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Speaker 2: news of the day, we were monitoring President Trump. He

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Speaker 2: is departing Joint Bass Andrews getting on Air Force one

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Speaker 2: heading tomorrow lago. But then he walked past the front

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Speaker 2: stairs and we thought, oh, where's he going. Well, of

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Speaker 2: course he's going to talk to the media. So while

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Speaker 2: that is happening, I'm going to get onto the news

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Speaker 2: of the day. And of course we are still awaiting

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Speaker 2: the vote to avert a government shutdown in the Senate

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Speaker 2: that should be happening very shortly, so we're going to

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Speaker 2: get you right out to that when it does. But

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Speaker 2: there's been a lot of back and forth all week

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Speaker 2: about it. First, the Democrats in the House were hoping

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Speaker 2: for some Republican disunity. They did not vote for this

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Speaker 2: most recent Continuing Resolution, but enough Republicans did to pass

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Speaker 2: it on to the Senate, and that's where the real

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Speaker 2: strategizing started among Democrats.

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Speaker 1: Would they support the CR or not?

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Speaker 2: Well, the original answer was going to be a hard

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Speaker 2: no from the Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and the

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Speaker 2: rest of the Senate Democrats, but once the Schumer shut

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Speaker 2: down line got used and spread like wildfire, he seemed

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Speaker 2: to decide that he was going to change his tune

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Speaker 2: on it, signaling that he would be in favor of

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Speaker 2: the government open because, in his words, quote, a shutdown

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Speaker 2: would be a gift for Donald Trump. Well, the motion

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Speaker 2: simple majority vote to get the Continuing Resolution finally passed.

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Speaker 1: But Senator Schumer.

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Speaker 2: His decision did not sit well with some Democrats, including

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Speaker 2: Congresswoman Alexander Acasio Cortes, who is representative, of course in

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Speaker 2: And here's what she had to say about it.

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Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer, I guess the Senate Democratic leader, your senator

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Speaker 3: said at this meeting that he is going to vote

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Speaker 1: He is going to vote to allow there to be

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Speaker 1: a simple majority vote. You think that's wrong.

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Speaker 4: I believe that's a tremendous mistake.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow.

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Speaker 4: I think well, first and foremost, the American people. If

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Speaker 4: anyone has held a town hall or has seen what

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Speaker 4: has been happening in town halls, American people, whether they

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Speaker 4: are Republicans, independence, Democrats, are up in arms about Elon

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Speaker 4: This continuing resolution codifies much of this chaos that Elon

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Speaker 4: many of those changes. It is almost unthinkable why Senate

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Speaker 4: to protect social Security, protect Medicaid, and protect medicare.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: Actually, lots of poles are showing that the American people

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Speaker 2: support what DOJ is doing. But it looks like we're

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Speaker 2: much more contentious that time around, because Republicans will be

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Speaker 2: looking for much deeper cuts and Democrats will presumably be

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Speaker 5: Something doesn't make sense here.

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Speaker 3: President Trump and his team identified the cuts that need

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Speaker 3: Congress has to act to make the cuts identified by

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Speaker 2: So we're going to talk much more about all of

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Speaker 2: that throughout the show tonight. But President Trump also made

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Speaker 2: his way to the Department of Justice today, the same

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Speaker 2: it was a pretty momentous day.

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Speaker 1: Here is what the.

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Speaker 2: President had to say about all of that at the

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Speaker 6: First, we must be honest about the lies and abuses

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Speaker 6: that have occurred within these walls. Unfortunately, in recent years,

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Speaker 6: a corrupt group of hacks and radicals within the ranks

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Speaker 6: of the American government obliterated the trust and goodwill built

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Speaker 6: up over generations. They weaponized the vast powers of our

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Speaker 6: will of the American people. You remember the fifty one

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Speaker 6: intelligence agents that said, as an example, that Hunter Biden's

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Speaker 6: laptop from Hell came from Russia. When they knew it

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Speaker 6: came right from his bedroom.

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Speaker 1: They knew that it was a big lie, and they

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Speaker 6: They spied on my campaign, launched one hoax, and disinformation

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Speaker 6: operation after another broke the law and a colossal scale

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Speaker 6: me from becoming the president of the United States. But

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Speaker 6: in the end, the thugs failed, and the truth one, freedom,

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Speaker 6: one justice, one democracy one and above all the American

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Speaker 6: people one.

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Speaker 2: Nobody puts it quite like President Trump, but he's right.

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Speaker 2: The American people took a vote against all of that

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Speaker 2: political targeting and weaponized justice going on inside the Biden

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Speaker 2: Department of Justice, and that is partly why he is

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Speaker 2: president again. Right now, all right, everybody, so we are

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Speaker 2: going to give you an eye into that right there,

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Speaker 2: you see it on your screen. President Trump is going

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Speaker 2: to be taking off shortly on Air Force one, heading

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Speaker 1: Mar A Lago.

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Speaker 2: All right, time now to get to our very first

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Speaker 2: guests of the evening and joining me now to discuss

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Speaker 2: all of the drama surrounding the continuing resolution to fund

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Speaker 2: the government. Government is Economist for the Heritage Foundation EJ

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Speaker 2: and Tony EJ.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for being here, my pleasure, Thank you

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Speaker 1: for having me absolutely.

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Speaker 2: The pleasure is all ours, And I have to say

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Speaker 2: I don't think it was too pleasurable for Chuck Schumer

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Speaker 2: to have to eat crow and go from we're not

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Speaker 2: going to support this too, well, yes we are, including

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Speaker 2: I think nine other Democrats. I was trying to keep

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Speaker 2: counting at Schumer, King, Durbin, Cortez, Masso, Schatz, Hassan, Fetterman, Peters, Jillibrand,

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Speaker 7: Well, it's interesting because if you look at the mix there,

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Speaker 7: And so if you ask somebody like Fetterman, the reason

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Speaker 7: for voting for this seems to be that he just

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Speaker 7: which is a pretty moderate view. But among the radicals,

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Speaker 7: it seems to be that they were suspicious that if

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Speaker 7: happen in a government shutdown, then the bureaucrats wouldn't be

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Speaker 7: of Doze. In fact, all of these Democrat operatives with

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Speaker 7: So again, it's an interesting coalition that you have there

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Speaker 7: with the Democrats, where it's this strange combination of some

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Speaker 7: very different, even if the end is the same.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's flash forward to September when this conversation

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Speaker 2: seems like maybe this time around we've got a better

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Speaker 1: You got Doze doing their thing.

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Speaker 2: these cuts can and should come from.

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Speaker 7: Most of it's going to come from discretionary spending. You know,

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Speaker 7: people forget that it's not things like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid.

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Speaker 7: Now in ten years, you know, those different Ponzi schemes,

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Speaker 7: it's effectively what they are. Those different Ponzi schemes are

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Speaker 5: To have to deal with them.

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Speaker 7: The issue is just that they're not the cause of

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Speaker 7: if Biden had come into office and simply done nothing,

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Speaker 7: in other words, don't sign ARPA, don't sign the IRA,

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Speaker 7: return the nation back to its twenty nineteen spending levels.

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Speaker 7: If he had done that, we'd have a balanced budget today.

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Speaker 7: So that just goes to show you that it is

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Speaker 7: all of the extras that Congress and the White House

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Speaker 7: We can still grow our way out of this mess,

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Speaker 7: provided we do cut all of the extraneous nonsense that

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's just like running a household.

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Speaker 2: If you spend your if you go to the nine

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Speaker 2: to nine cent store and you spend one hundred dollars

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Speaker 2: on junk every time you go there, then at some

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Speaker 2: point you got to figure out if you want to

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Speaker 2: buy the junker, if you want.

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Speaker 1: To pay your bills. I want to ask you about

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Speaker 1: our debt.

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Speaker 2: Republicans again, they want to they claim they want to

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Speaker 2: be responsible, but this is something that is an absolute

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Speaker 2: threat to our country.

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Speaker 1: I would argue it's a threat.

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Speaker 2: To our national security when we are relying on other

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Speaker 1: But talk to us about that.

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Speaker 2: And I mean, can Republicans cut enough into that so

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's spot on.

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Speaker 7: Is that possible. It's certainly possible. You know, people forget

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Speaker 1: Let's go back. I think that's a great idea.

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Speaker 2: Let's get rid of it all together, and you know,

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Speaker 1: We'll see how that goes. EJ. Antony, always always wonderful

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, all right, everybody, as you see, they're fifty

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Speaker 2: Great, but coming up A TV station in Nashville censored

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Speaker 10: I mean right now.

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Speaker 1: Also playing is too good? You guys, just keep playing it.

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Speaker 2: What you just heard was a song from the Dugger

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Speaker 11: And the station said, yeah, guys, come on in, we

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Speaker 5: So a lot of music industry people are going.

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Speaker 1: To see that.

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Speaker 11: But then they get an email from WSMV basically telling them, guys,

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Speaker 11: We find these lyrics to be too politically biased, too

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Speaker 11: So they didn't, so I told them I would tell

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Speaker 2: Ridiculous, and the Dugger Man also read that letter that

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Speaker 12: Here it is where we just received this email from

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Speaker 12: We're just now really looking into the lyrics of the song.

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Speaker 12: The song does cross a political line that we as

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Speaker 12: a station just can't cross. We use a show and

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Speaker 12: We can still mention that they recently released it, but

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Speaker 2: Joining me now to discuss Jordan and Seth Dugger of

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Speaker 2: So this political line that they claim they won't allow

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Speaker 5: We don't know.

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Speaker 13: We were given no explanation as to what was politically

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Speaker 13: that's the explanation that we had. So that left us

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Speaker 5: And we went on and.

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Speaker 13: Read the letter there as you played the clip, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: Very Yeah. Has this ever happened before?

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Speaker 10: No, we have never had this happen, And it just

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Speaker 10: We wanted to write a song that brings the country

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Speaker 5: We just wanted to bring something.

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Speaker 10: That would bring everybody together, but they seem to make

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Speaker 5: And yeah, that's the first time that's ever.

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Speaker 1: Happened, you know, It's it's amazing to me.

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Speaker 2: I do agree that patriotism has been political politicized, but

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Speaker 13: should be able to be proud of this country and

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Speaker 13: think that it's worth standing up for and fighting for.

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Speaker 13: And we're just hoping that we can get back to that.

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Speaker 13: I feel like it's just it doesn't make sense to us.

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Speaker 13: We love our country. There's so many men and women

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Speaker 13: that have sacrificed so many things for this country, including

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Speaker 13: our great granddad. And in the second verse of this song,

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Speaker 13: we talk about and we called him Pap and he

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Speaker 13: was in my life until I was in college, so

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Speaker 13: I got to share a lot of time with him

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Speaker 13: and get to hear some stories about World War Two

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Speaker 13: and just hearing what he went through and how so

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Speaker 13: many years later it still affected him, just in an

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Speaker 13: extreme way of what he had gone through to serve

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Speaker 13: our country.

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Speaker 5: And we wrote this song.

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Speaker 13: A veteran and for us standing up and saying we're

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Speaker 13: proud to be in a free country in the USA,

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Speaker 13: the greatest country in the world. We didn't really understand

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Speaker 13: what could be political about that, But that's somebody else's opinion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, wayward opinion, I would add, but that's just

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Speaker 2: my opinion.

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Speaker 1: What made you want to write the song?

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Speaker 10: Well, we've always wanted to write a patriotic song, and

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Speaker 10: it just so happens. We got in the room with

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Speaker 10: a couple guys and it turned out that one of

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Speaker 10: them was Afghan He served in Afghanistan. He's a veteran

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Speaker 10: in the mid two thousands, and we were like, what

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Speaker 10: a perfect opportunity to write something that kind of gets

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Speaker 10: his perspective in it. And we've always wanted to do this.

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Speaker 10: Let's go ahead and take a stab at it. So

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Speaker 10: somebody had the idea of writing a song called True Colors,

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Speaker 10: and we was like, that fits perfectly with this the theme,

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Speaker 10: and so we wrote the song and after we were

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Speaker 10: finished with it, we've just made a voice memo on

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Speaker 10: our phone and we're like, man.

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Speaker 1: We think this is pretty cool. It sounds pretty good.

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Speaker 5: We feel good about this one.

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Speaker 10: So we sent it directly over to our friend John

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Speaker 10: Rich and he immediately takes back that he loved it,

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Speaker 10: and we asked if he'd be willing to produce it

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Speaker 10: for us, and he said yeah, and it just kind

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Speaker 10: of took off from there. Is a great time getting

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Speaker 10: to spend some time in the studio with him and

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Speaker 10: learn from him, and he's just been a great mentor

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Speaker 10: through this whole process.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Listen.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a professional marketer, but I got to say,

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Speaker 2: next year, with the what is it sem Semi Seskua

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Speaker 2: Centennial happening next year, I feel like this would be

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Speaker 2: a perfect theme song for everything happening in our two

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Speaker 2: hundred and fiftieth year. Hearing your story, you know, I

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Speaker 2: know that we have a lot of audience members who

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Speaker 2: they don't know about you and your music already. They're

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Speaker 2: going to want to support you. What's the best way

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Speaker 2: that they can support you? Should they call this TV station.

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Speaker 2: Just just more downloads and streams of your music, follow

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Speaker 2: you on social media?

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Speaker 1: What's the best way?

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Speaker 13: I think the best way is just to continued.

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Speaker 5: We've received so much support.

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Speaker 13: We've never had a song on this chart that we

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Speaker 13: just reached number one on and so the support and

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Speaker 13: outpouring of love from everybody this past week has just

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Speaker 13: been incredible. Has changed our lives really, so we just

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Speaker 13: want to focus on the positive.

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Speaker 5: We love our country.

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Speaker 13: We want people to download the song, enjoy the song

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Speaker 13: blasted all summer long while you're out on the lake

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Speaker 13: or wherever you're at, and just be proud to be

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Speaker 13: in this country. And that would be the greatest thing

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Speaker 13: for us. And then also just stand up for what

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Speaker 13: you believe in. And it would have been really easy

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Speaker 13: for us to just give in and go ahead and

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Speaker 13: do the show, but thankfully we had some people around

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Speaker 13: us that just gave us the courage to say, you

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Speaker 13: know what, we're going to stand for what we believe in,

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Speaker 13: and if we don't get promotion because of it, then

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Speaker 13: that promotion wouldn't be worth sacrificing what we stand for.

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Speaker 13: So I think just go download stream the song that

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Speaker 13: would make us so happy and we appreciate the support.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it Stephan Jordan Dougger.

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Speaker 2: Everybody go check out their song True Colors by the

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Speaker 2: Dugger Band. Go support them and show them some love.

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Speaker 2: It is so great to have people in the creative

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Speaker 2: communities standing up and showing courage in the face of

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Speaker 2: this anti American garbage and the yeah, they're doing a

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Speaker 2: great job. All right, everybody coming up, Doctor Carol Swain

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Speaker 2: is going to join us to talk more about the

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Speaker 2: problems in American higher education.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you there are a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: We'll be with that.

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Speaker 2: After this.

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Speaker 8: Googling.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 2: A lot going on in higher education in America today,

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Speaker 2: and we've now learned that more than fifty universities are

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Speaker 2: under investigation by the Trump administration for DEI practices that

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Speaker 2: are allegedly still being used. So joining us now to

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Speaker 2: talk about all of that and more. Former tenured professor

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Speaker 2: at Vanderbilt, she is also the author of a book

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Speaker 2: about the Clauding gay scandal at Harvard. It is titled

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Speaker 2: The Gay Affair, Harvard, Plagiarism and the Death of Academic

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Speaker 2: Integrity dot com. Carol Swain, doctor Swain, Thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for being here.

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Speaker 1: My pleasure.

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Speaker 2: You know, I went to a different SEC school, and

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Speaker 2: I don't regret it.

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Speaker 1: I don't regret it all going to Auburn.

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Speaker 2: But I wish that I could have audited your class

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Speaker 2: and been in your classroom when you were there. That

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Speaker 2: would have been such an amazing experience. I feel like

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Speaker 2: I learned so much from you every time you're here.

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Speaker 2: I want to start with your book. Actually, because some

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Speaker 2: people might not necessarily know your connection to Claudine Gay,

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Speaker 2: the connection that she created by basically stealing from you.

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Speaker 1: Tell everybody about it.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 14: Back in nineteen ninety three, I published a prize winning book.

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Speaker 14: It won three national prizes, was cited by the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 14: It was it is type of black basis, black interests

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Speaker 14: the representation of African Americans. In Congress December of twenty

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Speaker 14: twenty three, I was notified. I found out, along with

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Speaker 14: the rest of the world, that twenty six years ago

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Speaker 14: Claudine Gay, who was then president of Harvard University, had

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Speaker 14: pleasurized much of her work, including my prize winning book,

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Speaker 14: and most of the people that she pilfered.

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Speaker 1: From were progressive. So they said, oh, it's okay.

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Speaker 14: It's fine with me. But in my case, it was

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Speaker 14: not okay because my argument is that there would not

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Speaker 14: have been a dissertation a lot of the pleasurism occurred

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Speaker 14: in her dissertation had it not been for my prize

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Speaker 14: winning book. And so my book is about holding Claudine

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Speaker 14: Gay and Harvard University accountable, hoping that other institutions that

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Speaker 14: have sheltered pleasurists on that faculty that they too will

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Speaker 14: raise the academic standards for faculty as well as students.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Swaine.

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Speaker 2: I want to get into this investigation because it is

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Speaker 2: now the policy of the Trump administration that race and

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Speaker 2: other immuseable characteristics should not play into students' admission their

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Speaker 2: ability to excel on the university campus oor K through

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Speaker 2: twelve for that matter.

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Speaker 1: But we're talking about higher education here.

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Speaker 2: And yet it sounds like a lot of universities are

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Speaker 2: still doing it.

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Speaker 14: Let them continue, because they're setting themselves up for civil

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Speaker 14: rights lawsuits that will be won by the plaintiffs. President

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Speaker 14: Trump on January twenty twentieth and twenty first he signed

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Speaker 14: executive orders one ending DEI in federal programs federally supported programs,

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Speaker 14: the second one ended sixty years.

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Speaker 5: Of affirmative action.

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Speaker 14: He overturned Johnson's nineteen sixty five executive order instituting race

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Speaker 14: based affirmative action. And so right now the colleges and

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Speaker 14: universities are on weak grounds. They can engage in what

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Speaker 14: they may see as civil disobedience. Let them go ahead

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Speaker 14: and continue to what they're doing and trying to keep

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Speaker 14: it under the radar. Some of them have been openly defiant.

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Speaker 14: They will pay the consequences, and the students, the faculty,

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Speaker 14: of the staff will hold them accountable.

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Speaker 2: An alumni, because if I heard about this happening at

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Speaker 2: Auburn University, any dollar that I ever considered sending there,

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Speaker 2: I would yank back immediately. I want to ask you

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Speaker 2: about the repercussions of these types of programs, and now

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Speaker 2: that it is supposedly policy that this shouldn't be happening,

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Speaker 2: I want to look back on what has happened in

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Speaker 2: the past, because I think that it has been a really,

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Speaker 2: really severe damage to higher education when you admit students

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Speaker 2: based on the.

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Speaker 1: Color of their skin.

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Speaker 2: And we know, I mean there was obviously the big

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Speaker 2: lawsuit with Asian Americans, but Asians and whites seem to

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Speaker 2: get the short end of the stick when it comes

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Speaker 2: to higher education because they want to fill these quotas.

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Speaker 2: And I understand wanting to have diversity on campus, but

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Speaker 2: when you force it, that doesn't work out well for anybody.

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Speaker 1: I don't think.

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Speaker 5: I can tell you that.

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Speaker 14: I believe, in fact, I will have an updated version

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Speaker 14: of the adversity of diversity and the title will be

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Speaker 14: diversity without discrimination.

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Speaker 5: How to build a culture.

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Speaker 14: Of unity in a postdi affirmative action world. I believe

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Speaker 14: that you can have diversity, and I think about myself

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Speaker 14: and just millions of people that came through after the

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Speaker 14: passage of the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act. The

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Speaker 14: purpose of that Civil rights legislation was to prohibit discrimination

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Speaker 14: on the basis of race, sex, national origin, religion.

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Speaker 1: And what you find is that affirmative action through the.

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Speaker 14: Executive order, that all of that has been legitimized tolerated

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Speaker 14: over sixty decades. They have always violated the equal protection

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Speaker 14: clause of the fourteenth Amendment and the diversity there has

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Speaker 14: always been diversity. But what the Civil Rights legislation did

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Speaker 14: was to encourage institutions to advertise jobs to go to

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Speaker 14: places where there were groups that were underrepresented to seek

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Speaker 14: the most talented ones. You had equal opportunity. I had

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Speaker 14: an equal opportunity to compete. I could have failed. You

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Speaker 14: have an equal opportunity to fail. Diversity, equity, and inclusion

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Speaker 14: is about equity, equal results. People come in, they get

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Speaker 14: the same results regardless of how heart they work. And

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Speaker 14: when colleges and universities decided they had to have a

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Speaker 14: certain quote of blacks and Hispanics and holding down Asians

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Speaker 14: and whites, that kind of discrimination always violated the laws.

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Speaker 14: You will now have lily white institutions. If you uphold

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Speaker 14: the laws of the land. You may not get the

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Speaker 14: percentages that you're getting today, but you will have diversity.

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Speaker 14: And proof of it is that the media they've highlighted

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Speaker 14: a couple of black students recently. One had a sixteen

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Speaker 14: hundred on his SAT. He got admitted to Harvard on

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Speaker 14: the merits. And there are black high achievers, high achievers

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Speaker 14: in every race and ethnicity. Those are the ones that

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Speaker 14: need to be at the most elite institutions. And so

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Speaker 14: you're not it's racist in fact to say that you

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Speaker 14: will have lily white institutions if you hold people to standards.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's so racist and they don't even get it.

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: And like you said, they may not have the same

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Speaker 2: percentages that they claim they want now, but I bet

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Speaker 2: you if they hire based on merit or they admit

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Speaker 2: based on merit, that the percentages will reflect the population

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Speaker 2: at home. And I think that that's the fairest way

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Speaker 2: of figuring out how this all breaks down. To begin

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Speaker 2: with Gerrel Swain, author of the book The Gay Affair,

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Speaker 2: Harvard Plagiarism and the Death of Academic Integrity. Everybody please

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Speaker 2: go out and check out that book. Thank you, doctor Swain.

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Speaker 2: And I look very forward to that book that you're

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Speaker 2: talking about. I got to get that dated version, all right, everybody,

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Speaker 2: After the break, the president of the New Tolerance Campaign,

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Speaker 2: Gregory Angelo, is going to be here to discuss the

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Speaker 2: new information on CARE, the Council on American Islamic Relations.

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Speaker 1: And just who is funding them. That's sense. Welcome back, everybody, boy.

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Speaker 2: We got a story for you now on CARE, the

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Speaker 2: Council on American Islamic Relations. They recently settled a lawsuit

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Speaker 2: rather than disclose its sources of funding.

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Speaker 1: And the reason.

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Speaker 2: Why that may be an issue is because CARE has

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Speaker 2: also been accused of links to h terror organization. Come us, yeah,

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Speaker 2: joining us now to discuss is just what is happening here?

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Speaker 2: The president of the New Tolerance Campaign, Gregory Angelo.

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Speaker 1: Gregory, great to see my friend.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for having me back, Amanda.

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Speaker 1: How did you catch wind at this?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 15: It was really an underreported story. Thankfully the New York

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Speaker 15: Post covered it. But stories a little complex. Let me

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Speaker 15: outline the contours for your viewers this evening. So the

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Speaker 15: Council for American Islamic Relations CARE as notoriously had its

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Speaker 15: founding linked to individuals who had strong ties with the

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Speaker 15: Muslim Brotherhood, and those ties have DOGCARE for years.

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Speaker 5: But flash ahead to.

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Speaker 15: Twenty twenty one where NPR, which is not exactly known

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Speaker 15: as a far right news outlet, published an explosive expose

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Speaker 15: talking about how there is a culture of misogyny, sexual harassment,

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Speaker 15: religious discrimination, and intra religious discrimination like Muslim on Muslim

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Speaker 15: discrimination within care's company culture, and that poison went from

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Speaker 15: CARES national chapters all across the country and straight to

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Speaker 15: their national headquarter orders in Washington, d C. There was

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Speaker 15: an individual, a whistleblower, a female employee, former employee who

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Speaker 15: stepped forward basically corroborating those things, talking about the fact

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Speaker 15: that Care was indeed guilty of pushing this sexual harassment, misogyny,

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Speaker 15: et cetera in the ranks of its employees.

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Speaker 5: She was sued by Care.

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Speaker 15: For defamation, and thankfully she didn't back down. She held

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Speaker 15: firm and basically got to a point where she said,

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Speaker 15: Care is going to have to open the books in

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Speaker 15: order to adequately defend themselves, opening the books, by the way,

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Speaker 15: which would reveal who cares.

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Speaker 5: Sources of funding were.

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Speaker 15: So rather than take that extra step, Care decided to

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Speaker 15: drop their lawsuit with prejudice, I might add, which means

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Speaker 15: they can't bring it again later. Now, the great news

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Speaker 15: is the woman who was sued by Care still stood

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Speaker 15: firm and pushed back again and filed her own defamation

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Speaker 15: lawsuit against Care, saying that not only was Care pushing

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Speaker 15: this culture of sexual harassm misogyny, and religious discrimination, but

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Speaker 15: they have been receiving funds from organizations and individuals abroad,

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Speaker 15: funds that even Care's own board of directors are not

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Speaker 15: aware that the organization has been receiving. So Care said

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Speaker 15: that they were going to push ahead with defending that lawsuit,

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Speaker 15: and a judge said, well, in order to do discovery

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Speaker 15: on this, we are going to have to look into

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Speaker 15: where care sources of funding are. Rather than take that step,

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Speaker 15: Care decided to settle the case with this individual.

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Speaker 1: We know how.

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Speaker 15: It's a pattern here, and it's one that goes back

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Speaker 15: even to two thousand and four. Care was Care suit

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Speaker 15: a website anti care dot com. It's still up online

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Speaker 15: and once again the individual who was sued stood firm

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Speaker 15: and Care if they were going to proceed with that lawsuit,

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Speaker 15: would have had to open the books on their funders.

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Speaker 5: Once again, Care.

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Speaker 15: Decided that they would drop that lawsuit rather than open

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Speaker 15: the books on who their funders are.

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Speaker 2: What is the typical price tag of silence for Care?

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Speaker 2: What do they pay for these settlements?

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Speaker 15: I'm not sure they're always undisclosed amount, right, But here's

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Speaker 15: the interesting thing. I mean, Care, if you look at

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Speaker 15: their nine nineties, these are the forms that they file

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Speaker 15: with the IRS every year.

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Speaker 5: Care has millions and millions of dollars.

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Speaker 15: And to be clear, as an organization that has five

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Speaker 15: oh one C three nonprofit status in the United States,

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Speaker 15: they're not obligated to reveal their sources of funding. But

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Speaker 15: let's just say that it seems like where there's smoke,

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Speaker 15: there's fire here, and every time care is pushed by

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Speaker 15: the law to reveal their sources of funding, they end

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Speaker 15: up backing down. We have individuals throughout the halls of

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Speaker 15: Congress that are alerted to the suspicions around care right

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Speaker 15: now as well. Congressman Gottheimer, a Democrat from New Jersey,

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Speaker 15: again not exactly a far right extremist, has called for

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Speaker 15: a congressional investigation into Care. You have Congressman pussed Off,

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Speaker 15: a Republican from Tennessee, who has a piece of legislation

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Speaker 15: that would remove of tax exempt status from any US

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Speaker 15: based nonprofit that is found to have ties and is

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Speaker 15: supporting terrorist organizations abroad. This is something that I think

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Speaker 15: deserves a lot more attention in the media, and even

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Speaker 15: just today there was a story that came out in

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Speaker 15: the New York Post that said Department of Justice funds

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Speaker 15: that were given to care in order to help migrants

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Speaker 15: in California have ended up going missing. They were distributed

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Speaker 15: to carer's Los Angeles affiliate, which is not a registered nonprofit,

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Speaker 15: and no one knows where the money went after that.

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Speaker 15: Did it go to carers national headquarters? Was it basically

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Speaker 15: put into a slush fund, and these are taxpayer funds

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Speaker 15: and this is a Department of Justice grants. So you know,

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Speaker 15: I think people with a nose for news, like you

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Speaker 15: and John and other people in journalism, I think can

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Speaker 15: really look into this because it seems it's something that

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Speaker 15: really needs to be gotten to the bottom of.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I feel like that's something that does is going

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Speaker 2: to have an eye on thanks to you getting this

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Speaker 2: word out there. Council on American Islamic Relations, it sounds

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Speaker 2: like a really nice agency and agency that would want

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Speaker 2: to blend the interests of the West and Islam. But

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Speaker 2: here's the I feel like just a very obvious question,

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Speaker 2: why would a terrorist group want to fund CARE?

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Speaker 15: Well, just CARES pushing its own covert agenda. CARE rather

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Speaker 15: notoriously has pushed anti Semitic tropes since its founding. The

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Speaker 15: Anti Defamation League has an entire page on its website

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Speaker 15: dedicated to CARES transgressions when it comes to pushing anti Semitism.

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Speaker 15: And I say ADL once again not exactly a far

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Speaker 15: right nonprofit, And so you know, care's anti Semitic history

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Speaker 15: is something that has been long on the radar, even

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Speaker 15: just two years ago, Care was banned from the Biden

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Speaker 15: White House after their current executive director said he was

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Speaker 15: quote happy to see twelve hundred innocent Israeli civilians slaughtered

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Speaker 15: on October seventh, twenty twenty three. I mean, if even

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Speaker 15: Joe Biden is banning them from the White House, you

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Speaker 15: know that something's wrong with this group.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very low bar. Yeah, they have a

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Speaker 1: rich history of hate.

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Speaker 2: I think that's probably the best phrase to uphemize they

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Speaker 2: that the way that they operate. Gregory Angelo, the president

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Speaker 2: of the New Tolerance Campaign, Everybody go check out their organization.

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Speaker 1: They do a lot of great work, Gregory, you do.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: All Right, everybody, We're going to talk about what else

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Speaker 2: the Trump administration can cut from government to save some money.

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Speaker 2: And one big place that starts is the Department of Defense.

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Speaker 2: Back everybody. Yesterday, John and I spoke to the president

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Speaker 2: of the National Taxpayers Union, Pete step about an area

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Speaker 2: of the government that has a whole heck of a

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Speaker 2: lot of waste and abuse. To cut the Department of Defense.

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Speaker 1: Take a look.

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Speaker 9: Joining someone who was fashionably early on the fight to

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Speaker 9: create the savings in our government years and years before

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Speaker 9: Doge and Congress finally came to it. Census, the president

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Speaker 9: of the National Taxpayer's Union, Pete Sett was fighting to

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Speaker 9: save American taxpayer. He has finally gotten the rest of

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Speaker 9: Washington to follow his ways. He's joining us right now.

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Speaker 1: Pete. Great to have you back on the show.

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Speaker 5: A pleasure as always.

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Speaker 9: I think I came to Washington run around the time

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Speaker 9: that you and NTA were together. It's been a thirty

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Speaker 9: thirty five year journey of trillions of dollars wasted. But

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Speaker 9: finally there's a moment. This guy must is guy Trump

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Speaker 9: and a couple of Congress people. Maybe we're going to

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Speaker 9: cut a little bit of government. Tell us what you

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Speaker 9: think the reasonable ambition is for what will be saved

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Speaker 9: by the end of this year.

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Speaker 16: I think the reasonable goal is something on the order

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Speaker 16: of two hundred and fifty maybe five hundred billion dollars.

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Speaker 5: So let me tell you it is.

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Speaker 16: The most refreshing thing in my entire thirty five year

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Speaker 16: career that we're all sitting here debating how much savings

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Speaker 16: will be rather than whether there'll be any at all.

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Speaker 16: And we need to start with so many areas in government,

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Speaker 16: it's difficult to know where but I can tell you

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Speaker 16: there is none more of a dysfunctional agency than the

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Speaker 16: Department of Defense. Start along with the Internal Revenue Service,

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Speaker 16: but Department of Defense has to top that list primarily

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Speaker 16: because the expenditure is so much more than the IRS,

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Speaker 16: virtually any other federal agency outside of the ones that

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Speaker 16: administer social security and medicare.

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Speaker 2: And for our viewers, I just want to articulate some

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Speaker 2: of these expenditures. Air Force spent virtually two million for

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Speaker 2: holistic DEI transformation and training, six million to the University

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Speaker 2: of montanaa strength and American democracy by bridging divides at

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Speaker 2: the Defense Human Resources Activity, three point nine million to

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Speaker 2: support DEI groups, one point six million to the University

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Speaker 2: of Florida to study social institutional detriment of vulnerability in

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Speaker 2: resis billience to climate hazards in African Say, oh, what

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Speaker 2: does that even mean?

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Speaker 1: How much more of this is there? Because those are

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Speaker 1: just highlights billions worth.

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Speaker 16: I mean the Defense Department, with Sean Parnell, announced about

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Speaker 16: eighty million dollars worth of that waste at the Pentagon.

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Speaker 16: There is easily one hundred times that much that could

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Speaker 16: be uncovered with very little effort. I mean, John remembers

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Speaker 16: these names don Lambeau as Smier, I mean, those were

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Speaker 16: from all these.

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Speaker 9: Place I used to comfort as a young AP reporter

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Speaker 9: in Wisconsin. Everybody, that's all I first gone.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, And it just goes on and on. And we're

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Speaker 16: not only talking about your garden variety bad contracts, or

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Speaker 16: paying fifteen hundred dollars for reheatable coffee cups that go

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Speaker 16: on the Air Force's aircraft, or paying five thousand dollars

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Speaker 16: for a bolt. I mean, we're also talking about entire

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Speaker 16: weapon and systems that need to be scrutinized here. When

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Speaker 16: you think about the new Sentinel ballistic missile program eighty

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Speaker 16: one percent over budget. You think about the F thirty

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Speaker 16: five fighter, a great disappointment in performance and being on schedule. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 16: that's a two trillion with a T dollar program over

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Speaker 16: its lifetime. There's something called the Littoral Combat Ship, a

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Speaker 16: lightship that was supposed to operate off coastal waters. Primarily

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Speaker 16: that project cost over fifty billion with a B dollars.

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Speaker 16: The Navy actually wants to retire most of the ships

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Speaker 16: early because they're not very seaworthy. So this just goes

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Speaker 16: on and on not only the silly examples of the

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Speaker 16: toilet seats that Senator Proxmier used to bring up thirty

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Speaker 16: five odd years ago, but they're basically innately wasteful, low

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Speaker 16: priority weapons that we are spending tens of billions a

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Speaker 16: year on annually. It's no wonder that the Government Accountability

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Speaker 16: Office has put no fewer than five areas of Pentagon spending,

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Speaker 16: including the entire contracting and weapons systems acquisition operations, on

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Speaker 16: their High Risk list for waste, fraud and abuse. And

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Speaker 16: in fact, some of it's been on there since that

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Speaker 16: list was started in nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 9: Graciously, it's insane, just insane. There's always demagoguury that goes

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Speaker 9: to this, and the demagogury that the Pentagon will says, Oh,

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Speaker 9: you're putting our men and women on the front lines

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Speaker 9: of war in danger.

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Speaker 1: How do we overcome that?

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Speaker 9: To get the focus on the truth of the matter

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Speaker 9: is if we get this right, we're going to do

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Speaker 9: a better job protecting our men and women's future.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, there's that old saying about being counters in the military.

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Speaker 16: An army that doesn't count its beans soon starves.

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Speaker 5: And that's what happens here.

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Speaker 16: Careless accounting leads to careless supply chains, careless logistics management,

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Speaker 16: and that shows up on the battlefield when the right

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Speaker 16: things don't get there on time to supply our troops

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Speaker 16: and people get hurt because of that. So fiscal responsibility

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Speaker 16: is important. Government waste occurs everywhere, whether it's a bureaucrat

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Speaker 16: in a suit or a general in a uniform. A

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Speaker 16: lot has to be done at the Defense Department.

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Speaker 5: We've got to.

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Speaker 16: Have contracting reform. We've got to knock out these cost

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Speaker 16: plus contracts and have fixed price. We've got a fire

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Speaker 16: contract officers who are doing a bad job. We've got

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Speaker 16: to ban contractors who routinely overcharged taxpayers. That's just on

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Speaker 16: the executive branch side. Then Congress has to get into

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Speaker 16: the act of trying to control the big ticket weapons

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Speaker 16: systems and the spending on those. You know, it's great

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Speaker 16: that they're thinking about this right now, but we don't

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Speaker 16: just want to play allow these savings into more overpriced,

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Speaker 16: underperforming weapons. We got to reduce the deficit too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Pete, before we let you go, Americans have been

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Speaker 2: forced to just grow accustomed to the excuse that the Pentagon.

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Speaker 1: Just just doesn't perform well. In audits.

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Speaker 2: We have not met an audit properly in what eight cycles.

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Speaker 2: I believe you will if you do with these superfluous

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Speaker 2: exploit expenditures, does that remove the excuses?

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Speaker 16: It helps to remove the excuses, But there just has

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Speaker 16: to be an overall attitude shift that every single dollar

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Speaker 16: wasted on military expenditures means that troops in the field

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Speaker 16: suffer and taxpayers suffer. It was Mike Mullen, one of

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Speaker 16: the former Joint chiefs, who said that the national debt

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Speaker 16: was the greatest threat to our national security when he

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Speaker 16: said that our national debt was about thirteen trillion dollars.

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Speaker 16: Now it's about thirty six. Let's get a move on

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Speaker 16: and take care of this waste.

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Speaker 9: He is someone who's been here most of the time.

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Speaker 9: You've been in Washington thirty four of those thirty five years.

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Speaker 9: You never relented in this battle, and your country owes

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Speaker 9: you a great debt of gratitude because you kept fighting.

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Speaker 9: And that moment is finally here. We're going to make

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Speaker 9: a difference for the first time in a very long time.

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Speaker 9: Congratulations and thank you for joining us tonight.

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Speaker 5: Always a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Take care all right, everybody.

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Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed that very important conversation, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I feel like what Doge is doing.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about this the other day.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody has seen Bar Rescue, but

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Speaker 2: anytime somebody goes in for that show, nobody at the

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Speaker 2: restaurant is happy that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Is getting cleaned out. That's kind of what Doje is doing.

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Speaker 1: It's like Bar Rescue.

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Speaker 2: They're going in nobody, none of the employees are happy

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Speaker 2: that it's happening.

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Speaker 1: But it's going to be good for everyone in the end.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's all the time we have for tonight.

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Speaker 2: John's going to be back here on Monday with me

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Speaker 2: and we will see you then at six pm Eastern.

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Speaker 1: On Real America's Voice. That a great weekend.