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Speaker 1: we're fans of West Ham but we're going to Tottenham

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Speaker 2: Thank you for yourself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know why I'm a West Ham fan.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you're with me.

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Speaker 3: He gave me a jersey. He gave me a jersey.

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Speaker 1: So you know when I was saying I needed a

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Speaker 2: Well, LA's I come.

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Speaker 4: I'm an Arsenal fan because years ago I went over

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Speaker 4: there in one of the teams. I think the Falcons

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Speaker 4: were practicing at Arsenal. They were very nice to me

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Speaker 1: Now I should have mentioned we're here in the Chris

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Speaker 1: Westleying podcast studio with Steve Weish and Patrick Claypon.

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Speaker 3: But you know that already.

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Speaker 1: It's the it's the preview show crew, it's the previous

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Speaker 1: show career. And yes, I don't know if I mentioned

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Speaker 1: officially on the show, but I am heading over you're

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Speaker 1: covering the game for NFL Network and CBS.

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Speaker 2: I'll be on the sidelines.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty exciting.

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Speaker 2: Stacy Dale's here for the Bears, yes, and.

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Speaker 1: So I will be there for Bears Jags as well.

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Speaker 1: Keep listening to this podcast because I think we might

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Speaker 1: try to do a little bit of a meetup when

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Speaker 1: I tape my preview show.

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Speaker 3: Just in one week.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be taping it at the Bears Bar if

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Speaker 1: everything goes goes according to plan. The Bears have an

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Speaker 1: official team bar, and yeah we might. We might let

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Speaker 1: the listeners know, but we've got to make sure it's lockdown.

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Speaker 1: For now, we're focused on Vikings, Jets and all the

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Speaker 1: other you know, Week five games.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and it's so much fun to look forward to.

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Speaker 5: We're going from smallest to the biggest spread. Yeah this week,

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Speaker 5: but we start where everything will start on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: It is the red hot Sam Donald, what here? It is?

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Speaker 5: Minnesota Vikings a two and a half point favorite against

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers and the Jets, who scored nine points. It

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Speaker 5: was a miss Greg the leg field goal from fifty

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Speaker 5: to give the Denver Broncos the win at MetLife. Concerns

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Speaker 5: and consternation abound in New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: Greg, absolutely, with this matchup coming up and you're coming

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Speaker 1: off a game where the Broncos really tested your protection.

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Speaker 1: It's not just the cadence that was the problem. It

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Speaker 1: was where are these rushers coming from on that Denver

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Speaker 1: Broncos defense. They lead the league in blitz right, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know who's number two and sends even maybe more

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Speaker 1: problems that will mess with your mind. It is the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings Olo Fashion, who got his first start at

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Speaker 1: which had been playing well but had a step up

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Speaker 1: in competition last week and suddenly wasn't playing well. They're

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Speaker 1: young player Joe Tipman in the middle too. Now you

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Speaker 1: got to deal with this Minnesota crew and get this

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you got Jonathon Grenard, you know Alex Van Ginkle,

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Speaker 4: these guys coming off the edges. What's interesting to me too,

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Speaker 4: when this is a huge game for the Jets. It

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Speaker 4: significant stretch because after this they play the Bills, they

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Speaker 4: play the Steelers, then the Patriots and Texans. Right, if

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Speaker 4: they don't get a win, right, here, it could get

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Speaker 4: a little greasy, Patrick for the Jets. I like the

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Speaker 4: Vikings in this game, not only with the points, not

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Speaker 4: only because of like what you said. Defensively, they're just

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Speaker 4: finding their groove. I mean, I just think offensively, with

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Speaker 4: your boy, with your favorite player, Sam Darnold, Greg your

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Speaker 4: favorite quarterback on Quarterback Island, they've got it working. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Aaron Jones gives them options in the backfield. He's throwing

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Speaker 5: And they've got Justin Jefferson, right, They've got other players yet, Okay,

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Speaker 5: Sauce Gardner and Justin Jefferson JJ's not going to care.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't care.

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Speaker 4: So I really do like this game, and like you,

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Speaker 4: like I was saying, if the Jets don't win this,

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Justin Jefferson actually had one of the sauciest quotes of

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Speaker 5: the season. It was referend it's in a Jet because

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Speaker 5: people were asking that, you know, the forty nine ers

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Speaker 5: and he said, with all due respect, I'm not Garrett Wilson,

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Speaker 5: with all due respect, and so like I guess whenever

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Speaker 5: somebody says all due respect, it is all right, Well,

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Speaker 5: you're about to tell me how much respect is actually doing.

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers the third highest rate in the NFL in

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Speaker 2: It's going to need to do that.

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Speaker 5: It didn't necessarily help against the Denver Broncos, as you mentioned, Greg,

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Speaker 5: and that leads me because we have to discussion every week.

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Speaker 5: I know it's early in the show. We have our

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Speaker 5: concerns about the Jets.

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Speaker 3: Oh, he go to do it?

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Speaker 5: We believe in the Minnesota Viking. Are we doing it?

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Speaker 5: Should we make this our survivor pick for.

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Speaker 3: Wow, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I know Jets have been on fraud Watch, there have

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Speaker 1: been for you, and I suddenly was convinced Rogers is

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Speaker 3: I actually stand by the point Rogers playing well. I

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Speaker 3: don't know you the issue last week.

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Speaker 1: But when their defense and when their offense had play

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Speaker 1: like a much tougher opposition, and then the step up

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Speaker 1: in competition for their defense this week. Because if you

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Speaker 1: think about who the Jets defense has played lately, Broncos, Coriatriots, Titans,

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Speaker 1: those are like the three worst offenses in the league.

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Speaker 1: Just about and now you have to make this step

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Speaker 1: up Aaron Jones against this run defense. Aaron Jos like

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Speaker 1: I'd got washed out last week. A lot of Will

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Speaker 1: at him. Even with Javonte Williams, who had been struggling

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Speaker 1: that I would pick the Vikings as a survivor pick.

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Speaker 4: So I'm in, WHOA. I mean, wow, you got me,

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Speaker 4: you got me. You know, here's a player for the Vikings.

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Speaker 5: Here's a player for the Vikings too that I think

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Speaker 5: we don't talk about the Gilly Lock Okay, Finn Gilmore.

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Speaker 2: I mean this guy is he's playing why he's a

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Speaker 4: I just think Aaron Rodgers is. Yeah, he's gonna continue

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Speaker 4: playing well. But they're just not enough there. They don't score.

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Speaker 3: Can we get can we get Garrett Wilson going there?

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Speaker 1: There are some stats that have him in the top

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Speaker 3: What am I missing?

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Speaker 1: I look, I took him, I think like seventeenth overall

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Speaker 1: in my fantasy drafts. That's definitely not going well. Neither's

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Speaker 2: But I hope he gets moved soon.

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Speaker 1: Allen Lazard's leading this team in catches and Garrett Wilson,

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Speaker 1: who is explosive, is under ten yards per catch, and

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Speaker 1: can I read the Garrett Wilson quotes, I'm actually kind

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Speaker 3: These didn't get more attention.

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Speaker 1: Instead, we're on Cadence Gate all week and Garrett Wilson,

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Speaker 1: their best receiver, literally said, I don't think we do

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Speaker 1: a lot of different stuff. To be honest, I watch

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Speaker 1: surprised that I didn't get more more pop. That was,

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Speaker 5: I think Bart Scott, well, it depends on where you

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Speaker 5: Apparently you can have a particular coach's name in the

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Speaker 5: that coach's name must be kept out of your mouth,

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Speaker 2: Well, so that's what it is. So fun game though.

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Speaker 2: My name is Nathaniel Hackett. Thanks, it's nice to see

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Speaker 2: you out here. Oh oh that was beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And when they put this on the NFL Network schedule,

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Speaker 3: Now he got the best team in the NFL so far.

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Speaker 5: And that's what we're gonna that's what we're gonna see.

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Speaker 5: Wake up, rise, shine and watch them football. And before

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Speaker 5: the game, you can catch Game Day Kickoff starting Sunday

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Speaker 5: at seven am Eastern, and you can see Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 5: sit down with Kyle Brandt.

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Speaker 2: It's good, it's not a FaceTime interview.

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Speaker 5: They are literally face to fix and you can see

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Speaker 5: that right before the game kicks off. Looking forward to

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Speaker 5: that game, of course, always looking forward to NFL Network games.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to.

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Speaker 5: The Buffalo Bills at the Houston Texans. The Bills favored

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Speaker 4: Now we look at this like, these are two teams

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Speaker 4: times they play tough teams they get Both teams got dragged.

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Speaker 4: So this is an intriguing game when you look at

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Speaker 3: Look at you, right, I love the time.

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Speaker 4: a little bit more traction in their identity. I know defensively,

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Speaker 2: Larry M. Tunsel, I mean, he's just mister mister penalty man.

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Speaker 3: Multiple penalties every game this year.

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Speaker 1: that's where the bill want to win. And yet I

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Speaker 3: Little bit more. If I had to pick it, I'd

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Speaker 1: And it's a really good Bills offensive line, so that's

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Speaker 5: Big part of that stretch where the Bills were dominating everybody.

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Speaker 5: But and then the concerns upfront for Buffalo where the Ravens,

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Speaker 5: I'm also because Nico Collins leading the entire league. He's

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Speaker 3: Even when he's pressured, he looks good.

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Speaker 5: My concern with the Buffalo Bills offense was when the

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Speaker 5: just balls down the sideline back shoulders to Kean Coleman

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Speaker 1: The weird thing was the run game kind of was working,

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Speaker 3: But yes, they went away from it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the game script kind of got away from him

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Speaker 2: You know, it's fun stuff, but they can't they can't

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Speaker 4: The Texas got the corners to handle their outside targets,

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Speaker 1: This is the location of what I think was the

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Speaker 3: Was the playoff game against the Texans.

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Speaker 1: That was actually the moment where everyone and I admit

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Speaker 1: I couldn't have been more wrong about Josh Allen spike

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Speaker 3: It was just like it's never gonna happen Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: Guys like, look at this guy and now look at

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Speaker 5: Was that the weird like ten yards down the field

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was all sorts of things in that game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we love it.

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Speaker 5: Keep trying to make plays. Always must see TV again,

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Speaker 5: one of the best at least. However, many people you

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Speaker 2: To watch right about now.

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Speaker 5: It is the Miami Dolphins at the New England Patriots,

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Speaker 2: Of thirty and a half points. As it was.

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Speaker 5: The start to the Tyler Huntley aero Steve was was exciting,

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Speaker 2: It was bad.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Snoop Huntley had been there for like eight days.

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Speaker 4: I actually think Miami's gonna play a lot better in

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Speaker 4: this game. And I like, and this was all you

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Speaker 4: after that game he basically in a very diplomatic ways

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Speaker 1: I know, I know one of the most of it

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Speaker 1: He had a big drop. Hill had a drop and

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Speaker 3: You're right, they need their best players to play.

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Speaker 4: And I think he saw the Titans players kind of

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Speaker 1: I mean, forget cracks. This thing is busted open. We're

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Speaker 3: It's over.

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Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, they don't have their best player,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's a struggle, and it's it's a tough

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Speaker 5: he's going to have to have reconstructive knee surgery, so

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Speaker 5: he's really sad for the rest of the season. Hopefully

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Speaker 5: he's able to bounce back. But in watching New England,

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Speaker 5: game with all the stars We're back for San Francisco.

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Speaker 5: It's tough to really get a read on this Patriots team.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I think these are the two of the three worst

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Speaker 3: I think they're easy to read.

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Speaker 1: They they can't protect Jacoby last game had one of

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Speaker 2: Is this a swing game?

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Speaker 3: Is yes, he has another bad game.

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Speaker 1: It'll be his last game because last week he was

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Speaker 1: receivers were pouting. This is a big story in New England,

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Speaker 1: not not nationally because no one cares, but like Jalen

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Speaker 2: Crazy.

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Speaker 1: Wow, it's crazy. That's crazy they I mean, and I

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Speaker 1: get it. They're on their fourth left tackle. They just lost,

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Speaker 1: just keep coming up with injuries. They lost their team captain,

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Speaker 4: I won if Andrews, if this might be it for him.

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Speaker 4: He's played a long time.

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Speaker 1: He's getting up there in years. Certainly was an important

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Speaker 1: to some trade news this morning. When a guy tweets

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Speaker 1: that something like that out to you, like, so does

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Speaker 1: he know what he's doing.

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Speaker 3: He's got to know what he's doing. What does he means?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: They asked him about about where he wanted to be.

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Speaker 1: They asked about Kansas City and Miami that the reporter

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Speaker 1: is there, and he said, I want to be here.

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Speaker 1: I want to be here in Miami. So that's an

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Speaker 1: interesting thought. It's not the craziest idea if he got traded.

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Speaker 1: He's barking there behind McDaniel. You mentioned, like, I showed

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Speaker 1: me something like this is getting trouble times for not

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Speaker 1: so much McDaniel, but the above him, Chris Career. I

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Speaker 1: think long term, it's early in the season, but this

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Speaker 1: is I think the two worst teams in the Lake.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's exaggeration, right.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it? Isn't it interesting?

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Speaker 4: Though? Like people's two is as system quarterback this and

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Speaker 4: that if t comes back, are we shouldn't there saying

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Speaker 4: this stuff about them.

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Speaker 5: If he's able to play, we at least feel like

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Speaker 5: there's there's some sort of functional.

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Speaker 1: Correct correct although if it's funny, if this team was

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Speaker 1: like the Eagles, that gets a little more attention, but

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Speaker 1: it'd be a little more on the raidar. Here are

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Speaker 1: some of their scores in their last seven games. I

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Speaker 1: know we're going long on this game though, but I

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Speaker 1: find this Dolphins team fascinating.

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Speaker 3: Fifty six to nineteen.

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Speaker 1: This is where the McDaniel era started to go wrong

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Speaker 1: against the Ravens twenty six to seven.

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Speaker 3: That was the playoff loss to the Chiefs. Not pretty.

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Speaker 1: They also had a game where they only scored fourteen

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Speaker 1: points with the afc EA stup for grabs against the Bills,

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Speaker 1: and then this year thirty one to ten to have

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Speaker 1: played more than half that game, twenty four to three,

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Speaker 1: thirty one to twelve.

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Speaker 3: Those are crazy scores.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's tough. Someone will win. It's time for the

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Speaker 5: Game of the Week presented by Draft Game as the

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Speaker 5: Baltimore Ravens are a two and a half point favorite

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Speaker 5: at the Cincinnati Bengals, who did get their first win

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Speaker 5: of the season going up on the road against the

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Speaker 5: Carolina Panthers last week. The over under at fifty and

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Speaker 5: a half. Kevin Harlan and Trent Green on the call.

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Speaker 5: It should be a fun game, Greg, Yes, we've wanted

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Speaker 5: to see a healthy Joe Burrow go up against the

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Speaker 5: Ravens team. Now we finally get that opportunity.

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Speaker 1: I think it'll be a fun game, especially for you Patrick,

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Speaker 1: who you know leans a little Ravens. Sometimes analysis like

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Speaker 1: our jobs are too easy, Like what reason do we

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Speaker 1: have to think that the Bengals defense as a whole

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Speaker 1: and especially on the ground is going to stop this

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Speaker 1: mass unit of Lamar Jackson and Derek Henry Because I

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Speaker 1: don't have any this This Ravens running attack is looking

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Speaker 1: more cohesive in terms of their offensive line. We know

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Speaker 1: that two runners are just electric and I have no

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Speaker 1: faith in this Bengals defense. If we were looking for

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Speaker 1: a spicy you know, I were a pick here, I

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Speaker 1: might actually like the Ravens even better than the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with the Vikings, We'll stick with that. But

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. I feel good about the Ravens.

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Speaker 4: I just it's weird because you know, you think about

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Speaker 4: lou Anrumo, the defensive coordinat for the Bengals, and man,

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Speaker 4: this guy is so good and he's such a great

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Speaker 4: end game adjuster.

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Speaker 2: They have not figured it out.

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Speaker 4: But my thing more so is with the Ravens because

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Speaker 4: they seem to have found their identity a little bit,

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Speaker 4: and that's a dangerous thing.

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Speaker 2: Like they were figuring out.

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Speaker 4: Remember the first game against the Chiefs, Ronnie Stanley kept

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Speaker 4: the illegal alignment type of thing like that guy in

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Speaker 4: their heads.

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Speaker 2: Right. Their offensive line wasn't working first couple of games.

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Speaker 2: It was mashing.

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Speaker 4: Last week against the Bills, they were very, very impressive.

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Speaker 4: They set their identity. They are not going to get

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Speaker 4: away from that against the Cincinnati Bengals, and if they.

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Speaker 2: Do, the Bengals secondary is a little wobbly.

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Speaker 4: I mean Cam Taylor Bricks, which is crazy because he

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Speaker 4: has been a hell of a player.

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Speaker 2: He's not playing well.

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Speaker 4: We know the safeties have not been good since they

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Speaker 4: got rid of Jesse Bates a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 4: I just think this is one we're gonna see Mark

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Speaker 4: Andrews finally really get involved in a wheelhouse Isaiah likely.

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Speaker 4: I think we're gonna see some things happening in that

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Speaker 4: game as well, that part of things, and we're also

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Speaker 4: going to learn whether or not it's a sustainable thing.

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Speaker 2: Because Roger rosen Garden had his first.

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Speaker 5: Start, Yeah, last week, played well, played incredibly well for

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Speaker 5: our first first NFL start. Derek Henry goes for eighty

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Speaker 5: seven yards on the very first carry. Andrew Vorhees was out,

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Speaker 5: so they had to move Patrick mccarrye. And that shuffling

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Speaker 5: was like the greatest thing to ever happen, right, because

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Speaker 5: they were having problems on the interior of the offensive

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Speaker 5: line and everything seemed to work out in their favor.

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Speaker 5: My concern is on the outside with Jamar Chase and

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Speaker 5: T Higgins and an healthy and accurate Joe Burrow. This

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Speaker 5: this team is not too far removed from getting devanted

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Speaker 5: and yeah, as as well as been showed and the.

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Speaker 3: Bengals keep up in a shootout.

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Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be the question for them all season,

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Speaker 1: and I think against a lot of teams the answer

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Speaker 1: is yes, yeah. Against this Ravens team, which surprisingly to me, Dvoa,

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Speaker 1: which is just total efficiency, has him as the number

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Speaker 1: one passing attack and the number one rushing attack, which

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Speaker 1: is pretty wild because they've been that efficient when they

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Speaker 1: have been throwing the ball. So I trust the Ravens

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Speaker 1: defense just so much more that like, yeah, you can

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Speaker 1: get into a shootout, but your defense just really is

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Speaker 1: going to make life heart. It's gonna be good for

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Speaker 1: t Higgins and Chase's fantasy numbers and Burrows fantasy numbers

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Speaker 1: all year long. I did want to mention they had

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Speaker 1: Chris Jenkins come in last week, their rookie, and he

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Speaker 1: apparently take pretty well and the time BJ Hill is

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Speaker 1: maybe getting healthy, so that would help their Bengals defense.

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Speaker 1: But I noticed this Bengals offense, for what it's worth,

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Speaker 1: has faced the second easiest collection of defenses so far

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Speaker 1: in the entire NFL. So they've been racking up some

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Speaker 1: big numbers. This is a tougher test for them.

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Speaker 5: Yes it is. This is significantly, significantly tougher. I see

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Speaker 5: the Ravens getting better, the Bengals getting better as well.

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Speaker 5: It's it's tough to let go of the past and

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Speaker 5: those in those matchups because a lot of those guys

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Speaker 5: Lou had success with are still run.

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Speaker 3: That's sure.

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Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, they gave the Ravens everything

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Speaker 1: they could handle. Every time they get other. Last last

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Speaker 1: year game, it is a different Ravens team, but I

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Speaker 1: mean Bengals team, but they did sweep the Bengals last year.

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Speaker 1: This is a Kevin Harlan Trent Green game, so perie,

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Speaker 1: this isn't a an early ten am start. Kevin Harlan

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Speaker 1: Trent Green. Love hearing Kevin Harlan on a big game.

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Speaker 1: Kind of love to talk about a little Sunday night football.

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Speaker 1: After the break, We'll be back in a second.

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Speaker 1: Patricks with me on the Sunday night recap shows and

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Speaker 1: the way we tape it, We finished taping, and then

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Speaker 1: I race over to our film room here at NFL

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Speaker 1: Network where Chris Rose usually is and maybe MJD and

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Speaker 1: you get to watch the Sunday night football game. I

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Speaker 1: want to be racing through this recap because I want

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Speaker 1: to get to Cowboys Steelers.

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Speaker 3: I'm into this matchup.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Sunday Night football in Pittsburgh where the Steelers are

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Speaker 5: two and a half point fai against the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: It's you know, Mike Torico, Chris Collinsworth on the call,

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Speaker 5: will be waiting all day for Sunday night and Steve.

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Speaker 5: This is a offense that doesn't want to run the ball.

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Speaker 5: Can't run the ball if they if they did want

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Speaker 5: to against the number one rushing efficiency defense in all

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Speaker 5: of football.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and we know, we know how good that Pittsburgh

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Speaker 4: defense is and the Cowboys. I'm surprised this number is

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Speaker 4: only two and a half. You know, we were talking

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Speaker 4: before the show, like, Okay, you know this is what

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Speaker 4: it is. But then you think about this is Dallas.

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Speaker 4: Dallas's strength really plays into Pittsburgh strength. Pittsburgh's got more

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Speaker 4: strengths in this game against Dallas. Like you said, the

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Speaker 4: Cowboys aren't going to be able to run the football

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Speaker 4: against the Steelers. That's not going to happen. So now

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Speaker 4: Dak's going to be one dimensional. Ceedee Lambs need to

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Speaker 4: get all the attention. We know the archer is out right,

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Speaker 4: the speechter why Brandon Cooks is out is not playing

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Speaker 4: in this game?

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Speaker 2: All right? What's what's Dallas's left hand offensive?

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Speaker 1: How not to Wis's brain for coming up with the archer?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if everyone knows about the archer.

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Speaker 5: And also there was an error where he got to

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Speaker 5: fire the arrow, but then he got he got a letter,

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Speaker 5: and so he just was able to pull the arrow

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Speaker 5: back but not actually let go of it.

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Speaker 1: The friend of the show, Danny Hyphenz, made a great

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Speaker 1: point that the Buccaneers literally shoot cannons and the Patriots

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Speaker 1: shoot muskets out of guns when they score a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know the hypocritical.

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Speaker 4: There Chargers Uganians too, But I mean I'm just like, so,

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Speaker 4: what is Dallas's offensive left hand?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: What are they what are they going to go to

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Speaker 4: because they're gonna lock up, Ceedee Lamb. I mean it's

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Speaker 4: did a big Jake Ferguson great the Pittsburgh Steelers would

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Speaker 4: love that, right. I just don't see Dallas putting up

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Speaker 4: a lot of points. And Patrick, as you brought up,

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Speaker 4: no d Law, no Mica. It's already a bad run defense.

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Speaker 4: What do the Steelers do? I mean, seriously, justin fields

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Speaker 4: might have like nine passing attempts in this game.

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Speaker 1: They hope that they can get their running game a

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Speaker 1: little more consistent. I love that I saw some more

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Speaker 1: design runs and field scrambling more last week. He just

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Speaker 1: hadn't been doing it the first three weeks, and that

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Speaker 1: can get their offense juiced. Look, the Colts threw the

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Speaker 1: ball pretty well against the Steelers. I mean they have

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Speaker 1: an offensive line to do it is a Cowboys offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Can they hold up Probably not as well as the

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Speaker 1: Colts did, but they I think you can find holes

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Speaker 1: in the Steelers secondary. Patrick Queen has been struggling for

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Speaker 1: them in terms of his coverage ability. Some miscommunications there

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Speaker 1: where the players were like yelling at him each other

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Speaker 1: last week, and you think like, oh, well, everyone's just

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Speaker 1: going to focus on CD like CD is gone. I

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Speaker 1: mean CD, they should be able to figure out how

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Speaker 1: to help get him open. But they are almost last

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Speaker 1: in the league and in motion rate. There's some talk,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're back to Green Bay where everyone's complaining

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Speaker 1: about Mike McCarthy not being able to scheme players open,

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Speaker 1: And if you listen to the beat writers there on there,

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Speaker 1: it just feels like there's a little more player grumbling

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Speaker 1: that may CD and Dak aren't exactly on the same

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Speaker 1: page with their coach. They're on the same page with

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Speaker 1: each other, but not necessarily with what's going on with

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think sometimes people do a lot of

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Speaker 5: reading into sideline frustration. Losing is not fun, right, Losing

660
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 5: isn't fun.

661
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: And CD is of course used to score a lot

662
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: of points.

663
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 5: You know, this Cowboys offense has traditionally been good, and

664
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 5: a lot of that relies on Dak Prescott in his

665
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 5: ability at the line of scrimmage. But it feels like

666
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 5: the whole plane is built out of that right now,

667
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 5: and every single first down the Dallas Cowboys get, it's

668
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 5: like he's doing particle physics back here. You're right to

669
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 5: not just diagnose the defense, but he's weaving out of

670
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 5: three and four people and like getting back shoulders to

671
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 5: Jalen Tolbert, and it's just like it's hard to imagine

672
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 5: it being consistently sustainable on the road in Pittsburgh.

673
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 3: I agree. I'm I'm torn on who to pick this game.

674
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to do so, just because I think

675
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: the Steelers have their sense of flaws and their offense,

676
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: like Justin Fields is playing like a top ten to

677
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: fifteen quarterback right now, and yet the offense is still

678
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: pretty pretty rough around the edges, So that's asking a

679
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: lot out of him. I trust Dak Moore to make

680
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: more with less, but to back up what you're saying

681
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: about Dak, I love it when you have nice, nerdy

682
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: statistical backs up for points that we just see with

683
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: their eyes. So everything seems hard for this Cowboy offense.

684
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are first or last, depending on how you

685
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: look at it in tight window throw rate, so just

686
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: the least the smallest windows that Dak's thrown into.

687
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 3: And this goes along with it.

688
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: They are last in separation overall average separation for their

689
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: wide receivers, so everything's condensed.

690
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 4: That is interesting. I would have never thought that I would,

691
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 4: but goes.

692
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: Because you got one guy that can get open and

693
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: that guy's getting doubled and then everyone else in the

694
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: in the scheme and yeah.

695
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 5: Even like Brandon Cooks, like the archer. I mean, this

696
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 5: guy's a speed burner. He's supposed to be getting behind people.

697
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: He was he so he's out for this game.

698
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: As you mentioned, I think he'd been playing through something

699
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: is to be because they said he stayed in New

700
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: York to get a procedure and he had did not

701
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: look right this year. The one thing I just want

702
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: to say is I want more of Darnault Washington. Yes,

703
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: oh my god, pounds coming at you, seeing him run

704
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: down the sideline and his other touchdown catch, like you like,

705
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: build the whole play out of fields in Darnel Washington

706
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: and I'm entertained.

707
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 5: Let's go. I just want more. This is a perfect

708
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 5: game for him to get going. It's all Georgia Trio. Yeah,

709
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 5: darn Washington and justin fields making it work. But I

710
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 5: mean you mentioned Dak. Dak's always going to be high

711
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 5: on the tight window throw percentage because he takes those

712
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 5: chances and he makes those reads and he can make

713
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 5: those throws. But just how much of it do you want?

714
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 5: Like where are the layups in this offense? And maybe

715
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 5: without Brandon Cooks, there's more Cavante Turpin. They get action

716
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 5: in the screen game put Turpin out wide, but who knows, man,

717
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 5: it's it's a tough watch. And then Jerry's telling Jane

718
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 5: Slater this week that you know they're out on DeVante.

719
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 5: There's there's no more money in Texas. Apparently they can't.

720
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: What are they doing?

721
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: Man on a cap space by the way, I think, yeah,

722
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: I know there is. I'm just saying that you can

723
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: look at it. They've got Actually they have among that

724
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: most cap space in the league.

725
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 4: Like why wouldn't you want to get You could say

726
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 4: what you want about Devantae Adams. Man, that dude is

727
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 4: a dog. He is he is a grinder. He practices hard.

728
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 4: That's the type of dutey. You need to set an

729
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 4: example for everybody on that roster.

730
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 5: And I think DeVante could move a few jerseys. It

731
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 5: makes sense. It makes sense to me. Real purpose, but

732
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 5: a mission.

733
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: We'll see.

734
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 5: Speaking of DeVante Adams, the Las Vegas Raiders on the

735
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 5: road at the Denver Broncos, the road Warrior. Denver Broncos

736
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 5: went on the road to Tampa. Gott to win on

737
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 5: the road to MetLife, got to win Now, the Broncos

738
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 5: and bow Knicks are two and a half point favorites

739
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 5: against Gardner, Minshew and the rest of the crew, with

740
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 5: the total sitting at thirty six.

741
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: Greg, did bow Nicks show you enough at Met Life?

742
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: No?

743
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 3: What do you mean?

744
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: I mean he showed me enough to believe that you

745
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: can't possibly keep winning like this. It's a couple times now,

746
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: Like his bad throws are bad. I think he struggled

747
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: with the with the rain handsize alert oh a little

748
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: bit because those strows were coming out crazy, and then

749
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: the rain kind of died off in the third quarter

750
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: or especially the fourth, and he actually did look better,

751
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: So I think I think that was at least part

752
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: of it. The Denver run game was a little better,

753
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: but really they're gonna have to win with defense and

754
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: a great defense. Like when I when I think about

755
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: picking this game, I'm like, what do I really trust

756
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: with either of these teams right now? It's the way

757
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: that Vance Joseph is calling that defense amazing. Zach Allen

758
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: twenty three pressures. I know it's not a perfect step

759
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: but pass rush win rate the top two defensive tackles

760
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: in the NFL are Zach Allen, which surprising, but not

761
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: so much when you watch these games. He's been great

762
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: and Malcolm Roach of the Broncos. Those were the top two.

763
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: So that's a good start if you can get some

764
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: heat on Gardner Minshew.

765
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, look, this is one it's gonna be

766
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 4: mucked up. It's gonna be a lot of run game.

767
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 4: Vegas is gonna have to run because DeVante Adams is

768
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 4: not playing. I think he's played his last game in

769
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 4: the Silver and Black.

770
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: Not really a lot of.

771
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: Things's practice with a hamstring injury. Max Crosby also out

772
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: of practice.

773
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Max. I think Max will return this week.

774
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 4: I mean, he missed last game. He's trying to get right.

775
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 4: The dude hates missing ball games. But I mean, what

776
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 4: else do you have offensively? I mean you got the

777
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 4: tight end Brock Bauers, and he's a real one. He's fantastic. Right,

778
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 4: So now we're going to a great vance. Joseph will

779
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 4: go ahead and take care of that. We're not gonna

780
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: let him beat us. I just don't know if Vegas

781
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 4: can score. I think that thirty six number is perfect

782
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 4: for the over and under. This is not going to

783
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 4: be a high flying ball game right here, and just

784
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 4: the way, just just a consistency. I mean, Vegas is defense.

785
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 4: Patrick Graham's got some good stuff working as well.

786
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: Yep.

787
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 4: So you know, I just think this is one where

788
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 4: if I have to trust a defense, it's the way

789
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 4: the Broncos have played the past two or three weeks

790
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 4: has been as impressive as any team in the NFL.

791
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 5: The number one passing efficiency defense in all of football

792
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 5: six and rushing defense, number six in pressure rate going

793
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 5: up against the Raiders team that's in the twenties or

794
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 5: thirties in all of those stats, and I'm looking over

795
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 5: how impossible would it be to average over four and

796
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 5: a half yards per carry, which Javonte Williams did in

797
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 5: a football game where your quarterback had negative seven passing

798
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 5: yards in the first lame.

799
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

800
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 5: I believe in the Broncos run game simply based on

801
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 5: the fact that they're able to do anything with bo

802
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 5: Nicks attempting so many of his passes short to ten

803
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 5: yards around the line of scrimmage.

804
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: I think so many of those completions last week were

805
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage. That's the thing that's crazy

806
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: is he had so few and the completions that he

807
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: had were behind the line of scrimmage. I was going

808
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: to say it should be better weather, but like, if

809
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: he's not a good, bad weather quarterback, Denver is not

810
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: the city for you.

811
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 5: I think things will improve with time him. Right, you

812
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 5: have to play. He did play at Oregon. I mean

813
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 5: he's played as a.

814
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 3: Bad way Okay, okay, you know getting them over kid.

815
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 3: That was a tough watch that I went back.

816
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 4: I was sloppy conditions. I mean, that's not going to

817
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 4: happen every week.

818
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: By the way, assuming that DeVante Adams doesn't ever play

819
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: for the Raiders again, which feels very safe at this point. Yes,

820
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: they don't have enough weapons. And he played with six

821
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: different starting quarterbacks in the time that he was there.

822
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 3: That is crazy. He was barely there.

823
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 4: That's quite Larry Fitzgerald like who played with like forty

824
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 4: six in his years with Arizona.

825
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 5: I have seen some revisiness stuff where it's like, oh,

826
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 5: Davante should have stayed in Green Bay. They had they

827
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 5: had years to make him that offer. Yes, like the

828
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 5: Rogers contract came in between that. Then they come in

829
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 5: after the factors like, oh yeah, he had the same

830
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 5: offer on the table that the Raiders gave him. Win,

831
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 5: Like when did that offer come in. Look like, let's

832
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 5: be honest, he wanted out. He wanted an opportunity and

833
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 5: he took it. The Raiders just kind of went self.

834
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 5: And you say they didn't want to pay their quarterback either, right.

835
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: The latest in DeVante trade rumors reporting ESPN had that

836
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 1: the Jets and the Saints were atop his wishless So, man,

837
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: he loves that Derek Carr.

838
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 4: He loves Derek and look the Saints. I think the

839
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 4: Saints would love to have him. He's he's seen what

840
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 4: life is like without either of those two guys. Yes,

841
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 4: and he's like, you know what, I want to go.

842
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 3: He is a great fit on the Saints.

843
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 4: Here's the thing with both, it's a great fit with

844
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 4: both of those teams, though, I mean they could both

845
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 4: be blown up after the season. I mean, would he

846
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 4: really want to go to either of those teams because

847
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 4: of the Jets struggle they're blowing that thing up.

848
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: Well, he might become a free agent. Who knows he's

849
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: doing thirty five million next year?

850
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: Would you be non guaranteed?

851
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 3: Life is short?

852
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: I think if you're Devanta Adams, even if you're not

853
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: getting any more money from a new contract this year,

854
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: I think he's like, well, I don't want to spend

855
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: the next twelve weeks with the Raiders. I want to

856
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: go to a team that can be in the mix.

857
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: He might not even require more money right off the bat.

858
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 5: This time around him, I'd be pushing to go to

859
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 5: a place like Buffalo. Yeah, if he wanted to check

860
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 5: it down, he would, you know. But this is this

861
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 5: is about This is about being somewhere where the remainder

862
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 5: of his career can have some sort of significance to somebody.

863
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: And he does not see that. And I understand why

864
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: he does not see that.

865
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 4: As I said yesterday, Gardner Minshew is not going to

866
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 4: be on quarterback Island Patrick.

867
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 5: But hey, Gardner Minshew did get some wins last year

868
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 5: for the Indianapolis Colts where Greg was asking how does

869
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 5: he keep getting away with this? And now maybe they

870
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 5: have Joe Flacco? Is it Anthony Richardson? Either way, they

871
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 5: are in Douvall taking on the Jacksonville Jaguars, who are

872
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 5: a three point favorite, despite the fact that they have

873
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 5: had the twenty twenty four Jacksonville Jaguars season where there's

874
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 5: players only meetings discussions, there's the players aren't calling the

875
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 5: plays and the coaches can't play.

876
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: Greg vibes down horrendously.

877
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

878
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson asked on Wednesday, have you lost the locker room?

879
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: And his answer is no, I have not lost the

880
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: locker room. I mean what kind of question. I mean,

881
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: I unders then why you asked that. But it's a

882
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: tough one to answer, Like, there's no way to answer that.

883
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 5: What does it mean, by the way, Yeah, I've lost.

884
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: Well, you meant you mentioned, you know, Minshew having such

885
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: an impact on the cults. It wasn't that that long

886
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: ago that we were talking about how ridiculous it was

887
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: they were letting Minshew get all the first team reps

888
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: over Trevor Lawrence.

889
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

890
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 1: I mean at this point, Trevor Lawrence isn't playing any

891
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: better than Gardner Minshew this year.

892
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: I hate it.

893
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 2: It is he is.

894
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm shocked by it. But this the ball is not

895
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: going where he's aiming it to go.

896
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 4: He looks like, you know, he's just a non confident

897
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 4: player right now, and they have got to look, they've

898
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 4: got to get this win otherwise they're winless going over

899
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 4: to London to play the Bears, like they have got

900
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 4: to get this win. The flame is red hot under

901
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 4: Doug Peters. And the only thing is there's really nobody

902
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 4: on his staff who can take over maybe Mike McCoy

903
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 4: if they were to get rid of him. So I

904
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 4: don't think his job security is is it quite as

905
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 4: in immediate danger?

906
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 2: Some people got to win a game.

907
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: If you go to London and lose to the Bears

908
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: and the Patriots and lose this game game.

909
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: Then yeah, then then then things change.

910
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 4: I mean shots, Jack khn is not trying to lose

911
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 4: games over his homeway from home in England. But you

912
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 4: know the way the Colts their their quarterback situation, I

913
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 4: think they're I think they're fine. This is a game

914
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 4: where I think they're gonna be able to move the ball.

915
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 4: John the Taylor's nicked up right.

916
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's out of practice Wednesday. Yeah, he has a

917
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: high ankle sprain.

918
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 4: So we don't know if they're gonna be able to

919
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 4: run the ball. But teams are throwing the ball against

920
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 4: the Jags. Man, They're finding matchups all over the place.

921
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 5: I have a case for positivity in Jacksonville. This offense

922
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 5: is in the past game has mainly been funneled these

923
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 5: past couple of years between Evan Ingram and Christian Kirk.

924
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 5: Christian Kirk coming back from that offseason surgery slow start.

925
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 5: Evan Ingram only played one game this season. Now we've

926
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 5: got both of them potentially being on the field and

927
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 5: healthy for the first time.

928
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 4: Ingram changes things. Ingram changes things. I mean that is

929
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 4: that is Trevor's guy.

930
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 5: Because that's why, like Trevor, Trevor's downfield passing rate one

931
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 5: of the highest in the league. Right now, they're taking

932
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 5: nothing but shot and I think a lot of that

933
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 5: is because Evan Ingram is not in those particular spots

934
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 5: where Trevor trusted him to make play.

935
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: Gabe Davis has not worked out so far for them,

936
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: just hasn't had the production. And Brian Thomas looks like

937
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: a great drive. He's a real one when the balls

938
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 1: near him. He's made some really nice grabs. But yet

939
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: there they've been struggling in the red zone. Really any

940
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: stat you want to find an offense, it's not good

941
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. Then again, they're going again to Colts defense,

942
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: who lost Taekwon Lewis. He's going to injured reserve, not

943
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: a big name, but he is the third out of

944
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: four starters off their defensive line that's out and on

945
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: on ir and so that's that's pretty major. You still

946
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: have Grover Stewart, you have Latu Lasu, but that that's big.

947
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: Flaco was taking some reps in practice, but Richardson is limited.

948
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: He's day to day. We're not sure if Richardson's going

949
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: to play. It's disappointing because for as much credit as

950
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: Flaka got Man, that run game was absolutely cooking. Oh yeah,

951
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: including early against the Steelers, and Richardson was a huge

952
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: part of that. Their first drive and a half, he

953
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: gets a touchdown first drive, gets him into field goal

954
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: range before the injury, uh the second drive, and so

955
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to see that come together. And even if

956
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: he's out there, he's banged up and Taylor's not there,

957
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: that's that's their whole offensive identity. They could they could

958
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: fight a way to get a win with Flacco, but

959
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: it's just you want to be building on what your

960
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: team is actually.

961
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: And that offensive line is playing well. So I mean

962
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 2: that's something I think.

963
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: Hitman and Downs might not mind Flacco being in there

964
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: just because there's like more volume.

965
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 5: But as as you mentioned, Anthony Richardson had a couple

966
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 5: of great balls Michael Pittman junior or early in that

967
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 5: game before he left and he was getting involved downs.

968
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 5: Looks good and healthy. There's cases for positivity for both

969
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 5: of these things. You may feel really different for wherever

970
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 5: it comes up on the on the wrong side of

971
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 5: this one.

972
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's a that's a great point.

973
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: But the Colts could have a fantastic manage the season situation.

974
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: They get out of this game three and after the

975
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: start they've had, they will feel great.

976
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 4: The Jags lose to your point, by having Ingram one

977
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 4: hundred fourteen catches last year. I mean, that's how much

978
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 4: as a tight end he means to this team.

979
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 2: Like he is.

980
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 5: It is a real need and right now things are

981
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 5: real tough for Trevor and the Jags. Let's get back

982
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 5: to Sofi Stadium. It's time for the Sneaky Good Game

983
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 5: of the Week presented by DraftKings as the Green Bay

984
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 5: Packers on the road a three point favorite against Matthew

985
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 5: Stafford and the Los Angeles Rams. Both of these teams

986
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 5: with late heartbreakers last week, and Greg, we keep seeing

987
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford kind of have the team on his back,

988
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 5: but it's starting to feel like that burden is a

989
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 5: little bit too much of a load to care.

990
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot, and this game is a big

991
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: one for them. It's before their bye week. They do

992
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: not want to be one and four heading into their buy.

993
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 1: Then again, I thought, like, didn't they have a game

994
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: like this last year? They had a game again, I

995
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: think it was backup starting against the Packers, and they

996
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: lost it and they going into their bike. They were

997
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: three and six at that point and they managed to

998
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: come all the way back.

999
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 3: And you know, have a chance to and they made

1000
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 3: the playoffs.

1001
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 5: And Bretts and Brett Rippen with the Green Bay it

1002
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 5: started as the Rams cut him like immediately after.

1003
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 3: That's right.

1004
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: I think I think there's a lot to worry about

1005
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: with the Rams team because the defense it's gone from

1006
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: good enough certainly last year to not good enough this year.

1007
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: And they're getting a lot of pressure. And this is

1008
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: what happens when you lose you know, the greatest defensive

1009
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: player of all time, and your and your coach who

1010
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: is a good one, and Raheem Morris, You're they're weirdly

1011
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 1: first in pressure rate, which makes me question the pressure

1012
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: rates stat And yet because there's still one of the

1013
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: worst defenses. They aren't finishing plays. They only have seven sacks,

1014
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: and it's not affecting other quarterbacks enough. It's a lot

1015
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: of Jared Verse and Fisk kind of flying by the quarterback,

1016
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 1: and so they just need to figure that out.

1017
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's more like a proximity alert thing, and we

1018
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 5: got maybe we need a better way to contextualize what.

1019
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 4: I love the proximity alert. That is beautiful, Matt coin

1020
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 4: that much. It's as well the horseshoes and hand grenades

1021
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 4: that It's right.

1022
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: It's a lot of guys flying by and then the

1023
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: quarterback steps up in the pocket and makes a play

1024
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 1: on them, I think, is what's happening.

1025
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this, I mean, how are the Packers only

1026
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 4: a three point favorite? Because there will be more Packer

1027
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 4: fans in that stadium. And again this is not saying

1028
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 4: anything about Rams fans. Packers fans show up everywhere. So

1029
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 4: it's gonna be home game on the West Coast for

1030
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 4: Green Bay. I just you know, we've talked about Stafford

1031
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 4: places his heart out. He just doesn't have guys who

1032
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 4: can move with the ball. Jordan Love gonna get back.

1033
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 4: He's gonna feel a little bit better. Offensively. I think

1034
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 4: this is one where Green Bay it's going to ring

1035
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 4: up a ton of points and put it on the Rams.

1036
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: I tend to agree their pass rush hasn't been great.

1037
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: I know there's some Packers fans out there that really

1038
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: want a little more out of Kenny Clark and Rashan Gary.

1039
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: They're big ticket players who've been pretty quiet game change,

1040
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: and I just want a normal game out of Jordan Love.

1041
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: He's had a weird season. The opener was extremely weird

1042
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: on that field. He was a little all over the place.

1043
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: Last week, He's coming back from an injury. Didn't look

1044
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. That was a really up and down game,

1045
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: and so he just needs to kind of settle in

1046
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: and he can feel better if he doesn't pick up

1047
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: a third down that he's got Daniel Wheelan on his side.

1048
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: There is Irish punter is a problem. I mean this,

1049
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: This guy had a seventy four yard punt last week.

1050
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,479
Speaker 3: He created a touchdown by.

1051
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: Having a punt so good it went over you know,

1052
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: Minnesota souldiers there and created a short field. This guy,

1053
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 1: the Irish punter, he's the man.

1054
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 4: This guy the Irish punt, that's my guy. By the

1055
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 4: way I'm looking at last ten Packers are nine and one.

1056
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 4: Wow with the Rams as well, I knew there was

1057
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 4: something whre McVeigh had problems.

1058
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: Against the floor.

1059
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 5: The guy that I'm not at all concerned about, who

1060
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 5: I think has a huge day is Jaden Reid going

1061
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 5: up against this RAMS man.

1062
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 2: How good is he?

1063
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's explosive in people because for years right everybody

1064
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 5: was looking for Deebo Samuel and he's not Deebo Samuel

1065
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 5: with the ball in his hands like prom Debo, but

1066
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 5: just purely as a receiver.

1067
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: I think he's better than peak Debo, what not.

1068
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 3: Noting an he's faster.

1069
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not going to be as physical, No

1070
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: one's as physical, and he's a smaller player. But I

1071
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: agree with you he is a weapon in a similar

1072
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 1: way to Deebo.

1073
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 3: That's a good call.

1074
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is gonna be This is gonna be in

1075
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 2: a Josh Jacobs.

1076
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,479
Speaker 4: I mean, I think this is one where just Green

1077
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 4: Bay's offense, this is one when you look at the

1078
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 4: Rams defense, is there something where, like you say, can

1079
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 4: they can they get it together? Or is it one

1080
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 4: where the dam just breaks on this defense? Because you

1081
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 4: talked about a version fisk are fantastic and Byron Young

1082
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 4: gives him a little something. But where else are where

1083
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 4: else are they making enough plays, especially when you're facing

1084
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 4: an offense like this with a quarterback who wants to

1085
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 4: get his mojo going and.

1086
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: A great play caller, too great play caller. I the

1087
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: secondary is. I don't know what they were expecting exactly.

1088
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: It was kind of patched together, but I think they

1089
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 1: expected better play.

1090
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 3: Maybe out of the safety position. They've been okay, but.

1091
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 2: Quentin Lake's a pretty good player. Yeah, it was.

1092
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 5: It was very jarring to see DeAndre Swift and a

1093
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 5: Bears offensive line that could not run the ball.

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00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, just gosh them good. I yeah, it's tough.

1095
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: It's tough right now and lost.

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Speaker 3: Don't give up.

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Speaker 1: Lis my daughter of course a big Rams fan. This

1098
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: is a big game for them, I really mean it.

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Speaker 1: Before the buye, getting to two and three would be

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00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: huge for them. Packers would be in a world of

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Speaker 1: four two if they lost this game. After losing to

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Speaker 1: the Vikings, We'll be back in just a second.

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Speaker 1: A couple surprising just notes for you on our next game,

1110
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: Patrick Brown Brown's Commanders. First of all, Greg Olsen doing

1111
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: a Browns commander's game in week five shows you that

1112
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: Commanders are becoming one of America's teams right.

1113
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: Now, to watch them, watch them.

1114
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: Second, a man named Jason Bennetti is the play by

1115
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: play guy, not familiar with his work, and they slade

1116
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: him right into a big chair with Greg.

1117
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 3: Olsen while while Joe Davis is doing baseball.

1118
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 5: That shows me that I believe in Jason. Just that situation,

1119
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 5: I believe Jason Bennetti is going to call it all.

1120
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: I cover these announcers, Steve like some some people cover teams,

1121
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: So I truly might watch this game specifically to do

1122
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: a little Benetti scouting. That's a big spot for them

1123
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: to put him in. That's a lot of confidence they have.

1124
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 2: That'd be great.

1125
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what, You're not going to tune into

1126
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 5: this game for you to see the high flying Deshaun

1127
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 5: Watson led Cleveland Browns offense that lost a nasty game

1128
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 5: on the road to Gardner Minshew last week. At these

1129
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 5: Commanders who are a three point favorite, which maybe maybe

1130
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 5: should be a bit more, and the hottest quarterback right

1131
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 5: now that's not named Jared Golf in the entire en

1132
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 5: Jaden Daniels.

1133
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really interesting that they're only favored by three.

1134
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: It really shows that they're still waiting information that came

1135
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: before this year in what they expect this Browns team

1136
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: to be, because that's not reflective of the team that

1137
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: they are, which is one of the worst teams in

1138
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: the NFL. I mentioned DVA like total efficiency they have.

1139
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: The Browns actually dead last. They had Miami thirty one.

1140
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots were thirty and that's because their

1141
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: offense is dead last. Now, Watson played better last week,

1142
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: but the offense was still really struggling, and this should.

1143
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 3: Be a get right type of matchup.

1144
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: But if you're a Commander's optimist, maybe you watched last

1145
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 1: week's game and you thought, okay, is dan Quinn's defensive

1146
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: philosophies starting to take hold?

1147
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 5: Here?

1148
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: Frankie Luvu flying all over the place, Bobby Wagner, the

1149
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: cornerback's playing better. It was just one game, but after

1150
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: three really tough performances, they look it's like a decent

1151
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: defense and all they need to be is decent, and

1152
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: I think this team is a contender. They just need

1153
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: to be the twenty first best defense in the league

1154
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: and this team has a chance to make the playoffs.

1155
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 2: It's funny.

1156
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 4: I was actually talking to Dan Quinn about something Tuesday night,

1157
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 4: the head coach for the Commanders, and he was like,

1158
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 4: Cleveland gives you a million different things to occupy preparing

1159
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 4: on both sides to the ball court. Defensively with Jim Schwartz,

1160
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 4: they do have some players that match up well with

1161
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 4: with what Washington likes to do offensively. And they have Joka,

1162
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 4: one of my favorite players who can spy right. They

1163
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 4: use him a lot as an INSI linebacker who can

1164
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 4: spy Jayden Daniels right. So They've got some pieces that

1165
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 4: are nice little counter chips, and I think people, when

1166
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,959
Speaker 4: you look at the three points spread, are still waiting

1167
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 4: for Washington to see if they can handle being a

1168
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 4: successful football team. To go back to what Aaron Rodgers says,

1169
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 4: how do we handle success?

1170
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 3: Handle it well? Last week?

1171
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: That was my whole theory of like they're on the

1172
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: road a second time, short week against some you know,

1173
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: decent enough team and they put a forty burger on.

1174
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, Jaden was was was amazing. You know

1175
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 4: in Cleveland, there's their offensive line issues.

1176
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 2: Sean.

1177
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 4: He just does not look right in any way, shape

1178
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 4: or form running the offense. I mean not even like

1179
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 4: throwing the ball or or getting things going in that realm.

1180
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 2: It just does not look functional.

1181
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 4: But again, Washington, like like I said, is this is

1182
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 4: a proved game for the defense with Dan Quinn and

1183
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 4: Joe Witt on that side of the ball.

1184
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: Their corners are.

1185
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 4: Still something they're gonna that's gonna be an all season long.

1186
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 4: Working just a personnel is not that great, But they

1187
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 4: do love some things they saw with their safeties up

1188
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 4: the spine as the new term goes of the defense.

1189
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 4: We know how good those tackles are. You mentioned the

1190
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 4: inside linebackers. They like the way they functioned and how

1191
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 4: other guys built off of that.

1192
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: Little Jerry Newton, the second round pick I was into

1193
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: and during draft season getting some more pop.

1194
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1195
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 4: So so I think they feel better about their defense,

1196
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 4: But I think offensively they know it's gonna it's not

1197
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 4: gonna be layups because Jim Schwartz has got some pieces

1198
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 4: to counter some of their strengths.

1199
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 5: Well, the weakness of the team is, we know it's

1200
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 5: zeroed in at the quarterback right now, who if not

1201
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 5: for bon Nicks, would have the worst EPA on dropbacks

1202
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 5: right now, he's second worst, negative fifty one and a half. Right,

1203
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 5: And so like the Browns, it's all on Jim Schwartz.

1204
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 5: They blitz of forty eight almost forty eight percent of

1205
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 5: dropbacks on second down. Meanwhile, they might not be the

1206
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 5: dude to be blitzing against, though Jayden Daniels is getting

1207
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 5: rid of the ball quickly. Yeah, teams are playing with

1208
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 5: their safeties close to the line of scrimmage and it's

1209
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 5: not working. And when the when the Bengals are sending zeros,

1210
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 5: they're hitting the shots to get you back out of that.

1211
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 5: And some folks are charting regression. And I would understand

1212
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 5: that against a traditionally good Browns defense, I'm just gonna

1213
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 5: need to see him struggle before I say that.

1214
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like the defense that you think about with

1215
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: the Browns, they would have gone into Vegas last week

1216
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: week and absolutely dominate. I'm not saying they played poorly,

1217
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: but they just looked like two even teams. They gave

1218
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: up one hundred and fifty two yards rushing to the Raiders. Yeah,

1219
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: so don't run the ball well and and a lot

1220
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: of that was those like wide receiver end a round

1221
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: type stuff. I mean, the Commanders can take advantage with

1222
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: their speed, with in Jayden Daniels's legs, with the over

1223
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: aggressiveness sometimes. I mean Grant Delpit said before last week's

1224
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: game it was a must win, and then they lost.

1225
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: So whenever you lose the must win, I just I

1226
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,919
Speaker 1: just chalk up the next week as a loss too.

1227
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 3: I mean, it is it's dark there.

1228
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: They they're spending more cash this If you're Jim Haslim,

1229
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: you're spending he just gave his coach and his GM,

1230
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 1: I think an extension.

1231
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 2: Of as he should. As he should.

1232
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: Uh, he's spending more cash on players than any team

1233
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: in the league. They are the second oldest team in

1234
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 1: the league.

1235
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's because they keep converting all those all those

1236
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 4: future years into cash. Just real quick, we can't talk

1237
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 4: about Brian Robinson and whe they're doing with the running

1238
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 4: game of Washington. That's why those safeties are playing up

1239
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 4: and I mentioned it yesterday on the pod. Anthony Lynn

1240
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 4: being you know, their run game coordinator helps out a lot.

1241
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 4: It keeps Cliff Kingsbury from going gets his tendency to

1242
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 4: throwing the ball too much. And when you've got a

1243
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 4: stud like him, Eckler could be back as well this game.

1244
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 2: So this is this is.

1245
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: Why their lighting dominated as good as Jayden Daniels is.

1246
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe how much pass pro he had last week,

1247
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 1: and it was against Arizona's not known for rushing the passer.

1248
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: But he's just sitting back there chilling. So that's a

1249
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: great job by their front.

1250
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it makes it extra tough because you got

1251
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 5: to be under control when you're rushing Jayd and Daniels

1252
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 5: and then when when you're getting Mauleder front on.

1253
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 2: Top of that.

1254
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 5: That was the recipe again, fifty would have been easy

1255
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 5: and easy he had Dan decided that he wanted to.

1256
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 5: I'm sure Cliff might have considered won it anyway. But

1257
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 5: as as Greg pointed out, they're still paying him.

1258
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's still cashing those checks from mccardill. See he

1259
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 1: won twice last Sunday.

1260
00:55:58,480 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 3: It's awesome.

1261
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 2: All right, to our next game.

1262
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 5: It's the Carolina Panthers who traded famously with the Chicago Bears,

1263
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 5: and here we are the payoff of the trade. DJ

1264
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 5: Morald one side, Caleb Williams on the side with him,

1265
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 5: and Bryce Young is watching as Andy Dalton starts for

1266
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 5: the third straight game former Bears starting quarterback Andy Dalton.

1267
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 5: So another Dalton revenge game two weeks in a row.

1268
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 5: Chicago is a four point favorite. Here's Steve. We got

1269
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 5: Kenny Albert and Jonathan Vilma on the call. The Bears

1270
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 5: can run the ball now apparently you know, well they

1271
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 5: ran against the Rams, you know who we were just.

1272
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 3: Talking and the Panthers defense.

1273
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 4: Which which is just you know, where, gosh, where the

1274
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 4: Panthers do well. I mean, that's one thing you have

1275
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 4: to kind of ask yourself. This is one of things

1276
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 4: for Chicago. Let's see if they can get it going right.

1277
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 4: This is an important stretch for them. But let's see

1278
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 4: if they can get it going any game they should win,

1279
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 4: right they you know their defense, They've got the defense

1280
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 4: to put the heat all over Andy Dalton forced a

1281
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 4: couple of takeaways and then offensively get the run.

1282
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,959
Speaker 2: Try to get the run to balance the pass game.

1283
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 4: Don't put a ton of don't put a ton of it,

1284
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 4: you know, on the rookie quarterback. But I just think

1285
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 4: four force probably about the right number for this because

1286
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 4: I don't see Chicago necessarily rolling over everybody because they're

1287
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 4: still working through things. But you know, if we're seeing

1288
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams and in this run game getting it going

1289
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 4: against Carolina, you know, to me, I think for is

1290
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 4: a really nice number with the beers on top.

1291
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 3: It just hasn't clicked for Caleb Williams yet.

1292
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: There are a couple plays last week where he was

1293
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: so stuck in the pocket refusing to move his feet

1294
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: that you almost could hear the coaching point of don't

1295
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: bail out too quickly, but like he literally just wasn't moving,

1296
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: and that I don't think that's the natural thing for

1297
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams.

1298
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 3: Like his feet like we're just just planted, just planted.

1299
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: And he had people around him, and he hit a

1300
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: bunch of his short passes and he didn't make mistakes

1301
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: in the running game. So that was effective for a week.

1302
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: Could go this is an opportunity against a bad defense.

1303
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: You have the Jags, me and you will be at

1304
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: that key, Steve, you know if you're in the UK,

1305
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: you can see me. I'll be on Sky Sports on

1306
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: the sideline, so we're both sidelines or both sidelines. I'll

1307
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: bump INTI maybe i'll say hi. And what a gift

1308
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: they've been given over there, Yeah, a gift they've been

1309
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: given the by the schedule, guys, I mean to get

1310
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: a bang the Brams team than the Panthers, than the Jags,

1311
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: than the bye, then a Cardinals team that has some issues.

1312
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: You can make some hay here and we can get going.

1313
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: I just want to see Caleb be a little more comfortable.

1314
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, the discomfort, I think it's going to be on

1315
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 5: the Carolina Panthers side if matching up these teams, the Bears.

1316
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 2: Defense is the is the clear plus Yes in this one.

1317
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 5: As great as the Andy Dalton revolution has been, and

1318
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 5: it's nice to see them be a functional football team.

1319
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 5: Watching Matt Stafford fail to make plays late and again

1320
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 5: the accumulation of circumstances that that he's facing probably played

1321
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 5: a role in that. But this Bears defense is just

1322
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 5: so so so good and it's tough to imagine. Four

1323
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 5: points feels about right. I'm I'm with the odds makers here.

1324
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: I saw a headline from Panthers camp today that was,

1325
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: you know, their coach Dave Canalis saying Deontay Johnson is

1326
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: not available in a trade, which I was like, why

1327
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: would that?

1328
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 3: Is that a question? Why was that? I didn't think

1329
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 3: that was Why would he be He's like I always like.

1330
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 2: I think the Panthers are sellers right now.

1331
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: No, I get it. I think he's on Is he

1332
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: on the last year of his contract? I believe he

1333
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: is so, I guess naturally, maybe in three or four

1334
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: weeks if the record was really bad, teams could come calling.

1335
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: But they want to produce this the first year of

1336
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: under Dave Canalis. I think they would like to have

1337
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson long term there. They should not be in

1338
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: the business of giving away weapons, and they should feel better.

1339
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: They're offensive line playing better, and Lagett had a nice

1340
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: Xavier Lagett had a nice game. So that those are

1341
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: the types of things. If you're a Panthers fan, you

1342
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: really are looking towards some of these free agents. Can

1343
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: they work out on the offensive line? Can Laget workout,

1344
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson work and then okay, these are guys we

1345
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: can build with.

1346
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 4: And they've got to form some type of nucleus, because

1347
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 4: right now they don't really have a ton of building blocks.

1348
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 5: Perhaps, you know, is the Pittsburgh Steelers active and trying

1349
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 5: to find wide receivers for a long time. You know,

1350
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 5: maybe the breakup should have never happened.

1351
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: Oh boy, Yeah, that's fair. I think they're happy with

1352
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: Dante Jackson. That's a rare case where it might be

1353
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: a win win where both both teams are relatively happy.

1354
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 3: But I'd rather have Deontae Johnson.

1355
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 2: To your point, let's go to a little Monday night. Yeah,

1356
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 2: are you ready for ball?

1357
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 5: The New Orleans Saints at the Kansas City Chiefs, who

1358
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 5: have been struggling on offense, who have lost their top

1359
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 5: wide receiver, A five and a half point favorite of course,

1360
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 5: Joe Buck and Troy Aikman on the call, Greg five

1361
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 5: and a half.

1362
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: That's a big number. That feels like a lot against

1363
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 2: the good same number.

1364
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like they're just begging it. Forget forget

1365
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: the five and a half. I mean, I am going

1366
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: to be very tempted to make the same mistake I've

1367
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: made so many times the Patrick Balms era. Dare to

1368
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: doubt this man at home because it feels like the

1369
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: Saints are better than their two and two record and

1370
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: the Chiefs aren't as good as their four to zero record.

1371
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: And when those two types of teams match up, I

1372
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: tend to pick it evening out. This Chief's offense really

1373
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: testing the ideas that Andy Reid's gonna have because he's

1374
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: going back to sky more on third downs. Like that's

1375
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: not working out. You got Kareem Hunt back in the building.

1376
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: He ran well, but it just that wasn't the plan,

1377
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? They it will be moving forward,

1378
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: right They wanted to be more explosive this year, and

1379
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: I think they had four explosive players. Rashie Rice, Hollywood Brown,

1380
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: and Isaiah Pacheco are now gone.

1381
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 3: Those were three of the four.

1382
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: The fourth, the rookie Worthy is an exciting young player.

1383
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: Can you build more of the offense around him. I

1384
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: think that's going to have to be the challenge as

1385
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: they move forward. I don't know if he's ready for

1386
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: it right yet.

1387
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 2: I do, Okay, I mean, I mean we've seen it.

1388
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, why aren't they using it more? Maybe just I

1389
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: don't know. Andy Reid does slow play rookies quite a bit.

1390
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 4: And we and we talked about you know, first four

1391
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 4: games or their preseason, let's figure out what's working. And

1392
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 4: they've had to adjust some things right because of the injury.

1393
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 4: So everything I've seen that is Avier worthy. Again, if

1394
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 4: they decide to lean on him now, I think he

1395
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 4: could have a Z eight Flowers type of impact. Before

1396
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 4: they're not putting the pressure on him. Now they're putting

1397
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 4: the pressure on him. I think he's the type of player.

1398
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 4: He can go big. I mean, that's just the thing

1399
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 4: against the Saints. Saints got the DBS, like ty Matthew's

1400
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 4: gonna be sitting over the top of him all game, right,

1401
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 4: There's not going to be, you know, the type of

1402
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 4: space that he's been getting, and that's something they're gonna

1403
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 4: have to stop. So can Andy Reid find out to

1404
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 4: figure out some things underneath? It gets a very solid

1405
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 4: Saints defensive front, so it'll be intriguing. My thing, though,

1406
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 4: is to me, this is more of what are we

1407
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 4: gonna find out about the Saints. Are they the team

1408
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 4: that was hanging forty on people the first two or

1409
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 4: that is decent offensively because they're going up against one

1410
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 4: of the top defenses in the NFL in terms of

1411
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 4: making you earn everything that you have to get And

1412
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 4: are the Saints that type of offense? We saw they

1413
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 4: look they look like they could play that type of

1414
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 4: game against the Falcons last week, they just came up

1415
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 4: short at the end of the game.

1416
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

1417
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 4: I think this is more of a tell on what

1418
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 4: the Saints are going to because I think they're a

1419
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 4: pretty good football team. But against this defense on the road,

1420
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 4: we'll see.

1421
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 5: They are Saints oh and two in close games they

1422
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 5: got two blowout yep. Those that to two featured some

1423
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 5: of the most catastrophic mistakes that you could ever possibly

1424
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 5: imagine that get they could very easily before and O

1425
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 5: and the Kansas City Chiefs have not been in a

1426
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 5: game that wasn't a close game.

1427
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 2: They played closely.

1428
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 5: Came down to the wire because particularly of the injuries

1429
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 5: and the offensive struggles. Patrick mahomes the lowest mark of

1430
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 5: his career five point one air yards per attempt. So

1431
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 5: if we want Xavier Worthy getting all these downfield shots,

1432
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 5: they're just not available in this offense. And I'm I

1433
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 5: kind of feel like between Nakey and Andy Reid and

1434
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 5: probably the quarterback as well, those low percentage opportunities, they

1435
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 5: feel like They're going to be off the field very

1436
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 5: very fast if they don't hit those and so they

1437
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 5: don't go to those shot plays as much. This this

1438
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 5: feels like an opportunity where it's not wish casting to

1439
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 5: say the same. Now this feels very real.

1440
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: I think the offensive line is the biggest, you know issue.

1441
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: It held up well enough last week without Eric McCoy,

1442
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: without Caesar ruiz U, two interior players. McCoy really key,

1443
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: but that was against the Falcons. That's a team you

1444
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: can kind of survive with the shaky offensive line, Trevor

1445
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: Penning and everything. Now you've got to go up against

1446
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in their front with Chris Jones playing like

1447
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 1: Hall of famer and George carlislek after week continue and

1448
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 1: so that that worries me a little bit. It'll be tougher.

1449
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: But I do think there's an opportunity. I think the

1450
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: one the one Calendra I would have to to what

1451
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: you said. Patrick has those catastrophic mistakes. That's a hallmark

1452
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: of this Dennis Allen team. And Alvin Kamara in the

1453
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: locker room afterwards was very pointed about it, like that

1454
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 1: they make some mistakes, they don't win games that that

1455
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 1: great teams do, and he was very frustrated because of

1456
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: the blown opportunities that this this keeps happening to us

1457
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: over and over.

1458
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 4: Well, look, you keep on doing the same thing over

1459
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 4: and over, and that's a habit, you know. So that's

1460
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 4: an issue, and you don't. You don't beat Kansas City

1461
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 4: by beating yourself.

1462
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 5: And Kamara's saying that playing with broken ribs, yeah, in

1463
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 5: a game. It's just I can't imagine the level of

1464
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 5: frustration to go out there and have a performance like

1465
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 5: he did with broken ribs and to see them lose

1466
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 5: to a team that didn't score an offensive touchdown.

1467
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 3: That's the thing.

1468
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: I mean that game in particular. I think the Eagles

1469
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 1: game was more you know, some mental errors. That was

1470
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 1: just I mean, that wasn't mental air by Rashiza, but

1471
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: you wouldn't think that that would ever happen again. That

1472
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: the pick six was a little crazy. I do like

1473
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: the Saints in this one. I gotta admit, Yeah, I

1474
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: think I keep on board there.

1475
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't like the points battle like the Chiefs.

1476
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: I keep blowing it just expecting too much of this

1477
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: Saints team.

1478
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 5: Let's go to our game in Seattle, coming off that

1479
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 5: heartbreaker score fest against the Lions, a six point favorite

1480
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 5: against Malik Neighbors and the New York Giants. For some reason,

1481
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 5: people keep putting dimes on promos about the Giants, and

1482
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 5: I just have to audibly change it.

1483
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 2: Not the same.

1484
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 5: Elie dabors the Giants. UH Seattle favored by six forty

1485
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 5: three and a half. Andrew Kettle On, Ticky Barber, Jason

1486
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 5: mccordy on the call, Steve, where Gino played great, He

1487
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 5: played a spectacular football game, but the defense literally could

1488
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 5: not get Jared Goff to throw a single incompletion.

1489
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1490
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 4: I mean, look, they had what four four starters in

1491
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 4: the front seven who were all down. You know, I

1492
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 4: don't know if they're getting any of those guys back. First,

1493
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 4: let's go back to your announcers. Jason mccordy doing a

1494
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 4: good job. It's spectacular. He's really really just a hell

1495
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 4: of an analyst. You know, props to him. But to

1496
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 4: get back to this game, you know, the six the

1497
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 4: sixth number looks big to me for Seattle because you know, defensively,

1498
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 4: they had their issues. You saw how Detroit really put

1499
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 4: some good secondary players Rieke willand especially Devin Witherspoon in

1500
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 4: tremendous conflict.

1501
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if the Giants have.

1502
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 4: The players necessarily to do that, or the quarterback to

1503
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 4: do that, or the play caller to do that. But

1504
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 4: until Seattle gets fully healthy up front, there's gonna be

1505
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 4: some opportunities there. But Seattle's gonna score. I mean there,

1506
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 4: the Seahawks are going to put points up. We saw

1507
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 4: out of Kenneth Walker. Uh, and they're gonna get Now,

1508
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 4: They're gonna continue to rely on him. I mean, he

1509
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 4: finally he looks super healthy. I think he's gonna be

1510
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 4: able to run the ball against the Giants. That's gonna

1511
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 4: get those pass rushers who are very good for the

1512
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 4: Giants on their heels, and then Gino just dialing it up.

1513
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 4: I mean, but he's got going with DK metcalf Is

1514
01:07:58,200 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 4: is really special.

1515
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 5: Look at Kenneth Walker right here. That's one of the

1516
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 5: more athletic plays I've ever seen.

1517
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: When he got flipped over lands on his feet and

1518
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: just keeps going. I mean, his ability to change direction.

1519
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: It probably drives their coaches crazy every now and then

1520
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: because he'll have like a minus seven thrown in there.

1521
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:16,799
Speaker 3: He'll lose some plays.

1522
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: But my God, it's fun to watch when it works,

1523
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: and it's been working more and more. I think he's

1524
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: gotten better and better as a pro. And I think

1525
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: their offensive line has improved the last time hegree because

1526
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: they were just a tire fire the first two weeks,

1527
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: where you're thinking it's a big, big problem. The last

1528
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,759
Speaker 1: two weeks it's been more like, okay, if you're closer

1529
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: to average. I didn't think Gino was pressured too much

1530
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: against the Lions. When he was, it tended to be

1531
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: the longer, developing plays where he held the ball and

1532
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 1: he made it happen. And I think that's a good

1533
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: sign for them against a pretty good front. Burns is

1534
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 1: getting a lot of pressures, he's not finishing plays. Cavon's

1535
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: coming off a big game. You got Dexter Lawrence. I

1536
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: think the this is damning with faint praise, But the

1537
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: Lion the Giants are a good one in three.

1538
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 2: I think I would agree with that.

1539
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 3: I think they've been better.

1540
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: I looked at the rest of the one in threes here,

1541
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: I think there's eight or nine teams. I would say

1542
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: that they're like the second best one in three team.

1543
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 1: I mean that's the least the second life. Yeah, given

1544
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: the first, I'm giving Burrow the first burrow and the

1545
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: Bengals the first, and I would think just an average

1546
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: like weekly play. I think they've probably been a little

1547
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:24,799
Speaker 1: better than the Rams and maybe the Cardinals.

1548
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 2: I just think they're okay.

1549
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: They're all in the same area, but they're just not

1550
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 1: great at anything. But they're not terrible at anything either.

1551
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: They're just like a little below average at everything.

1552
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 5: If you're looking for a terrible Giants stat uh, you

1553
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,799
Speaker 5: go back to twenty twenty two. On downfield passing attempts,

1554
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones has thrown more interceptions than he has completion, okay, touchdowns.

1555
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 5: On downfield passing, there were several times on that game

1556
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 5: on Thursday Night where Giants receivers were open, they were

1557
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 5: open and the ball placement was so bad that they

1558
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 5: the Cowboys defense was able to get back and make

1559
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 5: plays or the ball just wound up being uncatchable. And

1560
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 5: after seeing the Seahawks' defense go up against again the

1561
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 5: most accurate quarterback on the night in NFL history, it's

1562
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 5: gonna be a feel good reprieve to see number eight

1563
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 5: on the other side.

1564
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 4: It's inching the Daniel Jones deepall conversation. Some folks, you're

1565
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 4: just saying because the injuries, he can't uncork anymore. I mean,

1566
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 4: I don't know if there's any factual truth behind it,

1567
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 4: but you just see over and over when he's trying

1568
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 4: to throw that deep ball, it is it is not

1569
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 4: getting there.

1570
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I take it back what I said that they're

1571
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 1: like just below average everything because they're terrible at throwing

1572
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 1: the deep ball. That's a big factor. And neighbors, right,

1573
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 1: and when you have good you have Darius Slayton. That's

1574
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: what he wants to major in. And he's a good

1575
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: NFL player. He's not like a great one, but he's

1576
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: a rotation. He's a good player. But you're not taking

1577
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: advantage of him. You're not taking advantage of Jaalen Hyatt

1578
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 1: who can barely get on the field for his team,

1579
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 1: and you're going up against some cornerbacks who can play

1580
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: sticky man coverage and that just that limits what you

1581
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 1: want to do. So yeah, I don't think they'll win

1582
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 1: this game, but I don't know if I trust the

1583
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 1: Seahawks to be blowing teams out either. I can see

1584
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 1: this coming down to the end between the Giants and

1585
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:10,799
Speaker 1: the Seahawks.

1586
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 3: Why not?

1587
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 2: Yea, why not. Jason mccuardy will really give us a

1588
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 2: good insight on it as well.

1589
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 1: I think he's doing a great I'm glad you shouted

1590
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 1: him out.

1591
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, indeed, and shout out to Eugene Cyril Smith and

1592
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 5: everything that he's doing in Seattle.

1593
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 2: Let's get to our final game.

1594
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 5: It is another game speaking of the NFC West, A

1595
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 5: Division matchup between the Arizona Cardinals at the San Francisco

1596
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 5: forty nine Ers. We're trying to figure out these teams

1597
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 5: right now. It's forty nine ers favored by seven, but

1598
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 5: it's just up and down.

1599
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 2: Greg.

1600
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 5: We see the Arizona Cardinals come out, they hang a

1601
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 5: billion points on the Rams and then the offense has

1602
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 5: been slow ever since. And looking at San Francisco like

1603
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 5: when are they going to be the forty nine ers

1604
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 5: that we I think they.

1605
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: Were pretty close to it now. The Patriots are the Patriots,

1606
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 1: but they controlled that game. They got up twenty to nothing,

1607
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 1: they had their good players come back. In terms of

1608
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 1: Debo and George Kittle, I like the direction that they're going.

1609
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,799
Speaker 1: I think they're getting fantastic play out of Rock Purty.

1610
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: I talked about him on Quarterback Island that I think

1611
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 1: he's playing better than when he was an MVP candidate

1612
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,600
Speaker 1: a year ago. I think he's legitimately one of the

1613
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: five best quarterbacks in the league so far this year.

1614
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 1: And so if your quarterback's playing that well and you

1615
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 1: have all this talent around him the defense, that's the question.

1616
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: And this is a good week to continue to try

1617
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,719
Speaker 1: to get healthy because Kyler's just a little out of rhythm,

1618
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: Like his eyes kept coming down and seeing the pass

1619
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: rush last week, he's maybe trying to do a little

1620
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: too much out of structure. He did it against the

1621
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 1: Rams so much where he's just out there and it's

1622
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 1: the Kyler show that he might have fallen too much

1623
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: in love with it the last couple of weeks, and

1624
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 1: you're not seeing a lot of making throws at the

1625
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,759
Speaker 1: back of his drop and in rhythm type of throws

1626
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 1: to his receivers.

1627
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, the last four games with these teams, I mean

1628
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers were just rolled Arizona, and you

1629
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 4: know there's a potential for this to happen right here.

1630
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,640
Speaker 4: Jordan Mason's gonna get some rushing yards here. I mean,

1631
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 4: he's he's just got it working I don't care what

1632
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 4: defense they're playing.

1633
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 2: Their offensive line. I mean, look at this right here.

1634
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 4: That's what you call playing on a thread that zone

1635
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,679
Speaker 4: stretch scheme, and he just breaks the first tackle every time.

1636
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 4: You're not gonna get a clean look at him. But

1637
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 4: he's just a typical now Niners running back where he's

1638
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,719
Speaker 4: going to get positive yards or watching video of him

1639
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 4: in the red zone cut back, he's getting into the

1640
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 4: end zone. That's gonna happen against the Cardinals. They're not

1641
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 4: great at any level. And tackling, it seems like Buddha

1642
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 4: Baker's got seventeen tackles every game coming up from the

1643
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,719
Speaker 4: safety spot. That's gonna open up things in the run game.

1644
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 4: I just this is one brock Perdy. If he throws

1645
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 4: the ball twenty four times, I'll be surprised because I

1646
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 4: just think that you're gonna be able to run the ball.

1647
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 4: Debo's gonna get some runs off. I think this is

1648
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 4: gonna be a heavy, heavy rushing attack by the forty

1649
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 4: nine ers at home.

1650
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 5: I'm glad you brought up rock Party because it's kind

1651
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,600
Speaker 5: of getting lost. Rock Party is leading the NFL in

1652
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 5: passing right now and thirty passing yards this season under

1653
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 5: that more than Gina under twenty percent of those have

1654
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 5: been after the catch. Right, So this collective rock party,

1655
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 5: you know, fraud watch criticism where it's like, oh, this

1656
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 5: is all this is all yards after the catch and

1657
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 5: oh Sam Darnold should come in and play instead of him,

1658
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 5: And like, Brock is playing very good football with the

1659
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 5: team not being the guys who are consistently in and out.

1660
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 5: We've we've seen Trent League games, right, but Ayukus had

1661
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,839
Speaker 5: a slow start, they had to rely on Juwan Jennings.

1662
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 5: It's Brock is playing really really good football right now.

1663
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 5: And the Arizona Cardinals.

1664
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: The young player, Like it makes sense that he's improving

1665
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 1: a lot this early in his career. He's played so

1666
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 1: much and in such big spots, and you think of

1667
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: him because he was mister irrelevant as like and I

1668
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 1: maybe fell victim to this too of like that he's

1669
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 1: just this guy that isn't going to be as talented.

1670
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:02,719
Speaker 3: But we expect talented young quarterbacks.

1671
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 1: To keep improving in their first five years before they

1672
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 1: are fully formed, and we're seeing more of the fully

1673
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 1: formed Brock. Pretty he can continue to get better, but

1674
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 1: he's he's not afraid to throw deep. No, Like his

1675
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 1: percentage of deep throws is sky high yards per attempt.

1676
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 1: He's leading the league by half a yard. I can't

1677
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: question his decision making. Like he's running the ball pretty

1678
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 1: well too. And this Cardinals defense, after a decent three

1679
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: weeks where you're like, oh, they're playing a little over

1680
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 1: their skis, came back to earth and that was kind

1681
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: of the Cardinals defense you expected to see a week

1682
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 1: ago against the Commanders.

1683
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1684
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 4: And to get back to Brock, I mean, you've heard

1685
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 4: me say it over and over. He's a killer, right.

1686
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 4: He is a dude who, when it comes down to it,

1687
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 4: you test him, he's gonna rip it to you. Like

1688
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 4: he's not someone's gonna take a shot, right, He's not

1689
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 4: Jay Cutler type. I'm gonna show you my big arm

1690
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 4: and try and rip it in there. But he finds

1691
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 4: the receiver. He is not afraid to throw the ball

1692
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 4: to where it's supposed to go to to throw Juwan

1693
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 4: Jennings or whomever who might be covered. I'm gonna put

1694
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 4: it to where you're gonna catch it. You're gonna make

1695
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 4: to play. I just think he's a winning quarterback, but

1696
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 4: not in the oh he's a winner type of right.

1697
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 2: He's a guy who's going to be able to lead

1698
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 2: you to victory. And I think he's showing that.

1699
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 4: Like we talked about, just everything that they've been without,

1700
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 4: they've got him.

1701
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: The playoff run, I think is going to get a

1702
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: little lost because they lost that game, but the fact

1703
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 1: that he was in a position where he had to

1704
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 1: make a drive to avoid a really tough loss in

1705
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: the division round and they get it done by now

1706
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 1: he was a big part of the reason they were

1707
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:30,759
Speaker 1: trailing by so much at halftime in the NFC Championship,

1708
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 1: but to respond like he did, and I will always

1709
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 1: remember his drives at the end of the Super Bowl

1710
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: in the way that I remember Tom Brady's two thousand

1711
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 1: and seven drive to take the lead over the Giants

1712
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: as one of the best moments of his career.

1713
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 3: It really was.

1714
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 1: And then they lost the game. Anyways, that's how it happens.

1715
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 1: Brock Purdy had some incredible moments in the biggest of spots,

1716
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 1: and this is not that, but.

1717
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 3: They do need to win.

1718
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: And suddenly, you know, you lose at home and against

1719
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 1: the Cardinals and you're two and three and everyone's panicing.

1720
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 3: Trey McBride is expected to be back for this game.

1721
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 1: That is good news for the Fantasy tight End Apocalypse

1722
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four.

1723
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 5: It's nasty out there, tumbleweeds and people are fighting for

1724
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 5: cat food to the tight end world and stuff.

1725
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: I got people picking up Elijah Higgins and starting them

1726
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 1: in my league.

1727
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 3: It's like, who what?

1728
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 5: I'm getting psyched up by Isaiah likely after week one

1729
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 5: in good call, Steve, Yeah, Gino does have rock by

1730
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 5: fifty two yards. Okay, so Gino's is still number one,

1731
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,719
Speaker 5: but hey to Greg's to Greg on Ultimate, what a world?

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01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 1: What a world that everyone just kind of accepts, like,

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01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Gino, he's a top ten quarterback, He's the man.

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01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 1: It's just accepted. It's not even controversial, not at all.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, let's go. It's just facts. That's what

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01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 1: we deal That's what we deal in. What we also

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01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: deal in here, factual analysis, information, a little bit of

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01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: fun in the Chris Westling Podcast Studio. Always love doing

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01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: this previous show with Steve Weish and Patrick Clayband. Thanks

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01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 1: for watching NFL Daily. Yes, I'll be back Thursday night.

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01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 1: Fun game. Love the NFC South Bucks Falcons gonna be

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01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 1: up with Gerald McCoy really excited. Join me live on

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Speaker 1: YouTube about ten minutes after the game.

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Speaker 3: I'll be with.

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01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: Gerald and on the podcast version of the show. Also

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Speaker 1: have Ron Rivera for a little discussion, so we got superstars.

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Speaker 3: Football is back.