the album's coming soon. How's life right now? Um Man?
Speaker 1: You know if I feel, I feel like if I
Speaker 1: wake up man in life is good. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying this? Really, if you wake up and your
Speaker 1: kids is good, and you know you can with your
Speaker 1: toes and fingers, you shouldn't have much to complain about.
Speaker 1: How are the kids? I know you put the kids first,
Speaker 1: So how are they doing. Yeah, I don't nobody need
Speaker 1: help with nothing. That's all I'm hearing is I got it,
Speaker 1: I got it right. And it's like, yeah, once you
Speaker 1: get them to that point, you can kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: dive back into you know, living your own life. Harlem
Speaker 1: is at Oregon um hoping and uh he almost nineteen.
Speaker 1: That's the baby on the documentary, which is crazy because
Speaker 1: time just be out of here, you know. I'm so
Speaker 1: I can remember really trying to get him, trying to
Speaker 1: trying to get him to stop crying on the album
Speaker 1: cover so we can get my photo. Now he doing
Speaker 1: this thing up in Oregon, man, and then uh my
Speaker 1: my middle something by the turn fifteen on Saturday. And
Speaker 1: then Callie is everybody Mama, she eleven, She's the boss
Speaker 1: five eight though, so it's like, you know, yeah, uh
Speaker 1: album coming, Drillmatic tells us about that, who's on it,
Speaker 1: who helped produce it? Into dropping Drillmatic. What I can
Speaker 1: say about is, uh, this is like, uh really really
Speaker 1: me and rare forms it's probably my it's not even
Speaker 1: probably it's my best album to date. I know that's
Speaker 1: you know, when I tell people that, saying yeah, it
Speaker 1: is ain't a lot um. But you know, I've been
Speaker 1: with myself my whole career, and I know, uh, I
Speaker 1: know when I'm pushing, when I pushed myself to certain limits,
Speaker 1: what I'm what I'm gonna be able to accomplish. So
Speaker 1: this album is definitely definitely the best best album of
Speaker 1: my career and definitely gonna be the best best hip
Speaker 1: hop album this year. Who who'd you get to work with?
Speaker 1: Who helped produce producing it? Straight? It's hit boy um
Speaker 1: off off rep Hip and boy majority is hit Boy,
Speaker 1: my dog Big Duke, and then uh, this kid Davon,
Speaker 1: who is amazing, came in the fourth quarter. You know,
Speaker 1: I got the Timerlins and Swiss beats and you know,
Speaker 1: just blaze um in there. But yeah, it's just work
Speaker 1: and with my working in the house with my guys,
Speaker 1: you know, the guys you build a chemistry with. It's
Speaker 1: sort of like that Premo Nas moment. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, when you when you're working with people you're
Speaker 1: comfortable with. It ain't nobody from the West Coast that
Speaker 1: go hard on the jet Blade you belong with. Yeah everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I had to make sure I gotta you know,
Speaker 1: I got one from Josh Blade, Sir going and raised
Speaker 1: in competent in nineteen eighties. You said you don't even
Speaker 1: like to talk about your past because it was so
Speaker 1: messed up, you know what saying? You want to talk
Speaker 1: about the future for your kids. Explain that to me. Um,
Speaker 1: I just feel like, you know, a lot of people
Speaker 1: like just like to delve in in in the past
Speaker 1: past situations. I think, uh, um, when you think about
Speaker 1: situations to sort of rendered you helpless, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, You get you can, it's easily for you.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's easy for you to dive back into
Speaker 1: those emotions too, and then to pull yourself back out
Speaker 1: of that and try to function in a in a
Speaker 1: present day can be a little bit more difficult, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I'm trying not to focus
Speaker 1: on the past at all. Like the past, the past,
Speaker 1: and you know my past is so you know back
Speaker 1: there that um, it almost seems you know, it's surreal,
Speaker 1: like it didn't even really happen or it wasn't my life,
Speaker 1: Like getting shot. That's starting to be like a fad
Speaker 1: of memory, you know what I'm saying. Like, really, you
Speaker 1: know some people that I even went to high school.
Speaker 1: What I see and you know, don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: not to you know, shoot on nobody. It's just that
Speaker 1: I leave that there. You know what I'm saying, I'm
Speaker 1: so focused on like tomorrow that I can't even like
Speaker 1: turn around for too long, you know. Yeah, and and
Speaker 1: and that that kind of goes to me not being
Speaker 1: able to really relate to people that they've really been
Speaker 1: through nothing. You know what I'm saying, You go through
Speaker 1: so much in the past to give what we are
Speaker 1: now is like Mann, what happened back then? Like I'm
Speaker 1: here and I'm trying to stay here, especially especially the
Speaker 1: hurtful moments. You know what what I'm saying, the things that
Speaker 1: you know could have damned they're killed you or you know,
Speaker 1: people that you know passed away or meant untimely demonss
Speaker 1: back then. Like I ain't really trying to think about that,
Speaker 1: you know facts. What's your favorite part of being a father?
Speaker 1: I think just that that aspect. I think that, uh,
Speaker 1: having people that you created, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you like we we don't even give ourselves as
Speaker 1: much praise, you know, as we should, Like you're creating
Speaker 1: humans like that, Like you know, you've got people out here.
Speaker 1: You know they you know, working factories. They're creating trucks.
Speaker 1: You've got people creating computers, micro shop were creating people
Speaker 1: that create things. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it's like yeah, yeah, Like as a father, you know,
Speaker 1: that's what you really want. You know, you know, the
Speaker 1: mothers be hot when they come out looking just like you.
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, Um, the best part of being being
Speaker 1: a father is just that, like being able to um reredo,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, relive your life doing them,
Speaker 1: being able to you know, tell them yo, no no,
Speaker 1: to go around that or go left for them, go here,
Speaker 1: I've been through that, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: that's that's the best part to me, is just being
Speaker 1: able to really really be like the tutor for them. Uh.
Speaker 1: You were known for hooping back in your day, probably
Speaker 1: one of the best rapping basketball players. Uh. Talk to
Speaker 1: people how you fell in love with basketball? The young age? Um? Basketball,
Speaker 1: the young age it was. It was the first of
Speaker 1: my grandmother. Um where I got my you know, got
Speaker 1: my name from games. She used to take me to
Speaker 1: the Great Western Form. We used to watch magic and
Speaker 1: you know, Magic do his thing and the showtime Lakers,
Speaker 1: James Worthy and all of them. Uh, Michael Thompson, Michael Cooper,
Speaker 1: like you know those guys so early on, Like you know,
Speaker 1: basketball has always been like you know, really implemented and
Speaker 1: and was was implementing my childhood. My pop star used
Speaker 1: to hoop a little bit. He wanted to shoot with
Speaker 1: two hand niggers. You know what I'm saying. But yeah,
Speaker 1: but but we but we was out there, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But all love and all praise due
Speaker 1: to my grandmother Rest in piece. She would always take
Speaker 1: me to the Lakers game, and so I repaid her
Speaker 1: a few times. Um, you know before she passed, taking
Speaker 1: her to see you know, the Lakers and you know
Speaker 1: Kobe and and and getting getting her shoes signed by
Speaker 1: Kobe and sitting on the wood and so I got
Speaker 1: to it was sort of a three sixty moment. But yeah,
Speaker 1: who is you know, you know what it is? Man?
Speaker 1: Like who your hoop dreams? Man? Um that outlet being
Speaker 1: able to play basketball at the same park as Venus
Speaker 1: and Serena's playing tennis, but not knowing you know, we're
Speaker 1: going parallel universes. It's crazy. So it's like the King
Speaker 1: Richard movie. I could have damned there have been mad
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't in it because right now, But you
Speaker 1: know what's crazy about that is they really was out
Speaker 1: there man, and like he really caught some some hard days,
Speaker 1: some hard times, really trying to get his daughters through.
Speaker 1: But we was all trying to make it out, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you run across them of
Speaker 1: the young age all the time. It was always on
Speaker 1: the tennis court, always on the tennis court, because we're
Speaker 1: all come of the same age. Right. Yeah, Since you
Speaker 1: spoke on the Lakers, Uh, you know that's the team
Speaker 1: you have to live if you're from here, if you're
Speaker 1: in charge, they say, I want you to run this franchise.
Speaker 1: They don't have no significant draft picks this year, no
Speaker 1: real cap space. How you fix the Lakers? Um? How
Speaker 1: you fix the Lakers? She um? I would damn you
Speaker 1: listen to trades for I listened to No, I don't
Speaker 1: listen to trades for us. Keep Rush, keep keep Russ,
Speaker 1: I keep Lebrian, I dump everybody everybody. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: read I keep Monk, I keep on, I keep on
Speaker 1: and look and all those my guys. You know de Howard,
Speaker 1: those my guys. I mean, that's my guy. Um a
Speaker 1: d that's my guy. Um mellow, that's my guy. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I just think that you know,
Speaker 1: too much firepower on the same team is just you
Speaker 1: know what that man? You need? Yeah, you got you
Speaker 1: need role players. Man, it's only one ball. We're talking Westbrook, Carmelo,
Speaker 1: A d um Dwight Howard, we're talking Lebron like you know, Monk,
Speaker 1: like obviously need to rocket some person, man, because he
Speaker 1: just one of those guys. He was like that in Charlotte,
Speaker 1: um and I've been following him since college. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I would I would keep Westbrook for she again, similar
Speaker 1: age you grew up in with, grew up in a
Speaker 1: similar hoops scene. Who is some of the dudes you
Speaker 1: grew up playing with that went pro and maybe some
Speaker 1: of the dude that didn't. I think that the only
Speaker 1: person there was one, one, one guy that I didn't
Speaker 1: want that I fear playing where like when we matched up,
Speaker 1: it was like my heart was beaten before the tip off,
Speaker 1: and uh, we don't know two guys, one of them here,
Speaker 1: one of them not beatty, was so fear Beatty was
Speaker 1: feared three three crazy um. Beatty was feared, and it
Speaker 1: didn't matter when you matched up against cross Roads like
Speaker 1: I've seen like me and beat we we played slimm
Speaker 1: and jam together. He played like you know, we we
Speaker 1: we was around the city like you know, hooping like
Speaker 1: and Beaty did a lot of like street hooping too,
Speaker 1: with street scrapping with a smoke be Yo facts out
Speaker 1: the swans like you know, yeah and uh, and so
Speaker 1: Beattie was. It was fair because even though he played
Speaker 1: for Crossroads and that was in Santa Monica, like that
Speaker 1: was a real hood nigger and so he he knew
Speaker 1: how to keep his composure enough to like not let
Speaker 1: it shine. But that's why we grew up in content
Speaker 1: went to cross Roads. That's why he don't know who
Speaker 1: he wanted to be. We don't know who we want
Speaker 1: to be. But so we we we we we we
Speaker 1: we We went for the tip off at our teas
Speaker 1: at one time, it was probably like tenth grade and
Speaker 1: I had hot like I had dumb bunnies, right, dumb hops.
Speaker 1: So of course I go for the tip I tempted,
Speaker 1: but it go I don't know behind me, So no,
Speaker 1: it went in front of me. Beat caught it that
Speaker 1: nigga muster did like three moves to two steps after
Speaker 1: that and jumped. I jumped with him. Ship in the rim,
Speaker 1: got me, got me, and I ain't been dunked on
Speaker 1: a lot of times. You know, I get physical, like
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a flagrant. But yeah, but not Beat
Speaker 1: took it off. They called my you know, coach call
Speaker 1: the time out and off rip because I was at Freemont,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying with Houston and and and
Speaker 1: um in my whole squad there. But yeah, man, they
Speaker 1: called the time out and coach was like, Yo, what's up?
Speaker 1: And I was like, Yo, I'm ready, I'm ready, and
Speaker 1: then we end up getting smacked anyway, he was crazy.
Speaker 1: And then I caught Uh. I scored thirty on a
Speaker 1: on a Ray Young but he had forty five right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so let me tell you why they used to They
Speaker 1: used to call Ray NBA Ray. Ray is one of
Speaker 1: the coldest hoopers l A ever seen. We talked about
Speaker 1: Ray taking this thirty piece though, said Ray, Look, I
Speaker 1: remember the day. I remember the day, like like yesterday.
Speaker 1: We was. We was in the gym Domus Dominus. Uh
Speaker 1: cow State, Domingus Hills right for a tournament. Thinking. Ray
Speaker 1: walk in Cortet's home. Some short white tea, blond hair,
Speaker 1: blond hair, beautiful eyes. Look, I had a look. I
Speaker 1: had a little chick. I had a little chick with
Speaker 1: me from west Chester. Right. She's like, oh, that heard
Speaker 1: her friends, Oh that's Ray Young. Everybody around the gym,
Speaker 1: pretty boy Ray, like yo, all talked about Nicky. I'm like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we're not going down. It was pretty yo. Man. Ray
Speaker 1: was nasty. He could do everything. Bro. He was. He
Speaker 1: had to jumper. He had his cold little little shimmy fade.
Speaker 1: Hops was out of his world handles. Ray was crazy.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he got now go back then,
Speaker 1: remember that date though, right, crazy And we chopped it
Speaker 1: up after the game, man, and I wonder the thigs
Speaker 1: like I needed, I need to take a shower. After
Speaker 1: the game, Ray was so so pretty boy. And they
Speaker 1: put back his clothes and like the nig didn't looked
Speaker 1: like he sweated. Put he put back on the white
Speaker 1: T shorts. Was still crispy. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: threw back on the court's heads, walking by the right.
Speaker 1: It was good for that. Ul did never used to
Speaker 1: take shot. He liked to lay in the bed after
Speaker 1: we played, like, Bro, get your motherfucking as the show.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna take a quick nap. This nick used
Speaker 1: to take them pills, nah man, shout out the ray
Speaker 1: young man. One of the coaches. Some of the other ones, well,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Bruner obviously obviously stronger than every other nigga on
Speaker 1: the court, just like a pit bull, you know what saying? Um,
Speaker 1: definitely David Hamilton's super crip. Yo. Yo, let me tell
Speaker 1: you all Star game with us the next day. Bro,
Speaker 1: you got shot in the leg and played in the
Speaker 1: game the next day. But look, let me tell ay
Speaker 1: Stack crept. Look, they used to put the nigger in
Speaker 1: the newspaper as David supercrip Hamilton. Yo, bro, we can
Speaker 1: you know you asked the recruiters who they came to
Speaker 1: see all we heard this super cript like I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's you know, I want the internet back then,
Speaker 1: so it was like too many people couldn't too many
Speaker 1: people couldn't weigh in on it. But you know it
Speaker 1: was in the It was in the newspaper and super
Speaker 1: like David supercrip Hamilton. And we're looking like it's bloods
Speaker 1: like I want to be super blood and it's like
Speaker 1: while he had it, bro, he had it man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and not shake cotton. That was our lebron Shaye cotton.
Speaker 1: Shake cotton was all Lebron. Bro. When he walked in
Speaker 1: the gymnna, tell you like she walked in the gym,
Speaker 1: everything stopped. Everybody stopped, everything stopped. Whoever he was playing
Speaker 1: got scared coach everybody, every every tournament and it was
Speaker 1: a fifty piece every night, every night. It's just one
Speaker 1: of those freaking nature type of niggas where he just
Speaker 1: you just knew he was gonna be like you know,
Speaker 1: he was going to like be a Kobe or the
Speaker 1: last freshman in high school that was on the cover,
Speaker 1: crazy bro bro Right, No, not a freshman in high
Speaker 1: school was on the cover as a freshman high school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think nobody's ever done that as a high school.
Speaker 1: It was, uh, is it truth for rumor that you
Speaker 1: got a scholarship to play hoop at Washington State? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was short lived because I chose, I just
Speaker 1: chose gang banging off the rep ro weed on the
Speaker 1: scholarship letters. Mombs was piste off and I really not,
Speaker 1: it's it's a real thing. You know, a lot of
Speaker 1: people it's a it's a laughing moment, yo, it's a
Speaker 1: laughing moment now. But you know, in in in retrospect,
Speaker 1: like I really wanted to take Gangbangers there. That ship
Speaker 1: was cool to me back then, and and like niggas
Speaker 1: was really getting to it. And I didn't have to
Speaker 1: go far to go to Washington hoop and they got
Speaker 1: had to take a plane train, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: To game bang and be an all star in the
Speaker 1: hood and still be able to go to Southwest College
Speaker 1: and you know hoop and and and stay local was
Speaker 1: like a nigga's dream. And you gotta think the mindset
Speaker 1: of a of a of an African American teenager back then,
Speaker 1: you Loki scared the leader hood number one. We can't
Speaker 1: even go too much too far left right, and you
Speaker 1: know in content anyway without getting sweated a trip and
Speaker 1: some thing of going to like you know, having to
Speaker 1: go play in Long Beach just you know, in the
Speaker 1: More League and really going to have to play niggas
Speaker 1: and go that far. So the thing going out of
Speaker 1: state and going that ship like wasn't realistic for a
Speaker 1: kid with no Internet who couldn't see a Washington like
Speaker 1: you couldn't google it, couldn't see it, like just to
Speaker 1: throw yourself into that, like niggas was scared and what
Speaker 1: you were comfortable with was right in front of your face.
Speaker 1: So that was a decision that was a career choice
Speaker 1: for me at the time and for you know, everything
Speaker 1: that happened from Nanta now, I mean, and I'm on
Speaker 1: the couch, so I mean, it was some fucked up
Speaker 1: things that I went through. But I mean, I'm where
Speaker 1: I'm at. What other music did you grow up on?
Speaker 1: I'm really I'm really an old these R and B dude,
Speaker 1: Like when I get in my car, I don't listen
Speaker 1: to no rap like I put on you know, Marvin Gaye,
Speaker 1: appointer Sisters, Like I'm in there rolling to what my
Speaker 1: mom's cleaned up on Saturday. When I when you wake
Speaker 1: up on Saturday and you hear that, you know you
Speaker 1: Annita Baker and Mary Jane girls in the Vacuum, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like that, those that like that
Speaker 1: was the type of music that wrote the soundtrack to
Speaker 1: my childhood. So as an adult, you know, I find
Speaker 1: solace in the listen, you know, listen to what I
Speaker 1: came up on. You got shot and batter injured, You're
Speaker 1: recurring from the hospital and had your brother bring your
Speaker 1: classic hip hop album from there. That's when the game
Speaker 1: took off. Um, I had it was It's a little
Speaker 1: bit more complex than that. I was. I woke up
Speaker 1: bout Tacoma and, uh, for some reason, like I had
Speaker 1: this long recurrent dream that I was, you know, on
Speaker 1: one or six and part couch. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I never wrapped in my life up to this point.
Speaker 1: Actually my brother was a rapper. But um, for some reason,
Speaker 1: I had rode out in my mind five things that
Speaker 1: I wanted to do. Number one was like go apply
Speaker 1: at Home Depot because I was just always drive by.
Speaker 1: Home Depot would always say now hiring, and I figured, like,
Speaker 1: you know, like one day, like I probably could manage
Speaker 1: this thing and be district manager. I'll be running Home Depot.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I had that, uh damn my mind,
Speaker 1: but that was number one. Number two on my list
Speaker 1: was after I got shot, I was like, I'm really
Speaker 1: about to, you know, go back. You know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go go hoop. I'm gonna find somewhere to hoop because
Speaker 1: that was always my love. But then I was shot up,
Speaker 1: so it's like, Niga, how long is that gonna take?
Speaker 1: So third on my list was to uh become this
Speaker 1: huge rap superstar and had no idea that it was
Speaker 1: even possible. It was just I was trying to figure
Speaker 1: out I definitely don't want to get shot again. That
Speaker 1: ship was crazy. So I had to come up with
Speaker 1: five things that that you know, would would be an
Speaker 1: escape for me, and so rap was number three, with
Speaker 1: which ended up and number one because it was the
Speaker 1: easiest to attain. I felt like because all I would
Speaker 1: have to do is get this notebook, study some of
Speaker 1: the greats, and then I would have me some bars. Well,
Speaker 1: even though I thought it was that easy, it wasn't
Speaker 1: because my first ship was like trash. My sister was like,
Speaker 1: you need to stop this now, like nigga weak, and
Speaker 1: I was just like fun that, like I'm about to
Speaker 1: you know. I started watching one of sixty Parkers. I
Speaker 1: was recuperating from my gunshot wounds at my grandmother's house
Speaker 1: and uh lo and behold like after like sixty days,
Speaker 1: like I was ready, Like I was ready, So I
Speaker 1: started entering and I remember I went back to school
Speaker 1: and I tried to hoop at US three of those
Speaker 1: college but my ankle would you know, would give out
Speaker 1: and ship from my wounds. So I was like enter
Speaker 1: this little rap contests and I wanted a few of
Speaker 1: them ships at the at the college. And then Russell
Speaker 1: Simmons had um had this hip hop summit at UH
Speaker 1: at the college sum I mean not the college, c
Speaker 1: UM the convention Center in in l A. So I
Speaker 1: went to it. Saw Snoop Dog Snoop Dog Nigger in
Speaker 1: my life, I was nine nineteen. I've seen Snoop Dogg Nigger.
Speaker 1: Never seen Snoop Dog ever in real life. Ship was
Speaker 1: like crazy that I'm walking up on Snoop Dogg. And
Speaker 1: the nigga was like what's happening? Cup? And I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm game. He was like okay, he was like what
Speaker 1: you do? And I was like I was like I raped,
Speaker 1: and so he was like what's this something? Because I
Speaker 1: was like Ship. Then I was going in my mental
Speaker 1: roller decks and I got like hell of wraps, so um,
Speaker 1: you know, I come out there, I come out and
Speaker 1: I'm just like it's the game. Mr. Tinder Windows with
Speaker 1: your brain since young ing up and coming on, I
Speaker 1: did was cop Cane ain't trying to change the game.
Speaker 1: They got still cop Cane. I ain't moved out the hood.
Speaker 1: Still stay where the cops Cane. He was like, hi, nephew,
Speaker 1: you could go, cause he was like, good luck with
Speaker 1: your career. And I was like, oh, okay, So you
Speaker 1: don't just meet and gets on because that means he
Speaker 1: Snooper tell you. So Snoop mobbed off with like trade
Speaker 1: and Goldie logan. I was like, man, were they go
Speaker 1: Snoop in the East Siders? So then I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, cool, Snoop ain't sucking with it. And so
Speaker 1: I found a pack of niggas freeestaling. So I and
Speaker 1: over there spits some most ship. Well it was a
Speaker 1: nigger name uh fat Rat and uh this nigga named
Speaker 1: j T. Big j T the Bigger figure. They was
Speaker 1: over there and uh and I was spitting and then
Speaker 1: I was walking away. As I walked to my car,
Speaker 1: JT the Bigger Figure was like, hey, you're hard. He
Speaker 1: was like, I want to bring you to the Bay
Speaker 1: record a demo. So, um, you know we go to
Speaker 1: the Bay and uh, well no, he said I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have a flight for you back. Then again, man, nigga's
Speaker 1: selling what tickets all the time, so I'm like, yeah, whatever,
Speaker 1: I ain't never even been on the airplane, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So he had a flight, and I'm like, shouot.
Speaker 1: I told my brother name, I'm going to the Bay.
Speaker 1: So I went up to the Bay and I end
Speaker 1: up staying out there for a month recording my whole demo.
Speaker 1: And because I was so fresh to hip hop and
Speaker 1: in the recording process, when I wrote my wraps, I
Speaker 1: didn't know. I didn't know like wrap format, so I
Speaker 1: didn't know you had a sixteen bar verse or twelve
Speaker 1: bar verse and then you have an eight bar hook.
Speaker 1: I didn't know any of that. So all my ship
Speaker 1: was freestyles. But I'm from Compton, So when I was
Speaker 1: doing my uh, when I was recording them, niggas was
Speaker 1: thinking like I was on some New York freest that
Speaker 1: I just didn't know when to stop. So all my
Speaker 1: ship on my demo just sound like a bunch of freestyles.
Speaker 1: So that you know, that's how I end up getting
Speaker 1: signed because niggas is like, who is this nigga from
Speaker 1: Compton's freestyle and like you from New York and really
Speaker 1: I just didn't know soon for Matt, So nigga's niggas
Speaker 1: had to tell me like, all right, that's like five minutes,
Speaker 1: like you're good, because I would just keep rapping until
Speaker 1: I felt like it, you know, like I'm out of
Speaker 1: breath of something. So that ship ultimately end up getting
Speaker 1: me a deal with DRE and uh yeah, how was it?
Speaker 1: You can't just say gotta deal with how I want
Speaker 1: to hear? How that? So yeah, so basically I came
Speaker 1: back with my demo and um, I end up meeting uh,
Speaker 1: you know d you know d Mac. I end up
Speaker 1: in d Mac and Cato and they had some connections
Speaker 1: with you know, so with Puff. So I went around
Speaker 1: with Puff for a minute and this nigga Puff never
Speaker 1: let me get in the studio. All we did was party, nigga.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Nigga, I really want to be a rapper,
Speaker 1: nig Like we just partying. He was like here, here,
Speaker 1: here go another bottle of cheff. Hain't playboy, and you
Speaker 1: know some bitches over there and me and Mario wan Is,
Speaker 1: you know, traveling with Puff and and Loom back in
Speaker 1: the day, and I never got in the studio. So
Speaker 1: one day Puff came over the idea. He was like,
Speaker 1: after all this party and for a whole year, this
Speaker 1: nigga was, you know what Playboy, you should go see
Speaker 1: Dr Dre And I was like, I don't know how
Speaker 1: to do that. But d Mac was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I know somebody and then um uh, Mike Lynn, who
Speaker 1: was Dr Dre's homie, ended up coming to Cedar Block
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, like asking who was game. And
Speaker 1: the first time he came, we pulled guns out on
Speaker 1: him and because we didn't know, like nigga came on
Speaker 1: the block, somebody like I'm looking for a game Dr
Speaker 1: Drey Simmon, So we didn't believe him, so we pulled
Speaker 1: guns and run him off the block. Second time he
Speaker 1: came back and he was like, you know what Dre
Speaker 1: told me, come back and get the game. And you know,
Speaker 1: if I die over here, I gotta die, but come
Speaker 1: back with the game. So I told I told my
Speaker 1: brother body. He was like, well, let's go. So we
Speaker 1: went up to Aftermath and uh, when I walked in,
Speaker 1: um I had seen Snoop again. Yeah, yeah, be a dog.
Speaker 1: We shocked up him and Nate Dog was smoking in
Speaker 1: the kitchen. Uh you know, God rested. So Buster was there.
Speaker 1: I saw Eve that night. Rock Him was there actually
Speaker 1: rapping on the end of like right into the end
Speaker 1: of the the club beat Crazy. So it's like before fifty
Speaker 1: had in the club, Rock Him had in the club.
Speaker 1: And so when I walked in the opened the door,
Speaker 1: that ship was just like, you know, it was that
Speaker 1: moment because it's like Dr Dreyson right there and gang
Speaker 1: of itches all over the studio and women for the
Speaker 1: groups out there are gonna try to say cancel, you know,
Speaker 1: but yeah, gang women in the studio and Drey turned
Speaker 1: down the music and he was just like you game.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I just finished whipping up, cracking everything.
Speaker 1: My T shirt was, my neck was drunk and definitely
Speaker 1: was opposite of what Ray Young had on that one
Speaker 1: day when there. But I walked in and he was
Speaker 1: like welcome aftermath, and I was like, damn, yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel good. So I went out. I walked out and
Speaker 1: I freestyle with busting rhymes and that ship was like
Speaker 1: the one of the highlights of my career. And then
Speaker 1: after that it was on explain when you're getting on
Speaker 1: so what years this when you're getting on this is
Speaker 1: two thousand and two. What's the rap scene because you
Speaker 1: you went after Yeah, it ain't no rap scene. It's uh.
Speaker 1: I think Kanye just had a car accident and he
Speaker 1: was getting signed. I think I came in right when
Speaker 1: Kanye was like getting his Rocketfeller chain on it on
Speaker 1: the stage and Through the Wire. I think Through the
Speaker 1: Wire was just coming out. UM fifty had mixed tapes out,
Speaker 1: but the album wasn't done. Um the rap scene ship,
Speaker 1: it might have bet the hottest nigger might have been
Speaker 1: Nelly and Cheney no cat like, it might have just
Speaker 1: been them. I know Rick Ross was coming in Miami,
Speaker 1: but he was still young. Jeezy Jez was the Magic
Speaker 1: City and the strip clubs in the Atlanta getting his rotation.
Speaker 1: Because I was out there with d Mac and Big
Speaker 1: meach and and Baby Blue and all those niggers running
Speaker 1: around with bmf UM and so yeah, the the rap
Speaker 1: scene was real. Little Johnnish and little and and and
Speaker 1: Chingy Changy was And when I say Chaney nig don't
Speaker 1: even I'm not. I don't say that. I ain't even
Speaker 1: talking about the units. I'm talking what we are all
Speaker 1: doing for had bit ship Yo, Cheney Nigger. You see
Speaker 1: Chengy coming b. I remember being in the Beverly Center
Speaker 1: one time with Cheney Nigger. They was running chasing the
Speaker 1: nigga through them all like it was crazy chinky. So
Speaker 1: yeah man, so yeah man. The rapt scene as far
Speaker 1: as the West Coast, it wasn't nobody. It was Snoop
Speaker 1: and Dre, but there was iconic already at that moment,
Speaker 1: and so it was wide opened. So it hadn't been
Speaker 1: uh ship since really since Pok died, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It wasn't nobody like no freshman, so it
Speaker 1: was it was wide open for him. The documentary it's
Speaker 1: how did your life change? After that? I could remember
Speaker 1: I had a shootout in the hood with some uh
Speaker 1: with some with some Mexicans, um, and we had to
Speaker 1: shootouts on the same day as the documentary drop, which
Speaker 1: is crazy. So I went to my album release party
Speaker 1: with my windows shout out my Range Roverer crazy and
Speaker 1: you know it's crazy. B d Um B d Co
Speaker 1: signed for my first Range because I ain't no credit.
Speaker 1: BD went down to the Range Roller. He took me
Speaker 1: down to the Range Rover dealership and you know, I
Speaker 1: took the money and he put half with me and
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you deserve it. And then then and
Speaker 1: we left with two range Rovers. So yeah, and then
Speaker 1: I got the windows knocked out of mind and Beatty
Speaker 1: went back to doing what he do. But yeah, so
Speaker 1: I drove to Hollywood with no front window. Hello wind
Speaker 1: coming through the tor released party to the album released party,
Speaker 1: and Nigga drove up. Nigga thought I was crazy, but
Speaker 1: I was like, Nigga, this is my whip, Like I'm
Speaker 1: not getting back, I'm not getting out of this and
Speaker 1: getting into Monte Carlo. Nigga like this is range Rover.
Speaker 1: So I drove it like that I'm talking about. Nigga
Speaker 1: looked like one of the whole Max Hill uh take
Speaker 1: negative logo. Yeah, I can remember like still like being
Speaker 1: like the album was like went platinum and we're still
Speaker 1: on the block. Is it a competitive thing? Is it real? Beef?
Speaker 1: What is it? Because y'all had some great motherfucking music
Speaker 1: together and then you guys do some competitive type ship
Speaker 1: talking on the internet, Like where is that situation that
Speaker 1: fifty is? Like? Uh, fifty at one time used to
Speaker 1: be like this this real street, super street Nigga, Right,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know outside of you know, his his
Speaker 1: you know, the snitching allegations and all the paperwork that
Speaker 1: they got on him to say he told and all
Speaker 1: that ship, which is his business, and not mind Um,
Speaker 1: the nigga was a really hood nigga, you know. Um.
Speaker 1: And so I can't I can't not validate who I
Speaker 1: met and who he was because we you know, we
Speaker 1: had some times in the streets, um which ship got
Speaker 1: real when I was right there and see him do
Speaker 1: his thing. But um, as far as like now, I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously he's older and you know into the you know,
Speaker 1: uh you know in the TV and doing that star
Speaker 1: on Hollywood and all that, and I like all the
Speaker 1: TV shows. I think it's great. His his hip hop presence,
Speaker 1: he don't have none, not not in today's time. So
Speaker 1: it's like me and me and him. I think I'm
Speaker 1: the only negative he really, he really don't play with
Speaker 1: because when you you know, when when when it's me,
Speaker 1: it get, it gets for real and and it don't end.
Speaker 1: So he might say a little something, I might say
Speaker 1: a little something, he might go away. But other than that,
Speaker 1: like you know, fifty is like he like the like
Speaker 1: like a bully. You know what I'm saying, but at
Speaker 1: these at this like today, it's like a comedic bully,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because it ain't really gonna
Speaker 1: be too much actually, and it's more it's more so
Speaker 1: you know, jokes and memes and ship like that. But um,
Speaker 1: I think that he knows, he know where where I
Speaker 1: stand as far as like you know, holding myself now
Speaker 1: and he staying where he's staying. And like I said,
Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing, but you know, kudos to get
Speaker 1: him for everything on TV. But this rap ship like
Speaker 1: lead that alone? How important is the Easy to you everything?
Speaker 1: Easy was a person that I met one time, Um,
Speaker 1: not enough to say like we had a whole meeting.
Speaker 1: I was a kid and he was in Competon like
Speaker 1: handing out like turkeys and Christmas gifts. He was always
Speaker 1: there for that Easy. He was always there for the kids,
Speaker 1: the community and Compton, like he really wanted Compton to flourish.
Speaker 1: And so when I came in the game, like of course,
Speaker 1: like I grew up in the eighties, so in w
Speaker 1: A you know, was everything, uh you know for me
Speaker 1: and my siblings. So I always I'm always gonna go
Speaker 1: back to giving Easy everything he deserves. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is a man that took dope money and put a
Speaker 1: group together and that group end up being you know,
Speaker 1: one of the biggest uh you know, rap groups of
Speaker 1: all time, if not the biggest. UM And look who
Speaker 1: Easy was like the first Dr dre if we can
Speaker 1: say Dr dre put On like you know me and
Speaker 1: fifty and Eminem and Snoop and did all that like
Speaker 1: Easy put on the whole n w A. Not to
Speaker 1: take nothing away from Cube and nothing in his writing
Speaker 1: and what he did, but it was easy that Um
Speaker 1: really went and got the deals done and got really
Speaker 1: you know, made of something to doctor. Go back to
Speaker 1: the documentary for a second. My uh start my Life
Speaker 1: from scratch and the song with Faith that's the That's
Speaker 1: some songs that I jammed a lot of times and
Speaker 1: songs that probably I jam when I got it on
Speaker 1: my mind. You know what I'm saying. So salute to those, UM.
Speaker 1: I tell how Kobe personally thank you for making that album. Um.
Speaker 1: Kobe throughout his career UM with just he would he
Speaker 1: would either shoot me a text. And it's funny because
Speaker 1: having Kobe number in your phone and not abusing it
Speaker 1: was like you had to ask some real restraint because
Speaker 1: I had so many like niggas Kobe, like they wanted
Speaker 1: to talk to Kobe every day, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Even even if even if, like you know, you had
Speaker 1: obviously different mothers and fathers, like you still felt like
Speaker 1: he was a brother, you know, because any time he
Speaker 1: talked to him, he always had some game. And one
Speaker 1: thing that Kobe asked me, he was like, yo, when
Speaker 1: you're going like get on your business and step aside,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. From the from the streets,
Speaker 1: and I was just like never he was like ah
Speaker 1: see see and just you know, he'd be like, all right,
Speaker 1: I get with you. But um, one thing about Kobe
Speaker 1: and the documentary, every time I've seen him, every time
Speaker 1: we talked, he would just always tell me how much
Speaker 1: that album meant to him. But even more so then
Speaker 1: the documentary, it was the doctor's advocate for him. The
Speaker 1: doctor's advocate was the one. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He was just like, yo, like one blood and like
Speaker 1: I work out every day every morning, I'm up and
Speaker 1: I throw this on. And every time I came to
Speaker 1: the Staples Center to see Kobe, like he if he
Speaker 1: saw me. I don't know, I've never seen the nigga
Speaker 1: with the phone in his in the shorts. It was
Speaker 1: it was, yeah, it was, it would start, it would
Speaker 1: start running man. And so like, I still feel in
Speaker 1: debt it to Kobe just for his contribution to the city,
Speaker 1: for him never wavering from you know, like playing for
Speaker 1: the Lakers, never being traded, and never abandoned the ship,
Speaker 1: like just taking it in the last game. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I said that, Yo. I watched it. I watched his
Speaker 1: double team. It wasn't easy. I watched the get sixty
Speaker 1: on the way out, and it's like that, like when
Speaker 1: we talked about Kobe, I mean under these glasses. If
Speaker 1: I say that, say his name too much, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start crying because it's like you would never I would
Speaker 1: have You would have never thought in a million years
Speaker 1: that Kobe would me the untimely demiseed Sperhero. And let
Speaker 1: me tell you about that day, erie as fun as
Speaker 1: it was, I was leaving the recording studio and it
Speaker 1: was hella foggy, like I'm talking about on the on
Speaker 1: the ground level. It was foggy. I couldn't see and
Speaker 1: I was like, Nick, I got a damn there. Take
Speaker 1: the streets home. I can't get on the freeway. Just
Speaker 1: when I went up the ramp on on I mean
Speaker 1: on Barham and I got on the one on one
Speaker 1: and the ship was way too foggy, so I got
Speaker 1: off and then I took Ventura all the way home,
Speaker 1: and the whole time I was saying that I can't
Speaker 1: see I'm driving slower ship. And then um when I
Speaker 1: woke up phone crazy and I was like and niggas,
Speaker 1: niggas just hit me like, yo, you heard about Kobe.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking like Kobe, Like I know Kobe, right,
Speaker 1: but maybe it's like some other news. Definitely wasn't thinking
Speaker 1: like nah. And then when they told me like you know,
Speaker 1: his kids or his wife might have might have been
Speaker 1: with him, you know, the father, and the kicks in
Speaker 1: and I'm just started, I'm real visual started. I started
Speaker 1: thinking of last moments and I put myself there, if
Speaker 1: it was me, what would I tell my daughter? What
Speaker 1: would I tell my family? And that ship like to
Speaker 1: this day, bro to this day, like I drove by
Speaker 1: the crash site on the way here. I live in Calabaska,
Speaker 1: so I mean I can't if I'm going you know,
Speaker 1: down last virginesses. It's you know, it's what you gotta
Speaker 1: do to get you know, over here here to Sena
Speaker 1: Monica and that Kobe man. And she's still feeling real,
Speaker 1: probably to y'all too, probably to me. It's just like Kobe.
Speaker 1: But if anybody's legacy memory, if anybody is in the
Speaker 1: afterlife looking down or has a presence, that's the only
Speaker 1: it's really the only reason I believe that you know
Speaker 1: you should leave you know, valuable footprints is because of
Speaker 1: people like Kobe, like you could fill him. He everywhere.
Speaker 1: It's his city, man, and that's my brother, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I appreciate everything that he did for me
Speaker 1: the city of Los Angeles, and uh, you know, my
Speaker 1: my breasts gets short and and my eyes well up
Speaker 1: when um when when talking about him, everybody. After following
Speaker 1: out with g Unit and Interscope, you went to New
Speaker 1: York to uh create the Doctor's Advocate. Yeah, what was it?
Speaker 1: What was going on in your mind at that time?
Speaker 1: I hated everybody and everything that had anything to do
Speaker 1: with fifty, Interscope and Wrap. It was me time, and
Speaker 1: I just wanted my people that was riding with me
Speaker 1: and fucking with me to to ride with me, and
Speaker 1: everybody that I thought that was did except Dr dre
Speaker 1: Um and and again he had his reasons and and
Speaker 1: you know, to let you know, I thought like I
Speaker 1: thought hip hop was something totally different than what it was.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I thought like when niggas
Speaker 1: signed you that like it's a camaraderie and it's a
Speaker 1: brotherhood and it's like, uh, you know, bad boy, or
Speaker 1: it's like a rocket fell I had like when you're
Speaker 1: twenty five years old, you're not thinking paperwork, and you're
Speaker 1: not thinking business, and you're not thinking bold black print.
Speaker 1: You're just thinking like, I'm after math and we got
Speaker 1: these chains on and I'm g unit and we're supposed
Speaker 1: to be a family. But it wasn't like that. It
Speaker 1: was all business for them, and it should have been
Speaker 1: all business for me. I just had nobody to tell
Speaker 1: me years old if that was the way it went.
Speaker 1: If if I had known, I would have not been
Speaker 1: as violent as I was. I would have had an understanding, um,
Speaker 1: because that's one thing about me. When I get an
Speaker 1: understand about something, I'm good with it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Long as it's been communicated that this is
Speaker 1: how it is and I can't you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not mad. So um, yeah, doing the Doctor's Advocate.
Speaker 1: I went into the Sony studios to the bottom, the
Speaker 1: further studio I could get from, you know, the surface,
Speaker 1: and I sat in there for you know, three months,
Speaker 1: and I recorded this album and it's my most West
Speaker 1: Coast sounded album, but it was all recording in New York.
Speaker 1: Um and Naas came down there with me. Buster came
Speaker 1: down there with me, and they contributed to the album.
Speaker 1: Jamie Fox came in. He flew in from l A
Speaker 1: to New York on a private jet just to you know,
Speaker 1: be you know, be a part of the album because
Speaker 1: I asked them to Um and yeah, man that that
Speaker 1: album meant a lot to me because it was me
Speaker 1: showing the world that I could do it without Dre.
Speaker 1: Fifty was saying he was writing all my raps, which
Speaker 1: was crazy to me because like the here comes another
Speaker 1: you know album that went five times platinum and they're
Speaker 1: gettn't write nothing and they had no Dre beats um
Speaker 1: and so yeah, man, that album is the one that
Speaker 1: meant a lot to me. So again going you know,
Speaker 1: doubling back on the Kobe thing when he told me
Speaker 1: that that was the album that he funk with the
Speaker 1: most out of you know, the two that I had
Speaker 1: at the time. It meant a lot to me because
Speaker 1: I know what I put into it, I know what
Speaker 1: I sacrificed, and I know how hard it was to
Speaker 1: get it to see the light of the day because
Speaker 1: fifty had just went Diamond, and so to put out
Speaker 1: my album when I was disrespecting Jimmy, I been disrespected
Speaker 1: Interscope and disrespecting everybody except Dr dre Um at that moment,
Speaker 1: and for them to still put that album out, that
Speaker 1: means what I did in New York, like had Warrant
Speaker 1: and One Blood drove that album because niggas like fleg,
Speaker 1: dj K slig R, I p Um, like nigg is
Speaker 1: still behind me, DJ clue um uh everybody like Kid Capri,
Speaker 1: they always bumping One Blood And so that when I
Speaker 1: bought it, by the time I got back to it
Speaker 1: was on yeah, Nas buster legends. I was being spending
Speaker 1: that time with them. Nas. Hey, you get a you
Speaker 1: get a glass of red wine, man and and and
Speaker 1: a wine glass and you pour nas some opus one
Speaker 1: or some one of them expensive bottles that he liked
Speaker 1: to drink. Man, and you're gonna see Sincere from Belly.
Speaker 1: You're gonna see God's Son. You're gonna see Illmatic. You're
Speaker 1: gonna see not like it's it's it's crazy when you
Speaker 1: see Nas, that nigga just looked like the coolest nigga.
Speaker 1: And I don't care what room you walk into. It
Speaker 1: just he just he becomes the coolest nigga around when
Speaker 1: you see him. And so, UM, it always been that way.
Speaker 1: And so I've always been a big Nas fan. Um,
Speaker 1: one of my top three best rappers, most that most
Speaker 1: you know, motivated me to most of my career. Always
Speaker 1: show him love when I see him, seeing him with
Speaker 1: hit Boy, you know a few months back and you know,
Speaker 1: we gave each other kudos again. I thanked them again. Um.
Speaker 1: The album is half named Dramatic because of you know Nas, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because of that and his contribution to that, Um and
Speaker 1: buster busters like it ain't we like that. That's the
Speaker 1: only nigger that uh that I listened to literally to
Speaker 1: this day. Um, when he said and it might not
Speaker 1: be right then, but I when I get back in
Speaker 1: my car, I go sit by myself somewhere in the dark.
Speaker 1: It what he said starts. Uh. I started to recollect,
Speaker 1: you know, those memories of the conversation before, and it
Speaker 1: always resonates later on Buster called me borderline disrespectful. He
Speaker 1: always say that he go the line and you just
Speaker 1: run full speed up to it, and they didn't hit
Speaker 1: the breaks like this much. So yeah, he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: so you gotta you know that's bust man. But I
Speaker 1: love him to death. That is that is my absolute,
Speaker 1: absolute big brother. Uh, inside and outside of music. He'd
Speaker 1: been there to steer my career and I feel like, uh,
Speaker 1: and I never said this before on camera. I feel
Speaker 1: like if it wasn't for Buster, um, then me and
Speaker 1: fifty probably be Biggie and Pop in this hid crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he slowed you all down. H You mentioned that? Yeah, real,
Speaker 1: you said in your early career in you didn't know
Speaker 1: it was business. You later found out it was business.
Speaker 1: Broke Free created your own label, UH in two thousand
Speaker 1: twelve of the World. The thought process behind that, I sat,
Speaker 1: I sat in my home with UH, with myself and
Speaker 1: my glock, and I felt like I should I want
Speaker 1: to be off this label me myself and my clock. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I felt like I felt like I wanted to be
Speaker 1: off this label. I feel like I had a you know,
Speaker 1: like a nine album deal with some crazy shit and
Speaker 1: that's basically a whole career if you even make it
Speaker 1: to that for and I was like, I had one
Speaker 1: more album to put out. I think, uh that our
Speaker 1: old Interscope and uh So I went up to Interscope
Speaker 1: with this gun and uh I demanded to be let go. Um.
Speaker 1: I ain't brandish it in the lobby or you know,
Speaker 1: pull it out until I needed to. But I went
Speaker 1: up there and the you know, the heads that were
Speaker 1: in the room when I came in, they know, and
Speaker 1: I was let go. And uh I've been independent ever since.
Speaker 1: I made more money than I did being signed to
Speaker 1: Aftermath M and Interscope and Geffen after as an independent artist,
Speaker 1: and I ever had times ten. So yeah, man, independence,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's the way. Um. But you know,
Speaker 1: for people you know signing the major you know the
Speaker 1: album deals, you know with majors and ship I don't
Speaker 1: knocked them either, because you know they got the machine
Speaker 1: and it's easier when you let them do it. And
Speaker 1: you know, but at the end of the day, you
Speaker 1: want your masses and you want to if you really
Speaker 1: like to work, and you really like to put in
Speaker 1: the work, and you know, so that you can enjoy
Speaker 1: the Fusia labor and be ableestly, I did it by myself.
Speaker 1: If you want those people. The independence is the way question.
Speaker 1: Creating control and being independent is the same thing basically, right, Yeah. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: if you're big enough independent artists to begin with, and
Speaker 1: you go sign to a major, you can have your
Speaker 1: people implement um created control into your into your you know,
Speaker 1: your contract still be signed to a major and still
Speaker 1: signed to it later. Yeah, so it's like even though
Speaker 1: they're the major, you you know, you still call the shots.
Speaker 1: And that's what like, uh, let's say quality control or
Speaker 1: you know, like uh, you know a pe um, you know,
Speaker 1: the guys that run them labels like you know they
Speaker 1: like or a birdman like you ain't. Bird man might
Speaker 1: go put you know, something out through Universal, but he
Speaker 1: gonna have all to say. So so it's like that,
Speaker 1: but he asked you know that that catalog. What's your
Speaker 1: message to the new generation of rappers that continue you
Speaker 1: get caught up in the street life you didn't see
Speaker 1: in the first hand. You grew up in it, um,
Speaker 1: And like we all know experience as the best teaching.
Speaker 1: You know, we lost nil, we lost golf, you know,
Speaker 1: pop smoke, King Vaughan. You know, it's just we all
Speaker 1: know it's enough as enough. But as we all know too,
Speaker 1: we know how the streets are too right. So talk
Speaker 1: about that from him for the new generation, I would say, um, um,
Speaker 1: I don't know why with me, man, I only I
Speaker 1: can give. I give advice to my younger guys all
Speaker 1: the time. It's hard to stand on it when I'm
Speaker 1: still ten toes in it. It doesn't mean that I
Speaker 1: haven't been through what I've been through. Um, Like I
Speaker 1: got this one line and I and I and I
Speaker 1: gave nobody no bars on the album. But I say, um,
Speaker 1: you know I say on my own outro to my
Speaker 1: album Drillmatic, I said, you know this is nazis it will?
Speaker 1: And I say, the audacity of me at forty two
Speaker 1: years old is still drill because it's like and so
Speaker 1: the the psychology behind that is that at forty two
Speaker 1: years old, you should be, you should have you should
Speaker 1: be in a mindset to where the street life is
Speaker 1: in the past. But if he died, what two thousand nineteen,
Speaker 1: two thousand, nineteen, they killed you know, killed my partner
Speaker 1: right on crashawn S Lawson, where he's from. Thirty three
Speaker 1: years old though, and even though he was a bit
Speaker 1: removed from you know what, what you know what he
Speaker 1: came up as, which is being a rolling sixties cript,
Speaker 1: he still wasn't because he cared about the community. He
Speaker 1: cared about where he was from. So he had to
Speaker 1: go there and see his people where he wasn't home.
Speaker 1: And so him dying there, I mean it, you know
Speaker 1: it as untimely as it was and as tragic as
Speaker 1: it was, like that ship is a reality for us
Speaker 1: out here. And so me at forty two or at
Speaker 1: fifty or in sixty or seven years old, like I'm
Speaker 1: from l A. It's what it is. Nigga's been hating,
Speaker 1: Nigga's people been hating people. People still hate people. Look
Speaker 1: what's going on in the world. Look at Russia, look
Speaker 1: at Ukraine, Like what is that about? Like it can't
Speaker 1: be about anything other than hate. So for me to
Speaker 1: be forty two years old in the city that has
Speaker 1: killed Tupac, Biggie, Nipsey Pop, Smoked, slim Fold, Hunted Draco
Speaker 1: just got stabbed months ago. For me to look at
Speaker 1: my peers, these are all niggas that like, you know,
Speaker 1: either I grew up with I never met Poppet Big,
Speaker 1: but I grew up on their music. Um, Nipsey was
Speaker 1: my brother, you know what I'm saying that, Like he
Speaker 1: came out like I helped him. I helped usher him
Speaker 1: into hip hop along with him and everything he was
Speaker 1: doing with his hood and his brother and all that.
Speaker 1: Like I stopped on um you know, crenshawn Slawson took
Speaker 1: Nipsey demo and then brought him to the studio smoked
Speaker 1: and we did three songs like that and I was
Speaker 1: and then I took him at Kendrick on tour. So
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I helped usher this generation of
Speaker 1: West Coast hip hop into hip hop. So for me
Speaker 1: to see my brother die in real time. And that's
Speaker 1: the difference between Tupac and and and Nipsey is the
Speaker 1: reason that Nipsey ship hit a little bit harder is
Speaker 1: because Nigga there was no internet one. We only heard
Speaker 1: about it, right we saw Nipsey, that ship was on
Speaker 1: the Internet for us to see him his his soul,
Speaker 1: damn there leave his body that ship killed me to
Speaker 1: my core. It made me so angry that I'm still
Speaker 1: fucking angry. It made me so angry that I can't
Speaker 1: let niggas get one up on me. And I'm and
Speaker 1: I'm against the rapper, and I'm still in the streets.
Speaker 1: And as much as I Calabasas myself to death, and
Speaker 1: as far as far as I moved my kids to
Speaker 1: the valley, I'm around this city. I'm around this city,
Speaker 1: and so I gotta keep it on me because I
Speaker 1: don't trust nobody. I've seen nigga's dying in real time,
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry. I can't like I can't. I just can't.
Speaker 1: Let I can't give niggas my life, not in the
Speaker 1: city that has claimed so many of my peers, and
Speaker 1: I will not. Does it seem crazy to think that,
Speaker 1: oh to was my first year in the league forty two? Now?
Speaker 1: Does it crazy? Thing that you're o g in this gang? Now?
Speaker 1: Did you ever see this? Did you ever look far
Speaker 1: to be, to be perfectly honest, being a nigger from
Speaker 1: Compton and growing up you know, between Watson Compton hundred
Speaker 1: fifteenth and Womanton and Niggerson Gardens and then see the
Speaker 1: block and then you know, my youngest spending my younger
Speaker 1: days in Santana block crep and just being engulfed in
Speaker 1: gang culture. I never thought that I would even make
Speaker 1: it to see twenty one. And I tell people this
Speaker 1: all the time, like I say, you know, without sounding
Speaker 1: honoree or or really um really uneducated or just playing
Speaker 1: out dumb like I've been trying to die since nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy nine. Right because I'm out here, I speak my truth.
Speaker 1: I hear we Pete Newton and Bobby Stale myself in
Speaker 1: front of cameras. You know what I'm saying. I stand
Speaker 1: up for my people and then all of us. And
Speaker 1: then on the same accord, if I have to, I
Speaker 1: will kill my brother if he is posing threat on me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like I tell and
Speaker 1: I tell, I tell niggass on the album too. I
Speaker 1: walk people through this all the time because niggas, you know,
Speaker 1: they want to know, like, why are you still you know,
Speaker 1: talking about violence in your you know, in your in
Speaker 1: your in your music. Nign Do they stopped showing violence
Speaker 1: on Netflix? Do they shop some violent be you know,
Speaker 1: Nigga Rambo do the same thing I do. The only
Speaker 1: thing different between me and Syvestor to Loan and his
Speaker 1: nick I'm out here in the trenches. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and so my ship is real. So when
Speaker 1: y'all asked uh S investor Stallone to pick up the script,
Speaker 1: he's reading what somebody wrote for hi, nigga. I wrote that.
Speaker 1: I wrote this. You know what I'm saying, So I
Speaker 1: might here living. And so I tell niggas all the time,
Speaker 1: if I got to look in the mirror and shoot myself,
Speaker 1: I will. And what that means is, I don't wake
Speaker 1: up with no ill intention on no human being, black, white,
Speaker 1: no race. But since I don't know when, or early
Speaker 1: nineteen hundreds when everything was you know, set up, when
Speaker 1: they allowed you know, white people to um, you know
Speaker 1: about the Federal House and acting all that, when they
Speaker 1: allowed white people the body's houses and said as long
Speaker 1: as you know, white people buying and and no African
Speaker 1: Americans allowed to buy them, and you can't even rent
Speaker 1: or sell your kids kids can't even sell um their
Speaker 1: house to African Americans too. Now it's still in there.
Speaker 1: Of course they don't you know, they don't honor it
Speaker 1: no more because it would just be that it would
Speaker 1: be crazy to do that. And in this I like
Speaker 1: to call it this black moment, right, um, and who
Speaker 1: knows how long it's gonna last, but it's in there.
Speaker 1: So it goes all the way back then even further
Speaker 1: back to Willie Lynch letters and all that. You gotta
Speaker 1: do your history. Um. We don't have enough time hit
Speaker 1: for you know here for me to break it down,
Speaker 1: but it goes all the way this deep, deep rooted
Speaker 1: hate for a superior race. Obviously or at least physically,
Speaker 1: we know that, um. And not to shoot on nobody again,
Speaker 1: but I mean we are faster, taller, bigger and by nature,
Speaker 1: but we didn't do that. We need create ourselves. This
Speaker 1: is God, and never everybody praises God's God. Um, every
Speaker 1: race of some sort, whether you call them Allah or
Speaker 1: Jesus or God or whatever whatever it is that you
Speaker 1: pick from, whatever tree you pick from, like it's it's
Speaker 1: has to be one God. So you gotta say that
Speaker 1: we're all equal. And if we're all equal, right, if
Speaker 1: somebody is just a little bit better, you're a little
Speaker 1: bit faster, you would think that you want to clap
Speaker 1: and not hate. Where did we get this deep rooted
Speaker 1: hate from We can go down any street in America
Speaker 1: and we can find it, and we could bring it
Speaker 1: back to this day on four twenty, and we ain't
Speaker 1: even that high yet, So we know what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: And say that I have a reason to fear myself.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't lie on that one, that is true.
Speaker 1: I mean just to to still be getting death threats,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying from George Floyd? Ship that
Speaker 1: and you know I don't wake up to I wake
Speaker 1: up to draw my day and get high and make
Speaker 1: some money. That's all I think about. But then just
Speaker 1: look at my DM and fuck you, nigger, I hope
Speaker 1: you died. George Floyd was a crackhead, like damn that
Speaker 1: those still on that? And then and then you're still
Speaker 1: on that. Actually, I actually to go even deeper even
Speaker 1: you know, deeper than that. That's just from that, that's
Speaker 1: from the opposition. Now, how does it feel when you
Speaker 1: when you want to wear your chain? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying to the club, and then you just got
Speaker 1: a nigg over there who looking who might have watched
Speaker 1: Mike got your jersey, But tonight you just look like
Speaker 1: food for his family. That's that deep rooted hay that
Speaker 1: ship has been implemented in African American mindsets, especially of
Speaker 1: the black male, the black youth, the the the instruments
Speaker 1: and the institutions that have been structured to break us
Speaker 1: all the way to funk down. Says that I should
Speaker 1: put my clock on when I leave my house. It's
Speaker 1: not safe. It's not safe. And so at fifty two
Speaker 1: years old, if I'm rapping. At sixty two years old,
Speaker 1: if I'm rapping, I'd rather get pulled over and hand
Speaker 1: myself over then try to climb out the caskets. I've
Speaker 1: never seen it, dead man climbing a casket. What state
Speaker 1: do you think the West Coast hip hop is? Then? Like,
Speaker 1: is in any artists? We know you rock with Kenjy,
Speaker 1: But is it any young artists, a new artists that
Speaker 1: you rock with? Um? There is, yeah, there's it's there's
Speaker 1: a whole culture of of of young new hip hop
Speaker 1: artists out here. Um. I would say the one that
Speaker 1: that I listen to the most of these days probably
Speaker 1: Baby Came. I like Baby Came. I like Baby Came
Speaker 1: a lot. Um Um. He also cousins with Kendrick. Kendrick
Speaker 1: got a new album coming out. Um, I rock with reason. Um,
Speaker 1: he hardest fucked um there is. Uh yeah, no, they
Speaker 1: got it. They got a lot of cash. Man, Like
Speaker 1: I would just do myself, uh and do them and
Speaker 1: injustice if I just try ran through some names and
Speaker 1: didn't run through. They know who we are man, and
Speaker 1: they are here going crazy. The Baby Stone Gorillas is crazy.
Speaker 1: That Yeah, get on them. They early too. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a good time to catch them. Um
Speaker 1: t d um comptons is you know, on the rise again.
Speaker 1: Yeah's a lot of dope West Coast hip hop artists
Speaker 1: out here. Shout out to Tyler. A lot of people
Speaker 1: don't even know he from the trenches. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um, everything he did was just winning. You
Speaker 1: know his Grammy and all that. That's was dope. Um.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, me, I'm still here working a lot
Speaker 1: with Kanye of late. What's that experience? But like, what
Speaker 1: are some stuff you learned? What? How was that energy
Speaker 1: envirobe between your two Yeah Kanye? Uh, since me and
Speaker 1: Kanye had his freestyle battle, Uh, was you at the
Speaker 1: Nike Town party? Yeah? So yeah, and I feel like
Speaker 1: you was there Me and you had this freestyle battle
Speaker 1: outside of this, uh this Nike town on wil shirt
Speaker 1: back in the day, it was a fly party. Everybody
Speaker 1: was there. Chang He was there, but Changy was there,
Speaker 1: Nellie was there, and like these the niggers, like these
Speaker 1: the niggas with the most money, most change, most bitches.
Speaker 1: So yeah, me and yeah, we we end up freestyle
Speaker 1: and outside of it and and you know, yeah, because
Speaker 1: it's punchlines. The chicks was like, I was my ship
Speaker 1: was all gangster, you know what I'm saying. But I
Speaker 1: was going. But you had the punchlines and he had
Speaker 1: the women, and so he beat me that night. And
Speaker 1: uh but so every since then, man, me and you,
Speaker 1: we've been locked in. I can remember getting my first
Speaker 1: beat CD with just k Dot west on. It had
Speaker 1: like twelve beats on it. One of them was Dreams,
Speaker 1: and uh we threw you know, Dreams end up being
Speaker 1: one of my biggest records. But from there the second
Speaker 1: album yet again, yea, he was with me on the
Speaker 1: second album. You know what I'm saying. He was. He
Speaker 1: gave me Wouldn't Get Far, and we did it that night.
Speaker 1: As soon as I heard the beat, I was like,
Speaker 1: wouldn't get far? These wrap stars. You know, you all
Speaker 1: put your hands up, lady, but uh, and then you
Speaker 1: did this verse and then we had, you know, another smash.
Speaker 1: But I've been my brother, um throughout hip hop. We
Speaker 1: had sometimes when he called me and he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know, can you please stop talking about my wife?
Speaker 1: And I was like, you got that, and so I
Speaker 1: stopped until I started again. And then and then you know,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't talk to me for a while, and then
Speaker 1: and then and then and you know, we're getting the
Speaker 1: studio and he always he always joked around, you know,
Speaker 1: like on the contrary with what people might think, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: is uh you know, he's a comedian too, man, so
Speaker 1: he'd be shooting me shots um sometimes and I'll be young,
Speaker 1: he made me uncomfortable in the studios. I'll be like
Speaker 1: like why you know I'm saying, well, we gotta go there. Um,
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, yeah, it's uh. That's my brother. Always
Speaker 1: got his back and you know a lot of people,
Speaker 1: I've been catching a lot of flags for saying, um,
Speaker 1: he did for more for me in my career in
Speaker 1: the last two weeks than Dre did my whole career.
Speaker 1: One thing Dre did was signed me right, But Dre
Speaker 1: signed the hottest nigger in Compton. It didn't matter who
Speaker 1: was gonna sign me. I was gonna be the next nigger.
Speaker 1: So um, as far as Drey and Jimmy Irvin signing
Speaker 1: me to after Mafia Interscope, they also did themselves a
Speaker 1: favorite because they had picked up where Tupac left off
Speaker 1: in signing me because I was gonna be the next nigger.
Speaker 1: So it's like as much as Dre did for me
Speaker 1: and signing me, I did for him and bridging the
Speaker 1: gap for the West Coast. I mean, you have fifty
Speaker 1: and m but you didn't have nothing on the West Coast.
Speaker 1: You know what Independent went through, no limit and you
Speaker 1: know all that. So it's like as much as Drey
Speaker 1: did for me, um, I did for him. UM. And
Speaker 1: he'll tell you that if if we if we're being honest, UM.
Speaker 1: And so when I say that you did for me,
Speaker 1: you know more for me in those last two weeks
Speaker 1: than Dre did my whole career. It's like the conversations
Speaker 1: I had with you, the billionaire mindset that he put
Speaker 1: me in, the rooms that I walked in, I've never
Speaker 1: Dre has never put me in those rooms. So it
Speaker 1: wasn't to say that Drey wasn't shift. He never did
Speaker 1: shipped for me. I'm saying that my mindset and what
Speaker 1: I know now my financial literacy just from being around
Speaker 1: this man is more than I could ever repay him.
Speaker 1: And it is absolutely more than Drey has done for
Speaker 1: me in my career, because I can remember being signed,
Speaker 1: the aftermath and being damn there broke. Not saying that
Speaker 1: with Drey's fault. But Niggas wasn't Puttingniggas on in no money,
Speaker 1: Like I wasn't part of the Drey the Beats Headphones deal,
Speaker 1: but I was in the room when Niggas was creating it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So, and I'm not saying
Speaker 1: Niggas owe me nothing like you don't. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't wake up feeling like you owe me this and
Speaker 1: you owe me that. It's like the super bowsh it.
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like like Niggas owed me, you know,
Speaker 1: like I didn't feel like Nigga's owed me a call
Speaker 1: and put me on. I just felt like it's weird
Speaker 1: that I'm not there and the ship is in the
Speaker 1: so Far Stadium and it's West Coast and it's like
Speaker 1: I felt like niggas should have, but I don't feel
Speaker 1: like they owed me that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So you've been uh talking recently about uh a versus
Speaker 1: or just a battle with him. Yeah, um again, and
Speaker 1: I and I hate to break it down like this,
Speaker 1: but I have to because it's gonna make the most
Speaker 1: sense to everybody. It's like, it's like when I just
Speaker 1: walked you all down Memory Lane with how um, how
Speaker 1: the housing authority like regulated so that you know, African
Speaker 1: Americans or Niggers wouldn't ever be able to own nothing.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't that black people couldn't afford nine thousand
Speaker 1: dollars and ten thousand dollar homes these homes back and
Speaker 1: that they cost ten thousand dollars, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And there was a lot of you know, working class
Speaker 1: black people that could afford it. They just was it
Speaker 1: was causes where they wasn't allowed to be in there.
Speaker 1: So we see where black people are now, right, um,
Speaker 1: And so they we've been in the pits of hell
Speaker 1: as far as like our financial literacy and our and
Speaker 1: just our financial status because niggas put weights on our
Speaker 1: shoulders and held us now well, they did the same
Speaker 1: thing to us with Eminem, right, because I'm not saying
Speaker 1: Eminem is not a skilled rapper, right, but there are
Speaker 1: men of goats out there. There are niggas out there
Speaker 1: that are maybe better than Kobe and Michael Jordan will
Speaker 1: never make it to the NBA. And so I'm saying
Speaker 1: that Eminem is a and as outstanding lyricists right now,
Speaker 1: you put him with Dr Dre who is from n
Speaker 1: w A which you know easy helped create what ice
Speaker 1: cube and on them. And now Eminem has a stamp.
Speaker 1: You put him under a machine, right, Interscope, one of
Speaker 1: the biggest in Universal, which one which is one of
Speaker 1: the biggest um hip hop conglomerates as far as like
Speaker 1: when they put money behind something, it's gonna move. So
Speaker 1: they could damn there, take this white guy right here
Speaker 1: behind the camera and tell him that this is who
Speaker 1: is next. And with the writers and with everything that
Speaker 1: Dre has an Interscope has under that building, nigas can
Speaker 1: make him a superstar or you or you could have
Speaker 1: been a wrap superstar coming under Dr Dre and Interscope.
Speaker 1: So I'm saying that we were told that Eminem was
Speaker 1: the greatest, Oh and by the way, he was white
Speaker 1: and I had that played a you know, a huge
Speaker 1: part in his success. Because if you can get white America,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, you are super solid
Speaker 1: as far as like album sales are concerned. And then
Speaker 1: who is he with? He's with Dr Dre. Soon then
Speaker 1: we got niggas too, So then it's that much bigger
Speaker 1: than the interscope puts the money behind it. You put
Speaker 1: the money behind a fucking pal of ship and you
Speaker 1: put ship on TV every day. It's only gonna be
Speaker 1: a certain time before people be like, yeah, we gotta see,
Speaker 1: we gotta go smell that. I'm yo, I'm not so
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So they can literally, they can literally
Speaker 1: take a nigger who is just skilled, don't put nothing
Speaker 1: behind him, and that nigger will never see the light
Speaker 1: of day of the label. Does that mean Eminem's better
Speaker 1: than that guy? Know? It just means that he wasn't chosen.
Speaker 1: So when I say that, you know, I want to
Speaker 1: wrap battle with Eminem or Eminem is not the rateist
Speaker 1: rapper or I'm better than him? It is you on
Speaker 1: Draft night, nigga, who did you think that Matt Barnes
Speaker 1: is better than you on draft NW you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And again no, and not know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like what what you got drafted? What at the second round?
Speaker 1: But your household names? Now, you can't tell me that
Speaker 1: what second round? If you was what what thirty pick
Speaker 1: or forty pick or something like that, that that you
Speaker 1: thought that thirty nine niggers is better than you're On
Speaker 1: draft night, you waited till your name was called, but
Speaker 1: you did. You've seen how many niggers you seeing it up?
Speaker 1: You'd be like, nigga killed that nigga at someone so
Speaker 1: or I will kill him? And is that not not
Speaker 1: the mindset you're supposed to have as a warrior, as
Speaker 1: a competitor. So again, start trying to make it sing,
Speaker 1: like when I see Eminem, I'm a drown Is nigg
Speaker 1: gonna beat this nigga up? I'm supposed to number one.
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to think that I'm better than every single
Speaker 1: rapper else why would I do this ship at all? Well,
Speaker 1: this is the only point I made because I listened
Speaker 1: to Eminem too. But I'll tell us that people ain't
Speaker 1: nobody in our neighborhoods riding around listening to Eminem and
Speaker 1: their car. That's all I'm saying, Like we ride to you,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But Eminem like we know
Speaker 1: its songs and renegating on it, but we not riding
Speaker 1: around Fodem just doing that and we're just not doing that.
Speaker 1: I and I'll take it away from you. When have
Speaker 1: you ever heard Eminem song in the club? When have
Speaker 1: you ever heard the ship in the locker room when
Speaker 1: they just like, yo, it's the new m I'm about
Speaker 1: to go crazy when they do the tip off nigger,
Speaker 1: so again, so again, so again. It must happen when
Speaker 1: they get just training for the Olympics or or some ship,
Speaker 1: or when when white boys are surfing dude, or doing
Speaker 1: what the fun they're doing, Because I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: and I'm not taking away from it. I don't hear
Speaker 1: Eminem in the streets. I just don't. And so again
Speaker 1: it's like it's it's not saying that he can't wrap
Speaker 1: the skill set is there. I'm just a better rapper.
Speaker 1: I just haven't been given the light that he's been given.
Speaker 1: They didn't put the money behind me that they did.
Speaker 1: They put some. But as soon as I as soon
Speaker 1: as I showed my ass and showed I was a
Speaker 1: little too black for what they expected. Well the budget stopped.
Speaker 1: I could have been pushed to eminem heights. Fifty got
Speaker 1: pushed to those heights because he played nice and Eminem
Speaker 1: and him or like this, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They just don't even know that m wouldn't even do
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl unless fifty was on it. A fifty way.
Speaker 1: Draine put fifty on the on the super Bowl and
Speaker 1: then then when't showed up, So again that's their camaraderie.
Speaker 1: So they put the money behind the niggas who played nice.
Speaker 1: When the niggas told me, you know a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't notice, like fifty and UH and Jimmy RV.
Speaker 1: And they gave me a million dollars to UH to
Speaker 1: stop saying gu not. They wrote me a check. They
Speaker 1: bought it, bought to try, had the trademark to G nine.
Speaker 1: And you remember when I was going around with the
Speaker 1: rat and doing all that ship that ship hurt killed
Speaker 1: G Unit. You stopped seeing the candies, the candy cane
Speaker 1: tank tops and all that ship, all the the whole
Speaker 1: G Unit mark echo artist, the shoes, all that ship died.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying that ship was a hot commodity
Speaker 1: at once. U and the cloth, the niggas wearing, the sweats,
Speaker 1: the headbands, the man everything. That ship died, bro. And
Speaker 1: then so they had to pay me. I should have
Speaker 1: asked for more, but the Nis gave me a million.
Speaker 1: But then I'm a hood niggers. I'm like a a
Speaker 1: million dollars just to stop seeing that this word with
Speaker 1: the check. They wrote the check and I stopped saying it.
Speaker 1: So again they suppressed the movement, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And so I had to, you know, fall over here.
Speaker 1: And after a while, like they stopped giving me the budget.
Speaker 1: So as you started seeing, like my record sales started declining,
Speaker 1: it wasn't that I wasn't still the same rapper I was.
Speaker 1: It was that they wasn't putting my shirt on TV
Speaker 1: and pushing pushing in the radio like they used to
Speaker 1: like they was doing because I was honorary and I
Speaker 1: was too disrespectful, borderline disrespectful. So Buster would have it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, if you don't play nice in these buildings, nigga,
Speaker 1: you know what it is you are. Your career is
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King on the balcony. M hm, and they
Speaker 1: will kill your career in front of your homies, and
Speaker 1: Jesse Jackson will be left to tell the story. You know,
Speaker 1: I know, I know what did help him in the
Speaker 1: hood though when he had Jay Backpeling on that renegade,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that it was tough. Yeah, on that rennegade.
Speaker 1: I give him that one. Yeah, but see it's a
Speaker 1: it's a it's a story behind the whole you know,
Speaker 1: the whole Renegade and all that. Like if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: that was Royce the five nine record, and uh and
Speaker 1: M like uh in ja like J had it. And
Speaker 1: then M was like like again, this is like my like,
Speaker 1: don't quote me on this, but like J like didn't
Speaker 1: get a real chance to like go at him him
Speaker 1: might have had the last verse and the whole verse
Speaker 1: might have already been on it or something like that.
Speaker 1: But it was Race the five nine song. Like I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like I told you earlier that in the club along
Speaker 1: the rock him first, like rock him on the in
Speaker 1: the club beat he was like rock him was like
Speaker 1: fucking with the you know that, you know, rock him
Speaker 1: is rock him. So again, man, it's a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of stories and a lot of other moving
Speaker 1: pieces behind what the headline. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like niggas will see this interview, and of course they'll
Speaker 1: or any interview that I've done, they'll say, oh, Games
Speaker 1: says he's a better rapper than Eminem. I said that,
Speaker 1: but I also gave him his flowers and said that
Speaker 1: he's a pretty good lyricist. He just better than me.
Speaker 1: And if he is better than than me, I want
Speaker 1: to see. Yeah, a lot of people that's in the
Speaker 1: top seventy five we talked about all times, and I
Speaker 1: got better numbers. Then we ain't gonna go there. We
Speaker 1: ain't gonna go there. Hey, when it's all said and done,
Speaker 1: Kyrie wasn't in the top seven. Howard Jamison has k
Speaker 1: points in boys right and he not in there. But again, man,
Speaker 1: it's politics. When it's all said and done, we want
Speaker 1: your legacy to be ship. I want my legacy to
Speaker 1: be that. Then I stood, I stood on what I on,
Speaker 1: what I was. And if I mean, if it happens
Speaker 1: like Nip, if it happens to me like Nip, or
Speaker 1: it happens to me like um, you know, like Dr
Speaker 1: Marl Luther King and Malcolm X. Like the one thing
Speaker 1: I'm not scared of his death, right, How can you
Speaker 1: be scared of something that is the inevitable? There is
Speaker 1: no person in this room that will not meet that right.
Speaker 1: So it's like you can't scare me with what's coming.
Speaker 1: It's for show coming, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's like you can't scare me with that. So, Um,
Speaker 1: I want to go out or I want to be
Speaker 1: remembered that somebody that stood on everything that they was
Speaker 1: and that is a father. Um black, I'm blacker than
Speaker 1: the sony camera I'm looking into Like, I'm black, unapologetically black,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be heard. I will not be silence.
Speaker 1: And um, if you got a problem with it, I
Speaker 1: guess you gotta do what y'all gotta do. Maybe walk
Speaker 1: past an airport the need or something. But yeah, like
Speaker 1: I'm here unapologetically I'm praying. I'm praying that a lot
Speaker 1: of that's your last days will be in the bed
Speaker 1: at home, right next to your kids. That's what I
Speaker 1: want for you can't wait. Quick hitters wanted Dawn. First
Speaker 1: thing to come to mind. If you could be remembered
Speaker 1: by one bar a lyric in your career. What would
Speaker 1: it be? It would be um, ha ha, I got
Speaker 1: some ship on my chest. I must confessed last night
Speaker 1: I was the negative shut up your projects. Now I'm
Speaker 1: back in the hood with rocks and the Tan Khakis
Speaker 1: and the Nike EDGs with checks. Don't give me started.
Speaker 1: I was forced to live this life, forced to bust
Speaker 1: my chrome. My pops left me in the Forster home.
Speaker 1: I felt abandoned like quick now that Mossburg, I don't
Speaker 1: happen the assets with the Mossburg. That's it feel that.
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Speaker 1: and you're in it. So U plus four from l A,
Speaker 1: whether they went pro or not, I'm gonna take six. Man. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna definitely due. I'm gonna do Kenny Bruner and
Speaker 1: and bed in the backcourt bullies two bullets, yess, I'll
Speaker 1: put Ray Young at the three. I'm gonna go Charles
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Speaker 1: still thinking nice, He's still thinking ask why you be
Speaker 1: cussing everybody out every time you make a shot? Bro?
Speaker 1: Your terms like the black hoop in Yosemite Sand, Think
Speaker 1: about it, Think about that every shot east side east side? Bro,
Speaker 1: what do you do to you? They know they know
Speaker 1: top five l A. M C's of all time. Um,
Speaker 1: definitely in any order, any order, UM m c's I
Speaker 1: would go because I know the different between rappers and mcs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would go ice Cube, um Kendrick myself. This is
Speaker 1: in no order. Um damn That four and five get
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Speaker 1: have been in any order. I'm gonna have to go
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Speaker 1: the nigga domino is always brain especially especially when they
Speaker 1: first when they first see a lot of people don't
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Speaker 1: dinner the whole last question, if you could pick one
Speaker 1: guest that you want to see on All the Smoke,
Speaker 1: who would it be? But before you answer, but you
Speaker 1: have to help us, help us get your answer on
Speaker 1: the show. All right, So it's uh, let me see. Yeah, damn,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Help Get him on here. Yo. You
Speaker 1: said you can't help us. You got sin somebody you
Speaker 1: can help us. I mean, well, look this this interview
Speaker 1: would help. I told him come outside, man, it's signed
Speaker 1: a rap. Yeah yeah, yeah, get him on here. Man,
Speaker 1: y'all can do it. I would love you to come
Speaker 1: the show. You Yeah, she'll be up. Come on down
Speaker 1: bro with you. You did you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: That was your call out? Yeah? I asked you Regina
Speaker 1: hard of comes and I was at to Regina Hall.
Speaker 1: It would be different. They want some passion into it, Okay,
Speaker 1: I feel you. Oh man, we appreciate your time about
Speaker 1: that's our dog man. Yeah, my bad. Can't let them
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