1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: My name is Robert Lamb and my name is Julie Douglas. 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: First of all, before I get going, I apologized my 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: voice sounds a little weird on this particular episode. I 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: recently had some oral surgery to get some losing teeth out, 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: so I found a little mealy. Now that's why, Julie 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: tell me this. Have you seen a little movie called 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: The Blob? Oh, my goodness, very long time ago. Yeah, 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: I had the classic black and white. No, I guess 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: it was in color the Virgin I saw his color 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: as anyway. Steve McQueen in an early role acting, yeah, 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: acting opposite a little ball of interstellar good that falls 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: to Earth. Inside of this meat cute little meteorite, an 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: old man pokes it with a stick, cracks up in 16 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: like an egg, and then he pokes it with a stick, 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: of course, because that's what you do when you encounter 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: potentially volatile substances from another world. We can't help ourselves. 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: We need to know. So it crawled down his arm 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: and starts eating it, and then it eats more and more, 21 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: and it just grows and grows into this colossal life 22 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: form that everyone has to deal with. And if you 23 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: haven't seen it, do check it out. Awesome the music 24 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: by Bob bat I believe, are you kidding? Buck Rat 25 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: did that? Yeah? Yeah, it's a nice little gem of 26 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: the turn. When you do that, I feel like I 27 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: need a martini. Yeah, it is definitely a Martini worthy 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: that of music. But the idea of this movie that 29 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: is central to what we're gonna talk about here, and 30 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: they're not central, but you know, we're kicking off with 31 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: the idea that life could come here sort of accidentally 32 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: from another world and then grow into something big. And 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: we have talked about this in roundabout ways. We talked 34 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: about what happens when a star dies, right, and we 35 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: talked about star dust all this stuff that rejects into 36 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: the universe and how those are the building box. But 37 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: what remains is this question of how exactly here on 38 00:01:54,880 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: Earth did these chemicals become complex organisms. So we're gonna 39 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: talk a little bit today about this. And there's a 40 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: great article by Andrew Grant and I believe it's called 41 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: Cosmic Blueprint for Life that details some of what we're 42 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: going to talk about today. So let's fast forward back 43 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: to the star way before we even get to the 44 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: blob days and the old man Uh losing his arm 45 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: to space Shelley distantly both in time and space. A 46 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: star dies, Okay, it runs out of its nuclear fuel 47 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: and it becomes unstable. All right, there's no longer enough 48 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: fuel to keep up this colossal creation that is a star. 49 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: It's this enormous engine, and if it doesn't have fuel 50 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: to burn, it becomes unstable and it collapses or it explodes. 51 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: This is where we get things like black holes, but 52 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: it's also where we get supernovous So in this case, 53 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: the star explodes, and when it does, it expels a 54 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: shell of stearing hot atoms. This includes things like hydrogen, carbon, oxygen, 55 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: and some of those rogue atoms float into nearby gas 56 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: clouds and they stick to the fine grains of dust there. 57 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: Now it's very cold here, we're talking negative degrees fahrenheit, 58 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: and there this process called acretion begins to take place. 59 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: I think we've discussed this before, and we definitely discuss 60 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: it in one of our Stuff to Blay your Kid's 61 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: Mind episodes we did. We talk about gravity and how 62 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: it stirs things to lie. So you have these particles, 63 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: they float around, They float around and onto each other, 64 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: and it's like a snowball rolling down a mountain. Two 65 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: particles come together to form a slightly bigger particle, and 66 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: then they pull in other particles. Their mass is growing, 67 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: their gravitational pull is growing, and eventually we end up 68 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: with a very young star that is being born out 69 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: of this ejected material. So the simple items of hydrogen, carbon, 70 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: and oxygen become complex organic molecules, and it's these carbon 71 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: bearing compounds that become the raw material for life, and 72 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: planets eventually actually form from these materials. We say all 73 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: of this because again we're trying to get to well, 74 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: how exactly then did life on Earth here occur? Because 75 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: we understand how the planets formed, but us sitting here 76 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: as crazy complex beings that came from these rudimentary, single 77 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: bacterial cells. How did this happen? So this brings us 78 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: to a little concept called panspermia, which is ja, yeah, 79 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: in a nutshell, we're talking about the blob scenario, the 80 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: idea that life could travel to another planet in the 81 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: form of say, a meteorite. So we can thank Fred 82 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: Hoyle for this. He was a British cosmologist, and he 83 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: actually wrote in nine fifty seven science fiction novel called 84 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 1: The Black Cloud Right which actually informed his ideas on spermia. 85 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: The novel which I haven't read, but it's a great 86 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: example of great scientific minds are very much have science 87 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: fiction on their minds, and it dealt with intelligent dust 88 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: clouds in space. He ends up forming this idea of 89 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: pan spermia. Starting in the nineteen sixties, he writes a 90 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: series of academic papers describing how bacterial cells could make 91 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: their way from interstellar dust grains to comets and eventually 92 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: down to planet spike Earth. Okay, so it's the sixties. 93 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: People think he's nuts because nobody thought that pre bike 94 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: molecules or microbes could survive in the harsh vacuum of space. 95 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: You know, it was assumed that space was too cold 96 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: and too low density for any sort of molecule to form. 97 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: But now we know that's not the case. We know 98 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: that it's possible. For instance, the nine two pound meteorite 99 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: hurtled to the ground in Australia and they did some 100 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: analysis on it, and they found that the rock containing 101 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: millions of organic compounds, including amino acids a nucleo basis, 102 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: which we'll talk about in a little while. I don't 103 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: want to jump the gun there, but that's really exciting information. 104 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: And similar meteorites like the one that crashed landed on 105 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: Australia and comments would have blanketed the Earth with organic 106 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: chemicals from the time the Earth was born about four 107 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: point five billion years ago until the era when life 108 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: appeared a few hundred million years later. Okay, So for 109 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: everybody listening out there, the idea again is that this 110 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: material is hitching a ride on a comet or a meeting. 111 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: All right, crash landing on Earth and boom, we start 112 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: to get a proliferation of life. But there is another theory, 113 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: and that talks about how life could organically just or 114 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: spontaneously I suppose you could say, happen here on Earth. 115 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: And for this we need to turn to Stanley Miller 116 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: and Herald Urray. That's right. These are researchers who prepared 117 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: a closed system of glass flasks and tubes and injected 118 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: a gaseous mixture of methane, ammonia, hydrogen, water. And now 119 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: these are four basic compounds that were thought to be 120 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: abundant in Earth's primitive atmosphere, and then they applied an 121 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: electric current to simulate a lightning strike that would have 122 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: occurred on Earth in those primitive days as well, and 123 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: lo and behold, within a week they have produced several 124 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: prebiotic compounds which then produced amino acids. So this is 125 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: the same concept that we discussed in our Stuff of 126 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: Your Kid's Mind episode. We're talking about this early ancient ocean. 127 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: And then you have volcanic activity which is stirring electrical 128 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: activity in the atmosphere, lightning strike, life begins to bubble, right, 129 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: and there's like a little pool of water around that volcano, right, 130 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: frankenste scenario exactly exactly, which I love. So here's the 131 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: great thing. It produces amino acids and these are fundamental 132 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: units of proteins, really important, right if you want to 133 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: create some life. But it did not produce nucleo bases, 134 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: which we talked about being present on that comet in Australia. 135 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: These are the molecular building box of DNA and RNA. 136 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: This is the stuff that gets passed on the genetic 137 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:32,679 Speaker 1: information to help propagate life. Also, the researchers simulating early 138 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: atmosphere with gases containing hydrogen. They used hydrogen, which reacts 139 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: easily as opposed to carbon dioxide, a gas that's far 140 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: less reactive but was probably much more plentiful at the time. 141 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: So people kind of said, I'm not sure, this is 142 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: a really interesting experiment, but it doesn't quite stimulate the 143 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: actual conditions of Earth, what we think what was going 144 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: on in primitive Earth at that time. So we end 145 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: up looking outward again for potential signs how life ends 146 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: up coming to be. In this case, let's look to 147 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: astronomer Loose Snyder. Now, Snyder knew that the chemical compounds 148 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: are die polar. They have a positively charged side and 149 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: they have a negatively charged side, and these charged particles 150 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: in motion release energy. So he theorized that some of 151 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: these would spin like batons and create a faint radio 152 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: wave signal, and that this would be perceivable from Earth 153 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: with the right equipment. This is such a cool idea 154 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: that someone seized on. This I think is just amazing 155 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: because this is a way to actually measure your model right. 156 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: And you also, I believe, said that each type of 157 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: molecule should have its own unique energy signature, broadcasting a 158 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,599 Speaker 1: specific set of frequencies that could be detected and identified 159 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: by astronomers. So within a few years they identified dozens 160 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: of these things. They discovered interstellar formaldehyde in ninety nine, 161 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: and since that point astronomers have identified more than one 162 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: and fifty molecules in deep space, mostly by using radio telescopes, 163 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: and this is interesting to space. Chemicals that were found 164 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: just the past few years include the sweet which is 165 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: a sugar glycoli hide which I just fluttered but to 166 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: get the idea, the fragrant which is ethel formate which 167 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: smells like rum, and the explosive fulminic acid. Use some 168 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: debtonators and weirdly enough gold flagger. I don't know how 169 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: that worked out there, right, do you where? Okay? So 170 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: this is just really interesting that they figured out these 171 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: energy signatures and they were able to pinpoint all of 172 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,599 Speaker 1: these different molecules. The whole field of astrochemistry kind of 173 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: rises from this, right. And so then there's another astronomer. 174 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: His name is Jay Mayo Greenberg of the University of 175 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: Leiden in the Netherlands, and he found that there weren't 176 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: just free floating gas molecules in space as they had 177 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: observed in the nebula. The reason why we're talking about 178 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: this too, is because we're trying to get to this 179 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: idea of where again are these compounds beginning and how 180 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: are they getting to the Earth. So if you look 181 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: at the nebula and you say, well, here are these 182 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: chemicals that some of which can create the building block 183 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: here on Earth, how is that actually happening? What sort 184 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: of interplay? It's one thing they have to figure out 185 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: how they hits the ride here, but where did they 186 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: come from to begin with? Right, So you're thinking about 187 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: these floating gas molecules in space, and then he begins 188 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: to ponder the dust and the nebulas, as well as 189 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: the microscopic grains of carbon and silicon, and then he says, 190 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: what would happen if interstellar gas molecules like from Aldehad 191 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: collided with frigid grains of dust. They'd freeze their instantly, 192 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: he decided, and they'd create another kind of environment which 193 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: there would be chemical reactions. Again, these chemical reactions are 194 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: really important, okay, because this is what's happening. This is 195 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: that Frankenstein moment to a certain degree that's creating life. 196 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: And he's thinking about the starlight also interacting with this, 197 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: and he begins to think infrared telescopes could help us 198 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: with this, and he was thinking, Okay, let's point them 199 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: at some dust clouds, and he actually finds dips at 200 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: specific frequencies corresponding to molecules including methanol, ammonia, and water ice. 201 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: So what we need here is an experiment, right, what 202 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: we need here is a in a box. And I'm 203 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: surprised we didn't do this one for stuff to blow 204 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: your kid's mind. It sounds so easy. He turns to 205 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: a man by the name of Lewis Alamandalo. He is 206 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: a Berkeley PhD Graduate in low temperature chemistry, so perfect 207 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: person to turn into this. And Almondalo recreates the kinds 208 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: of reactions that might take place and with these microscopic 209 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: icy grains, and this Zali does it. First of all, 210 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: he gets the equipment together to chill a shoebox sized 211 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: chamber in a near vacuum, so he pressurizes it to 212 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 1: within several degrees of absolute zero, so vacuumized as cold 213 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: as possible. Then he uses a plasma lamp to fire 214 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: beams of ultra violent light into that chamber, and this 215 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: is supposed to mimic the radiation that's present in a 216 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: planet or star forming region of a dust cloud. And 217 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: then he adds a gases mixture of simple molecules to 218 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: mimic the same composition that you would see in those 219 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: interstellar clouds. Then he sets back and he watches the 220 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: magic happen, or the science as it were. That's right. 221 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: What does reveal is that not only that some chemicals 222 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: reactions really do occur, it's extremely low temperatures because again 223 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: remember back to the nineteen sixties people five, it's way 224 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: too cold for anything really to be happening. So he 225 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: plays out this idea that yes, actually chemical reactions can 226 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: occur at extremely light temperatures minus fo degrees fahrenheit, but 227 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: also that these reactions produce other reactive chemicals, thereby providing 228 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: the spark really important for molecular hookups here. So this 229 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: nebula in the box experiment has been done over and 230 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: over again and recently has yielded intricate molecular rings containing carbon, nitrogen, 231 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: and hydrogen fatty acid like molecules that's so cool that 232 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: look and behave like the membranes protecting living cells and 233 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: nucleic acids or nucleotides. The primary components of RNA in DNA. 234 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: So again we're getting back to this idea of chicken 235 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: and egg, although in this case it's more like, is 236 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: that the nebula is that the comet? Or did it 237 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: happen here on Earth? Could these reactions be happening in 238 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: these interstellar us clouds and these very chilling environments, right, 239 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: and being ejected out in the form of a comet 240 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: in landing here on Earth sort of kind of ready made, 241 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: you know, sort of like your microwave meal ready for 242 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: Earth out of the box. In a way, this kind 243 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: of drives with the blob because at the end of 244 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: the blob they learned that they can't quite actually kill 245 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: the blob, but what they can do is that they 246 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,599 Speaker 1: can freeze it with I think they were using fire extinguishers, 247 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: which was weird. No, surely not, that wouldn't make scientific sense. 248 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: But at any rate, they chill this thing down. They 249 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: strapped to a helicopter and they take it to the 250 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: North Pole. But he does not kill it. It just 251 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: preserves it. So even here we see the idea that 252 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: the life interstellar life would be able to sustain very 253 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: low temperatures. Well, and there's an Emory University astro chemist 254 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: by the name of Susannah Witticus Weaver, and she threw 255 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: a series of models and experiments has demonstrated that ultra 256 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: violet radiation can break chemical bonds and split molecules into 257 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: highly reactive fragments called radicals. And this is important because 258 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: again in this nebula, you're seeing the possibility that these 259 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: more complex chemical reactions can be happening. And there's a 260 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: possibility that again, is that this is the spark of 261 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: life happening. All right, we're gonna take a quick break 262 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna get back to all this. So 263 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: hanging there one second and we're back. The realmifications here 264 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: are not all just either far off in time or 265 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: far off in space. For instance, we can look at 266 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: the moon Titan, one of the Saturn's moons, and here 267 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: we see the based on some of the research, we 268 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: definitely see the potential for these organic compounds. Is this 269 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: the one that has the atmosphere that is similar to 270 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: the Earth, but it's like in slow mo Yeah, it 271 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: has a thick methane tinged atmosphere and it's reminiscent in 272 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: early from early Earth atmosphere and it has pools of 273 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: hydrocarbons on its surface, the only known bodies of liquid 274 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: on any other world than our own. So astrobiologists and 275 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: astro chemists have been very interested in Titan for some 276 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: time now. Yeah, because the idea again is that this 277 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: is a snapshot of what the Earth may have looked 278 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: like billions of years ago, and that we can begin 279 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: to observe, although slow mo, these reactions, and this is 280 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: what they're trying to get at. They want to know 281 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: what's going on four billion years ago. That's why they're 282 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: creating a nebulent a box, and they want to know 283 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: where did this material come from. We know that some 284 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: meteorites contain a menial acids in nucleo bases, But the 285 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: idea is did they get scooped up those molecules from 286 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: dust clouds and then created them later on their interplanetary course, 287 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: or were they again ready made out of the box 288 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: as soon as they landed here, Which leads to this question, 289 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: how common could life in the university. That's what we 290 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: really want to get to, right, Yeah, that's the big question. 291 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: It's life. Is it just a sort of a one 292 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: in a billion fluke? Is there a higher potential for 293 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: life on other worlds as we continue to expand out 294 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: into the galaxy, are we going to be surprised or 295 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: are we going to be disappointed by the presence of life? Well, 296 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: and Andrew Grant says that if meteorites create most of 297 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: the direct chemical precursors of life are still or system 298 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: might be an unusual case if we're dependent on the 299 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: meteorites for really creating the chemical reactions. Right, but but 300 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: but but if dust clouds can manufacture these molecules on 301 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: their own, and we know these dust clouds are all 302 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: over the place in space, right, then life should be 303 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: prevalent throughout the universe. I mean that kind of racks 304 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: my world right there. Yeah, who knows how complex life 305 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: we're talking about the world like Titan. Things are going 306 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: to develop at a much slower pace on a world 307 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: like that, And certainly not every world is going to 308 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: have the Goldilocks type conditions that would be present for 309 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: life to develop. And then too cold, too hot just 310 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: right where also you have to factory in issues of 311 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: electromagnetic shielding, how long a window are you looking at 312 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: for life to develop without a catastrophic impact event occurring? Right? So, 313 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: assuming that your planet had a nice position with a son, right, 314 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the Earth, but a planet, and 315 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: you had everything sort of in place. The idea is 316 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: that any one of these dust clouds out there could 317 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: give you the material to create life on one of 318 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: those planets, if it has the correct conditions to support it. 319 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: We come from a carbon based bias, so that's a 320 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: whole other issue. Okay, So we should know more about this, 321 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: I would say probably within the next decade. There's the 322 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: Atacama Large Millimeter sub Millimeter Array that's short ALMA in Chile, 323 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: and that's a network of sixties six radio dishes that 324 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: will provide unprecedented resolution and sensitivity when it becomes fully 325 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: operational later this year. There are two space based infrared observatories. 326 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: There's the European Space Agencies Herschel Space Observatory and NASA's 327 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: James Webb Telescope scheduled to launch in So that should 328 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: allow astronomers a better way to peer into these nebula 329 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: and try to figure out what's going on. Yeah, especially 330 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: the gold Schlager nebula. Very interested. You want that you 331 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: have that little smile in your face on newcent was 332 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: coming up there but these radicals that we were discovered, 333 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: just to see how those little dudes are actually acting 334 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: out the ability to like take a much closer look 335 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: at this and get closer to this answer about how 336 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: life came to be here on earth. Pretty cool. Yeah, 337 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: mind blowing stuff to be sure. All right, Well, let's 338 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: call over the robot and see what kind of listener 339 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: mail we have for today. Here's one from Andy Andy 340 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: Writson and says, Hi, Robert and Julie, and he's responding 341 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: to our Lucid Dreaming episode, which we've received a ton 342 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: of comments from. And he says, I wanted to tell 343 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: you that the night after I listened to the episode 344 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: about Lucid Dreaming, I did, in fact Lucid dream It 345 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: was a fantastic moment for me, since I've always been 346 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: utterly fascinated by Lucid dreaming, but it never seriously attempted 347 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: any technique. In the dream, I realized I was dreaming 348 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: and had to concentrate to not wake up. I told 349 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: my friend in the dream that this was a dream, 350 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: and then demonstrated by making a little red ball appear 351 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: and disappear in my hand. I don't remember what happened afterwards, 352 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: but it was still a fantastic feeling. I'm gonna credit 353 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: you guys for that, so thanks all the best. Andy, Well, 354 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: that is awesome. I still have not lucid dreamed my 355 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: knowledge that I can remain member, and it didn't occur 356 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: after we did the podcast either. So the idea that 357 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: we could cover this topic and maybe grease the wheels 358 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: a little for someone else to experience lucid dreaming, I 359 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: think that's awesome. Yeah, we have gotten so many cool 360 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: Lucid dreaming emails, a lot of them having to deal 361 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: with flying and how to control I mean for someone 362 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: who lucid dreams like myself. I've just been like wow 363 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: that there's so many different issues that are being brought 364 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: up that we'd probably do separate podcasts on I don't 365 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: know that people would want exclusively a podcast about flying 366 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: and lucid dreams, but it's it's pretty fascinating stuff. And 367 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: then here's another one from Debbie. Debbie writes them about 368 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: lucid dreaming and she says, Hi, Robert Knejulye, first off, 369 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: I love your podcast. Being a psych undergrad, I really 370 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: get a kick out of all the brain related podcasts. 371 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: So Thanks for being so entertaining. Second, I just listened 372 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: to Lucid Dreaming podcasts and that was great. It brought 373 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: up a question that I've never really thought of before. 374 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: While researchers are still pretty up in the air to 375 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: the exact purpose of dreaming, there has been some pretty 376 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: interesting studies that suggests that it may be a way 377 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: to consolidate our daily activities and help to either build 378 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: memories both somatic and century, and or to deal with 379 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: emotional distress strain. We discussed this in a in an episode. 380 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: I just wondered if all these lucid dreaming advocates who 381 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: want us to stop wasting our dream time by using 382 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: it for virtual reality entertainment could lead to us losing 383 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: something that we need and use to help our memories consolidate. 384 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,479 Speaker 1: Just an idea that popped into my head while listening. 385 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: It made me think of the scene from Donnie Darko 386 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: where Donnie and Gretchen present the glasses that show a 387 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: baby beautiful pictures when they sleep so they aren't exposed 388 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: to darkness, to which the teacher asked them if they 389 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: don't think the darkness is there for a reason. Thanks 390 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: again for the total brain trip. Of a podcast, keep 391 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 1: up the great work, guys, and Debby, by the way, 392 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: is one of our many Australian listeners, so that's pretty awesome. 393 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: And finally a little bit of listener mail related to 394 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: one of the episodes we did about toilets and uh, 395 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: toilets of the future. Yeah, toilets of the future, I believe, 396 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: and we were able to participate in a mystery here, 397 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: so him who's also from Australia, another one of our 398 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: awesome Australian listeners, Wrightson and says, Dear Robert and Julie, 399 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: I just finished listening to your podcast about toilets, and 400 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: i'd like to thank you both for answering a toilet 401 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: related mystery that I have been carrying around with me 402 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: for fifteen years. I used to work at a place 403 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: where a half a dozen males shared one bathroom cubicle, 404 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: always a tough situation. There was one particular work colleague 405 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: that would leave behind shoeprints on the toilet seat and 406 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 1: I could never work out whine. My theory at the 407 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: time was that he was smoking in the cubicle and 408 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: standing on the seat to surreptitiously blow the smoke out 409 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: of an air evant. However, I was never satisfied with 410 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: this theory, as the prince consistently faced away from the 411 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: cistern in the opposite direction of the air pant. Having 412 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: listened to your podcast and remembering my colleague was Vietnamese, 413 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: it now occurred to me that he was probably squatting 414 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: on the top of the bowl. Mental case closed, Tim Australia. 415 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: I love that. That's great that we helped solve a mystery, 416 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: and also I do love the idea of squat toileting. 417 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: I think we yeah, yeah, I don't know that we 418 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: did a whole punk us on that, but you talked 419 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: about how in the West we're pretty much doing it wrong. Yeah, 420 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of innovation going into toilets. We 421 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: kind of got to a certain point. We have this 422 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: elaborate throne that we sit on that makes no sense 423 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: from an evolutionary standpoint, and we're like, it works good enough. 424 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: We'll tinker with water management later on. But for the 425 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: most part, this is good. But in many other cultures 426 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: they're still very much in a squat based system where 427 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: they're they're squatting and you know, if your boys are 428 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: pushing it on your gut, which is supposedly giving you 429 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: more support. There's less straining, and they think medical problems 430 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: that result from the way we sit on the phone 431 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: in the West because there is straining. So yeah, it 432 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: makes more sense to do the squat squad and that's 433 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: why you see some very very low billets in many 434 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: Eastern countries. There are also some seats that we I 435 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: think we discussed in this podcast where it's like a 436 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,959 Speaker 1: Western South toilet seat, but with optional foot rests. Right, 437 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: you can get a platform. This I think is so great. 438 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: Didn't you say you tried to introduce this to I 439 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: really like. 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