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Speaker 2: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

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Speaker 5: Ma'am Well and Steve just you know. That is why

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Speaker 7: This is their best weapon. There's a one to one

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Speaker 7: almost between where people stand on abortion and how they vote.

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Speaker 4: Meghan, your thoughts, Yeah, I say, if you can make

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Speaker 4: evangelicals who you know when we met a weeks ago, Steve,

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Speaker 4: that was my description that I have seen others use,

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Speaker 4: that they are the lone bulwark. That is true when

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Speaker 4: you look at all of this polling on any of

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Speaker 4: these left wing priorities, you know, things like ensuring abortion

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Speaker 4: up to birth, like ensuring you know, these onerous authoritarian

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Speaker 4: climate change policies, amnesty. The only thing standing in the

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Speaker 4: way of them in almost every case is that evangelical vote.

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Speaker 5: So you know, it's not surprising that they're going after them.

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Speaker 5: That it has been effective.

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Speaker 4: And I can give you a really specific example that

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Speaker 4: just popped into my mind as I was standing as

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Speaker 4: I was sitting here watching President Trump standing there and

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Speaker 4: thinking how close we came to him not being in

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Speaker 4: the Oval office this term. And one of the things

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Speaker 4: that was done was something called the After Party. For example,

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Speaker 4: that was a political Bible study that was funded by

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Speaker 4: the Rockefeller Foundation and the Hewlett Foundation, which is one

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Speaker 4: of the largest funders of abortion in the world. They

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Speaker 4: funded the Political Bible Study by David French New York

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Speaker 4: Times columnists, by again Russell Moore and by a Democrat.

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Speaker 2: De let's refer to him. Let's refer to him as

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Speaker 2: President David French, since I guess.

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Speaker 4: You on. So they created this political Bible study called

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Speaker 4: the After Party, and their pitch to pastors was literally, hey, listen,

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Speaker 4: we're going into an election season. So they released this

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Speaker 4: back in August prior to so in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 4: heading into an election year, they released it and they

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Speaker 4: told pastors, listen, it's really awkward for you to talk

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Speaker 4: to your people about politics.

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Speaker 5: We get that.

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Speaker 4: So you don't have to just bring in our curriculum,

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Speaker 4: our secretly left wing funded curriculum, into your church, and

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Speaker 4: we will disciple your pastors on politics. We will discipher

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Speaker 4: your people on politics. And so the content of this

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Speaker 4: Bible study was essentially telling Christians that we don't know

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Speaker 4: how to vote when it comes to a It's very confusing.

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Speaker 5: It's a complex issue.

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Speaker 4: If anybody tells you how you should vote when it

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Speaker 4: comes to abortion, you should run from that person, because

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Speaker 4: of course that's the issue that keeps conservatives and evangelicals

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Speaker 4: voting with Republicans. Well, at that point, they then turn

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Speaker 4: in a later episode and say, but as a Christian,

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Speaker 4: you are obligated to use your vote to ensure that

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Speaker 4: racial alleged racial injustice is addressed throughout the country. So,

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Speaker 4: I mean, even though they said this is a nonpartisan

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Speaker 4: Bible study, they made it very clear what its purpose was.

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Speaker 4: Don't vote when it comes to abortion, but do vote

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Speaker 4: to end racial justice, injustice. So that made it pretty

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Speaker 4: clear what they were trying to accomplish with this left

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Speaker 4: wing funded Bible study. And that kind of thing has

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Speaker 4: been taking place all over the evangelical landscape. And so

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Speaker 4: David French, Russell Moore, Curtis Chang, the creators of this

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Speaker 4: Bible study. They are welcomed to the seminaries. They are

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Speaker 4: welcome to Christian Lipscombe University to be visiting profess, to

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Speaker 4: have a chair. They're welcome to Wheaton College, which is

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Speaker 4: Evangelical Christian. They're welcome to Baylor, They're welcome to Biola.

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Speaker 4: So all of these things are being brought in and yes,

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Speaker 4: I would say it does have a trickle down effect,

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Speaker 4: but it has first impacted that pastoral class.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, I want to go where we got you?

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Speaker 2: Is the situation with Israel, because today has got to

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Speaker 2: be a wake up call. I mean, the Saudis are

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Speaker 2: not going to sign the Abraham Accord. It looks like

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Speaker 2: they may get a weapons, they will may get other

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Speaker 2: economic deals. They're open to it, but they're playing hardball.

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Speaker 2: Then unless you have a guaranteed to a Palestinian say

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Speaker 2: two say solution, what you're pulling on evangelicals and Israel.

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Speaker 7: Well, we don't have the breakdown by evangelicals, but if

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Speaker 7: you talk to people who know this more than me,

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Speaker 7: Evangelical Christians were kind of like one of the vectors

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Speaker 7: of this very Zionist marriage of Evangelical Christianity, and it's

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Speaker 7: one of the basis of support that they've had. But

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Speaker 7: when the Fourth Turning happens, what happens is everybody completely realigns.

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Speaker 7: Numbers changed drastically, and we're seeing that. This is why

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Speaker 7: I started screaming about the Fourth Turning was the way

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Speaker 7: the numbers on Israel changed. First off, after October seventh,

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Speaker 7: Israel had the biggest numbers it's ever had almost sixty

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Speaker 7: percent support versus less than twenty percent against Palestinian But

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Speaker 7: if you look back in our polling all the way

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Speaker 7: going back to two thousand and seven, Israel had very

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Speaker 7: high favorability numbers. But the most important thing was that

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Speaker 7: there was no difference between the young people and the

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Speaker 7: old people. People across the age spectrum had no difference

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Speaker 7: in opinion about Israel. Well, all of a sudden that

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Speaker 7: changed really freaking big. Just a couple of months ago,

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Speaker 7: when we asked our tracking question who do you support

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Speaker 7: more Israel or Palestine? And with the people under thirty,

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Speaker 7: it's Palestine. Now Israel's only twenty one percent, but with

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Speaker 7: people over sixty five, it's fifty nine percent Israel. And

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Speaker 7: so what you're seeing is that people are now basically

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Speaker 7: sorting into two different mindsets, and it's because they're consuming

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Speaker 7: news different and they're rebelling against traditional older fourth turning values.

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Speaker 2: Rabbi Wilucky is going to join us in studio today

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Speaker 2: at five to discuss this in the Sody Gravey trip.

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Speaker 2: Also very honored to have Yakov kats is going to

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Speaker 2: spend the entire hour with me at six o'clock and

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Speaker 2: we're going to do the part two of While Israel Slept.

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Speaker 2: We did the intelligence failure a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: We're going to do the Idea in Gaza. Megan about

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Speaker 2: that polling, what are your thoughts about where the Christian's

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Speaker 2: overall and evangelical stand on the topic of Israel.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you're definitely seeing an extremely uncomfortable fight.

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Speaker 4: I would say that what's been reflected in the larger

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Speaker 4: conservative movement is happening in a microcosm among evangelicals. So,

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Speaker 4: as Mitchell was saying, there, we are seeing younger evangelicals

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Speaker 4: moving away from this idea that the Jews are God's

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Speaker 4: chosen people.

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Speaker 5: So you do have theology playing into this a lot.

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Speaker 4: You have an older generation that believes in something called dispensationalism,

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Speaker 4: which is that.

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Speaker 5: Very roughly, I'm not a theologian, but.

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Speaker 4: Essentially that God's promises to Israel hold and that they

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Speaker 4: will be able to come into the Kingdom via some

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Speaker 4: later provision that we don't yet know what that will be.

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Speaker 4: And then what we have are those who believe that

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Speaker 4: Israel is not God's chosen people, but that the Church

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Speaker 4: now represents what Israel was in the Old Testament. So

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Speaker 4: those promises that were to go to Israel in the

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Speaker 4: Old Testament have now been absorbed by the Church. Those

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Speaker 4: are now put onto the Church to their credit. So

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Speaker 4: you know, it's a very dicey theological argument that's happening,

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Speaker 4: and you see it in a very strong split between

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Speaker 4: older and younger evangelicals. I do have some direct pulling

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Speaker 4: on evangelicals that comes out of LifeWay, and they're finding

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Speaker 4: that while fifty percent of all evangelicals do believe that

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Speaker 4: Jews are God's chosen people. Only twenty nine percent of

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Speaker 4: respondents of evangelicals under thirty five believe that.

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Speaker 5: So that's a pretty strong split, I think.

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Speaker 2: And continue to see. Still full stop, that's a bombshell.

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Speaker 2: Hit me give that again because I double that last

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Speaker 2: pulling again, don't bury the lead? What right?

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Speaker 4: So the lead is that forty nine percent of all

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Speaker 4: evangelicals say that they believe that the Jews are God's

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Speaker 4: chosen people.

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Speaker 5: But only thirty five.

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Speaker 4: Only twenty nine percent of those under thirty five believe that,

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Speaker 4: So that is a really strong generational split, and maybe

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Speaker 4: another headline for that reason. I do think you're seeing

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Speaker 4: Israel getting concerned about shoring up that evangelical support, because

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Speaker 4: we also saw stories in the last week about Israel's

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Speaker 4: foreign ministry planning to spend a few million dollars in

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Speaker 4: promotional and pr materials for evangelical general.

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Speaker 2: Try buddy story, Buddy, Brad Perscal. I think I think

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Speaker 2: Brand and the guys A Salem registered as foreign agents.

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Speaker 2: I think they're up front of breath right before I

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Speaker 2: let you go, Megan, is that also coming out of

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Speaker 2: when you go to the seminaries? Right now? If you

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Speaker 2: walked in for the faculty, and the debate among the

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Speaker 2: students is that breaked. Is this because it's coming out

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Speaker 2: of the seminaries or is this driven by the Tucker

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Speaker 2: Carlson's and Meghan Kelly's the way we talk here in

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Speaker 2: the worm is that coming Is it coming from a

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Speaker 2: secular source or is that now one of these issues

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Speaker 2: that are bubbling up in these seminaries and then that's

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Speaker 2: promulgated out to the flocks in these megachurches.

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Speaker 4: Ma'am no, I would say this is a reverse situation.

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Speaker 4: So what you have in the seminaries and the seminary

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Speaker 4: leadership is still that very strong support for Israel. You

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Speaker 4: do still have some of that dispensationalist theology. And the

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Speaker 4: split is that, I would say, the students are the

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Speaker 4: ones who are questioning this. So once again you're seeing

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Speaker 4: that under thirty five the younger evangelicals. So I mean,

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Speaker 4: everything you're seeing so forth turning yeah in the broader

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Speaker 4: conservative landscape is happening even more strongly in the evangelical subculture.

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Speaker 4: So I mean it is a strong battle going on

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Speaker 4: between generations.

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Speaker 2: Part of this right for electrical part of this is

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Speaker 2: about institutional rejuvenation or institutions. You know, some people say

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Speaker 2: burn it all down, let's build it back up. The

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Speaker 2: Evangelical Church, different than the mainstream Protestant in the Catholic

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Speaker 2: has never really been institution centric. It's been Jerry Falwen

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Speaker 2: that he built amazing institution that turned out to be

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Speaker 2: Liberty Baptist now Liberty University, Pat robertson the same thing.

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Speaker 2: People built these institutions, but it was always individuals building

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Speaker 2: solo institutions instead of something like the Anglican Church or

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Speaker 2: the Church of England or the Catholic Church. Are you

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Speaker 2: seeing this now in this fourth turning? Are even the

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Speaker 2: institutions that have been built, the seminaries like Wheaton College,

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Speaker 2: are they under assault like so many of the mainline

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Speaker 2: Protestant churches in the Catholic Church are really under assault

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Speaker 2: with this institutional kind of rot. And you're seeing young

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Speaker 2: people say, hey, there's got to be major reforms, there's

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Speaker 2: got to be major changes.

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Speaker 5: Yes, that's absolutely what you're seeing.

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Speaker 4: So you know, as we've been talking about Southern Baptists,

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Speaker 4: I can tell you there has been an absolute fight

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Speaker 4: for what you might call the soul of the Southern

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Speaker 4: Baptist convention. So there is the younger, more conservative, reformed

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Speaker 4: you might call them rabble rousers, who are trying to

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Speaker 4: push for these reforms, and you have the older guard

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Speaker 4: who are very established in their comfortable, I would say,

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Speaker 4: you know, soft, progressive, welcoming position. They don't want to

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Speaker 4: be challenged to say, hey, why aren't we doing a

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Speaker 4: better job bringing our biblical values into the public square.

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Speaker 4: Why are we not standing for these things more strongly?

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Speaker 4: Why are we partnering with all of these secular left

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Speaker 4: organizations who want to stifle Christian's voices in the public square.

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Speaker 4: So you are absolutely seeing that split, and I don't

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Speaker 4: think it's going to go away in any sense, just

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Speaker 4: really quickly. If you know who Carl Truman is, he's

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Speaker 4: a professor at Grove City College, a well known Christian

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Speaker 4: evangelical writer. He did this piece lamenting just recently in

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Speaker 4: first things, the fact that the younger people are no

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Speaker 4: longer respecting quote unquote big EVA meaning Big Evangelicalism the institutions. Instead,

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Speaker 4: he says, what we now see is the rise of

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Speaker 4: gig EVA. So those are the critics. These are the

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Speaker 4: people who start blogs, who start podcasts, and they are

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Speaker 4: becoming incredibly influential and gaining huge followings. You're seeing a

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Speaker 4: lot of these podcasts that are critical of the big

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Speaker 4: evangelical institutions, drawing you know, hundreds of thousands, millions of subscribers.

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Speaker 4: So I would call I don't think it's too far

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Speaker 4: to say there's a bit of a cold civil war

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Speaker 4: going on right now in evangelicalism.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Megan, extraordinary. Where do people get, particularly Shepherds for Sale,

652
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Speaker 2: which goes into a lot of this, where they get

653
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Speaker 2: through your books, where they get your podcasts, where they

654
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Speaker 2: get everything about.

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Speaker 7: You, ma'am.

656
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Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you.

657
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Speaker 4: So you can buy my book Shepherds for Sale, which

658
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Speaker 4: presents all of the receipts for all of this money

659
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Speaker 4: going to all of these evangelical institutions, how it's moving churches,

660
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Speaker 4: how it's moving ministries, and so you can get that

661
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Speaker 4: at Amazon, Barnes and Noble Target, anywhere you buy books.

662
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Speaker 4: And you can find me right there on x at

663
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Speaker 4: at Meg Basham and on Twitter at Journalists or excuse

664
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Speaker 4: me on Instagram at Journalists Megan Basham, and I write

665
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Speaker 4: it Daily Wire and you can find me several times

666
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Speaker 4: a week on our Morning Wire podcast.

667
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Speaker 2: Thank you man, appreciate you great work.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, thanks for having me thoughts.

669
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Speaker 7: It's about order. These kids want to return to order

670
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Speaker 7: and they don't care how they get it. And I've

671
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Speaker 7: seen wild things. I've seen these independent atheistic streamers who

672
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Speaker 7: are like, we need some Christianity up in here. And

673
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Speaker 7: you might not like some of the things Nick Foin

674
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Speaker 7: that says. I think he's a troll and the stuff

675
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Speaker 7: that he says is to get attention. But he makes

676
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Speaker 7: a better case for Catholic Christianity in America than most

677
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Speaker 7: politicians do. And so it's happening everywhere these institutions. I

678
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Speaker 7: saw the chaos that was brought in the Methodist Church

679
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Speaker 7: just recently, and they're doing it in the back.

680
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Speaker 2: Sure what he means on the Methodist Church, you saw

681
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Speaker 2: that personally. Well, they've weaponized every one of these institutions.

682
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Speaker 2: Presbyterian Church, fell, Episcopal Church, fel, raditional mainline Protestant churches.

683
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Speaker 7: So they just won in the Methodist Greater Conference in

684
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Speaker 7: twenty twenty four, and you know, the church had to

685
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Speaker 7: have a talk. Congregation got together and they were kind

686
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Speaker 7: of confused why we had this talk. But the church

687
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Speaker 7: had to vote on what is biblical you know, gay pastors,

688
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Speaker 7: non traditional marriage, and everybody's like, well, like why is

689
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Speaker 7: this happening. Meanwhile, if you look at the Methodist Book

690
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Speaker 7: of Social Doctrine, it reads like a leftist NGO, a

691
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Speaker 7: political action committee essentially. So they've taken an organization it's

692
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Speaker 7: probably going to die, probably going to die out in

693
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Speaker 7: ten or twenty years. You know, the final boomers who

694
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Speaker 7: go to Methodist churches and who still are weathering this

695
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Speaker 7: complete co opting of this organization that was a big

696
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Speaker 7: part of American culture very very long time. It's going

697
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Speaker 7: to die and the new institutions have to be rebuilt.

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Speaker 2: That's some fourth turning, by the way, on Nick being

699
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Speaker 2: a troll, all I say, and I think we're trying

700
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Speaker 2: to figure out how to play it. You see, have

701
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Speaker 2: you seen the dnesia that Alex Jones sponsored to debate

702
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Speaker 2: between Nick Fiantz and Daneshjasuza about Israel. It was a

703
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: full takedown. It was just he took it apart brick

704
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Speaker 2: by brick because the kid, you know it, clearly studied,

705
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: knew the information, brought the receipts, brought facts, and you

706
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Speaker 2: had the kind of old guard it just wants to

707
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Speaker 2: throw out this kind of bizarro, you know, disconnected parts

708
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Speaker 2: of the Old Testament, and it does to a modern audience.

709
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Speaker 2: If you're going to make that argument, you've got to

710
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Speaker 2: come in and go bang bang bang and making it

711
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Speaker 2: connected to today. Otherwise it just doesn't make any sense.

712
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Speaker 7: That's just as convoluted as when somebody in the establishment

713
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Speaker 7: Republican Party tries to explain to you how, no, this

714
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Speaker 7: time conservatism will win, same kind of thing.

715
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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's old conservative ink. Conservative inc. Is not

716
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Speaker 2: going to you know, particularly with the facts of the

717
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Speaker 2: Conservative inc. Never won in fact any time, anytime it did,

718
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Speaker 2: Like Reagan is an outsider as soon as he got in,

719
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Speaker 2: it's surrounded by the bush guys, right, trying to always

720
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Speaker 2: tap it down, and they just what they ended up

721
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Speaker 2: being is the Washington generals, the progressives, Harlem globetrotters. You're

722
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,479
Speaker 2: just there. It's performative. Your note, you're supposed to lose.

723
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Speaker 2: You're just trying to try to make it some sort

724
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Speaker 2: of some sort of game. Hangar for a second. We're

725
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Speaker 2: able to tell you. Let's take a commercial break and

726
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Speaker 2: we're gonna go to something extraordinary happening down at Real

727
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Speaker 2: America Voice in uh yeah, No, I'm gonna I'm gonna

728
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Speaker 2: wait for it and then come back after the break.

729
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Speaker 2: Thank you. I got a producer. It's on things wakes

730
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Speaker 2: up every now and again goes, hey you got I

731
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Speaker 2: got it, bro, that's I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna

732
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Speaker 2: do a couple of reads after the break. We're gonna

733
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Speaker 2: go down to Real America's Voice in our Palm Beach

734
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Speaker 2: West Palm Beach studio actually maybe next door that we're

735
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Speaker 2: doing it. You may have heard the other day that

736
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Speaker 2: the J six Prison Choir is doing an album. It's

737
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Speaker 2: put it's going to be put out, produced and put

738
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Speaker 2: out by Real America's Voice. We're going to put that

739
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Speaker 2: out I think on the eve of or the day before,

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Speaker 2: two days before January sixth at Amfest this year, and

741
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Speaker 2: unfortunately amphest is sold out so we to be able

742
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Speaker 2: to get more war room posse tickets. But it's as

743
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Speaker 2: you can imagine, it just absolutely sold out. Charlie Kirk

744
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Speaker 2: and turning points am fast. That starts I think the

745
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Speaker 2: eighteenth in Phoenix. We're gonna take one of these songs,

746
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Speaker 2: the first song they're producing, which I think we're gonna

747
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Speaker 2: see part of it today and it's going to be

748
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Speaker 2: released at Amfest. So the first song is going to

749
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Speaker 2: be Amfest. The album is gonna be on the EVA

750
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Speaker 2: J six. This is the J six Prison Choir which

751
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Speaker 2: was so moving about every night would they would sing,

752
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Speaker 2: and of course Cash Bettel was able to work with

753
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Speaker 2: the producers down there and get the President excited about

754
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Speaker 2: it and put out it was a massive hit. We're

755
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Speaker 2: gonna return there in a moment and get it Mark

756
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Speaker 2: Mitchell's and Steward with him. We want to thank Megan Vasham,

757
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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk and the team. I think are gonna pick

758
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Speaker 2: it up at where they're gonna pick up a new

759
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Speaker 2: but I believe you're gonna see a Bilad. I think

760
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Speaker 2: we're gonna go into the Oval Office with the crown

761
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Speaker 2: prints of Saudi Arabia and the President of these United States.

762
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Speaker 2: Sure commercial break back in a moment. Even better, they're

763
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Speaker 2: at a record They're at lj's studio in Miami. Man,

764
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Speaker 2: how hot is that? We're going to Miami. LJ and

765
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Speaker 2: Dan tell us about it. The J six Prison Choir

766
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Speaker 2: talk to us about the album, the song what are

767
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Speaker 2: we gonna hear? I gotta tell you, Rob sick who's

768
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Speaker 2: an old cable dog, and start at riv one of

769
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Speaker 2: the best guys I know in this industry. He is

770
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Speaker 2: so so bored with cable, but he's so excited about

771
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Speaker 2: this record.

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Speaker 6: Label and what you guys are doing. So LJ Dan

773
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Speaker 6: take it away. So no, we're totally excited about it too.

774
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Speaker 6: I may be more excited about it than Rob. But

775
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Speaker 6: today we are adding the orchestra instruments to the re

776
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 6: recorded version of Justice for All, So very much like

777
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Speaker 6: what you heard while the NBS was pulling up to

778
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Speaker 6: the White House, that beautiful orchestra we're going to be adding.

779
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Speaker 1: Wait today we're gonna have violin and cello and viola.

780
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Speaker 1: They're going to be accompanying a beautiful piano part, and

781
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Speaker 1: we have all the J six choirs singing behind. And

782
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Speaker 1: it was quite a great experience to be a part

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Speaker 1: of that.

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Speaker 6: And of course we'll have President's Pleasure of Allegiance interpolated

785
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Speaker 6: just like the original.

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Speaker 2: So you're you layer this in, You've got the you

787
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Speaker 2: got the you got the prison choir itself. They do

788
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Speaker 2: the singing. You then bring in the orchestra or you

789
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Speaker 2: layer that in and then on then did the last

790
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Speaker 2: thing you lay in is the president themselves.

791
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Speaker 1: Yeah, those those vocals will come in after then we

792
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: do some additional production just to make it all come together,

793
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Speaker 1: all the mixing effects and kind of try to paint

794
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: a beautiful picture, because we wanted to sound a little

795
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Speaker 1: different than the original while having still a traditional classic

796
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Speaker 1: approach with your orchestra and just a piano as opposed

797
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Speaker 1: to the original recording.

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Speaker 6: Steve, the sound equality on this one is insane. The

799
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Speaker 6: original one was certainly a tear jerker for all of us.

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Speaker 6: Sorry I lost my headphone there. It was a tear

801
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Speaker 6: jerker for all one of us. But this one is

802
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Speaker 6: the audience store uplifting.

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Speaker 2: The reason that there was a tear you actually took

804
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Speaker 2: You actually took that from actually the prison itself, right,

805
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Speaker 2: I mean that's they would sing this every night. So

806
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 2: it was the it was the so you took that here,

807
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Speaker 2: you're here. You're going to have them as free men

808
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Speaker 2: and women actually singing correct.

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Speaker 6: Well, what we did, so they are we cut their

810
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Speaker 6: vocals already. So the original choir was twenty members. About

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Speaker 6: two months ago, we flew forty individuals down and we

812
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 6: recorded them in Criteria Studios, a very famous studio. Uh,

813
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 6: the Eagles did Hotel California there, Bob Marley recorded there,

814
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 6: James Brown did I Feel Good, You've got countless Justin

815
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 6: Bieber albums. Justin sim very very famous studio, and they

816
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 6: were very nice enough to accommodate us to work there.

817
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Speaker 2: So we brought forty individuals there.

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Speaker 6: So now the choir has expanded from twenty to forty

819
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Speaker 6: because they're no longer we don't have to squeeze them

820
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Speaker 6: into one little room to capture them through a cell phone,

821
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Speaker 6: so that the sonic quality is amazing. Get excited because

822
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Speaker 6: this is going to be a really, really big one.

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Speaker 6: It's going to sound much better than the original, and

824
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Speaker 6: I think it's time to celebrate. You know, the work

825
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 6: is not necessarily done for the J sixers. I think

826
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Speaker 6: a lot of them are still struggling. I actually, in fact,

827
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Speaker 6: I know a lot of them are still struggling. But

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Speaker 6: this is what's going to help them more music.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean us? What do you mean?

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Speaker 6: What do you mean that's still struggling? What do you

831
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Speaker 6: mean they're still struggling? Well, I mean, Danny, you can

832
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 6: speak to this as well. When we were in the

833
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 6: studio about two months ago. I had about twenty of

834
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Speaker 6: them do spoken word and just tell us the stories

835
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Speaker 6: about what took place in prison. And I had not

836
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Speaker 6: met these people in person until that day. I had

837
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 6: been in communication with a lot of them, but the

838
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 6: stories that I heard, I mean, we had the entire

839
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 6: control room was crying. One individual showed me his hands

840
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 6: and his finger was going the complete opposite direction.

841
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 2: I said, what the hell happened? He guys?

842
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 6: Were the police officers stamped on my foot and they

843
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 6: refused to fix it. So these are the kind of

844
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Speaker 6: stories that I don't think the American public knows, and

845
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 6: they deserve to know, and we're going to get that

846
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Speaker 6: out for them on January sixth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

848
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Speaker 1: Then to elaborate a little bit more, you're talking about fathers,

849
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: you know, hard working Americans that were separated from their families,

850
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: and to hear their testimonies of what they went through,

851
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: for me as a producer was very moving and definitely,

852
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: you know, was a privilege and an honor to be

853
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 1: there to help put together the choir arrangement.

854
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Speaker 2: And you guys are going to enjoy it. Sounds really good.

855
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 2: Where can people go and hear the music? We got

856
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: to bounce and get a toss back to the White

857
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 2: House because the Saudi Prince is there. Where can people

858
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: go to hear this? Or can we hear some of

859
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 2: it right now?

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Speaker 6: Can we hear some of it right now? I don't

861
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 6: think it's possible. Okay, the technology in the room, Where

862
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 6: can people go? Where can people go to hear what

863
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 6: you guys have put together? Well, we've got that little

864
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 6: sizzle that you played last week when I was on

865
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Speaker 6: air with you. If we had more time, I would

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Speaker 6: have loved to have played you a little bit more

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Speaker 6: of that and some of the rerecord of Justice for All,

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Speaker 6: but unfortunately we don't. But we will be capturing some

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Speaker 6: more content and I would say stay tuned for on

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Speaker 6: rav socials. We'll post it up on there.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll get it back this afternoon or something. We'll

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Speaker 2: check with you guys as soon as we bounce here

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Speaker 2: live guys. Social media at LJ and Dan Where do

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Speaker 2: people get you?

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Speaker 7: So?

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Speaker 6: I'm on truth So so I'm just at LJ, Instagram,

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Speaker 6: at LJ, fino on X my own X account. But

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Speaker 6: my record label is FC Labelgroup dot com And as

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Speaker 6: I said before, just follow by the way. We're looking

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Speaker 6: for followers Real America's Music on Instagram. We're growing that

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Speaker 6: account now. Uh stay tuned with the Real America's Voice

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Speaker 6: social platforms. And then Danny and Uh for the.

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Speaker 1: Pusher's Music group, Just the Pushers. That's our production crew.

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Speaker 1: We help a lot of conservative Christians in their productions

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Speaker 1: and music across the country. You could find us at

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Speaker 1: at the Pushers on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Thanks guys. By the way, guys, and the Boomer and

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Speaker 2: Me is going to come out. But when you say

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Speaker 2: James Brown in the in the Hotel California right with

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Speaker 2: the Eagles, and then you add Justin Bieber and Justin Treen, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: you've got sacred You've got a sacred spot.

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Speaker 6: You know you got You've got stars from every decade

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Speaker 6: that have recorded there exactly for the young crowd who

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Speaker 6: may or may not be listening. Had to throw in

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Speaker 6: some Bieber. But Justin is a bigger fan of the

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Speaker 6: Eagles than James Brown. And Bob Marley as well.

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Speaker 2: Definitely Bob Martin man amazing. Also, the JA six scar

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Speaker 2: is going to do it social media. We've got to

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Speaker 2: bounce mart Mitchell, thanks for being here for us where

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Speaker 7: It's great ras muss An underscore Pole on Twitter and

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Speaker 7: at Honest Polster and check us out on YouTube as well.

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Speaker 2: Rasmussen underscore Pole. I really want to get Megan and

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Speaker 2: you together and I want to think about doing a

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Speaker 2: special with YouTube and talk about where Christianity is with

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Speaker 2: the numbers show us. I think it's something could I

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Speaker 2: work with the afterwards Birch Goll. I want to thank

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Speaker 2: the Charlie Kirk Show. We'll be back at five. Will

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Speaker 2: Licky will be in studio. I got kats with while

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