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Speaker 1: the Giants Podcast Network. Welcome to the newest Giants Little Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is John Schmelt. The Giants have hired Joe

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Speaker 1: Shane as our next general manager. Our own Shawn O'Hara

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Speaker 1: has a one on one interview exclusive to us right

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Speaker 1: manager Joe Shane. Hey, Giants fans, I'm Sean O'Hara and

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Speaker 1: I am honored to be joined and to welcome to

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants the new general manager, Joe Shane. Joe,

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Speaker 1: congratulations on becoming the new general manager of the New

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Speaker 1: York Giants. I've got to say I'm sure, that's probably

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Speaker 1: gonna think about a while. I used to for you

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Speaker 1: being introduced that way. But what has this whole process

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Speaker 1: been like for you? Yeah, it's really been a whirlwind,

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Speaker 1: probably the last two weeks, just from the initial uh

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Speaker 1: and you know, I was first up with the Giants

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Speaker 1: to interview. It was a really good process. The first

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Speaker 1: asked to interview me as well, so you know, you're

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Speaker 1: So it's really been a whirlwind. But ever since I've

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Um definitely staying busy, and it's

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Speaker 1: really been a good experience. It sounds like a lot

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Speaker 1: of excitement and not a lot of sleep. But what

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Speaker 1: did you learn about yourself? During this whole process. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just think my experience, you know, whether it was

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Speaker 1: build on the different rosters and the way we built rosters,

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Speaker 1: or the different leaders that I've been under, or the

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Speaker 1: different teams while we had success while we didn't have success,

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Speaker 1: and just building on my experience through the questions that

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Speaker 1: You're right about to sleep, you know. I think it's

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Speaker 1: bad move. Um As you write down some of those

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Speaker 1: So um, you know that's kind of how I foresee

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Speaker 1: do you do that individually? Yeah, And it's the fact

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Speaker 1: started with this question. But what is it about the

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Speaker 1: New York Giants that that attracted you so much? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's again. I'm from Indiana, so you know, I told

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Speaker 1: But you know, from then on, you know that, you know,

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Speaker 1: I was a Giants fan because of Mark Bavarro and

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Speaker 1: history of the franchise. UM. You know Mr Mara, Tish family.

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Speaker 1: You know, both of them have amazing relationships around our

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Speaker 1: like a very good fit. Yeah, great fit indeed. And

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get the chance to to see your your

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Speaker 1: introductory press conference. Uh real quick, what what are you

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Speaker 1: doing to get ready? And do you know what you're wearing? Uh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I know what I'm wearing. My wife picked that

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Speaker 1: I think if if I just if I'm just myself.

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't be too bad a deal. No, I think

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Speaker 1: that'll be just fine. Joe, thanks so much for the time.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations and I'll let you get to work all right.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me appreciate it. That's Giants general manager

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Speaker 1: Joe Shane. We thank him, and we thank Sean O'Hara

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Speaker 1: for the interview right here on the JOHNT Subtle Podcast.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Everybody,