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Speaker 1: my name is Jason Concepcion and welcome next to our

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Speaker 1: Vision of the Cook podcast, where we dive deep into your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows, favorite movies, comics, pop culture and more. On

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Speaker 1: today's episode. Previously on Rosie and I will discuss a

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Speaker 1: the process of doing so, for a staggering near seventy

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Speaker 1: various employees of Activision Blizzard have levied against company. What

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Speaker 2: I mean, that is so much money.

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Speaker 1: It's so much money, and there's been a significant criticism

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Speaker 2: love Suicide Squad, and that to me is like the

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Speaker 2: peak of what Peacemaker can be, because I don't think

433
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: he necessarily needs like a redemption arc. But I do

434
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 2: think the show's really interesting and James Gunn is very

435
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 2: good at doing weird, alien cosmic stuff, so I'm very

436
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 2: excited to see where that goes. I wrote a piece

437
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 2: for Polygon kind of guessing where it might go based

438
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: on the third first three episodes, and while the butterflies

439
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: are not technically anything like directly from the comic, there

440
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: are some their mind control, so it's like, oh, is

441
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 2: it doctor Psycho? Is it missed the mind you know,

442
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: because he's a worm as well as a caterpillar, so

443
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 2: that would makes sense. But I actually think from the

444
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 2: end of episode three that I think the big review

445
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 2: will be like Insect Queen, who is like this weird

446
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 2: old character who was originally Lana Lang for like two versions,

447
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: but there's a third version where she's an alien who

448
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 2: can possess people who wants to create a humor hive

449
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,959
Speaker 2: on Earth, who are full of worker drones. So it

450
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: makes sense to me that she would like kill some

451
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: people off using mind control to basically like wipe. So

452
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 2: that aspect of it I do I do find really interesting.

453
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 2: But the Peacemaker I know from Suicide Squad and what

454
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: I felt like Gun did such a good job representing it,

455
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily immediately correlate to this show, which is a

456
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: lot more fun and a lot more focused on him.

457
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: My only question with this show, and I'm enjoying it

458
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: thus far, but I find myself wondering how it will

459
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: connect to the wider DC universe, both in movies and television.

460
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Speaker 1: I think like if there's been you know, if DC

461
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: television has been great, yeah, like animated and live action,

462
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 1: like that stuff is good. If there's a weakness, if

463
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: you can call it, that is that all that stuff

464
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 1: is really fractured, and other than a few kind of

465
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Speaker 1: like small crossovers that really don't affect the cannon like

466
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: at all, they haven't done anything that is that hooks

467
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: these properties or Peacemaker or anything else like directly into

468
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: other movies that are going Obviously this has been off, yeah,

469
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Speaker 1: Suicide Squad.

470
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Speaker 2: Even then, it's taking advantage of the fractured nature by

471
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: kind of getting to reimagine. I mean, I think something

472
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: that's really funny that you're kind of that you touch

473
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: on here is like, so Marvel's doing this multiverse right,

474
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Speaker 2: But really the only reason that the cultural zeitgeist works

475
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 2: and people know enough what the multiverse is is because

476
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Speaker 2: of DC and the DCTV shows.

477
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: Yes, they really stole DC's thunder in this regard.

478
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like you said, like there's all these different

479
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: So something I find really interesting about Peacemaker is like

480
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 2: it feels very contained and I would love to see

481
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 2: it connect to these other things. But yeah, when we

482
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Speaker 2: think about the other shows that are coming out soon

483
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 2: that are DC shows on Hbomax specifically, so the GCPD

484
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: Show and I think the Penguin show they were talking about,

485
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: both of those are obviously not going to be connecting

486
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Speaker 2: to Peacemaker, you know. So I think one of the

487
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: strengths that I think DC has for its films is

488
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 2: letting directors do whatever they want and giving them this absolute,

489
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: complete creative vision. So you can have the Joker and

490
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: Aquaman come out from the same studio right now, I

491
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 2: do think that I don't necessarily know if that has

492
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: the same power and it's TV because TV can be

493
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 2: this space to connect everything together. So I would really

494
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: love to see what you're kind of saying. I would

495
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: love for this to surprise us and for it to

496
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: be more directly a connection to the other things in

497
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 2: the DC world that we know.

498
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, what will there be a mention? Obviously there's

499
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: a lot of roasting batmantly, so yes, absolutely accurate roasting

500
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: of Batman. It goes up throughout this throughout the series,

501
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: but we're going to get any mentions of like you know,

502
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 1: the events of Justice League or anything like that, Like

503
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: that will let us know that people in this world

504
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: are aware of the other things that are going on

505
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: beyond just like you know, like Batman's Sush is like

506
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: a loser and likes or like a what a dummy

507
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: he is? Like stuff like that, Like are we going

508
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: to actually talk about other stuff? Like you know, like hey,

509
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: remember when remember when like everybody hostage and wasn't that crazy?

510
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: Like is anything like that can happen because that will

511
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: obviously it's a really simple thing to do, and there's

512
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: like complications with regards to how stuff fits in the timeline,

513
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 1: and nerds love that stuff and they as soon as

514
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: they're the mention of that, people will be trying to

515
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: figure out like where this all fits in the thing.

516
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: But I think that's all important. All this stuff matter,

517
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: you know, like because fans want to feel like, oh,

518
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: this stuff matters to larger stories. So that's what I'm

519
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: really interested in. I'm enjoying it. I'm I'm I'm looking

520
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: forward to talking about it more in depth. Up next,

521
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Speaker 1: Hide Mind. Welcome to the Hive Mind, where we discuss

522
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: a topic in depth with an expert guest today we've gathered,

523
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: like Sanos, two of the top one hundred Jason's in media.

524
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: Jason Manzucas, our great friend, joins us to continue ongoing

525
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: conversation on books of boveet Jason, how are you?

526
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: I am thrilled Jason to be here. It is there.

527
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: There is almost almost never in my life am I

528
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: addressing another Jason, and so no, it's so rare. Our

529
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 3: friendship makes me so happy in this regard because it is.

530
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 3: It's also so confusing when we're around others.

531
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: I love that, love that that's a great part of it.

532
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: Just before this, our engineer Vasili's said, hey, Jason, I

533
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: need you to check yourself and we and it was

534
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: unclear which one like, And that is I love that

535
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: so much, being around another Jason and just being like, well,

536
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: which one get you get your fast?

537
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 3: Did you grow up? Because here's the thing, I don't

538
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: know there are no more Jason's. Like I don't think.

539
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: I don't I think Jason is an extinct name. Like

540
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: I don't think people our my age, your age are

541
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: naming their kids Jason. I don't think it exists as

542
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 3: a popular name anymore.

543
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think I'm just gonna just

544
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: come with a theory. I think two things affected this.

545
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: One was the Jason in the Argonauts movies, right. Oh,

546
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: the famous is stop motion movies that I think were

547
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: popular and people love those. And then I think what

548
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: poisoned it was Friday the thirteenth Jason.

549
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 3: I think it came in and think about that. That's

550
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: like naming your kid Freddy Krueger.

551
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that put I think.

552
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: That put it on our wow wow. So like the

553
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 3: real death from the Friday the Thirteenth movies is the

554
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 3: name of Jason.

555
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: That's right.

556
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: Everyone had a teenager having sex and the name Jason

557
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: were made extinct by the Friday the Thirteenth movies.

558
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: That's okay, That's that's great. I'm glad we've settled at

559
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: least that so far on our book of Bubba Feed Dissection.

560
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: I got to see you semi and well in person

561
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: recently at a live showing of How Did This Get Made?

562
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: Live taping of of the podcast. First of all, thank

563
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: you for inviting me. It was really great. You know,

564
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: like I've seen you on stage so many times as

565
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: we've talked about. So I'm a fan of Improblem fan

566
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: of comedy and fan of comedic stuff, a New York natives,

567
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: was spent a lot of time there. I saw you

568
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: many times at USB and and excuse me, you might be.

569
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 3: I mean right there, right there, that's it USB.

570
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: I saw you many times at UCV and various other venues,

571
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: and it was just great to see you on stage again,

572
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: really fun. What was it? What was it like?

573
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: Did you feel it felt? It was? It was? It

574
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: was great. It was so exciting, you know, Like listen,

575
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: I've been performing live two to five times a week

576
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: for the last twenty two years. I moved to New

577
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: York in ninety eight to start doing comedy and immediately

578
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: started doing shows, and so too in the last couple

579
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 3: of years to in the last you know whatever, twenty

580
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: two months like shut that down completely. And while we've

581
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: been very lucky to be able to do like live

582
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 3: stream shows or I still get to do like this

583
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 3: and connect with you over zoom and still have a fun,

584
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 3: funny conversation about things we care about. And we could

585
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: still do the podcast remotely, which has been fantastic, but

586
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 3: the loss of performing live in front of an audience,

587
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: touring with how did this get made? That was that

588
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: has been like psychologically a tremendous loss for me in

589
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 3: the last you know, two years, during the pandemic of

590
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: being at home alone, not engaging and not performing live,

591
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: not doing anything like that. So so that show at Largo,

592
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: which was like a really we got we squeaked it

593
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: in there right before the omicron variant kind of took over.

594
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,239
Speaker 3: That show was this incredible, catharsis this incredible, Like, oh

595
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: my god, thank god. It felt incredible both to be

596
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: on stage doing the show. It felt like really like

597
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: like it felt like SIPs of water from after wandering

598
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: through the dune sea with no black melons to find

599
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: in the sand. That's what it felt like, a few

600
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: SIPs from a black melon in the dune sea. But

601
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, I was also very scary.

602
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: I was still so rattled and so nervous to be

603
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 3: just around that many people.

604
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Speaker 1: You know, It's interesting because the last improv show I

605
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: saw before Total Lockdown was You and Gravid Water. Oh yeah,

606
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,479
Speaker 1: at UCB Franklin, which was a super fun show, and

607
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: that was is all this stuff was happening, So just

608
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,719
Speaker 1: a really weird bookend. It was great to see you again, Uh,

609
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: you know what a weird time.

610
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: We live in. It is weird time.

611
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 1: It's but you know, to your point, there is really

612
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: just something about getting to the energy of a live room.

613
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 3: The audience too. The audience felt electric.

614
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's and I you know, having seen I think

615
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: this is like maybe the third All Largo shows. This

616
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: is like the third live thing I've seen since this

617
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: kind of like this stage of the thing, and audiences

618
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: are just so appreciative, Like the energy in the room

619
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: is always you know, everybody is feeling like, Okay, this

620
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: is risky and there's there's a certain level of things

621
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: that we just have to accept now. But also like

622
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: it's wonderful to be around people who like this thing

623
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: that we're all experiencing. And so that was really great.

624
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: I'm just so appreciative.

625
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 3: Phipate in that. Yeah, to participate in that kind of

626
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 3: that that that experience that that you know usually is easy.

627
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 3: You know, like like I've you know, I've been missing

628
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 3: I go to a lot of concerts. I've been missing

629
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 3: going to see live shows. And I can't wait to

630
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 3: go to a show, you know, and and and sit

631
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 3: in the audience and enjoy that that that moment you know,

632
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 3: like what I love about doing a show like that

633
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 3: is or when I like, you know, going into shows

634
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: or doing that show at Largo, it really feels like

635
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 3: a special event, you know, like I get to I

636
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 3: get to you know, see Paul and June and talk

637
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: about a funny movie. But the audience being there, Like

638
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 3: we can do that on Zoom, but like the audience

639
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 3: being there, it's like there's a fourth person there and

640
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 3: the person is the audience and we're bouncing off of

641
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: them and interacting with them and that's the best.

642
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I really missed it, and it was great

643
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: to see you. Let's talk about the Book of Boba fet.

644
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

645
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 1: Going into the Whiplash recap, we open on Boba's back

646
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: to Tank memories and a flashback to the events of

647
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: The Mandalorian Season one, chapter five, when, for those of

648
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: you don't recall, a handcuffed Fenix Shand was shot in

649
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: cold blood by the bounty hunter Toro Kalakano, and that

650
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: episode ended with a mysterious figure walking towards Shan's wounded form,

651
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: and we assumed from the events late in season two

652
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: of The Mandalorian that person was Bobaveet, who.

653
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 3: Also, I remember a lot of speculation at the time

654
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 3: that it was Boba fet because there were spurs like

655
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 3: yah they had they had dropped in audio sound of

656
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: spurs as his kitchen stuff approach kitchen.

657
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: Famously, Boba, who we know of from the Star Wars

658
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: holiday show, loves to ride giant beasts. He needs those spurs. Uh.

659
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: And now we have confirmation that it is, indeed was

660
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: Boba fet Uh through the course of this episode. Later

661
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: in the flashback, we see Boba on Banta back and

662
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: this is let me just say, this is the best

663
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: Star Wars band. It's the content we've ever had. One

664
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 1: time to be a fan of the Bantha.

665
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 3: Listen, if you're out in these streets, yes, and you're saying,

666
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 3: you know what I need more from in my Star Wars,

667
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 3: I gotta have it. Banthas and Bactas. This show is

668
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 3: for you. This show is Walter Wallbanthas and Bactis.

669
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: Lots of bb action. We see Boba ride on the

670
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: Bantha back to Jaba's palace and the fortress is surrounded

671
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: by henchees, so much security that Boba's like, I'm not

672
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: going in there. Later, after dinner and some cuddle time

673
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: with the bantha. Again, this is like fantastic. We see

674
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: the bantha tongue, we get to see the bantha eat.

675
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 3: And last last week it was the rancorps, like Boba

676
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 3: loves animals. Who would have thought when we were kids,

677
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: when we were kids and Boba Fett had had had

678
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 3: like was such a mystery to us, was such a

679
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 3: obsessive character to obsess upon and try and figure out.

680
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 3: Who would have thought that he loves animals.

681
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: Absolutely loves them and indeed might be discovering that on

682
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: his own right now in front of our eyes, you know,

683
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: clearly like he's a different person after being digested for

684
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: a while in the sarlac stomach. And I think he's

685
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: just he needs that thing in his life that he

686
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: loves loyalty obviously as we know, and he just wants

687
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: a bond with an animal. It's beautiful.

688
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 3: Only it seemingly the only animal that Boba is not

689
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: interested in cuddling with is the sarlac.

690
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: It's it well, I mean that was against his will

691
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: and can send is so important obviously, So Boba, after

692
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: having a wonderful dinner and snack time with the Banta,

693
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: he looks in the sky sees these flash charges lighting up.

694
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: This guy rides over there, and there he finds our

695
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: friend Fennick Shan seriously wounded a near death. Boba's like,

696
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: I must save Fenix's life. He rides with Fennek on

697
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: Banta back to the Free Inge of Mosiley, a place

698
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: where body modifications are performed for the mostly younger citizens

699
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 1: of tattooing. This is like a young person's.

700
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: Basically set up. I felt like they were using visual

701
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 3: cues to tell you that this is like a tattoo parlor.

702
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: This is a tattoo parlor parlor exactly. This is like

703
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: getting your eyebrow, yes.

704
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 3: And the nice if you're on tattooing at this time,

705
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 3: all the kids are doing body modifications, yes, putting, like

706
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 3: putting cybernetic parts in their bodies.

707
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 1: And not because like Luke, they got their hands chopped

708
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: off in a domestic dispute with your father. You're doing

709
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: it just because it's like cool and fun. They want

710
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 1: to just like express themselves.

711
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: Just just as a way to rebel.

712
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: At the bodymart parlor, which is clerked by the musician Thundercat,

713
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: who I love that the producers were just like you

714
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: look like you're in Star Wars.

715
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 3: No changes, like we're just to get in here. You're

716
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 3: the guy that's it.

717
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: Uh.

718
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: Boba is like hey listen, They're like, aren't you old

719
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: to be in here? Which calm down thunder Cat like

720
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: is do you not like credits? Like what is your problem?

721
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 3: But also like like a Thundercat goes from like what

722
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 3: to me appears to be doing kind of almost cosmetic yeah,

723
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 3: applications of cybernetics or whatever, to basically rebuilding Fenixshan's entire

724
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 3: like abdomen and body, like he he saves, he's he's

725
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 3: not just like a tat. It would be like if

726
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 3: you brought a dying person to a tattoo artist and said,

727
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: like you need to tattoo a full sleeve on their

728
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 3: arm and it needs to save their life, or you

729
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: need to tattoo like a phoenix rising on their chest

730
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 3: and it needs to give them new lungs.

731
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: Like two things. Two things. I love that one Thundercat

732
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: sees Boba Fett, it's a stranger to him come into

733
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 1: his parlor carrying a near death woman and his first

734
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: comment is aren't you a little old to be in here?

735
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 1: That's where his head is at And secondly, I haven't

736
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 1: been able to stop thinking about Thundercat previous to this incident.

737
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: Just trying to convince these kids, Hey, what if I

738
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: replace your heart? Like I've been really working on the

739
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,479
Speaker 1: medical angle of what we do, and I know, like, yes,

740
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: you want like some new you want like a hypervision

741
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: eye or some kind of like really cool ear, or

742
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: maybe like a metal fin on your head. But let

743
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: me just pitch you on this. What if I replaced

744
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: your heart and lungs and left it open so.

745
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: People could see it general grievous style? Yes, what if

746
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,959
Speaker 3: we grievoused you? What if we just left shit open

747
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 3: so people can see what's up?

748
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: Can I grieves you?

749
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 3: That's no charge. I'm just trying. I just can I

750
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 3: get your can sent to grievous you?

751
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: Yes? Uh so, Baba's like, listen, I need you to

752
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: save this woman's life. And by the way, here's a

753
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: bag of credits and ThunderCats like why didn't you say so?

754
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: And he just leaps to the job, replaces, as you noted,

755
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: all her internal organs, but leaves it open just so

756
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: people can really look at the work and say.

757
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: Well that, and so that she can because that's the

758
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 3: other thing, like I want to impress upon everybody, like

759
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 3: there is no back to tank, there's no back to patches. No,

760
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 3: there's no medical This is not a medical facility at all.

761
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 3: But they do invasive medical procedures on Fanish Shand who

762
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 3: then they just release back into the dune sea, like

763
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 3: they go back into the desert.

764
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: And his like the stuff he was using was basically

765
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 1: like a few mirrors and like a and like a

766
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: welding torch. I hope hopefully they wiped her down with

767
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: back to I don't I assume. Yeah, Shand awakens in

768
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 1: the desert and she's like, man, my stomach feels weird.

769
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: Boba Is hands her a black melon and says, you

770
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: got to drink this. So you've been through a lot.

771
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 1: You don't even know what's happened.

772
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 3: It's like it's like loop In handing Harry some chocolate

773
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,479
Speaker 3: after he sees the dementor. He's like, what you're about

774
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 3: to see's gonna freak you out. You should take a

775
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: couple of drops of this first.

776
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, please please imbibe of this.

777
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: Boba knows you.

778
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: Finik is A is well aware of her resume. So

779
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: Shandon is like, uh oh, the great and powerful Boba

780
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: Fet is about to collect the bounty on me, and

781
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: he's like, no, no, no, no, no, I'm a different guy now.

782
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 3: I'm loving him saying I am Boba Fet to people.

783
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: That's right, I'm Bubba Fett. I love he says it

784
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: in a way Bubba, it's like a Bubba.

785
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 3: The accent is not where I would have put it,

786
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 3: but it's great.

787
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: That is exactly the way I feel. You know, a

788
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: lot of this stuff, it's like you you know, particularly

789
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: with Star Wars and a character like Boba Fett, where

790
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: it's like you barely hear him speak, and all the

791
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: content that in my mind about Boba Fet is like

792
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: to a total of seven minutes, but that I held

793
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: in my mind for decades. It is really interesting to

794
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 1: see other people say these words and say his name

795
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: and stuff. It's been really fun. So Boba says, listen,

796
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: I'm a different person now. I spent a lot of

797
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: time with the Tuscans. It changed my life, honestly, like

798
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: it was a life changing experience. I need your help

799
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: recovering my ship formally called the Slave One, I'm not

800
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: calling it that now. It's a different time. We're not

801
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: going to call it the slave one anymore.

802
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: And I'm not even going to reference that it used

803
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 3: to be called Slave one, right, We're not.

804
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna I'm just gonna call it by the model

805
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 1: and make of my ship and ps it's at Jaba's palace.

806
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: Wherefore Tuna is currently rule.

807
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question, Jays, do you think

808
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 3: that in the in last week's episode, when we saw

809
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 3: that the Tuscan raiders who had or the yeah, the

810
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: Tuscan raiders that had been that had taken Boba in

811
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 3: and they were massacred by the biker gang we we

812
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 3: think they were. Do you think that all of them

813
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 3: were massacred or do you think Boba will be eventually

814
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 3: reunited with some maybe they're being held hostage or something

815
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 3: like or are they all? Are we meant to believe that.

816
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 3: I think the show so far has been a little

817
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 3: unsuccessful in telling the information and communicating information in a

818
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: way that I know exactly. I'm still not clear what's

819
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 3: going on. Do you think that chapter is done or it's.

820
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: A great question. I feel like there will be survivors.

821
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: I think the kid will survive. I think the child

822
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: because he burns the sticks.

823
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 3: He burns the kids stick, you know, which to me

824
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 3: felt like the kid is in there, but I don't.

825
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 3: Maybe you're right.

826
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: I feel like because we didn't see the kid explicitly,

827
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: I feel like they will be reunited. It's okay the future. Yeah,

828
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: and it also felt like, you know, a kind of

829
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 1: weird double beat with Attack of the Clones and Anikin

830
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: mastering the Tuscans. So it felt like we're going to

831
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: get a note. I feel like the producers will give

832
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: us a note of hope there. That is just a guess,

833
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: I hope.

834
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, because that was frankly the part of the

835
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 3: show that I had been enjoying the most were those

836
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 3: slashbacks to when he was taken in by the Tusken

837
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 3: Raiders and and and the train heist and all of that.

838
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 3: Those stories were those episodes were my favorite so far.

839
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 3: The last two episodes have not been as interesting to me.

840
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 3: The introduction of the the mods, you know, like the mods.

841
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: The mods have the mods and the and the like

842
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: the Zoomer generation tattooing kids. Yes, are divisive, let's just

843
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: say that.

844
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 3: Well, they are the mods. They're called the mods because

845
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 3: their body modifications but they're also the Mods because it's

846
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 3: the direct Quadraphenia reference.

847
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: Yes, between and down to the scooters.

848
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, the scooters with the multiple the colorful scooters with

849
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 3: the multiple rearview mirrors is literally from the whose Quadraphenia movie,

850
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 3: which is and it's the Mods versus the Rockers, And

851
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 3: so the Biker Gang the Speeder Gang are dressed like Rockers,

852
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 3: and I'm like, why did they do this? Is where?

853
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 3: This is where the show This was the first time

854
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: any of these shows maybe go uh oh, wait, what's this?

855
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 1: I think what happened? Here's my guess on what happened. Yeah,

856
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: I think that the producers of the show, who are

857
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 1: fantastic and do a great.

858
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 3: Job, incredible, incredible, I think.

859
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: They I think somewhere in the broader like Lucasfilm Disney structure,

860
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: someone had the note of Okay, love what you're doing.

861
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: You know, Boba fet is like sixty and maybe no

862
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: one is like fifty. Maybe, and then again there's a

863
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: note but maybe we need some younger people in this,

864
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 1: and I think that's what happened.

865
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: And they were like, well, we do have a giant wookie. Okay,

866
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 3: hang on, that might not solve the but like maybe

867
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 3: some somebody that would like younger viewers might identify.

868
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,479
Speaker 1: With right, and they might and they might be like, ah,

869
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: oh this is great.

870
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 3: Here's my twins.

871
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: Can I can I interest you in like two to

872
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: three hundred year old incestuous hot twins, you know, right,

873
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: It's like this is spitballing, like riding a palanquin together

874
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: and like caressing each other's tails.

875
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 3: Do you think do you think young people will I well,

876
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 3: will really resonate, that will resonate with the youth of today.

877
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: Right, And then somebody was like, hold on intercest is.

878
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 3: The number one porn search, so maybe that's going to

879
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 3: be part of it.

880
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: And only that's an only in only certain parts of

881
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: the country according to the maps I've seen. I think

882
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: this is also how Thundercat got in. So Shanda grees

883
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: to help Boba and they go to Jaba's old house,

884
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: now inhabited by bit for Tuna. Finnik Uh uses a

885
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: small droned reconnointer Java's house, and the inside of it

886
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: is like like a splinter cell video game, with the

887
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: guards like constantly cycling through their roots. They are I'll

888
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: tell you.

889
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: This felt like a video game mission absolutely, yes.

890
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Jaba and then Bib, you guys are getting your

891
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 1: money's worth with these henschees because they never stop working.

892
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: So they reconnointer the house, they get the whole layout.

893
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: They and Shin's like, okay, we got a time are

894
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: raid to the cycles of the guards. Later, Boba, we

895
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: get another Bonta moment where Boba's like, okay, I free

896
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: you go Bansa wander the desert once again. He has

897
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: to throw like a piece of meat to.

898
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 3: Get He has like a he has like a go on,

899
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 3: get go on, get out of here. You like when

900
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 3: when like like the kids trying to get rid of

901
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 3: his dog or whatever, He's like, get out of here.

902
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 3: I never liked you. He has like a heartwarming moment

903
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 3: where he's trying to get rid of his Bantha.

904
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: Okay, first of all, I walk faster than you do.

905
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: You get it.

906
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 3: When I need to get somewhere fast, I have to

907
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 3: get off and run. Yes, you are at Hindrance. Come on,

908
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 3: give me a blurg, Give.

909
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: Me a blurg please, So he tells Boba, then tells

910
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: Shan that I need to rege. I need to get

911
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,959
Speaker 1: my armor back so people fear me again I'm gonna

912
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: take down be before too, and I'm gonna take over

913
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: and that is my plan. And you're gonna help me

914
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: with this because listen, my time with the Tuscans again,

915
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: it really altered the arc of my life and it

916
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: showed me that you can't you can't do anything alone here,

917
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: I need to try.

918
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 3: Which I liked. I liked this part, this, this scene

919
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: alone is I'm like, okay, cool, but you know what,

920
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 3: that's the show I'm currently watching. Like, I'm already what, guy,

921
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 3: I'm already watching your show. I know that you got

922
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 3: her out and got her fixed, I know you got

923
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 3: the ship, and I've already seen you get the armor.

924
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 3: You don't need to tell me all this in your show.

925
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 3: I watched the other show. So this this episode felt

926
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 3: a little redundant to me. What was being communicated was

927
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 3: being redundant.

928
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: You know, some double beats definitely happening at this point

929
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: in time in the Boba Fett show. So they sneak

930
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: in shand brutally slits the throat of uh General Choppis

931
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 1: who which is my name for the household cooking droid

932
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: who has six arms much like Joey Grist and Ball

933
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: general choppas wants to do is like prepare mules. And

934
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: I thought this was like a this was like shockingly brutal,

935
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: but that's fine. That tiny ratcatcher droid arrives and ye

936
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: blows everyone's cover. I absolutely love this.

937
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 3: Love love the droid work here, and I love and

938
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 3: you know, and I also love getting to see because

939
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 3: finis shand Mingo when is doing amazing work on this show.

940
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 3: I want to say, and I think that that character

941
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 3: is such a badass and and I love that character.

942
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 3: And I loved that character when we are first introduced

943
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 3: to her in uh In late earlier in the Bad Batch. Yes,

944
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 3: when she goes head to head with our guy Cadbane

945
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 3: uh caan the best, and so we've seen her be

946
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 3: so such a like incredibly efficient assassin and such a badass.

947
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 3: I was I like that this scene, this action scene existed,

948
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 3: because I feel like she's not gotten a chance to

949
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 3: like work it out over the course of this series.

950
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 3: You know, she's doing a lot of what do you

951
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 3: want me to do? Boss? You want me to follow him? Boss?

952
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, but like, also, she is a badass.

953
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 3: Let's see this happen.

954
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm glad that she did get to cut loose again.

955
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: It was brutal, particularly when contrasted immediately with the very

956
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: very cute Roddroid. Just to remind you, hey, when Fennick

957
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 1: cut the throat of the cook was a real thinking,

958
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: conscious organism that like hated that that was happening, like

959
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: really didn't want it to occur, but it did. So

960
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: Boba and Shanned. Of course there are complications, but they

961
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: do steal the ship formerly known as Slave one, and

962
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: I promised the last time I'm going to reference that

963
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: it was at one point in time called Slave one.

964
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: Shan's life debt paid. Boba's like, listen, wherever you want

965
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: to go, I'm good, I'll drop you off. But you know,

966
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: but Shanda is like, you know what, we're getting to

967
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 1: work stuff out. There's some action going on. I like this,

968
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with it. Later. Boba now in the

969
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: ship with Shand at his side, they just do a

970
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: massacre on the nick do sand Riders literally just massacre

971
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: the entire gang.

972
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 3: So like, now are those guys gone? Like I was,

973
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 3: This is what I keep being like, Wait, is that

974
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 3: the end of that storyline? It can't be, but it's

975
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: not being that's not being communicated well enough to me

976
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 3: because I I'm like, wait, was that them? That was that?

977
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 3: Did he just get them all? And that's it?

978
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 1: I agree with you. It feels like a larger showdown. Yeah,

979
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: kind of.

980
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 3: Has to happen, right, I think so that would it?

981
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 3: Just it has to feel more satisfying in that way,

982
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 3: or it needs to be revealed that it wasn't the

983
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 3: nickto bike biker gang. They were framed by the Pikes

984
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 3: or somebody else exactly, and that Boba realizes he did

985
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 3: that in as a mistake.

986
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: You know, Jon Favreau, if you're listening, here's a note, like,

987
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: just give me a scene where Boba goes back to

988
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: talk to the Pikes, and the Pike Ambassador slash gang

989
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: captain says, you got them all?

990
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 3: Wow, you got you got them?

991
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: Okay, So then Boba's like, I need my armor. Last time,

992
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: I let me think where I see it. Last time

993
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: I saw it for sure was I was being digested

994
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: for potentially ten thousand years in the gut of the

995
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: of the Sarlac.

996
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 3: After a after a temporarily blind man accidental knocked me

997
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 3: into the Starlac. Bit unceremoniously.

998
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: Ps. I'm one of the greatest, if not the greatest

999
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: bounty hunter in the galaxy. But you know, everybody fucks

1000
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: up a little bit.

1001
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 3: Sometimes I got jostled.

1002
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: There was a light like fine, there was so much

1003
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: going on when that happened. Let me just it wasn't

1004
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 1: like that's what I was and that's it.

1005
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 3: That seemed to be like panic being like wait, so wait,

1006
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 3: tell me again what happened.

1007
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me just streuss you. It wasn't just me

1008
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: and him and he's blind, and it like he took

1009
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: me out. There's other stuff going around.

1010
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 3: The whole pleasure barge is going down, and you know.

1011
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: Going down, you can hear the screams like the Jedi

1012
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: are back. Wait, what is this?

1013
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 3: So the last words you heard were Boba fet? Where's

1014
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: Boba fet? And then nothing else.

1015
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: Oh okay, So Boba and Chan to go to the Starlac.

1016
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: They're like a dental procedure, peering deep into the mouth.

1017
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 3: Of this They are pointed straight down the straight into

1018
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 3: the gullet of the sarlac with a flashlight with like

1019
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 3: a with a powerful flashlight looking for Boba's armor. And

1020
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 3: this is again and again I really want to stress,

1021
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 3: like I'm loving these shows. I'm loving that we're getting

1022
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 3: more of these worlds. I'm loving frankly that we're getting

1023
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 3: more of Boba fet But my guy, I saw where

1024
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 3: this the jaw was took your armor. We the audience

1025
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 3: know it's not in there. So this is a wasted space.

1026
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 3: This is wasted time.

1027
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: The Sarlac grabs the ship, because the Sarlac does that,

1028
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: That's how it eats. It grabs stuff that's near its mouth.

1029
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: You should have known that by now. Boba and Shan

1030
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: manages to get them out of it by dropping a

1031
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 1: depth charge into the into the Sarlac. The Sarlac is dead.

1032
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: Boba dives in to the Sarlac corpse to like look around,

1033
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: doesn't find the armor, finds a lot of trash, and

1034
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: of course, as you noted, we know where, we know

1035
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: where the armory is, the javas having okay exactly. Boba

1036
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 1: then talks with Shann about, hey, crazy blue Sky pitch here, Okay,

1037
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: what if I and you we start our own organized

1038
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: crime send to get the bosses are fucking dumb. Jaba

1039
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: got taken out by again by like three people like

1040
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: in the center of.

1041
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 3: His plans union, we have a free lancers union.

1042
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: Let's cut out the top and use our expertise and

1043
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: profit from it. And so you offer Shann a job

1044
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: as essentially his partner in crime, a cut of the

1045
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: profits and his eternal loyalty. And then in quick flashback scenes,

1046
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: we see Boba murdering Bib for tuna Bib, who's like,

1047
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: initially like Bulba hello, just like zero, no discussion.

1048
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 3: No nothing, nothing, It's just like bye bye, Like this

1049
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 3: is always I Here's the thing. I don't understand, even

1050
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 3: when Boba is trying to explain it, I'm still not

1051
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 3: sure what his actual plan is writ large, you know,

1052
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 3: like well, you.

1053
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: Know, he's developing it as we go.

1054
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 3: It's very improvisational, it's very very much so.

1055
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: But I gotta say I'm impressed with how far he's

1056
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: gotten thus far with basically nothing further than well, you know, Fortuna,

1057
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: And everybody's like, that's great, you're the guy now.

1058
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 3: It's interesting. Favreau comes out of the improv scene of Chicago,

1059
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 3: and that's why people like Dave Pasquayzi or Amy Sedaris

1060
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 3: show up in a lot of his shows, because that's

1061
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 3: his generation of Chicago improvisers, and so maybe he's casting

1062
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 3: Boba as like an improvisational crime lord. You know, he's

1063
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 3: really yes anding his way into this.

1064
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: Uh fennik, Can I get a word?

1065
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 3: Can I?

1066
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: And that's what and that's.

1067
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 3: You know, Can I get an emotion? Please? Can I

1068
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 3: just get an emotion? Okay? Great?

1069
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: So Boba then emerges from the back to tank. This

1070
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: was all flashback back in tech stuff. Shan says, Hey,

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00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 1: the major Domo, who we are theoretically torturing in order

1072
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: to get information about the mayor, has nothing to say

1073
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: about the mayor.

1074
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 3: And this is master improviser Dave Psquayzi, who is absolutely so.

1075
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: Funny, so good. I just love the kind of like oily,

1076
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: grimy kind of demeanor of this person whose job is

1077
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: to basically shine you on at every turn and keep

1078
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: you away from the mayor who is probably like in

1079
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: his or her or their office, like you know, watching

1080
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: porn hub or something. But the Major Domo is like

1081
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: a very important meeting now it can't be disturbed. So

1082
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: Boba puts on his armor, and they need to find

1083
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: out more stuff about the mayor. So he and again

1084
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 1: this is one of those things where why are they

1085
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: going to the cantina.

1086
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 3: But I'm great.

1087
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: I pieced it together. But it's fine. Boba and Chant

1088
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: head down to Garza flips cantina. Guess who's already there.

1089
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: Chris Anton Black Chrisanden is there stewing, angry knuckle dusters, sparking,

1090
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: watching a group of rowdy Trandosans. Now, if you for

1091
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: folks not deep into the granular content of Star Wars,

1092
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: Trandosans are known for capturing and enslaving Wookies.

1093
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 3: They are like, like, you know, they are wooko to wookies.

1094
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 3: Trandosians are like their natural enemy, like they are doesn't

1095
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 3: like them. There is bad blood there. There is bad blood.

1096
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: So Chris is like hanging out and over there, you know,

1097
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: like right across the room is like a group of

1098
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: Trandosans and they're going fucking nuts. They're spraying cash around,

1099
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: they're winning at the tables, and Chris hasis so he

1100
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: walks over and he just opens like a galaxy size

1101
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: can of whoop ass on them, is murdering them. Willing Neil,

1102
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: nearly the last survivor, is there. Black perscented lifts this

1103
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: transotion in the air, and then Garza steps forward. It's like, oh,

1104
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: hold on, this is bad for business, but I get it.

1105
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 3: You're legend.

1106
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: Hear you, You're a legend.

1107
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: Listen.

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01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: Nobody dominated the fighting pits like you. Everybody knows what

1109
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: a badass you are. You know, like you're a wookie

1110
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: just to start with, so people are scared of you.

1111
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: But then you add the fighting pit stuff into it,

1112
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: and everybody knows how tough you are. You don't need

1113
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: to do this. And I might add, let me just

1114
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: you know, gently raise your bar tab, which is significant.

1115
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: What do you say we just cancel that out and

1116
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: you let this transdotion you got the other three, let

1117
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: this guy go and we'll just call it all even.

1118
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: And then Black percent and tears the Trandosan's arm off, which.

1119
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 3: It's a great call back to it, love exactly. I

1120
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 3: loved this as as just a class thick Wookie move,

1121
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 3: like I just ribbing dude's arm off.

1122
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: Here we go, and then pays his tab because listen,

1123
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: no one is going to say that Black Chrisanda doesn't

1124
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: pay his debts. Yes when necessary, okay, I was gonna

1125
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: pay that.

1126
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 3: A character that our text chain exploded upon his introduction,

1127
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 3: because like a I could not be more excited when

1128
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 3: when Black Chris came on screen with the the Hut

1129
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 3: Twins whatever two episodes ago, I flipped out in my

1130
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 3: living room. I flipped out. I was so excited.

1131
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: I was mildly depressed the previous episode when it seemed

1132
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: like Black was out of it, like like Chris Sanden was.

1133
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: They let him go.

1134
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 3: They were just going to be that. Yeah.

1135
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: So delighted that Boba and Chris, Haanden have hooked up

1136
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: once again. Out on the street after ripping the Transdosan's

1137
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 1: arm off, Boba offers Black Crescent in a job he agrees. Later,

1138
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: back at the Palace, Shanda and Boba, along with Black

1139
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: chrisantin or hosting the assorted gang captains, and once again,

1140
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 1: Boba's like, can I get a word? What if the

1141
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 1: word is a liance, folks? What about that? What if

1142
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: the word is mutual benefit? That's two words or a

1143
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: compound word. You can put a little you know, like

1144
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: a little dash in between them. But like, what if

1145
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: it's that? Shand offers the gangs listen, she knows what

1146
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: they want. They want wealth, But serve Boba, you get rich.

1147
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: Pretty good deal, I think, Boba says Listen, your territory,

1148
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: that's yours. Whatever you want to do there, that's none

1149
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: of my business. But just do me a favor. Either

1150
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: two choices, help me taking on the Pikes, a major

1151
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: crime syndicate known throughout the galaxy, very very powerful. Or

1152
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: if you can't go that far, just like, don't betray me, don't.

1153
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 3: Work with them, don't work with them to destroy me.

1154
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 3: If you're not gonna help me, remain neutral.

1155
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: Please just do that. And the gangs, you know, they

1156
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: kind of they kind of mull it over, but then

1157
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: they all agree and then Boba Tel shanned later, Okay,

1158
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: we've got the gangs out of the way, we've got

1159
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: their acquiescence. It's time for war. What do we do?

1160
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: And Fenix says, well, we need some muscle, need some henchies.

1161
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: And just as I'm about to think, oh does this

1162
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: mean cad Bane? Who does this mean? What could this

1163
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: possible mean? I know Mandalorian theme.

1164
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 3: I was like WHOA. I was like, Mando is going

1165
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 3: to show up in this show?

1166
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? So I was very excite, very

1167
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 1: excited that that happens. Listen, can we get is can

1168
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: we get Grogu back in the mix or No, probably not,

1169
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 1: but listen, I'm excited anyway.

1170
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 3: My guess is it's going to be a post end

1171
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 3: of season two Mando has lost grog not lost, but

1172
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 3: has let Grogu go off with Luke. This will be

1173
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 3: pre whatever happens in Ando season three, in some in

1174
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 3: that timeline.

1175
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: Right, yes, let me ask you this.

1176
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 3: Like, maybe does Bokatan and her crew of Mandalorians join?

1177
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: Here is a weird window into me and my emotional state, right,

1178
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: even thinking about could Bokatan show up here? Like I

1179
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: get a weirdly emotional. Oh, you know, like this is

1180
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: comfort food for me.

1181
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 3: I just rewatched all of Mandalorian leading into the Boba

1182
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 3: Fett show, and when Bokatan arrives, I sobbed. When when

1183
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 3: they said when Bocatan says there and there you will

1184
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 3: find Ahsokatano, I was sobbed. Again. Yes, crazy, I'm very emotional,

1185
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 3: but uh yeah, no, these characters are like so incredibly

1186
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 3: important to me.

1187
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: You know, I've spent a lot of time with them,

1188
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: as have you and I and you know, as we

1189
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: were talking about at the top of the segment, you know,

1190
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 1: shared stories are just so important. Right now, this is

1191
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 1: like how I feel like I connect with people. I

1192
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,479
Speaker 1: connect with you, I connect with my other friends would

1193
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 1: talk about this age you see what happened in Boba Fett,

1194
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: Like are you watching I'm rewatching the Clone Wars, I'm

1195
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: rewatching a mandalorin season two. And so even the idea

1196
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: that Bocatan could show up, it's so stupid, but I

1197
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 1: really wanted to happen. Oh, Like emotional level, I really

1198
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: wanted to.

1199
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 3: I want that. I want that conversation. I want there

1200
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 3: to be a Bokatan ding Jaren Boba Fett conversation, Like

1201
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 3: I want to hear all that I because I'm with you.

1202
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 3: Also like there's a way in which, oh boy, I

1203
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 3: would love it if kad Bane showed up, or I

1204
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 3: would love it if some of the other iconic bounty

1205
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 3: hunter slash muscle types that are still out there that

1206
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 3: we know would show up. But I can see a

1207
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 3: very clear path to it being a post season two

1208
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 3: Mandalorian ding Jaren Bokatan and her compatriots in that cell

1209
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 3: of Mandalorians. You know Den Jaron, does he have the

1210
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 3: dark Saber.

1211
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: Here's my pitch for what we're talking about, Basically all

1212
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 1: of book A Boavet has been about this former loaner

1213
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: who you know, even in his relationship with his father

1214
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: slash Clone, you know, it wasn't there was a lot

1215
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: of abandonment issues, but has always been taking orders due

1216
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: you know, on his own. He learned the value of

1217
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: alliances of having a tribe from the Tuscans, and he's

1218
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 1: putting that into action. Now. He wears Mandalorian horror, but

1219
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: he doesn't really know Mandalorian culture right now.

1220
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 3: No, no, not at all.

1221
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: Here is a widening of the tribe, the actual Mandalorians,

1222
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: the real Mandalorians who have been living and brought up

1223
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 1: within that culture, bringing Boba in and teaching him about

1224
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 1: that heritage. I think it would be of a piece

1225
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: with the theme of this show thus far, oh and

1226
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: be really cool and also I really want it.

1227
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 3: I also I also kind of want it too, because

1228
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 3: there's a way in which there's still a dissonance between

1229
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 3: Bocatan's Mandalorian and Mandelor and ding Jaren's Mandlor, which is,

1230
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 3: you know, what I think we're meant to understand is

1231
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 3: ding Jaren is has been raised within like an offshoot

1232
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 3: of Death Watch, you know, and if so, he really

1233
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 3: has so little understanding of Mandalorian history and what the

1234
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 3: war for Mandelor was and all of like the Duchess Seteen,

1235
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 3: all of the storyline that we understand from Clone Wars

1236
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 3: and so forth, you know, all of that stuff. If

1237
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 3: Ding Jaren doesn't know any of that, and and there's

1238
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 3: a way in which we can get understanding and include

1239
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 3: Boba Fett, Like there's something really compelling there that could

1240
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 3: be an engine or provide momentum into season three of Mandalorian,

1241
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 3: which could I.

1242
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,719
Speaker 1: Really love the idea of Bokaton like sitting Ding Jaron

1243
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: and down and just being like, Okay, Jin, I know

1244
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: you've been living in this weird underground existence, like fighting

1245
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 1: for your life in this very small cell of Mandalarid culture.

1246
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 1: But I'm going to tell you the history of our

1247
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: people in recent years. Here's what happened. That would be amazing. Yeah,

1248
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: if we get something like that.

1249
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 3: Oh I do too, Jason.

1250
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 1: Anything else, it's first of all, fantastic to spend this

1251
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 1: time with you, fantastic to see you. Anything else to

1252
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: plug other than the recent announcement that your Tommy Lee's

1253
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,480
Speaker 1: penis in the upcoming Tommy and Pam Hulu series.

1254
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 3: I am not I'm not his penis. I am the

1255
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 3: voice of his penis. Ah, i am. I am the

1256
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 3: voice of Tommy Lee's penis in an episode of that series,

1257
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 3: which I think is going to be very funny. Well,

1258
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 3: you know, we talked about it earlier. How did this

1259
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,759
Speaker 3: get made? Podcast? You know, it's wow, wonderful. Like myself,

1260
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,879
Speaker 3: Paul Sheer, June Dayan Rafield, we talk about bad movies.

1261
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 3: You know, we've got we've been doing it now for

1262
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 3: eleven years. Is there something crazy like that? And then

1263
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 3: you know, listen, you know, talking about this with you.

1264
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 3: I'm I'm so enjoying this show and so much.

1265
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 1: So that's really nice for you to say.

1266
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 3: That, Like I really am, Like I'm I'm diving into

1267
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 3: stuff that you're talking about that I'm not checking out,

1268
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,719
Speaker 3: or like the comics episode, Like like if you're listening,

1269
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 3: if you're cherry picking episodes of this show, and you're like,

1270
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 3: I'm not a big comics person. I don't need to

1271
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 3: listen to the comics episode. Listen to the comics episode

1272
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 3: and buy those books. Like I've been reading stuff you

1273
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,600
Speaker 3: guys have been talking about. It's I'm really enjoying the

1274
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 3: I'm really enjoying listening and learning about stuff that I

1275
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 3: do that I'm not because a lot of times you're

1276
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 3: talking about stuff that I am also passionate about, but

1277
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 3: sometimes not, you know, and sometimes I'm like, and I

1278
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 3: like the part where it's like somebody's trying to convince

1279
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 3: you to watch a thing that you don't watch yet.

1280
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 3: And there have been a couple there's been one of

1281
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 3: those that I was like, maybe I need what was

1282
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 3: an Attack on Titan? Maybe I need to watch Attack

1283
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 3: on Titan. This is a very compelling case.

1284
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 1: I've got it in my I got it in my queue.

1285
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,919
Speaker 3: Up next, Where are you are? Where are you on Arcane?

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01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: Oh? I finished Arcane? I loved it.

1287
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 3: You did? Okay, I'm midway through it and I'm I

1288
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,600
Speaker 3: I'm enjoying it. But it also feels so much like

1289
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 3: a video game to me that it's weird.

1290
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 1: See. Now here's the thing. I am not a League

1291
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 1: of Legends person.

1292
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 3: I'm not a video game person.

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01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, no idea about the lore. I you know, we

1294
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 1: talked about this on the show, Dick. I was just

1295
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: like knocked out by the visual style. I get what

1296
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: you're saying about the video game stuff, but it didn't,

1297
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 1: I guess because I know kind of how you play

1298
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 1: League of Legends, but the fact that there's no kind

1299
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 1: of like one to one, Oh, that's like a game mechanic.

1300
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: That's how that is. Yes that I don't perceive it

1301
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: that way, but I understand what you're saying. I'll just

1302
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 1: say that I loved some of the twists in it

1303
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: were and have been really really great. I love the show.

1304
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 1: It was one of the great surprise watches of you know,

1305
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: recent weeks. I've enjoyed great.

1306
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,560
Speaker 3: Okay, good because I'm like, I'm midway through it, so

1307
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 3: I'm and I'm enjoying it. I just I think I

1308
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 3: just got to commit and go blast my web through

1309
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 3: the rest.

1310
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 1: Anything else, anything else to say, anything else that you

1311
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 1: want to recommend to people on our.

1312
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:11,600
Speaker 3: Own, buddy, I don't know what else am I What

1313
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 3: else am I liking? There? Are I mean, Station eleven fantastic.

1314
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of like things that people might

1315
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 3: not be checking out that I think are great, cause

1316
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,600
Speaker 3: there have been things that I feel like, you know,

1317
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 3: there's a new season of Letter Kenny that's up, which

1318
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 3: is a Canadian sitcom that I'm obsessed with that I.

1319
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 1: Love fantastic show and weird, you know, much like Shit's Creek.

1320
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: You may have heard the word Leonard Kenny, but a

1321
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 1: lot of times that for some reason, like stuff doesn't

1322
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,719
Speaker 1: pierce the Canada US border. In me, it's the same way.

1323
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 1: Show has been going on for a while. If you

1324
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: can check it out, please check it out. Very funny.

1325
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 3: There's ten seasons of it. Another show on HBO Max

1326
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 3: and I think is incredible is called south Side. If

1327
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 3: you're looking for like, cause I've been trying to, I

1328
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 3: want comedy, I want funny, hard funny things, and Letter

1329
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 3: Kenny scratches that itch. The show called Southside on HBO

1330
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,640
Speaker 3: Max is incredible. It's similar to Letter Kenny in the

1331
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 3: sense that it's about a whole different cast of characters

1332
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 3: in the South Side of Chicago and like following them

1333
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 3: all through like their exploits, and they don't all necessarily,

1334
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 3: you know, coalesce into one long storyline. So it's really

1335
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,600
Speaker 3: fun and really very funny, hard funny show. Have you

1336
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 3: seen any of Aquaman King of Atlantis? No, dude, do

1337
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 3: yourself a favor. Check out Aquaman King of Atlantis. There's

1338
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 3: three forty five minute episodes up and it's fucking funny. Uh,

1339
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 3: it's really funny. And then Peacemaker is is really fucking good.

1340
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: Peace Maker is very funny. Peacemaker is basically a sitcom

1341
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: like that. You know, we were tied was talking about

1342
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 1: it with Rosie earlier. In terms of like overarching plot,

1343
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a lot of nothing happens, but

1344
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: there's I'm having a one a one plus jokes.

1345
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 3: Agree hard agree, Like, I don't care where this story

1346
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 3: is going. I'm not invested in the butterflies. I'm not like,

1347
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 3: I'm not like, what do you think this means. I'm

1348
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 3: just like having a blast. It's they're doing a great job,

1349
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 3: just kind of blowing it out, and I'm really enjoying it.

1350
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 1: You can see John Cena's butt cheeks, raw butt cheeks

1351
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 1: from the side, so if that interests you. That happens

1352
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:14,879
Speaker 1: in lots.

1353
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 3: Of but it's an R rated lots of butt.

1354
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 1: Cheeks, lots of butt cheeks, and again, probably the greatest

1355
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:21,520
Speaker 1: title sequence.

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01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 3: In Boship Memory without it, doubt and like one of

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01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 3: the only ones I never skipped.

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01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: Ever never Jason, this has been Jason fantastic. Jason. I've

1359
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,719
Speaker 1: loved seeing you. H Please come on again.

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01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 3: I would love to. I would listen. Nothing makes me

1361
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 3: happier than talking about Star Wars with you. We didn't oh,

1362
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 3: you know what we didn't talk about was Harry Potter.

1363
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 3: We texted about it a lot because we both cried

1364
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 3: quite a bit along with you.

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01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 1: I now have been texting about it. I mean, it

1366
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: was a lot more managed than I was expecting. And I

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01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 1: say this, like, I thought it was going to be

1368
01:14:56,080 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 1: a little more round tablely. But you spend some much

1369
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: time with these characters and then it's clear that the

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01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: actors also, oh, have this relationship that is so intimate

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01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 1: with each other, with the characters, with the story written large,

1372
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: and it just it was left me. It left me

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01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 1: in tears.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, listen, I'm like forty nine years old, like,

1375
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 3: and my relationship to these stories is like I've been,

1376
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 3: you know, re listening to the audio books of the

1377
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 3: of the Harry Potter books recently because they're like part

1378
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 3: of my like holiday kind of like around the holidays,

1379
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 3: I always fall back into Harry Potter. I always watched

1380
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 3: the movies and listen to the books, and I've been

1381
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 3: listening to old binge mode Harry Potter episodes because they're

1382
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 3: a great kind of compliment to processing those stories again,

1383
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 3: and so you know, like there's something about like being

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01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 3: back in that world. You know, the films aren't my

1385
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:54,600
Speaker 3: number one version of those stories. It nonetheless was so

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01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 3: great to listen to them talk about them, listen to them,

1387
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 3: especially listening to people talk about out Richard Harris or

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01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 3: Alan Rickman and the people that have died since in

1389
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 3: working that young generation. I loved hearing the young generation

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01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 3: talk about the fact that they were working with like

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01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 3: these masters, you.

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01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 1: Know, and getting an appreciation for that, like as they

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01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 1: were going, Yeah, to your point, like Robbie Coltrane when

1394
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 1: he says he's talking about that his kids and his

1395
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 1: grandchildren and the you know, their kids will you know,

1396
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,560
Speaker 1: he won't be around, but they're going to discover this

1397
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 1: story and Haggard will still be around.

1398
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 3: That yeah, when he says like nobody nobody will after

1399
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 3: a certain time, Nobody will remember Robbie Coltrane, but they'll

1400
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 3: remember Hagrid.

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01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 1: That reduced me to a huge Yeah.

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01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 3: Brutal, incredible, incredible. I really I loved it. I thought

1403
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 3: it was really great, and I also loved the nerd festival.

1404
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 3: That was the quiz show, the Hogwarts quiz show that

1405
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 3: Helen Marin hosted that I watched every episode of and

1406
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 3: cried during that as well because of all the adorable

1407
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 3: nerds who were so good at answering the question. I

1408
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 3: was like, this is incredible.

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01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 1: It really felt of a piece with my life too,

1410
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,759
Speaker 1: because every day my girlfriend and I play Harry Potter

1411
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 1: Trivia on the Alexa, and so the fact that this

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01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 1: show came around, it was like, oh my gosh, I've

1413
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 1: been waiting for this. It's really like kind of unfair too,

1414
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 1: because like it feels like every Harry Potter fan is

1415
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 1: like ready for Harry Potter Trivia in a way that is. Yeah,

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01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 1: that was super fun. This was super fun as well. Jason.

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01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 3: I enjoyed this. Thank you for having me on, Jason,

1418
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 3: what a delight it is. It is a treat to

1419
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 3: see you next time. I hope we can do it

1420
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 3: in person.

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01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:51,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be great. Up next to the airlock, folks

1422
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 1: were stepping out of the air lock into the wilderness

1423
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 1: of a beautiful British Columbia where literally no one lives

1424
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 1: in any near where any of the stuff is happening.

1425
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: We're here to talk about the Showtime series Yellow Jackets,

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01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 1: which is exploding into everyone's consciousness right now, which aired

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01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 1: it's season finale earlier this week. Rosie, this was such

1428
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 1: a fun show. I'm so excited to talk about. Let's

1429
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 1: quickly recap. The premise takes place in two timelines, right, So,

1430
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 1: back in nineteen ninety six, girls soccer team, high school

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01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:27,600
Speaker 1: soccer team, the Yellow Jackets. They're plane crashed on the

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01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 1: way to nationals in Canada, you know, in the forests

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01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 1: of Canada, and events took place there that are both

1434
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 1: that are both mysterious, not a lot of Basically, anybody

1435
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,719
Speaker 1: that wasn't there does not really know what happened there,

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01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 1: and the girls in the present day timeline of twenty

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01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 1: twenty one refuse to talk about it. There is a

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01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: kind of code of silence where they they are keeping

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01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: some kind of secret. They were there for nineteen months,

1440
01:18:56,160 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 1: and we follow the events both as they happen back

1441
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 1: in the past nineteen ninety six in the forest and

1442
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one as the now adult women with

1443
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 1: different things going on in their lives struggled to manage

1444
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: the effects of keeping this crazy, crazy secret. It's a

1445
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: really fun setup in which you get to have teenage

1446
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 1: versions and adult versions of the character. So you have

1447
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: Melanie Lynsky who plays adult Shauna and Sophie Lelie who

1448
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 1: plays teen Shauna. Tawny Cypress as adult Tysa and Jasmine

1449
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: Savoy Brown as teen Tysa, Juliette Lewis and Sophie Thatcher

1450
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 1: as adult and teenage Natalie, and then Christina Ricci and

1451
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 1: Samantha Hanratty as an adult of teenage Misty, the Great

1452
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: and Wonderful Misty. Let's talk about this show that has

1453
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 1: been so fun. It is a show that made me

1454
01:19:55,600 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 1: feel the kind of Game of Thrones feelings of no idea,

1455
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 1: what could happen in this episode. It had that kind

1456
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 1: of like Homeland Heroes kind of pace where man, they

1457
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 1: are just like going for it in this season. Clearly

1458
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 1: like this a feel of like, hey, if we don't

1459
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 1: get a season two, we're gonna make them remember us.

1460
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 1: And what are your thoughts on Yellowjackets?

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01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:21,719
Speaker 2: I loved it. I just thought it was so great

1462
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:23,679
Speaker 2: and it's really funny you brought up Game of Thrones

1463
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 2: because I was talking to Saul yesterday and I said, like,

1464
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 2: there's even though it's nothing like Game of Thrones content wise, right,

1465
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 2: it has that same feeling of a network cable, you know,

1466
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 2: broadcast kind of TV where the ends of these episodes

1467
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 2: have these cliffhangers where you just have to watch. It

1468
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 2: is not binge TV is not it's like you could

1469
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 2: binge it and you can now on showtime because the

1470
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 2: whole first season's out. But it has this this energy

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01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 2: to it that kind of like, you know, what I

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01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 2: really thought about was, you know, the episode of Game

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01:20:57,240 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 2: of Thrones where Jamie Lanister's hand gets cut off and

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01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 2: it sorry spoiler alert guys, and it ends with just

1475
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:09,679
Speaker 2: this black screen and no music in the credits. Most

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01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 2: episodes of Yellow Jackets ended with something like that.

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01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 4: Where I was just like, oh my god, I think

1478
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 4: it's this really interesting thing where there has been other

1479
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 4: shows so like last year there was this really great

1480
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 4: show on a Prime Video called The Wilds which was

1481
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 4: female Lord of the Flies, right, and it was much

1482
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:32,879
Speaker 4: more focused.

1483
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 2: It had a little bit of a genre twist and

1484
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 2: it's really good, but it's much more focused on the

1485
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 2: flashback aspects of like the big question there's like, is

1486
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 2: the horror of being a teenage girl in society worse

1487
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 2: than being on the island. Actually, yes, so the island's

1488
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 2: not that bad. What I think is really incredible about

1489
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 2: Yellow Jackets is it's it is a horror show. There

1490
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 2: is horrible things, there is scary things, but it has

1491
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 2: this huge crossover of non horror fans. There's something about

1492
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 2: the storytelling and the aspect of teenage girlhood and this

1493
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 2: and the truth behind the idea of you know, oh,

1494
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:14,799
Speaker 2: teenage girls, they're so they're so young, they're so you know, naive,

1495
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 2: they're so weak, and then this is just a real show.

1496
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 2: But actually they're brutal and violent, and there's this collaborative

1497
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 2: aspect to the way they approach the island that fits

1498
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,759
Speaker 2: into that idea of like how it might be different

1499
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:30,640
Speaker 2: for different genders to be on the island. But the

1500
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 2: collaboration is not a peaceful, calm, sweet one. It's a violent, brutal,

1501
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 2: feral one. And I think that's really speaking to people.

1502
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 1: You're right about that. I think the generational aspect too,

1503
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: the fact that we are exploring the nineties in a

1504
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 1: way that I think is like really unique, you know,

1505
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 1: like they're exploring the kind of like counter cultural like

1506
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: upheavals of the nineties and gender politics in a way

1507
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 1: that has twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two like as

1508
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 1: a and I think to your point, these kind of

1509
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 1: like conflicts seemed you know, maybe at the time as

1510
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 1: kind of you know, heated, but not it was hard

1511
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 1: to like keep track of like the actual skin in

1512
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: the game, whereas through the through the lens of this

1513
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 1: show you really realize like how important a lot of

1514
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 1: those conflicts are and how they influence these characters as

1515
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 1: they moved through their life. I also think to your

1516
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 1: point about like the I don't know what's going to

1517
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 1: happen next, It reminded me of like I had this

1518
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: conversation with David Escuare, showrunner Foundation, screenwriter of many comic

1519
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 1: book stuff, where he was saying, like one of the

1520
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 1: ways he approaches he approach Foundation and doing story for

1521
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 1: television was ian I have their outline and then they

1522
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: just like take some time to go, okay, whether or

1523
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: not we can make it work. What's the craziest thing

1524
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: that could happen now that we could like you know,

1525
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 1: just like anything blue sky like aliens like arrived, Like

1526
01:23:56,520 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 1: what is the craziest like image that we could come

1527
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 1: up with? And how would we connect that to the story.

1528
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 1: And a lot of this feels like that, like like

1529
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 1: there were so many like last five minutes of the episode,

1530
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:14,759
Speaker 1: like there's an image of a woman with no eyes,

1531
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, it just flashes and I'm

1532
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 1: just like, oh shit, what is this? Or when we

1533
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: see Taysa, like you know, there is a Lottie has

1534
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 1: an image that initially we're not sure if it's real.

1535
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 1: This is back in the woods where she is sleepwalking

1536
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 1: maybe or having a vision maybe as her kind of

1537
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 1: like mental health slowly dissolves, and she sees Tysa like

1538
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: eating dirt and we're not clear if that's real or

1539
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 1: if that's all locination or what. And then later on

1540
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 1: in the series we see adult Tysa eating dirt and

1541
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 1: it was just like so shocking where you're just like, wait,

1542
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 1: what's happening. But it really existed in this kind of

1543
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 1: like liminal space where it's unclear how much of it

1544
01:24:56,320 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 1: was like real and how much could possibly be supernatural,

1545
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: and it just hit. The finale had that moment too,

1546
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 1: where it was like, you know, we were seeing this

1547
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 1: symbol that was carved into trees in the woods back

1548
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 1: when they were trapped in the woods, and then it

1549
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: was seen other places and the characters have only kind

1550
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,600
Speaker 1: of like the gun to remark on this symbol and

1551
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 1: wonder what it means. And then the finale you get

1552
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 1: this like crazy moment where kidnappers arrive. The spoiler again like,

1553
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 1: if you have not watched the finale of Yellowjacks, please

1554
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 1: go watch it. This great, great, really fun show where

1555
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 1: kidnappers arrive in this very lost ish moment and they

1556
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 1: have the symbol, they have the symbol of pendance, and

1557
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 1: they kidnap characters and you're just like wait, holy like

1558
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: they kidnapped nowey and we're just like home.

1559
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. And you get that with like the jeweling

1560
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 2: moment of seeing like Taisa, who is in her adult

1561
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 2: life a I think she's like a sena and she's

1562
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 2: the underdog and she's had all this terrible stuff going on,

1563
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 2: so it seems like she's not going to get the

1564
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 2: role of state senator, which would make her I think

1565
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 2: it would be like New Jersey's first black state senator

1566
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 2: or something, or first black women's state center. And the

1567
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 2: thing that's really interesting about the contemporary nowadays part of

1568
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 2: Yellowjackets is obviously everyone in America is obsessed with them

1569
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 2: because this is a thing that happened. It's a true

1570
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 2: crime constitution exactly what has People magazine. So Taysa winning

1571
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 2: this seems very out of the blue, especially because she's

1572
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 2: having smear campaigns flown against her. So you see them

1573
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,799
Speaker 2: say that she won, and then you see her wife

1574
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 2: at the same time going underneath their house and finding

1575
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 2: a blood Oh my god, with the same symbol of

1576
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 2: the kidnappers, And then you see Taysa's face smile. And

1577
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 2: the funniest thing about it is what they used. They

1578
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:54,640
Speaker 2: do a really really good job he.

1579
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 1: Describe her what was going on.

1580
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 2: It's terrifying and like what I love that they do

1581
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 2: really well in this show that I think is another big,

1582
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 2: big factor of its success. And how well they use

1583
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 2: the dueling timelines is like they set you up to

1584
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 2: be surprised in the nineties by establishing character beats and

1585
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 2: things about the characters, like Taysa is the cynic ty

1586
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 2: does not believe she is a skeptic, and it all

1587
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 2: comes back to this the guy with the noayes who

1588
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 2: she saw when she was a kid with her grandma,

1589
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 2: and so her skepticism doesn't come from a place of

1590
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 2: thinking she knows better. It comes from a place of

1591
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 2: abject fear. She does not want to believe this stuff

1592
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 2: is real. She can convince herself there's a logical answer.

1593
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 2: So then when you get that final gut punch moment

1594
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 2: that Taysa is probably a part of whatever weird supernatural

1595
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 2: Shenanigans is going on, and did sell it, did buy

1596
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 2: into it. That is just like such a brutally good moment.

1597
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 2: And I think the other thing that people really love

1598
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 2: about this show, there's this brilliant article in The New

1599
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 2: Yorker called The Rival Shows of Yellowjackets, written by a

1600
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 2: woman called Andrea long Chew, and it is like so

1601
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 2: good because it basically just talks about how the reason

1602
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 2: the show is so good is because it's two shows.

1603
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 2: It's a survival horror show and then it's like a suburban,

1604
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 2: domestic thriller. And I think that's the thing that really

1605
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 2: pulls people in. If you don't want to see someone's

1606
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 2: leg getting chopped off with an axe, you can like

1607
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 2: close your eyes for one minute, and the next minute

1608
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 2: you're in this funny, dark comedy, surreal kind of midlife

1609
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 2: crisis suburban thriller where like I mean, also the other

1610
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 2: characters in this world, they're so good, like Shanna's husband, Jeff,

1611
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 2: who was a teen sweetheart of another one of the

1612
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 2: girls on the plane and ends up marrying Shaanna. You know,

1613
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 2: he has one of the best lines in the show,

1614
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 2: which has like absolutely really nothing to do with anything else.

1615
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 2: But he discovers this great secret that Shawna has, and

1616
01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 2: as she's been kind of going about has secret life,

1617
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 2: she's been telling them that she has book club, and

1618
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 2: he discovers the secret and she's like, I can't believe

1619
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 2: you thought I was going to book club all this time,

1620
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 2: and he goes, this is.

1621
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 1: So much book I describe it to a friend. There

1622
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 1: is a great like bottle episode late in the season,

1623
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 1: so this is Shawna's husband again, where you get a

1624
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: lot of time with them, and it is there are

1625
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 1: so many crazy twists and turns, and I describe it

1626
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 1: to a friend as if imagine if the Sopranos get like,

1627
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 1: already go a bottle episode. It's kind of like that,

1628
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 1: and you're absolutely right, like you you really delve into

1629
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 1: their relationships, which are I mean, there's I just kept

1630
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:44,560
Speaker 1: being my man like Shauna and Jeff, y'all need to communicate.

1631
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 1: Like the amount of miscommunications that have resulted in various crimes,

1632
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 1: including murder, are just like dumbfounded. Please, I beg you

1633
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:59,639
Speaker 1: go to couple's therapy and talk about so you stop

1634
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 1: getting the other thing that was like absolutely so funny

1635
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 1: and and like so after all of these various crimes unfold,

1636
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 1: but then they then they talk about stuff and they

1637
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 1: and you realize, you know, Shauna realizes that Jeff wasn't cheating.

1638
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 1: Jeff realizes that there's no book club, YadA YadA, YadA,

1639
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 1: murder has been committed, and a blackmail attempt has been

1640
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 1: committed by Jeff on Shawna's friends.

1641
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:33,440
Speaker 2: Uh, they're just which is like the absolute triggering, inciting

1642
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 2: conflict of the whole season. If he didn't blackmail them,

1643
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 2: none of this drama stuff would have happened in the

1644
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 2: modern day. But he just needs money to save this

1645
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 2: burn ature shop.

1646
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 1: Hious like non problem, this has gone down. They're just

1647
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 1: like hanging on on the couch now that it's all

1648
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:51,840
Speaker 1: out in the open, like this relief, this weight off

1649
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 1: their shoulders has happened, and they're just like hanging out

1650
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 1: watching TV. Like flirting, like the clock is back like

1651
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 1: ten years, like they read this remever the juice and

1652
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 1: the fire and the passion again and it is just

1653
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 1: so third and funny. I have to talk about what

1654
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:11,679
Speaker 1: I think is like the real If there's one character

1655
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 1: that I think is the star of this that is

1656
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 1: the unique character that I don't know if I've ever

1657
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 1: seen anybody like this before. It's Misty, played by Samantha

1658
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 1: Hanratty in the past name Christina Rici in the future.

1659
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 1: She is kind of like a misery type character, gets

1660
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: like maybe too attached sockery, but also like known quality,

1661
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 1: has like a Yes, she poisons people, but she does

1662
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:39,520
Speaker 1: it for good reasons.

1663
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 2: She The thing about Missy is like I read a

1664
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 2: great number with Christina Rici where she sort of basically said,

1665
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 2: like all Misty wants his to be except friends, but

1666
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 2: the girls are Yeah, but the girls are absolutely right

1667
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 2: to never truly bring her into the fold because there's

1668
01:31:57,520 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 2: something off about her. But then that just makes her

1669
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:02,640
Speaker 2: behay worse and worse. And when we first meet her

1670
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 2: in the pilot, she's kind of this.

1671
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 1: She's like the.

1672
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:08,719
Speaker 2: Assistant to the coach of the football team, and nobody

1673
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:11,599
Speaker 2: seems to really want her around. Definitely not the coach

1674
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 2: or his assistant coach Ben. But she's very passionate and

1675
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 2: everyone kind of ignores her, and she's a little bit

1676
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 2: like people should think she's frumpy or ever. But once

1677
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 2: she gets on the island, she is suddenly like this

1678
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 2: total badass who knows everything about survival. And because she

1679
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 2: is essentially a sociopath, she has no qualms in just

1680
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 2: chopping off people's legs if they need to be chopped off,

1681
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 2: and she.

1682
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,679
Speaker 1: And so that's I'm rescued because she destroyed the bus,

1683
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:45,520
Speaker 1: but exactly leg she knows how to do a shockingly

1684
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 1: good plastic surgery. She uh Man later on, like you know,

1685
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 1: she keeps Natalie from relapsing because she had placed a

1686
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 1: hidden camera in her apartment and knew that she was

1687
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 1: about to do cocaine, and so then Russia's over and

1688
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 1: keeps her from doing cocaine while snorting a little bit

1689
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 1: of the cocaine. She kidnaps Tis like a shady fixer

1690
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 1: character to keep them from being blackmailed slash get evidence

1691
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 1: taken from them by this person. Like she just does

1692
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 1: all kinds of shit that is clearly illegal, absolutely unjustifiable,

1693
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:31,799
Speaker 1: morally wrong. But they also really need the Yellow Jackets

1694
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:35,559
Speaker 1: need to be doing this stuff because they themselves are

1695
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:39,559
Speaker 1: so fucked up. Really interesting fun character.

1696
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, she is really I think they do a really

1697
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 2: good job by from the pilot to the audience. We

1698
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:52,600
Speaker 2: know that she is dangerous. We see how destroy the

1699
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:55,760
Speaker 2: Black Books, so that's the reason they never found, you know,

1700
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:58,719
Speaker 2: And I love that. It's a really good nineties reference.

1701
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 2: Does this, uh does this old teen horror movie called

1702
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 2: The Whole Yeah, and a bunch of other people and

1703
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 2: Kira Knightley and they and they go down to this

1704
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 2: like weird underground bunker for a party and then they

1705
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:13,640
Speaker 2: can't get out because the guy never turns up right.

1706
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 2: But the end of the movie you learn that the

1707
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 2: final girl, thora Birch, she had the key the whole time,

1708
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,640
Speaker 2: but wanted to stay there with them because suddenly she

1709
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:23,600
Speaker 2: had friends, you know. So I felt like that was

1710
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:26,720
Speaker 2: a really good, like Misty kind of horror reference. But

1711
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 2: the rest of the girls, they just know there's something off,

1712
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 2: but they don't really know what it is until you

1713
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 2: get to the final episode where it's revealed that you know,

1714
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 2: Misty like drunk the mall magic, which followings and they

1715
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 2: had like a sexy blood orgy, maybe more that she

1716
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 2: has poisonous people, like Coach at one point says, and

1717
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:54,640
Speaker 2: I think Misty poisoned me again, like miss again. She

1718
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 2: definitely poisons him the first time. And then and then

1719
01:34:57,520 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 2: he realizes what's going on and is a bit like

1720
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 2: she's a bit misery about him, so he pretends that

1721
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:04,759
Speaker 2: he like feels the same way about her, but won't

1722
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 2: do anything about it to survive. I was very impressed

1723
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 2: by Coach Ben. He's very clever.

1724
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, I get poisoned slash misery killed named by.

1725
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 2: Or like eaten, because that is the thing that we

1726
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:24,680
Speaker 2: haven't really talked about. So so Yellowjacket's Pilot begins with

1727
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 2: that a girl running through a forest, ending up in

1728
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 2: a pit, getting strung up and bled out, and and

1729
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 2: throughout you you go through and you kind of learn

1730
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,639
Speaker 2: about what happened in the nineties and the plane crash

1731
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,799
Speaker 2: and and you and throughout there showing you these strange

1732
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 2: montage of like these antler headed people eating what is

1733
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:50,880
Speaker 2: most likely human meat, and then at the end you

1734
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 2: get the reveal that that is the girls. At some point,

1735
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 2: because Misty takes off a mask. Right, So this is

1736
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 2: a show about cannibalism, and it is such a huge

1737
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 2: boo into this show that it is about cannibalism. And

1738
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 2: we haven't mentioned cannibalism once yet because everything else about

1739
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 2: the show is more interesting somehow. But the cannibalism adds

1740
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 2: this like very it adds to that like feral, animalistic,

1741
01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 2: survival kind of nature, and it really fits into the

1742
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 2: the way that they explore like women and horror in

1743
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 2: this show. And like the idea of like women is

1744
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 2: like these kind of animalistic, feral creatures, and this this

1745
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 2: paganistic idea of like how women can connect with nature

1746
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 2: or how young people can connect with nature. And it

1747
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 2: is extremely interesting. And if you were probably gonna, like

1748
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:40,680
Speaker 2: say the logline from the pilot, you'd be like, oh,

1749
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:42,640
Speaker 2: it's you've got to find out who the antler queen is.

1750
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 2: You got to find out who's the one wearing the thing,

1751
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 2: who everyone's sitting around eating this meat. But by the

1752
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 2: time the show's over, everyone's got their favorite thing. Is

1753
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 2: it Misty, is it Jeff? Is it the fact that

1754
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:54,720
Speaker 2: Sean is secretly maybe the craziest one of all and

1755
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 2: is like a very talented human butcher, Like, there's so

1756
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 2: much about this show to love that aspect of it.

1757
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 2: They have to bring you back in at the end

1758
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 2: with the crazy, the kidnapping and Tysi's blood alta, because

1759
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:08,880
Speaker 2: otherwise you're just like whoa, I just I care so

1760
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:12,639
Speaker 2: much about characters like who cares.

1761
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 1: If they like? I think some of this is pretty obvious.

1762
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 1: So Lottie is is schizophrenic and her medication is running out,

1763
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:28,840
Speaker 1: and as she is kind of like losing her grip,

1764
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:34,160
Speaker 1: she has made various predictions that you know, honestly are

1765
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 1: pretty random but have come true essentially or very easy

1766
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:41,600
Speaker 1: to see connections between the things she says and what

1767
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:45,920
Speaker 1: actually ends up happening. And I think as has already

1768
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 1: kind of happened, she develops like a cult of a

1769
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 1: prophet around her. Maybe there's more mushrooms that happen. Maybe

1770
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:57,479
Speaker 1: there's they eat something in the woods that that that

1771
01:37:57,640 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 1: affects them in a kind of like psychedelic manner that

1772
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:03,720
Speaker 1: kind of amplifies the effects of Lotti. But I think

1773
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 1: the basic thing is they come to view Lottie as

1774
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:13,680
Speaker 1: a profit and the kind of like you know, community

1775
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 1: hallucination effect that led them to almost commit a murder

1776
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 1: intensifies and they end up eating and probably cannibalizing people.

1777
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 1: Now I think Lottie. I think Lotti's alive and then

1778
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:27,760
Speaker 1: she stays there. I think she doesn't want to leave

1779
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:30,960
Speaker 1: the rest of them either. However, they're rescued, whether they

1780
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 1: hike out or people come to get them leave. But

1781
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:38,479
Speaker 1: I think Lottie staves, and I think like builds on

1782
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 1: this like cult, and these are the people that are

1783
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 1: then kidnapping the women because I guess maybe they want

1784
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,639
Speaker 1: them back or something like Lottie wants them back.

1785
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was wondering if she wants to rebuild the

1786
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 2: found family. And I also thought that something I think

1787
01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 2: something that's really interesting is like we don't really know

1788
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 2: apart from the main four Misty, Shana, Taysa, and Natalie. Yeah,

1789
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:06,280
Speaker 2: we don't know who survives or who is an adult

1790
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:08,720
Speaker 2: and who isn't. And I've seen some really interesting kind

1791
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 2: of stuff about like is it really Lotti who is

1792
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:14,600
Speaker 2: running the cult or is because because Lotti was the

1793
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:16,800
Speaker 2: one who was on the island who created the cult,

1794
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:21,880
Speaker 2: does like cult but use the name you know, things

1795
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:24,000
Speaker 2: like that, because I think I think people are really

1796
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 2: excited to potentially see the adult versions of these characters.

1797
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 2: So it's really interesting to see kind of who and

1798
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:33,599
Speaker 2: what will happen in the next season. And I think

1799
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:37,720
Speaker 2: there's so much interesting stuff because I think that the

1800
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 2: way that Lotty copes with the crash, she almost like

1801
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 2: subconsciously learns from Misty, which is this idea of like

1802
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 2: doing whatever it takes to survive and to create this space.

1803
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:55,479
Speaker 2: And in a way, Lotty is actually just the person

1804
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 2: who is best equipped to survive this absolutely wild, insane

1805
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:03,680
Speaker 2: set of because she manages to create a structure and

1806
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:06,439
Speaker 2: a space that embraces where they live that will allow

1807
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 2: them to survive. But it's also like horrific and violent

1808
01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 2: and cannibalistic and deranged and unhinged, but so is where

1809
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:16,760
Speaker 2: they are. So if they just sat there and tried to,

1810
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 2: you know, catch a fish or whatever, that they might

1811
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 2: not have been able to survive. And I find that

1812
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:26,040
Speaker 2: duality like really interesting, especially in the context of like

1813
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 2: the other thing that we haven't really spoken about is

1814
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:33,400
Speaker 2: there is a question of is the wilderness and nature

1815
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:37,879
Speaker 2: like a sentient creature in Yellow Jackets? Is it stopping

1816
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 2: them from leaving? Does it want them to be there?

1817
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:43,120
Speaker 2: And that adds a whole other thing, because it's very

1818
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:44,160
Speaker 2: much that is it real?

1819
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:44,560
Speaker 3: Is it not?

1820
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 2: Is that just how they think about it, and they're

1821
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 2: so desperate to make sense that they keep connecting these

1822
01:40:49,240 --> 01:40:51,679
Speaker 2: things together. That's always it real.

1823
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 1: There's another part of this, which is that you know

1824
01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:57,639
Speaker 1: the symbol was carved into the tree. When they arrived,

1825
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 1: they find a cabin like a hunter who his skeleton

1826
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:07,200
Speaker 1: is like in the upstairs attic. He's deceased. He was

1827
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:10,599
Speaker 1: not able to fly his plane out what was going

1828
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 1: on there before the girls came there? Was there something

1829
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 1: kind of like lost way that caused their plane to

1830
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:24,160
Speaker 1: crash at that spot. That is remains to be explored.

1831
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 1: Excited to see where that goes. Do you have any

1832
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:30,680
Speaker 1: particular theories about that or about anything here?

1833
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:35,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I definitely felt like this the symbol

1834
01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:38,880
Speaker 2: already being that feels like they crashed into someone else's territory,

1835
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:42,479
Speaker 2: and I think that's like the big, the big kind

1836
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 2: of like what's going to happen next? But yeah, I mean,

1837
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 2: I definitely think Tys is in the cult. I think

1838
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 2: that she did a blood sacrifice to win, and I

1839
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:52,920
Speaker 2: think that we could see some really interesting stuff about

1840
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:57,160
Speaker 2: someone in that cult being in a really powerful position

1841
01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 2: of state center and how that could affect Do you.

1842
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:03,760
Speaker 1: Think she's she's doing it or or is it part

1843
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:06,600
Speaker 1: of her? I think it's fractured consciousness.

1844
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 2: I think there's these two kind of sides of Taysa.

1845
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 2: There's like almost like the dark passenger kind of side

1846
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:17,520
Speaker 2: where it's like the person who's eating the dirt, who's sleepwalking.

1847
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:19,639
Speaker 2: But I think that the moment at the end when

1848
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:23,559
Speaker 2: she smiles, I feel like that's kind of a melding

1849
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:26,000
Speaker 2: of the two where tays is realizing like, oh, there's

1850
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:28,559
Speaker 2: this like bad part of me, like her son calls

1851
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:30,439
Speaker 2: her the woman in the tree, you know, the bad one.

1852
01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 2: There's how I can achieve where she is in control?

1853
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:40,720
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And I mean I really this is less

1854
01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:42,559
Speaker 2: of a theory, but I just like want to see

1855
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:46,120
Speaker 2: more Misty because she's just so absolutely bonkers, I guess

1856
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:48,639
Speaker 2: the biggest questions. So one thing I really want to see.

1857
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:51,080
Speaker 2: There is a thread throughout this season where Shanna is

1858
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:53,439
Speaker 2: having an affair with this younger guy and it seems

1859
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 2: like maybe he is the blackmailer and maybe he is Harvey,

1860
01:42:57,600 --> 01:42:59,599
Speaker 2: one of the three men who survived on the island,

1861
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,720
Speaker 2: who was a young boy, and he seemed to have

1862
01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:04,960
Speaker 2: a connection with Shaanna. That is not the case, That's

1863
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:06,880
Speaker 2: what the showrunners have said. He's not happy and at

1864
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:10,719
Speaker 2: the end kills them and very brutally.

1865
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 1: Then they're chopping him up, and then she ad missed

1866
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 1: They were just like chatting.

1867
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:22,400
Speaker 2: And Natalie's like, Natalie's like, oh yeah, She's like, did

1868
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 2: oh you remember how to do this? Like, yeah, you

1869
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:26,960
Speaker 2: didn't forget. So we know they've chopped up a human before.

1870
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:30,760
Speaker 2: Shauna is the butcher for sure, And I really want

1871
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:32,720
Speaker 2: to see where that thread goes, because I think that

1872
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:36,280
Speaker 2: is one of, like secretly the saddest and most brutal

1873
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 2: parts of this show is like Shawna's own paranoia and

1874
01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:45,599
Speaker 2: kind of trauma triggered by her husband blackmailing her friends,

1875
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:48,000
Speaker 2: caused her to kill this guy that she actually had

1876
01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 2: this really deep, like loving connection with. And I'm really

1877
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:53,800
Speaker 2: interested to see whether it's kind of a whether it

1878
01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 2: goes in a Justice for Adam type situation where he

1879
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:59,600
Speaker 2: really was just some simple dude that just happened to

1880
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 2: really like her, or if they're going to go in

1881
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 2: a route where he has like a more deep, kind

1882
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:07,920
Speaker 2: of darker connection because he had read the book about

1883
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:10,639
Speaker 2: the Yellow Jackets, and there was an aspect of maybe

1884
01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 2: he was like a creepy fan boy. So I really

1885
01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:16,639
Speaker 2: want to see that. I want to see Misty murders

1886
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:19,720
Speaker 2: some more people. I love that she she murdered Tysa's

1887
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 2: fix cigarettes with friends. If she's dead, okay. But what

1888
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:29,880
Speaker 2: I loved about that is it was very much in

1889
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:32,760
Speaker 2: the mold of Misty being She's like, I like to

1890
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:35,320
Speaker 2: protect my friends. And she told Jessica the fix that

1891
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 2: she said, don't smoke, it will kill you, and Jessica

1892
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:40,759
Speaker 2: was like, please just give me the cigarettes, and Jessica

1893
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 2: smokes the cigarette, passes out and we see a flashback

1894
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:45,160
Speaker 2: of Misty in jecting I'm like, if you listen to

1895
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 2: Misty and didn't smoke a cigarette.

1896
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:51,639
Speaker 1: Drink or smoke around Misty or Tapey or imvibe anything

1897
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:52,920
Speaker 1: that she has given you, I.

1898
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:57,760
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Misty theory quickly, and a question, do you

1899
01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 2: think Misty has been eating people? Because I do belie

1900
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:02,519
Speaker 2: that she the men that she brings home with her

1901
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:04,479
Speaker 2: when she goes on these bad days, all the old

1902
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 2: people from the home. I think she could be the

1903
01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:07,559
Speaker 2: one who still has a taste.

1904
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:11,519
Speaker 1: I think it's not that anybody is continuing to eat people,

1905
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 1: but I do think these blood sacrifices maybe be continuing

1906
01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:19,320
Speaker 1: outside of Taysa. There's a really great shot that is

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Speaker 1: so fun and it's the core for Seanna, Natalie, Missy,

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Speaker 1: Taysa at the reunion, the high school reunion, and they

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Speaker 1: all kind of they do a slow walk that felt

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Speaker 1: very much like a classic getting the team back together moment,

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Speaker 1: either in a heist movie or a superhero movie or whatever.

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Speaker 1: And I think that there is you know, obviously this

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Speaker 1: is my frame of mind and I'm primed to always

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Speaker 1: think like this, but it felt like a superhero team moment, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: the team is back. So I think you're much like

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Speaker 1: you were mentioning with Taysa and this dark part of

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Speaker 1: herself that like leveraging this power to win this it's

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Speaker 1: an election. I think we're going to discover that, like

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Speaker 1: there's a power in those four together. Something about what

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Speaker 1: they did on the island and what maybe they're continuing

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Speaker 1: to do outside of it is engaged when they are together.

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Speaker 1: And I think maybe Misty, like I would not be

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Speaker 1: shocked to discover that Misty was sending the postcards, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Like that.

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Speaker 1: Just get just to get them back, you know, like

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Speaker 1: in that in the beginning of that kind of like

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Speaker 1: slow motion walk, she sees them, the three of them,

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01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:31,640
Speaker 1: and is taking a picture with somebody else and immediately

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Speaker 1: leaves and rushes over to be part of the group.

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Speaker 1: I think that there is some kind of like power

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Speaker 1: on lock with the four of them that will be important,

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Speaker 1: and I'm really excited to see where that particular thing goes.

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Speaker 1: Any other final theories before we move.

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Speaker 2: On, I think the biggest one is probably Lotti or

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01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 2: whoever is posing as Loti, will be like a big

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Speaker 2: bad in season two, and that we'll have to see

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01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:59,240
Speaker 2: the three of them team up Misty, Shawanna tie to

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01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:02,679
Speaker 2: get that be back, and that will probably throw them

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Speaker 2: into that world of the Cult. And I'm assuming that

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Speaker 2: while we're learning more about the world of the Cult

1942
01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:10,560
Speaker 2: in the contemporary, we will learn about how it was

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Speaker 2: built in nineteen ninety six.

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Speaker 1: One other thing is that I think that as Lottie

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Speaker 1: becomes this like figurehead, I think that Misty kind of

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Speaker 1: becomes Misty who loves to be part of things and

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Speaker 1: loves being close to the powerful person I think Misty,

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Speaker 1: and this is hinted at in the opening scene of

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Speaker 1: the very first episode. I think Misty kind of becomes

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Speaker 1: like the right hand person of Lottie, kind of like

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Speaker 1: her manager, her connection to like what is actually going on,

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Speaker 1: and the person who like carries out the things that

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Speaker 1: Lottie wants. And then I think that leads to whatever

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Speaker 1: the split is that you know, like Misty obviously does

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Speaker 1: not remain so interested to see how that unfolds man

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Speaker 1: fun show Season two is going to be a lot.

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01:47:57,479 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are really watching it.

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Speaker 1: It was fun to people like find the show like

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Speaker 1: through social media. Can't wait to talk about it more

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Speaker 1: with you. Up next a nerd Out segment and this

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Speaker 1: week's nerd Out or recurrent segment where you tell us

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Speaker 1: what you love and why Ben Pitches is on supercent Time.

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Speaker 1: I also want to add that I finished Ellen Kushner's

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Speaker 1: Sword's Point. Thank you Megan for the wreck on nerd Out.

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Speaker 1: Really really fun and unique approach to fantasy. The way

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Speaker 1: I pitched it to somebody is it's like Bridgerton meets

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Speaker 1: Game of Thrones with no magic. You know, I don't

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01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:43,720
Speaker 1: know that I've really read a fantasy slash medievalist kind

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01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:47,479
Speaker 1: of story that's so delved into the importance of like

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01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:51,599
Speaker 1: courtly manners and the way people engage with each other

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01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 1: in these kind of like very public settings where the

1972
01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:58,800
Speaker 1: ritual of how you address someone and like how you

1973
01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:03,640
Speaker 1: eat really really matters for like the overarching politics of

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01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:06,160
Speaker 1: the world. Really really cool story. Read it if you

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01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:08,680
Speaker 1: have time. Ellen Kushner is a great writer. I really

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it. Okay, let's go to Ben.

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Speaker 4: Hello.

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Speaker 5: My name is Ben, and this is a nerd Out

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Speaker 5: submission about Super Sentai, the Japanese version of Power Rangers.

1980
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Speaker 5: I guess it could also include Power Rangers. Question one,

1981
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Speaker 5: How did I get into slash?

1982
01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:23,000
Speaker 2: Discover it?

1983
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:26,240
Speaker 5: When I was three years old, my friend Eric came

1984
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:27,920
Speaker 5: up to me and asked if I'd ever heard of

1985
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:30,760
Speaker 5: Power Rangers, and I've been hooked ever since. That was

1986
01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 5: about thirty years ago. I eventually got more into the

1987
01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:38,720
Speaker 5: Japanese stuff because I realized that the storylines and the

1988
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:41,840
Speaker 5: writing of the Power Rangers show is obviously kind of juvenile,

1989
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 5: but the gadgets and the robots and the costumes were

1990
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Speaker 5: the thing I was really in it for. Question two,

1991
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Speaker 5: why should everyone else get into it too? I mean,

1992
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Speaker 5: this series is nearly fifty years old. Supercent I started

1993
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:58,519
Speaker 5: in Japan in the seventies, and you have to believe

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Speaker 5: that it has staying power for I mean, for me,

1995
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Speaker 5: it is a masterclass in totally wacky creativity within a

1996
01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:10,520
Speaker 5: very specific set of constraints.

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Speaker 2: Like you can have almost any theme.

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Speaker 5: You want in a Super Sentai show ninjas, dinosaurs, trains, animals,

1999
01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 5: there's some spin offs the feature horror movie characters or

2000
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:29,080
Speaker 5: video games or fruit, but also at the same time,

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01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:31,600
Speaker 5: there's some elements you have to have. You have to

2002
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:35,559
Speaker 5: have robots, you have to have some kind of cool weapon,

2003
01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:38,519
Speaker 5: you have to have some kind of transformation device, like

2004
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:41,080
Speaker 5: how do you do that with Ninja stars versus how

2005
01:50:41,120 --> 01:50:42,120
Speaker 5: do you do that with Fruit?

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Speaker 3: Makes for in my.

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Speaker 5: Opinion, a fascinating kind of like creative exercise. So like

2008
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:53,320
Speaker 5: think of like a season where someone transforms using tuning

2009
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 5: forks and they use their weapons or musical instruments, or

2010
01:50:57,560 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 5: a Super Sentai series that had two teams of here,

2011
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 5: one that's like cops and one that's like like gentlemen thieves,

2012
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 5: like Loop in the Netflix show basically like Squaring off.

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Speaker 1: Against each other.

2014
01:51:10,439 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 5: It's wild, It's totally wild, and it's so much fun

2015
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 5: and so ridiculous. Three what's coming soon in this world

2016
01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:18,200
Speaker 5: that people can look forward to? There's a new season

2017
01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:20,639
Speaker 5: every single year, and every year is like totally different,

2018
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 5: totally ridiculous. The next season's airing in February. It's called

2019
01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 5: Avataro Scentai Don Brothers and which I have no idea

2020
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 5: what that means. And it's based on the Japanese legend

2021
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:36,679
Speaker 5: MoMA Taro peach Boy, so promises to be totally insane

2022
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 5: and totally wild, and I would love to share it

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01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:40,760
Speaker 5: with more people, and hope I get to share it

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Speaker 5: with x ray Vision.

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Speaker 2: So looking forward to hearing from you.

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Speaker 3: Happy New year.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Ben for submitting. If you want to be featured,

2028
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Speaker 1: send you nerd out pitch and voice memos to x

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Speaker 1: Ray at crooked dot com. Instructions in the show notes

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Speaker 1: up next to the Endgame. Hey, folks, were in the

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Speaker 1: Endgame now and today ROSI and I ponder how we

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Speaker 1: would fare in a yellow Jacket style wilderness religious cult

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Speaker 1: survival scenario. Here's the context. It is fall heading into

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01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:18,800
Speaker 1: winter cabin in the woods. There's nobody else around, you

2035
01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:23,559
Speaker 1: have a gun with weirdly unlimited AMMO. And as you're

2036
01:52:23,640 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 1: there with a few survivors, what is your plan, Rosie,

2037
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 1: you go first.

2038
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Speaker 2: I would probably die. That's just the real I'm gonna

2039
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:33,320
Speaker 2: start with a realistic aspect.

2040
01:52:33,439 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 1: I like that's how my girlfriend and a lot of

2041
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:37,320
Speaker 1: her friends are like, they're like just killing me. I don't.

2042
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:41,840
Speaker 2: I really like being cozy. I hate getting splinters. I

2043
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:47,360
Speaker 2: don't particularly like eating, you know, random animal meat. But

2044
01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:49,840
Speaker 2: I did go camping a lot when I was a kid.

2045
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:52,240
Speaker 2: I know how to like whittle things with a knife.

2046
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:54,479
Speaker 2: I think I can remember how to start a fire,

2047
01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:59,559
Speaker 2: So I think I would probably look for some kind

2048
01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 2: of shelter, because the cabin, I think is a really

2049
01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:05,120
Speaker 2: really small addition to yellow jackets, so you don't have

2050
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:07,200
Speaker 2: to live full lord of the flies. So I try

2051
01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:11,240
Speaker 2: and look for shelta hide and make friends with whoever

2052
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:12,240
Speaker 2: it was who had the gun.

2053
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Speaker 1: I honestly think I do great and an avid camper.

2054
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:22,800
Speaker 1: But more importantly, I've spent a lot of time, you know,

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Speaker 1: not recently, but when it came out, spent a lot

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Speaker 1: of time playing the Game in the Forest, a zombie

2057
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:32,240
Speaker 1: survival game in which you survive a plane crash and

2058
01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:35,280
Speaker 1: you land on an island, and it turns out that

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01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:41,200
Speaker 1: the island is populated by zombie like zombie tribalists who

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01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 1: like killed the other survivors of the plane crash and

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01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:47,880
Speaker 1: ate them. They also live underground in this kind of

2062
01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:53,320
Speaker 1: like descent like existence of like pseudo mutation, And basically

2063
01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:57,719
Speaker 1: you have to like chop down trees, create spears, build

2064
01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:01,120
Speaker 1: like log cabins, hunt for fish, dry the fish out

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01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:03,000
Speaker 1: so you can have stuff to eat, collect boring water.

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01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 1: You have to do all this survival stuff while surviving

2067
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 1: constant attacks by these like mutated zombies. And I gotta say,

2068
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm really good at that game.

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Speaker 2: So I think you have the guide, Like you you've practiced.

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01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:22,040
Speaker 1: I've practiced it, I've done it. I've survived multiple days

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01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:24,400
Speaker 1: all the way up until like you get attacked by

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01:54:24,439 --> 01:54:28,120
Speaker 1: this like super mutated worm that basically is unstoppable. So

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Speaker 1: I think I'd be okay at least for a few weeks.

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Speaker 1: How would you do? How would you do in a

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01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:37,480
Speaker 1: post apocalyptic scenario? Do you want to live? Do you

2076
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:39,320
Speaker 1: want to survive? Or do you are you just like

2077
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:43,120
Speaker 1: you know what? Life sucks? In a survival cannibal scenario.

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01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:46,240
Speaker 1: I want to check out and honestly, that's a fair

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01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:49,320
Speaker 1: that's a fair opinion. Let us know what you think.

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Speaker 1: Hit us with the hashtag xr V game give us

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Speaker 1: your thoughts. Big thank you to Jason Manzucas and Rosie

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Speaker 1: Knight for joining us on x st Revision. If you

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Speaker 1: want to learn more about the things we explored each episode,

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Speaker 1: check at our listeners guide them all things talk about

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Speaker 1: on the show in the show notes on our website.

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Speaker 1: Catch the next episode on January twenty eighth, and again,

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Speaker 1: by Chris Lord Soul Rubin. The show is executive produced

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