Speaker 1: Hello, it's your name, big money player.
Speaker 2: This is Derek.
Speaker 1: Derek. You ever seen then no Disney Channel show called
Speaker 1: Life with Derek?
Speaker 2: How have I not seen that?
Speaker 3: Is that? Like?
Speaker 2: Is that a lot older?
Speaker 1: Or how old are you?
Speaker 2: I'm twenty nine.
Speaker 1: You would have you? Maybe you were too old for
Speaker 1: Disney Channel when it came out. Probably, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was more of a Nickelodeon kid, you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, would you watch on Nickelodeon.
Speaker 2: Fucked on of Blues Clues? Bro that was my ship.
Speaker 1: That's cool. I remember when the Blues Clues movie came
Speaker 1: out and they had the dog. The dog was in
Speaker 1: a costume and it was a crazy game changer to me.
Speaker 1: I actually saw that and was like, how did they
Speaker 1: do that? How did they make this?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Man come alive?
Speaker 2: And I imagine like seeing that at the at a
Speaker 2: young age man's mind blowing.
Speaker 1: Well, Derek, I assume you didn't call in to talk
Speaker 1: about how awesome the Blue School's movie was.
Speaker 2: I did not, You're correct, although I could if you want.
Speaker 1: To tell me what you wanted to talk about initially.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I have very overbearing parents. They I even at
Speaker 2: the age of twenty nine, they really don't give me
Speaker 2: much freedom, and it's it's concerning to say the least.
Speaker 1: Okay, when you say they don't give you much freedom freedom, well,
Speaker 1: I mean I have a few questions. But okay, when
Speaker 1: you say that freedom to do what specifically what things
Speaker 1: do they not give you the freedom to do?
Speaker 2: Just like normal adult things, Like they don't even let
Speaker 2: me move out of their house, even though I have
Speaker 2: definitely the financial means to be able to do it.
Speaker 2: They even and because I'm under their roof, they feel
Speaker 2: like rightfully so, because it's their house that they can dictate,
Speaker 2: like who I hang out with, what I eat, what
Speaker 2: I drink.
Speaker 4: So yeah, okay, so I'm if you have the means
Speaker 4: with by what authority do they control these things?
Speaker 2: I just I just think because maybe maybe it's me
Speaker 2: just not putting my foot down, but I just feel
Speaker 2: like if they if they really want me to stay there,
Speaker 2: that I have to respect that because they're my parents,
Speaker 2: you know, like like you know what I mean, maybe
Speaker 2: maybe I shouldn't be doing that, but I do feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, they did a lot for me growing up,
Speaker 2: So I thought, I think the least I could do
Speaker 2: in my mind, not saying it's right or wrong is
Speaker 2: to stay there with them. They don't really need any
Speaker 2: help or anything, just to stay there.
Speaker 1: M hmm. Are you and are you in their house
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 2: I am, Yeah, I'm in the basement.
Speaker 1: Just you or any siblings.
Speaker 2: No, I'm an only child.
Speaker 1: Okay, so just you mom and dad?
Speaker 2: Correct?
Speaker 1: Parents still together, They're not remarried or anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't have the best relationship, but they're still together.
Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, if you have the means to move out,
Speaker 1: and maybe you've explained this already, but if you have
Speaker 1: the means to move out financially, how come you don't
Speaker 1: do it?
Speaker 2: Like I said, I think, I think it's just kind
Speaker 2: of like a subliminal thing, Like I want to I
Speaker 2: want to respect my parents wishes since they like raised
Speaker 2: me and like paid for my college and all that.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Do you want to leave your parents' house or do
Speaker 1: you kind of like it there?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't mind it, It's just I feel
Speaker 2: self conscious about it, I guess is my thing, like
Speaker 2: because because all my friends my age are all like
Speaker 2: with their own homes, their own families, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, And I'm kind of the only one who's
Speaker 2: still here. Even though I don't need to be, but
Speaker 2: I'm comfortable.
Speaker 1: Do you ever leave the house?
Speaker 2: I do, Yeah, I like go hang out with my friends,
Speaker 2: But like I said, there's sometimes where like I'll say
Speaker 2: I'm going to hang out with Matt and they'll say no, no, no,
Speaker 2: you can't hang out with Matt, and I just I
Speaker 2: just I don't I follow their wishes. I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe they're greenwashed me or something.
Speaker 1: Do you have a more do you have a I
Speaker 1: guess a more compelling reason to stay in your mom's
Speaker 1: house other than you feel like you owe her.
Speaker 2: I guess just my own comfort, which is being content
Speaker 2: with what I've known forever.
Speaker 1: Right, And I struggle. I'm taking long pauses what I'm
Speaker 1: talking to you, because I really do struggle with this
Speaker 1: thing of like, I truly believe that everyone's wired differently
Speaker 1: and that there is no right or wrong way to
Speaker 1: live your life. But if we're talking about whether or
Speaker 1: not you would be happier not living in your mom's
Speaker 1: house and being able to go hang out with your
Speaker 1: friends and live life and not be subject to your
Speaker 1: parents telling you what to eat and what to drink
Speaker 1: and who you can and can't hang out with I
Speaker 1: would hypothesize that you would be happier, But do you
Speaker 1: agree with that?
Speaker 5: I don't disagree at all.
Speaker 2: I guess I guess where I'm in.
Speaker 3: It's like I don't even know how to start that conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like to break apart from it.
Speaker 1: You know, tell me more about why you agree with
Speaker 1: the hypothesis that you would be happier.
Speaker 2: Because I think, even even though I'm comfortable, I think,
Speaker 2: deep down I know that having the freedom would be.
Speaker 3: Better for me in the long run.
Speaker 1: What do you do for work?
Speaker 2: I designed a website cool you from web developer?
Speaker 1: I do okay, cool? So you can go anywhere? Really,
Speaker 1: you don't even have to stay in? What stay you in?
Speaker 2: I'm in Colorado?
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh my god, you can go anywhere if you
Speaker 1: had to. How would you start this conversation?
Speaker 3: I had to?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think the right thing to do
Speaker 2: obviously was just to, like, you sit down with them
Speaker 2: and be honest. But there's a lot of anxiety around that.
Speaker 2: I think most people would have, just just because you fear,
Speaker 2: I fear of the many different reactions I would get
Speaker 2: from them, and you just like never know until you
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: What reactions do you fear you would get from them?
Speaker 2: I mean, in my mind, they could. They could get
Speaker 2: kind of upset about it, just because they've been kind
Speaker 2: of like controlling for the whole time that I've been around, you.
Speaker 1: Know, Okay, I asked this question honestly. Yeah, what is
Speaker 1: so bad about your parents being upset at you because
Speaker 1: you're moving out?
Speaker 2: Just the fact that I'm disappointing them. It just goes
Speaker 2: back to like being grateful for what they've done for
Speaker 2: me as a person.
Speaker 1: I think that you can be grateful for them for
Speaker 1: what they've done for you as a person, and not
Speaker 1: view and not let that gratefulness serve as some sort
Speaker 1: of eternal debt that you need to pay back by
Speaker 1: allowing them control over your life.
Speaker 2: Right, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1: You know, I this is not me. This is something
Speaker 1: I read on Reddit at some point. Your parents raising
Speaker 1: you is not some kind of a debt that you
Speaker 1: need to pay back. Okay, it's I I think it's
Speaker 1: nice that you're being grateful to your mom and your dad,
Speaker 1: but you don't owe them anything, and you certainly don't
Speaker 1: owe them, you know, your birth. Your birth certificate doesn't
Speaker 1: come with a claw that they own all the rights
Speaker 1: to your existence, uh, in perpetuity. So I don't think
Speaker 1: it would be I don't think you need to live
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 2: For sure, I know I definitely get that, And I
Speaker 2: think it all just comes down to in my like
Speaker 2: I said, I'm just like worried about I've always worried
Speaker 2: about their reaction to me wanting to get out, and
Speaker 2: I need to stop worrying about that.
Speaker 1: M h. It's not that bad. It's not going to
Speaker 1: be that bad. People being upset with you, People being
Speaker 1: upset with you is not that bad, especially dude. People.
Speaker 1: People being justifiably upset at you is not that bad.
Speaker 1: People being unjustifiably and upset at you, that's like, that's nothing,
Speaker 1: you know right right? I mean you and I both
Speaker 1: know I I understand that you're afraid, but I think
Speaker 1: you I think you know that you gotta put your
Speaker 1: foot down and it's getting upset with you.
Speaker 2: You were mentioning earlier about being a people pleaser, like
Speaker 2: I feel.
Speaker 1: Like, sure, you know, sure, I thing with people pleasing
Speaker 1: is it's I think it's OK. I think it's good
Speaker 1: to be cognizant of people, but not until it has
Speaker 1: a detrimental effect on you. Yeah, and this is having
Speaker 1: a Yeah. And also you know you're not like A
Speaker 1: You're not like I don't know, disabled and need to
Speaker 1: stay home and like can't, don't, I don't have the
Speaker 1: means to, you know, leave your house like you're you're
Speaker 1: a you have friends, you're like you know, you got
Speaker 1: to you got a whole life except for this little thing.
Speaker 1: And I think you need to sit down with your parents.
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't even you don't even need to
Speaker 1: sit down with them. You can leave them a note,
Speaker 1: but I should think it'd be good. I think it'd
Speaker 1: be good for you to sit down with them because
Speaker 1: you got to face this fear, because it's gonna severely
Speaker 1: hold you back in life. And you don't want to
Speaker 1: be forty and living and you know, still repaying this,
Speaker 1: you know, theoretical debt to your parents and realize that
Speaker 1: you just wasted a bunch of your life. Right, you're
Speaker 1: still very young. You can go out and do a
Speaker 1: billion different things, so you know, go do that all.
Speaker 1: I mean, also, look, people shit on it, but hanging
Speaker 1: out in your mom's basement eating chicken tenders and playing.
Speaker 2: Xbox there's nothing like it.
Speaker 1: There's nothing like it's a great life. It's pretty sick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty That's okay. This is why I said at
Speaker 1: the beginning. I was like, there's no right way to
Speaker 1: live life. I honestly think a guy who you know,
Speaker 1: travels the world and get you know, gets in perfect
Speaker 1: shape and falls in love and has a family and
Speaker 1: you know, gets an award for creating windmill whatever stuff.
Speaker 1: I honestly think that guy and a guy who hangs
Speaker 1: out in his mom's basement playing Red Dead Redemption and
Speaker 1: getting high and stuff. I think both of those lives
Speaker 1: are good in different ways. So you know, you do
Speaker 1: you man?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate that. Gek, I think I think I
Speaker 2: just needed to talk this out with someone and it
Speaker 2: was really helpful. I appreciate it. I think I'm going
Speaker 2: to try and talk with them tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Okay, good, please do And please, dear guy, what's your
Speaker 1: name again, Derek? Derek, listen to me. Do not be
Speaker 1: afraid of your parents. It's being upset with you because
Speaker 1: you want to go out and live your own life.
Speaker 3: Fuck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So is there anything else you want
Speaker 1: to say to the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 2: H No, thanks for the time on appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Take care m. I'm actually about to go move back
Speaker 1: into my parents' basement two and I'm excited. I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get sick of it after I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty sick for like three weeks. That's you
Speaker 1: know what. That's the thing is I and I actually
Speaker 1: take back what I said about the like living your
Speaker 1: life to the fullest versus sitting in your mom's basement
Speaker 1: playing video games of the same thing. I think the
Speaker 1: first three weeks of getting high all day playing video
Speaker 1: games is like if you could have that, if the
Speaker 1: first three weeks was the whole existence of that, it
Speaker 1: would be sweet. It would be better than living your
Speaker 1: life to the fullest. But after those first three weeks
Speaker 1: it the returns diminished significantly, so it's probably better to
Speaker 1: leave your mom's basement. Hello, Hey, what's up?
Speaker 3: Is this?
Speaker 2: Wile?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Who is this?
Speaker 3: This is kay? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's up? Okay? How's life.
Speaker 2: Currently?
Speaker 6: I am dealing with COVID for the first time, so
Speaker 6: I feel like asked, So that's where we're at.
Speaker 1: You have you have Let's see wait, so you got through?
Speaker 1: I mean it's been three years for the first time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, my mom's hast been positive this morning and then
Speaker 6: it just all happened today.
Speaker 1: So yeah, hm, well, I feel like, well, you're fine.
Speaker 1: You can probably I mean, no one cares anymore, so
Speaker 1: you can probably.
Speaker 3: Just go out.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but do I really want to know? It's kind
Speaker 6: of nice in the comfort.
Speaker 1: Of my home. It's true, that's true. Okay, what's up?
Speaker 1: What do you want to talk about today?
Speaker 6: Well, I'm gonna say it was about a year ago
Speaker 6: I saw my sister's booths online with my best friend warmingly.
Speaker 6: Just for our backstory really quick, I am not close
Speaker 6: with my sister anymore. She's about twenty two years old.
Speaker 6: At that time. I was at my dad's apartment every
Speaker 6: weekend and she was living there for a little bit
Speaker 6: of time as well, And basically she told my dad, Hey,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go see your friends for the weekend. My
Speaker 6: Dad's like, okay, whatever, I don't really care. The weekend
Speaker 6: goes by, we've heard nothing from her, only to find
Speaker 6: out that she flew out to California to hook up
Speaker 6: with the girl.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I had to do some internet digging to
Speaker 6: kind of figure out, like what the hell, why why
Speaker 6: is she not home? So yeah, she was out in California.
Speaker 6: And long story short, I started figuring out that she
Speaker 6: was on this platform like TikTok. I'm not going to
Speaker 6: say the name.
Speaker 1: How old is How old is she at the time?
Speaker 6: She was probably twenty twenty one, twenty one? Yeah, So
Speaker 6: basically I found out that she was streaming on this
Speaker 6: app kind of like TikTok. Again, not going to say
Speaker 6: the name, but basically she was producing the crowd. She
Speaker 6: was like on this kind of like a TikTok live,
Speaker 6: but that other app, and she was basically telling me
Speaker 6: what she was on.
Speaker 1: She was she was on a cam like a cam site.
Speaker 6: She was camming basically, all right. So, long story short,
Speaker 6: my best friend and I get into the live and
Speaker 6: we all have our code names whatever. So she's like, oh,
Speaker 6: you need to tell me.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm sorry. You and your friends find out that
Speaker 1: you're her sister is camgirling, And as you get you
Speaker 1: just start hanging out in her live with all the
Speaker 1: guys that are jacking off to her exactly, So what
Speaker 1: inspired you to? You know, go ahead, I'll save my
Speaker 1: questions for the end of this story.
Speaker 6: So, long story short, my best friend Isaac. He decided
Speaker 6: to pay to get into the live like the next stage.
Speaker 6: So if you didn't pay, you know, if you didn't
Speaker 6: pay for the next part, you were just kicked out.
Speaker 6: We were screen recording the entire time, and it alerted
Speaker 6: my sister, which we had no idea that was a thing.
Speaker 6: So so it alerted my sister and she's like, oh
Speaker 6: my god, do not record. I'll let you stay in,
Speaker 6: but cut it out now or you're kicked out. So
Speaker 6: we just kept it going because we weren't going to
Speaker 6: stop it whatever.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, so stop right there, all right.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna not why are you doing all of this?
Speaker 6: Just to figure out why.
Speaker 1: You hold on? So you you find out that your
Speaker 1: sister is cam girl. You go into her cam to
Speaker 1: the chat thing you screen recorded. She expresses that she
Speaker 1: does not want it to be screen recorded, and you
Speaker 1: continue to screen record it correct why.
Speaker 6: It was more this sounds terrible proof for my dad,
Speaker 6: I'm like, she is not doing good things. You need
Speaker 6: to kick her out?
Speaker 1: What why why would you?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 6: Okay, So for in my entire life, she has been
Speaker 6: a pathological liar. She wasn't able to walk at graduation.
Speaker 6: She was just a very bad person overall. So her
Speaker 6: and I never really clicked together. And at that point
Speaker 6: she wasn't paying rent to my dad. She was just
Speaker 6: again lying like everything happened and yeah, so what Basically, yeah.
Speaker 1: How old are you?
Speaker 6: I'm nineteen?
Speaker 1: Why do you give why do you fuck? Why do
Speaker 1: you give a fuck about any of this?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 6: I don't have a problem with like sex work online. However,
Speaker 6: it kind of hit different when it was like my sister, Yeah,
Speaker 6: I grew up with her when I you know, I
Speaker 6: was little whatever. But then she was trying to take
Speaker 6: that route again just from our history and shit, I
Speaker 6: was like, nah, you could be doing that or thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, what's your name? Okay, Okay, I'm going to highly
Speaker 1: suggest to you that, Okay, I'm gonna highly suggest to
Speaker 1: you that you abandon your interest in your sister's I'm
Speaker 1: gonna highly suggest that you abandon your interest in chastising
Speaker 1: your sister's life for any reason other than out of
Speaker 1: out of out of love for her and desire for
Speaker 1: her to you know, be better whatever you think that
Speaker 1: looks like. Highly suggests you abandon chastising your sister's life
Speaker 1: and focus on your own because this, like I mean
Speaker 1: screen recording your sister's cam sessions and send them to
Speaker 1: your dad. There's there's just no reason for you to
Speaker 1: be doing that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was like, it's it's not helpful for anyone.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So we were getting stuff like in the mail, like
Speaker 6: it was for taxes, so like basically she had to
Speaker 6: pay whatever company it was, but she wasn't paying them.
Speaker 6: My dad it had like a weird name. He's like,
Speaker 6: can you figure this out? What I am looking at here?
Speaker 6: I'm like yeah, okay. So then that kind of firaled
Speaker 6: into me finding what the thing was and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Still, why do you like? This just doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: something that's productive for you to get involved in.
Speaker 6: No, but it was very interesting with the outcome of
Speaker 6: it because it was not expecting it at all type
Speaker 6: of thing.
Speaker 1: What's your relationship? Like with your sister?
Speaker 6: We do not talk. I've tried reaching out and being like, hey,
Speaker 6: how are you. She moved to a different state. I
Speaker 6: think she's in Lake Tennessee right now. I'm like, hey,
Speaker 6: you want to talk and she's like, oh yeah, and
Speaker 6: then kind of just dropped everything. Whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think if you have the
Speaker 1: desire to repair your relationship with your sister, I don't
Speaker 1: know if this is the way to go about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean she doesn't know that I told my dad,
Speaker 6: so that was like nothing in the work. So yeah,
Speaker 6: I would love to repair my relationship with my sister,
Speaker 6: but from everything she did in like my childhood and whatnot,
Speaker 6: it was just like it's hard to get back to it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Listen, Kay, I'm not going to tell you whether or
Speaker 1: not you should attempt it to repair your relationship with
Speaker 1: your sister, but I will say to you, I'm like,
Speaker 1: get it and you and the fact the fact you
Speaker 1: say it's interesting, right, yeah, like this was this was
Speaker 1: like entertainment for you.
Speaker 5: Somewhat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I think you should. I think and I
Speaker 1: mean this, I'm not saying this to like be addict
Speaker 1: to you. I think you should find better sources of entertainment. Okay.
Speaker 1: I think, like, you know, one thing that will just
Speaker 1: fuck you up hard is if you don't have anything
Speaker 1: going on in your own life, and as a distraction
Speaker 1: from doing whatever you got to do to make it
Speaker 1: so that there's stuff going in your own life, you
Speaker 1: fuck around with other people. You know, that's a that's
Speaker 1: a and and what I mean whatever, Man, you're like young,
Speaker 1: So I don't fault you for not understanding that right now,
Speaker 1: but like I just I just hope you I don't
Speaker 1: know if this one phone call, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you're gonna understand that in this one phone call, but
Speaker 1: I just hope that you understand that, because it'll just
Speaker 1: fuck you up for it. It'll fuck you up forever,
Speaker 1: like you'll if you don't understand that, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: like the eighty year old woman calling the cops on
Speaker 1: the kids skateboarding. That's how you become that is you
Speaker 1: just have you have no life, and so you see
Speaker 1: other people doing things and you try to fuck with
Speaker 1: them because it's something and it's it's not a good
Speaker 1: road and not that.
Speaker 6: It was just like I was trying to like totally
Speaker 6: blackmail her. I was like, hey, dad, I found out
Speaker 6: what was going on. I don't know if you want
Speaker 6: to hear what's going on?
Speaker 1: But why why? But why why? Okay? Why?
Speaker 6: Because yeah, during that time we she kind of just
Speaker 6: like dropped everything, did not speak a word to us,
Speaker 6: Like hey, I'm going up to a completely different state whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's fucking twenty one years old. She can do
Speaker 1: whatever she wants. She probably paid, she probably paid, she
Speaker 1: probably makes money doing that, pays around bills with it.
Speaker 1: She can fucking do whatever she wants. She doesn't have
Speaker 1: to tell her dad or it. She doesn't have to
Speaker 1: do any of that.
Speaker 6: Right again, it's just fally like the sister part of me.
Speaker 6: I'm just like, ah, what are we doing? But like
Speaker 6: I said, I don't necessarily have a problem with like
Speaker 6: the work online at all. Is just when I see
Speaker 6: my sister, I'm just like, dang.
Speaker 1: All right, Well I listen, kay, I don't know, dude,
Speaker 1: I hope you got something out of talking about this.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer.
Speaker 6: Before we go, let's say people, Well, actually, I'm.
Speaker 1: Real Before I know, I what do you? What do
Speaker 1: you do with your life? Right now? Are you in school?
Speaker 3: Do you?
Speaker 6: I'm a banker?
Speaker 1: You're a banker? Yeah, you can bank at nineteen, but
Speaker 1: you need to like go to school for that.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 6: I got a it was originally a part time as
Speaker 6: a teller, and then I got promoted to the timer.
Speaker 1: So school, do you like banking?
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 6: However, some people nowadays have been really grouchy because of
Speaker 6: the holiday season, which I gets it's busy time and whatnot.
Speaker 1: But sorry, no, sorry, Is there anything else you want
Speaker 1: to say to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 6: Peace? Love, and I hope everybody has a good night
Speaker 6: on the stream?
Speaker 1: All right, take care, carey you too?
Speaker 6: Bye bye. Bro.
Speaker 1: Look, dude, if your sister is of age and wants
Speaker 1: to show her boobs on the internet, you know that's
Speaker 1: that's her prerogative, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it's cool to, you know,
Speaker 1: start telling on her to everyone.
Speaker 5: Call from Brady.
Speaker 1: But hello, Hey, what's up, dude. I'm a gecko on
Speaker 1: the computer. I've I just drank a Celsius Energy drink
Speaker 1: that's a free promotion for Celsius Energy Drink. I drink
Speaker 1: them a lot, and they have like two hundred milligrams
Speaker 1: of caffeine in them, which I think is like the maximum. No,
Speaker 1: I think the maximum, like the the amount that's like,
Speaker 1: if you go over this, you'll die, is four hundred.
Speaker 1: So two cans gets you there. But right now I'm
Speaker 1: only on one and I feel pretty good. I don't
Speaker 1: know what's in the stuff, but I know the stuff
Speaker 1: is in me.
Speaker 5: Well, are you jittery?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I actually feel again, notting Celsius did not pay me
Speaker 1: to say this. I actually feel really good when I
Speaker 1: drink these things for like a second. I feel alert.
Speaker 1: It's like you ever take adderall.
Speaker 3: I have?
Speaker 1: I feel like Adderallly. You know adderall makes you feel
Speaker 1: a way, make alert, optimistic, all that stuff. If you go,
Speaker 1: by the way, for those listening, if you go out
Speaker 1: and drink as elsius and you have a heart attack,
Speaker 1: I'm not liable for that. What's your name? I don't
Speaker 1: want to talk about this anymore. I'm Brady, Brady. How
Speaker 1: can I get you today?
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I just wanted to hear your voice.
Speaker 5: I've been partying so much, thought that'd be cool, and
Speaker 5: I watched you so many I guess years now, but
Speaker 5: I just wanted to hear your voice.
Speaker 1: That's cool.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: What have we spoken before? Absolutely not what you've been partying?
Speaker 1: You you're you're You're talking to me like I'm a
Speaker 1: I'm a lost lover from your life or something like that.
Speaker 3: Oh shocks.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think everyone's a lot lover to me.
Speaker 5: You know, I try and play it Berry.
Speaker 1: Who are you?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: What's your deal? You've been partying a lot?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think too much, man. I mean I got
Speaker 5: so much going on. I got a good girly, I
Speaker 5: got a good job. So I just can't stop having fun.
Speaker 3: What is that?
Speaker 1: What is having fun look like to you?
Speaker 5: Having fun to me is waking up and just getting obliterated.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: And I know that's not a good thing, but I
Speaker 5: just love it so much.
Speaker 1: That sounds more like alcoholism.
Speaker 5: It's not even alcohol though it's it's well, it is alcohol,
Speaker 5: but it's more of just like everything that you could
Speaker 5: think of. I've tried and I don't know why, because
Speaker 5: I'm such a good I'm a good boy, you know,
Speaker 5: like I'd hold the door open for Anny old lady,
Speaker 5: and I smile at everyone. But for some reason, I
Speaker 5: just got this demon in me that's like, we have
Speaker 5: to have fun even when it's not fun.
Speaker 1: What what is everything?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Are you on heroin or meth? And like are you
Speaker 1: getting into hard stuff?
Speaker 5: I've tried it, I mean smoked age, but it's not
Speaker 5: you know, it's it's just not what it is, right,
Speaker 5: you know, people say it's all that but you know
Speaker 5: the next thing.
Speaker 3: You know, you're just a loser.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like a loser?
Speaker 5: No, not at all.
Speaker 3: I love my life.
Speaker 5: I got a beautiful fucking girly.
Speaker 3: I got a beautiful job.
Speaker 5: I mean, I got my own place. I mean, it's
Speaker 5: pretty much more than most people.
Speaker 3: I like to believe that's.
Speaker 1: Really all you could. I think want in life is
Speaker 1: a good career, a nice place to live, and a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: That's cool. But also, I mean, I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: no doctor, but uh, waking up and getting obliterated every day,
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound extremely healthy. I mean I do it
Speaker 1: with skittles, but.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know you're right, but you know what, Okay,
Speaker 5: I gotta ask you, Jak, what age would you be
Speaker 5: okay with? Diana?
Speaker 1: Why are we are you? How long? How long have
Speaker 1: you been waking up every day and getting obliterated for?
Speaker 3: Oh? Years?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 5: Ever since I was like fifteen?
Speaker 1: Okay? How old are you now?
Speaker 5: I'm twenty two?
Speaker 1: Okay? How much longer do you think you can keep
Speaker 1: it up for?
Speaker 5: I hope I can keep it up till forty. I
Speaker 5: mean that's pretty much where I want to go?
Speaker 3: Is that forty?
Speaker 5: Because I like to believe after forty you know you've
Speaker 5: you've done it, your body has done it. And after
Speaker 5: forty it's like, okay, we're kind of enjoying what we have.
Speaker 5: But I don't want to enjoy what I have. I
Speaker 5: want to enjoy that now.
Speaker 1: It's hard, right, What does your girlfriend think about this?
Speaker 5: She doesn't like it? But oh no, no, I know
Speaker 5: it's a surprise, right, But I mean, come on, I mean,
Speaker 5: what do you have you? I'm such a lovable guy
Speaker 5: and I treat everyone. I mean, I don't want to
Speaker 5: too my own horn, but I really do take an
Speaker 5: extra step to be that good of a guy for
Speaker 5: the extra person that I don't even know, just because
Speaker 5: I know that I'm going to have less years than
Speaker 5: the average human being.
Speaker 1: I like the idea that you're a guy where drugs
Speaker 1: and alcohol have actually made you a nicer, better person
Speaker 1: instead of a dick.
Speaker 5: That's a scary fucking thing. Get yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: So you don't even remember a time in your life
Speaker 1: where you weren't getting obliterated every day.
Speaker 6: No, I do.
Speaker 5: But I was just you know, as a kid, I
Speaker 5: was just so bullied and I always have like a
Speaker 5: tough relationship like my parents were kind of like the worst.
Speaker 5: So anytime I was obliterated, I was just giving love.
Speaker 5: And even when I'm not obliterated, I'm giving love, but
Speaker 5: I just prefer to be obliterated while giving love.
Speaker 1: Are you obliterated right now?
Speaker 3: No? No, I just got off work.
Speaker 1: What do you do for work?
Speaker 5: I work at a pipe factory.
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Do you guys? Do you ever get obliterated and go
Speaker 1: to work?
Speaker 5: I used to, gak I honestly, I'm ashamed to say
Speaker 5: I used to, and then I got trapped in a saw,
Speaker 5: like a huge industrial saw, and I almost died.
Speaker 1: It's a good reason to stop doing.
Speaker 3: That, Thank you, Jack. I like to. That's what my
Speaker 3: girlfriend says.
Speaker 1: How long you've been with your girlfriend?
Speaker 5: For two years?
Speaker 3: Love of my life.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna marry this woman. She gives it all for me,
Speaker 5: and I just wish I could give it all for
Speaker 5: her more. You know, that's the scariest thing, gak is.
Speaker 5: I've always had this nature. And again, I'm not two
Speaker 5: in my own horn, but I'm just a social fucking guy,
Speaker 5: and I can reaccuse where it's I can understand when
Speaker 5: someone is a little bit curious of it. And I
Speaker 5: just got these demons in me that since I'm just
Speaker 5: such an obliterated type of guy, I can really get
Speaker 5: any person to, you know, consider it. And then I
Speaker 5: don't know why I do it, but I turn them
Speaker 5: to the dark side.
Speaker 3: And I like it.
Speaker 1: What what does that mean? What do you mean you
Speaker 1: turn them to the dark side?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 5: You know we started this conversation. You're talking about like
Speaker 5: how long do you think you could live?
Speaker 2: Rady?
Speaker 5: But to me, how I look at that, it's not
Speaker 5: how long I can live, but how many people I
Speaker 5: can influence to live the lifestyle I live.
Speaker 3: And it's not right.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, what do you talk?
Speaker 3: I agree, I.
Speaker 5: Agree it's not well, but I know it's dark. It's
Speaker 5: it's really dark.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: What so.
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, you know this is this is
Speaker 1: I hate to sound like a fucking school principle, but
Speaker 1: this is drug and alcohol addiction, not the fucking Star Wars.
Speaker 1: My friends, I completely agree. Grady. You said your name was.
Speaker 3: Did you just say it with a G?
Speaker 1: Brady?
Speaker 5: Grady Brady like Tom Brady, the dude that deflated the football?
Speaker 1: Okay, well Brady, God, I don't know. This is so
Speaker 1: beyond me. But I'm conflicting. Look on one hand, On
Speaker 1: one hand, I'm slightly uh uh, I don't know, uh
Speaker 1: a libertarian on this issue of Like, look, man, if
Speaker 1: if your prerogative is to go and I don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm using the word libertarian correctly, I might be stupid,
Speaker 1: but I kind of think if your prerogative truly is
Speaker 1: to just you know, spend your life getting fucked up,
Speaker 1: then you know that's your uh uh right is as
Speaker 1: a as a free human being on the earth to
Speaker 1: go do that. But I don't know if it's going
Speaker 1: to help you in the long run or the people
Speaker 1: that you have in your life.
Speaker 5: That's an interesting Yeah, I respect that's an interesting What
Speaker 5: can I ask why you think that?
Speaker 1: Can I ask? You're asking me why I think that
Speaker 1: getting sucked up every day is not a good thing?
Speaker 5: No, bullet? Well, well when you put it in.
Speaker 1: That, uh, that sounds dumb, Yeah a little bit. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it does sound a little dumb.
Speaker 5: No, they think, But that's what I'm trying to fix. Geck,
Speaker 5: I don't know what to do, because you know, there's
Speaker 5: I just I believe that I'm a really good person,
Speaker 5: but I believe I'm also an even better person when I'm.
Speaker 3: Like messed up, and I love to be messed up, but.
Speaker 5: I also love turning people into the stuff stuff, And
Speaker 5: I'm trying to fix that on me. Like I know
Speaker 5: it's wrong, trust me, I don't. It's not like I
Speaker 5: want to. I didn't grow up to think that this
Speaker 5: is what I wanted. But I mean just being in
Speaker 5: it and living day to day. I mean just the
Speaker 5: ability to change a person's aspect or even their day
Speaker 5: by me being obliterated, like I have a higher chance
Speaker 5: to make them happy is all I've ever wanted. Like
Speaker 5: when I was a kid going to school, I remember
Speaker 5: I wouldn't go to school to learn. I went to
Speaker 5: school to make people's days, make them smile.
Speaker 1: Brady, this is one of those times in my show
Speaker 1: where I need to tell you that these problem is
Speaker 1: beyond me and you need to go see a real
Speaker 1: therapist slash counselor person. But now that I've said that
Speaker 1: to you, I'll just tell you this this logic that
Speaker 1: you have, Like what you're saying, Brady, I think you're
Speaker 1: a sweet guy and a nice guy. You have good
Speaker 1: intentions for the Okay, you don't seem like a hostile individual.
Speaker 1: But this logic that you're bestowing upon us right now
Speaker 1: is nuts. Dude. You're saying to me right now that
Speaker 1: you getting obliterated and fucked up is making other people's day.
Speaker 1: What does that mean?
Speaker 5: Like an example of that would be like if I
Speaker 5: go to the grocery source sober, you know, and I
Speaker 5: see an old lady, I smile at her and I say, hey,
Speaker 5: you look nice. But like if I go and obliterated
Speaker 5: the wrong word. But if I go and I've had
Speaker 5: a bump or I've had anything, you know, just a
Speaker 5: toke or just a drink, you know, I can go
Speaker 5: to that lady that's working a cashier and I can
Speaker 5: really look at her and be like, you know what,
Speaker 5: I just want you to know that, like people love you,
Speaker 5: and sometimes it does backfire and then they look at
Speaker 5: me like I'm a junkie, which is respectable.
Speaker 3: I kind of am, but on the edge radio, it's
Speaker 3: those small moments.
Speaker 1: Sorry yet, Brady, you can do those things without me. Ready,
Speaker 1: you can you can tell a person to have a
Speaker 1: nice day without being on cocaine. Ready again, I'll say
Speaker 1: this because you know, I think you're I think you're
Speaker 1: a sweet guy. But you're the logic that you use
Speaker 1: to live your life every day. Is is a fallacy,
Speaker 1: and is is fucked up and is gonna make your
Speaker 1: life and the life of people around you worse. And
Speaker 1: I want you to understand that because I and because
Speaker 1: I think that to your core you're a good guy.
Speaker 1: I want you to understand that and and try and
Speaker 1: take that into like some real therapy, because I I
Speaker 1: don't I I I don't agree with a single thing
Speaker 1: that you've you've said to me. I think hiding in
Speaker 1: you is a sweet guy who wants everyone to love
Speaker 1: everyone and uh wants everyone to have a nice day,
Speaker 1: and wants to be entertaining and make people laugh and
Speaker 1: make people smile. And I can you can I get
Speaker 1: how you can get into a trap of thinking that
Speaker 1: you need to be fucked up on cocaine and alcohol
Speaker 1: every single day to make that happen. I understand the
Speaker 1: math of how you got there, but that math is wrong.
Speaker 1: And I hope you understand that these things that you
Speaker 1: want to do and accomplish, and this person that you
Speaker 1: want to be, and this energy that you want to radiate,
Speaker 1: can all of those things can be done without you
Speaker 1: having to take a bump of cocaine first. And I
Speaker 1: don't know what to do to make you understand that
Speaker 1: more than just telling it to you. But you need
Speaker 1: to unlearn those things about yourself because I think they're
Speaker 1: just going to be very detrimental to you.
Speaker 5: Hey, you know, I get I really appreciate your honesty,
Speaker 5: and I do I take your words deeply, but if
Speaker 5: I can open up just for one second, you talk
Speaker 5: about therapy, and this is the one issue I've had
Speaker 5: as I've had therapy. I have family members that are
Speaker 5: close to me that are counselors, but I've struggled with
Speaker 5: therapy before just because I've been groomed by a therapist.
Speaker 5: And then I had one of my best friends be
Speaker 5: a therapist and he just completely turned to the dark side,
Speaker 5: like the worst team than.
Speaker 3: Being I've ever met.
Speaker 5: So it's both of those has really turned me away
Speaker 5: from ever getting well.
Speaker 1: You Okay, I'm very curious about this because you've used
Speaker 1: this phrase the dark side several times, and I think
Speaker 1: you have it has a different meaning when you say
Speaker 1: it about your friend. What does it mean when you
Speaker 1: say about your friends, well, me.
Speaker 5: Turning people the dark side? You're right, You're right, me
Speaker 5: turning them to the dark side is more of just
Speaker 5: like evil versus like, really drugs is what that is,
Speaker 5: versus him turning to the dark side was more of
Speaker 5: an arrogance high and mighty. I don't care what you
Speaker 5: say because I'm always right type of deal.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: But I'm gonna be I'm gonna be honest with.
Speaker 3: You, Jack. That's not the main reason.
Speaker 5: The main reason is. I mean, when I was fifteen,
Speaker 5: I was groomed by a therapist m So it's really
Speaker 5: hard for me to even trust someone who has that
Speaker 5: kind of power. And you have to listen to them.
Speaker 1: Brady. First of all, I'm sorry that they happened to you,
Speaker 1: but I I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Look look Brady, you don't have to do anything. But
Speaker 1: if you're calling me and you're asked, I don't even
Speaker 1: know if you're asking me. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: came on here just to tell me these things or
Speaker 1: to ask me for my perspective on them. But did
Speaker 1: you come here to just tell me these things, here
Speaker 1: to ask me from my perspective on them? I want
Speaker 1: to I genuinely would like to know.
Speaker 5: Honestly, I came in here to hear your voice. I mean,
Speaker 5: I love your perspective and I've been a long time listener,
Speaker 5: and you do. You've got some very just you tell
Speaker 5: it how it is. And I really respect that, even
Speaker 5: though you have your own issues going on. But I
Speaker 5: do really respect how you give advice even you want
Speaker 5: you want to tell people what to do, even though
Speaker 5: you don't want to tell people what to do. But
Speaker 5: you just have that deep thing inside of you where
Speaker 5: you you know what's right, and I would.
Speaker 3: Love to hear it.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm on the only I I the only reason
Speaker 1: I'm being so I'm gonna be so honest with you.
Speaker 1: The only reason I'm being so adamant in this phone
Speaker 1: call is because I'm on a lot of Celsius energy
Speaker 1: drink caffeine right now, and it's hyping me up.
Speaker 3: I'll sponsored, Oh god, I.
Speaker 1: Don't I don't know, Brady, I don't know. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's beyond me, man. But I I just think
Speaker 1: that you're doing the wrong math in your head about
Speaker 1: the person you want to be. I like the the
Speaker 1: crux of where you're coming from. You know, you want
Speaker 1: to be a posit, you want to be a cool guy.
Speaker 1: Smiling at old ladies at the grocery store or and
Speaker 1: just and follow that. But I just I need you
Speaker 1: to understand that that getting fucked up all the time
Speaker 1: is not the best way to achieve that, uh, that
Speaker 1: goal I think with when it comes to the drugs
Speaker 1: in general, it's like anytime you you take some aspect
Speaker 1: of your personality or of your life and you make
Speaker 1: it a condition that you can only be that way
Speaker 1: when you're on drugs, you just told you just fuck
Speaker 1: yourself for no reason, Like it's it's it's really a
Speaker 1: stupid thing to do. Like any anytime you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm a better person when i'm fucked up, I'm funnier
Speaker 1: when i'm fucked up, I'm nicer when i'm fucked up,
Speaker 1: I'm more whatever. When any you take any positive trait
Speaker 1: and you make it a condition that you can only
Speaker 1: be that trait when you're fucked up, you just you're
Speaker 1: doing that for no reason and it's not going to
Speaker 1: help you. And I want you to understand, Brady, that
Speaker 1: the thing that's causing you to want to smile at
Speaker 1: that old lady is is a is a desire within
Speaker 1: you that has nothing to do with being fucked up.
Speaker 1: So if you get any I don't know. I I
Speaker 1: appreciate that you like the show and you wanted to
Speaker 1: hear my voice. But if if you get any, if
Speaker 1: you can think about anything after I hang up from
Speaker 1: this phone call, I just want it to be that
Speaker 1: you you have a you have a your fundamental understanding
Speaker 1: of who you are and why you are that way
Speaker 1: is fucked up, which I know is a crazy thing.
Speaker 1: And I don't know. It's probably not my right to
Speaker 1: say that to a stranger, but you should. You should
Speaker 1: rework yourself to understand that you can be all the
Speaker 1: things that you want to be with that him to
Speaker 1: be fucked up all the time. Is that a fair
Speaker 1: thing to say? Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's beyond favor, buddy. I mean, you're spending facts
Speaker 5: right now. Of course is an issue. I'm not arguing
Speaker 5: this is an issue. The only thing I'm saying is
Speaker 5: I've just I've I've done this for so long and
Speaker 5: I didn't have any parental conditioning to pull me away
Speaker 5: from this. So from fifteen to twenty two, I mean
Speaker 5: like I've just been I know, I don't have to
Speaker 5: be messed up to look at a lady and say, hey,
Speaker 5: you know what, I really hope you have a beautiful
Speaker 5: day because that's in me.
Speaker 3: But it's also in me the drug.
Speaker 1: And I know it's not but you, but but but
Speaker 1: but Brady, you get your I I'm I'm I'm very
Speaker 1: sorry to hear that you experienced what you experience. But
Speaker 1: I really think at this point in your life, you
Speaker 1: get to decide whether or not certain things are a
Speaker 1: part of you. And I think it would be helpful
Speaker 1: for you to really sit down and understand what parts
Speaker 1: of you are helpful for your life and what parts
Speaker 1: of you are not helpful. And I'm not you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, I if you want to get fucked
Speaker 1: up all day, uh, that's your prerogative. And I get
Speaker 1: where you're coming from. And I'm not going to tell
Speaker 1: you whether or not your your life is going to
Speaker 1: be better if you do it, or even if you
Speaker 1: I don't even know if you care about whether or
Speaker 1: not your life would be I don't know what you
Speaker 1: care about. But I just Brad, I just hope you
Speaker 1: think about you know, I hope, I hope you examine
Speaker 1: the beliefs that you have about yourself and really prod
Speaker 1: at them. Uh, so you you know, are living intentionally
Speaker 1: instead of just letting yourself get swept away by your
Speaker 1: your your habits and entrenched beliefs that didn't even really
Speaker 1: come from you. Does that make any sense? So much sense?
Speaker 5: I really appreciate you telling me that.
Speaker 1: For sure, this got way more. I swear to God
Speaker 1: it's I actually feel This is not an ad for
Speaker 1: the Celsiest energy drink. It's really not, but I actually
Speaker 1: feel like the energy. I actually feel like I was
Speaker 1: fired up because I'm on so much caffeine that i
Speaker 1: was acted like a school principle for the entire time
Speaker 1: of this call. Thanks for letting me do that, Brady.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: You know what there is.
Speaker 5: I just want to tell people, you know, in your
Speaker 5: darkest moments, you're really gonna look around and they're gonna
Speaker 5: wonder what is.
Speaker 2: What means most to you?
Speaker 5: And coming from a guy who has almost died messed
Speaker 5: up on drugs at work, those small moments where you
Speaker 5: just think it's all gonna be over, the only thing
Speaker 5: you're ever gonna think about is the people closest to you.
Speaker 5: So just remember that, don't don't follow money, follow the
Speaker 5: moments of people.
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling, Brady. I love you, dude. Sometimes with
Speaker 1: this show, I'm like, I'm gonna probably watch this phone
Speaker 1: call back and be like, how the who the fuck
Speaker 1: is this guy that's talking right now? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm in over my head with a lot of this shit.
Speaker 3: I meant.
Speaker 1: I don't take back anything that I said. I hope
Speaker 1: it got through Brady in some way. I think he's
Speaker 1: a good guy. But yeah, I don't know. I'm in
Speaker 1: over my head doing this shit. But you know, it's
Speaker 1: my life now.
Speaker 3: This is what I do.
Speaker 1: I I talked to strangers on the phone about sometimes
Speaker 1: crazy things. So I don't know. Let just let's just
Speaker 1: do it. What's the worst that could happen? What's the
Speaker 1: worst that could happen? I don't know. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: let's keep this all right?
Speaker 3: Hello?
Speaker 1: Hey, Hello, what's your name?
Speaker 3: Oh? Hey, this is Cliff? Holy crap?
Speaker 1: Hey, Yeah, what's up Cliff? What's going on?
Speaker 3: Baby? I am just having a nice Friday. You're gonna
Speaker 3: go out and see my girlfriend to night and have
Speaker 3: some drinks and doing good man?
Speaker 1: That's cool, man. I like I like the base, I
Speaker 1: like a baseline life, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: a baseline day, Like no one died, nothing amazing happened.
Speaker 1: It's just you going to eat food with a person
Speaker 1: that you like. That's a good day. Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's good.
Speaker 3: I mean I went to the dentist or that.
Speaker 1: That that didn't change a single thing in my opinion. Cliff,
Speaker 1: what's what's up man? Would you want to talk about today?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, I wanted your thoughts on what men who
Speaker 3: do aerial filks are supposed to wear pants wise, because
Speaker 3: like a lot of other students in the class, like
Speaker 3: it's mostly women, and a lot of them were like
Speaker 3: really really tight yoga pants, you know the kind that
Speaker 3: like have the stitch and the butt.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: For me to answer this question, I need you to
Speaker 1: explain exactly what the hell you are talking about.
Speaker 3: Oh oh right, okay, So have you ever been to
Speaker 3: like I've seen it at the ren Fair or at
Speaker 3: I don't know, a different performance like you might see
Speaker 3: it like like variety shows or live performances where people
Speaker 3: are kind of hanging from like silk fabric way up
Speaker 3: in the air.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like a
Speaker 1: giant it's like a giant handkerchief and people are twirling around, right.
Speaker 3: It's a giant handkerchief.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, Okay, I know what you're talking about. Oh
Speaker 1: that's cool. Yes, do that?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, I really I've really been enjoying that for
Speaker 3: about a year now. I think cool.
Speaker 1: I like that, would you ever do? You should like
Speaker 1: dangle out of a helicopter and do that ship that'd
Speaker 1: be awesome.
Speaker 3: Holy crap, that's really cool idea.
Speaker 1: So this is about what you should work while you
Speaker 1: while you defy gravity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because all right, So, like I said, like a
Speaker 3: lot of the you know, it's predominantly a is it
Speaker 3: a sport, a dance, a hobby? Uh? Anyways, like it's
Speaker 3: predominantly like it's it's email dominated if you will, sure,
Speaker 3: And yeah, like a lot of the women and you know,
Speaker 3: they wear like, you know, like dance outfits and stuff
Speaker 3: where like with the tight like leggings and stuff like
Speaker 3: that and like yoga pants and stuff like that. But
Speaker 3: they really don't make that for guys. And I've figured
Speaker 3: out a system, but I just kind of wanted, like,
Speaker 3: you know, some extra thoughts on I want to see
Speaker 3: what you thought of it.
Speaker 1: Listen to to prance around h dangling from a silk sheet. Uh,
Speaker 1: I think would invite the same amount of criticism as
Speaker 1: would wearing women's clothing. And you, my friends, Cliff, seem
Speaker 1: as though that criticism is is is but a little
Speaker 1: a little gnat flying onto your arm that you smack
Speaker 1: and move on with your life. And so I don't
Speaker 1: really think it matters what fuck pants you wear while
Speaker 1: you while you hang out of a helicopter holding onto
Speaker 1: a handkerchief that's actually really insightful.
Speaker 3: How did you like get into your brain and pick
Speaker 3: that out so easily?
Speaker 1: Well, because like I guess, I don't. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. This is any guy, any any guy
Speaker 1: who's doing a a female dominated activity, if you're a
Speaker 1: poll dancer, a cheerleader, whatever it is, I assume you're
Speaker 1: already don't really care what people think about you doing this,
Speaker 1: and so I don't see why you would all of
Speaker 1: a sudden care about what people think about the pants
Speaker 1: that you wear, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, to be honest, most of my concern is
Speaker 3: how much is when you're gonna show that's pretty much?
Speaker 1: Well, look, look, I mean we're not you're not showing
Speaker 1: any It's like it's just the outline.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, pretty much. And I actually kind of recently
Speaker 3: had to buy and a dance belt to be able
Speaker 3: to I mean that OUB scares a lot of outline
Speaker 3: and a lot of and it gets gets gets it
Speaker 3: gets your bits out of the way pretty darn effectively. Why.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, look these performances, this is you're not
Speaker 1: doing this for the Ringling bros. All right, this is
Speaker 1: not a family event. I assume that's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: These are all these are these are all grown adults
Speaker 1: who can handle.
Speaker 3: A little bit of.
Speaker 1: A bulge.
Speaker 3: I think, you know what. In fact, one of the
Speaker 3: places that I really kind of would like to perform
Speaker 3: eventually when I get my confidence level high enough is
Speaker 3: at like burlesque shows and kind of like kink friendly
Speaker 3: dance events and stuff like that. Aerialists do stuff at
Speaker 3: those types of events.
Speaker 1: Those people are paying for deliver.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right that, Yeah they want that. Should I
Speaker 3: accent my balls?
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't really know what that means, like enhance or
Speaker 3: maybe even decorate. U.
Speaker 1: Now, now you're on a you're on a different spiritual
Speaker 1: plane than I am. What does decorate your balls.
Speaker 3: Mean, I don't know. You got me thinking, man, like,
Speaker 3: what if I could, like, uh, I don't, I don't know,
Speaker 3: paint it, put like a mask or something, or a smile,
Speaker 3: like a yellow smiley face, or a like. Oh man,
Speaker 3: I could cut the face off of a off of
Speaker 3: a doll, like a baby doll and put that there.
Speaker 1: All right, So you've gone from is it weird to
Speaker 1: wear yoga pants to Hey, I've got an idea. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna cut the face off of a doll and put
Speaker 1: it on my dick.
Speaker 3: You know what you gained?
Speaker 1: You've gained so much confidence over the course of this call,
Speaker 1: and I'm very happy to see it.
Speaker 3: This is the effect. This is the get effect.
Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm just along for the ride.
Speaker 3: This is all you. Oh wow, that's awesome. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Where are you? Where can I see?
Speaker 3: Where?
Speaker 1: Where is this?
Speaker 2: What do you?
Speaker 1: Where do you do this?
Speaker 3: I'm in Charlotte. It actually when you came to Charlotte recently,
Speaker 3: I held the door for you, and you told my
Speaker 3: girlfriend and I that we're going to go crazy that night,
Speaker 3: and it would meant a lot to me to get
Speaker 3: a little picture with you and stuff. So that was awesome.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Hmm.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think what h what was it about
Speaker 1: you say that you're gonna go crazy tonight?
Speaker 3: I don't know. But after the show, I just happened
Speaker 3: to be like by the door and we just kind
Speaker 3: of like got up and skid oudled and held the
Speaker 3: door for it, and you were like, we made I
Speaker 3: can't contact earlier, and I was all like, oh I
Speaker 3: noticed me and and yeah, and then we just said, hey,
Speaker 3: why you're in me and greeten outside? And I don't
Speaker 3: know what. I don't know why you said that. We
Speaker 3: actually had a really tame night that night. I wish
Speaker 3: we had gone crazy.
Speaker 1: Were you wearing yoga pants with your penis bulging out
Speaker 1: in them?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I wasn't.
Speaker 3: Maybe you know, maybe I should have.
Speaker 1: I have no comment on whether or not you should have.
Speaker 1: But okay, what's your girlfriend think about this? You have
Speaker 1: a girl, you're you have you're in a relationship.
Speaker 3: Yeah for three years going great? She's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is a woman in your life who loves you?
Speaker 1: Know whether or not you wear women's clothing? Isn't that
Speaker 1: a cuzy? You're so lucky, that's amazing.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm actually looking for like dance, like they do
Speaker 3: make dance leggings for men. I don't know, you know,
Speaker 3: because like if you wear like women's dance leggings, there's
Speaker 3: a stitch there that, man, it is not comfortable.
Speaker 1: What does she do is she does she play rugby?
Speaker 3: She? Oh? She she does cosplay. She likes to make
Speaker 3: costplay and is very supportive of me doing silks and
Speaker 3: is just the coolest cutie you ever meet, purple hair.
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: Cliff, you and your name is Cliff, Cliff, you got
Speaker 1: a cool life? Goy? Do you do you have any
Speaker 1: advice for me?
Speaker 2: How do I?
Speaker 3: How do I live?
Speaker 1: I want to live like you man, doing whatever you want.
Speaker 1: You're you're in love, You're getting you honor me hm hm.
Speaker 3: You know what, I think I could actually say the
Speaker 3: same thing back to you exactly. You are living your life.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you're in love with things you are. You
Speaker 3: have a successful show going on that you're touring with.
Speaker 3: That's amazing. And man, you're just like going out some
Speaker 3: decent widinds of people while also remaining humble. I don't know,
Speaker 3: maybe we both just need to kind of like keep
Speaker 3: you know, keep up with good work. I guess you know,
Speaker 3: you know what?
Speaker 1: You know what, Cliff, You're right, I am awesome, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to start uh being a being a real
Speaker 1: dick about it.
Speaker 3: Look well, okay, Uh, you know what, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I can.
Speaker 1: Support I'm just I'm just, I'm just I don't know
Speaker 1: why I'm talking the way that I'm talking.
Speaker 3: Unless you're a dick about it. Unless you're a dick
Speaker 3: about it while you're like decorated with the cutoff baby
Speaker 3: doll head or decorated or something like that, you're.
Speaker 1: A crazy cl you know what, I I you know,
Speaker 1: it's funny. I'm very happy to hear that. When we met,
Speaker 1: I said to you that you two are going to
Speaker 1: go crazy tonight because I you because I I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is. But and now that I've talked
Speaker 1: to you, there's got to be something about your face
Speaker 1: that expresses your personality, because you seem like the kind
Speaker 1: of guy that's that's gonna go crazy tonight.
Speaker 3: I wonder. Yeah, so well it was Friday night, so
Speaker 3: so yeah, I go crazy on Friday night.
Speaker 1: Cliff? Is there I think else you want to say
Speaker 1: to the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 3: Man, the people of computer. I was gonna say, hey, one,
Speaker 3: do be you do your thing, and man, I really
Speaker 3: appreciate everything you do for the people of the computer
Speaker 3: of which I won. And man, thanks for talking to me.
Speaker 3: Holy crap, this has been an honor.
Speaker 1: Thanks Cliff. I appreciate it. And by the way, you know,
Speaker 1: if it makes you feel any better, these gecko pants
Speaker 1: that I wear are pretty close to yoga pants style fabrics.
Speaker 3: So I bet you we are.
Speaker 1: You know there were We're in the same boat here.
Speaker 3: All right. Man, Well, hey, keep keep the boys comfortable
Speaker 3: while you're sitting there.
Speaker 1: Thank you, brother.
Speaker 3: Take care Cliff, all right, take care of a great one. Man.
Speaker 1: Cliff's a nice guy. I agree with what he said.
Speaker 1: Be you, you know, do what you want in this life,
Speaker 1: unless if what you want to do is kill people.
Speaker 1: I mean even then you know no, actually no, you
Speaker 1: shouldn't do that. You shouldn't you shouldn't kill people. That's
Speaker 1: my official. You can quote me on that. You can
Speaker 1: quote me saying that.
Speaker 2: Never kid goes on the line taking your phone calls
Speaker 2: every night.
Speaker 1: Never be kid goes doing to ride. Who's teaching you aloud?
Speaker 1: In the matter of your
Speaker 5: Life, but he's not really an expert.