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Speaker 1: First before we get to our guests, Sarah Westwood, a

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Speaker 1: Back in Bill Clinton's first term in when the Republicans

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Speaker 1: and it was a pretty good, uh, political I'm wanna

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Speaker 1: what they would get out of having Republicans Control Congress. Well,

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Speaker 1: it looks like the current guy who would like to

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Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy, has put out a piece of paper of

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Speaker 1: investigative reporter of The Washington examiner. Uh, Sarah, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Armstrong Gutti show. How are you? I'm good. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for having me. I hope the little history lesson wasn't

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Speaker 1: too boring for you. Um, how how? What is Kevin

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Speaker 1: McCarthy calling his thing? This is called the commitment to America,

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Speaker 1: and you're right, it's sort of modeled after this contract

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Speaker 1: but we don't really have a clear sense of what

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Speaker 1: to give a sharper, clearer direction for voters as to

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Speaker 1: I think there's there's the potential for it to be

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Speaker 1: struggling to find that message to run on. Sure, you'd say,

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Speaker 1: Chicken every pot? What? What? What? What? What are some

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Speaker 1: But also he's waiting into some of the culture war

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Speaker 1: Is it now? I don't. I don't really see a

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Speaker 1: And come on, if you're gonna fight a flight attendant,

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Speaker 1: Sarah Westwood, thanks for joining us today. You always have

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Speaker 1: the information. Appreciate it. Thank you, BET