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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. It's

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Speaker 2: hour two.

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Speaker 1: It is a Monday. I think this is going to

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Speaker 1: be our best hour. It's live, it's Chicago, It's the Herd.

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Speaker 1: Wherever you may be, and however you may be watching

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Speaker 1: or listening, we always appreciate you making part of your

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Speaker 1: day with us. Jamack, it was the craziest day I

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Speaker 1: can remember if there was some really, I mean Green Bay,

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Speaker 1: Cleveland was about as ugly as football gats.

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Speaker 2: It was a rock fight.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, Arizona Tampa Jets was a blowout. Then it

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Speaker 1: wasn't There is so much to talk about. Matt Hasselbeck's

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Speaker 1: about four minutes out. It was not a great day

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Speaker 1: for are one of us with our picks. I think

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Speaker 1: we both have the ravens tonight we do.

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Speaker 3: I need to hear little more positivity for Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 3: You know how there's the Magnificent seven Stocks, right, the

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Speaker 3: tech Stocks. There needs to be a super six for

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks because I think Herbert and Hurts have played their

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Speaker 3: way in.

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Speaker 2: Colin, come on, they've been.

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Speaker 1: Spectacular on maybe Baker Mayfield. Oh yeah, So on a Monday,

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Speaker 1: Colin right, Colin wrong?

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Speaker 2: And here we go. Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, world's best football coach. Three to zero, pulling

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Speaker 1: away in the AFC West. The Chargers run a short week.

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Speaker 1: They fumbled the opening kickoff, they lost Nausee Harris Khalil

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Speaker 1: Max not playing. But Harbaugh has in his career found

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Speaker 1: ways to win uglyue games. And you got to give

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Speaker 1: this team credit. Quentin Johnson look like a bust at

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. Harbaugh's like, Nope, we're gonna feed him the ball.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna throw it to him half a dozen times deep.

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Speaker 1: And the Chargers win a game because they have the

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Speaker 1: greatest football coach of all time.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: The Packers led ten to nothing in the fourth and

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Speaker 1: still lost to Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: They were my number one team in the league.

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Speaker 1: What was weird is they had extra time to prep

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Speaker 1: still disjointed. Jordan Love got hit hard too many times.

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Speaker 1: They just they didn't have a lot of energy. They

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Speaker 1: Love didn't have a lot of time. They didn't get

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Speaker 1: Where Colin was right, I've said this about Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 1: I predicted the Niners would have a lot of injuries,

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Speaker 1: and I've said before Kyle is the great quarterback whisperer.

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones is not only two and zero. They're asking

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Speaker 1: him to throw as much as Justin Herbert. The dude

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Speaker 1: You didn't say what you want about Kyle Shanahan hasn't

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Speaker 1: won the big game. Shanahan with quarterbacks the league had

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Speaker 1: Credit to Shanahan. Where Colin was raw. I have defended CJ.

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Speaker 2: I keep defending him, and I am wrong where Colin

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Speaker 1: McCarthy looked overwhelmed. Carson Wentz has one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: where Colin was raw. I gave up on Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: He is dealing with baby now. He's got a good

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Speaker 1: This is not thinking dunk. Danny Dollars was six to nine,

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Speaker 1: He's not fooled anybody. He's making big boy NFL throws.

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Speaker 2: And I'm wrong where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: Jaden Mayov a USC is anybody paying attention nine tds,

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: Coming out of Ohio State, I thought Marvin Harrison was

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was Row.

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Speaker 1: Cain klubnick Ken Clemson quarterback? What happened? And Clemson's got

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Speaker 2: I mean, I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: It's total regression, lower completion percentage, more interceptions, fewer yards

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Speaker 1: wrongs this week. I got to own them. I had

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Speaker 1: a lot of wrongs yesterday. And with that, Matt Hasselbeck

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Speaker 1: stops by eighteen years in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Man, I was wrong, a lot wrong.

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Speaker 4: I like when you admit when you were wrong. It's

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Speaker 4: just I love the humility.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I don't have it often, but boy, I'm

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Speaker 1: bringing my fastball today, I will say that us listen.

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Speaker 1: I know it's the Mersy, the Dallas defense, but here's

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Speaker 4: It's both, but it was clearly Yeah, rhythm, timing, accuracy.

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Speaker 4: No sacks is huge, Yeah, good pass protection. This was

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Speaker 4: easily Caleb Williams's best game as a pro.

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Speaker 5: Easily. It was fun to watch.

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Speaker 4: If you're a Bears fan, You're like, oh, shoot, this

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Speaker 5: Ben Johnson, I mean he is.

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Speaker 4: Like you see why he was so good in this

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Speaker 5: I think there is something nice about.

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Speaker 4: Game planning people that you actually know, like you know

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Speaker 5: You know what they're never going to change where they're

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Speaker 4: But I just thought it was credible, you know, and

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Speaker 5: He did a really nice job. But guy really wasn't

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Speaker 5: a lot of contested touchdowns, Like guys were wide open.

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Speaker 4: Like I don't have like a next gen stats kind

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Speaker 5: Like if you're Dallas, you're.

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Speaker 4: Feeling pretty good last week and now you're kind of like,

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Speaker 6: Like this is?

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Speaker 5: This is embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: I want to know, though, do players look at it

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Speaker 1: Is it self belief in that locker room? Or is

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Speaker 1: there a sense Dallas is bad? Like were you ever

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Speaker 1: You beat a really bad team, how does that usually

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Speaker 5: That's two things.

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Speaker 4: Number one, never apologize for a win. Never Like we

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Speaker 4: would just be like, never apologize. I don't care how

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Speaker 4: on a Sunday. But now here's the thing. Win or

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Speaker 4: lose that game plan, that celebration, all of that that

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Speaker 4: like it never happened. You know, maybe there's a feel

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Speaker 4: good feeling. I think the hard thing after a win

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Speaker 4: is you've got to correct the things that need to

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Speaker 4: the playoffs. I think Harbaugh has the vision for what

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Speaker 5: Everyone's buying in.

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Speaker 4: And I think that, you know, protecting him a little

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Speaker 1: So Philadelphia trails twenty six to seven, they have minus

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the biggest things you do at halftime

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Speaker 4: But I think the other thing that can happen is

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Speaker 5: We got to give him opportunities. That's what I saw.

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Speaker 4: And you know, we've seen kind of devo receivers like

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, that's not the vision. Here's the vision.

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Speaker 4: I want to be a downhill play action team. I

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Speaker 4: And here's how it fits with our offense and our

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Speaker 5: Yesterday was like you said it was, it was big

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Speaker 4: But you know, really, when you look at the pass

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Speaker 5: You know, injuries are a thing, age is a thing.

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Speaker 4: They just might not get to play it at Arrowhead,

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Speaker 1: They play a little loose, like Jay Kuller was like

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Speaker 1: always to me, like big time talent.

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Speaker 2: She was gonna throw bad picks.

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers did that, and Josh Allen has literally eliminated

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Speaker 1: like his flaw. And I don't know who to give

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Speaker 1: credit for, but the fact that his last twelve games

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Speaker 1: he's got thirty touchdowns and one pick. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen anything like that. Well, what do you

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Speaker 1: make of it? He's incredible.

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Speaker 4: I mean every single year, at the end of the year,

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Speaker 4: you could point to this is the thing that he's

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Speaker 4: improved on. I think he deserves a lot of credit,

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Speaker 4: but I think the coaches as well, Like he was

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Speaker 4: reckless with his body and reckless with the.

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Speaker 5: Ball at the beginning of his career.

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Speaker 4: Then he became just reckless with his body and less

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Speaker 4: reckless with the ball. Now, I don't think he's reckless

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Speaker 4: at all, hardly, And I think what they've done is

456
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Speaker 4: they've said, Okay, you want to be crazy, you know,

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Speaker 4: with your scrambles and all this kind of stuff, Let's

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Speaker 4: do some design quarterback runs. Let's run you know, like

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Speaker 4: we're faking it to the running back but you're actually

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Speaker 4: reading it. And then let's run counter pulling the guard,

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Speaker 4: pulling the tackle, and it's quarterback run game. It's a

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Speaker 4: lot of college run game, but it's almost like they're saying, hey,

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Speaker 4: you get your six, seven, eight yards and get down

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Speaker 4: or at least.

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Speaker 5: Like as a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: I know this from from personal experience, when you know

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Speaker 4: the hits coming, it's not nearly as bad. It's it's

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Speaker 4: when you don't know that it's coming that that's kind

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Speaker 4: of where injuries can happen. So I think there's like

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Speaker 4: a little bit more design, in a little bit more

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Speaker 4: structure to him as as sort of like being reckless

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Speaker 4: quote unquote, like it's almost like the illusion of reckless,

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Speaker 4: but it's really within the play design.

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Speaker 5: And I just think he's been he's been awesome.

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Speaker 4: Teammates love him, the stadium loves him, you know all

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Speaker 4: those things.

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Speaker 5: I think the opponent fears him. I think it's really

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Speaker 5: cool to see.

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Speaker 4: You know, he is definitely on the mount, Rushmore on

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Speaker 4: the podium. Whatever you want to say. With the top

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks in the game right now.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff as always, Matt Hasselbeck, my friend, thanks on

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Speaker 1: a Monday for stopping by Seekin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a It was the nuttiest day all week.

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Speaker 1: Jmack kept telling me Atlanta looks tasty, and I said,

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Speaker 1: J Mack, I can show you receipts of thirty years

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Speaker 1: betting the Falcons. But there were some genuine surprises. I mean,

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Speaker 1: green Bay with extra prep to lose at Cleveland is

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Speaker 1: a job dropper, and in the Bucks almost squandering leagues

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Speaker 1: at home with Baker. I mean, now we had one

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Speaker 1: major upset, we almost had four other ones major Colin.

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Speaker 3: Let me give you the list of quarterbacks who threw

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Speaker 3: for under two hundred yards yesterday. Matthew Stafford, Jordan Love,

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson, Kyler, Murray bo Nix, Aaron Rodgers, Bryce Young

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Speaker 3: threw for one hundred and twenty one yards and one

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Speaker 3: thirty to nothing yesterday was crazy. Nothing's making sense. How

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Speaker 3: is Stafford held to two hundred yards? I don't really understand.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting is I mean, they came, they had a

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Speaker 1: chance to seal that game.

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Speaker 2: Pooka dropped the touchdown.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't easy, no, no, no, not easy, but he

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Speaker 1: dropped that and then you think, okay, we'll get a

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Speaker 1: field goal and it got blocked.

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Speaker 2: And that was the game.

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Speaker 1: Like, if you're on the road against Philadelphia, you got

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Speaker 1: to make one of those two. You either got to

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Speaker 1: make the field goal or you got to catch the touchdown.

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Speaker 1: And when they miss both, I was like, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: you cannot do that against Philadelphia because Philadelphia in the

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Speaker 1: second half, I mean you saw it. They just decided

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Speaker 1: we're going to go to AJ Brown and the Rams

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Speaker 1: don't have the personnel to stop that.

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Speaker 3: So do you still trade AJ Brown if you're the

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Speaker 3: Eagles or do you just hold on to them.

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Speaker 2: Let's move here.

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Speaker 1: I pulled that take over to a rest area. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna get a dunkin Donuts.

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Speaker 2: We'll wait a little bit on that. That's good.

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Speaker 1: Well, no quarterback in the last two decades for the

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Speaker 1: Chargers has been hit as many times as Justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: got hit against the Denver Broncos. The obviously they've got

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Speaker 1: some offensive line injuries. The Broncos are a great front

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Speaker 1: and Justin Herbert, one of the most likable, humble guys,

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Speaker 1: has given us ten minutes today, which I totally appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: And he knows that he's joining us live. So Harball

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Speaker 1: said yesterday, Jim is funny. He's like, you know, Justin

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Speaker 1: gets hit, he never shows that, he never wins his

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Speaker 1: yet he's just.

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Speaker 2: Like a superpower.

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Speaker 1: And I thought, driving in today, I thought, do you

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Speaker 1: ever get hit Sunday.

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Speaker 2: And it really hurts?

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Speaker 1: I mean it really hurts, but you know you have to.

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Speaker 2: Go back into the huddle and you can't show that.

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Speaker 1: Are you ever in some pain and you're just masking

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Speaker 1: it and not letting your teammates know?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well for some thanks for having me. I always

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Speaker 9: always look forward to being on the show, And that

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Speaker 9: is a good question. There were a couple of times

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Speaker 9: in the game where I was maybe a little slow

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Speaker 9: to get up got back to the hubble, and you know,

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Speaker 9: I might have called the play a little slower for

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Speaker 9: the guys, and so they might have recognized that.

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Speaker 6: But as long as coach Harbaugh thinks that.

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Speaker 1: Then you know, that's that's great for me, justin when

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Speaker 1: you get hit. And again, all quarterbacks get hit. Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson last night got sacked seven times. It's the reality

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Speaker 1: of the NFL. There's great athletes up front. How do

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Speaker 1: you not hear footsteps? How does it not affect you

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Speaker 1: later in a game?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really tough thing.

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Speaker 9: And I think that's part of playing quarterback, of understanding

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Speaker 9: that you know you're going to get hit and the

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Speaker 9: defenses that you're going up against here are really.

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Speaker 6: Fast and athletic, and you just got.

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Speaker 9: To have enough time to get the ball off and

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Speaker 9: understanding that those split seconds of you know, if I

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Speaker 9: stand in the pod for you know, just a half

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Speaker 9: second more, I can get the ball off and we

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Speaker 9: can have a big play. It makes it all worth it.

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Speaker 9: And obviously we do a great job taking care of

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Speaker 9: our bodies. And you know, we've got a training staffs

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Speaker 9: I get to none.

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Speaker 6: So knowing that you feel comfortable going out there.

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Speaker 1: So the first time Jim Harbaugh came up to you

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Speaker 1: pregame and it started banging on your shoulder pads, I

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Speaker 1: mean that's what he does now, and I actually think

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Speaker 1: there it works. It kind of like it startles you

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Speaker 1: you're getting the good Jim. I thought Jim was a

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Speaker 1: little crazy, and then he came to the Chargers and

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Speaker 1: he's like likable Jim and funny Jim.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's all you know, right, you only know

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Speaker 2: that Jim.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's that's all we know. We just know the

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Speaker 9: most authentic competitor. You know, he cares so much about

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Speaker 9: the team, about winning, about football, and he'd do anything

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Speaker 9: for us.

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Speaker 6: And you know when I first got.

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Speaker 9: On the sideline and he was hitting my pads and

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Speaker 9: things like that, I just thought it was awesome. He

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Speaker 9: kind of explained the story about you know, getting that

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Speaker 9: first hit, and you know.

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Speaker 6: As soon as you get that first hit, you're ready

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Speaker 6: to go.

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Speaker 9: And so he felt like, if you could do that

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Speaker 9: before the game, then there's no time wasted.

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Speaker 1: Quentin Johnson worried me. He had drops. It looked like

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Speaker 1: he almost lacked confidence. Well that's over. You guys have

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Speaker 1: been aggressive. He is the downfield weapon. Can you take

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Speaker 1: me a little bit into the off season of taken

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Speaker 1: a guy that had talent wasn't quite there yet whatever

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Speaker 1: you guys did. But it feels like he's turned a corner.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, accused. Hecqu's done such a great job. And I

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Speaker 9: think one of the really special things about him is

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Speaker 9: he had a great year last year. It was it

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Speaker 9: was kind of a quieter great year, and I think

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Speaker 9: he had eight touchdowns and caught a whole bunch of yards.

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Speaker 9: And you know, he came back this year and he's

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Speaker 9: just continued to work. He's continuing to get better, and

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Speaker 9: he's having fun. He's playing confidently, and he's making a.

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Speaker 6: Bunch of plays. There was a play that you know.

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Speaker 9: He went up and caught a fifty to fifty ball

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Speaker 9: on Sunday and obviously it was an irresponsible throw by me.

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Speaker 9: But to have a guy like that to go up

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Speaker 9: and get it and you know, kind of save me

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Speaker 9: was was really cool to see.

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Speaker 1: What do you do when you get hit fourteen times?

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Speaker 1: Give me a take me behind the curtain. What is

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Speaker 1: your Monday rehab?

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Speaker 10: Like?

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Speaker 2: What did you do? Don't tell me?

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Speaker 1: You just go get a frappuccino and just sit in

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Speaker 1: the couch. What is Monday rehab? Like?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I actually get in the pool and I move

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Speaker 6: around in the pool.

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Speaker 9: You know, I think it's easier on my joints, and

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Speaker 9: whether it's swimming running, it's good to just get movement.

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Speaker 6: I do a lot of icing on my shoulder.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 6: I think I threw the ball a bunch, and you know,

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Speaker 6: it was kind of the game that we knew was

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Speaker 6: going to happen.

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Speaker 9: We know how good their front seven was, and you know,

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Speaker 9: watching the film of the quarterbacks the week before, they

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Speaker 9: had to move a bunch and they had to throw

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Speaker 9: on the run, and that's just kind of what you

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Speaker 9: had to do against the Broncos.

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Speaker 6: And you know, obviously we do a good job.

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Speaker 9: We've got all the facilities here at our team facility,

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Speaker 9: so it makes my job so much easier.

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Speaker 1: So you had thirty six pass attempts. That's what you're

661
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Speaker 1: kind of doing on a weekly basis. It was told

662
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Speaker 1: sort of twenty nine last year. How does that change

663
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Speaker 1: prep for you. Now you may say, oh, it's only

664
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Speaker 1: seven pass attempts, but you got some offensive line injuries.

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Speaker 1: So is your mindset change a little bit justin from

666
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Speaker 1: last year, like, hey, I'm going to get up near

667
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Speaker 1: the forties here like like that? Do you are you

668
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Speaker 1: a little more? Are there certain throws now you'll like

669
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Speaker 1: hold it back and think, hey, I got forty pass attempts,

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Speaker 1: it's the first quarter. Does it change anything for you psychologically?

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Speaker 6: Not so much.

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Speaker 9: I think the thing that we do recognize is, you know,

673
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Speaker 9: they're multiple ways the winning football game, and whether that's

674
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Speaker 9: throwing it forty times or whether we're going to run

675
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Speaker 9: the ball.

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Speaker 6: Forty times, you got to put the team in a position.

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Speaker 9: To win and understanding that the defense that we have

678
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Speaker 9: that they're going to force a bunch of stobs.

679
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Speaker 6: And turnovers, and you just gotta be smart with the ball.

680
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Speaker 9: And I think as long as we're limiting turnovers, scoring

681
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Speaker 9: in the red zone, and converting on third downs, which

682
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Speaker 9: I think we've done a pretty good job of the

683
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Speaker 9: past couple of weeks, you know, I'm happy to throw

684
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Speaker 9: the ball as much as.

685
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Speaker 1: I can explain to me how Keenan Allen multiple surgeries

686
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Speaker 1: He's not a four to three to eight guy anymore

687
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Speaker 1: a four to four guy. How does Keenan Allen get

688
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: open on every third down his entire career?

689
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Speaker 2: Explain it to me, Gee.

690
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Speaker 9: Just the way he works, routes, his understanding of defenses

691
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 9: and leverage. I don't know how he does it. He

692
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Speaker 9: came a few weeks ago, maybe three four weeks ago

693
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Speaker 9: and picked up the offense like he'd been running his

694
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Speaker 9: entire life. And I've never really seen anything like that.

695
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Speaker 9: And that's how you can tell, you know, he's a

696
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Speaker 9: true pro. He's one of the best to ever do it.

697
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Speaker 9: And you know, he's just so smart. He understands how

698
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Speaker 9: defenses are trying to play him and where to go.

699
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Speaker 9: And it's basically like having another quarterback out there.

700
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Speaker 1: Yeah here, relationship with him. All young quarterbacks need somebody

701
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Speaker 1: they can trust. He's your trust guy. Do you guys

702
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Speaker 1: have like an unscripted language eye contact, like on that

703
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: big play this weekend? Did you know what was going

704
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Speaker 1: to him? Did you sense it was?

705
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Speaker 9: I think that's where we're just so lucky to have him,

706
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Speaker 9: you know, especially when I came into the league to

707
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Speaker 9: have him and Mike Williams We're two guys that kind

708
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 9: of just showed me the way and just we're true

709
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 9: receivers and sometimes you're taken for granted. But that play, No,

710
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Speaker 9: I break out of the pocket, and I know that

711
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Speaker 9: he's the first to react.

712
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Speaker 6: He sees what I'm doing and takes off.

713
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Speaker 9: And you know, as long as you're the first to

714
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Speaker 9: react and you've got a shot to make something happen downfield,

715
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Speaker 9: and even if it is a fifty fifty ball, Kean

716
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Speaker 9: down you know, he's he's a huge body, he's he's

717
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Speaker 9: so talented and athletic. I know he's gonna go fight

718
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Speaker 9: for that ball. And didn't see the actual catch, but

719
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Speaker 9: watching it on the replay was pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Oregon's at Penn State this weekend. It's

722
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Speaker 1: gonna be the biggest game of the college football weekend.

723
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Speaker 1: How can you do you have time to ever watch

724
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Speaker 1: those games?

725
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Speaker 6: Yeah? I always make time to watch Oregon.

726
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 9: You know, growing up a Duck fan playing there, you know,

727
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 9: it's been so fun to watch them play, and you know,

728
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Speaker 9: I think that's kind of the cool thing about going

729
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Speaker 9: to the Big ten and playing all these these fun teams.

730
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Speaker 6: As you're gonna go to the.

731
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Speaker 9: East Coast and you're gonna have some big games, and

732
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Speaker 9: you know, not always was that the case in the

733
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Speaker 9: Pac twelve And you know, I know the Ducks are

734
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Speaker 9: really excited, and and you know Eugene is loving it too,

735
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Speaker 9: So it's really cool to see.

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Speaker 1: So our graphics department thought they were very funny yes day,

737
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: because I said, you and Harbaugh's as good as Reid

738
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Speaker 1: and Mahomes. It's just a perfect If Jim could go

739
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Speaker 1: to a lab and build a quarterback, and I swear

740
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Speaker 1: to God, he would build you humble, coachable, hard work

741
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Speaker 1: and tough. You were, Jim. You just have a better

742
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Speaker 1: arm than Jim had. And so our graphic department thought

743
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Speaker 1: it was very funny, and they made up all these

744
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: Simon and Garfunkle and yo, you guys. They just thought

745
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: that was the funniest thing in the world. What else

746
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: do we have? Mario and Luigi I think was on that. Yeah,

747
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: there we go. When you look at Horrorball. If somebody

748
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Speaker 1: never met Jim and you said, hey, Colin, come on

749
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Speaker 1: over to my place, I want to introduce you to

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Speaker 1: my head coach, Jim Harbaugh, would you warn me? What

751
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Speaker 1: would you say about Jim Harra as somebody that got

752
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Speaker 1: Batman and Robin. What would just say to me if

753
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Speaker 1: I'd never met Jim Harball, how would you explain him?

754
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Speaker 9: I would say, this guy loves football. I've never met

755
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 9: anyone that loves football more than he does. He thinks

756
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 9: about football when he wakes up, and thinks about football

757
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 9: when he goes to bed, and he wants to win.

758
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Speaker 9: And I think the coolest thing about it him is

759
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 9: he's a competitor. If we have any games going on,

760
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 9: he's going to try and beat you. Whether we're playing

761
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,479
Speaker 9: ping pong, whether we're you know, playing cornhole, it doesn't matter.

762
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Speaker 6: He's going to do everything he can to win. And

763
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 6: he's going to find you, know your weaknesses.

764
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Speaker 9: He's going to watch film on you, he's gonna ask questions,

765
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Speaker 9: and he loves the game.

766
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Speaker 1: So it's really cool to see fifteen seconds. Has he

767
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: ever been mad at you?

768
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Speaker 6: There are definitely been times where he's mad at me.

769
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Speaker 9: Whether I'm throwing the ball downfield irresponsibly, laid over the middle,

770
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 9: you know, he tells me to just check the ball down,

771
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 9: you know, go to the next play and be smart

772
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 9: with the ball. But there are definitely times where we're

773
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Speaker 9: talking about practice in the game for sure.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, it's great seeing you. You look fantastic. You're

775
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: crushing it. Try to stay upright between you and Lamar.

776
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: I don't like my star quarterbacks getting hit like that.

777
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Speaker 1: Congratulate all your success.

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Speaker 6: I'll do my best. Thanks again for having me.

779
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 1: All right, Justin Herbert, one of the truly great guys.

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Speaker 1: I've said this before. We are lucky that all the

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Speaker 1: star quarterbacks in this league, its going to be Lamar,

782
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: can be Mahomes, it's Herbert, it's Jalen Hurts. How lucky

783
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: are we? They're all good dudes. They're all I mean

784
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: to be that young, good looking, rich and that good

785
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: of a dude. We're lucky, all of us. Heard Hierarchy

786
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: Nick Wright. He's not gonna like the hurd higher arch

787
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: to get contentious.

788
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Speaker 7: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

789
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 7: at noon Eastern a em Pacific.

790
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: Here we go, it is our number two and a Tuesday.

791
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: Heard Hierarchy, Nick Wright, Greg Olsen. Next hour, Justin Herbert's thought,

792
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: Why what good Kitty is? Just outstanding? Good College football

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00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: Weekend j Mac Very good College Football week at the

794
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: Oregon Penn State game. That is big boy football, right there? Man,

795
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: a lot of good games.

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Speaker 3: I mean if Alabama loses, like, where do they go

797
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 3: from here?

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00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: You know they got a tough game.

799
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Speaker 11: There's a lot.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Saturday is really loaded humps.

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Speaker 2: All right.

802
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: I've had a dilemma last couple of weeks. What do

803
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: I do with the Kansas City Chiefs? So last week

804
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: I had them at number ten?

805
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: Where do I have them? Now Here? We go heard hierarchy.

806
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: Now go the top ten NFL teams according to college

807
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: number ten.

808
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Baltimore at ten the Chiefs despite a

809
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: winner eleven. Why because Baltimore's a road favorite. Baltimore is

810
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: the better offensive team, and like the NBA, the NFL

811
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 1: is an offensive league. First, they're scoring thirty seven a game.

812
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: The problem is their defense is basically the Dallas Cowboys

813
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: without the.

814
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: Star and the helmet.

815
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Speaker 1: They got bullied for three and a half hours, and

816
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: they spend money on it. Five of their six highest

817
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: paid players are on defense. So they've got a little

818
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: bit of a dilemma. And they score so quickly that

819
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: they always just send that bad defense back out on

820
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Speaker 1: the field. I'm gonna put them at ten, Chiefs of eleven,

821
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Speaker 1: number nine the Bucks. Now their schedule gets tougher. The

822
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: fact that they have to go to the whistle to

823
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: beat the Falcons and the Jets does not feel great

824
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: coming up now with the Eagles and the Seahawks the

825
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: lines the Niners coming up. They've been doing it though,

826
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Speaker 1: missing three offensive linemen and Chris Godwin. Baker Mayfield, like

827
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: a Sam Darnold, has established himself as a legit franchise quarterback.

828
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: Eleven straight games with one hundred plus rushing yards.

829
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Speaker 2: That is hard to do in this.

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Speaker 1: League, especially when you're missing many top offensive linemen. I

831
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: have the Bucks at nine, number eight, the Niners at eight.

832
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a bit high. Mac Jones is the current

833
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,479
Speaker 1: starter now Bosa is gone for the year.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 1: Ricky Pearsall has emerged as a really nice weapon. Two

836
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Speaker 1: of their wins, though, are against the Cardinals at home

837
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 1: and the Saints, and they don't have a buy until

838
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: Week fourteen. This team could use a bye now, but

839
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Speaker 1: the coach, the quality of offense, McCaffrey, Pearsall, Kittles coming back.

840
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Speaker 2: I put him at eight, number seven.

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00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: Here's what we learned about the Lions. If you have

842
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: new coordinators. Don't count the preseason, the Hall of Fame

843
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 1: game or Week one since then, nine hundred total yards

844
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Speaker 1: last night was not as close as the score indicated.

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Speaker 1: Jamiir Gibbs and David Montgomery are an unbelievable running back tandem.

846
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: Eleventh career game, they both scored a rushing touchdown Aiden

847
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: hushes In, and that defensive front gobbled up Lamar Jackson.

848
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: They are twelve and two in primetime games, beating the

849
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Speaker 1: best Monday Night quarterback ever last night, Lamar Jackson Lions

850
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: at seven, number six, Well, I think the Seahawks are

851
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: a handful Kenneth Walker, highest rented running back, Sam Darnold

852
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: PFF highest rented quarterback, and it does look like JSN

853
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: is a number one receiver. It's the defense that makes

854
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: them the second best point differential in the league. They

855
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: have held all three opponents to seventeen points for fewer

856
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: and a lot of credit goes to John Snyder, the GM,

857
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: who has had back to back to back very good drafts.

858
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: They're not even paying a lot of these top defensive guys.

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00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 2: Seahawks at six, number five, Liuseen.

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Speaker 1: The Rams can't beat the Eagles one in six Sean

861
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: McVeigh against the Eagles. They win seventy five percent of

862
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 1: their other games. Their defense is young, inexpensive, and excellent

863
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: most sacks in the NFL. Offense scored on six straight

864
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: drives to take a huge lead against the Eagles. They've

865
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Speaker 1: got weapons at tight end, wide receiver Devonte Adams. People

866
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: aren't talking about it enough. He's just gonna keep getting better.

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Speaker 1: But they don't match up with Philadelphia because they've got

868
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Speaker 1: no corner big enough to stop aj Brown.

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Speaker 2: Number four.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers great red zone defense, so when you can

871
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: drive against them, they are the stingiest red zone defense

872
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: in the league. Amarion Hampton looks like he's going to

873
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: be a real deal. Keenan Allen, does this guy ever age?

874
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: Number two passing offense, they're asking more of Justin Herbert

875
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: now he's getting hit way too much. But Quinton Johnson

876
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: doesn't appear to be a bust. He's emerged as a

877
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 1: big time downfield threat. I like their culture and their toughness.

878
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: Chargers at four. Number three Packers listen fewest yards per

879
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: play allowed green bat. It's one of my favorite stats

880
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,479
Speaker 1: in the league. They don't allow you any yards They've

881
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: held all three opponents in twenty twenty five in the

882
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: NFL under two hundred and fifty total yards. Jordan Love

883
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: it's his first pick in a regular season.

884
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: Game in ten games. It was a stinker.

885
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: They came in flat, they had extra days off and

886
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: Cleveland's got an excellent defense. One of the things that

887
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: worries me. They're not running the football as well as

888
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: they should. But I think the Packers still have a

889
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 1: chance to hoist to Lombardi. Number two Buffalo. It's almost crazy.

890
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 1: Twenty five straight games. They've won the turnover battle right now,

891
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: over the last twelve to fifteen games. Josh Allen's doing

892
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: something that's hard to do. You get all the upside

893
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: and literally no turnovers. They have the best Super Bowl odds.

894
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: I don't love their defense on the back end, but

895
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: I don't like the Ravens defense anywhere.

896
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: I have Buffalo at number two, number one.

897
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: They have really bad halfs like this past weekend, but

898
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: it is the best roster in the league. They could

899
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: probably hit the trade deadline, go and get another corner.

900
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: But you know, Nick Seriani, I didn't get it, but

901
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: the team does.

902
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 2: And Jalen Hurts.

903
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: Maybe a little small, but he throws well up the sideline,

904
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: toughness and leadership, best third and fourth down team in

905
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 1: the league, best roster, most aggressive GM.

906
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: Here is the Herd hierarchy.

907
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: I take the Ravens over Kansas the Chiefs at eleven

908
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: due to the fact the Ravens are the road favorite,

909
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: and I think it's an offensive league and they've got

910
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: an incredibly dynamic offense. And with that, Nick Wright joins

911
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: me First Things First Live.

912
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: As he always does on Tuesday.

913
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, what do you mean, Yeah, that's a

914
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: pretty solid top ten.

915
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 10: Well, listen, I understand that the one in two Ravens,

916
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 10: who have made zero of the last six Super Bowls

917
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 10: and one of the last seven AFC Championship games, deserve

918
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 10: a benefit of the doubt over the one and two Chiefs,

919
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 10: who have made five of the last six Super Bowls

920
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 10: and seven of the last seven AFC Championship games, because

921
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 10: of their champion. Because listen, if we know anything about Baltimore,

922
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 10: it's that they play their best in the biggest spots

923
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 10: in January, and situationally, they're just buttoned up. They would

924
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 10: never blow a big lead or seem a little tight

925
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 10: in a big game. So that's how you earn this

926
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 10: for the doubt to make the hierarchy at one and two.

927
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 11: I would ask you this.

928
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 10: However, just not about Baltimore, about Kansasity, just holistically. If

929
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 10: you are a team with an all time great quarterback,

930
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 10: of which I think we can still agree Baltimore and

931
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 10: Kansas City both are, would you rather your big concern

932
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 10: be on the offensive side of the ball, where that

933
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 10: all time great quarterback can help fix it, or the

934
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,959
Speaker 10: defensive side of the ball, where that all time great

935
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 10: quarterback is sitting on the sideline helpless. I would rather

936
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 10: have the issues be on offense because I feel.

937
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 11: Like my quarterback can figure it out.

938
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 10: If you're Baltimore, it is really concerning now that the

939
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 10: defense for the first half of last year looked awful,

940
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 10: then it tightened up. This year, the defense has looked

941
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 10: really bad through two weeks. They got bullied last night,

942
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 10: and Lamar can't fix that for you.

943
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 11: So I think, listen, I think the AFC.

944
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 10: You know, I'm not worried about them missing the playoffs

945
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 10: or anything like that, but I do think that they

946
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 10: might have some systemic problems on defense, and I obviously

947
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 10: don't trust them, you know, on offense come January. But

948
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 10: that's just because I've watched the playoffs for the last decade.

949
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 10: So I think the Ravens are a little overvalued.

950
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: Okay, I will say in eight weeks, I think the

951
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: Chiefs would beat the Ravens.

952
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: I absolutely do.

953
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: I think without worthy in Rashi, Rice, that I think

954
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: your point is founded in absolute truth. In eight weeks,

955
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: I think there are things in the last twenty Super

956
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: Bowl teams. One lousy defense Atlanta and they blew a

957
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: fourth quarter lead. I've said this in baseball. Can't win

958
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: a World Series with a bad bullpen. You don't even

959
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: have to have a great staff. The Royals won a

960
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: World Series without a great staff. You can't take yes, yep,

961
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: you cannot have a bad bullpen. You cannot be bad

962
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: defensively today, this weekend, I think the Ravens probably better.

963
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: In eight weeks, Rice Worthy, they won't be to your point? Now,

964
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: would you acknowledge though you don't show fear, but you

965
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: have to be honest, Harbaugh Herbert, can you can you

966
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: acknowledge that the Chargers have seized control of the AFC

967
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: West for the foreseeable future.

968
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 10: For the foreseeable future by foreseable future. You mean like

969
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 10: the next six or seven weeks. Sure by the end

970
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 10: of the year. Let's see. Now there's a lot to

971
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 10: unback here. One is I apologize. I was getting dressed,

972
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 10: so I didn't see the entirety.

973
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 11: Of your justin Herbert interview. I'm sure it was great.

974
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 10: But did you apologize to him for you losing all

975
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 10: faith in this team's ability to even make the playoffs

976
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 10: due to the Rashaun Slater injury? Did that come up

977
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 10: at all that your love of Bo Nicks? By the way,

978
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 10: did Bo Nicks get vetoed from conversation on it? He

979
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 10: seems like a big preseason topic, not so much regular season.

980
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 11: However, we have something much more.

981
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 10: Important to discuss that I am going to surprise you

982
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 10: with because I feel you might, for the first time

983
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 10: in our wonderful relationship, owe me an apology because you

984
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 10: are getting a lot of seemingly deserved run, even a

985
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 10: little heat for what appears to be a Colin Coward

986
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 10: original scorching take about Jim Harbaugh and where he is

987
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 10: in the coaching pantheon, to which I would say, and

988
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 10: this might be jarring to the audience, because you're about

989
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 10: to see a shaved head.

990
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 11: Thirty one year old.

991
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 10: Nick Wright, can we roll the tape of me from

992
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 10: August of twenty sixteen on your show filling in for

993
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 10: you about Jim Harbaugh nine years ago?

994
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 11: Roll it please.

995
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 10: I think Jim Harbole is the best football coach in

996
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 10: the world. I would rather have Jim Harball than Bill Belichick.

997
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 10: I would rather have Jim Harvald and Nick Saban. I

998
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 10: would rather have Jim Harbald than Urban Meyer. I would

999
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 10: rather have Jim Harbald than Mike Tomlin. I think he

1000
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 10: is the best football coach there is.

1001
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 11: I mean, I.

1002
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 10: Mean, you're a decade late, buddy.

1003
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 11: Everybody's like, oh, calling.

1004
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 5: Out on a limb.

1005
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 11: I did that in your seat nine years ago.

1006
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 10: Now that was before Andy Reid became Andy Reid and

1007
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 10: kind of displaced him in my own brain. But still

1008
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 10: we're in lockstep on Harball where you're not going to.

1009
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 11: Get any disagreement for me on that.

1010
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 10: I think he is has shown his ability to win

1011
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 10: in any place, at any level, through any style is unique,

1012
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 10: and he is almost one of one in that regard.

1013
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 10: I think you are a little too high on the

1014
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 10: Chargers as a whole, simply because I think it is

1015
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,959
Speaker 10: very rare in the NFL for you to win all

1016
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 10: of the big games before when you've never won any

1017
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 10: of the big games. So this feels to me like

1018
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 10: a super great step in the right direction.

1019
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 11: Year.

1020
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 10: Maybe divisional round playoff appearance for the first time in

1021
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 10: Herbert's career year, but I'm not ready to say that.

1022
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 10: I think they can go through the AFC. But they

1023
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 10: look awesome. Herbert's playing great, the defense is awesome, and

1024
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 10: Harball's a legend.

1025
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 11: So I agree with you in that regard.

1026
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 10: I also think the Chiefs might be able to run

1027
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 10: him down when.

1028
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: It's all said and done. Yeah.

1029
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: My favorite part of that is you look so respectful

1030
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: and dignified. Your hair was short, and all of a

1031
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: sudden got some ratings, and he looks like.

1032
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 10: This is It's not the ratings. I honestly, I listen,

1033
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 10: I'm not. This is going to sound immodest. I don't

1034
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 10: mean it too. I just it's more of the money

1035
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 10: than the ratings.

1036
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 11: I just, I'm.

1037
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 10: Just I just didn't I didn't think I could pull

1038
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 10: off this look years ago.

1039
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm a different man. By the way.

1040
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 10: We don't want to I don't this is right when

1041
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 10: the herd long strong fst one.

1042
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 11: We don't want to do h A.

1043
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 10: You know, we both made some interesting hair and choices

1044
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 10: in that.

1045
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 11: Era if we all remember.

1046
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: But go ahead. So I was saying this about Jalen Hurts.

1047
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: You and I have been on this for years that

1048
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: size matters for quarterbacks and everybody after Russell Wilson's like

1049
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel and Bryce Young and Kyler Nantua and it's

1050
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: like guys, it matters. But I will say this, I

1051
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: said last week, I'm a quarterback traits elitist. I like

1052
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: him tall, I like big arms, I like mobility.

1053
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: I'm an elitist.

1054
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: And I was always with Jalen Hurts E. They're a

1055
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: little small, and I never knew what his great trait was.

1056
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: What's his superstar trait? He is the strongest quarterback pound

1057
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 1: for pound in league history. He may be the strongest player.

1058
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: And as I watched them in the second half against

1059
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: the Rams, a defense that is getting everybody fits.

1060
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 2: He is really unique.

1061
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: He's all, despite his size, a great sideline thrower. He

1062
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: throws the ball up the sideline about as well as Mahomes.

1063
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he's that good on the sidelines. I was saying,

1064
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: I look at Philadelphia and I've always been like the quarterback.

1065
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 11: I don't know.

1066
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: I think his strength is a superpower.

1067
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 10: So I think his intangibles and leadership are probably a superpower.

1068
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 10: I think the strength obviously helps immensely, not just in

1069
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 10: what was called the Tush push but now branded early

1070
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 10: bird because they false start every time. That's what their

1071
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 10: quarterbacks thinks called go ahead and call it early bird, Colin,

1072
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 10: get on early on that. Okay, neither here the but

1073
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 10: no here is what I find so interesting about Jalen

1074
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 10: Hurts because you're right to the sidelines.

1075
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 11: He's a great passer.

1076
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 10: Kind of the middle intermediate part of the field is

1077
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 10: maybe where the size hurts him a little bit, But

1078
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 10: it seems though like the biggest Jalen Hurts fans believe

1079
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,479
Speaker 10: in him more than.

1080
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 11: His own coaching staff.

1081
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 10: They the only reason he got an opportunity to throw

1082
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 10: the ball Sunday was because they had no other choice.

1083
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 10: Even though he came through in the NFC Title Game,

1084
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 10: he came through in the Super Bowl. He had a

1085
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 10: year a few years ago where he was top three

1086
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 10: in MVP voting. They were refusing to open up the

1087
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 10: offense and Last year, Colin, that made sense because they

1088
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 10: had the best defense in the league and Saquan was

1089
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 10: averaging one p fifty a game and you were blowing

1090
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 10: people out. This year, Saquan hasn't yet popped, the defense

1091
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 10: hasn't been great, and they still don't want to let

1092
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 10: Jalen throw. I find that really odd, and I think

1093
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 10: it's interesting that they don't that.

1094
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 11: Again, like Kevin.

1095
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 10: Wilds, who loves Jalen Hurts, seems to think he's better

1096
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 10: than Kevin Batullo, the offensive coordinator for the Eagles, that

1097
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 10: part is weird. What I will say about Philadelphia is this,

1098
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 10: and I'm sorry to invoke the Chiefs, but I must.

1099
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 10: I find it very very interesting how the Eagles are.

1100
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 10: You know, they win games blocking a kick, a guy

1101
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 10: drops a pass, a tipped pick, and it is a

1102
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 10: sign of a team that just knows how to win.

1103
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 10: They even maybe get a few beneficial calls, and it's

1104
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 10: just hey, be better. And the Chiefs last year were

1105
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 10: playing this exact same script and everyone saying, oh, this

1106
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 10: has got to be coming to a crashing halt. The Eagles,

1107
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 10: like the Chiefs last year, know how to win games.

1108
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 10: And while they might be winless, in hypothetical scenarios, if

1109
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 10: CD caught it, if Travis caught it, if they don't

1110
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 10: block the kick, they are undefeated in the actual standings.

1111
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 10: And I do think winning is a team skill, and

1112
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 10: the Eagles have found away each and every week despite

1113
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 10: not playing their best football yet, and I think that's

1114
00:52:58,920 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 10: really impressive.

1115
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I want to wrap on Caleb Williams. So

1116
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: there are certain things he doesn't do with consistency. His

1117
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: personality isn't terribly consistent, he can get very emotional. His

1118
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: accuracy isn't olways consistent. And my feeling is on Caleb

1119
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: Williams unlike Brady, where you know exactly what you're getting

1120
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: and kind of like Jalen Hurts, you kind.

1121
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: Of know what you get, you know what you don't get.

1122
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: Caleb is a bit of a roller coaster personality accuracy.

1123
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 1: So as I watched him eat the Cowboys for lunch,

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00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: my take is he's going to come out this week

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00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: and he's going to struggle and you just have to

1126
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: come to terms with he has all this horsepower. But

1127
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: what Josh Allen has done to eliminate the reckless, I

1128
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: don't think he can do. I think they're different personalities,

1129
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: and as I watch Caleb, I'm like, we just have

1130
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: to get comfortable with the fact that he is going

1131
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: to drive Ben Johnson crazy. About every other series I

1132
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: watched Ben Johnson's body language, Caleb drove him crazy six

1133
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: times and maybe that's just what he is so well.

1134
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 10: I listen, it took Josh Allen six years to stop

1135
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 10: turning though, just stop being a roller coaster.

1136
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 11: A guy who right now I think.

1137
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 10: Is in the midst of it is Jordan Love who

1138
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 10: when he's good, he's great, and when he's bad, he

1139
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 10: gives the game away to the Browns, you know, so

1140
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 10: that can be a process. I don't necessarily agree with

1141
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 10: you Colin that I think this week Caleb's going.

1142
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 11: To have a down game.

1143
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 10: Where I do agree with you, is he seems like

1144
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 10: because of the right now, I would say this sounds

1145
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 10: too harsh, and I don't mean it too but emotional immaturity,

1146
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 10: just the fact that he is he kind of lives

1147
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 10: and dies with each play. Yes, that I think that

1148
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 10: it is. He is the type of player who when

1149
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 10: he is having a great game, it's going to lead

1150
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 10: to a greater game, and if he misses a few throws,

1151
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 10: it can snowball against him. So I think a lot

1152
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 10: of it has to do with how a game starts

1153
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 10: and then does he avoid a pitfall early, and then

1154
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 10: it can be a game like we saw this weekend.

1155
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 10: But I also think there is a huge opportunity for

1156
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 10: the Bears. This weekend they play the Raiders, then they

1157
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 10: have the bye.

1158
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:23,720
Speaker 11: If they can.

1159
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 10: Beat the Raiders and even themselves at two and two,

1160
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 10: then they have the bye.

1161
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 11: Then the next week.

1162
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 10: Colin is a game against the team that ended their

1163
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 10: season last year effectively in the Commanders and Jadeen Daniels.

1164
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 10: They'd be coming off a bye, they'd be two and two.

1165
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 11: So I think this is.

1166
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 10: A critical spot for Caleb and Benn to beat the Raiders.

1167
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 10: Steady yourself have two weeks to have that, you know,

1168
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 10: Caleb versus Jayden, Bears versus Commander's game, and then see

1169
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 10: where he's at. But I do think it's going to

1170
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 10: be fits and starts. But you've seen already through twenty

1171
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 10: games of the kid's career, the overall talent level is

1172
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 10: so high that even if he doesn't fully tighten up

1173
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 10: everything else, his floor is going to be relatively high.

1174
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 10: And if he does tighten up the other stuff. He

1175
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 10: unequivocally can be the guy that I know coming out

1176
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 10: of college you and I both thought he would be,

1177
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 10: which is one of the very best quarterbacks in the league.

1178
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: Nick Right, First things first, I loved your Harbaugh take.

1179
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: I forgot you know, I was pro on VAK. I

1180
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: only get a couple, definitely.

1181
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 10: I mean I was sitting in your seat and back listen.

1182
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 10: In twenty sixteen. You might not have gotten twenty twenty

1183
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 10: five Cowhird vacation days, but you still had subs still.

1184
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 11: Where I'll take a few days.

1185
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,439
Speaker 10: And by the way, it's because of that that I'm

1186
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 10: here now, So I owe it to you, my friend.

1187
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 11: But yeah, Harball, I was way ahead of you on that.

1188
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 11: That's fine, don't worry about it. You can.

1189
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 10: I've stolen from you plenty, so you can take this

1190
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 10: one for me.

1191
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 11: I'll see you next week.

1192
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: Butddy, First things first, my buddy, Nick Right. You know,

1193
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: it's an interesting thing about Josh Allen. Josh Allen when

1194
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 1: he started, and Buffalo's different from Chicago. Buffalo's a small market.

1195
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: It's very supportive. Is that Josh Allen's first year and

1196
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: a half, he was a turnover machine. He couldn't complete

1197
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: fifty eight percent of his throws and it took him

1198
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: until about eighteen nineteen twenty games, and you're like, Okay,

1199
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: he's jumping over linebackers. It's gonna work. But again, in Buffalo,

1200
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: it's more supportive. It's a smaller market, and they'd had

1201
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly before. They've been to Super Bowls before, they

1202
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: got the quarterback right multiple times. In Chicago, there's so

1203
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: many things working against the young quarterback who struggles. It's

1204
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: a very loud media. It's a major market. They can't

1205
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: get quarterback right. The team up north, the tiny market,

1206
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: always gets quarterback right. So you could make an argument,

1207
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: just make Caleb Williams work. We're gonna give it three

1208
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: full years. We don't care what that's what they did

1209
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen. We think he's super talented. We think

1210
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: it's horsepower's unbelievable. We're just going to go on and

1211
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: on and Josh Allen every year. Just get it's a

1212
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: little better. But it is harder when you're the Chicago

1213
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: Bears quarterback and they've never gotten the quarterback position right,

1214
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: and the guys up north thirty minutes on a train

1215
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: up North are the best team in the league at

1216
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: developing the most important position, the quarterback. It's a loud media.

1217
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: It's just hard are certain environments. It's just tougher for

1218
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: young people. And our current economy, more than any time

1219
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: in my life, is really hard for even the kids

1220
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: that go to the Ivy League schools. We got a

1221
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: new environment AI displacing jobs, blah blah blah. Chicago for quarterbacks,

1222
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: it's tough.

1223
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 2: It's a tough place.

1224
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: And they had a Jim Kelly and they had multiple

1225
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. Maybe it would be different. But they were

1226
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: very patient with Josh Allen because of his horsepower, not

1227
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: because he was super accurate for the first year and

1228
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: a half.

1229
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 2: I mean, like even the first year.

1230
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: For Caleb Williams, he had six picks, He completed well

1231
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: over sixty percent of his throws, and the coaching staff

1232
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: was a mess. Josh Allen inherited Sean McDonough or Sean

1233
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: mc dorman, excuse me, so, I mean he went to

1234
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: a team that had already made the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor.

1235
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: They weren't in chaos. The Bears were in chaos. Coach

1236
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: in the hot seat. Caleb's like twenty touchdown six picks,

1237
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: sixty three or sixty four percent the pleation percentage, and.

1238
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: It was like disaster. So it's just harder in Chicago.

1239
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 2: One more heard.

1240
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,760
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1241
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,960
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1242
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,440
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1243
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Speaker 1: All right, here we go. It is a Friday. We

1244
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: are love in Chicago. It's the Herd. Wherever you may

1245
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 1: be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making

1246
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: us part of your day. J Mack, I thought this

1247
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: was the strangest thing I know.

1248
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 2: You loved the Lakers.

1249
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: JJ Reddick got a contract extension. Happy for him.

1250
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:47,919
Speaker 2: I like him.

1251
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: I didn't think he had a great playoff series at all,

1252
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: but I did think he had a very good year.

1253
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: I think they were very intentional Offensively, I thought he

1254
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: was an upgrade over Darvin Ham offensively.

1255
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: For sure, he had the respect.

1256
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: Of Lebron James, So I think I thought he had

1257
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: a very good rookie year. I thought he had a

1258
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: bad playoff series. But again you're talking about was that

1259
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: Chris Finch. I mean, you're going up against one of

1260
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: the best coaching staffs in the league. So I didn't

1261
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: get it. I mean, he won fifty games, he deserved credit,

1262
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: but they gave him a contract extension, and I thought

1263
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: that was I thought he just signed a contract. It's

1264
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: not like he had a massive market where the entire

1265
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: NBA was like knocking down the door to get JJ Reddick.

1266
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: But he got an extension yesterday after kind of a

1267
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I don't think even JJ Reddick would acknowledge.

1268
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: I think he would acknowledge it was not a good

1269
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: playoff series for him. Remember that weird experiment where he

1270
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: did not he left his starters in was it the

1271
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: entire second half and they were gassed in the next

1272
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: game And it had never been done before, so it

1273
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: took a big swing. It backfired, and they gave him

1274
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: an extension. Is that not weird?

1275
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 3: Come on, let's lay off JJ Rady. He's a good guy.

1276
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 3: He loves chat GPT, which I use a lot. I'm

1277
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 3: using a lot for NFL gambling. The season cong There

1278
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 3: is unbelievable info on there, man, JJ Reddick uses it.

1279
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 2: It's got to be good enough for us, right, I

1280
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: don't know.

1281
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: I just thought usually how as season ends dictates how

1282
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: ownership in front offices view you. I mean the NBA

1283
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: regular season. Come on, I mean they stole Luca in

1284
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: the postseason. You're like, he would admit kind of a clunker,

1285
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: Like it was kind of a clunker against Minnesota. Took

1286
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: a big swing on a move that had never been done,

1287
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: and the team felt like it was gassed. And I

1288
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe maybe it's new ownership. Obviously they had

1289
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: to be a green light. It tells you.

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01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 2: They like the new skinny Luca, they like Reddick.

1291
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: Because it seems like my guess on why the Lakers

1292
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: did this, they are doubling down on Luca and JJ

1293
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: Reddick it being the future, not Lebron.

1294
01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 2: They're saying all the right.

1295
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: Things Onink' is like, oh, I hope he ends his career.

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01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: Ownership is sending a signal to Lebron. This is JJ

1297
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: Reddick and Luca's franchise. They're saying the right stuff on Lebron.

1298
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: But what they're doing is Lebron, you're our third pitch

1299
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: actions over words yep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And that's my guess is that new ownership is just

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Speaker 1: doubling down on don't think for a second we're not

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Speaker 1: gonna send messages. It is a Luca team, and I've

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Speaker 1: told you I think Luca this year ends up averaging

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Speaker 1: over thirty because when he's been in shape, he takes

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Speaker 1: the ball over, he doesn't give it back. And Lebron's

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Speaker 1: gonna be watching a lot of basketball and one end

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Speaker 1: of the floor not participating. All right, Hey, the have

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Speaker 1: the best week. I got some bad breaks. Undeterred. Here's

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Speaker 1: our blazing five.

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Speaker 2: Let's blaze it up, fired up.

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Speaker 7: It's Collins Blazon Fuck Vikings versus Steeler.

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Speaker 1: Favorite bet on the board. I'm gonna take Minnesota minus

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Speaker 1: two and a half. I get the better offensive staff,

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Speaker 1: best better defense, I think right now, I don't know

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Speaker 1: why I would like Pittsburgh. Minnesota's won eleven of its

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Speaker 1: last thirteen regular season games, and they've been very good

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Speaker 1: on the road or away from home. I get Carson Wentz,

1319
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison's back, Jordan Mason more than capable, Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 1: I think I get a better offensive line. So I

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Speaker 1: like the offense, and the defense ranks top five in

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Speaker 1: the league. The Steelers offense is a mess. They can't

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Speaker 1: run the ball, they can't protect Aaron Rodgers. This coaching

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01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: staff can't figure.

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Speaker 2: Out a run game.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why this line is only minus two

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Speaker 1: and a half. The Steelers under Tomlin have been a

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Speaker 1: good underdog team. They'll play like their hair's on fire.

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Speaker 1: But I think Minnesota twenty seven to twenty covers here

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01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: better staff, better offense, better defense.

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Speaker 2: I a better road team.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Minnesotas Patriots. I'm taking the over forty

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Speaker 1: three and a half. I don't get the number. Listen,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots outplayed the Steelers. They just kept coughing it

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01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: up Drake May. In the last two weeks, it's completing

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01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: seventy four percent of his throws. The problem for them

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01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: is they don't have a pass rush. They're allowing the

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Speaker 1: most big plays. So for New England to win, they

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01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: gonna win. They got to score some points, and I

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01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 1: think they will because Carolina's defense, they don't get to

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01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: the quarterback either. I mean, they have one sack through

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01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: their first three games. So you're gonna get a very

1343
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:33,919
Speaker 1: comfortable Drake May, who's gonna have time at home to throw.

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01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: The weather's not an issue. The bad weather's out of town.

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01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: You have two defenses that don't get after the quarterback

1346
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: and two quarterbacks when they're not pressured, who can complete

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01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 1: a lot of passes and move the chains. I think

1348
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: it's this. I think we get points in this game.

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01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: Twenty six twenty three New England wins take the over.

1350
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: Bryce Young last week completed sixty seven percent of his throws.

1351
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: If he's got time, he does that.

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01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 2: Colt sid Rants, I think it's a good spot for

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01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 2: the Rams.

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01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: Sean McVay off a disappointing close loss, they come back home.

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01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: They have the second highest grade by PFF of any

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01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:11,959
Speaker 1: team in the league. Frams are a really good team

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01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: that dominated Philly in Philly for a half. Pooka and

1358
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: Devonte Adams have been outstanding, the best receiving tandem in

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01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: the league. And the defense leads the NFL in sacks.

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Speaker 1: So Daniel Jones and he has a good old line.

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Speaker 2: Is going to face real pressure.

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Speaker 1: The offense last week for the Colts came back down

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Speaker 1: to earth a little. They were two for eight on

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01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: third down. They weren't very good and their defense has

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01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: major holes on the back end. This is not a

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Speaker 1: great Colts defense on the back end. Poka, Tyron Williams,

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford McVeigh at home. I think they look much

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Speaker 1: more comfortable. They beat the Colts thirty four to twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Thirty excuse me to twenty four. This is a good

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Speaker 1: spot for the Rams at home against an average, beaten

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Speaker 1: up secondary. Take the Rams Bears in Raiders. I like

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. They're a slight favorite. I like the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Gino Smith, do you know this leads the NFL in

1374
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: big pass plays second passing yards only behind Justin Herbert.

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01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: When Gino has time to throw often this year he hasn't.

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01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: He can sling it, and I think it's a great

1377
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: opportunity to get the running game going. The bigger story

1378
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: here is we're concentrating on Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson,

1379
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: but the Bears defense has not been good and they're

1380
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: a terrible road team, one to eight on the road

1381
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: last nine games. Caleb has been bad on the road.

1382
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: The Bears have been a bad road team, and their

1383
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 1: defense is allowing six point seven yards of play. We're

1384
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: not talking about the fact that the Bears defense is struggling.

1385
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: Opposing quarterbacks are completing seventy five percent of their throws

1386
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: against the Chicago Bears. Bad road team. The Raiders come

1387
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 1: back home trying to ash some offensive dominance up front

1388
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: against the team. I think they'll run the ball on

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01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: I do. I think Gent has a breakout game. I'm

1390
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 1: gonna take the Raiders to win it. Twenty seven to

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01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: twenty three.

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01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 2: Bengals and Broncos.

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01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Broncos are coming off two rough road losses. They

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01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: lost both games when time expired. Denver's got the much

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01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: better defense. Denver's got the better head coach. Denver's got

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01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: tremendous personnel up front. Defensively, I mean, they have the

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01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: second best red zone defense, so even when you get

1398
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 1: down into the red zone, it is hard to get

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Speaker 1: touchdowns out of Denver. They lead the NFL in sacks.

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01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: They also get their tight end, Evan Ingram back.

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01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 2: This is big.

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01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 1: This is big because Bonnicks hasn't been great throwing the

1403
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: ball deep this year. They've missed on big plays. So

1404
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram is in that twelve to fourteen yard space.

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01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: Big for Denver's offense. The Bengals worst rushing attack in

1406
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: the league, putting more pressure on an average quarterback Jake Browning.

1407
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: They don't do a lot well offensively. You see the screen.

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01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: I think Denver is an undervalued team with a much

1409
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:16,440
Speaker 1: better roster against the shaky O line an excellent pass rush.

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01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 1: I think Denver controls the game. Bo Nicks, by the way,

1411
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:24,839
Speaker 1: not great in September last year. Finally Clicks thirty twenty.

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01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: They cover the spread. Take the Denver Broncos. So once again,

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01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 1: looking at our picks, I like favorites this weekend. Vikings

1414
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: good road team. I think they have the better staff,

1415
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 1: better weapons, better run game and playing better defensively. Minnesota

1416
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 1: to cover Panther's Patriots. I think score points. I'm surprised

1417
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: that the over unders only forty three and a half.

1418
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: The weather's cleared. I think it's a great spot for

1419
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 1: the Rams to cover. I don't like the Bears on

1420
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: the road. I can't go crazy. Bears are probably the

1421
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: worst road team in the league, and I'm gonna take

1422
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 1: Denver so.

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01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 2: I will say this, I.

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01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 1: Think the one team in the league that's actually really

1425
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: really good that hasn't looked like it is the Denver

1426
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: Broncos So. Bow Knicks last year was really bad in September.

1427
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: Bow Knicks this year hasn't been good in September. What

1428
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: a coincidence? Drew Brees. His worst month as a Saint

1429
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 1: was September.

1430
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 2: Why.

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01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:30,839
Speaker 1: My theory has always been, Sean Peyton puts a lot

1432
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: on your plate. And in Drew Brees's last three or

1433
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 1: four years in New Orleans, starters don't play in the preseason.

1434
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,440
Speaker 1: Bow Knicks didn't taking a lot of snaps in the preseason,

1435
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 1: and Sean Payton puts a lot on your plate. And

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01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: I think it takes October, November, and December for Breeze

1437
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: and bow Knicks to get their arms around the playbook.

1438
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 1: Sean Payton's career record in September Sean Payton's five hundred,

1439
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:03,480
Speaker 1: thirty and thirty. The rest of his career in October

1440
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 1: on is fifty and seventeen. So Sean Payton and his

1441
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks do not play well in September.

1442
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy?

1443
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: Sean Payton an all time coach, five hundred in September,

1444
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 1: Drew Brees average in September. Drew Brees is one of

1445
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks of all time. So I think as

1446
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 1: we get closer to the end, you get a very

1447
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: weak defensive personnel in Cincinnati, they can't run the ball

1448
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: third and longs. I think they popped this weekend, and

1449
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: here was Sean Payton on the early struggles of Bo Nicks.

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01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 12: Just keep firing. You know he's going to hit plenty

1451
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 12: of those. One of the things.

1452
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 2: That's a gift is his off schedule throws.

1453
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 12: So you just want to be careful how much you

1454
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 12: tell them. And then I think part of it is

1455
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 12: when you when you settle into certain plays, there's a

1456
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 12: rhythm to you know, the canis Yeah.

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01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: So there are things that are not a coincidence. Sean

1458
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 1: Payton never been a great September coach, which goes against everything.

1459
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: Drew Brees all timer worst month was September. Bo Nick

1460
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 1: suddenly wish Sean Payton really struggles in September. Now you're

1461
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: saying to yourself, well, it's still September. I believe this

1462
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 1: is a great spot. Extra day, you know, they get

1463
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 1: the extra day at prep. They're at home, high altitude,

1464
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: beat up defense for Cincinnati. This game, I think they

1465
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 1: click and they looked a part. I think this is

1466
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: the last really special team in the NFL that hasn't.

1467
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 2: Looked special yet.

1468
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 1: For the record, that Colt's game they had won, they

1469
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 1: rekicked and lost Chargers game. Couple opportunities missed on big

1470
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 1: opportunities downfield,