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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: It's Wednesday. The Steelers taking the practice field for the

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Speaker 1: first time this week. Yeah, how about that little spirited

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Speaker 1: practice that they had had the pads on today, had

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Speaker 1: Ray Ray McLeod playing the part of Lamar Jackson at times.

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Speaker 1: That's a good candidate for that throwing the football. He

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Speaker 1: was back today. By the way, he activated off the

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Speaker 1: COVID list, Joe Hag going on the COVID list instead.

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Speaker 1: So one comes off, one goes on. I didn't realize

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Speaker 1: the Hag thing. That's not great. Yeah, but well, um

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Speaker 1: and picking fund at the way the Steeler game win.

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Speaker 1: But I didn't put two and two together until very

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Speaker 1: late in the game. Who's the Steelers punt returner with

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Speaker 1: the cloud and it was sutting. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: so it wants to two chance? You got to okay, yeah, chances.

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Speaker 1: But I was like, Moka, I've kind of been asking

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Speaker 1: for that for a while. I liked how he'd returned

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Speaker 1: punts at college level, senior Bowl. Um, you know, you'd

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Speaker 1: either get the cloud back of course. Yeah. Um, Anthony

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Speaker 1: Miller has done a little bit of that in his

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Speaker 1: career too. Yeah, he's an interesting player in general. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't mind seeing a little bit more

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Speaker 1: of Anthony Miller down the stretch here. He's a legit

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Speaker 1: NFL wide receiver. Yeah. I don't know what his hiccups

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Speaker 1: were the last stop or two, but him and the

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Speaker 1: Bears didn't quite get a little something with the gink.

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Speaker 1: There was something with the coaching staff in Chicago, and

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Speaker 1: then you know for whatever I mean Houston. Yeah, there

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Speaker 1: they are just collecting guys. You're right, your was not right.

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Speaker 1: I really liked him coming out of school. I liked

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Speaker 1: him his first year or two in Chicago. And if

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Speaker 1: it comes at James Washington's expense, I'm not gonna have

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Speaker 1: a problem with that, you know. In terms of playing time, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree Washington has not stepped up and has that

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Speaker 1: He's seen a lot of snaps us here. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: the injury report for today, Pat Friarmouth with that concussion

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Speaker 1: was a full participant today. Again, that doesn't mean he's

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Speaker 1: been cleared of concussion through concussion protocol. That is a

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Speaker 1: big step and it's interesting full. Um. Usually that's a

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Speaker 1: limited Usually get that limited day, go out and run

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Speaker 1: around a little bit and see where you're at. But

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Speaker 1: he was listened as a full participant. Zach Banner with

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Speaker 1: an illness, did not practice today. Trade turner was given

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Speaker 1: in UH coach's decision for trade turner. UM. Christian Koon's

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Speaker 1: de long snapper has a hip. He was a full participant. UH.

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Speaker 1: Robert Splain with that knee did not practice today. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Nor did Joe Hayden with that foot. UM. We'll see

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Speaker 1: where that goes later in the week here, I think uh.

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Speaker 1: And then Chase Claypool was limited. Ben Roethlisberger getting his

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Speaker 1: Wednesday off as usual, but Clayton two notes. I want

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Speaker 1: to mention there of that group, is that was there

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Speaker 1: morember it. I mean, you don't need to listen to

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Speaker 1: us to be like, oh, Joe Hayden is important, or

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Speaker 1: watching last game, Joe Hayden is important. But a high

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Speaker 1: percentage of the time Markus Brown lines up to Lamar's

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Speaker 1: right and we know that's Hayden's area of the field.

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Speaker 1: UM over the fast first. Over the last four weeks,

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Speaker 1: Brown has been targeted it's Hunt. I mean double digit scalore,

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Speaker 1: you know, the last four weeks. And really, if you

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Speaker 1: look at Marquise Brown from about week ten of last

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Speaker 1: year until current, he's really had Pro Bowl type numbers,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean people look at him as he's

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Speaker 1: disappointing or he's Shawn Jackson. It gets two targets down field,

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Speaker 1: and if he hits on him, great, that's not what

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Speaker 1: they think of him. I mean, he gets a lot

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Speaker 1: of action and Hayden isn't going to run with them.

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Speaker 1: But Hayden's crafty enough that that that to me is

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Speaker 1: a big one for me. And then the other one

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Speaker 1: I was gonna throw out too was Friar Muth. Again,

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Speaker 1: you don't need to listen to us to know the

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Speaker 1: Friar most important. But one of the biggest weaknesses of

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Speaker 1: this Ravens defense is defending tight ends. You know, they

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Speaker 1: really they're one of the worst in the league. So

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Speaker 1: he would be huge for this one. And I mean, frankly,

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Speaker 1: he'd be a fantasy type starter guide in this game

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Speaker 1: if he plays. Yeah, um, just looking at what I

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Speaker 1: can find here from Baltimore's injury reporter, nothing official yet,

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Speaker 1: but John Harbot did say today that Calais Campbell remains

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Speaker 1: mean that's a big deal for them too. I mean again,

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Speaker 1: obviously that's a big one. It's still early. Um. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he sits out Wednesdays usually anyways, at

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Speaker 1: his age or not, or how they handle him, but

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Speaker 1: he's important for them. I mean, he's not the player

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Speaker 1: haven't played against them, I mean he's every bit of

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Speaker 1: six seven and I meant then and he's a strange

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Speaker 1: body type to go against. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know we heard we talked a lot a lot

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Speaker 1: yesterday about changes the Steelers could make in the lineup. Um,

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Speaker 1: and I think we've you know, got through most of

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Speaker 1: those in terms of changes that they could make. Philosophically. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you look at what they've done this year,

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Speaker 1: they're blitzing of the time. Yeah, we touched on this yesterday,

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Speaker 1: but it's really really it was at last year and

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Speaker 1: Week two, and then the Ravens in Week three. And

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Speaker 1: after those three weeks they were like six places really,

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Speaker 1: and then they kind of tapered down from there. I'm

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Speaker 1: just wondering. You know, when Mike Tomlin talks about philosophical changes,

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Speaker 1: like subtle things, well, that would be one subtle thing

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Speaker 1: that you know. Yeah, that's a good point, further reason

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Speaker 1: why you'd want Hayden back there. I Mean, my first

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Speaker 1: thought when I think of blitz is how well is

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Speaker 1: is big obviously. I mean it's been a week now,

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Speaker 1: of course, and that's the biggest thing to me. But

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I mean, I've been asked a ton

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Speaker 1: why aren't they blitzen more? And we brought this up yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's slot corner and off the ball

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Speaker 1: previous years. They've it's a luxury if you can get

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Speaker 1: home with four. But we saw Miami torture these guys

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Speaker 1: blitz at them, and I went back and watched some

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Speaker 1: of that tape today. Actually it's alarming. Yeah, they didn't

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Speaker 1: do it every time, but anytime they got into like

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Speaker 1: you know. And again it's a risky way to play.

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Speaker 1: It used to be, oh, don't blitz Lamar or don't

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Speaker 1: there's a book that's been written. But nobody played offense

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Speaker 1: taken a lot of trial and error from defenses to

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Speaker 1: see what works what doesn't. And we have the personnel

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Speaker 1: gotta be able to run. Again, those tackles aren't what

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Speaker 1: think what the Dolphins did was really intriguing. Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: you look at the hit, the numbers. Over the course

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Speaker 1: of the season, he's been blitzed a hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: one times overall on passing down Um, that's just passed.

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Speaker 1: That's just times that he's dropped drop backs. The Steelers

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Speaker 1: have blitzed ninety four times this season. Okay, they were

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Speaker 1: well over I think they were like four hundred last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so they have Steelers and Ravens always top of league

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Speaker 1: in sacks allowed. I think thirty six. The Bears have

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Speaker 1: one more. And he's a very mobile guy, right, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna run away from some But it's here the sack numbers.

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Speaker 1: It's not it's not like there's been one game where

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Speaker 1: he runs around like a lunatic like Michael vick us to,

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Speaker 1: but also because they have longer developing Marquis Brown routes.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're not just a call. Yeah, when you

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Speaker 1: force them to throw it short. Yeah, right, you want them,

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Speaker 1: If you look at I'm looking here pro Football reference

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Speaker 1: last month it's thirteen. I would say those are good numbers, right,

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Speaker 1: and some of those are throwaways. Screen doesn't work ten seven, ten,

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Speaker 1: weeks is seven. Wow. He has forty bad throws in

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Speaker 1: the last four games. It really shows up against the

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Speaker 1: get this out of my head. I mean, the woman

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Speaker 1: and he was distraught, you know, like didn't basically said,

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Speaker 1: so unhappy with myself and how I played, and I

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Speaker 1: know he's coming off a major illness. When he looked terrible. Really,

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Speaker 1: I mean when they showed pictures of him, but you

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Speaker 1: I mean it was really bad. If the if Steels

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Speaker 1: get that kind of version of Lamar, wow, I'll be

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Speaker 1: shocked if they do. But because he missed the previous

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Speaker 1: Cleveland game was the first since there was in between

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Speaker 1: there was he was out. So if you look at it, okay,

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Speaker 1: they put up thirty four points against Minnesota and Week nine,

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Speaker 1: but that was really you know, if you look back

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Speaker 1: the only blitched him ten times, Minnesota only blitzed him

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Speaker 1: third team times, Miami blitched him twenty six times. Oh,

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Speaker 1: they just did almost the Ravens had ten points in

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Speaker 1: But he's still a guy who's capable. Oh yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: a really good player. I mean everyone would love to

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Speaker 1: have him. I mean he's a really physical But is

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Speaker 1: he gonna lock down Deonte Johnson all day? If they're

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Speaker 1: one on one? Johnson is still gonna get his He's

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Speaker 1: still gonna get double digit targets and still the one

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Speaker 1: on one Bred is still a problem on the other side. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and if my chance he doesn't play, whoever it else is,

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Speaker 1: it is even worse as in their eyes. So no,

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Speaker 1: the Peter's injury hurts them, and the way they're built

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Speaker 1: makes it difficult for them to play the way they want.

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Speaker 1: On defense, yeah, they're still doing it and it's working

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Speaker 1: to a degreek I mean they're eating three. Yeah it is,

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Speaker 1: but I mean they've kind of but it's not the

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Speaker 1: same neither one of these defenses or what we've been

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Speaker 1: accustomed to this series. This is not your your your

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Speaker 1: father's raven Steelers game. I haven't seen the over under it,

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Speaker 1: but it seems like a sneaky over to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, not a bad call me. If you look

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Speaker 1: at their they lost to the they lost to the

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Speaker 1: Raiders and over Time in week one, beat the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: in week two. That was the fumble game, right Edward fumble,

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Speaker 1: And if you remember, the narrative at the time was, Wow,

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Speaker 1: they beat the Chiefs. Yeah the chief really, I'm not

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Speaker 1: that great great, Yeah, they really weren't. Then they beat

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Speaker 1: the Lines in nineteen seventeen on that sixty six yard

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Speaker 1: field goal nineteen seventeen. He doesn't make that they lose

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Speaker 1: the games. It's not like the game was tied, you know. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and then they beat the Broncos in Denver seven. Okay, great,

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Speaker 1: and they handled him an act. Yeah, and it was

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Speaker 1: Colts five. If you remember that game, culture up two

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Speaker 1: touchdowns in the fourth quarter. Yeah, that was another big

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Speaker 1: comeback another yeah, oh boy. Yeah, I want to say

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Speaker 1: Wentz did something dumb in that game. They beat the

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Speaker 1: Chargers thirty four six, and them, that's the best they've

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Speaker 1: looked a season. That matchup for him. Yeah, Chargers do

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Speaker 1: not want to play Baltimore in terms of run defense

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Speaker 1: and recognizing the way they run the football, and it

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Speaker 1: was here a tough place to play young quarterback, new

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Speaker 1: head coach. I mean, I'm not making excuses him. This

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Speaker 1: is how the thing works. You know. That's a bad

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Speaker 1: matchup for the Charter. Yeah. Then the Bengals smoked him.

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Speaker 1: That was every bit as bad as the Steeler game. Folks.

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Speaker 1: It was the Bengals beat both those teams, and that

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Speaker 1: was in Baltimore, in Baltimore, and that was not competitive.

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Speaker 1: It was not competitive, right, Yeah, similar to come to

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Speaker 1: think of it, Yeah, I mean the Bengals had five

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty total yards in that game. Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Then the Vikings they beat the Vikings one at home.

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Speaker 1: That was another one that was down to fire. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they were behind in that game. Um lost to the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins beat the Bears sixteen thirteen on a last minute

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Speaker 1: touchdown pass. They went. They fell behind the Bears in

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Speaker 1: that game late they gave up forty five yard touchdown

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Speaker 1: pass two uh to uh was it Mooney? No? The

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Speaker 1: other speedster odd one Marquis a good one yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: and then had to come back to beat him in

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Speaker 1: that one. And then the game against the Browns. I mean,

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Speaker 1: are they a good team? I don't know. I mean

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Speaker 1: you can say that's why they were qualifies as a

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Speaker 1: good team right now. We did power ranks yesterday and

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Speaker 1: they were eight or nine or ten or something like that,

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Speaker 1: which probably is deserving considering that who the organization is

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Speaker 1: and what their record is. But if you watched every

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Speaker 1: snap in a row, I've watched a bunch of Ravens

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Speaker 1: games this year, it's not been pretty. It's never like wow,

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Speaker 1: this is a dominant type of team. They've been dominant

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Yards allowed against the Raiders again,

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Speaker 1: I get it was over time five against the Colts,

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Speaker 1: uh five and twenty against the Bengals. I mean these

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Speaker 1: are not raven like numbers. No. Five, hundreds of numbers,

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Speaker 1: hundreds of big number number. Yeah, not to mention their

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Speaker 1: first or second the league in time of possession too, Right,

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Speaker 1: they're living up a chunks and they're you know, they

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Speaker 1: have the ball more than the opponent. That's up. How

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Speaker 1: many big players they have allowed defensively, there's got to

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Speaker 1: be a lot. It's a lot. It's game, and I

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Speaker 1: mean Marcus Peters gave up big plays. Part of it's

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Speaker 1: how their dru also take the ball away, right, and

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Speaker 1: that's one of the both these teams. If they could

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Speaker 1: ball away, if they could take the ball away more more,

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Speaker 1: one more, that's what they're built to do. The narrative

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Speaker 1: of both teams would be so much different, so much different. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's take a break. He is Matt Williams and I'm

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Speaker 1: Dale Lala. You're listening to the drive here on Steelers

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio. We come back. We'll be joined by our

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Speaker 1: special guest, Bob Labriola, Editor Steelers dot Steelers dot com.

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Speaker 1: Right after this, Steelers we are always talking black and

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