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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three

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Speaker 1: sixty five. We are part of the Action Network. I

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Speaker 1: am Chad Milman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: As always, I am joined by my co host, my companion,

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Speaker 1: Mike Campadre, my BFF professional better Simon Hunter.

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Speaker 2: Hello Simon, Hello Chad and busy weekend. How you doing,

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Speaker 2: brother dude.

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Speaker 1: We're recovered from the eclipse. We're recovered from WrestleMania. We're

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Speaker 1: recovered from an epic trip to Colorado.

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Speaker 3: We're back, addict.

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Speaker 1: We have a very special NFL guest on today's show.

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Speaker 3: The NFL Draft is next week. We love the draft.

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Speaker 1: I like to introduce this next guest using his NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft profile from April of twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 3: Are you ready? Quote?

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Speaker 1: What sticks out most about this player is his explosiveness.

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Speaker 1: He is an absolute bottle rocket and moves with discipline

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Speaker 1: and urgency. He possesses a terrific motor, does not get gassed,

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Speaker 1: and never gives up on plays.

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Speaker 4: There's more.

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Speaker 1: This player certainly has the potential important to remember that word,

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Speaker 1: the potential to play tackle in the NFL. But what

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Speaker 1: makes him a safe pick is his easy transition to

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Speaker 1: the guard position, and finally the la Times once said

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Speaker 1: our guest was the best part of an a cappella

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Speaker 1: singof scene. The only memorable moment in this movie, of course,

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Speaker 1: that was the draft profile and movie review for pitch

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Speaker 1: Perfect two. For today's very special guest, David Baktiari, the

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Speaker 1: fourth round draft pick who would start, by the way,

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Speaker 1: over one hundred and thirty games at tackle for the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, earning Pro Bowl trips, earning all Pro mentions.

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Speaker 1: David Baktiari and your glorious hair, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it, Chad. That's that's quite an ego stroke

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Speaker 4: to me, so it's always nice. I have a proper introduction.

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Speaker 1: That was a pretty great intro, you know, credit to

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Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell, producer Matt Mitchell, who pulled the draft stuff.

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Speaker 1: I did my own research on pitch Perfect two and

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Speaker 1: read the Times review this morning before we came out

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Speaker 1: on the air, and I was pretty pleased with what

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Speaker 1: is it what I was able to pick out, and

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Speaker 1: by the way, uh, we'll get to pitch Perfect two.

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Speaker 1: I did watch some of the highlights on YouTube last night,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna dig deep on all that and more.

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Speaker 1: the Action Network YouTube page. All right, sir, welcome, welcome, Welcome,

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Speaker 1: let's start, you know, for the first time in your career,

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Speaker 1: no longer with the Green Bay Packers. Give us an

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Speaker 1: update on how you're feeling and what's happening with your

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Speaker 1: incredible NFL journey.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so the Packers they broke up with me, you know,

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Speaker 4: eleven year relationship. It was good, it was fun, bittersweet,

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Speaker 4: you know, I loved, loved my time in Green Bay.

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Speaker 4: But the reality of being the player side, you know,

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Speaker 4: you as a fan, it's like, oh, you'd always love

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Speaker 4: like your players to stay with the team, and I

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Speaker 4: would too, but it is a business at the end

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Speaker 4: of the day, so business decision to be made. Currently

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Speaker 4: a free agent, currently rehabbing from my surgery this past year,

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Speaker 4: and kind of just playing the field, feeling it out,

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Speaker 4: and kind of keeping all options open. So it's kind

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Speaker 4: of exciting. I've I've never been a free agent before.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of cool being like the new hot girl

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Speaker 1: I have a theory and I think this goes back years.

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Speaker 1: The longer your hair as an offensive lineman, the more

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Speaker 1: coming out there with long hair. I do think it

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Speaker 4: Can't say that I modeled my hair game after him.

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Speaker 4: I was honestly was just trying to grow a mullet

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Speaker 4: Clay Matthews cut. Once I met Clay back in twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 4: when I'm playing football. That's pretty much the only times

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Speaker 2: I have a selfish question as an Eagles fan, could

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Speaker 2: you tell me what the magic is of Jeff Stotlin

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Speaker 2: What makes him so special that you know Melta came

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Speaker 2: it's incredible, how incredibly gifted of a coach he is

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Speaker 2: and how many people know this. He's a Chip Kelly project.

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Speaker 2: Chip Kelly brought him in when he joined the Eagles.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I actually I know Jeff because during the draft

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Speaker 2: Just knows talent. Jeff just knows he knew with you obviously.

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Speaker 4: I mean not enough. But maybe they maybe they felt

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Speaker 4: I remember laying like speaking of the Eagles make you

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Speaker 4: draft day, I remember we got locked in like this. Uh,

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Speaker 4: to like or almost like stripped down and get naked.

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Speaker 4: You're definitely a piece of meat. You're like a piece

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Speaker 4: Get getting back to Jeff, I think his ability to

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Speaker 4: understands proper technique. I mean he's taken raw talent and

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Speaker 4: But I've been around other coaches that I just sit

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Speaker 1: What do you remember about the draft process as you

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Speaker 4: The combine is not sexy. What the TV side, you

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Speaker 4: I can speak for everyone, it is not a sexy thing.

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Speaker 4: It essentially a test in and of itself. If you're

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Speaker 4: don't care how much time they take because you voluntarily

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Speaker 4: those psych test just wear you out and they're stupid.

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Speaker 4: It's like, uh, it's like, uh, what's your favorite color?

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Speaker 4: Do you love your mom and dad? Did you like

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Speaker 4: they just wear you out doing that. The food sucks.

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Speaker 2: The Patriots must not have assets to Hernandez, yeah, hey now, or.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they just overlooked it because of the talent.

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Speaker 4: That's true. The food sucks. I remember walking this auditorium

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Speaker 4: into this like half auditorium, there's a stage, there's like

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Speaker 4: then like you rarely have any time to eat and

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Speaker 2: From the fan perspective, I'll say, it's just cool seeing

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Speaker 2: And it's crazy. You go from being a high schooler

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Speaker 3: How do you celebrate that night?

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Speaker 4: Well, fortunately it was my third deal, so I kind

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Speaker 1: What do your teammates say to you when that happens.

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Speaker 4: I mean, usually the go tos is big money, let

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Speaker 4: So a lot of that, And then I mean I

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Speaker 2: My view of Aaron is we all have friends like Aaron, Right,

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Speaker 2: Rogan and they love conspiracies and they say crazy stuff.

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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you know, you

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Speaker 2: You guys chilled off the field, like, you know, you

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Speaker 2: Have you ever seen him as motivated as he is

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Speaker 2: this year ahead of the season, where it's like he's

432
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Speaker 2: just taken all of the doubt and put it into

433
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Speaker 2: this year.

434
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Speaker 4: I think Aaron performs best with doubt. I think he

435
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 4: converts it into energy in a really positive way. And

436
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Speaker 4: then if you just kind of follow his career and

437
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 4: I always have the prefaces I love speaking for him

438
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,400
Speaker 4: because he hates people speaking for him. So I get

439
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 4: mad at me for us being like, you don't know

440
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 4: what's going on my head. You know, I'm in control

441
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 4: of myself. You don't fucking get it. I digress. You know,

442
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 4: he was doubted in college. He was out in high school,

443
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Speaker 4: dat in college, going to beute, doubted in cal Doubted

444
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 4: at the draft night, embarrassed at the draft night. You know,

445
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 4: dad on the Packers with Brett, and then you know,

446
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 4: I just wanted to start proving everyone. So I think

447
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,919
Speaker 4: he does really well in that scenario, and you know,

448
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Speaker 4: even when new coach comes in and then they draft

449
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,439
Speaker 4: you know, first round quarterback first time they did that,

450
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Speaker 4: and then you know he rat a lost back back

451
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 4: MVPs like he does very well with that. I think

452
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Speaker 4: the history speaks for me to make that statement, you know,

453
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Speaker 4: going into this, I think he same dynamic. I think

454
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Speaker 4: a lot of doubt age is creeping in. He understands,

455
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 4: you know, time's on on the side anymore. You know,

456
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 4: he's definitely on the back night in the you know,

457
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 4: last couple holes. So I think for him, he's trying

458
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 4: to maximize everything he's got, you know, being on a

459
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 4: Jets organization that hasn't had a lot of success and

460
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 4: having trying to turn over the entire franchise and make

461
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 4: it more of a winning culture. But I think I

462
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 4: think he does well with more stress and more weight.

463
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Speaker 4: I don't think he always should have to do that,

464
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:28,880
Speaker 4: but he does love the Superman superhero paradox. So long

465
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Speaker 4: winded way of saying, yeah, I think he's can do

466
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 4: pretty well this year.

467
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Speaker 3: Can you think of plays? I'm sure you can.

468
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Speaker 1: You're in Green Bay and you're playing with him and

469
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Speaker 1: you're seeing him do things that you had never seen,

470
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Speaker 1: didn't think a quarterback could do that were outside versus

471
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Speaker 1: other things you've ever experienced.

472
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can tell you two quick stories about that.

473
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Speaker 4: One is when I first got on the team and

474
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Speaker 4: I was playing tackle. I remember when I finally started

475
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Speaker 4: like playing with like with the ones in playing with Aaron.

476
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 4: I remember like a guy kind of beat me. I

477
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 4: was like, ohit, like I'm running Arond the quarterback of

478
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Speaker 4: ten yards like a sack and the quarterback wasn't there,

479
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Speaker 4: and I was like, this is amazing. Like college, like

480
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 4: if I got that turling corner, like you know, twelve eleven,

481
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 4: ten yards, like this is sack because they'd have no

482
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 4: idea of pocket presence. But having a guy that you

483
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 4: know is also really detailed and really good at his job,

484
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Speaker 4: I just didn't compute it. Did It didn't really make

485
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Speaker 4: sense to me. But seeing him operate and then I

486
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 4: remember him throwing a making a throw to Jermichael Finley

487
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Speaker 4: and then him like one hand catching, I was like, dude,

488
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Speaker 4: this is so sick. Everyone's really good. I just never

489
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Speaker 4: I've never been around that. Like I won like thirteen

490
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Speaker 4: games in my four years at Colorado, so I hadn't

491
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Speaker 4: really been around much like high end talent, so I

492
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 4: was pretty ignorant to the idea of so much good

493
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Speaker 4: talent around me. So that's one thing being kind of

494
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Speaker 4: odd and seeing him make amazing throws. Two was I

495
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Speaker 4: remember having a talk with the GM now Brian Goodagainst

496
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Speaker 4: and he had said with all the scouts, he always

497
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Speaker 4: tell them when you go on to practice and in

498
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Speaker 4: they're in the evaluation of quarterbacks for the day, you

499
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 4: can evaluate Aaron like everyone else because he's going to

500
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Speaker 4: make one throw day that's going to completely ruin your

501
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Speaker 4: entire scale and grading an idea of uh evaluating quarterbacks.

502
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Speaker 4: And he has to always I remember him saying that

503
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Speaker 4: I have to prefaice that and make it important because

504
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 4: every day we go down there, there's always one places

505
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Speaker 4: he makes that's absolutely insane. Like some of his cool

506
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Speaker 4: stuff I think he's done might have happened in practice.

507
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Speaker 4: Some cool things obviously have made it in the games.

508
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Speaker 4: But if it gives you any indication, he does that

509
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Speaker 4: in practice all the time.

510
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Speaker 2: My favorite Rodgers thing which I think Jordan Love is

528
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Speaker 2: taking apart, which again I love to ask you about.

529
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Speaker 2: But is that bunny hop like one foot flick of

530
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Speaker 2: the wrist. I mean, I can his visual edge right now,

531
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Speaker 2: Jordan Nelson corner pocket of the end zone, and it

532
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Speaker 2: feels like Jordan Love has taken that part of his game.

533
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Speaker 2: Like if you watch Jordan Love again. I don't know

534
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 2: the most about quarterbacks, but I know footwork is key.

535
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Speaker 2: He will literally have the most unstable footwork. Jordan Love

536
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Speaker 2: just like Rodgers would he could throw off his back foot, Like,

537
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Speaker 2: did you see similarities in practice between that? I mean,

538
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Speaker 2: that's it's definitely something he's taken apart from Rogers, who

539
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 2: made his own part of it game where Jordan, you know,

540
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 2: off balanced throws. He's really improved from college to where

541
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 2: he's at and his first year as a starter.

542
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think just from what I know of Jordan

543
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Speaker 4: a lot of potential. A growth pick was awesome because

544
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Speaker 4: he'd be able to sit for three years behind the

545
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Speaker 4: Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: Like, that's the crazy part is he learned, like you

547
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Speaker 2: got to see the best of the best every day

548
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 2: at practice and film. It's it's like, it is crazy

549
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Speaker 2: how lucky that is.

550
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Speaker 4: Yeah, to be honest, and this is respectful, I don't

551
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 4: think anyone really saw how good Jordan was in practice.

552
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Speaker 4: I think Jordan's more of a gamer. And also it's

553
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 4: kind of polarizingly tough to evaluate a guy like Jordan

554
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 4: when he's constantly around Aaron.

555
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Speaker 2: Probably.

556
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Speaker 4: To be honest and this, I'm saying, Jordan is a

557
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 4: very good quarterback. He's gonna do a lot of really

558
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 4: good things in the league. And I think you're seeing

559
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 4: the beginning of his career, starting right now. But when

560
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 4: you're always, like I said, it's hard to evaluate quarterbacks

561
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Speaker 4: when you're around Aaron, and I had been accustomed to

562
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 4: seeing what Aaron was doing all the time. It's tough

563
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 4: to really see how good he is when you have

564
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 4: Aaron doing just the most absurd things all the time.

565
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 4: He really flicks his wrist and go sixty yards and

566
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Speaker 4: you never really see ducks come out of Aaron's hands.

567
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Speaker 4: Where Jordan very good quarterbacks, sometimes you're gonna throw a

568
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 4: little more of the ducks, a little more like throws

569
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 4: that aren't like in perfect step again extremely efficient. But

570
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Speaker 4: that's where like the hard trying to like separate, he's

571
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Speaker 4: still a very good quarterback. There's just a difference, Like

572
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 4: Aaron is like a just in a different class int

573
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Speaker 4: and of itself. I think that's why everyone starts talking,

574
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 4: you know, puts up with is he the best? The best? Ever?

575
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 4: Plays only when won Super Bowl? You know you got

576
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Speaker 4: guys of one, like how many is Tom won? Six seven?

577
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Speaker 4: I don't even know at this point he does.

578
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Speaker 2: Own the hell of Maria though we'll give we have

579
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Speaker 2: rogers that he is the king of Hell Mary like

580
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Speaker 2: I try to explain to my younger cousin. I was like, dude,

581
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: you don't get it, Like you have to go on

582
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: YouTube and watch Aaron Rodgers. Hell Mary's people throw up

583
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: a prayer. He is throwing with accuracy sixty seventy yards

584
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Speaker 2: downfield to a.

585
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Speaker 4: Guy, and not to mention that's with more than one

586
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Speaker 4: broken collar room like his. He is fucking impressive, it is,

587
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 4: and I'm honored to say I got to play with

588
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Speaker 4: him now. Again, going back to the comparison, I think

589
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 4: the best thing that Aaron did for Jordan was like,

590
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Speaker 4: don't do me, no need to do me. Just be

591
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 4: comfortable and play and understand the game, Understand how defenses

592
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 4: run there, how they run their coverages, understand the whole

593
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Speaker 4: operation of the offense. And then he's like, just be comfortable.

594
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Speaker 4: So I think a lot of like the feet the

595
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Speaker 4: footworks ouf that you're talking about, I really think that's

596
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Speaker 4: more of just Jordan watching Aaron and just feeling comfortable. Okay,

597
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 4: I can add this, but he never The thing I

598
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 4: really appreciate about Jordan never you never saw him try

599
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Speaker 4: to be like Aaron. It just whatever ended up being

600
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 4: natural was great. And I always remember hearing Aaron say

601
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 4: certain things like you just whatever's most comfortable for you,

602
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 4: Like that's what you gotta do. You gotta be the best.

603
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 4: You don't try and be like me. And I do

604
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 4: remember seeing a lot of quarterbacks over my time they

605
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 4: tried to be like Aaron, Like you could see them

606
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 4: actively like trying and practicing, like there's only one Aeron.

607
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 4: You got to be the best you. And this is

608
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Speaker 4: where I think is most important. Never try to become

609
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Speaker 4: someone else. Maybe take the idea, but you have to

610
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 4: you have to make it your own. And I think

611
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 4: that's what Jordan did really well. Like there's certain things

612
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 4: Jordan does that's completely opposite of what Aaron does, like

613
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 4: timing of the throw and staying within the system. I

614
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 4: think Aaron loved going off schedule. I think Jordan, you know, again,

615
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 4: he's younger, so maybe he feels more obligated too at

616
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 4: this this point in time. But that's one thing I

617
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 4: remember when we were playing well before I got surgery

618
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 4: last year, that that was one thing that he did

619
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 4: really well. He stays within the system, a lot more

620
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 4: hits off hitches off his back foot and that ball's

621
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Speaker 4: coming out and he's just gonna say, all right, screw it,

622
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 4: this is where the coach that's supposed to be there.

623
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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna just pipe it right here and whatever

624
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 4: happens happens. Whereas Aaron, that's where the magic happens. It's

625
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 4: a double edged sword. You hate it, but you love it.

626
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 4: And that's why you never count him out because you

627
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 4: have no eight because he can do everything, so he

628
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 4: wants to do anything because he can do everything.

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Speaker 1: Well, there is something I bet when you're an offensive

630
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: lineman knowing who you're blocking for and knowing the ability

631
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Speaker 1: of that player, but also in the confidence you'll have

632
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,239
Speaker 1: down to the final seconds sustaining that block for the

633
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: extra tenth of the second to allow someone to step

634
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: up in the pocket because you know what they're capable

635
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: of doing no matter where you are in the field.

636
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the the game changes, I think, particularly talking offensive

637
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Speaker 4: line play, certain guys you can definitely play differently. I

638
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 4: don't think you can. How to evaluate offense line is tough.

639
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 4: It is more you can't look at statistics because they,

640
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 4: to be honest, I think it tells a very small

641
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 4: fraction of the actual story. You could take certain offense

642
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 4: line and you think are great past protectors, and I

643
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Speaker 4: would look at it and I can tell you strap

644
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Speaker 4: the bat. There's probably a small handful of guys i'd

645
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 4: actually feel comfortable. I'm like, go play for go play

646
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Speaker 4: for a guy that holds the ball for longer than

647
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Speaker 4: two point five seconds, or like a guy like Aaron

648
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 4: during not he's definitely gotten quicker with his release. He

649
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 4: has a great release, No, but his ability to hold

650
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 4: the ball now is not as much as he used

651
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 4: to back in his prime. I don't think people will

652
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 4: be talking about a certain linemen with the same amount

653
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 4: of respect because it's extremely tough. But I was thankful

654
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 4: because it made me. It forced me to someone's got

655
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 4: to do it and if it's not gonna be using me,

656
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 4: someone else, and that it forced me to become so

657
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 4: freaking good at passpro and like step my game up

658
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 4: because if not, he's gonna get smoked or I'm gonna

659
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 4: get yelled at everything. You can't blame this guy. It's

660
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 4: always gonna be the line like if Aaron ends up

661
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 4: moving wrong in the pocket and I get bull rushed,

662
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 4: but he's like fading over to me, my coach would

663
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 4: be like stoppin buller. So far like, does anyone want

664
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 4: to tell this guy to have a proper drop back.

665
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 4: That's why Tom Brady amazing, Alex Smith, Alex Smith and

666
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 4: Tom Brady by far some of the best quarterbacks to

667
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 4: play for. In his old lineman's dream gonn it's run

668
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 4: heavy first play action, they're touching like eight and a

669
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 4: half nine yards with their back foot, they're stepping up

670
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 4: to almost five yards. They're tall enough, like Tom can

671
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 4: see over everybody, and he's always dishing the bat and

672
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 4: it's like, first two reads are gone, don't go broke

673
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 4: taking a profit. I'm gonna check it down. We're gonna

674
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 4: live to fight another day. Tom has made so many

675
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 4: linemen so rich, and then when they get broke off

676
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 4: go somewhere else. You don't really hear much about them

677
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 4: because then it's like you gotta like my age old saying,

678
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 4: is a pass block for dough, run block for show,

679
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 4: I really get exposed. And that's where like, if you

680
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 4: have a quarterback that plays a little bit out of

681
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 4: the system or does that like you have a tough living.

682
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 4: So again, it's really hard. I think there's so much

683
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 4: more to offensive line play that I think goes unknowsed

684
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 4: that I'm spoken in, and I think a lot of people,

685
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 4: even in a lot of analysts, I don't think Frank,

686
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 4: I don't think they don't think they really know what

687
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 4: the fuck they're talking about. Honestly, I'll say some offensive

688
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 4: lineman X offense lineman when they talk because I sit here,

689
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 4: I'm like, God, it's a terrible take. God, you are

690
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 4: just jones and so hard for this dude, like you

691
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 4: just wanted to be your friend so bad and that honestly,

692
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 4: that shit fucking Like now that I'm I'm closer to

693
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 4: being the and done, like I'm gonna start calling these

694
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 4: guys out like it is fucking like those guys are

695
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 4: so lame. I'm like, save he's good or bad, save's

696
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 4: got brickfeet or not. It's put them off because you

697
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 4: want him to come on your now new podcast, or

698
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 4: you want to be friends with them so you can

699
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 4: be an analyst and have your or whatever, Like yeah,

700
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 4: get out of here, loser, Like that's you. Like that

701
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 4: stuff really grinds meet. You got me motivated. You have

702
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 4: me motivated talking about this.

703
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: Well, Listen, I do love your Twitter feed because it

704
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: is so unfiltered and literally everything you can talk about

705
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: the turf field versus the grass field. Pretty much any

706
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: subject that is being discussed, football or otherwise, it is

707
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: a full on blast.

708
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 3: You should go be an analyst.

709
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 4: I don't know. Part of me wants to hate to

710
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 4: say it might be too easy. I may I maybe

711
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 4: want to challenge myself more by going into something I

712
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,239
Speaker 4: really have no idea and really getting humbled, like I

713
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,479
Speaker 4: felt like that's how I felt with football.

714
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: I'm a sports bet with us. Brother, that's will humble

715
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: you real quick.

716
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, no sports betting, Like I'm gonna be honest, I don't.

717
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 4: You're not supposed to, so I guess. Yeah.

718
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. We had Chris long On. He talked about it.

719
00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 4: He was like, I know what I was walking in

720
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 4: though I don't, and that shit scares me because yeah,

721
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 4: I know of the insider information and I still don't

722
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 4: understand the outcomes. So I don't know how these certain

723
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 4: lines are so good and like what's prestaurant? But like

724
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 4: I'm in there learning all week, hearing the game plan,

725
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 4: no one what's up, and I still don't understand how,

726
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 4: like like nothing ends up coming to what I see

727
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 4: things forthwith, So I'm like, I don't know how people

728
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 4: even get a beat on that like that, well you

729
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 4: lived it like you were in some Green Bay games

730
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 4: where you guys were huge favorites. And obviously, you know

731
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 4: football any given sun to anything can happen. But to

732
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 4: the outside viewer, they're like, I'll never know how Aaron

733
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 4: Rodgers lost that game and how Green Bay didn't win

734
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 4: that game.

735
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 2: Where it's just like, that's sports. That's why we love

736
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,239
Speaker 2: this thing. Where it's like there's more to it than

737
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: just one on one. Right, it's football such a team

738
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: thing where it's the coaching game plan to the players

739
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: in the field, to the right scheme. Where that's why

740
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: again me and Chad we bet it. We love it.

741
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: You live it like as a player, you know it

742
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: is where people's like people are like, well, you guys

743
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: were a big favorite. You're like, no, we weren't like

744
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: those guys. We're just as good of us. They run

745
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: a great scheme like they have our numbers. So you know,

746
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: from your perspective, that's that's probably one of the toughest

747
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: parts of it.

748
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 4: Right, That's why I'm so scared of it because I

749
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 4: know so much about sports, yet it's so and I

750
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 4: know how unpredictable. It can be. That's why I'm I'm

751
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 4: not putting no money behind any of that because I

752
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 4: don't know how you can even it. Just that's a

753
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 4: frighten to me. I will say this though, We'll say this,

754
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 4: when it comes to betting, referees can totally influence a game.

755
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 4: I don't know if a player could, even if he

756
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 4: knows whatever lines and this stuff like that could be

757
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 4: tough unless you're seeing like sabotaging side point shaving things

758
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 4: like that. You know, shout out uh Falco, but uh

759
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 4: refs for sure, like you could totally. And it's starting

760
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 4: to make me more skeptical. The older I'm getting, the

761
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 4: more I'm seeing like some of these stupid calls, and

762
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 4: like I understand the impact, like to be honest, having

763
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 4: a holding call in the regular season which is completely ambiguous,

764
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 4: and I hate holdings and I think they're dumb.

765
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: What about the Chiefs and No. Two Super Bowls in

766
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: a row, zero holding calls on their offensive line? Which

767
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: review of that going against a forty nine Ers defensive

768
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 2: line and the Eagles defensive line zero holds.

769
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 4: I know when it comes to playoffs, the rest are

770
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 4: always gonna let you play like, oh no, and this

771
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 4: is I'll say it, Jean Sterator, my favorite fucking rep

772
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 4: up all hockey. Los guys suck it.

773
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: Jean's the man.

774
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 4: Dean is the man. I remember him literally coming up

775
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 4: when we were bitching him out the Cowboy game. We're like,

776
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 4: we saw these flags, like Aaron and said, he goes,

777
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 4: why don't you say anything about these other fucking flags.

778
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 4: He was all pissed off, and Gene comes up, super chill,

779
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 4: super cool. He goes, look, we already had this call.

780
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 4: We have the other calls against your guys in the team.

781
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 4: I didn't want the fucking fans. You know already they

782
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 4: already hate us. I don't want to hate us off

783
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 4: set and Aaron, let's just go play. And then then

784
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 4: Aaron Sis goes all right, Gene, thanks, but like he's

785
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 4: just so just chilling cool and like he's a big

786
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 4: like let you play. And that's what I know. Playoffs

787
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 4: are like they're gonna let you get away with a

788
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 4: lot more. It's like you gotta fucking fight twin. I

789
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 4: think that's why you see DB's grab a hold a

790
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 4: little more because I don't and this is my perno belief.

791
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 4: I think dB should hold. Let's not stop babying wide receivers.

792
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 4: And I think the rules are in place because this

793
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 4: is now just my opinion. I think rules are in

794
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 4: place because Goodell and the NFL know that more people

795
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 4: are going to tune into higher scoring games because that's

796
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 4: what's fun. So if we can change, even tweaking just

797
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 4: the rules a little bit, you're gonna change how the

798
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 4: outcome and how the game is played. And that's why

799
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 4: I think. I just think that's messed up. And that's

800
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 4: why I go back to, like in playoffs, like you

801
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 4: just gotta let him play. You gotta letdv's hold little more,

802
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 4: you can let offense line and hold. But I do

803
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 4: think that that is a direct like indication. Talking about

804
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 4: refs of two Super Bowls with the Chiefs, no holding

805
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 4: is like and if you're get like they call holding

806
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 4: on Trent. I thought that was a bs Mike. You

807
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 4: gotta if you're gonna call that one, you have the

808
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 4: hunters and call the one and Donald Smith not the

809
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 4: one where he's bear hugging Bosa when he spun. That's legal.

810
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Guys are stupid if the guy's

811
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 4: gonna spin and he have the back of his breastplate

812
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 4: facing you. You can totally hold on that thing all day.

813
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 4: Holding is once your feet are beat, you can borderline, borderline,

814
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 4: hug it, dude, as long as your feet aren't beat

815
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 4: the guy that that's what he wants to do, going

816
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 4: into your body like by all means, because the rulebook is,

817
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 4: once your hands get outside of the frame of your body,

818
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 4: you gotta let him go.

819
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: It does seem like this year offensive lineman and tackles

820
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: on the edge, we're getting further and further off the

821
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and cheating on the snap by a

822
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: quarter of a second just to be able to open

823
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: up and get to the edge a little bit faster

824
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: against a defensive end who has such a head start

825
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: or who just might be faster and stronger than they are.

826
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: Did you notice some differences? This felt like a narrative

827
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: this year in the NFL more than any year before.

828
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, because what's his nuts? Is an idiot? Who's the

829
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 4: chief's right tackle?

830
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 3: Jowan Taylor, Juan Taylor, there it is.

831
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Speaker 4: He's an idiot. He really fucked it up. He took

832
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 4: something that is good and within the rules, and bastards

833
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 4: it made it so egregious that now it's like a

834
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 4: mic like you there, we're putting a microscope over the issue.

835
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 4: Your boy with the Eagles, Lane Johnson. He's also started

836
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 4: to bastards it too.

837
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: They're gonna say Jason Peters, remember Jason Peters back into

838
00:37:59,160 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 2: his leg.

839
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 4: Kick when you saying that you get a little bit

840
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 4: further off the ball. But here's my thing. I guess

841
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 4: I'm a little biased, but it's really hard to see

842
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 4: me offsides and if you really slowed down, like I thought,

843
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 4: I'm definitely the best at getting off on the snack

844
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 4: count probably some of the like. And I learned that

845
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 4: from Joe Thomas and Joe Staley within the rules, because

846
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 4: the rule is the moment the ball begins to move,

847
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 4: you can move. But these assholes and now overdone it

848
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 4: and made it so apparent that it like just takes

849
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 4: a good you're ruining good thing. Now they're gonna be

850
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 4: worried about you on the ball, which has already been

851
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 4: an issue that was kind of quiet within like the

852
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 4: the refs had always come like there's so many times

853
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 4: you come up and be like, hey, you're getting warned.

854
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 4: Hey get up, like okay, cool, thank you for talking

855
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 4: to me, Like, work with me. Ref don't just throw

856
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 4: a flag like I'll scoot up for sure, And that's

857
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 4: what you do. You respect the rule, that's what it is.

858
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 4: But like you know, like John Taylor, he's not gonna

859
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 4: get called because it's Patrick Mahomes and everyone wants to

860
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 4: watch pack and home play. So if you just kind

861
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 4: of keep ignoring and keep scooting back and keep getting off,

862
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 4: really like, they're not gonna call a flag. Everyone knows

863
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 4: call flag every game. It's like, I think we know

864
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 4: DB's understand the same thing. They aren't call holding every time.

865
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 4: So like thread the needle, you know, you can get

866
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 4: a little in the gray area, but just don't overdo

867
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 4: it where then it's like, Okay, now we're gonna put

868
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 4: an emphasis on it, and then refs will legitimately ruin games.

869
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 4: And that's where I look at these guys. I'm like,

870
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 4: you guys ruined such a good thing. We had such

871
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 4: a good thing going. It was the best.

872
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 3: I got two more questions for you.

873
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: One, who is the one player pass rusher that gave

874
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: you the most concerns before a game?

875
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 4: It's tough what year because like my rookie year Alan

876
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 4: Smith was amazing, but I would take my older self

877
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 4: and put me in that situation again, let's face them,

878
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 4: and I think I actually did when he was on

879
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 4: the cow somewhere else, and I fear I fared way better.

880
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 4: But also I don't think he was as good. So

881
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 4: that's I've gotten that question a lot. Who's the best

882
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 4: pass rush of Ragon against I don't know. I've been

883
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 4: I've played a lot of unbelievable guys.

884
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: Chad wants you to say Khalil Mack.

885
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 4: No, I'll be on player. Here's the thing, Cli maxophanomen player.

886
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 4: Nothing against him. He's one of the best pure d

887
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 4: ms against to get after the quarterback and also get

888
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 4: off the U to stop the runner. But I'm gonna

889
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 4: be honest, I match up really well against him. And

890
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 4: if you go back film, like you know, I put

891
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 4: the leash on him and I take him for a

892
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 4: walk in past bro and there are a couple of

893
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 4: times in the run game where I'm not known from

894
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 4: a run blocking, but I'm taking him to the ground.

895
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 4: He's complaining to the ref because he wants holding, and

896
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 4: that's when that's when you know you're in a guy's head.

897
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 4: When he's begging the REF to help him out. So though, no,

898
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 4: no disrespect, I think he's a stud. I've seen him

899
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 4: absolutely wreck games and ruined offensive lineman's career. It's just

900
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 4: how he plays matches up really good to me. I'm

901
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 4: trying to think, like.

902
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: I'm trying to do the bike gets have anyone to

903
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 2: give you issues. I'm trying to someone in your division

904
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: ever since uh ever since Griffin.

905
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I hate it going against him, but he

906
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 4: also is playing me majority and like my prime and ascension,

907
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 4: so like I fare pretty well against him, but he

908
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 4: was extremely tough. He's up in my top five for sure.

909
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 4: Like I talked off into line and they're like, I

910
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 4: hate a playing because he's just gonna he's gonna he's

911
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: gonna try and break your will for sixty minutes. And

912
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 4: he's six foot one six two two seventy five with

913
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 4: a gunner and is just on turf in just five

914
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 4: steps and then just gonna absolutely smoke your face for

915
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 4: sixty minutes. So that sucks. I mean, honestly, Julius Peppers

916
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 4: is up there and I got a chance to play

917
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 4: with him, but I wish it would have played in

918
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 4: his prime, right, you know it's I'm saying I just

919
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 4: so I could really see because even.

920
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 2: If by Jared Allen is prime, did you miss Jared Allen?

921
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 4: I'm saying I played him, but I don't think I

922
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 4: didn't play him in Yeah, I started coming down and

923
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 4: I like, he gave me some fits, but I fared

924
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 4: pretty well against him, so oh man, it's tough. I

925
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 4: can't give you a name. That's how good you are, bro. Yeah, exactly,

926
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 4: disrespectful to to some other guys, like, uh, I can

927
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 4: play some guys. I think their SUTs. I think I

928
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 4: love both the Bosa brothers. I think they're awesome. I

929
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 4: think Miles Garrett is unbelievable. And the last time I played,

930
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 4: the only time I really played him was his rookiear

931
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 4: and it was also one of my best years that

932
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 4: I ever played. But I do remember I'm like, if

933
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 4: this kid can just figure it out, he'll dominate anybody.

934
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 4: Because he was very tough to play, but I had

935
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 4: the better day and better him because just timing, like

936
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 4: I just understood the game better, but I could tell

937
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 4: he was just kind of feeling it out and didn't

938
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 4: really get it. But I'm like, once this guy understands

939
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,959
Speaker 4: himself and how to play. He's going to destroy dudes,

940
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 4: and that's what you're seeing today. So tough for me

941
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 4: to just, you know, name one guy.

942
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: What last question? Well, I kind of got.

943
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

944
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 3: I got two more questions.

945
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 4: One is you can go over the time I'm with it.

946
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 3: One is.

947
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: One is it's so freaking cold in Green Bay and

948
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman, they always come out they're wearing short sleeves.

949
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 3: And I know it's got to be miserable.

950
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: Like, does anyone in the locker room ever say let's

951
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: just wear sleeves?

952
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 3: Like, what are we trying to prove here?

953
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: I know you don't want anyone to hold on your

954
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: sleeves and anything like that, but you can't tell me

955
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: that you're looking forward to playing in games like that.

956
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 4: I would rather play in negative degree degrees fahrenheit than

957
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 4: ninety in humidity in Florida.

958
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 2: That's a man, right there, Chad.

959
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 3: That is okay, I I think that is.

960
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 4: That is like here, here's here's my reason for Affin's line,

961
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 4: and then I'll get in sleep thing. Yeah, it gets

962
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 4: really cold, everyone tightens up, everyone slows down, Linemen. We

963
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 4: don't really slow down that much everyone comes down to

964
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 4: our level. We don't really drop because we don't really

965
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 4: have a high top end speed to begin with, so

966
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 4: it's just better. And we're organically and sulated, so we

967
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 4: already run a little bit hotter. So I kind of just,

968
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 4: at least for me, I kind of enjoyed those games.

969
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 4: They no sleep thing. I don't know, it's more of

970
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 4: a mentality. The older ass came in and it was

971
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 4: just kind of like a don't be a bitch. When

972
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 4: I was fucking wearing sleeves, IM all right cool when

973
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 4: I were in sleeves, Like, it's a mindset. So I

974
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 4: didn't and then but I mean you can. You can

975
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 4: find ways around it. Like I had elbow sleeves. I

976
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 4: did that. I covered up like I don't know, a

977
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 4: third of my arms. There's this stuff called like a

978
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 4: warm skin, which is like a borderline like vasaline that

979
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 4: you kind of rub into your arms and it makes

980
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 4: you feel I don't know, kind of warmer. It doesn't

981
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 4: get make your skin better with the being exposed of

982
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 4: cold temperatures. And but I can guarantee you like we had.

983
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 4: We've had a couple of guys like Elton Jenkins. He's

984
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 4: like been begging to wear sleeves, and I think now

985
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 4: that I'm definitely gone, he'll definitely will. And these younger

986
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 4: guys are coming in. It's all about like the swag

987
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 4: and you know, like having like the hand or hand warmer,

988
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 4: like little pocket thing the quarterbacks have on them now

989
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 4: and the shirt's being untucked and so I yeah, they're

990
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 4: gonna definitely rock sleeves. It's it was definitely more like

991
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 4: my generation, the generation before me. I kind of came

992
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 4: in and this is definitely changing because they want to

993
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 4: make sure it looks swaggy and cool.

994
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 3: Well, young kids are so freaking soft. It's just sad.

995
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 4: That's how you know we're old, is because when we

996
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 4: start calling them soft. Yeah, exactly, I'm just gonna say it. Netflix.

997
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 4: I believe that they're going to do an offensive lineman

998
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 4: one because they've done quarterbacks. They did like the receivers

999
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 4: or yeah, it's coming out right, They're gonna do an

1000
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 4: offensive line in one, and that's gonna put offense limon

1001
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 4: on the map, because I think they're gonna finally realize

1002
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 4: that no disrespect, but most guys are pretty boring and

1003
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 4: offense linen are honestly fucking hilarious. The amount of characters

1004
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 4: that you get, it's like, uh, that ugly dude. So

1005
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 4: we've kind of been told that our whole life, and

1006
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 4: now we're gone. We're kind of cool around the cool

1007
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 4: guys and we everyone's kind of got money and we're

1008
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 4: playing professional sports, but we're still just like kind of

1009
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 4: like that fatgally like dude. So we're like we all

1010
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 4: automatically develop way better personalities where we have jokes like

1011
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 4: I don't know why. It's like every ovinse line has

1012
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 4: a joke. I don't know why, but that's just kind

1013
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 4: of like in our repertoire, and uh, I can definitely

1014
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 4: see that airing and then people kind of put an

1015
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 4: offense line on that, being like, these guys are unfucking

1016
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 4: believable and hilarious even when we're trying not to be,

1017
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 4: Like certain guys are super serious, and even by being

1018
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 4: super serious, you're super funny. It's just I don't know,

1019
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 4: it's just a thing.

1020
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 3: Who is your cast?

1021
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 4: I want to see Laramie Tunsel. He's probably pretty like.

1022
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 4: I also love his game, love him as a tackle.

1023
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 4: I think he'll be kind of like more of the

1024
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 4: cooler guy because he's got. He's definitely got some swagger

1025
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 4: to him and especially how he dresses, and he lives

1026
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 4: the good life, so that way you get one dynamic

1027
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 4: of him.

1028
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 2: The most famous, arguably podcaster is an offensive lineman and

1029
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: kel So. It's like, I'm not saying altins line are

1030
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 2: peeking right now, but yeah, holding someone in sports media

1031
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: twenty years ago that the biggest podcast would be you know,

1032
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: Lawan has got a huge podcast, and Kelsey. It's like,

1033
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: it's pretty crazy. The funniest dudes on the team are

1034
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 2: usually the offensive lineman and then the funny ass.

1035
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 4: D Tack was a d lineman because the other guy

1036
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 4: they're too worried about their image, like wide receivers dbs,

1037
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,479
Speaker 4: I gotta be cool, so I always gott to look cool,

1038
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 4: whereas like fat chubby Detacker, like I'm fat and chubby.

1039
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 4: I got paid a bunch of money to be fat

1040
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 4: and chubby, so it's gonna have a good old time.

1041
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 4: Like if I'm gonna eat this whole kike, I'm gonna

1042
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 4: eat this whole kick like not even something you're not

1043
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 4: even trying to be funny, but it's hilarious. Just how

1044
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 4: like the thought process of it I wish the Packers

1045
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 4: way back in the day we ever did a hard

1046
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 4: knocks because one, the amount of crazy, stupid acanine shit

1047
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,479
Speaker 4: that the offensive lineman would do probably would have gotten

1048
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 4: the Packers in trouble. To be frank, like, we just

1049
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 4: randomly go in, just get like tape a due up

1050
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 4: in milli meetings. The amount of times like just like

1051
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 4: the four jokes, dumb jokes like drawing dicks and like

1052
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 4: the white do this. Any other athletes you ever have

1053
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 4: on asked them what the funnest position meeting room is

1054
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 4: and if they don't know, that means he never left

1055
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 4: a meeting room, which automatically makes them boring. Or two.

1056
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 4: Many coaches will always say offense line room is the best,

1057
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 4: is the best room always going to. It's always the

1058
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 4: most fun, It's always most dynamic. We always had guests,

1059
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 4: Like anytime we had a guess if you ever came

1060
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 4: in it was your first time in there, you had

1061
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 4: to automatically leave. We had a rookie go take you

1062
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 4: out and said, what's your name? What school did you

1063
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 4: go to? He'd come back in. We turn off all

1064
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 4: the lights and then the lights would turn on and

1065
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 4: he'd have a microphone. He had to have a bottle

1066
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 4: in his hand, and he'd scream from the top of

1067
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 4: his lungs like back in w and'd be like and no,

1068
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 4: and he'd say his name in his school. And then

1069
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 4: we do this whole Da Dad, And we'd have this

1070
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 4: whole like take up like a good two minutes. And

1071
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 4: then the person that we just introduced they had to

1072
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 4: they had to tell us a joke. Then they can

1073
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 4: and if they came in for a cup of coffee

1074
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 4: to tell a coach one thing or whatever, like if

1075
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 4: this could be the head coach, this could be a scout.

1076
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 4: It didn't matter. The rules say the same for anybody.

1077
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe the GM could probably get away of it,

1078
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 4: but even the head coach had to succumb to to

1079
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 4: our rules. But that's what like the dynamic of our

1080
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 4: room is, and that's what made it.

1081
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 3: So much fun.

1082
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: I always felt like offensive linemen when I was covering

1083
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: the league and on the road.

1084
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 3: They were always the best people to talk to.

1085
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: They they knew every play, they knew every formation, they

1086
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: could give every answer, They were closest to the ball.

1087
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 3: They were the smartest guys in the room.

1088
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: If you wanted to know anything about what was going

1089
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: on with the team, you talk to the offensive lineman.

1090
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 4: I think what I love about it is that most

1091
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 4: linemen do pretty well post career, because we didn't really

1092
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 4: like fall in love with the idea of ourselves while

1093
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 4: we were playing. You know, most guys they come in

1094
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 4: the league and they're the individual and then they become

1095
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 4: this new star powered person and then the light shuts

1096
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 4: off on them and they're like, but what about me?

1097
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 4: You know, and then they kind of seem kind of

1098
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 4: clawing whorres line were like, Hey, we came in fat

1099
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 4: and ugly, whatever, We're going to do this thing, and

1100
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 4: then a were cool, we're out all right, Like I

1101
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 4: kind of was kind of I came in humble, I

1102
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 4: leave humble. That's majority of the linemen. They usually they

1103
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 4: come and kind of smike they don't. You don't really

1104
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 4: see very very many big egos, and that's what I

1105
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 4: appreciate a lot. Like I've had some really cool guys,

1106
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 4: some really just down to earth individuals that I've had

1107
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 4: the pleasure of working with over my career. And that's again,

1108
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 4: that's why I really think that I hope moving forward,

1109
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 4: I hope they shed some light on offense line because

1110
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 4: there are some hilarious individuals. The Eagles, he had the

1111
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 4: they just paid Dickerson and like, that's what I'm saying, Like,

1112
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 4: what did he say he want to do? What are

1113
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 4: you gonna do all your money, I'm gonna buy a lawnmower,

1114
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 4: MO my lawn. And they ends up coming out like, no, ship,

1115
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 4: that's what I'm gonna do. Like he bought a fucking

1116
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 4: lawnmower and he mode his line and then.

1117
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: You got one hundred messages that I look like him.

1118
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 4: I was like do I?

1119
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: And I looked at I was like, oh my god,

1120
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: I do look you know a little bit.

1121
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 4: I honestly a little bit.

1122
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 1: Biggest thrill, biggest thrill appearing with your teammates and pitch

1123
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: perfect too.

1124
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: Can you handle this?

1125
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 4: Stab? Can you handle this? Clay? Can you handle this?

1126
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 2: I don't think they can handle this.

1127
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 4: I don't.

1128
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 3: Pitch perfect two mm hmm.

1129
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: The attention you got for being able to chug a

1130
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: beer as an offensive lineman in Milwaukee, getting the bag

1131
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: as the highest paid offensive lineman in the history of

1132
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: the NFL.

1133
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 4: Come on, I'm close.

1134
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 3: Pitch perfect too. It's pitch perfect too, right.

1135
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 4: No, those two things are that's the limelight. Those are cool,

1136
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 4: but they're fleeting. Money ain't going anywhere.

1137
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: Let's by the way, you gotta be smart to make

1138
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: sure the money isn't going for.

1139
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 4: The most part, Like I mean, linemen are usually pretty chill,

1140
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 4: Like we buy lawnmowers. When I first made it the league,

1141
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 4: I got my first signing bonus. So we're gonna talk

1142
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 4: about being a young kid having money. The first thing

1143
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 4: I bought was ten pairs of Little Lemon underwear because

1144
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 4: I had holes in mind and I had never treated

1145
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 4: myself because I never gave a shit about clothes, and

1146
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 4: I was like, what did you do? I'm like, I

1147
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 4: bought brand new underwear that were really nice because I've

1148
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 4: never had nice underwear. I had shit that I had

1149
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 4: I got from my parents from Christmas back in like

1150
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 4: eighth grade, that I was still rocking all through college

1151
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 4: and then into the league. Like that's that's just what

1152
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 4: we are. Like it's funny, it's stupid, but like that's

1153
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 4: that's the kind of guys, and like there's a majority

1154
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 4: of them in that said position that I can characterize linemen,

1155
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 4: like a lot of us are like that.

1156
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 3: They're good BACTI Aari.

1157
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,560
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00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,399
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