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Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion.

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Speaker 1: That's the spirit we bring.

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Speaker 2: To this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat in the words of Brian Campbell

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Speaker 1: and horny French waiters everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Ah hal hal.

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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, welcome back. It is time for Morning Combat

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Speaker 1: on this April twenty fourth of twenty twenty three. My

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Speaker 1: name is Luke Thomas. I am one half of your

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Speaker 1: hosting duo. I join you from the capital of the

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Speaker 1: status of Nidos right here in Washington, d C. Joined

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Speaker 1: by the King of Connecticut and so much more. Keeping

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Speaker 1: the flame lit as best he could. He did a

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Speaker 1: great job. It's my friend in yours. It's Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: What's up, BC.

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Speaker 2: I'm holding on tight, Luke, to hold this show together.

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Speaker 2: Got back about eleven is last night. But you know

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Speaker 2: that's the life we choose, Luke, So I will say

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Speaker 2: I added up the days. It's been nineteen days since

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Speaker 2: Morning Combat has had a live episode with LTNBC. So Luke,

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Speaker 2: finally your most ardent p ones can get off my back,

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Speaker 2: because yes, you're getting your MMA and You're getting your

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Speaker 2: Luke Thomas all at once, right now? Okay, well, yes.

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Speaker 1: I think the more important story is you're getting a

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Speaker 1: full strength show. Really the show we come together like

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Speaker 1: Voltron and make something greater. It's more than the sum

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Speaker 1: of its part. So full strength show, and boy do

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Speaker 1: we have a show for you today. Of course we're

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Speaker 1: going to get to Davis Garcia, which was the crown

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Speaker 1: jewel of the Combat Sports weekend. But there was actually

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Speaker 1: a lot that went down we helldo. We had the

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Speaker 1: the Biltore bands away, Grand Prix come to a absurd

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Speaker 1: and amazing conclusion, Liz Carmousch defended her title, and of

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Speaker 1: course Sergei Pavlovich con continues to just be a marauder

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Speaker 1: in the heavyweight division. We're going to get to all

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Speaker 1: of that. Maybe Nate d has a street fight a

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Speaker 1: little bit too, and a whole lot more so. Thumbs up.

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Speaker 1: I had a great vacation. I'm back. I know you're

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Speaker 1: feeling not rested. I'm feeling pretty good. We came back

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Speaker 1: late Saturday night. I didn't put my kid to bed

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Speaker 1: fully until two am on Saturday night. Wow, because of

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Speaker 1: all the all the travel issues. Well, we got to

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Speaker 2: But did you did you happen to see any BFFs

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Speaker 2: on the trip? Luke? I mean or forever? No, I

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Speaker 2: guess I meant to say, bbl's is really where my

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Speaker 1: Well was you know? I gotta tell you, Brian, if

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Speaker 1: It's not that you don't have to go looking. They

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Speaker 1: I did. I had a great time. Dude. I cannot

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Speaker 1: believe this. I told this story to you as soon

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Speaker 1: great trip.

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Speaker 2: That's that's great, Luke. That's that's probably the furthest uh.

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Speaker 1: This is great. Hey, I did get you a gift

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Speaker 1: I could get Brian Campbell? That would be like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I didn't bite in Carto Regina. That's not a place.

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Speaker 2: And I was all right, all right, sir, the sex

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Speaker 1: so let's kick things off with topic number one, and

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Speaker 1: number one. Tank Davis Gervante. Tank Davis defeated Ryan Garcia

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Speaker 1: this win affirmatively put Tank Davis into the boxing current

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Speaker 2: I talked about it on the postfight show on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear your takes on this fight, Luke.

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Speaker 2: But everything changed with that knockdown in the second round.

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Speaker 2: It is because you know, maybe some of the recent

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Speaker 2: they were trying to outmaul him, outphysical him. Ryan was

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Speaker 2: interesting because Tank was really having to adjust to that

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Speaker 2: I mean, Ryan was gunshy to even get his jab

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Speaker 2: future the more he learns and all of that. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: Absolutely surgical. I got to tell you though, speaking to

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Speaker 1: I gotta say I thought that was exactly the opposite

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Speaker 1: a terrible game plan, a terrible game plan. Everyone tries

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Speaker 1: Obviously it's his timing and everything else. Dude, he is

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Speaker 2: And it just shows, you know, that the difference between

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Speaker 2: wide advantage on that. I mean, look, I give Ryan

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Speaker 2: I think part of what made this fight unique was

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Speaker 2: still give him credit for through the weight cut, through

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Speaker 2: all of that. But clearly, Luke, even with the positives

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Speaker 2: that Joe Goosen adds, he's still more hunter athlete than

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Speaker 2: he is pure boxer. And you know, is he young

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Speaker 2: enough to completely change and learn absolutely what is it

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Speaker 2: Could he be wired that way? Could Ryan Garcia become

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Speaker 2: I think ultimately in this fight he failed that audition.

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Speaker 2: And you know, now it's it's it's how bad does

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Speaker 1: All right, a couple of points. I want to answer

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Speaker 1: Estock Cruise fight in retrospect, dude, You go watch that.

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Speaker 1: I showed BC my notes when I broke that film down.

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Speaker 1: heavy punchers, getting backed up, learning how to juke, occupy

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Speaker 1: got a wake up call. Tank is a very complete

432
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 1: He's a unique boxer. He's not didn't throw a lot,

433
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 1: as we all know, but he is so unique and

434
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,679
Speaker 1: how sharp his counterpunching is, how devastating a puncher he is.

435
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,639
Speaker 1: And now add all these other elements, the juking, occupying

436
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 1: the jabhand, the left hook of Garcia was the right

437
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 1: hand was a much better weapon than this fight for

438
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 1: Garcia than the left. Now, answering about the knockdown, I

439
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 1: just listen. The reality is you have a big fight,

440
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna get bigger audiences. And when you get bigger audiences,

441
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna get much more casual takes. That isn't to

442
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 1: say that only casuals are saying that Ryan quit. There

443
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,200
Speaker 1: are people inside of boxing who were saying it as well.

444
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:58,439
Speaker 1: I simply don't really care, dude. Tank is arguably, you know,

445
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,399
Speaker 1: I mean, sub one hundred seventy pounds in boxing. I'm

446
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 1: not sure who the pound pound hardest puncher is, well,

447
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 1: maybe less than that. He does a punch like Canelo.

448
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 1: But certainly you know Tank's power is enormous and carries

449
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 1: up several weight classes and already has as he's moved through.

450
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 1: He is a He is a fiery, as I mentioned before, merciless,

451
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: unforgiving puncher. But the truth of the matter is, like

452
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 1: you get hit with a body shot like that, it

453
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 1: looks like Ryan was choosing to stay down because he

454
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,679
Speaker 1: simply didn't want it anymore. There might be something to that,

455
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: but BC, you got to give Ryan some credit. Pardon

456
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: me here. This guy the entire time has wanted to

457
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,919
Speaker 1: be great. Oh, this guy, this entire time has called

458
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 1: down the thunder. This guy this entire time wanted the

459
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 1: smoke and he got it, and it proved to be

460
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 1: a little bit too much for him. I simply do

461
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 1: not buy knowing how devastating a puncher is. And by

462
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: the way, who was the last tall right hander that

463
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: Davis put down with a body shot. It's Mario Barrios

464
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: who he did it to up a weight class, ladies

465
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Speaker 1: and gentlemen.

466
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 2: In a close fight on the car in a close fight.

467
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Speaker 1: The idea that like, dude, if you go, if you

468
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: watch the Barrios fight, nothing here is. Oh, they're not

469
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 1: the same boxers, but in terms of body dimensions and

470
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: stance dimensions, nothing is really all that different, and they

471
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 1: ended in virtually similar circumstances. Dude, Ryan Garcia got hit

472
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 1: with a shot that would make the rest of you

473
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 1: piss blood and cry.

474
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 2: Oh, there's no question about that.

475
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Speaker 1: So my point is, could he have gotten up? We

476
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: have no way of knowing. Here's how we'll know. Here's

477
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: how we'll know. How does he respond to this? What

478
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: does he show us that idea that this means he's

479
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: automatically a quitter? I simply do not accept.

480
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Speaker 2: So I don't bring that up in the way that

481
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 2: that you'd assume I do, which is the natural knee jerk.

482
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 2: And by the way, Oscar de la Hoy went through

483
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 2: the same thing in the Bernard Hopkins fight Diddy Quit.

484
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 2: Is he not tough enough? I'm not. I'm not gauging

485
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Speaker 2: Ryan's toughness in this questioning because as you said, he

486
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 2: you know, was he ready for Tank on like an

487
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 2: experience level, or you know, had he beaten enough guys

488
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 2: that you would have wanted him to before fighting Tank?

489
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: In reality? No, but this is the way it went,

490
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 2: and we got this great fight and that's because of him.

491
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 2: So no, I don't question that. I wonder more about

492
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 2: like because you know the no one no nowhere are

493
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: there more cynical people than on boxing Twitter. And I

494
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 2: think the knee jerk reaction from people on there were like, oh,

495
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 2: this shows that you know, if he could have gotten

496
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 2: up and didn't, this shows that he's like he doesn't

497
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,239
Speaker 2: want this, you know, like he won't be in this

498
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 2: sport for the long haul. And I disagree with that.

499
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 2: My question is, though, Okay, you know, because they're strategic ways,

500
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 2: like you said, if if he just knows look, you know,

501
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 2: I'm worn down, I'm hurting here. If I get up,

502
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 2: he's gonna headhunt and you know he could take me

503
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 2: out and hurt me. Let me preserve myself for the future.

504
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: Well there's you know, certainly some potential smarts in that.

505
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: I guess I do have questioning about, Like he wants

506
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 2: to be a star, he's tough as nails, he was

507
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: willing to fight to get this fight. All that stuff

508
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: is great. Could you see him at twenty four learning

509
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: from this in the same way Let's say Canelo did

510
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: against Floyd where I mean Canelo raised his game from

511
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 2: a technical aspect, you know, like not night and day,

512
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: because Canelo was always a thoughtful counterpuncher and you know,

513
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 2: the not the Chaves mold, but dude, he became a

514
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,239
Speaker 2: technician after losing to Floyd. It was a wake up

515
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 2: call in a lot of ways. Do you think that

516
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 2: same wake up call is in there for Ryan or

517
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 2: is this just his style? He's a gunslinger, that's who

518
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: he is.

519
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: So I think it can be. But there was something

520
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 1: I heard, and it was you know, I didn't hear

521
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: everything pre fight because I was on vacation. I tried

522
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: to pick up what I could, but I did see

523
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: one place where Joe Goosen was talking about how when

524
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 1: he works with Ryan, you know, he doesn't tell Ryan

525
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 1: what to do, that it's more of a collaborative effort.

526
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: Didn't love that. Didn't love that. I'm not in the

527
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: training room, and certainly I want to be very clear,

528
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: like Joe Goosen is the guy if Ryan wants to

529
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: be a champion, who I think can take him there.

530
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: I have enormous respect for what Joe Gooson can do,

531
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: what he has done, and who he is. But even

532
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: as good as Joe gooson is it doesn't matter if

533
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: the other person doesn't want to let you in. You

534
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: have to want to be coached, you have to want

535
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: to be changed. And it sounds to me if you're

536
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,719
Speaker 1: collaborating with the guy and he's this technically far behind

537
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: his opponent in this particular case, again this ain't Javier Fortuna,

538
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: then I think that dynamic needs to change. He needs

539
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: to be a student again, not like I mean, you

540
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: should collaborate when you're in your like early to mid thirties,

541
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: when it's already very clear what skills you have, but

542
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: maybe you can sort of like, you know, you can

543
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: ask for advice here and pick up something there, and

544
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: you work out the details, and that's what it is.

545
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: Ryan is still, I think, fairly far behind in his

546
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: development relative to the guys he's got his sights on,

547
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: So can he be that time is on his side.

548
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: I do think athletics, he's got plenty of it. Clearly

549
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: he's got firepower as well in the right circumstance. But

550
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: between the footwork, some of the choices, you know, giving

551
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: up his height and reach by walking the guy down

552
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 1: into that range where it made it possible, He's got dude,

553
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: He's got stuff to work on, and that's if he

554
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: wants to be who he is in his mind, and

555
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: I think he can be, but there has to be

556
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: an attitude change about where he actually is right now

557
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: in order to get to right over there.

558
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: I think he's got enough of a fighter's heart where

559
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 2: you know he's going to come back and you know,

560
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: could he win a world title. Absolutely, But he is

561
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: in the midst of this group of four Princes or

562
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it, this young era of

563
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: guys in one thirty five and one for who have

564
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: the potential to be like superstars, and a lot of

565
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 2: those guys are absolute technicians, right, So you know, think

566
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 2: the shake Kher Stevens, since the Devin Haines, those type

567
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 2: of guys. So you do wonder what this does to

568
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: Ryan's identity moving forward. But I think he's back, and

569
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: I think he comes back in a big way. Uh.

570
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: I love the I mean, you love everything it took

571
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: for him to get into this fight. But Luke and hindsight,

572
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 2: was the ten pound rehydration clause effector.

573
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: I think it was. I think it was. I don't

574
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say. I think it definitely drained him,

575
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: not so much like in the moment per se, but overall,

576
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: I just you know, he even said afterwards, I'm gonna

577
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 1: go to one forty, like well, he didn't even hesitate,

578
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: He wasn't like, eh no, he was I'm going to

579
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: one for he's a one forty fighter, right, like we

580
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: should just say it. He's a one forty five. He

581
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 1: has been at one thirty five guy at times, but

582
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: really his best weight class, he's a one forty fighter.

583
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: So he wanted if I take down a weight class.

584
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: You know, he signed the contract. It is what it is.

585
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: I think it probably had some effect, I do. The

586
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: problem with that argument is, even if it's true, and

587
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: I think I think that it is, the level of

588
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: skill difference means that Tank probably would have won that

589
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: one regardless. And you go, oh, well, he would have

590
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: had better punching resistance. Maybe maybe, But the reality is, dude,

591
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 1: Tank barely got touched in this fight. And I want

592
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: to folks, to go back to the most important stat

593
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: in this whole fight. Through two rounds, Tank landed four

594
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: punches and Ryan still hit the canvas. Right. That only

595
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: happens when you've got, yes, a dynamic puncher, but when

596
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: he's hitting you, when you are cleanly wide open, that

597
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: is when I want to be clear that Ryan was

598
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: getting hit when he was wide open, and the window

599
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: for that is small. But against a guy like Tank,

600
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: that's all that guy needs, dude, he doesn't need a

601
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: huge window. He's Aaron Rodgers in his prime, finding the

602
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: core the wide receiver at the narrowest of windows in

603
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: the end zone. Yeah, those guys can do stuff like that,

604
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: So you know, I for me, it's like, I think

605
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: the rehydration clause did play a role. They didn't put

606
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: it in there by accident, but you just got stopped

607
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: earlier than you probably would have. Tank was gonna win

608
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: that one ten times out of ten.

609
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: Right, And the problem was always going to be for

610
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: Ryan Luke that you know, we saw how getting knocked

611
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: down and a lot of credit for getting right back

612
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: up and have you know, and he didn't have he

613
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: didn't have jangee legs afterwards. I mean, he was like

614
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: right back in it. But if if he would have,

615
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: let's say he had more gas in the tank or

616
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: more energy or whatever. But if you go after Tank,

617
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: even with the dynamic attack, dude, that does speed up

618
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: the process of getting you out of there, and you know,

619
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: for for anything, of trying to diagnose that single body

620
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: shot that dropped him and could he have gotten up

621
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: and all that. Like Tank had put a lot of

622
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: work to the body of the previous rounds to set

623
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: that up.

624
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,239
Speaker 1: It went a little bit unnoticed on the broadcast. And

625
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: I love those guys. They're trying to call a million things.

626
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: You know, you can't get them all right, But definitely

627
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: I want to point out Tank was working that body

628
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: up until that ko right would have happened. Also, I

629
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: want to point out something about Tank dude. Like we'll

630
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about David Morel when he he

631
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: beat the hell out of Falcal in the comin event,

632
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: which was the last bit of replacement. But BC, I

633
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: want to point out something. I'm coughing up my lungs.

634
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: I got sicken in Columbia, by the way, so that sucked.

635
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: But what I want to point out is look at

636
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: when Tank finds the opening. He finds it when his

637
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: opponents are attacking this fight against Garcia, Rollie Romero lunging in,

638
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: when did he get stopped right in the middle between

639
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: his punches, Mario Barrios between his punches Leo Santa Cruz

640
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: between his punches. Dude, he gets these guys on the attack,

641
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: the idea that more attack, even if Garcia would have

642
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: been fresher to do, that would have been the problems. Like, Dude,

643
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: your attack is not so much your problem. Your problem

644
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: is your defense. Your defense is simply not really up

645
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: to speed. And the way he puts himself in position

646
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: to attack against a guy that's good is not up

647
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: to speed. That's the problem. So like, yeah, he got

648
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: drained from that weight cut and everything else, but the

649
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: levels levels everybody Tank was several several above him BC

650
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: to that point, let's talk all about what's next for Tank.

651
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: So this put him in a very exalted spot as

652
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: a star in boxing, but it now puts a little

653
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: bit of competitive pressure on him about which next fight

654
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: to take. And that's always been there for Tank, but

655
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: now it's really ratcheted up because we've got an upcoming

656
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: bout in the same division between Devin Haney and Vasilli

657
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: Lomachenko for all the belts. So the question is what

658
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: does Tank do next? Does he fight the winner of

659
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: Hane Loma, does he fight Shaker Stevenson And to what extent,

660
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: are any of those guys, Yes, a tougher matchup, but

661
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: in particular in what ways makes them a tougher matchup

662
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: for Tank?

663
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 2: Well, look outright, first and foremost, Devin Haney and Shaquurz

664
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 2: Stevenson are there are tough, very tough matchups for Tank.

665
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: Like they are very tough because you know, in the

666
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: case of Hani, you've got size and length on Tank,

667
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: and you know, just a full a complete game and

668
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: a full understanding of distance control and you know, the

669
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: purest purity of boxing. I mean sometimes Hani can get

670
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: young Floyd comparisons in some of those you know elements

671
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: of the game. And obviously Shakuerz Stephenson's just different all together.

672
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: He is like, you know, if anyone would ever deserve

673
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: a comparison to Floyd, when Shaker gets it, I don't

674
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: cringe because you're watching a southpaw who may not have

675
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: the power but has next level everything else. I would love, love,

676
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 2: love to see both of those against Tank, and it's

677
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: and see how you know, if that forces him to

678
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: throw more punches or if his power can you know,

679
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: discipline them in some ways. I mean, look, those are

680
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: tough matchups on paper, right, now, But are they likely

681
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: coming off of this even if this pay per view

682
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: does great numbers that people are expecting, and there's that

683
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: potential for ripple effect of hey, some of those stars,

684
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: did you know watch what Ryan just did? Should we

685
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: follow that? I don't think that means automatically we're getting,

686
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: you know, the winner of Haini Lumachenko against Tank next,

687
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: or that anyone's even going to try to pursue that

688
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: at the moment. The good news how we sort of

689
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: you know, look, all these guys are gonna move up

690
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: to one forty before it's all said and done, so

691
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: we already understand that. But I think the good news

692
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: is there are it's such a deep pool right here that,

693
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: like you know, Shakr Stevenson wants the winner of Haini

694
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: Loman So if that's if that's a path depending on

695
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: Haney's contract situation and where he's going to be, that's amazing.

696
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: What about on this side of the bracket, Luke, As

697
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: we see Garcia moving back up to one forty, we

698
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 2: know tail Femo's there at one forty, he's gonna fight

699
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: Josh Taylor. Ramerez is still there, so they may be

700
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: all locked up. What do you think about the idea?

701
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: Because I know nobody likes my many pacio idea, even

702
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: though I think it's freaking brilliant and I would be

703
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: willing to defend that if people didn't think I was crazy.

704
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: What about we start building toward Tank against Frank Martin.

705
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: Oh, I hadn't even thought about that.

706
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: Oh shit, right, Like, god, dude.

707
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: That is a sick fight. Wow, dude, I hadn't even

708
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: thought about Frank Martin. Wow. Wow. I love that fight.

709
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: I love that fight. That's a great and they're both

710
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: under PBC, so you could make it relative.

711
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: Boy.

712
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, though, Man, that's a tough fight

713
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: for for Frank. A tough fight either way. A tough

714
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: fight either way. But you'd favorite that's a great idea BC.

715
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: But Frank's rugged. He fights so well on the inside, Perion.

716
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: I mean like he's got, he's he can box, like

717
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 2: he's you know, he's I mean he's got, He's got

718
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: Derek James in his corner, and there's only you know,

719
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: three men in the world. I can say that professionally

720
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 2: right now for a reason. So yeah, that would be

721
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: a hell.

722
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: Hell, that's a that's a that's a tough fight for

723
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: Frank and that's a risky fight for Sorry, that's a

724
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: tough fight for Frank Martin and a risky fight for

725
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 1: Tank Davis. I love that idea, though, Dude, that would

726
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: be a you want to talk about testing those guys

727
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: and they've got both those guys have like great fight

728
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: IQ boy, you'd be testing it. You'd be testing it.

729
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: You make any mistake against one of those guys, you

730
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: will pay for it. Frank Martin has one of the

731
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: best pull two counters in the game. I love that, IDELBC.

732
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: Jump back on what I was talking about there, and

733
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: you and I were talking about this over text. How

734
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 2: tough are is the idea? And no disrespect to Lomachenko,

735
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: who's obviously in this mix too, But if we're talking

736
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: about Haini and Shakur like tanks on the puff for

737
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: pound level with them, But would you favor them to

738
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 2: beat him or would it be the other way around? Man,

739
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: those are some interesting fights to think about.

740
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you. I'll tell you this both. Getting

741
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: back to what I said about Yan Garcia, He's like, oh,

742
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: I gave him too much respect. No opposite problem, you

743
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: didn't have enough, Haney and Shakur are in theory bad

744
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: matchups for him. And the reason I think that's true

745
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: is because both of those guys are absolutely surgeons with

746
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: their distance. They are clever with their setups, but more

747
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: to the point, they've got the footwork, They've got the

748
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: ring craft to be able to touch and go. None

749
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: of those guys are gonna be able to put Tank

750
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: Davis's lights out, and should be very clear they wouldn't

751
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: even try, Like Stevenson couldn't do it, and neither could Hani,

752
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: but they definitely have enough to frustrate Tank, land on

753
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: him and exit, especially against a guy in Tank who,

754
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: as we've said, doesn't throw a lot. Now with Hani,

755
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: the counter to that is that I've seen him get

756
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: hit in a twelve round bout and get rattled under duress,

757
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: and I do think that Tank would land on him

758
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: and land on him big. I think the Hani Tank

759
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: one would be real close. But you can see stylistically

760
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: how Hani would give him problems. Something akin BC, something

761
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: slightly akin to Canelo ARISLANDI Laura a little bit, a

762
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: little bit of that where you got to chase the

763
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: guy down and he's rotating on the out, so there's

764
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 1: a little bit of that on the other side though Stevenson.

765
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: Stevenson has no hope of knocking out Take. By the way,

766
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: we should say the Tank's got a pretty good chin too.

767
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: But the sharpness of movement, the sharpness of every detail

768
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: that Shakher Stevenson has, Yeah, dude, that's gonna give Tank

769
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: real genuine, hardcore problems, Make no mistake about it.

770
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 2: Do you think there's any like, like, Okay, win or

771
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: lose Lomachenko against hany Do you think there's any chance

772
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: a Lomachenko Tank fight whatever makes sense and everybody would

773
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: anyone would go after it.

774
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, I.

775
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: Love, we all would love to see it. But in

776
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: the business structure is that is that possible?

777
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: You would know more about the business structure side of

778
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: things than I would. But I think, like the thing is,

779
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: if he looks bad against Hani, maybe not, you know,

780
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: but if he looks, you know, something on the order

781
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: of what Dr Yanchenko looked against Triple G or something

782
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: where he had like, Wow, it was an inspiring fight

783
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: but you kind of lost in the end that I

784
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: think there would be an appetite for it. You know. Again,

785
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: whether top rank and PBC could make a deal. I

786
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: simply don't know, but yes, there could be ways where

787
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: that's both an interesting fight and also one of the

788
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: public would have an appetite for. But people were asking

789
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: me like, oh, is Shakur or you know, the winner

790
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: of Loma hany next? It's like, no, I think Tank's

791
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: going to take at least one fight in between any

792
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: other major step up in competition, maybe maybe two.

793
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: You know, well, Pitbull Cruz keeps winning and keeps calling

794
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: out Tank, so you know that wouldn't be my first choice,

795
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: but that's you know, that's certainly also going to be

796
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: out there. Do you like the idea of Ryan Garcia

797
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: and Tao Femo one day at.

798
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: Yes, But even as suspect is Tao has looked since

799
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: beating Lomachenko, I still think he levels above Garcia.

800
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I agree.

801
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: So it's like, I think Garcia needs to take a

802
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: tune up fight next. I know he doesn't want one.

803
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: He probably wants to go right back into the smoke,

804
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: but I think it's really important both to get his

805
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: confidence back and to continue to work on some of

806
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: the things that are holding him back. He's got some

807
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: of the great things that you need, but not enough

808
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: of the other missing pieces to cover up, you know, like,

809
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: for example, Tank doesn't have a really high output, but

810
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: for all the other reasons he can kind of get

811
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: away with it. There's too much missing in Ryan's game,

812
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: I think right now for a Lopez fight to make

813
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: sense for him, especially coming off of this kind of stoppage.

814
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: But but Tayl can thump too, by the way, Like

815
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: Tao's not the hard hitter that Tank is, but he

816
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: can land on you. Oh yeah, So something to thinking about,

817
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 1: all right, before we close the book on Davis versus

818
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: Garcia quickly in the co main event. Now it was

819
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: a last minute replacement, but David Morel out of Cuba,

820
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: now Minnesota, of all places, he just absolutely wiped the

821
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: floor with the Almagucci Falcau. What can we really say

822
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: about this victory? Because he wants to fight with David Benavidez,

823
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: Benavidez wants a fight with Canelo. I'll say THISBC, I

824
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: would love to see Benavitez versus Canelo more than I

825
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: want to see morel versus Benavidez. But if we can't

826
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 1: get Canelo in that equation, I would be all too

827
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: happy to see Morel fight Benavidez. For folks who don't

828
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: know this, dude, David Morel or Morell might just be

829
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: the next big thing in boxing if he can get

830
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: the right matchups and keep going.

831
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: Dude, how I mean this division is already loaded and

832
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: offers us so much beyond what we just saw with

833
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: Plant Benavidez, which was great. If Jamal Charlo moves up soon,

834
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: you know, Demetrius Andred. We always just count down the

835
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: names that are available. But like Morell has gone from

836
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,479
Speaker 2: like dark Horse, you know, hey, he might turn into

837
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: something here to like I'm not sure he doesn't get

838
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: to the championship round and this you know, unofficial one

839
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: hundred sixty eight pound bracket as we start to narrow down, obviously,

840
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 2: the matchup we all want is Canelo versus Benavidez, and

841
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: if it could be made like right now, no problem,

842
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: and everybody wanted that, they would, Luke, but you know,

843
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: I just I feel like Canelo wants to bev all

844
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 2: fight more or first or whatever. Dude, Morel's gonna be

845
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: a problem for Benavidez. So there are levels to competition.

846
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: For sure.

847
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: Morel's only got nine profits. He's twenty five years old.

848
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 2: You know, he won that secondary title in his third profight,

849
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 2: Like he's already been daring to be great at a

850
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: like a Lomachenko level, yet without as big of an

851
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: amateur career that would give you the you know, the

852
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: balls to do something like that. I know that there's

853
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 2: levels to the guy. He just beat here in Idos

854
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: to your Bossiney, who he had you know, being and

855
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: injured really badly in the last fight. But every fight

856
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: he's jumping through your screen for like different reasons. You

857
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: remember last fight, it was like the defense and the

858
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 2: quickness and all that sort of like showmanship to it,

859
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 2: and now it's just the absolute crushing one punch power.

860
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 2: But Luke, he's also a southball that can box with

861
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: some Cuban school background to him, like you add in

862
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: humble as a hard worker, but like Kacky in his

863
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: self belief, he loves to dance and sing and he

864
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: did karaoke with Acen Brock some reggaeton. Luke, I mean

865
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: this was like, this is a guy who wants to

866
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 2: be an absolute stud. Obviously it's a different level than

867
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: when you go in hell with Benavidez. But I'm here

868
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: to tell you, I think he's ready for that.

869
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: Hell.

870
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if he wins that fight, Luke, but

871
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: he's ready for it. And if Benavidez is about that life,

872
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: then maybe this is the fight we should focus on next,

873
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: because this would be a hell a hell of a matchup.

874
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't have much to add because there just

875
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: wasn't much to the fight. I don't know what's gonna

876
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: happen next. I find the idea that Morell will get

877
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: Benavidez next unlikely. I think it's probably the best way

878
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: to put it. But I just want to make one

879
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: note for the broadcast. For folks to take home from this,

880
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: please pay attention to the career of David Morrell Junior.

881
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: This dude iseed. That's how you say it, and where

882
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: he's from. Wright. All right, that's what I mean. What

883
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: do you want me to do? I don't make the rules, bro,

884
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: I don't make the.

885
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 2: No.

886
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: It's it's like you ever seen the movie Read Now,

887
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: I got in my head all messed up red Sonja Sonya? Yeah,

888
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: there you go, No one, says Arnold Schwarzenegger. Start in

889
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: red Sonya, just read Sonya or Bjeet Nelson too, was

890
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: in the movie. I think that was her.

891
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 3: Uh.

892
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: Anyway, this kid from Cuba, keep a close eye on him.

893
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: He is destined for very, very big things. All right,

894
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: let's tuck a little UFC topic number two. So we

895
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: go to UFC Vegas seventy one. Ah, the old Apex,

896
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: the place that everyone is absolutely sick of, but the

897
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 1: UFC keeps going back to. So we had a card

898
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: up there. It was funny PC. I always know that

899
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: I can skip things when I miss it, and then

900
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: I tweet like, hey, what did I miss from the

901
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: weekend's Apex card? And like two thirds of the reply

902
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 1: is nothing, don't watch, don't bother. It's like, God, damn,

903
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: that card must have sucked. But all right, Uh, the

904
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 1: main event definitely pretty intriguing. Sergey Pavlovich just absolutely runs

905
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: over Curtis Blades BC. I want to talk about Curtis

906
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: Blades on some of the decisions he's made, but we

907
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: got to celebrate the winner here first. Sergei Pavlovich, what

908
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: is this now? Six fights in a row where he's

909
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: dusting people off inside the first round something abside that's

910
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 1: the UFC record. Yeah, what do you make of what

911
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: kind of threat he is. And I want to point

912
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: this out or at least put it to you. Does

913
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: a fight with John Jones make any sense? Oh?

914
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense. I mean, look, John Jones is

915
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: going to get the tough matchup, the historical elements of

916
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 2: fighting Stipe, which could very well be Stepe's last fight,

917
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: and that's great. But if he wants to hang on

918
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 2: this heavyweight title, it's gonna be quickly about who's next,

919
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: right Aspinall's coming back from injury, and Pavlovich has just

920
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: earned a title shot in my opinion, I mean, what

921
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: else would he have to do? These are you know,

922
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 2: up and down the six names. There's some big names

923
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: on there that jump out at you. And this is

924
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 2: like very Shankarwin like who you know, they couldn't avoid

925
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: and got him into the title picture. Here is he

926
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 2: good enough where where we can make like serious talks

927
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,479
Speaker 2: about him being a threat to John Jones? Well, power, yes,

928
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: But I kind of like to some degree that we

929
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 2: don't actually know those other answers. I would have loved

930
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: as you are probably about to say that Blades shot

931
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: more and really tried to show us what are Pavlovitch's

932
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 2: limitations outside of that early knockout loss yet to overarim.

933
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: But since then, six straight names in the first round,

934
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: we didn't really get that. But considering he's got the

935
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 2: same reach as John Jones, and considering he seems to

936
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 2: have the type of power we're just even touching you,

937
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: starts to change the momentum of the fight. Yeah, dude,

938
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: of course, man, I mean, this is a This would

939
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: be a hell of a fun challenge to see the

940
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 2: great John Jones decode and and you know, try to

941
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: try to, you know, try to try to blow him

942
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: up in front of everybody, and you know, and take

943
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 2: him down and wear him out. But I don't know

944
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 2: if you get there, I don't know. Oh look, we

945
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: haven't seen enough to know, but we've seen enough to

946
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 2: know too much that it's time. It's freaking time right now.

947
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: See here's the thing. I just don't find that fight

948
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: very likely, right, I mean, the problem is, like Serge

949
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: is doing things that are like almost in GNU esque,

950
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: I mean, not quite the same. Like that, you know,

951
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: that sending Oveream's head into orbit the way he did

952
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: is you know, not exactly what happened here, So you

953
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: don't get the same kind of appeal and also, like

954
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: you know, put him on these APEX cards. They're not

955
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: doing a whole lot for his star power. To be

956
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: perfectly honest with you, like he's just sort of quietly

957
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: putting together these amazing win streak, but there's just no

958
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: juice to it, Like why would John Jones. I mean,

959
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: maybe John Jones wants to fight all these new guys,

960
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: but I have a feeling he just wants to fight

961
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: any guy with a name and then be done. And

962
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: Pavlovich is an interesting test, but he's not an interesting

963
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: name in so far as John Jones is concerned.

964
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: Do you really believe if John like submits Stipe in

965
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: the second round or something that like that's it. I mean,

966
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: I just if John has his way with Stepe after

967
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 2: like absolutely dominating, gone, dude, He's gonna watch this tape

968
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 2: on Pavlovich and go, Okay, hits hard, Okay, interesting with

969
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: this long reach. But I'm John Jones. I'm gonna calf

970
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: kick the shit out of this guy. I'm gonna shoot in.

971
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I'm gonna I mean, I'm the

972
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: name John Jones still carries a lot of critical merit here, Luke,

973
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 2: especially in this division. You're not walking away from this.

974
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: Come on. He looks at this guy and says, let

975
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 2: me gass him the frick out. At least give John

976
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: that respect.

977
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: It's not even that, It's not that I don't think

978
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: John could win. It's not really that. It's that, you know,

979
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: Stepe is what forty or right at it, you know,

980
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: and Gone is not but has a very lopsided game,

981
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: I think is a good way to put that, and

982
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: so but but also had a bit of a name

983
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: in the division, So like there's some value to beating

984
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: him and and everything else. Pavlovich's thirty has the same

985
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: reach as him, hits like an absolute fucking mac truck,

986
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: and beating him gets you only credibility with you know,

987
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: a thousand hardcores on Twitter, like and by the way,

988
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: I just want to point out something too, like, you know,

989
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: John looked flawless against God for however long that lasted.

990
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: But in this game with four ounce gloves, just a

991
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: very minor error can be catastrophic, especially at heavyweight, it

992
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 1: can be catastrophic. You just it's a it's a lot

993
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: of risk for very little reward. Given the mantle of

994
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: John Jones and what he's built to this point. I'm

995
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: not saying it's not an interesting fight for you or me,

996
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: or perhaps he.

997
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: Might have a chance to fight. He might have a

998
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: chance to fight Aspinall in like a soccer stadium in

999
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 2: front of eighty thousand people one day, defending the title.

1000
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: That's a little different. Aspinall's got a name, Aspinall's got

1001
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: a country behind him. It's a little different. That's a

1002
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: little different. Like again, it's it's it's not one ingredient

1003
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: or the other, it's sort of the combination of them.

1004
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: And I think the combination of of Saragai makes him

1005
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: an interesting challenge on a very technical level. But beyond that,

1006
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,479
Speaker 1: and in terms of fight promotion or what John wants

1007
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: to risk, like what are you gonna give up? What

1008
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: are you gonna get for it? I don't know that

1009
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: Pavlovitch really scratches that itch. But the bigger point to

1010
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: me is, here's the interesting thing about this fight that

1011
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: I really took away from Curtis Blades, like everyone's gonna

1012
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: kill him for his decision making. Where he shot I

1013
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 1: think one time, maybe maybe twice or something like hardly

1014
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: at all, right, and then when then the one shot

1015
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 1: that he did get stuffed. It was a very half

1016
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: assed shot. It wasn't even like a really great one

1017
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 1: on the feet. If you actually go back and watch,

1018
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: Curtis drills him with a right hand clean several times. Yeah,

1019
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: several times he lands on him hard and Pavlovitch just

1020
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 1: kind of ate it. I can understand why Curtis thought, ah,

1021
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: I don't need to wrestle this guy. I can fucking

1022
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: drill him whenever I want. But it goes back to

1023
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: the point I just made that those things were real,

1024
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: Like he was landing pretty effectively. But Pavlovitch has a

1025
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: very sneaky upper cut where he starts this way and

1026
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: then it kind of shoots up and it caught him

1027
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: right between his guard. He wasn't expecting it at all.

1028
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: This is what I mean, slight little errors. They can

1029
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: just be very, very very costly. So you know, I

1030
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: do think that Curtis Blades probably would rethink his game

1031
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: plan if he had a second opportunity. On the other hand,

1032
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: I just want to give him a little bit of

1033
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: credit and say, I can understand why he thought he

1034
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: might have been better on the or safer I should say,

1035
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: on the feet than he actually was.

1036
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it's tough. He's so talented and he's and

1037
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 2: he's essentially becoming the title level gatekeeper bridesmaid at every turn.

1038
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: Some of the decision making hasn't been great. I mean,

1039
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: you could go that route here and critique of him,

1040
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: but I hate to see that because I know how

1041
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: Hardy works. But in how long he You know, he's

1042
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 2: got to come back from some disastrous losses and regroup

1043
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: and then sometimes looks fantastic in doing so. But man,

1044
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 2: this was rough, Luke, this was rough, But I didn't

1045
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: want you to close the chapter on John Jones. I

1046
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 2: have to ask you this question. Do you think it's

1047
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 2: because we did not get striking heavyweight answers to the

1048
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: John Jones how will they look at heavyweight question? Against God?

1049
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: Is that holding you back from believing that that John

1050
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 2: could mop up this division and then would and then

1051
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: would be willing to want to do so?

1052
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: Maybe a little, maybe a little. John's got a great chin.

1053
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: Over the course of his career, It's been tested a

1054
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: few times and he has been, in large part pretty

1055
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: good about it.

1056
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: He has a legendary chin. Could we give him that respect?

1057
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: I mean, that's he's he's you know, he doesn't put

1058
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: it out there as to be touched all the time,

1059
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:36,959
Speaker 1: but when it gets hit, he has done quite well,

1060
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 1: and he keeps his composure, and obviously he has done successfully,

1061
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: has performed quite successfully. I just feel like he's glory hunting.

1062
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: And I don't mean that. There's plenty of criticisms you

1063
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: can make of John, this is not one. I just

1064
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: think he's glory hunting. I think he's hunting big name targets,

1065
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: big name opponents, big name opportunities. What's the minimal amount

1066
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: of work I can do at the most maximum gain,

1067
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: and beating Gone was one of them. If Francis had

1068
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: been there, that would have been a better one obviously,

1069
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 1: And then Stipe provides some value short of that. Who

1070
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: is the other person in this division that adds to

1071
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: that particular calculus in a meaningful way. I don't really

1072
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: know the answer to that. I don't think that there

1073
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: is one. There are certainly tough challenges in front of him.

1074
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: Pavlovitch would be a tough one. And again, the striking

1075
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: part of it makes it interesting because they'll get the

1076
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: reach in his power and how unforgiving it is. I

1077
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,959
Speaker 1: just don't feel like John is in a space where

1078
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: he's like, I want to prove how good I am

1079
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: against the current field of contemporary heavyweights. I think what

1080
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: he wants is show me the biggest game that I

1081
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: can hunt with two rounds on the savannah. That's who

1082
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: he wants. And it's those two guys. And probably it.

1083
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: Looks like he's good in all. But what would he

1084
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 2: say about his twenties? I mean, really, you know, I mean,

1085
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: come on, what I could not disagree with you more?

1086
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: I think he would take I don't know, dude, I

1087
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 2: could I mean, he, dude, John's gonna fight Francis one

1088
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: day in the octagon. You are aware of this, right.

1089
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: If Francis gets back to the UFC. Yes, otherwise you know,

1090
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 1: so there.

1091
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 2: I think there's plenty for John to do. And I

1092
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: you know, I look, we don't know about dude. You

1093
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: have no idea how good Pavlovitch is. We have no idea.

1094
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: I mean, he's pretty damn scary, but we have no

1095
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 2: idea how how championship good he is?

1096
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, what happens if he gets wrestled to

1097
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: his hands and then beat up on the ground or

1098
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: leg kicked and he can't jab you know.

1099
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 2: Oh, it goes Alexander Romanov the whole time, and he

1100
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: had the mask on. You know, It's like, yeah, that

1101
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 2: can easily happen, right.

1102
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can. He can unravel, you know, beating. So

1103
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: that's what happened to Francis before he fought step A, right,

1104
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 1: just bulldozing all these guys, and then he fights steep

1105
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: A and it's like, oh, right, he's totally underdeveloped, and

1106
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: then he had a second chapter two. Yeah, I mean, listen,

1107
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm excited about the future for Sergey Pavlovitch, especially after

1108
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: his very slow initial stort against Alistair Overeim and a

1109
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: guy who I've been skeptical about. I'm not really skeptical

1110
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: about in terms of at least that first round and

1111
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: how absolutely devastating and danger he is. I'm just and

1112
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: I would welcome a John Jones fight. I just don't

1113
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 1: think John's gonna give it to him, and I don't

1114
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: think John wants that kind of stuff. I guess we

1115
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: shall see.

1116
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, we should just get him on the

1117
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: show and have him answer the question directly to us.

1118
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: Luke right, I'm I'm sure he just loved to come

1119
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: right on and talk to me.

1120
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 2: And you. I'll go right to Dana. We'll book it

1121
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, that'll be fine. OK.

1122
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want you text Dana and tell him we

1123
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: need John on the show. See what he says with

1124
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: Curtis Blades. He's thirty two. It's certainly not over for

1125
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: him in any kind of respect. But it feels to

1126
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: MEBC he was a guy who's been you know, obviously

1127
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: the wrestling is what kind of got him here for

1128
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 1: the most part, but more recently has been really working

1129
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: on his hands. I think he really wants to show that.

1130
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: I want to point out again he was landing really

1131
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: vicious shots on Sergei, who just kind of ate him, which,

1132
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: by the way, that won't last much longer either. But

1133
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: it almost looks to me like he's kind of forgotten

1134
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: the you know, that he's not dancing with the one

1135
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: that brought him here. Do you think he should begin

1136
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: to not like just go back to hardcore Matt Hughes

1137
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: wrestling only ground a pound, but maybe mixing it up

1138
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: a little bit more.

1139
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it didn't. It didn't look like he

1140
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 2: was in the best physical shape that we've seen of

1141
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 2: him in the past as well in this fight in particular.

1142
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 2: So I believe that's right because look, we've seen it

1143
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 2: a couple of times where he's trying to rely on

1144
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: his striking against elite ish strikers. Yeah, so if there

1145
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: is another run in him, it's like you look at

1146
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 2: his records, like damn. I mean, the losses are devastating,

1147
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 2: but they are spaced out. There's like four wins between

1148
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: each one. I mean, I mean, you're not gonna rush

1149
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: him and gone back against each other in a loser

1150
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 2: leafs title contention town match, right, No, right, No, I

1151
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 2: don't think so okay, okay, Yeah, then you know, yeah,

1152
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 2: there is another run in a rebuilding. And if that's

1153
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 2: the case, Luke, that he's got to lean on that strength, man.

1154
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 2: I mean, he can hurt the second level heavyweight to

1155
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 2: knock them out even but it is different at that

1156
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 2: elite level against the elite. I mean, the same thing

1157
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 2: I've been saying about for Tory too, Luke. It's like

1158
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 2: you do have to pick a lane that's your best

1159
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 2: strength and your best chance of you know, upsetting the

1160
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 2: field and winning the title and kind of leaning it

1161
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: and go after it if you're not going to be

1162
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 2: on the same all around level as these elite champions.

1163
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: I'll just say this, he's got a little bit of

1164
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: Michael Bisping in him now. Michael Bisping obviously broke through

1165
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: in the end, right he beat uh rock Hole, then

1166
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: got his revenge on Dan Henderson and subsequently lost, but

1167
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 1: he got the title, like he had that moment where

1168
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: everything finally came together and he broke through, albeit on

1169
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 1: short notice or whatever. It feels to me like Blades

1170
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: is kind of occupying the same space. He's going to

1171
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: beat most of these guys the vast majority of the time,

1172
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: but once he gets up to the upper tier, he

1173
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: just finds himself a little bit wanting and you know,

1174
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: in more devastating ways. Although way two of those losses

1175
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 1: are to Francis, but you know, you get the idea.

1176
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: I'm just sort of pointing out he's still thirty two.

1177
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: He's still a good athlete, a great athlete. He still

1178
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: has really good wrestling, and obviously I think his striking

1179
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: is better than folks are giving him credit, you know,

1180
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: despite the results here. But I also believe that, like

1181
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: there's still another gear he has to hit which he's

1182
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: not at in order to be able to be really

1183
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: competitive with the top tier of guys in this division.

1184
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 1: I think part of that gets back to a much

1185
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: more defensively minded game. He just seemed to also bec Again,

1186
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 1: everyone wants to beat everyone with firepower in this game,

1187
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: and you can do that under certain circumstances. But I'm

1188
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 1: going to just say I think defense is just criminally

1189
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: underrated across the board in combat sports and especially in

1190
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: MMA defense first offense second, for a lot of these guys,

1191
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: would I think give them better winning streaks? Yeah?

1192
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 2: John Jones is great defensively.

1193
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: Right, and he's a champion. I mean the two are

1194
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: not coincidence, to be very clear. Also from this card,

1195
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: let's talk about this point number three BC. Two more

1196
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: things on this UFC Vegas seventy one, car Oli, there

1197
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: was a really interesting thing that happened. Did you see

1198
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 1: the Semmelsburger and who did he fight? The Semmlsburger kid

1199
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 1: with Wells? Do you see the Semmelsburger Wells fight.

1200
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 2: I did not watch this fight.

1201
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 1: Semmelsburger base In the first like minute ninety seconds had

1202
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: Wells walloped through all three rounds, but then like the

1203
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: last three thirty of every round he got controlled and

1204
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: like not just control, but like beat up on the ground.

1205
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: So like one of the score they read the scorecards

1206
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: as follows, thirty twenty seven Wells, which you can understand, right,

1207
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: you can make sense of that isn't sound like the

1208
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: fight was close, but if each round was close, you

1209
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: can get there. Then another judge had it twenty nine

1210
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: to twenty eight for Semmelsberger, which you can also understand.

1211
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: You're like, okay, I can get how you thought that

1212
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: the first part of the round did better work than

1213
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: the last part of it in these two cases. And

1214
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: then the third judge had it thirty twenty seven back

1215
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: for Wells. So you had these really weird score cards

1216
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: about really really weird tests about how you judge. How

1217
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: do you judge a fight where one guy gets his

1218
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: ass kick for ninety seconds or you'll beat up pretty

1219
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: bad and dropped in many cases, but then it comes

1220
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: back and then stomps on the guy the rest of

1221
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: the round. It's really kind of strange. But that's not

1222
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:57,479
Speaker 1: what I want to ask you about. What I don't

1223
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: ask you about is what would be a fair outcome?

1224
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: And listen to the words I'm saying. What's a fair

1225
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: way to handle the situation between Bobby Green and Jared

1226
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: Gordon where a headbutt caused Gordon to collapse. He gets

1227
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: hit on the ground and polished off. They called it

1228
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: a no contest, but remember Chris Curtis didn't get the

1229
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: benefit of that against Kelvin Gastolum. So what's the right

1230
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: outcome here?

1231
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 2: I feel the right outcome is what they ended up

1232
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 2: doing looking at the video, you know, talking back and forth,

1233
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 2: not making a hasty decision, and then figure it out.

1234
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 2: That's not a fair way for a guy to lose

1235
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 2: the fight because they didn't see the follow in real time.

1236
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 2: Had they seen it, they would have stopped giving him

1237
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: the time to recover. Suddenly he's down in a vulnerable

1238
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 2: position and then getting beat up. Yeah, Luke, that can't

1239
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: be a win. So they got it right this time,

1240
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: no question about it. If you have replay and it's

1241
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 2: in the laws and you can use it, why wouldn't you?

1242
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 2: So all was good in this one.

1243
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: Okay, true, they got it right. I'm not mad at

1244
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: how they adjudicated it, but it's a really clear example

1245
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: of why the split between show and win money is

1246
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: just a travesty. In this game. You heard afterwards Bobby

1247
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: Greenby like, pay me my money. Yeah, dude, he's right.

1248
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: What did he do wrong? Are Yes, the head butt

1249
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: he did land but it wasn't. He clearly was not

1250
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: trying to head butt Jared Gordon. He led with his head.

1251
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: But they're South Paul orthodox, and we know that in

1252
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: boxing kickboxing, MMA doesn't matter. When you have open stance

1253
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: like that, you're gonna get clashes, head clashes because they're

1254
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: dipping to the same side a lot of the same times.

1255
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: Sure enough, it's what you got here as well. And

1256
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: I want to point out something in these guys contracts.

1257
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: I've seen UFC contracts. They don't break it down, win

1258
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: and show. They break down here's your purse, and then

1259
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: if you win, here's your bonus. They need to stop

1260
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: taking a purse, splitting it in half and then calling

1261
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: the second half of it a bonus. It's not a bonus.

1262
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: That guy's money.

1263
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 2: They're saying is if you don't handle your business and

1264
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 2: get the knockout, we'll just keep the extra money. You

1265
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 2: know what I mean, that's what they're saying. That's really it, okay.

1266
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: And then lastly, BC from the UFC seventy one Vegas

1267
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: card any thoughts on Bruno Silva and his first round

1268
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: stoppage over Brad Tavar's now Brad Tavares complaining that the

1269
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: stoppage was a little early. I think the referee was

1270
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: Dan Mergliata, if I'm not mistaken, and I went back

1271
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: and I watched it. It did look a little early.

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01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: It did look a little early, although Bruno Silva was

1273
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: certainly on his way. He had dropped Tavars with a

1274
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: hard right hand over the top and sent him packing there.

1275
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, any takeaways from this contest about what it

1276
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: means for Bruno Silva, who, by the way, folks might

1277
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: have remember this. You know, he didn't win, but he

1278
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: gave Poe a time. Alex Paeda a pretty respectable fight

1279
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,479
Speaker 1: before Panta fought. Is he the first time?

1280
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 2: I think when Paneda went in there against Izzy and

1281
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 2: if he, let's say, if Izzy would have knocked him

1282
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 2: out at the end of round what was it one

1283
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: or two when he had him really badly hurt. I

1284
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 2: wonder if we would have looked back and said, oh,

1285
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 2: that Bruno Silva fight was a more you know, accurate

1286
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 2: showcase the limitations of Padata. But it didn't go that way.

1287
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 2: But look, this is the comeback when he needed Luke.

1288
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 2: Apparently we do talk about Bruno and your household when

1289
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 2: it makes sense. But he had been on that knockout

1290
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 2: run against names we respect before that two fight, losing skids,

1291
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: so you know, we had reason to wonder if we

1292
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 2: have something here, his ability to reset and get that

1293
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 2: even with the questionabile stoppage in some ways, if you're

1294
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 2: going to be a threat still to this division, you

1295
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 2: got to handle a guy like Tavaris, and you know,

1296
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 2: look he handled him. So it was good to see

1297
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 2: him bounce back in that regard. There's still something to

1298
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 2: watch there.

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01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bruno Silva to me the fight against Padata, Yeah

1300
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: he showed himself to not be good enough to beat Patata,

1301
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: but like worthy adversary. Definitely a worthy adversary in that fight.

1302
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: And he's got a bit of a loose, open style.

1303
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how far he can carry that, but

1304
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: he's definitely dangerous. He is. He puts a lot of

1305
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: pressure on guys. He can strike from distance, very far.

1306
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: He can. You know, he obviously covers distance really well

1307
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: with his punches. He puts them together in combination. He's

1308
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: not afraid of contact. He's gonna beat some guys that

1309
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: I don't think folks who are necessarily expecting at least

1310
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: maybe now they might, but certainly up to this point

1311
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: they didn't super solid win by him. All right, let's

1312
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: talk about this one, because I got to tell you

1313
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: this was you could even argue not the biggest fight

1314
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: of the weekend, but maybe the best knockout in any

1315
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: main event anywhere in the world. How about this PATCHI mix?

1316
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: Is your bellatur Bantamweight Grand Prix champion does it by

1317
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: absolutely icing Ralphie On Statts in the first freaking round BC.

1318
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: He positionally dominates Kilji Hooragucci to win his first fight

1319
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: in the tournament, then inside of two submits Mega Man

1320
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: Mega Madoff, who's a hammer in this division, and then

1321
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: in his third fight, wins the whole show by completely

1322
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: dismantling a guy up to this point who has looked very,

1323
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: very good in Ralphaeon Statts. He now only obviously won

1324
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: all three he had to get to this point. What

1325
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying is he decisioned a good guy. He submitted

1326
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: a guy he Kota guy, and he did it quicker

1327
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: and quicker each time. On Patchi Mix has arrived, has

1328
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: he not?

1329
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,439
Speaker 2: Well? Dude, the fight before that run you talked about,

1330
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 2: he also submitted James Gallaher and it was a big

1331
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 2: wake up call of exactly where both is at. He's

1332
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 2: a steam train that that should not be messed with

1333
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 2: at the moment because it's not just the calling card

1334
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 2: of the submission game and how aggressively he goes after finishes.

1335
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 2: But he set to himself on the post fight interview

1336
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 2: afterwards with the work he's done in his striking to

1337
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 2: be able to you know, this was a move that

1338
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 2: they scouted that they knew Stotts had that tendency and

1339
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 2: to break it out, I mean, you know, early like

1340
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 2: that and it flows so perfect, the timing, the destruction.

1341
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 2: This is the best weight class in the world, and

1342
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 2: Bellator's had some you know, launching this tournament has had

1343
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 2: some good claim to the idea of like, you know,

1344
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 2: this is the best weight class in Some of the

1345
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 2: best in the world in this weight class are right

1346
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 2: here in this tournament. But dude, Patchy Mix is a

1347
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 2: problem for anybody globally right now. You see the the

1348
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 2: five straight wins since his only career loss in that

1349
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 2: title fight, with Archiletta, the vacant title bout in which

1350
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 2: you know, he kind of gassed out, and that was

1351
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 2: the early hurdle he had to clear in that regard.

1352
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 2: Now that he's putting the entire game together, he's a

1353
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 2: threat to finish you on the top or the bottom.

1354
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 2: His confidence is through the roof. He's part of one

1355
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 2: MMA's best power couples of the moment, Luke. That don't

1356
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 2: get a lot of love and respect between what him

1357
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 2: and tatianas Ar Suarez are doing in their own careers.

1358
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 2: But dude, he's like a I mean, this guy is

1359
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 2: coming in like the bad guy in a movie and

1360
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 2: just icing people. We got to wake up to how

1361
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 2: great he.

1362
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:36,439
Speaker 1: Is, Luke.

1363
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 2: And when you look at this title picture coming off

1364
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 2: of this tournament, the fact that the full champion, Sergio

1365
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 2: Pettis is going to be defending against the greatest champion

1366
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 2: in bellat Our history, Patricio Pipoll coming up and the

1367
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 2: winner's got to fight mix. Dude, this is going to

1368
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 2: be some fun theater. But also this is going to

1369
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 2: give Patchy Mikes a chance to actually make the claim

1370
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 2: that he's the best man and white fighter in the world.

1371
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 2: You know, like, we don't always allow people outside of

1372
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: the UFC to have a slot in that claim. Dude,

1373
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 2: if he keeps winning against the guys that are still

1374
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 2: the calm yet, he's going to have a chance to

1375
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 2: say that.

1376
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm just going to say this. Folks have asked me, like,

1377
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 1: where would you put him among all bantamweights worldwide? I'd

1378
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: probably put him top three, certainly, no worse than top five.

1379
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: That's how good I think he is. Remember, this guy

1380
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: got his start as like a submission grappler. You know,

1381
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: he positionally dominated killed you Urrgucci by taking the back

1382
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: and being able to hold it over and over again.

1383
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: Now look at what he's doing. Now, look at who

1384
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 1: he has become. He has absolutely rounded out his game.

1385
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: He learned from a previous loss that he had, I

1386
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: think it was to one Archoletta, you know, learned that

1387
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: there were some things he still had to work on.

1388
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: It's a great experience form we talk about, you know

1389
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: what could Ryan Garcia take? It all depends on what

1390
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: you want to be and how you want to do it.

1391
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: But this guy went back to the drawing board and

1392
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: really worked on his overall development and the results speak

1393
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: for themselves. He is an absolutely excellent talent, first rate

1394
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 1: world class in every way BC. I'm going to say

1395
01:05:59,960 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: that I think it doesn't matter who he ends up fighting,

1396
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 1: whether it's pedest or pitpol, I think he wins. I

1397
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: think this dude in Bellatore, by the end of the

1398
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: year is going to be, assuming that the fights take place,

1399
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: is going to be the full weight class champion. He

1400
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: is a threat everywhere. Everywhere. This dude is a threat.

1401
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: He's got great experience, nearly twenty pro fights. I think

1402
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,919
Speaker 1: at this point, maybe even more certainly around that mark,

1403
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: he's coming for that full bansomweight title at Belatore. I

1404
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: think he gets it. And it's just remarkable to see

1405
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: a young man like this who had great potential finally

1406
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: actualize it in the most brilliant and dynamic and truly

1407
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: authoritative ways. This is how you want tournaments to end.

1408
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 1: One guy, yes, gets his hand raised, but there can

1409
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: just be no question who was the best guy in

1410
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: this tournament. It was patchy mix from beginning to end.

1411
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: He had a rough road to get to the finals,

1412
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: and he beat all three of these guys in their

1413
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 1: own ways, thoroughly, without issue, in all different kinds of ways.

1414
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: Quicker and quicker and quicker. That man is a huge problem.

1415
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 2: Do you think he would have been able to neutralize

1416
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 2: Statts's wrestling, or in fact beyond neutralized, like take it

1417
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 2: away completely had this fight gone you know, three four rounds.

1418
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: Yes, I think it would have been closer that way, right,

1419
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: like if he wasn't confident in striking and they had

1420
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 1: to do it that way. I think so because I

1421
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: think that Statts is a better pure wrestler than him,

1422
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: but not a better submission grappler. I think you saw

1423
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: a little bit of that with the Sabotello fight. Who

1424
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 1: by the way, Danny Sabatelo also go back to his

1425
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: winning ways, but his ability to find the back. He's

1426
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 1: got good arm drags. He just all he needs is

1427
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: back exposure, like those particular things. Dude, when you control

1428
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: Kyoji Horgucci the way he did for as long as

1429
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: he did, I mean, that's just it's not an accident.

1430
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: Darian Caldwell couldn't do that, you know, not in the

1431
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 1: same way. And Darian Calller was a two time NCAA

1432
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 1: Division one National champion wrestler. Like, no, it doesn't like

1433
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: his submission grappling is excellent. He's Jake Shield's coach out

1434
01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 1: of I think he was used to be extreme toarm

1435
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,479
Speaker 1: Not sure if he still is, but you know, he's

1436
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: just is. He is a very very special talent. And

1437
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,439
Speaker 1: the pitbull fight, I think if it ends up coming

1438
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: his way as a much more uncertain one, Pettis, I

1439
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: think he's just got too many skills for Petess to

1440
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 1: deal with. Pettis, by the way, have been out for

1441
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: nearly two years. We haven't really talked about that. He's

1442
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: been out a long time. Obviously he's got a fight

1443
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: coming up. But just a remarkable, a remarkable tournament for

1444
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,839
Speaker 1: this guy who was considered to be a dark horse candidate,

1445
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: boy dark horse, no more front runner, if ever there

1446
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: was one.

1447
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 2: By that time. We saw him at a high rollers Luke.

1448
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 2: He was preparing for the main event we had.

1449
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 1: He was very friendly.

1450
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had arms full of gimmick. We had arms

1451
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 2: full of gimmicks. And I grabbed his arm and I

1452
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 2: was like, Yo'll beat the motherfucking ass and he was

1453
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 2: just like.

1454
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I will, yeah.

1455
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, sure yeah. It was like security can we

1456
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 2: get yeah, well look to our you know, I mean

1457
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 2: they just hand you things there they.

1458
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: My only regret, and I guess there's just nothing they

1459
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 1: could do about it because Showtime has such a packed

1460
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: combats calendars. I just felt like the Davis Garcia fight

1461
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 1: basically overshadowed everything, including this, but the fact that he

1462
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 1: got the win that he did, I think salvaged it

1463
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: a little bit in terms of the overall punishing Davis

1464
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: Garcia halo. He was able to like poke through and

1465
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: make a real imprint I think on the minds of everyone.

1466
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: I just don't want folks to lose sight of it.

1467
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen it, it doesn't even go a

1468
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: full round. Go watch PATCHI Mix one of the better

1469
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: tournament runs we've seen in MMA, I think in years,

1470
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: and against this field nothing but killers he had to face,

1471
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 1: and he made them all look like they were lesser

1472
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 1: than even though they're all quite good. PATCHI Mix is

1473
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,879
Speaker 1: a supreme talent in this division.

1474
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 2: Do you have how much love do you have that?

1475
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 2: Raffe On Statts wore the MK Green Bomber jacket at

1476
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 2: like halftime in of an NBA game and they did

1477
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 2: a shooting contest and he hit like a half court

1478
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 2: shot wearing the MK jacket. Did you see that?

1479
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 1: I did. I'd see someone sent it to me. I

1480
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: was very happy to see that. You know, we like

1481
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: raffe on here a lot. He's a great guy and

1482
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 1: that jacket is cool as shit. I took one of

1483
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 1: mine on my vacation. We were in the cold north

1484
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: or south of Columbia. But Patchie MIxS just wasn't going

1485
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 1: to be denied. Bro, he just wasn't going to be

1486
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 1: denied that day. It is what it is now. Also

1487
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,799
Speaker 1: on that same card BC Aaron, Pico got a really

1488
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,600
Speaker 1: solid win over this kid named James Gonzalez. Again, I

1489
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 1: think it was the last minute replacement. What did you

1490
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: see from Pico that you liked or greatest performance or

1491
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: what impressions did you get from what he turned in over.

1492
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 2: The I mean I was tuning in not for his

1493
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 2: new you know, Darken go Tee Luke. I was tuning

1494
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 2: in to see if his shoulder was still attached after

1495
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 2: that left fight and the loss to Jordan Kennedy, which

1496
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 2: really halted you know. I mean, Pico could have been

1497
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 2: fighting Patricio for the title right after that had he

1498
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 2: won that. So to see him come back be healthy,

1499
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 2: to see the look, I mean, he's on top of

1500
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 2: you whether it's going to the body his left hook

1501
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 2: to the body.

1502
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: Is is you know we've seen beauty.

1503
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've seen him finished guys with it before.

1504
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 2: But it's such a weapon and a and all it

1505
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 2: does is allow him to get close to you, maul you,

1506
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 2: and then take you down. And he just I mean, look,

1507
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 2: he will grind you the hell out. I mean he

1508
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 2: just wears people out down there. So yeah, he's back

1509
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 2: to find out how good he can be. He wants

1510
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 2: Jeremy Kennedy in a rematch for the interim title while

1511
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 2: Patricio is away. But you see pit Bull came out

1512
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 2: on Twitter and was like, Yo, I'll fight you right

1513
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 2: now for the title and it won't even affect me

1514
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 2: fighting you know the pettis for that title too a

1515
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 2: couple months later. So what do you think Belatore does here?

1516
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 2: Because it is time to find out what we have

1517
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 2: in this man.

1518
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 1: I think you run back to Jeremy Kennedy fight. Yeah,

1519
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 1: I like that one that because it's not just that like, oh,

1520
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: we go back to the same one we already booked

1521
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: because we don't have creative ideas. No, there are other

1522
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: guys you could give him that would be worthy fights.

1523
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: Kennedy's actually a really good test. He's a really good

1524
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: test I think for Aaron Pico because the takedown is

1525
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 1: going to be hard to come by. Kennedy has fought

1526
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: a lot of really good guys. I think he's in

1527
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,879
Speaker 1: the best space of his career. He's got good grappling,

1528
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 1: he's a veteran, he knows how to win. He's with

1529
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: a good camp. Yeah, that's a really it's a really

1530
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: tough fight, and I think we need to see. Look

1531
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: the guy he fought, James Gonzalez, was last minute. I

1532
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 1: looked at his record in some of his previous fights.

1533
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 1: He's actually pretty good. He's got a ten and six record,

1534
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 1: which doesn't scream amazing things necessarily, But if you look

1535
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 1: at who he's lost to, it's just a little bit short.

1536
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: He's never been finished and just a little bit short

1537
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: against much better names. So you know, this was a

1538
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 1: good and it ends up being a bit of a

1539
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 1: tune up contest for Picos. So he should look good

1540
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: in a fight like that. But I just mean he

1541
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 1: had great development, great decision making. He didn't put himself

1542
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: in trouble. He was in control the whole time. His

1543
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:40,719
Speaker 1: personal weapons and signature was on display, all the things

1544
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: you want to see in a circumstance like that. You

1545
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 1: got the Kennedy one, to me is important because it's

1546
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 1: just to me, the right kind of test that I

1547
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: think is going to neutralize some of Pico's strengths that

1548
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 1: he leans on, which means the rest of his game

1549
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: has to fill in the gap. And I want to

1550
01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: see how he does that against a more veteran talent

1551
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: and an experienced talent and a guy like Kennedy. I

1552
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 1: like the rematch idea. I think they should go that route.

1553
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 2: For me, is there any chance that riding his horse

1554
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 2: Rocko Luke has helped raise his own testosterone? That help?

1555
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: I mean it can't hurt, right, it can't hurt I

1556
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: mean that horse, that horse just ooses trend. I mean

1557
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 1: it's absurd. BC Beltore two ninety four was the night

1558
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: before Liz Carmousse fourth round submission victory over Deanna Bennett.

1559
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 1: Now it was a bit of a rough run up

1560
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: to that point, but in the end she gets done.

1561
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: What do you want to say?

1562
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 2: Deanna Bennett was like woefully unperfected. Did you see that

1563
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 2: whole situation with that she had alerted everybody the day

1564
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 2: before that she's like eleven pounds over and wasn't gonna

1565
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 2: make weigh.

1566
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,879
Speaker 1: And so I saw that she missed weigh very badly.

1567
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 2: I hear it. Here's the deal. She didn't want to

1568
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,440
Speaker 2: try to cut down. They forced her to. Uh. Carmush

1569
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 2: was so mad she ended up saying like, so, I

1570
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 2: guess Bennett ended up only missing weight by like five

1571
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 2: pounds or four point six pounds or something like that,

1572
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 2: which is still again badly professional. But Carmosh still wanted

1573
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 2: to take on the fight. It was a rematch, of course,

1574
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 2: of a win from Carmush a couple of years ago,

1575
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 2: and was like, I'm going to put my belt on

1576
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 2: the line no matter what, which we've never seen a

1577
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,759
Speaker 2: champion do that. But then Carmose was talking some trash

1578
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,719
Speaker 2: and was like, I'm going to retire her from the sport.

1579
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 2: We need to get rid of her, Luke. I mean,

1580
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 2: they could have canceled this fight. It was. It was

1581
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 2: kind of bizarre that it went on, and then Bennett

1582
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 2: got off to this great start and was putting it

1583
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 2: on Carmosh. But to Gorilla's credit, once she got that

1584
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 2: to the ground and she started grinding. It was her fight. Look,

1585
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 2: that's but that was just a bizarre stretch what just

1586
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 2: happened there.

1587
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Carmush could have fought without her as BC indicated,

1588
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: without her title being on the line, and still decided

1589
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 1: to do it. And remember when you do what she did,

1590
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:48,799
Speaker 1: where you put your title on the line. Bennett couldn't

1591
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 1: win it, but Carmush could have lost it, which could

1592
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 1: have been a problem for Bellator in the end had

1593
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: that happen where you now have no champion in this

1594
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 1: weight class or trying to build, that would have been bad.

1595
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: But Carmush gets it done after her bit of a

1596
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 1: rough run. Good thing was a five round fight out

1597
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: of three. She would have lost a three round fight,

1598
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Just remarkable to me. I got

1599
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 1: to say this, like, her physical strength is amazing, and yes,

1600
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 1: there are some technical aspects to her game that even

1601
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 1: at this advanced age. She's nearly forty years Ah's thirty

1602
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 1: nine years old. You know, her wrestling was not as

1603
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 1: good as Benett's olt Benett was obviously leaning on a

1604
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 1: lot of her weight discrepancy, but I just still feel like, dude,

1605
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 1: this is arguably one of the better versions of Carmush

1606
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 1: in her entire career. She's passed her athletic prime very

1607
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: much about that, there can be no debate. But she

1608
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: has salvaged a lot of it by staying in great

1609
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 1: condition and her technical maturity I think has really come together.

1610
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 1: You know, she's beatable, but a great version of what

1611
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 1: she I think always tried to be and she got

1612
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 1: it done here against really difficult circumstances she did not

1613
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: have to entertain. I take my hat off to her,

1614
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:52,640
Speaker 1: simper fidal old Liz Carmush.

1615
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 2: No, absolutely, this is a very respectable run and she's

1616
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 2: relying on that experienced out last some of the or

1617
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 2: the out decisions some of these fighters in terms of

1618
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 2: like what she wasn't willing to do in the past

1619
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 2: was was make things happen on the feet. Now she's

1620
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 2: more willing and situational stretches here to do that. I

1621
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 2: like to see that. What do you think about the fact, Luke,

1622
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 2: that Alima Lama McFarlane that was on the Saturday Night

1623
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 2: card and got a split decision went over Kata Wattonabi

1624
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 2: And now it looks like the old friends Carmush and

1625
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 2: Alima lay may be in line to fight for that

1626
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:25,879
Speaker 2: world title, Luke.

1627
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: It's a bad fight for McFarland. I think Carmosh wins

1628
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: that one. Although McFarlane does have some of the kind

1629
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 1: of wrestling slash grappling that you saw from Bennett that

1630
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 1: could give her problems. I don't know if they're gonna

1631
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 1: make that fight or not. I guess we'll have to

1632
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 1: say they probably do. They probably find a way to

1633
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 1: make it work. But you know, McFarlane, I think became champion.

1634
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 1: We all thought like she was gonna get way, way better,

1635
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 1: and then there was this weird time off slash regression,

1636
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 1: and she's kind of been able to get back to

1637
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 1: her winning ways a little bit, but not like she

1638
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: once was. So I just don't feel like she was

1639
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 1: exactly the threat she was maybe in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,

1640
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 1: something like that. Okay, a couple more questions on this

1641
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 1: and then we'll go to some fight announcements over the weekend.

1642
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna give you some names. BC. These

1643
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 1: are all winners from the weekend on Bellatour. Danny Sabotello,

1644
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 1: Yancy Madeiros, Sarah McMahon, as you mentioned, Ilim Mala McFarlane,

1645
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: Timothy Johnson, who had the most impressive victory of them.

1646
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 2: I gotta shout out Sarah McMahon Luke, who's who always

1647
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 2: tough as nails. But she went in there against Arleen Blencoe,

1648
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 2: who we know can can throw you know, hammers and

1649
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 2: can go late into fights in outlast folks. But this

1650
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 2: was a gutsy win for McMahon. She dominated early, but

1651
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 2: then she got busted up from some hard punches from Blenco. Look,

1652
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:43,600
Speaker 2: she may have put herself like legitimately in contention for

1653
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,839
Speaker 2: Cyborg's title here at one forty five, and even Cyborg

1654
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 2: herself tweeted afterwards basically saying, look, make get me a

1655
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 2: fight's cock Koker, I'll do this. I'll fight her. I

1656
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:54,799
Speaker 2: didn't expect. I mean, look, it can be a fountain

1657
01:17:54,800 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 2: of youth if the matchmaking level is different in But

1658
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 2: it just so happens right now that carmoosefon new life

1659
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 2: here in Belatore and is fighting, you know, some of

1660
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 2: her best that we've seen in a while. This was

1661
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 2: as good as I've seen Sarah McMahon a long time, Luke,

1662
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 2: and she was tough as nails through it too. Would

1663
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 2: you hate Sarah McMahon against Cyborg. I don't know if

1664
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 2: I hate that.

1665
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: I like that idea of much more than I like

1666
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 1: Cyborg versus Kats and Ghana. To be quite honest with you,

1667
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 1: like I had kind of forgotten about Sarah McMahon for

1668
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 1: all the reasons everyone can understand, and I'm with you

1669
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 1: and especially you know, she looked good through the first

1670
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 1: two rounds here, and one time she got taken down

1671
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 1: and then reverse or she tried for a takedown and

1672
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 1: she got reversed, and then she swept Blenco right away

1673
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 1: and got back on top. And then that third round

1674
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 1: she got rocked badly. Blencoe put it on her, and

1675
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 1: she still found a way to control her control the

1676
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: round and ultimately take you know, the easy, unanimous decision victory.

1677
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 1: So like all the things you're talking about, she still

1678
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: got some athletic gifts. You can see. She still looks

1679
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 1: to be in a tremendous physical condition. She's all her

1680
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 1: skills said, this is about as good as going to

1681
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 1: get for her, certainly, and she put together a good

1682
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:00,839
Speaker 1: win against a Bellator mainstay. I think that against Cyborg

1683
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 1: is much more competitive than the one with Katzangano personally speaking,

1684
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'd be all in favor of it absolutely, Luke.

1685
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 2: Quickly, did you know Deanna Bennett has wins over Jennifer Maya,

1686
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 2: Juliana Panna, and Miranda Maverick in her career.

1687
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 1: I was from a while ago though, and some of

1688
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 1: that's from in Victor, right.

1689
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of that's from way back. But I was

1690
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 2: just letting you know the truth there, Okay.

1691
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 1: Real quick, I'd give a shout out to Danny Sabatello,

1692
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,600
Speaker 1: who looked a little bit dude. That kid he went

1693
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 1: up against them forget his name, Breno. Yeah, he's good

1694
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:33,560
Speaker 1: glover to share a trade. He was stuffing every takedown,

1695
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 1: he was denying every scramble to Sabotello rocked him on

1696
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 1: the feet in the first round. I was like, okay,

1697
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 1: this kid's all right, man, he's pretty good. But once

1698
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 1: you know, listen, Sabatelo just shoots and shoots and shoots

1699
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 1: and ties up and shoots and ties up. And once

1700
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: he was able to get his hands together, and then

1701
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 1: more importantly, I think up against the cage, where he

1702
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 1: could begin to chain together attacks more easily without having

1703
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 1: to break contact, then you saw the difference and on

1704
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 1: the ground, you know, on his feet that Ny Sibtello had.

1705
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 1: I did know a couple of decent strikes here or there,

1706
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 1: but it's mostly he's got a lopsided game. But when

1707
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: he get to that lopsided end of things, he got

1708
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 1: out of a knee bar and then he was able

1709
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:10,639
Speaker 1: to go and then win via choke there at the end.

1710
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 1: That was a good win for him. He changed his

1711
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 1: tune a little bit. He was like, hey, if you're

1712
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 1: cheering for me, thank you, and if you're not, go

1713
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 1: fuck yourself. It wasn't go fuck yourself to everyone, you

1714
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's the drive by was a

1715
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: little bit more coordinated than it was in previous outings.

1716
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 2: So yeah, he almost Lithuanian exited them.

1717
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 1: Luke.

1718
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 2: It was almost polite in that regard. I will tell

1719
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 2: you that Yancey Maderos Luke second straight win in Bellatour

1720
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 2: and the first one was against Emmanuel Sanchez. He dude,

1721
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 2: he looked good. He put this guy away what in

1722
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 2: the first round, just made that nice transition on the

1723
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 2: ground and the other guy was really pale.

1724
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 1: Luke.

1725
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 2: Charlie Leary from the UK. But you know, I mean,

1726
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 2: look at thirty five. Yancey's a fun fighter, Luke, and

1727
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 2: this was another Hawaii homecoming. Good for him to get that,

1728
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 2: but he still could make some fun fights here.

1729
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, people love Yancy. Yancey is one of the nicest

1730
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: guys you'll ever talk to in the and I genuinely

1731
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 1: mean that he's still got some gas lift in the tank.

1732
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 1: You know, you got to give him the right kind

1733
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 1: of fights for where he's at to your point, you know,

1734
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: but you put him on an opener of a main card,

1735
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 1: and you put him in Hawaii, and he's gonna deliver.

1736
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 1: He's gonna deliver. So that's what you got there, and

1737
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 1: I think that's sort of the good spot for him

1738
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 1: in this stage of his career. One more question about

1739
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 1: Belator over the weekend BC just so weird and frankly

1740
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 1: unfortunate turn of events, ray Borg. I would say he

1741
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 1: missed weight, but he didn't even really try to weigh in.

1742
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I doesn't get that. Could you instead of asking me,

1743
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 2: can you just explain what really happened? I've read the headline,

1744
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 2: but what like this is bizarre?

1745
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 1: Right? So he he had a fight against Kiljijorgucci, which,

1746
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: by the way, on paper you're like rayb Or killed you, Orgucci,

1747
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 1: that's a great fight. The whole thing gets canceled. He

1748
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: doesn't even attempt to weigh in. Then his management dominance

1749
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 1: MMA put out a press release kind of throwing him

1750
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: under the bus. If we can be honest, I mean,

1751
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 1: I get that they were frustrated with him, and he

1752
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 1: has probably been frustrating in the fact that he didn't

1753
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 1: even bother the way in really pissed everyone off. But like,

1754
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 1: that's your client. You can just say, hey, we're gonna

1755
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: cut ties with him. You don't have to be like,

1756
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 1: we're tired of his unprofessionalism. But okay, different matter. I

1757
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: understand why they cut him. I actually do understand that,

1758
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 1: but not in the way in which they put out

1759
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 1: a press release. But okay, neither here nor there. They

1760
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 1: put out the press release they cut him, and then

1761
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 1: he just subsequently gets on social media and says, you know,

1762
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 1: if one of the more of these kinds of incidents happened,

1763
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 1: I was going to retire, So I'm gonna retire. I

1764
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 1: didn't really buy that he wanted to retire. He just

1765
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 1: kind of keeping a bizarre promise to himself.

1766
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 2: Well, Beltor caught him Luke.

1767
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 1: And Beltore cut him too. Yeah, so he he doesn't

1768
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 1: weigh in, and when he was supposed to, his management

1769
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 1: releases Scott Kocher releases him understandably as well, and then

1770
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 1: he just retires. It was like a series of really

1771
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 1: bad failures for ray Borg, who has missed weight many times,

1772
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 1: that has had some other injury woes, and you know,

1773
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: he's had some tough luck. I feel bad for him,

1774
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: but it probably is the right call at least.

1775
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 2: This is my confusion. Did we ever get like what happened?

1776
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 1: Like I don't understand the issue? No, okay, And it

1777
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 1: sounds to me, it sounds to me like if you

1778
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:11,759
Speaker 1: don't even attempt, you were not very close. He probably

1779
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: was like way way off. You know.

1780
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell if it was that or if he

1781
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 2: just like lost the you know, lost the love to

1782
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 2: fight and just didn't want to be there.

1783
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,719
Speaker 1: Luke pop quiz, we see how old is ray Borg?

1784
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 1: Thirty four twenty nine, Wow, twenty nine twenty nine? Really

1785
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,640
Speaker 1: really unfortunate that it has come to this. And I

1786
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 1: want to point out something too, in terms of all

1787
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 1: the fights that have gotten messed up in his career.

1788
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 1: Just here's a minor list of them. Jesus, I can

1789
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 1: go all the way back. Listen to this. Supposed to

1790
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 1: fight Ryan Benoit in twenty fourteen, didn't happen. Was supposed

1791
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 1: to fight Richie of A Chillick in twenty fourteen years

1792
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 1: all in the UFC, didn't happen. Was supposed to fight

1793
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 1: Freddy Serano and UFC didn't happen. Was supposed to fight

1794
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: Ian McCall, who also had really bad luck, didn't happen.

1795
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 1: Was supposed to fight Demetrius Johnson didn't happen. Then he did,

1796
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:01,520
Speaker 1: and of course he loses. He had subsequently this many cancelations.

1797
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 1: Brandon Morena fight canceled, second, Brandon Marina fight canceled, Joseph

1798
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: Benavidez fight canceled, Pengyuan Lou fight canceled, Kyler Phillips fight canceled.

1799
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 1: He then fights a few times. Marlon Vera fight canceled,

1800
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: Marad Dwalasheelly fight canceled, Nate Mines fight canceled, Venissia's del

1801
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 1: Lavera fight canceled somewhere else, and then this one. Koji

1802
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 1: Horrigucci again, some weight misses, some injuries. It's a combination

1803
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 1: of things that goes into it, but just a really

1804
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 1: really could never stay consistent. BC could never really find

1805
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 1: a way to continuously get out there and perform. And

1806
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 1: I think if you're having this much friction in your

1807
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: professional career, maybe it's time to look at maybe doing

1808
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 1: something else. Okay, let's do point number five. BC. We

1809
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 1: had a slew of announcements over the weekend. Not going

1810
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 1: to laundry list them here, but there are two I

1811
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 1: want to talk about. Let's talk about them first, BC,

1812
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 1: UFC President. I believe Dana White announced at UFC two

1813
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,600
Speaker 1: ninety we're going to get a middleweight. It looks like

1814
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: number one contender fight between Robert Whittaker and Dricis du plass.

1815
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 1: Your reaction to this matchup? Do you agree is for

1816
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 1: a number one contendership? How do you feel about it?

1817
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 2: Look? Are you talking to me?

1818
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 1: I'm back?

1819
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 2: All right?

1820
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 1: Oh? Were you gone? I didn't realize you were gone?

1821
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had I had poor fluid management, Luke, I

1822
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 2: had to you know, break this.

1823
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,680
Speaker 1: Did you go on another vacation? Should we pull in

1824
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 1: shack MAJORI here.

1825
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 2: Thank you, I'm back. I believe you're talking about Robert

1826
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 2: Whitaker getting the Dricus.

1827
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking about UFC two ninety the announcement. We

1828
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 1: got Whitaker versus Dupless. Ostensibly you would imagine for number

1829
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 1: one contender. I'm assuming you agree with that. If not,

1830
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 1: say so. But otherwise, how do you feel a tough fight?

1831
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 1: Tough fight?

1832
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 2: Dana said, the winner gets out of Sonya. Luke, this

1833
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 2: is this okay? I mean they're going all in on

1834
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 2: Dupless here, Luke that I don't know if he's ready.

1835
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm telling you he's not ready for this level,

1836
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 2: this level, Luke.

1837
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, dude, I appreciate that he has earned

1838
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 1: his spot here, but it's like you're fighting a fucking

1839
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 1: surgeon in Robert Whittaker, and Dupless is kind of how

1840
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 1: shall we say, all over the place. Yes, that is

1841
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 1: a tough ass fight for him, very tough fight.

1842
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 2: I mean, this is just to speed up the idea

1843
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 2: of bringing the UFC to Africa, right and finding out

1844
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 2: who the real African born champion is or whatever that

1845
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:20,440
Speaker 2: BS narrative.

1846
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:22,600
Speaker 1: Was, Luke the Mike Perry Award, Yes.

1847
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, all right, let's be honest here. So Dupless

1848
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 2: is five and zero since making his twenty twenty UFC

1849
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 2: debut nineteen and two. Overall, I've certainly loved the escalation

1850
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 2: from beating Marcus Perez to Trevan Giles and now Tavares,

1851
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 2: Darren Hill and Derek Brunson. But Luke, Derek Brunson does

1852
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 2: not get you. You know, Robert Whittaker, the living legend, Like,

1853
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I understand what they're doing here. They're giving him,

1854
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,719
Speaker 2: you know, Okay, let's prove it. We got a window

1855
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 2: here to potentially make this auto signa fight, and to

1856
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 2: be fair, out of Signia is like largely cleaned out

1857
01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:00,879
Speaker 2: this division with the exception of potential riser like Duplessy

1858
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 2: in Hamza. But yeah, I guess if you know, if

1859
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 2: you're good enough, go beat Robert Whittaker. Okay, dude, that's

1860
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 2: a big leap. That's a big ash leap. What are

1861
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 2: we doing, dude, seriously, on the whole, on the whole,

1862
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:16,720
Speaker 2: what are we doing? Your newness pain of three? Like,

1863
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 2: what are we doing here? I know UFC like usually

1864
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 2: Bat's eight hundred, like they're usually on top of it, Luke,

1865
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 2: But right, what, dude, really really well.

1866
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:27,759
Speaker 1: I mean, but just think about it for a second,

1867
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: Like I get that the fight is weird, and you're like, dude,

1868
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 1: Robert Whittaker is gonna mop the floor with this guy,

1869
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 1: but like, what are they supposed to do? Because to

1870
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 1: your point, dude Duplessy, you know, yes, sometimes he pulls

1871
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 1: dar until right on top of himself. That has happened,

1872
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 1: but he does have the five and zero wins, like

1873
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 1: he's marching forward. You can't just leap frog. I mean,

1874
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 1: I guess you could. You could leap frog Robert Whittaker

1875
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 1: and then put Izzy in the title fight, but it

1876
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 1: leaves you in a weird space with Whittker because who

1877
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 1: the fuck is he gonna fight at this point? So

1878
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 1: you got to give him Whittaker. You know, it's a

1879
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 1: really tough fight for him. Anyone's a really tough fight

1880
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 1: for Whittaker obviously, but especially with a guy who you

1881
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 1: know has a very offensively less defensively minded style. I

1882
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 1: just feel like it's not like the best outcome, but

1883
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 1: it's a defensible outcome just given the lay of the land. Well,

1884
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 1: I guess I kind of see it.

1885
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 2: I mean, there had to be a perfect storm to

1886
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 2: open up this as an opportunity, and if the perfect

1887
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 2: storm is that Adissani has already fought everybody, and the

1888
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 2: only one really that who deserves another shot is Whittaker,

1889
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 2: who's already fought him twice. Well, let's just match these

1890
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 2: two up against each other, because look up and down,

1891
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 2: everybody's coming off a loss for the most part, and

1892
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 2: I think Paulo Costa might want to be a light

1893
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 2: have youweight?

1894
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 3: Now?

1895
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 2: I have no idea what's going on with him? Luke,

1896
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:45,759
Speaker 2: so still like this is supposed to be Whittacker Costa

1897
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 2: and that makes sense, this don't. I don't know, Luke.

1898
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 1: This is like, Yeah, are you worried he's gonna pull

1899
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 1: Robert Whittaker on top of him and then just lose

1900
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 1: very badly early?

1901
01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm worried he's gonna get badly and this would,

1902
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 2: you know, stunt his own growth. Although obviously you could

1903
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 2: go in there against Whittaker, lose and and come out

1904
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 2: better from it if you want to grow. But dude,

1905
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 2: he's not right, Like really honestly, he's not ready for this, Luke.

1906
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 1: Who is who in that division? I mean you could

1907
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 1: do okay, I see what you're saying, Like you're like, okay,

1908
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:21,520
Speaker 1: if you're gonna use Robert Whittaker, do hamzat Whittaker, right, because.

1909
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 2: That way, you're right, You're damn right.

1910
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 1: Because that would be more exciting. It looks like they're

1911
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:28,640
Speaker 1: trying to force a fight through Whittaker that is just

1912
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 1: very difficult to force through because hamsaw you think I

1913
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 1: favor Whittaker, but Hamzat's a that's a tough one, you know,

1914
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 1: so I can get that. This one just feels like

1915
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 1: we're just wasting a Whittaker fight because we kind of

1916
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 1: have to.

1917
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 2: But I get it, like the Leeds was coming on

1918
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 2: and he lost, Like everybody's not a loss. Here is

1919
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 2: a Strickland coming off a loss to Luke.

1920
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 1: No, Strickland won his last one. It was relatively boring

1921
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 1: at the Apex, but he did win it.

1922
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 2: I would would, but he you know, he wouldn't have

1923
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:58,600
Speaker 2: deserved Whittaker right now, Strickland, you know what I mean?

1924
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 2: Strickl Imam of Long Island, Lucas Tower.

1925
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 1: And then also it's like, yeah, m Avov and it's

1926
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't you know, I wouldn't favor Strickling to

1927
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 1: beat Whittaker either, dude.

1928
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 2: But Tory just got a big win. Shouldn't it be vi?

1929
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 2: Tory Whittaker?

1930
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 1: Dude, what is the fucking market for Izzy Viatory three?

1931
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 1: I mean, really, god worse than then?

1932
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess you're setting up a trilogy that nobody wants, right, Yeah,

1933
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 2: this is what I'm saying.

1934
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 1: It's like it almost would have been better for the

1935
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:28,559
Speaker 1: division if Paeda had won, because you've got all these

1936
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 1: other fresh matchups you could have done. It's the same

1937
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 1: thing like had Colby beaten Leon or s sorry, had

1938
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 1: Colby beaten Kamaru in the first or second juncture. It

1939
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:39,639
Speaker 1: reopens the division in a way because now there's fresh

1940
01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 1: matchups down the line. But you just didn't get that.

1941
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 1: You just didn't. Now we don't have those fresh matchups anymore,

1942
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 1: and so it's like we're just kind of here. I mean,

1943
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:49,599
Speaker 1: Dracas can win. He's a big puncher, he's a big,

1944
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 1: strong kid. He definitely wants to win. I think if

1945
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 1: he does win, however unlikely we viewed that to be,

1946
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 1: it does set up kind of a fun file. It's amazing.

1947
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I don't even know if I want

1948
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 1: to say it.

1949
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 2: Should I got it? It should have been cannoneer man

1950
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 2: think about it. Split decision went over Strickland after losing

1951
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:11,719
Speaker 2: the title shot and has the history of having hurt

1952
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 2: Robert Whitaker around three in their fight, and you know,

1953
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 2: it was like, whoa, what's going on here? You know

1954
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, it should have been that.

1955
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 1: Dude, that's slightly better.

1956
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 2: But I get what you're saying. Nobody wants the winner

1957
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 2: of then Whittaker Cannoneer to fight for the title next.

1958
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 2: You're right, So dude, this is this is a bold

1959
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 2: leap though. Okay, I mean, I'll say Alex Pdeda just

1960
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 2: made a bold leap too, and he won the championships.

1961
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 2: So what do I know, Luke?

1962
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, well, here here's what I'll say. Here's what

1963
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 1: I'll say. If Drikis wins, It's unlikely that he does,

1964
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:41,639
Speaker 1: but if he does, it does set up a fun

1965
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 1: rivalry fight. I guess, fun for the African m m A.

1966
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't really know.

1967
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,640
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna set up unnecessary like you know,

1968
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 2: Holmes versus Cooney race race, like narratives that just don't

1969
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 2: need to be there, right, I mean, that's.

1970
01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 1: Like it's like the it's a battle between the descendants

1971
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:01,680
Speaker 1: of colonizers and the descendants of people from Africa for

1972
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:02,519
Speaker 1: the face of Africa.

1973
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 2: But okay, no, please, no, okay, no.

1974
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:08,040
Speaker 1: No, whatever, it sets up an interesting rivalry fight again,

1975
01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 1: we can say that very fairly. It certainly does. I

1976
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:12,680
Speaker 1: will say this. Hold on, I want to make a

1977
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:16,759
Speaker 1: point if we are going to do is He Whittaker three?

1978
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 1: Which hello, I do have interest in. I have interest

1979
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 1: in is he Whittaker three? You're asking me about is

1980
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 1: he Marvin Vttori three? Not pass? Is He Whitaker three

1981
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 1: is a different one for me. That one, to me

1982
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:30,680
Speaker 1: is winnable for Whittaker in a way that I'd be

1983
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 1: curious of. But I want to make sure they do

1984
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:35,640
Speaker 1: that one big. I want to make sure they do

1985
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 1: that one, blow it out like they did the first fight,

1986
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 1: where Whittaker obviously wasn't really ready for what he had

1987
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 1: to offer. I think he's a different Whittaker now. I

1988
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 1: just want to make sure we're gonna do a third one.

1989
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 1: Let's do it big. My only, my only request.

1990
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 2: And just a reminder, it's not wrong if you scored

1991
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 2: it three to two Whittaker over is He in the rematch? Look,

1992
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:55,960
Speaker 2: that's not a it's not it's not a wrong score.

1993
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 1: Not the one that they turned in Ultimately, that another word,

1994
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, last one on this and then we'll move

1995
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 1: to other parts of the show. Gilbert Burns on short

1996
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 1: notice basically is going to fight Balal Mohammed, also on

1997
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 1: short notice in the Comaine at UFC two eighty eight,

1998
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:16,560
Speaker 1: for what you would just assume has to be the

1999
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 1: number one contendership for the winner of Leon versus Colby

2000
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:23,600
Speaker 1: whenever the hell that's gonna happen, BC, do you like

2001
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 1: to fight? More importantly, do you like that it's happening

2002
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:28,679
Speaker 1: under these circumstances? So quickly?

2003
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 2: Dude? We have we had, don't we have? Billal basically

2004
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:33,719
Speaker 2: asking Gilbert if he's willing to do this at middleweight

2005
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 2: just because of the late minute, you know, the last

2006
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:36,760
Speaker 2: minute nature of it.

2007
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 1: And also just to Hoane to clarify, Billall has been

2008
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 1: i think observing Ramadan, so he's been fasting this whole

2009
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 1: time too, Like.

2010
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:45,759
Speaker 2: Nothing, again, what are we doing here? I'm the whole dude,

2011
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 2: I'm the whole lately, Like what are we doing here? No,

2012
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 2: this doesn't make a ton of sense at all. And

2013
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 2: you know, maybe you could argue, well, if if Gilbert

2014
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 2: had finished Masvidal and made a big statement, he wouldn't

2015
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 2: need this anyway. I get the meritocracy in matching these

2016
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 2: two perfection there not under these circumstances though, No like.

2017
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 1: It's I like these two. I like this fight. I

2018
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 1: think it's okay on paper. What's great about this fight?

2019
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 1: You would imagine it's pretty competitive. Gilbert, you know, much

2020
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 1: more dangerous as a submission specialist, and you would imagine

2021
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 1: as a striker as well. But Balall, big physical guy,

2022
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 1: certainly beaten tough opponents, has earned his position at the

2023
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:23,640
Speaker 1: top of this division or out near it anyway. You know,

2024
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 1: you think would be able to match Gilbert on certain levels,

2025
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 1: and especially if he has a right game plan, could

2026
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 1: be very frustrating and difficult for him. So I would

2027
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 1: still favor Gilbert to win. But Blall is a live

2028
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 1: dog in my mind, no question about it. But the

2029
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:39,679
Speaker 1: late notice stuff kind of have shoehorning it into UFC

2030
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 1: two eighty eight. You know, it's not my favorite. It's

2031
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 1: not my favorite because Gilbert didn't take much punishment. You

2032
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 1: could see you got obviously landed on in this particular exchange,

2033
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:50,719
Speaker 1: but in general didn't get beat up too bad against Jorge.

2034
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 1: It works as kind of like a tune up fight.

2035
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: In that sense, keeps him fresh. His weight's already down,

2036
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 1: He's just gonna slide right in. You know, it sets

2037
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:00,640
Speaker 1: up some advantages for him. But the other part too,

2038
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 1: is BC, are we really upset that Gilbert's you know,

2039
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:04,680
Speaker 1: we say it's in advantage. He still has to go

2040
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 1: fight fucking bal Mohammad just to get a title shot again. Yeah,

2041
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 1: you know, I do feel good for Gilbert that he's

2042
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:13,600
Speaker 1: got it looks it looks like at least a conceivable

2043
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 1: path to the title right in front of him.

2044
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:18,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and that's what he's asking for, That's

2045
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:20,680
Speaker 2: what he wants, So that's great. They are making him

2046
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 2: walk through it just the same. That's why I look

2047
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 2: at you love pairing them together again, just wrong time.

2048
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 2: I mean, look, how are you not more upset about

2049
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:29,680
Speaker 2: Newness paying you three? Like nobody wants that, No one,

2050
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:30,720
Speaker 2: there's no call for that.

2051
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 1: I talked about this with Shack, I talked about shot.

2052
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 1: It's not like I like the fight. I'm not saying

2053
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 1: I like the fight. What I'm saying is you're not

2054
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:42,679
Speaker 1: going to make the shift Chenko fight right now because

2055
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:44,800
Speaker 1: she just lost in her own way class. Hey, you

2056
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 1: have a.

2057
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 2: Fresh contender, you have all iron a Luke from Mexico, Like,

2058
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 2: there's a.

2059
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 1: Thing they should have done that one. But are you

2060
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 1: really gonna say that that one's going to blow up

2061
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 1: the box off if you're the UFC. If you're the UFC,

2062
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 1: does that one blow up the box office more than

2063
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 1: the paint?

2064
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 2: This is this is how we squeeze out another pay

2065
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 2: per view Maine or co Main or whatever. I get, like,

2066
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:05,800
Speaker 2: I get why it happened. I'm just saying, like you

2067
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 2: got a lot of balls. There's no call for this

2068
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 2: fight at all at all, dude, And I disagree.

2069
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 1: And the Canadians, the Canadians have shown their their displeasure

2070
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:17,400
Speaker 1: at it by let me see, I believe they've either

2071
01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 1: achieved the sellout in Vancouver or nearly added to the

2072
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 1: UFC nose. Here's the problem. Here's the problem. The UFC

2073
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:27,760
Speaker 1: knows they can make Nunez versus Penia three go back

2074
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 1: to a market that it's been let's say, underserved in

2075
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 1: recent years, and it's still gonna do big business for them.

2076
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 1: So if you're them, the fuck do you care?

2077
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:39,640
Speaker 2: Right, that's why they're jacking up the worst seat in

2078
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 2: the arena's five hundred bucks everywhere you go, or some

2079
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 2: people are sending me in England for the upcoming card

2080
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 2: that there was like eight hundred pounds for the worst

2081
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 2: seat in the build. I'm like, damn, wow, we're really

2082
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 2: at that point, Luke.

2083
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 1: But jesus eight hundred fucking pounds.

2084
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I woefully disagree that Chefchenko Nunas III

2085
01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 2: has to have Chefchenko with a title. I think now's

2086
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 2: the Time's the freaking time, dude, Like, why does that

2087
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:03,679
Speaker 2: matter that her that she has to be the reigning

2088
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 2: Flyway champion? It's about their rivalry, you know.

2089
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 1: It's just hard. How do you convince Paina to take

2090
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 1: that fight fresh off of pain using in her own

2091
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 1: weight class?

2092
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 2: No, not Painia Newness Newness.

2093
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 1: Sorry what am I saying?

2094
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,599
Speaker 2: Because it's a different weight class. That's not what I understand.

2095
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:25,680
Speaker 1: I understand, but like the whole thing is Champ versus Champ. Now,

2096
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:28,519
Speaker 1: it's just yeah, you're just a contender, dude.

2097
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 2: They're making some they're stretching, they're stretching the patients of

2098
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 2: the of the uh you know, of the fan right now.

2099
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 1: Well, this is a problem with monopoly that folks just

2100
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:39,919
Speaker 1: want to ignore the problem with monopoly is that, uh,

2101
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 1: the monopoly in question, this one would be a monopsony

2102
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 1: in the in the argument that they aren't nearly and

2103
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 1: don't have to be nearly as responsive to not really

2104
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 1: customer demands, but more importantly customer complaints because you simply

2105
01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:56,599
Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot of meaningful alternatives to the product,

2106
01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 1: and so it can ossify and get boring a little

2107
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:01,600
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Speaker 1: You see, it's time for the donks to ask us questions.

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Speaker 1: It's time for dms from the old diggity donks.

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Speaker 2: Hehaw. Look, do you think Stephen Jackson would allow me

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Speaker 2: to change his nickname this testo stack?

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Speaker 1: You know? Well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ok, how about on.

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Speaker 1: The how about on the next broadcast when I ask

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Speaker 1: him about the basketball, I can call him Jerry Testo

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Speaker 2: Yes, all right, hey guys, we haven't done this DMS

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Speaker 2: from donks thing in like a real long time, but.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's do it. Let's do it. First question

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Speaker 1: from at the real K Carter, He asks, I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: he or she? How the hell good question? Can one

2189
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Speaker 1: judge score the second round, the round in which Tank

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Speaker 1: knockdown Garcia as a fucking ten ten nine. I can understand,

2191
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Speaker 1: BC don't agree with it, but I get to understand

2192
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Speaker 1: because this argument for folks who don't know. Folks think

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Speaker 1: if you get a knocked out it's a mandatory ten eight.

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Speaker 1: It is not. It is almost every case a ten

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Speaker 1: eight I assuming that the person wins the round or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But the judge has the option of saying, well, the

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Speaker 1: other guy did really better work, so instead of saying

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Speaker 1: it a ten eight, I'm gonna make it a ten

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Speaker 1: to nine. You do have that option. What I don't

2200
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Speaker 1: get is fucking ten ten What were they watching?

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Speaker 2: I think that has to be an error. That was

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Speaker 2: Dave Moretti, who was one of the most you know,

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01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 2: respected Ben here forever. Ben always seems to be down

2204
01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:39,880
Speaker 2: the middle in the big fights. But the thing I

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Speaker 2: didn't like is all three judges had it the same.

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Speaker 2: There was a ten ten, there was a ten nine,

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01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:46,280
Speaker 2: and there was a ten to nine, and again like,

2208
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 2: it's not impossible that you end up at ten nine there.

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Speaker 2: But you know, did I think Ryan controlled that round?

2210
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:53,639
Speaker 2: You yet it was his best work of the fight.

2211
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:55,800
Speaker 2: I thought he had some good moments there. I didn't

2212
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 2: think it was automatic that he was so dominant that

2213
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:03,639
Speaker 2: he even win with a clean flush tank knockdown, that

2214
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:05,920
Speaker 2: you're going to give him back the point. But to

2215
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Speaker 2: go ten ten is just that's almost saying you thought

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01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:13,760
Speaker 2: it was a ten eight round for Ryan without the knockdown,

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01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:16,080
Speaker 2: and then suddenly we're even No, that's not even how

2218
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 2: the scoring system works in the ten point must system.

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Speaker 2: So look that I was blown away by all three judges.

2220
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:24,919
Speaker 2: Maybe they're clinging to some letter of the law aspect

2221
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:27,679
Speaker 2: of that that we're not thinking about. But in terms

2222
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Speaker 2: of you know, how we see this done and how

2223
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 2: we do it ourselves when we have to do for

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01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:33,599
Speaker 2: work purposes, Dude, how do you know that's ten eight tank?

2225
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:35,600
Speaker 2: I mean that punch was the biggest punch of the

2226
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Speaker 2: fight in a lot of ways, you know what I mean?

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01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:41,040
Speaker 2: Like that's and he dropped him hard. Come one, really.

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01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 1: Come on, don't I don't get it again. Ten nine

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01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:48,639
Speaker 1: I don't agree with, but I can rationalize Steve Farhood

2230
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:50,840
Speaker 1: by the way. Ten eight, I want to point that out. Yeah,

2231
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 1: the legend Steve Farhood knows what's up all right from

2232
01:43:56,040 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 1: at like Underscore, someone Underscore gives underscores an scores. Fuck,

2233
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 1: I mean, just the worst name in the country. Here

2234
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 1: we go, What, in your opinion is the worst stylistic

2235
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:11,560
Speaker 1: matchup for Tank Smart high output punchers by Donad Barrena

2236
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:13,719
Speaker 1: like is the first thing that comes to mind? Nobc.

2237
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Speaker 1: The first thing that comes to mind for me is

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01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:20,200
Speaker 1: someone who has judicious output but really really good slick

2239
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:23,599
Speaker 1: movement setting up at angles a good jab by the way,

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Speaker 1: because that's another thing that Tank really frustrated Ryan wid

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Speaker 1: with the pinning and then the touching and the glove control.

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Speaker 1: Someone like to me, when I think of who's here's

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Speaker 1: my answer, who's the toughest fight for Tank in the

2244
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 1: one thirty five pounds division? It's Shaker Stevenson in my opinion.

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01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 2: Yep, Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad. You're on that train too.

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01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 2: That's where I live, Luke. But I will say this,

2247
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 2: while we have questions whether Devin Haney could be in

2248
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:48,639
Speaker 2: a fight in which he exchanges heavy you know, heavy

2249
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:53,320
Speaker 2: damage and hangs in there, I don't know that Jorge

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Speaker 2: lenaris moment with Haney is sort of the same stain

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01:44:56,360 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 2: or stamp he has to carry that Ryan Garcia had

2252
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:00,760
Speaker 2: to carry about geting dropped by Lou Campbell, but then

2253
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:04,760
Speaker 2: getting up and finishing him. Uh. You know, Haini's got

2254
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:08,599
Speaker 2: such great defense, with the size, with the complete well

2255
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Speaker 2: rounded game, and with the the just next level control

2256
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:15,640
Speaker 2: of those negotiation parts that happened in the distance, in

2257
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 2: the footwork and all that set up. Dude, he is

2258
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:20,920
Speaker 2: a He's probably on paper as bad of a stylistic

2259
01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:24,200
Speaker 2: matchup for Tank as there is. I agree with you

2260
01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:26,839
Speaker 2: that Shakurge just might be so next level on his speed,

2261
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:30,559
Speaker 2: reaction time and understanding of footwork and angles and set

2262
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:35,200
Speaker 2: up that I like that too. I'm interested though, to

2263
01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:37,759
Speaker 2: see because when Tank fought at one forty against Mario

2264
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:39,479
Speaker 2: Barrio's like he had to work for that loop, you

2265
01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:40,760
Speaker 2: know what I mean, He had to You know that

2266
01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 2: that wasn't easy, Like we all kind of think Tank

2267
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:46,040
Speaker 2: eventually goes to forty and stays there. And you know,

2268
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:48,519
Speaker 2: we've heard Calvin Ford tell us as trainer that they

2269
01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 2: see him hurt in one point fifty fours in middleweights

2270
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 2: even insparring, Like they see him being able to carry

2271
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:56,840
Speaker 2: the power, But what about being able to carry the

2272
01:45:56,880 --> 01:45:59,960
Speaker 2: idea that like the size, every time you step up,

2273
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:02,720
Speaker 2: the size difference is also huge if someone's gonna be

2274
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 2: physical against you, or if somebody does have a quick

2275
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 2: enough and strong enough jab with the footwork where they

2276
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:12,120
Speaker 2: can really make that size difference a problem. That's what

2277
01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:14,320
Speaker 2: I'm looking for more as he moves up to forty

2278
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:16,680
Speaker 2: and starts taking on these rangier guys, Like if you

2279
01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 2: imagine him against Seyo Fimo, you may like his chances,

2280
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:21,400
Speaker 2: but that's a dangerous fight just physically for it.

2281
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think that's a great point. And we'll

2282
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:26,960
Speaker 1: have to see how much longer he can stay at

2283
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 1: one thirty five or that's a relevant question or not,

2284
01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:31,720
Speaker 1: you know, but I think your point is correct also,

2285
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:33,240
Speaker 1: But against the one forty ers, I mean, the two

2286
01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:35,720
Speaker 1: Tank is again against Mario Barrios. Even if you want

2287
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:38,720
Speaker 1: to ignore the Garcia fight. He's a devastating body puncher. Man,

2288
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:41,599
Speaker 1: he's just fucking those guys are gonna have a tough

2289
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:46,719
Speaker 1: time with him too. Okay from at Faihi Liam, who

2290
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 1: probably is almost certainly not an American given that his

2291
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:52,679
Speaker 1: first name is Liam, Who is the most confident athlete?

2292
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 1: What the fuck kind of question? Right?

2293
01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:56,679
Speaker 2: Well, Marquez named his son Liam is a little guy.

2294
01:46:56,960 --> 01:47:01,760
Speaker 1: Come on, Okay, but that's like, you know, Mexican. At

2295
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 1: the same time, you know what I'm saying.

2296
01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:05,479
Speaker 2: Oh, it's not Irish. I'll tell you that much.

2297
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:10,040
Speaker 1: Luke's definitely not Irish. He's definitely not Irish. Or unless

2298
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:11,519
Speaker 1: his first name is like, you know, it could be

2299
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:14,559
Speaker 1: Liam O Marquez. You don't know, it could be that way. Yeah,

2300
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure, Yeah, it definitely isn't. Who is the most

2301
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:19,559
Speaker 1: confident athlete in professional sports today? Can you make a

2302
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:20,880
Speaker 1: case for Javonte's number one?

2303
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:21,160
Speaker 2: Fuck?

2304
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 1: No, you can't. Like he's up there. I gets me.

2305
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't understand this question, But like, dude, how is

2306
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:28,639
Speaker 1: it you're gonna laugh at this? You know, because you're

2307
01:47:29,479 --> 01:47:31,479
Speaker 1: you know, well, you're just an American ass white. But

2308
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:33,720
Speaker 1: it's I'm making a very fair argument here.

2309
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 2: Wow, I'll be the judge of that, Luke. Okay, first

2310
01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:38,479
Speaker 2: of all.

2311
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Speaker 1: First of all, whoever is dunking on someone at Rucker

2312
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Speaker 1: Park in Harlem is going to be your most confident

2313
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Speaker 1: athlete professional. I don't know, but like do this guy.

2314
01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:47,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know who Early Holland is.

2315
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:49,720
Speaker 1: He's this twenty two year old kid who plays for

2316
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:53,559
Speaker 1: Manchester City who is absolutely dude. You can laugh at

2317
01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:56,759
Speaker 1: me if you want. He is fucking setting the world

2318
01:47:56,840 --> 01:48:00,920
Speaker 1: on fire with scoring rapports that are just absurd. Yeah, well,

2319
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:03,480
Speaker 1: your world is hot dogs and fucking gas stations.

2320
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 2: With Kate Abdough for three days. She had to mention

2321
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:06,240
Speaker 2: that guy once.

2322
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:08,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, ask her about it. We'll see what she says.

2323
01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:11,200
Speaker 1: You know, there's reverential tones for this twenty two year

2324
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:13,240
Speaker 1: old kid him, But like, even if it's not him,

2325
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:14,439
Speaker 1: who's gonna be Like.

2326
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 2: Jones is pretty confidently.

2327
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, okay by these basketball players who talk shit

2328
01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 1: about each other, Like would you put Lebron up there

2329
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:22,559
Speaker 1: or not?

2330
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:24,600
Speaker 2: I think Lebron's confident. I know this.

2331
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:27,280
Speaker 1: You see Lebron getting Dylan Brooks's face before the game.

2332
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 1: I did, I did?

2333
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, he was handling business like I am.

2334
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 1: You know, he was saying shit to him, Like I

2335
01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:34,679
Speaker 1: don't get.

2336
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:37,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I get that there's people that like from

2337
01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 2: the beginning, they're just like, Lebron's not my guy and

2338
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:40,960
Speaker 2: I hate him, or he beat my team and I

2339
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:43,160
Speaker 2: hate him. But I feel like everybody I know hates Lebron.

2340
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:45,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't hate Lebron, but I'm definitely Lebron.

2341
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:48,519
Speaker 1: I'm not a Lebron fan. Like, you know, I liked

2342
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 1: Kobe a lot. We grew up when Jordan was God,

2343
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:52,320
Speaker 1: you know. So it's just a little hard for me to.

2344
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:54,720
Speaker 2: Like Lauren, Larry Bird Luke and Magic Larry Bird Larry.

2345
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:56,600
Speaker 1: But yes, I don't want to take away your white

2346
01:48:56,920 --> 01:48:58,639
Speaker 1: your white heroes from you.

2347
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:02,800
Speaker 2: He did say magic, not white magic. Veto Melnecky, jun

2348
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:03,800
Speaker 2: your look okay.

2349
01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:05,040
Speaker 1: Hey did he win? Did he win?

2350
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:06,559
Speaker 2: He did win? Yeah, you look great.

2351
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 1: I like Vito. He's a nice kid. Uh, It's just

2352
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:11,559
Speaker 1: it's always he's got a chain that says white magic

2353
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:13,840
Speaker 1: on it, and I'm always like, well, a black guy

2354
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 1: named him that, So I think he gets away with it.

2355
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. But anyway, the point I want to

2356
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 1: make was I've never been a Lebron guy. But like

2357
01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, when he does the fake reading bit, he's

2358
01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:25,720
Speaker 1: just carrying books like he's going to class, and like

2359
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:27,280
Speaker 1: someone asked him about it, he's like, you know, what's

2360
01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:29,920
Speaker 1: your what's your favorite part about the book? He's like, Yo,

2361
01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:32,320
Speaker 1: all the words, bro, all the words in that book.

2362
01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:36,280
Speaker 1: You ever seen that? Oh God, it's so embarrassing. So

2363
01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 1: he's always he's obviously a bit of a corporate like

2364
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:41,720
Speaker 1: disingenuous dude, but I don't hate him. He's obviously a

2365
01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:43,120
Speaker 1: great player. You know, he's tremendous.

2366
01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:45,160
Speaker 2: You know what I didn't realize Luke is uh I

2367
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:47,719
Speaker 2: had andre Ward on Morning Combat on Friday, and anybody

2368
01:49:47,720 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 2: can watch to watch that interview at Like.

2369
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:51,080
Speaker 1: I did watch that one great interview.

2370
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:53,800
Speaker 2: Thank you enjoy talking to him. I didn't realize that

2371
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 2: Lebron's team were the creative behind that documentary s O G.

2372
01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 2: Book of War that's coming out in June's second on Showtime.

2373
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:03,840
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that part of it. But hey, they

2374
01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:05,599
Speaker 2: got MPT in that dock. You gotta watch that doc

2375
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 2: It's really good.

2376
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:08,400
Speaker 1: I've not seen the doc. Is it out yet?

2377
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:11,519
Speaker 2: June second? June second, but I could I could acquire

2378
01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:12,360
Speaker 2: a copy for you.

2379
01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 1: If you curious. Yeah, all right, So then we go

2380
01:50:16,360 --> 01:50:20,519
Speaker 1: to at Coiled Consciousness BC, How insane was seeing the

2381
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 1: David A lot a lot of questions about Davis Garcia

2382
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:25,360
Speaker 1: here from the producers, How insane was seeing the David

2383
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:28,599
Speaker 1: morel k of Yamaguchi Falcal live. The better question here

2384
01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:31,880
Speaker 1: is what kind of position did you get in the

2385
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 1: T mobile arena? Because as you know BC, sometimes they

2386
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 1: have us uh in the blimp in the circling overhead

2387
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:43,080
Speaker 1: outside the arena fr our broadcast position? Did you have

2388
01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:43,960
Speaker 1: a better one? This time?

2389
01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:46,280
Speaker 2: In DC? We were up in the catwalk perch that

2390
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:49,160
Speaker 2: like yeah, uh no, we were in uh. We were

2391
01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:50,960
Speaker 2: on the top of the one hundreds level, so the

2392
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 2: same level as like Brian Custer was at the main

2393
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:56,400
Speaker 2: showtime desk. Our area was tight and small, and I

2394
01:50:56,479 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 2: kept spilling drinks on myself, Luke. But uh, yeah, So

2395
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:03,000
Speaker 2: I watched on the on the screen with the headphones on,

2396
01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:05,320
Speaker 2: listening to the broadcast because I was doing a live

2397
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:07,960
Speaker 2: blog for CBS, so I was not looking at the ring.

2398
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:11,280
Speaker 2: But how is any incredible knockout look when you get

2399
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:14,000
Speaker 2: the chance to sit close up front. It's it's and

2400
01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 2: it's it's scintillating and also dangerous and devastating at the

2401
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:18,400
Speaker 2: same time.

2402
01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:20,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I gotta say it was kind

2403
01:51:20,479 --> 01:51:22,960
Speaker 1: of concerning because to your point, like, was it the

2404
01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 1: fight before this where he beat your biscinay or was

2405
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:26,559
Speaker 1: it two fights ago or whatever?

2406
01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:27,599
Speaker 2: That was the last fight?

2407
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and that dude went into a medically

2408
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:32,360
Speaker 1: induced coma and then he face face plants this one.

2409
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:34,400
Speaker 1: And this dude did not get up right away. I

2410
01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:37,479
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, man, like, poor David Morrell,

2411
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:40,960
Speaker 1: he's just doing his job. But yeah, that's tough. But

2412
01:51:41,120 --> 01:51:42,960
Speaker 1: he looked like he was okay in the end, so

2413
01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:46,120
Speaker 1: obviously he's a devastating threat. And then lastly from at

2414
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 1: mx VR, Mr fucking I mean these names, what are

2415
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:54,240
Speaker 1: your first thoughts on the announced about between great question,

2416
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 1: Love this question Sean Brady and Jack Dala Maddalena at

2417
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:01,720
Speaker 1: UF two ninety see you go first, your initial.

2418
01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:05,920
Speaker 2: Thoughts Sean Bradley, Sean Brady, our guy, not Sean Bradley.

2419
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:08,920
Speaker 2: Sean Brady is gonna dive like right back into the

2420
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:10,680
Speaker 2: deep end of the pool where he came out of

2421
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:13,080
Speaker 2: against Bilall where it was a tough loss. We he

2422
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:16,160
Speaker 2: knows he has to go back and get after it. Well, Luke,

2423
01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:20,400
Speaker 2: he's getting after it against you know, a devastating offensive

2424
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:23,600
Speaker 2: machine here. This is a tough ass fight. But I

2425
01:52:23,640 --> 01:52:25,360
Speaker 2: do have to say, after talking to Sean Brady and

2426
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:27,800
Speaker 2: getting to know him during that RSD like this is

2427
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 2: the only type of fight he wants. He you know,

2428
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 2: he wants he wants to be great, and uh, he's

2429
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:34,400
Speaker 2: gonna have to prove it here. Dude. This is I mean,

2430
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:37,960
Speaker 2: obviously you know, in some ways it's wrestler versus striker here, Luke.

2431
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 2: But dude, jack Dale Madelana can do a lot of

2432
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 2: things there, especially on the feet. This is gonna be interesting.

2433
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is gonna be a great test for Brady

2434
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:47,200
Speaker 1: who obviously did not you know, did it did not

2435
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:49,639
Speaker 1: look great for him on the feet, even against bloh Mohammad.

2436
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 1: You would imagine if Boalo Mohammad can do that, Jack

2437
01:52:52,160 --> 01:52:53,800
Speaker 1: dalea Maddelena can do a lot of that as well.

2438
01:52:53,880 --> 01:52:56,679
Speaker 1: The difference is that Blal Mohammad is a really great

2439
01:52:56,720 --> 01:53:00,439
Speaker 1: defensive wrestler and Dana jack dalea Maddelena is I think

2440
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:03,160
Speaker 1: developing in that regard and has shown some ability. But

2441
01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:05,240
Speaker 1: Sean Brady is a different animal. And I also want

2442
01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 1: to point out Sean Brady a black belt jiu jitsu

2443
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 1: as well, So like, if you can make this fight

2444
01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:11,800
Speaker 1: his kind of fight, he'll win. If he can't get

2445
01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:13,400
Speaker 1: the fight to the floor, it's hard to see how

2446
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:16,240
Speaker 1: he outstrikes dale A. Madelena, but you want to talk

2447
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:20,240
Speaker 1: about it's interesting too be see because Brady is coming.

2448
01:53:20,360 --> 01:53:22,080
Speaker 1: I think his stock has been hurt a little bit

2449
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:25,280
Speaker 1: by the loss, obviously to blam Mohammed. So it's stocked out.

2450
01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:28,320
Speaker 1: Madelena is on a rocket ship and they're meeting right here.

2451
01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 1: It's a tough one man, huge stakes in either direction.

2452
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:34,439
Speaker 1: I commend both gentlemen for taking this contest.

2453
01:53:34,479 --> 01:53:36,679
Speaker 2: We were talking about that DM a couple ago about

2454
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:39,720
Speaker 2: who's the most confident combat sports athlete? That are all

2455
01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:42,719
Speaker 2: of athletes that we think I forgot Canelo in that discussion,

2456
01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:46,439
Speaker 2: he's like noticeably confident, But dude, Jack Madelena for a

2457
01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:49,320
Speaker 2: young up and comer, mister Bob Dabelina here Luke, he

2458
01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 2: looks supremely confident when he goes in there and executes.

2459
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 2: So that's another guy like where you just the star

2460
01:53:55,439 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 2: is oozing off of him. It's obviously going to be

2461
01:53:57,200 --> 01:53:58,920
Speaker 2: up to him to put it together and stay on

2462
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:02,320
Speaker 2: this run. But man, this's a tough This good match making. Okay,

2463
01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:05,280
Speaker 2: everything I said about nunas Pania three, Luke, this good

2464
01:54:05,320 --> 01:54:07,439
Speaker 2: match making? Right here? Can I offer you one more

2465
01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:08,639
Speaker 2: good piece of match making?

2466
01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:09,000
Speaker 1: Yes?

2467
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:11,559
Speaker 2: That got me fired up? This is almost a super

2468
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 2: sloppy Wednesday Choice May twentieth, UFC Fight Night. You ready

2469
01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:21,320
Speaker 2: for this? Carolina koval Kaevich versus Vanessa Demopolis. Dude, right,

2470
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:24,200
Speaker 2: come on, I.

2471
01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 1: Like how you go right, Like like I'm on the

2472
01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:28,560
Speaker 1: same pants around.

2473
01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:32,800
Speaker 2: My That's gonna be a weird and awesome fight, right.

2474
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:38,000
Speaker 1: It could be awesome. Yes, I wouldn't. I wouldn't deny that.

2475
01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:41,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I mean, I wouldn't put it like massively

2476
01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:43,000
Speaker 1: on my radar. But you know we've got different kinds

2477
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 1: of radars, no.

2478
01:54:45,080 --> 01:54:48,720
Speaker 2: Different sized radars, apparently, Luke. Okay, yeah, all right.

2479
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:52,760
Speaker 1: You love the Eastern European.

2480
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 2: You know I love jiu jitsu obviously, look obviously right?

2481
01:54:57,760 --> 01:54:58,360
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2482
01:54:58,600 --> 01:54:59,080
Speaker 2: Alright?

2483
01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:04,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Ryan Campbell noted lover of jiu jitsu, but only

2484
01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 1: when the women are from Eastern Europe in one hundred

2485
01:55:06,640 --> 01:55:06,920
Speaker 1: and fifty.

2486
01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:08,640
Speaker 2: It's the more purest form of it.

2487
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:08,960
Speaker 1: Luke.

2488
01:55:09,040 --> 01:55:12,160
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, shit, is.

2489
01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:15,400
Speaker 1: It is time for your bullshit? BC's Yeah.

2490
01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:17,280
Speaker 2: I scoured the globe because we haven't done this in

2491
01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:19,720
Speaker 2: like three weeks to a month, you know. But what

2492
01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:22,680
Speaker 2: I found were the good and the bad, and the ugly,

2493
01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:24,720
Speaker 2: the highs and lows, all the in between, and combat

2494
01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:27,640
Speaker 2: sports and beyond. This is the shit you should have seen,

2495
01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:30,280
Speaker 2: or if you already have, let's shoe what Luke thinks

2496
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:32,840
Speaker 2: about it. Thank you. It's called have you seen this ship?

2497
01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2498
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:39,920
Speaker 2: There you go? Oh god, oh get dude. The guy

2499
01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:41,800
Speaker 2: next to me in first class last night, Luke, how

2500
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:44,240
Speaker 2: about that nice little drop there? Yeah, I was in

2501
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:46,800
Speaker 2: the first class, Luke. The guy next to me was

2502
01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:49,880
Speaker 2: like probably like fifty, and he was like kind of muscular,

2503
01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 2: and he had all these briefcases. But dude, he was

2504
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:56,760
Speaker 2: so drunk that he just kept like openly farting really grossly,

2505
01:55:56,840 --> 01:55:59,320
Speaker 2: and then laughing at himself farting grossly. And then the

2506
01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:02,800
Speaker 2: whole first last area was just smelling ransid, and then

2507
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:05,160
Speaker 2: he spilled his drink all over me. Luke, it was

2508
01:56:05,320 --> 01:56:10,600
Speaker 2: uh yeah, it was wild wild, Thank you for that. Okay, Hey,

2509
01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 2: let's set.

2510
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 1: By the way. I also like farting on airplanes. Because

2511
01:56:15,320 --> 01:56:17,120
Speaker 1: of the white noise, you can't hear anything. I just

2512
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 1: let him go, dude.

2513
01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know you did. People always think

2514
01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:24,200
Speaker 2: I'm only in this segment, Luke, for elder abuse and

2515
01:56:24,240 --> 01:56:26,840
Speaker 2: other violent things. How about something wholesome to start the day.

2516
01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:30,080
Speaker 2: Did you see this outfield MLB proposal?

2517
01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:34,200
Speaker 1: Oh? Fuck no, I hope they get divorced. Come on,

2518
01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:40,000
Speaker 1: let's see it.

2519
01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:40,680
Speaker 2: It was touching.

2520
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:47,160
Speaker 1: Look at this dumb piece of ship. Can you if

2521
01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:57,360
Speaker 1: you're if you're this person's significant other, how do you? Oh?

2522
01:56:57,920 --> 01:56:58,200
Speaker 2: Wow?

2523
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what any your spouse wants to see

2524
01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:03,280
Speaker 1: your soon to be husband in cuffs?

2525
01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:07,280
Speaker 2: No, no, no, noted in Mutumbo house.

2526
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:07,520
Speaker 1: There.

2527
01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:10,800
Speaker 2: I was at the Mets security. I couldn't tell where

2528
01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:12,760
Speaker 2: that was, Luke. It's it's all baseball to me.

2529
01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:15,560
Speaker 1: Hey, let's play When they knocked his hat off when

2530
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:16,880
Speaker 1: they tackled him, that's when you knew it was a

2531
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:17,400
Speaker 1: good tackle.

2532
01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:20,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, let's play a new game, Luke. Not sponsored

2533
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:23,320
Speaker 2: by Mamidas. This is called rate that form. Okay, I

2534
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:26,000
Speaker 2: need you to rate the form from one to ten. Luke,

2535
01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:28,320
Speaker 2: your old buddy Drake is back on the pads. Let's

2536
01:57:28,320 --> 01:57:32,640
Speaker 2: get a Luke rate that form?

2537
01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Not great? I mean, be bigger. What is he

2538
01:57:36,280 --> 01:57:39,640
Speaker 1: trying to cover the entire fucking Canadian province he's in

2539
01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:40,080
Speaker 1: right now?

2540
01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:42,240
Speaker 2: Can I get a one to ten rating here?

2541
01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:48,320
Speaker 1: What the fuck was that shoulder movie? I mean, okay, yeah, three? Maybe?

2542
01:57:49,040 --> 01:57:51,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on. Hey, you know this great

2543
01:57:51,160 --> 01:57:53,320
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer was back getting warmed up. You know,

2544
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:54,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw.

2545
01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:56,840
Speaker 1: How I've seen old ladies hand making a rape as

2546
01:57:56,880 --> 01:57:57,800
Speaker 1: a hit harder than that.

2547
01:57:57,880 --> 01:58:00,600
Speaker 2: I mean, let's look, did you see how Chuck Ledell

2548
01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:03,560
Speaker 2: was in camp with Alex Padeda and then was partying

2549
01:58:03,560 --> 01:58:06,000
Speaker 2: afterwards with aut Asnya. But here's him in camp, Luke

2550
01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:09,280
Speaker 2: with his old buddy Glover. Rate that format at this age.

2551
01:58:09,680 --> 01:58:11,760
Speaker 1: We're talking about a legend here. But this is getting

2552
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:14,720
Speaker 1: this is getting bad.

2553
01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:19,200
Speaker 2: Oh. The thing is I will agree outlaws do live forever, Luke.

2554
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:20,000
Speaker 2: I will agree with that.

2555
01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:21,960
Speaker 1: Look at the thing to me is like, dude, Glover

2556
01:58:22,080 --> 01:58:24,240
Speaker 1: is not exactly like a spring chicken, but just look

2557
01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:26,200
Speaker 1: how much looser he is. You know what I'm saying.

2558
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:29,760
Speaker 1: Everything on Chuck looks like he's like tight, he's got

2559
01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:31,280
Speaker 1: he's lost mobility in places.

2560
01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:37,040
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Chuck's Chuck's shirt's pretty tight in this next one, Luke,

2561
01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:39,000
Speaker 2: if you can you continue to rate that form, but

2562
01:58:39,080 --> 01:58:42,520
Speaker 2: not in Chuck's punch throwing. Him and his old buddy

2563
01:58:42,640 --> 01:58:47,160
Speaker 2: Tito got back together to go dancing at Autasanya's post

2564
01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:51,520
Speaker 2: fight win party. Luke MVP was there, ousman, but look

2565
01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:57,520
Speaker 2: at these two old friends getting after it. Dude, Chuck,

2566
01:58:57,720 --> 01:58:59,640
Speaker 2: I know Chuck will knock all of us out until

2567
01:58:59,640 --> 01:59:02,520
Speaker 2: he until his last breath, But Dude, I don't know

2568
01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:05,200
Speaker 2: if with that gun, if you could do the mohawk anymore,

2569
01:59:05,200 --> 01:59:07,480
Speaker 2: I don't like one of them's got to go anyone.

2570
01:59:07,680 --> 01:59:09,560
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, Chuck's the legend. God bless him. He

2571
01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:12,640
Speaker 1: gave me some of my very favorite MMA moments, win

2572
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:16,040
Speaker 1: or lose. But does he know he he doesn't have

2573
01:59:16,120 --> 01:59:20,320
Speaker 1: to rock the mohawk anymore? Yeah? I know, many you know.

2574
01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:22,040
Speaker 2: What was he doing hanging out with Tito? Like, don't

2575
01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:23,520
Speaker 2: don't ruin k fabe for me?

2576
01:59:23,600 --> 01:59:26,160
Speaker 1: Right, Although Tito's still in great shape, I'll give Tito

2577
01:59:26,200 --> 01:59:29,520
Speaker 1: some credit there. I don't know. I don't know why

2578
01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:31,400
Speaker 1: anyone would want to hang out with Tito, but they

2579
01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:31,880
Speaker 1: do so.

2580
01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:34,520
Speaker 2: All right, all right, Luke, while we're at it, why

2581
01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:38,720
Speaker 2: don't you rate the grappling form of Pro Basketball Hall

2582
01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:41,320
Speaker 2: of Famer Tim Duncan Here who ran into Luke Rockhold

2583
01:59:41,360 --> 01:59:44,680
Speaker 2: and they started getting after it.

2584
01:59:44,800 --> 01:59:47,920
Speaker 1: Dude, how long Jesus Christ. Tim Duncan's got some long

2585
01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:48,600
Speaker 1: ass arms.

2586
01:59:48,920 --> 01:59:51,600
Speaker 2: So rock Hold would say after this that Duncan was

2587
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:53,200
Speaker 2: like insanely strong.

2588
01:59:53,600 --> 01:59:56,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and dude, he's got good you can see he's

2589
01:59:57,000 --> 02:00:02,160
Speaker 1: having a hard time under hooking through pretty good. Actually, okay, good, okay.

2590
02:00:02,480 --> 02:00:05,760
Speaker 2: Jason Perrillo in the house. I think that's a nice dog.

2591
02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:08,200
Speaker 2: The bounty Hunter impersonator behind him. Did you see that guy?

2592
02:00:08,400 --> 02:00:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, yeah, look at Jason. Their movement pushing everyone around.

2593
02:00:14,160 --> 02:00:14,760
Speaker 1: I didn't see that.

2594
02:00:15,040 --> 02:00:16,720
Speaker 2: The Admiral David Robinson was.

2595
02:00:16,680 --> 02:00:18,920
Speaker 1: Well, that was the admiral, dude, shouts of the Admiral

2596
02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:20,720
Speaker 1: Naval Academy's fine at shout out to Anno.

2597
02:00:20,840 --> 02:00:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, he's old as ship now, but real nice guy. Hey, Luke,

2598
02:00:23,960 --> 02:00:26,160
Speaker 2: let's go to the Jersey of the week spotted out

2599
02:00:26,160 --> 02:00:28,200
Speaker 2: in the wild. Let's get your thoughts.

2600
02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:35,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I was hoping that would be a Hartford

2601
02:00:35,880 --> 02:00:39,040
Speaker 1: Whaler's jersey. Unfortunately it's Tampa Bay Lightning. Yeah, but it

2602
02:00:39,120 --> 02:00:41,320
Speaker 1: is very fitting that it's Florida. I will say that.

2603
02:00:42,520 --> 02:00:44,760
Speaker 2: Oh wow, hey, Luke, you know who had an awful weekend?

2604
02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:47,680
Speaker 2: Deanna Bennett. Remember when she came in like eleven pounds

2605
02:00:47,680 --> 02:00:49,480
Speaker 2: overweight and didn't want to get back on the scale.

2606
02:00:49,720 --> 02:00:53,920
Speaker 2: Did you see this Showtime produced pre fight interview package

2607
02:00:53,960 --> 02:00:56,960
Speaker 2: that they put out. I didn't know much about Deanna Bennett,

2608
02:00:57,000 --> 02:01:01,560
Speaker 2: but now I do. Let's get your thoughts.

2609
02:01:02,160 --> 02:01:05,840
Speaker 3: Oh hello, my name is Dianna Bennett. And did I

2610
02:01:05,880 --> 02:01:09,520
Speaker 3: mention I'm a weirdo? I'd be like, and he would

2611
02:01:09,560 --> 02:01:12,240
Speaker 3: be like, I can strike with the best of them.

2612
02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:15,680
Speaker 3: I can grapple with the best as well. But if

2613
02:01:15,680 --> 02:01:21,920
Speaker 3: you get within my space, I will with you. My

2614
02:01:22,000 --> 02:01:24,720
Speaker 3: nickname Vitamin D actually came from my good friend bar.

2615
02:01:24,960 --> 02:01:26,640
Speaker 3: I mean, you give a friend one or two lap

2616
02:01:26,720 --> 02:01:30,160
Speaker 3: dances and send in appropriateness and walk away with a

2617
02:01:30,200 --> 02:01:36,000
Speaker 3: different nickname. One of my favorite messages I ever got

2618
02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:38,120
Speaker 3: was a guy that was like, I had a thing

2619
02:01:38,240 --> 02:01:40,320
Speaker 3: for strong women's feet. I just want to be your

2620
02:01:40,320 --> 02:01:45,240
Speaker 3: weak little foot slave. Who's my weak little foot slave. This,

2621
02:01:47,640 --> 02:01:49,680
Speaker 3: But that's not what we're here to talk about. I'm

2622
02:01:49,680 --> 02:01:54,080
Speaker 3: gonna say. Sometimes it's not just Deanna. Sometimes we got

2623
02:01:54,120 --> 02:01:57,520
Speaker 3: some other personalities kind of looming in the midst. The

2624
02:01:57,560 --> 02:02:00,320
Speaker 3: main one was Chuck. When I start talking about country

2625
02:02:00,360 --> 02:02:03,560
Speaker 3: accent right there? Best best Chuck right there? What he

2626
02:02:03,560 --> 02:02:04,680
Speaker 3: doesn't believe in dinosaurs?

2627
02:02:04,720 --> 02:02:05,720
Speaker 4: By the way, what.

2628
02:02:09,600 --> 02:02:14,400
Speaker 3: Do I peep? I saw okay ingreands ingreients.

2629
02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:16,560
Speaker 2: Before fighting.

2630
02:02:16,640 --> 02:02:20,760
Speaker 3: I was awkward and quiet and weird, like heavy emphasis

2631
02:02:20,760 --> 02:02:24,280
Speaker 3: on the weird. I can show it.

2632
02:02:34,000 --> 02:02:35,440
Speaker 2: I mean, they didn't have to publish that.

2633
02:02:36,760 --> 02:02:40,760
Speaker 1: It's uh not my cup of tea?

2634
02:02:43,040 --> 02:02:46,360
Speaker 2: All right? Well, you know, have you seen that ship? Hey?

2635
02:02:46,480 --> 02:02:48,240
Speaker 2: Check out this guy at the amusement park, Luke. I

2636
02:02:48,280 --> 02:02:51,280
Speaker 2: used to love playing practical jokes at the amusement park.

2637
02:02:51,520 --> 02:02:53,520
Speaker 2: You get up in like the monorel and you throw

2638
02:02:53,560 --> 02:02:55,480
Speaker 2: pennies down at people. How about this guy, Luke?

2639
02:02:56,000 --> 02:03:05,040
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's just chucking fish. Okay, it's sort of barbaric and shitty,

2640
02:03:05,120 --> 02:03:06,880
Speaker 1: but also fucking hilarious.

2641
02:03:07,280 --> 02:03:09,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty awesome. I mean that's me.

2642
02:03:10,680 --> 02:03:12,880
Speaker 1: He's got to take David's timing. Boy, look at it.

2643
02:03:13,080 --> 02:03:13,920
Speaker 1: It's a right clean.

2644
02:03:14,280 --> 02:03:16,920
Speaker 2: Hey, this is a good transition to some elder abuse. Look,

2645
02:03:16,960 --> 02:03:18,760
Speaker 2: it's time for the fails of the week. Here, let's

2646
02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:20,560
Speaker 2: see what we got going on. Let's go to the

2647
02:03:20,600 --> 02:03:21,520
Speaker 2: pickleball courts.

2648
02:03:22,360 --> 02:03:24,480
Speaker 1: Do pick a ball? This ship gets vicious on pickleball.

2649
02:03:24,480 --> 02:03:25,640
Speaker 1: I don't think it doesn't. Yo.

2650
02:03:25,720 --> 02:03:27,560
Speaker 2: J Aaron lives on that pick a ball court.

2651
02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:32,560
Speaker 1: All right, Oh, big Wortha just went face first. Huh

2652
02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:33,200
Speaker 1: Is that a man?

2653
02:03:35,280 --> 02:03:37,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a man. Baby.

2654
02:03:37,520 --> 02:03:41,080
Speaker 1: Well look at look at Boss Hogg playing fucking Oh god.

2655
02:03:41,400 --> 02:03:43,240
Speaker 2: Hey, let's go on to the baseball field.

2656
02:03:43,440 --> 02:03:45,480
Speaker 1: No, you know who that was? Roll one more time,

2657
02:03:45,600 --> 02:03:49,080
Speaker 1: Roll one more time. He looks like Uncle Vito from

2658
02:03:49,320 --> 02:03:51,920
Speaker 1: the Ban Marjera show. You know I'm talking about who

2659
02:03:52,000 --> 02:03:55,960
Speaker 1: just mumbled and ship.

2660
02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:59,280
Speaker 2: That might actually be him, don Vito. They're saying, all right,

2661
02:03:59,320 --> 02:04:01,560
Speaker 2: let's keep it going. Let's go off to the outfield here, Luke,

2662
02:04:02,440 --> 02:04:04,320
Speaker 2: this guy might not be an elder yet, but this

2663
02:04:04,520 --> 02:04:06,760
Speaker 2: is a looks like an old bitch right here?

2664
02:04:09,200 --> 02:04:11,320
Speaker 1: You know is this I don't know how they catch

2665
02:04:11,360 --> 02:04:13,800
Speaker 1: the ball in the minor leagues, but I don't think

2666
02:04:13,800 --> 02:04:14,600
Speaker 1: it's with your face.

2667
02:04:14,840 --> 02:04:18,400
Speaker 2: No, no, no, Jose Canseko could enjoy that one. Hey,

2668
02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:21,000
Speaker 2: let's go to the escalator. This is always fun when

2669
02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:23,760
Speaker 2: you mix alcohol and moving stares.

2670
02:04:24,120 --> 02:04:26,280
Speaker 1: Bro, You don't know the dangers of the escalator till

2671
02:04:26,320 --> 02:04:28,000
Speaker 1: you try to take your toddler up one. When they're

2672
02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:31,760
Speaker 1: wearing crocs. It's a whole level of American fucking ninja

2673
02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:32,680
Speaker 1: warrior up on that bitch.

2674
02:04:33,600 --> 02:04:38,960
Speaker 2: Look, we are ready for the next drunk woman. Thank you.

2675
02:04:41,280 --> 02:04:44,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh oh, young lady.

2676
02:04:44,640 --> 02:04:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody's paying for her education, Luke. That's what happened

2677
02:04:48,560 --> 02:04:49,400
Speaker 2: about this court.

2678
02:04:49,400 --> 02:04:51,560
Speaker 1: You know or not. We didn't lose a Rhodes scholar

2679
02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:51,960
Speaker 1: down there.

2680
02:04:52,080 --> 02:04:53,120
Speaker 2: No, no, we didn't.

2681
02:04:53,160 --> 02:04:53,600
Speaker 1: We didn't.

2682
02:04:53,640 --> 02:04:56,400
Speaker 2: But this next guy will never have children.

2683
02:04:58,760 --> 02:05:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, you keep fucking with horses. Keep horses. See

2684
02:05:02,040 --> 02:05:03,280
Speaker 1: what happens all right?

2685
02:05:03,360 --> 02:05:06,920
Speaker 2: Hey, bumper sticker of the month time, Luke, you're gonna

2686
02:05:06,920 --> 02:05:09,680
Speaker 2: love these. Is this your truck?

2687
02:05:10,480 --> 02:05:13,920
Speaker 1: I wish I had I can't read it. I wish

2688
02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:15,320
Speaker 1: I had money instead.

2689
02:05:14,960 --> 02:05:25,880
Speaker 2: Of Yeah, that might be mister Saffreddi's truck. Yes it is.

2690
02:05:26,600 --> 02:05:29,120
Speaker 2: It looks like we've actually found whose truck that was, Luke.

2691
02:05:29,200 --> 02:05:41,960
Speaker 2: Let's run the next slide. Ah, I beg, it looked

2692
02:05:41,960 --> 02:05:45,400
Speaker 2: real to me. I'll tell you that much. Okay. If

2693
02:05:45,400 --> 02:05:48,040
Speaker 2: you're wondering what that clip was all about, Luke, I'll

2694
02:05:48,040 --> 02:05:49,200
Speaker 2: tell you in one sign.

2695
02:05:49,280 --> 02:05:55,720
Speaker 1: Okay, penis, Penis, Penis.

2696
02:05:57,680 --> 02:05:59,000
Speaker 2: I love that that made it onto you.

2697
02:05:59,080 --> 02:06:03,800
Speaker 1: People say that college is a waste of money for

2698
02:06:03,800 --> 02:06:07,560
Speaker 1: certain people, and that's definitely true. But this is a

2699
02:06:07,560 --> 02:06:08,720
Speaker 1: fairly useful.

2700
02:06:10,240 --> 02:06:12,680
Speaker 2: And I know that we didn't I know that we

2701
02:06:12,720 --> 02:06:15,160
Speaker 2: didn't clear the next one with you in advance for

2702
02:06:15,240 --> 02:06:17,960
Speaker 2: privacy reasons, but we do have picture of what Luke's

2703
02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:19,280
Speaker 2: actual truck looks like.

2704
02:06:19,920 --> 02:06:27,960
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, listen, truth in advertising. I mean, you

2705
02:06:27,960 --> 02:06:30,920
Speaker 1: can hardly go wrong with this. This gentleman has excellent taste.

2706
02:06:30,920 --> 02:06:32,880
Speaker 1: I want you want to point that out. Luke.

2707
02:06:32,920 --> 02:06:35,880
Speaker 2: Misfits Boxing was back this weekend. Todd Grisham on the.

2708
02:06:35,800 --> 02:06:38,560
Speaker 1: Call gentlemen, as a question, do the people boxing in

2709
02:06:38,600 --> 02:06:41,360
Speaker 1: those things know the rules of boxing? It doesn't seem

2710
02:06:41,440 --> 02:06:41,760
Speaker 1: that way.

2711
02:06:42,760 --> 02:06:44,040
Speaker 2: They don't know many things.

2712
02:06:44,120 --> 02:06:44,280
Speaker 1: Luke.

2713
02:06:44,360 --> 02:06:47,000
Speaker 2: Let's go to the way and we got our best

2714
02:06:47,000 --> 02:06:48,400
Speaker 2: pizza toss of the week.

2715
02:06:49,920 --> 02:06:55,320
Speaker 1: What the fuck is this? Yeah, Uncle Pizza is his name.

2716
02:06:56,440 --> 02:06:59,320
Speaker 2: That's Kellie Soerland, who used to be a regular boxing

2717
02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:01,640
Speaker 2: promoter in the middle from Germany. Luke he's not running

2718
02:07:01,720 --> 02:07:02,120
Speaker 2: this thing.

2719
02:07:03,640 --> 02:07:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a sad Van Diesel on the right.

2720
02:07:06,800 --> 02:07:08,720
Speaker 2: Well, it gets sadder than that, Luke. Let's go to

2721
02:07:08,800 --> 02:07:11,560
Speaker 2: Kimbo Slice Junior. He was in there against a.

2722
02:07:11,520 --> 02:07:14,280
Speaker 1: TikToker remember when he was in bellator.

2723
02:07:14,400 --> 02:07:17,640
Speaker 2: Yep, and he got handled. Here, Luke, that's Slice on

2724
02:07:17,680 --> 02:07:18,560
Speaker 2: the left in purple.

2725
02:07:19,720 --> 02:07:23,200
Speaker 1: Oh no, this is a TikToker whipping his ass.

2726
02:07:23,440 --> 02:07:24,880
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep.

2727
02:07:25,000 --> 02:07:25,760
Speaker 1: That's unfortunate.

2728
02:07:26,320 --> 02:07:28,440
Speaker 2: Well then there was this guy named Chase de More.

2729
02:07:28,600 --> 02:07:31,480
Speaker 1: I've often said, dude, the best base for boxing is

2730
02:07:31,640 --> 02:07:34,960
Speaker 1: always going to be uh Chinese spy apps. It's really

2731
02:07:35,560 --> 02:07:37,240
Speaker 1: the number one place to go to to get your

2732
02:07:37,280 --> 02:07:38,400
Speaker 1: boxing up to speak.

2733
02:07:38,360 --> 02:07:41,040
Speaker 2: Luke, Chase de Moore made many bad headlines at this

2734
02:07:41,080 --> 02:07:43,600
Speaker 2: misfit show. The first one was when he got disqualified

2735
02:07:43,600 --> 02:07:47,240
Speaker 2: for breaking every single boxing rule in one sequence. That's

2736
02:07:47,320 --> 02:07:48,160
Speaker 2: chasing the white.

2737
02:07:48,400 --> 02:07:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got good ground to pound BC.

2738
02:07:50,640 --> 02:07:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah that's not legal. That's certainly not legal. So that

2739
02:07:54,160 --> 02:07:57,880
Speaker 2: was a big DQ loss. And then Chase got Nate

2740
02:07:57,960 --> 02:08:01,160
Speaker 2: Diaz all upset. Diaz was there to for to help

2741
02:08:01,160 --> 02:08:06,520
Speaker 2: out Chris Avila, and it got zero to sixty quick here.

2742
02:08:06,440 --> 02:08:13,200
Speaker 1: Luke, Jesus what is Nate doing just throwing bottles at shit?

2743
02:08:14,440 --> 02:08:16,240
Speaker 1: So that's the same guy who got dqu'ed.

2744
02:08:16,520 --> 02:08:20,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the same guy, Chase de Moore. And then

2745
02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:22,560
Speaker 2: you know, Nate was so upset that Nate went out

2746
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:24,480
Speaker 2: in the streets Luke and he was like the first

2747
02:08:24,760 --> 02:08:27,800
Speaker 2: person I find that looks like Logan Paul's getting choked out.

2748
02:08:27,840 --> 02:08:30,120
Speaker 2: And it turns out this guy was in the wrong

2749
02:08:30,160 --> 02:08:31,280
Speaker 2: place at the wrong time.

2750
02:08:32,080 --> 02:08:34,240
Speaker 1: Now I have heard. I mean, look at this choke.

2751
02:08:34,320 --> 02:08:38,400
Speaker 1: This is Dan Miller, Dave Phillips or you know John

2752
02:08:38,480 --> 02:08:43,040
Speaker 1: Jah Jesus, John Jayachitah. Let me just say this. You know,

2753
02:08:44,040 --> 02:08:46,840
Speaker 1: Louisiana stange of ground law. So I'm not sure what

2754
02:08:46,960 --> 02:08:49,480
Speaker 1: kind of legal complications will happen from this. Perhaps nothing,

2755
02:08:49,480 --> 02:08:53,440
Speaker 1: in fact, I'm sure likely nothing and whatnot. But I

2756
02:08:53,520 --> 02:08:56,160
Speaker 1: just got on a serious note. It's funny to be

2757
02:08:56,160 --> 02:08:59,240
Speaker 1: putting Logan Paul. I mean, if your whole gimmick is

2758
02:08:59,240 --> 02:09:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm a Logan Paul personator, you know, I mean, you

2759
02:09:02,360 --> 02:09:04,560
Speaker 1: got that gimmick for like another six months and then

2760
02:09:04,560 --> 02:09:05,960
Speaker 1: you gotta do something else, you know what I mean.

2761
02:09:05,960 --> 02:09:08,880
Speaker 1: It's like, however long hast Bulla's shelf life is as

2762
02:09:08,880 --> 02:09:11,400
Speaker 1: a social media phenomenon. This dude is a fraction of that.

2763
02:09:11,800 --> 02:09:14,760
Speaker 1: But I will say this, dude, like getting in these

2764
02:09:14,760 --> 02:09:17,960
Speaker 1: street altercations, even if they're not your fault. Man, someone's

2765
02:09:18,000 --> 02:09:20,560
Speaker 1: gonna have a knife, someone's gonna have a gun. This

2766
02:09:20,640 --> 02:09:24,200
Speaker 1: is a well armed and very you know, not always

2767
02:09:24,200 --> 02:09:27,600
Speaker 1: bright population. It's this ship is risky to me, man.

2768
02:09:28,080 --> 02:09:29,640
Speaker 1: I don't I don't like it, dude, I don't like it.

2769
02:09:29,720 --> 02:09:32,440
Speaker 2: I don't need MMA fighters fighting in the airport, Luke,

2770
02:09:32,560 --> 02:09:35,360
Speaker 2: like on the escalade and stuff. But you know, sometimes

2771
02:09:35,360 --> 02:09:38,360
Speaker 2: you get MMA fighters out in the wild. That's what happened, Luke.

2772
02:09:38,360 --> 02:09:41,280
Speaker 2: Here's Angela Hill and Jessica Penney.

2773
02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:43,600
Speaker 1: They got in a fight.

2774
02:09:56,560 --> 02:10:02,280
Speaker 2: This is just fun amongst friends, Luke. Well, hey, Paul

2775
02:10:02,320 --> 02:10:04,560
Speaker 2: Craig took that fake fight into another level when he

2776
02:10:04,680 --> 02:10:08,080
Speaker 2: entered the Royal Rumpel match at the local pro wrestling promotion.

2777
02:10:08,320 --> 02:10:10,320
Speaker 2: I see, w did you see this, Luke?

2778
02:10:10,400 --> 02:10:14,360
Speaker 1: I did not see this. This is all new to me. Boy.

2779
02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:16,600
Speaker 1: Look at the tans on these Irish fellows.

2780
02:10:16,960 --> 02:10:21,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say bear jewics. Uh. His form was you know,

2781
02:10:21,360 --> 02:10:23,320
Speaker 2: up to par but you know, this was a big

2782
02:10:23,360 --> 02:10:23,960
Speaker 2: moment there.

2783
02:10:25,160 --> 02:10:30,600
Speaker 1: He's got the gloves on. He's got the kilt a

2784
02:10:31,200 --> 02:10:32,760
Speaker 1: little while to get the kill killed off.

2785
02:10:32,800 --> 02:10:42,400
Speaker 2: There we go, Andre and Hogan's style. Look at that.

2786
02:10:42,400 --> 02:10:43,480
Speaker 2: That's great. Tear it all.

2787
02:10:43,520 --> 02:10:49,400
Speaker 1: Oh he rips the shirt. Boy, that's that? That thing

2788
02:10:49,480 --> 02:10:51,600
Speaker 1: is the size of a walk in closet. That ring

2789
02:10:51,800 --> 02:10:52,560
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.

2790
02:10:52,800 --> 02:10:55,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you look pretty cool doing it. Not everybody,

2791
02:10:55,960 --> 02:10:57,880
Speaker 2: Luke looks cool when they try to act like a fighter.

2792
02:10:58,040 --> 02:10:59,720
Speaker 2: What do you think about m m a on point?

2793
02:10:59,760 --> 02:11:03,480
Speaker 2: Are butdy Baileyan's uh form on this kick punch machine,

2794
02:11:03,480 --> 02:11:06,160
Speaker 2: punch machine that he's kicking you ready.

2795
02:11:06,080 --> 02:11:10,120
Speaker 1: All right, let's see it's not bad.

2796
02:11:10,520 --> 02:11:13,240
Speaker 2: I think Baileon could could you think that? You don't

2797
02:11:13,240 --> 02:11:14,880
Speaker 2: put him in there with Oscar Willis. It's a bad

2798
02:11:14,920 --> 02:11:16,040
Speaker 2: matchup for Oscar.

2799
02:11:15,800 --> 02:11:18,840
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I think baileyans Also, I think Baileyan's a

2800
02:11:18,840 --> 02:11:21,960
Speaker 1: lot bigger like Oscar Willis. I love him, but I've

2801
02:11:21,960 --> 02:11:23,200
Speaker 1: got sperm bigger than him.

2802
02:11:23,520 --> 02:11:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. You Casey Lyden would take

2803
02:11:26,160 --> 02:11:27,000
Speaker 2: Baileyon down.

2804
02:11:26,880 --> 02:11:29,920
Speaker 1: Right away though, I know yeah, probably probably probably.

2805
02:11:30,480 --> 02:11:33,640
Speaker 2: Also Luke, uh your boy out of Sonia went tip

2806
02:11:33,640 --> 02:11:35,640
Speaker 2: to tip with Burt Chrysler. Did you see this? This

2807
02:11:35,760 --> 02:11:36,240
Speaker 2: was awkward.

2808
02:11:38,800 --> 02:11:42,000
Speaker 1: His name is Burt Chrysler, Bert Bert Kreyscher.

2809
02:11:42,040 --> 02:11:44,040
Speaker 2: He's more like a comedian in the rogan circle.

2810
02:11:44,200 --> 02:11:46,040
Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you a question. I'm not

2811
02:11:46,160 --> 02:11:49,640
Speaker 1: a I don't know enough about this man's comedy to care,

2812
02:11:49,760 --> 02:11:53,880
Speaker 1: but I've never Why is this motherfucker shirtless all the time?

2813
02:11:53,920 --> 02:11:56,560
Speaker 2: Help me outah? He laughs, real loud. I don't think

2814
02:11:56,640 --> 02:11:58,320
Speaker 2: you know, it's not not my cup of tea, Luke.

2815
02:11:58,360 --> 02:11:59,760
Speaker 2: I like other comedians, you.

2816
02:11:59,720 --> 02:12:03,520
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, yeah, I don't quite get the bills. Every

2817
02:12:03,520 --> 02:12:05,240
Speaker 1: time I see him he's got a shirt off. It's like,

2818
02:12:05,880 --> 02:12:09,040
Speaker 1: that's funny. Like one or two times, my guy, We're

2819
02:12:09,440 --> 02:12:10,920
Speaker 1: we're going a little far with that now.

2820
02:12:11,440 --> 02:12:14,120
Speaker 2: I like theo Vaughn and Chappelle and Malick and those

2821
02:12:14,120 --> 02:12:16,640
Speaker 2: type of guys. Luke, his gimmick is being drunk Long Island,

2822
02:12:16,720 --> 02:12:17,320
Speaker 2: Luke says.

2823
02:12:17,200 --> 02:12:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, if his gimmick is again, I'm not seeing his

2824
02:12:19,160 --> 02:12:21,000
Speaker 1: comedy very much. I've seen bits and pieces, so I

2825
02:12:21,040 --> 02:12:22,879
Speaker 1: can't say a whole lot. I saw his one Russian

2826
02:12:22,920 --> 02:12:27,520
Speaker 1: story once that just never ended. Uh. If our producer

2827
02:12:27,560 --> 02:12:29,840
Speaker 1: wrote his gimmick is being drunk and not wearing a shirt,

2828
02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:30,839
Speaker 1: that's not a gimmick.

2829
02:12:31,480 --> 02:12:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not.

2830
02:12:32,280 --> 02:12:34,760
Speaker 1: That's just that's just just this white trash like, that's

2831
02:12:34,800 --> 02:12:37,560
Speaker 1: not a let's take that's just my uncle at the

2832
02:12:37,680 --> 02:12:38,760
Speaker 1: fucking cookout.

2833
02:12:38,800 --> 02:12:42,120
Speaker 2: That's not Let's take this home with a couple more. Luke,

2834
02:12:42,160 --> 02:12:46,040
Speaker 2: here's your best celebration of the week from regional MMA.

2835
02:12:49,360 --> 02:12:51,480
Speaker 1: Oh man, oh, they both need each other, but the

2836
02:12:51,560 --> 02:12:54,920
Speaker 1: other one hit decent stop it.

2837
02:12:55,080 --> 02:12:58,120
Speaker 2: Oh oh wow? Did you see that, Luke? Did you

2838
02:12:58,120 --> 02:13:01,920
Speaker 2: see that finish there? That was that was something right there?

2839
02:13:01,960 --> 02:13:03,600
Speaker 1: Wow, well he was just he was just shaking the

2840
02:13:03,600 --> 02:13:06,240
Speaker 1: old dingling in the guys. But tell me, Emma is

2841
02:13:06,280 --> 02:13:08,160
Speaker 1: not homo erotic iberi. It's great.

2842
02:13:09,160 --> 02:13:11,000
Speaker 2: That wasn't the best fight we saw this week. You

2843
02:13:11,000 --> 02:13:14,080
Speaker 2: got to go to a Morgan Whalen country concert to

2844
02:13:14,120 --> 02:13:16,560
Speaker 2: find that Luke among chicks. By the way, in the crowd,

2845
02:13:16,560 --> 02:13:17,560
Speaker 2: did you see this ship?

2846
02:13:18,440 --> 02:13:22,560
Speaker 1: Oh wow? Oh uh oh uh oh yeah we got

2847
02:13:22,600 --> 02:13:24,480
Speaker 1: we got we got the white ladies drinking. You know

2848
02:13:24,520 --> 02:13:25,040
Speaker 1: what that means.

2849
02:13:25,160 --> 02:13:29,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, get out them Seltzer's Luke here we go. Okay,

2850
02:13:30,320 --> 02:13:32,200
Speaker 2: then wine coolers, it's on.

2851
02:13:32,960 --> 02:13:35,840
Speaker 1: Does she ever make it out her friend? Oh? She

2852
02:13:35,920 --> 02:13:39,080
Speaker 1: goes around, oh and then kind of slaps her. Oh

2853
02:13:39,080 --> 02:13:40,040
Speaker 1: and then Oh, here we go.

2854
02:13:40,800 --> 02:13:42,400
Speaker 2: But look at this guy on the with the hat

2855
02:13:42,440 --> 02:13:43,520
Speaker 2: trying to turn it into a witch.

2856
02:13:43,720 --> 02:13:46,840
Speaker 1: There, they're twinning. They got the same clothes on. That's

2857
02:13:46,840 --> 02:13:49,320
Speaker 1: what they're battling for, the right fighting style.

2858
02:13:49,600 --> 02:13:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are.

2859
02:13:52,520 --> 02:13:54,600
Speaker 1: They gonna do? Way? You think if you pour fucking

2860
02:13:55,520 --> 02:14:00,160
Speaker 1: seltzer that they separate automatically? What are they doing there?

2861
02:14:00,240 --> 02:14:02,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? That guy? Somebody needs to knock that guy out.

2862
02:14:02,280 --> 02:14:06,880
Speaker 1: Look, guys, I just want to make a point. It's

2863
02:14:07,000 --> 02:14:10,000
Speaker 1: not hard to to not get in fights in public.

2864
02:14:10,120 --> 02:14:15,040
Speaker 1: It's actually very easy. Johnny Cash, that's actually a pretty

2865
02:14:15,040 --> 02:14:15,440
Speaker 1: cool shirt.

2866
02:14:15,920 --> 02:14:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy looks like a big pos though. Look,

2867
02:14:18,200 --> 02:14:19,160
Speaker 2: but we'll keep it going here.

2868
02:14:19,400 --> 02:14:21,320
Speaker 1: Probably is late on his child support. You know.

2869
02:14:21,720 --> 02:14:23,640
Speaker 2: You know what I always say when people talk about

2870
02:14:23,640 --> 02:14:26,600
Speaker 2: it about my toes, Luke, your feet tell the story of

2871
02:14:26,680 --> 02:14:27,120
Speaker 2: your life.

2872
02:14:27,200 --> 02:14:28,880
Speaker 1: Let's hear the story you just don't shower.

2873
02:14:29,360 --> 02:14:32,000
Speaker 2: Let's hear the story of this guy's life. Luke.

2874
02:14:33,480 --> 02:14:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I won't tell you.

2875
02:14:36,120 --> 02:14:40,280
Speaker 4: That's got to be the toughest foot i've my life.

2876
02:14:39,760 --> 02:14:41,760
Speaker 2: Ye think that call?

2877
02:14:42,280 --> 02:14:53,480
Speaker 4: That's a thick callus. And don't nothing hurt him feet? Yeah,

2878
02:14:53,640 --> 02:14:54,440
Speaker 4: that don't hurt.

2879
02:14:54,960 --> 02:15:01,480
Speaker 2: Don't hurt, don't hurt, no pain, but crust from tide.

2880
02:15:01,880 --> 02:15:04,560
Speaker 4: Don't give a pistol by line, but the tide roll

2881
02:15:04,760 --> 02:15:07,480
Speaker 4: tide bro hit that dork one more time. Just let

2882
02:15:07,480 --> 02:15:17,840
Speaker 4: me see if it's lip wacke put off, didn't even burning?

2883
02:15:19,040 --> 02:15:22,240
Speaker 1: Oh you good, I'm good to go.

2884
02:15:22,480 --> 02:15:23,720
Speaker 2: What ro wrong?

2885
02:15:27,320 --> 02:15:29,400
Speaker 1: This man is impressively dirty.

2886
02:15:30,800 --> 02:15:35,280
Speaker 2: No no pame for the crimson tide dude.

2887
02:15:35,440 --> 02:15:37,400
Speaker 1: I like how in the middle of putting his cigarette

2888
02:15:37,440 --> 02:15:40,160
Speaker 1: out on his dead ass skin, he goes roll tiede

2889
02:15:40,280 --> 02:15:44,520
Speaker 1: roll Yeah indeed, but this this listen, you got feet

2890
02:15:44,640 --> 02:15:47,480
Speaker 1: like this. This ain't war eagle feet. This is roll

2891
02:15:47,680 --> 02:15:49,640
Speaker 1: tide feet war egle.

2892
02:15:50,720 --> 02:15:53,760
Speaker 2: I got this bunion for saving over here. He had

2893
02:15:53,880 --> 02:15:58,120
Speaker 2: to represent his first national championship. Hey we got one

2894
02:15:58,160 --> 02:15:59,680
Speaker 2: more for you. Look you go. He's got to be

2895
02:15:59,760 --> 02:16:02,000
Speaker 2: carefu in this world because you never know if cameras

2896
02:16:02,000 --> 02:16:02,520
Speaker 2: are watching.

2897
02:16:09,200 --> 02:16:17,800
Speaker 1: Uh oh uh, oh uh what the fuck? What did

2898
02:16:17,800 --> 02:16:22,440
Speaker 1: I just watch? Did he get drunk? I think that's

2899
02:16:22,560 --> 02:16:29,640
Speaker 1: wipe enuff balls smells it it's like smelling salts. And

2900
02:16:29,680 --> 02:16:31,000
Speaker 1: then he gets going.

2901
02:16:31,040 --> 02:16:33,280
Speaker 2: Because he realized he was on camera, Luke, so he

2902
02:16:33,280 --> 02:16:35,680
Speaker 2: tried to play it off, you know, like nothing was happening.

2903
02:16:35,800 --> 02:16:37,600
Speaker 1: Okay, that was the no you know what it was.

2904
02:16:37,680 --> 02:16:40,720
Speaker 1: He smelled his own testicle funk and it was like

2905
02:16:40,760 --> 02:16:42,720
Speaker 1: smelling salts when you're about to do deadlifts and it

2906
02:16:42,720 --> 02:16:45,400
Speaker 1: wakes you up. You know what I'm saying, Like ammonia.

2907
02:16:45,080 --> 02:16:47,760
Speaker 2: Do fake the fuck got a nasty dunk, Luke. Okay,

2908
02:16:47,760 --> 02:16:50,280
Speaker 2: there you go. That's the ship for a while. We'll

2909
02:16:50,320 --> 02:16:51,760
Speaker 2: have more next week. There you go.

2910
02:16:51,840 --> 02:16:56,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, b C, great show today, my friend, really good job.

2911
02:16:56,520 --> 02:16:57,720
Speaker 1: I'm so glad to be back.

2912
02:16:58,120 --> 02:17:01,680
Speaker 2: Oh some one championship thing.

2913
02:17:02,640 --> 02:17:05,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So there was a huge upset between Haggerdy

2914
02:17:05,879 --> 02:17:09,240
Speaker 1: and Nongo in one championship. He basically the way I

2915
02:17:09,320 --> 02:17:11,879
Speaker 1: understand it was this dude Haggarty. You know, because we

2916
02:17:11,920 --> 02:17:13,400
Speaker 1: want to be clear about our limits here. We're not

2917
02:17:13,480 --> 02:17:17,039
Speaker 1: big kickboxing officionados. We can't say we know a whole lot.

2918
02:17:17,080 --> 02:17:18,480
Speaker 1: But I asked some folks about it. What they were

2919
02:17:18,480 --> 02:17:21,560
Speaker 1: saying is, not only was this dude like moving up

2920
02:17:21,560 --> 02:17:23,160
Speaker 1: a weight class and then he ice is one of

2921
02:17:23,160 --> 02:17:26,800
Speaker 1: these guys you know in Lumpini Stadium in the first round.

2922
02:17:27,240 --> 02:17:28,680
Speaker 1: But Haggard he had always been seen as a guy

2923
02:17:28,680 --> 02:17:31,440
Speaker 1: who was like good but never broken through. And then

2924
02:17:31,480 --> 02:17:33,440
Speaker 1: he moves up in Wait and then beats this dude

2925
02:17:33,640 --> 02:17:36,600
Speaker 1: in fucking Thailand in the Lumpini Stitiu, which is like

2926
02:17:36,600 --> 02:17:38,560
Speaker 1: one of the that in Roger Domern Stadium of their

2927
02:17:38,560 --> 02:17:41,840
Speaker 1: two most maybe i'll argue important stadiums for Muay Thai

2928
02:17:42,480 --> 02:17:45,880
Speaker 1: and uh and he just fucking he knocked him up

2929
02:17:45,959 --> 02:17:48,440
Speaker 1: basically a pretty clear face planted him. Dude. It was amazing.

2930
02:17:49,400 --> 02:17:52,160
Speaker 1: I think about it right here. Davis Garcia body shot,

2931
02:17:52,200 --> 02:17:56,760
Speaker 1: Finish Stotts mix. That knee was incredible. Then you have

2932
02:17:56,920 --> 02:18:00,080
Speaker 1: Sergey Pavlovitch putting Blades's lights out, and then you had this,

2933
02:18:00,360 --> 02:18:02,520
Speaker 1: Like so all your main events that we kind of

2934
02:18:02,520 --> 02:18:05,480
Speaker 1: care about on this show, they all ended in dynamic

2935
02:18:05,600 --> 02:18:08,200
Speaker 1: or reasonably dynamic finishes. You can greet him how you want,

2936
02:18:08,240 --> 02:18:09,760
Speaker 1: but it's pretty pretty remarkable weekend.

2937
02:18:10,280 --> 02:18:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah that There was also a really good Joe Cordina

2938
02:18:12,600 --> 02:18:15,200
Speaker 2: fight at one hundred and thirty pounds in Wales on

2939
02:18:15,320 --> 02:18:18,240
Speaker 2: his own, Luke, that went the distance and was really close.

2940
02:18:18,280 --> 02:18:18,520
Speaker 1: Again.

2941
02:18:18,520 --> 02:18:20,320
Speaker 2: I think the guy's name was Rock Him Off or something.

2942
02:18:20,360 --> 02:18:22,440
Speaker 2: That was the incredible fight if you missed that as well.

2943
02:18:22,520 --> 02:18:25,240
Speaker 2: So fun weekend, but we're back, Luke. Hey, what we

2944
02:18:25,240 --> 02:18:28,480
Speaker 2: should probably get the Rashad and the Phil Deru RSD

2945
02:18:28,600 --> 02:18:28,760
Speaker 2: on this.

2946
02:18:28,840 --> 02:18:30,959
Speaker 1: Yeah still texted me like he was wondering when that's

2947
02:18:31,000 --> 02:18:33,440
Speaker 1: gonna go out. I actually don't know. I've been away,

2948
02:18:33,520 --> 02:18:35,199
Speaker 1: so I gotta go see when that's gonna be out. Also,

2949
02:18:35,400 --> 02:18:37,080
Speaker 1: we didn't publish it, but I still have the interview

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02:18:37,080 --> 02:18:39,760
Speaker 1: with mo Jassum, the guy who runs ADCC, and I

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Speaker 1: asked him straight up, like why don't you guys drug test?

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Speaker 1: He had a very interesting answer. It's straightforward. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: like the interview. I think I see that interview. Luke,

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Speaker 1: you've bet Hee's it for six months. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I turned I turned it in before I left. I

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Speaker 1: turned it in before I left. I'm only we gonna

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Speaker 1: run it while I was gone, so they didn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I found Mike Mikey is alive. Mikey made it

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Speaker 2: back from Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: I he did, He's alive to text you? Yes, yes, yes?

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Speaker 1: All right? Is he sober? That's a different question, and

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Speaker 1: then that's a very different question on a Monday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm if I'm the person to

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Speaker 2: answer that.

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Speaker 1: I can you all right, let's remind everyone you can

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Speaker 1: go to Morningcombat dot store. That's where all the merch is.

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Speaker 1: We're back full strength for a while now, so we're

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Speaker 1: going to be hitting you with all this kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: But you know, if you want to go buy some merch,

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Speaker 1: why wouldn't you can go there Showtime We didn't even

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Speaker 1: mention this at the top showtime dot com. You can

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Speaker 1: get a thirty day free trial. If you like it,

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Speaker 1: you can keep it. If not, you can bounce the email.

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Speaker 1: It's email the show Morning Combat at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: Very simple, just email us. The producers are going to

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Speaker 1: see it. Me and Brian won't, but they will see it,

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02:19:35,520 --> 02:19:38,160
Speaker 1: so you can go and contact the show that way,

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02:19:38,200 --> 02:19:39,520
Speaker 1: and then of course give us a follow on all

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Speaker 1: the various social media. Hey BC, how about this? So

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Speaker 1: I posted a clip from my is he breakdown over

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Speaker 1: when I was away. It did a million views for

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Speaker 1: me on my YouTube channel for YouTube shorts, and it

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Speaker 1: got me one clip. Ready for this, got me forty

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Speaker 1: five thousand new followers on TikTok. I've crossed one hundred

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Speaker 1: k follower on TikTok like overnight. It's amazing. So follow

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Speaker 1: me there, follow me there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, imagine what that could have done. On the

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Speaker 2: MK channel.

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Speaker 1: Luke, incredible. Hey, I you know that's up to our

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Speaker 1: bosses to figure that out. That's not up to me,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So there you go. H

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Speaker 1: But good show. BC gets some rest. I know you

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Speaker 1: need it.

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Speaker 2: Take it easy for the I feel like a giant turd, Luke,

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Speaker 2: but I get Hey. I am interviewing Demetrius Johnson and

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Speaker 2: Mike Perry today, so check out for those on YouTube

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Speaker 2: dot com slash Morning Combat unless I, you know, die

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Speaker 2: before they get out. And there's my new hat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's your new hat that I got you straight

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Speaker 1: from the streets of Cartagena, Columbia, just for you, my friend.

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Speaker 2: All right, if I if I yelled area, what does

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Speaker 2: that mean?

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Speaker 1: It means like it's like yelling like the name of

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Speaker 1: a food. It's like it's like yelling bread or something.

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Speaker 2: Do they sell those in gas stations a lot? I

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Speaker 2: really want a unify.

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Speaker 1: Yes they do. They sell that in empanadas everywhere, and

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Speaker 1: Columbia epanadas are different as they're fried and I think

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Speaker 1: it's corn starts on the outside. Anyway, all right, BC,

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Speaker 1: We're done here. So thanks to everyone who was patient

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Speaker 1: during our absence. BC a great job this past weekend

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Speaker 1: while all the coverage you had to do, and of

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Speaker 1: course we appreciate everyone who tuned in for today's show.

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Speaker 1: We're back on Wednesday. By the way, We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a big a guest on Wednesday and a big Wednesday show,

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Speaker 1: so that should be a lot of fun as well.

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Speaker 1: So for Brian Campbell for CBS Sports, the Intrepid Mikey Mormile,

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Speaker 1: all of the Showtime crew, and all of the Malka

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Speaker 1: crew as well. Thank you guys so much. We're out

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Speaker 1: here for today and until next time, May all of

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Speaker 1: your gains be loyal