1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: What's going on everybody? John Middletop The Three and Out 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: Podcast brought to you live aka recorded because it's a podcast. 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Colin Coward Podcast Network got a big show coming up today, 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: gonna touch on Matt Ryan and his new deal and 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: why I like it. Looking back a couple of weeks 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: removed from the draft, some trades that should have been done, 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: uh that we're not done, and just my thoughts and 8 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: my ever growing philosophies on what to do in the 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: first round when you're presented with a big trade package. 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: And then the way that these rookie quarterbacks right now 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: are being treated by their organizations Baker, Sam Donald, Josh Allen, 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: and just the way they're approaching you know, whether the 13 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: competition is open or whether it's not. But wherever you 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: subscribe to your podcast and if you do it in iTunes, 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: and we'll get to these later, as we do on 16 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: every podcast. I'll answer some of your questions. Just go 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: to subscribe rate and in the review section you can 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: leave a comment, and in that comment leave a question 19 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: about anything college football. We actually have kind of an 20 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: interesting college football nugget question today, obviously the NFL, and 21 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: I'll get to him at the end of every podcast. 22 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 1: But let's start here. Matt Ryan just signed a massive deal, 23 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: the most expensive deal in league history, averaging that the 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: agents and NFL executives they love the term average per year. 25 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: I I don't give a shit. The The only thing 26 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: I ever care about is how much truly guaranteed. Like 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 1: like in baseball, if you sign a hundred fifty million 28 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: dollar deal, I don't care how it breaks down per year. 29 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: I just know you have a hundred and fifty million 30 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: dollars coming to you. Football, that's not the case. What 31 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: is the guaranteed cash? Like Jimmy Garoppolo signed the biggest 32 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: deal ever in NFL history, average per year but as 33 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: but a total guarantee was not. It got trumped by 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. I think Jimmy was seventy four million. Kirk 35 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: Cousins obviously got a little over eighty four million. Then 36 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan flew by them all and well deserved and 37 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: got a hundred million dollars. I think this is probably 38 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: the easiest contract the Atlanta Falcons will ever sign, and 39 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: I think most of you will go God. You know, 40 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan's a little bit overrated. He always leaves a 41 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: little bit to be desired, And I'd argue, beside maybe 42 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady, every quarterback does. Uh. If 43 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: you don't have one of those two guys, you're always 44 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: gonna be wishing you had, you know a little bit better. 45 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: But to me, Matt Ryan is in the crew of 46 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: the next group of guys, which is Russell Wilson, which 47 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: is Matt Ryan. I'd also probably put Drew Brees up 48 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: there with Rodgers and Brady. But when you look at 49 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: what Matt Ryan brings the table when you're signing a 50 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, like, let's face it, what the forty divers 51 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: are doing and I support the contract is a massive 52 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: projection that Jimmy Garoppolo. Think about this. Jimmy Garoppolo has 53 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: never gone into an offseason as a starter like this. 54 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: These O t A s that are coming up are 55 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: the first ones he's ever manned as the starter. He's 56 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: never started more than half the games in a regular city. 57 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: Has seven career starts, and it was an easy signing. 58 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: Same thing with Minnesota eighty four. They didn't even flinch. 59 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: They think they could win the Super Bowl. With Kirk Cousins, 60 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan has made the playoffs six times. I forgot 61 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: this and I read it this week. When he came 62 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: into the organization, they were in absolute shambles with the 63 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 1: the tidal wave of negativity that the Michael Vick drama. 64 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: He had just gone to prison, and they had obviously, 65 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: you know, crumbled, Bobby Petrino had bounced. They were in shambles. 66 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: He saved the organization and then he consisted. I know, 67 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: he never won a championship, and he had his chances 68 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: two years ago. You could blame Kyle Shanahan, you know, 69 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: with some of that. But when you look at a 70 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback that you are willing to pay huge cash for, 71 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: let's face it. He's played for two defensive coaches in 72 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: Mike Smith and now Dan Quinn, and I think dan 73 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: Quinn's excellent. He's had multiple offensive coordinators now in the 74 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: last several years. This season actually might have been his 75 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: best work. And I know people are like, oh, he 76 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: didn't look anywhere near he had his offensive coordinator with 77 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: Steve Sarksian. I think Steve Sarksian is one of the 78 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: most overrated coordinators offensive minds of this generation. He has 79 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: been given job after job after job and I don't 80 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: know how. I do not think he's very good. Yet 81 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: Somehow Matt Ryan in the toughest division this year in 82 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: the NFL with Carolina and when New Orleans made the 83 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: playoffs and then went on the road in the first 84 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: game in the wild card weekend and one a road 85 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: game where he threw two touchdowns and ran circles around 86 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: the rams and got him and let's call it what 87 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: it is. Also the next round against the Super Bowl champs, 88 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: he had them in the red zone with four a 89 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: plays to go in his offensive coordinator pooped down his leg. 90 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: I mean it was one of the most embarrassing displays 91 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: of play calling I can ever remember. Like what Matt 92 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: Ryan is able to overcome with some of the people 93 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: around him is incredible. They've never had great teams, you know. 94 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: Was it two thousand twelve when they played the forty 95 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: niners at home? And that that was I would say 96 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: one of his worst losses. Just for from a fan standpoint, 97 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: You go, God, you're getting the NFC Championship game at home. 98 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: Look at the two rosters. Now. I know he had 99 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: Julio Jones that year, but compared at that Atlanta Falcon 100 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: steam to the San Franco forty Niner Steam. It really 101 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: wasn't that close. That San Francisco team was also led 102 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: by Jim Harbaugh. He was working with Mike Smith. I 103 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: really think Matt Ryan is an easy top five quarterback 104 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL. He's your classic. Like most people on 105 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: the outside, he's just not good enough, except he basically 106 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: goes to the playoffs at a rate higher than every 107 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: other year of his career in a division that now 108 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: the last several years has one of the best quarterbacks 109 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: ever in Drew Brees. The Carolina Panthers have been excellent 110 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: under Ron Riveria and Cam Newton, and the Bucks will 111 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: just throw them out. I actually think that Tampa Bay 112 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: Buccaneers are gonna be better this season. But a hundred 113 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: million dollars, I'd honestly say he might be underpaid at 114 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: the end of the day. And when you really look 115 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: at his impact for a franchise that was basically dead 116 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: after the Michael Vick Bobby Petrino debacle. This run from 117 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: two thousand eight to two thousand eighteen, and really most 118 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: people are gonna pick them heading into the season to 119 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: make the playoffs again. Uh, Matt Ryan earned every penny 120 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: of that hundred million dollars guaranteed. I, like many of you, 121 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: love the NFL Draft. It's one of my favorite sporting 122 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: events of the year. It's basically Wall Street with humans 123 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: meets football. I mean, it's incredible. It's it's everything I 124 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: want in an event. And I've developed different philosophies from 125 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: being in the league and now doing media and just 126 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: studying the draft being you know, talking about the draft 127 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: a lot one of them and I'll never flinch on 128 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: now is not taking a running back high? You know, 129 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: probably I'm fluid with I would take one in the 130 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: first round, but I wouldn't take one in the top ten. 131 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: I would not also not take a guard in the 132 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: top ten. But I think I've also developed a new philosophy. 133 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: Brandon being the general manager of the Buffalo Bills, has 134 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: has been pretty candid. Uh. It's It's refreshing when it 135 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: when a general manager, even post draft, is very candid 136 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: about his plans and what he was trying to do. 137 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: And I think it's easy once you land your quarterback 138 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: to just say how aggressive you were trying to land 139 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and he talked about how he was calling Cleveland, 140 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, offering both ones and couple two's how they 141 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: were doing the same with Denver and obviously Indianapolis. All 142 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: three of those teams turned him down. And I think 143 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: my most basic philosophy and hopefully one day the more 144 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: you know money we all make in life, you have 145 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: more buying power and you can make moves, whether it's 146 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: the stock market, whether it's by unreal estate. You can 147 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: diversify your portfolio and if you had the opportunity, let's 148 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: just say a first round pick or is definitely a 149 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: top five pick, is like a million dollar home, or 150 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: you could have multiple four hundred thousand dollar homes that 151 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: would be to me, his pick twelve probably like a 152 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: six hundred thousand dollar home. Pick twenty two would probably 153 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: be closer to a three hundred thousand dollar home. And 154 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: then a second round or would be like a hundred 155 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: thousand dollar home. Using this analogy, here's the thing. When 156 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: you just get the one pick, that million dollar home, 157 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: all of your chips are on the table and invested 158 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: into that one entity. Now, if it's Khalil Mack, if 159 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: it's Aaron Donald, you know, hell, Mike Evans. I use 160 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: that two thousand fourteen draft. It's one of the better 161 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: first roun unds in recent memory. You could have quadrupled 162 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: your investment. You you drafted a potential Hall of famer, 163 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: you know, you that million dollar home turns into like 164 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: a four million dollar home. That's incredible, more than likely 165 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: though the history of the draft, that's not what's happening. 166 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: You may get a pro bowler, but you also may 167 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: just end up with, you know, a functional starter. And 168 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: to me, when all of your chips are in one player, 169 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: which is fine if you hit it, and if you 170 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: didn't have the opportunity to diversify your ability to land 171 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: multiple players at a premium, because if you're if you're 172 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: getting multiple first round picks, like definitely, he said, Cleveland 173 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: and Denver were given the option. Your likelihood of you know, 174 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: hitting it out of the park with one of investing 175 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: in the four hundred thousand dollar home, the six thousand 176 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: dollar home pick twelve or pick twenty three to me, 177 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: go up exponentially. Your chances of not missing because you 178 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: got two swings are just higher than the one swing, 179 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 1: even though on film in this example, the guy is 180 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: a better prospect coming out of college. And it's why 181 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: I love what Green Bay did green Bay was at fourteen. 182 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: New Orleans was desperate from Marcus Davenport. They went back 183 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: and they got a first round pick for next year, 184 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 1: and they ended up kind of wheeling and deal and 185 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: Brian Goodikins actually looks like he's gonna be pretty good, 186 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: and came back up and got another player. But ultimately, 187 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: next year, Green Bay is gonna be in such a 188 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: powerful position because if Aaron Rodgers stays healthy, they're gonna 189 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: be really good. But they're gonna have two first round picks, 190 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: even if it is the New Orleans Saints pick, and 191 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: let's say both of them make the playoffs. Like when 192 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: it all started, the Buffalo Bills begin this draft process 193 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: months ago with pick twenty two and pick twenty three. 194 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: Look what they were able to do. Look how much 195 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: buying power they had. Now they traded a player and 196 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: they got right to twelve with the Cincinnati Bengals because 197 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: they flipped their left tackle. I mean, they were doing 198 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: some wheeland and delon. But having those two picks, having 199 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: that wiggle room gives you so much power in the draft. 200 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: Now you can try to take a big swing, and 201 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 1: when you're in the top five, you should And this 202 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: was a draft that if you were especially Denver, you 203 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: were sitting there at five, and because Baker Mayfield and 204 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: Sam Donald went off the board and he I'd even 205 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: throw Denz award, which was a little bit of a curveball. 206 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: Three of the first four players were a little like whoa, 207 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna get the second best player in 208 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: this draft, potentially on their draft board the first. So 209 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: I get taken them. But if Denver is not a 210 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: player away and they could have easily traded back had 211 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: those two first round picks, they already have a superstar 212 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: in von Miller to be able to trade up, and 213 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe take Marcus Davenport at twelve, if 214 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: the gap wasn't that big, and at pick twenty three, 215 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: you know, get the best corner on your board. Get 216 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: a wide receiver, I mean the to me, the get 217 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. The options are endless. Hell, take one 218 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: of the sweet running backs. I don't know, you would 219 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: have had a ton of options. The chances that let's 220 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: just say Marcus Davenport at twelve and Will Hernandez at 221 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: pick three, or hell Isaiah Winn who went next to 222 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: the Patriots. Let's say you had got those two players, 223 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: the chances that one of those two players, if not 224 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: both of them become one becomes a pro bowler and 225 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: the other becomes a good starter, or of Bradley Chubb 226 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: also becomes a pro bowler. I would rather have the 227 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: pro bowler and the good starter. It's just basic math. 228 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: Taking more swings. I would always do this man. That 229 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: That's why I I thought Green Bay had probably the 230 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: best draft of any team, because next year they're coming 231 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: into this draft process the entire off season with multiple ones. 232 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: They can do so much. Even if those picks turned 233 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: out to be picked and picky, they can package both 234 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: of those picks and getting in the top ten and 235 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: get a player if they want, they can package one 236 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: of those picks and move up with their second rounder 237 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: to do something else and still have an after first 238 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: round pick. They're gonna have so much wiggle room. And 239 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: I think Elway I get what he did because he 240 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: had so much success once upon a time. Drafting von 241 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: Miller in the top five. History shows us that most 242 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: players you draft super high don't turn out to be 243 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: von Miller. They just don't. So I think he made 244 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: a mistake. I think that I definitely think the Cleveland 245 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: Browns made a mistake by not trading back for an 246 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: enormous package, and ultimately with the Indianapolis Colts, I thought 247 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: they made a mistake just on the most basic level 248 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: of I can't take a guard in the top ten, 249 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: especially when there were so many good guards in this 250 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: draft that you could have easily gotten the twenties. I mean, 251 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: they could have flipped picks six for twelve and twenty 252 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: three and potentially got a guard that's of what the 253 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: guy they took at number six overall. So again the 254 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: John Middlecoff philosophy, and I'm gonna stand by this. Anytime 255 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: you have the opportunity in a draft to trade back 256 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: and acquire multiple first round picks, you have to do it. Okay, 257 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: let's get to the rookie quarterbacks. You hear this word 258 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: a lot in football, probably more than the other two 259 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: major sports, just because legitimately there's a lot of jobs open. 260 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: You know, football unlike baseball. You know, baseball platoons players, 261 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: but for the most part, you know, you're starting nine 262 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: is set. Now your picture changes, but you're starting fielders 263 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: doesn't change that much. Basketball, obviously, we're starting five, especially 264 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: on the good teams, never changes in football competition. When 265 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: you head into a training camp, there are then on 266 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: good teams multiple key positions, maybe your second wide receiver, 267 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: maybe a couple of linemen, uh maybe a starting defensive lineman, 268 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: maybe a linebacker spot a defensive back. There is legit 269 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: competition on playoff level teams, let alone the crappy teams 270 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: on all over the NFL. It's one of the great 271 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: parts about the month of just all of training camp 272 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: is how many people are competing, not just four jobs 273 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: to make the fifty three, but to actually start quarterback. 274 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: Now is a little different, and we've seen different teams 275 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: over the years handle the quarterback situation with kid gloves 276 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: almost at times. But I think the best example of 277 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: the last six seven years was Pete Carroll. He paid 278 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: a lot of money for Matt Flynn, who turned out 279 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: to just not be a very good player, but also 280 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: drafted Russell Wilson in the third round, so it wasn't 281 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: even a first round pick. But Pete Carroll's tra and 282 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: life philosophy of always compete and just competition at every 283 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: position in every practice, every drill, he carried it over 284 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: to the quarterback position and they competed Russell's rookie year 285 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: and ultimately Russ beat him out. It was kind of 286 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: a seminal moment and it dramatically shifted the last you know, 287 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: six not even I guess what would that have been 288 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: seven years ago. The group of quarterbacks from Carson Wentz 289 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: to Derek Carr too, you name it, they've all started playing. 290 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: A lot of them, begain, Jamis Winston, Marks Mariota started immediately. 291 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: They played as rookies. And if you didn't start immediately 292 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: like Derek Carr, Carson, you know Jamis Mariota, you you 293 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: eased your way in, but you played early. The Blake 294 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: boardles remember Teddy Bridgewater began starting as a rookie. These 295 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: guys played Dak sometimes because of injury. That's ultimately what 296 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: happened with Carson Wentz too, but the organization was prepared 297 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: to throw that guy in there. When you look at 298 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: this quarterback draft, I think there are two guys that 299 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: I won't include in this, obviously, Lamar Jackson with Joe Flacco, 300 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: who I'm sure we'll get in once the football season starts. 301 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: It wouldn't shock me if they're not playing well and 302 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: they make a move. But Lamar Jackson is not going 303 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: to be able to beat out Joe Flacco. Same with 304 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen. Josh Rosen is not going to be able 305 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 1: to beat out Sam Bradford unless Sam Bradford, which we 306 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: all know could easily get injured. So if if Josh 307 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: Rosen is starting Week one, it'll be because Sam Bradford 308 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: got injured. It won't. I just don't envision him beating 309 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: him out, So there's no point and necessarily to have 310 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: a quote unquote quarterback competition. The other three spots, especially 311 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: the guys that went number seven, number three, and number one. 312 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: Two of the teams are handling it completely different than 313 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and Baker Mayfield. Brandon Bean said within 314 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: the last week on radio that the Josh will start 315 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: with the threes. He will start with the threes, which 316 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: I have no problem with, but he will compete for 317 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: the job, and he should a age McCarron. First off, 318 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: it's not a very good player and has proven nothing 319 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: that he should be giving a starting quarterback job on 320 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: any team in the NFL. Todd Bowles recently said, like 321 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Sam Donald will start at the bottom of 322 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: the depth chart. Again, I have no problem with that 323 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,479 Speaker 1: start him at number you know, third, he'll probably end 324 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: up being the two because they just got rid of 325 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: Bryce Petty Hackenburg stinks. But Josh McCown is gonna be 326 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: the starter, as he should be. But Sam Donald is 327 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: going to start out as a backup or the third, 328 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: depending on how they do it in camp. But he 329 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: will have the opportunity, if he's better in training camp 330 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: and this offseason, to beat out the starter. To me, 331 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: that's the Pete Carroll mindset. That is the healthiest way 332 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: to do it. Compete unless you're coming into an organization 333 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: with a legit starting corps back like a couple of 334 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: years ago when they drafted Jimmy Garoppolo. Of course, like, yeah, 335 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: he's not going to be the starter. But in these situations, 336 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Sam Donald, and Baker Mayfield, every all three 337 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: organizations should go about it the same way. Our guy 338 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: is starting the last quarterback spot, so either second or 339 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: third on the depth chart, but he will compete to 340 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: be the starter. Yet, for some reason which I just 341 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: can't wrap my head around, Hugh Jackson has reiterated multiple times. 342 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: He said this before the draft, and then he doubled 343 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: down after the draft that Tyrod Taylor is the starting quarterback. 344 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: He's acting like Tyrod Taylor is Aaron Rodgers. What are 345 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: we doing here? You take a quarterback number one overall, 346 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: and again, like the other two organizations, I would start 347 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor with the ones. He would wrap all off 348 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: season and heading into training camp with the starters. But 349 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: under no circumstances. If I'm the Cleveland Browns head coach, 350 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: or if I'm John Dorsey and I do not allow 351 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson to do this, I don't give a ship 352 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: that he's the head coach. John Dorsey's in charge. He 353 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: can tell Hugh Jackson what to do. This is an 354 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: open quarterback competition. And when you make a statement like this. 355 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: The good thing that the Bills and the Jets have 356 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: done that if it's clear in training camp that Sam 357 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: Donald is just a much better player than Josh McCown, 358 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: they can make a seamless transition. I don't think it's 359 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: gonna be as easy for Josh Allen, not that a G. 360 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: M McCarron is that challenging to beat out, but just 361 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: because Josh Allen needs so much work to just outplay him. 362 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: But if he does, boom Josh Allen's our starter week 363 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: one or the third week of the preseason game. He's 364 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: gonna rep with the ones and have his opportunity to 365 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: be the starter opening weekend. Instead, the Browns have doubled 366 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,239 Speaker 1: down and potentially made this a major issue because if 367 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is at worst hit Tyrod's equal in preseason games, 368 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: the fans will not allow you to start Tyrod Taylor. 369 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: You will have a quarterback controversy on your hands from 370 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: the jump, when all you had to say is Tyrod 371 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: Taylor is our starter headed into training camp and the 372 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: off season, he will start with the ones. But Baker Mayfield, 373 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: like every player on our team, will have the opportunity 374 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: to win the job. He will compete for the starting 375 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: quarterback position. Why would you not handle it like that? 376 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: It slows down the outside noise because, if anything, when 377 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: you do something inconcrete with a player that does not 378 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: deserve it, and especially when you've just taken a guy 379 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: number one, overall, you've created this elephant in the room 380 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: that everyone's just kind of watching. I saw it on 381 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: a much different level. But Dennis Allen's last year with 382 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders, terrible head coach actually a pretty good 383 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: defensive coordinating at over and over and over again. Matt 384 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,479 Speaker 1: Shop is our starter, he said, And just like Hugh 385 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: Jackson's doing, he set himself up. But then in training 386 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: camp and in the games, Matt Shop was so terrible 387 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: and Derek was just solid, and it was clear by 388 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: the fourth preseason game that they had to start Derek Carr. 389 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: But because he had said so many times that Matt 390 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: Shob was a starting quarterback, and he reiterated, and he 391 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: doubled down, he tripled down, then it became a very 392 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: very big deal when ultimately, heading into Week one, he 393 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: benched Matt Shop. Well, here's the thing. When it comes 394 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: to the Jets, and when it comes to the Buffalo Bills, 395 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: they won't have to quote unquote bench anyone. They'll just 396 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: name a starter whoever beat them out. But the way 397 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns have handled this, they will technically have 398 00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: to bench Tyrod Taylor and make Baker may Field the 399 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: starter if he beats him out, when all they had 400 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: to do is leave it open ended. We'll go in 401 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: every practice, will just compete. We'll just compete. It's it 402 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: really is a pretty genius kind of coaching cliche that 403 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll has been using forever that he never sets 404 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: himself up against you know, a wall and where he 405 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: kind of has to fight out of it. He's just 406 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: always open ended. We're just competing. The best guy will play. 407 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: When you say it like that, Now, once you get 408 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: to a point you know where the guy established himself 409 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: and your Philip Rivers or you know, Drew Brees or whoever. Yeah, 410 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: you're just the starter, Russell Wilson. You know now even 411 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: with some of the younger guys, Derek Carr, Marcus Mariotta, Jamis, Yeah, 412 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: then you just that guys are starter. That's clear. But 413 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: when you have these situations with stop gaps starting quarterbacks, 414 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: it's a no brainer. It's an easy one. It's a 415 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: BP fastball. Todd Bowles handled it with ease. Josh mccounselor starter, 416 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: but will be open minded. If Sam Donald beats him out, 417 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: then he'll become the starter. Same thing with Buffalo, which 418 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: will be more difficult, just because I I think Josh 419 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 1: Allen could have a rough preseason, but yeah, I'm prepared 420 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: to be wrong. But a Jim mccarren's a starter. But again, 421 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: if Josh Allen plays better, Josh will be the starter. 422 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: Yet the Cleveland Browns that always have this outside noise 423 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: kind of surrounding them, were given such an easy situation 424 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: to handle and they've already bosched it from the jump. 425 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: And it's gonna become such a bigger deal because everyone's 426 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: gonna want Baker Mayfield to start, just to begin with, 427 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you use the number one overall pick? But 428 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: then if it becomes clear that he's out playing Tyrod 429 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: Taylor or again just his equal, it's gonna become one 430 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: of the bigger quarterback controversies and talking points in the league. 431 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: And it was so unnecessary. And this is why Hugh Jackson, 432 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: I mean you you can the time is ticking because 433 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: I think at the end of the season, when the 434 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: last game ends and they win three, four or five games, 435 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 1: he is like the huge axon is not even on 436 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: the hot seat. He will be fired at the end 437 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: of the year unless they, you know, somehow like make 438 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs. It's inevitable. There is no chance that Hugh 439 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: Jackson's going to be the coach when the year ends. 440 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: And I I'm a little shocked that John Dorsey's allowing 441 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: this to happen because it really doesn't make much sense. 442 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: Always have quarterback competitions when you're starter as a bridge 443 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: and you draft a guy in the top ten, because 444 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: more than likely we see it time in and time out, 445 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 1: the young guy is gonna be the better player and 446 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: beat him out when all the dust settles. Okay, let's 447 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: get to my favorite part of the podcast, the questions 448 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: from the listeners. iTunes again, you can always leave your questions. 449 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: Go to subscribe, subscribe to the podcast, rate it, and 450 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: then in the review section, leave a question. I got 451 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: an excellent question here. First, kind of actually preview of 452 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: future draft players. I don't know if this guy's a 453 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: draft pick, but actually might be. But let's die into 454 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: it from Pat McDonald. Does Trace McSorley, the Penn State 455 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: quarterback comp to Baker Mayfield? Will he be a first 456 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: round first rounder if he is productive? Again? And I 457 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: looked at I've obviously watched his career because of Sa 458 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley. I just went back on YouTube and just 459 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: watch his arm strength a little bit. The first thing 460 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: that jumps out to me is his arm is not 461 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: as strong as Baker's. Uh. The other thing is he 462 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: has eighteen turnovers in his career and really eighteen turnovers 463 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: the last two years that he's been the full time start. 464 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: Of the last two years Baker Mayfield had twenty one 465 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: in his three at Oklahoma, so he didn't turn the 466 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: ball over as much. Now, obviously played with se Kwon Barkley. 467 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: UH this year with him gone, he's gonna have the 468 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: opportunity to you know, help his stock a lot. But 469 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: like Baker, he's undersized. He's a better athlete than Baker. 470 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: If you just watch him. He tucks the ball, keeps 471 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: in runs a lot more, which is not necess necessarily 472 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: a positive. The thing that Baker really had going for him, 473 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he ended up being the number one overall pick, 474 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: but that he was a pocket quarterback. And I think 475 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: when you look at Trace McSorley, is he a natural 476 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: pocket quarterback? That that'll be the big question. He does 477 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: not have a big time arm or just I would 478 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: even say an above average arm like Baker's. To me, 479 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: his arm strength and something John Dorsey said over and 480 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: over the just the armed talent is there, and that 481 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,959 Speaker 1: made Baker pretty special. On top of his elite accuracy, 482 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: which when you're an undersized guy at six ft tall, 483 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: you have to be, you know, a big time accurate player. 484 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: And if you look at McSorley two years ago, in 485 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen, he was fifty basically fifty eight 486 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: percent in that spread offense, which is not great. This year, 487 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: he was a lot better, uh about sixty six and 488 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: a half percent. If he does that again, I do 489 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: think he might become a draftable player. But I guess 490 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: I can't say you completely write him off because I 491 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: would have said Baker mayfields like a third or fourth 492 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: round pick heading into a senior year. I think it'll 493 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: be very challenging for McSorley to have the same type 494 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: rise as Baker. When you think about it, Baker lost 495 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon, some g P Rhyan Sterling Shepherd over d 496 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: D Westbrook and that team that he took with all 497 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: those guys gone, he took a team to the playoffs 498 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: and I really thought they were the best team in 499 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: the country, probably beside Alabama. Ultimately they lost in that 500 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: final four game to Georgia, but he was It was 501 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: like a basketball team with one dude just carrying them. 502 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: So if Trace McSorley has any normous year, Penn State 503 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: makes it to the playoffs, obviously losing Sae Kwon Barkley. 504 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: I would never say never, but I don't see that 505 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: many similarities beside an undersized guy trace better athlete with 506 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. I like this question, Uh, let me find 507 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: it from Kobe d He's I think he's asked a 508 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: couple of questions. Now that the draft is over and 509 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,719 Speaker 1: no football is being played, what happens next for a scout? 510 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: And let's just say the scouts, college and pro do 511 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: they look at film on next year's prospects from this 512 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: past year? Et cetera? What what do they do? I 513 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: think it depends if you're a pro scout. As your 514 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: work in the office, you know, you basically work hand 515 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: in hand with the coaching staff. You're pretty busy because 516 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: right now there are still a ton of street free agents, 517 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: older guys that you're bringing in maybe running workouts. Uh. 518 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: Derek Johnson, for example, just signed with the Oakland Raiders. 519 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: There's a list of guys at every position right now 520 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: that are available, Uh, that are veteran players like Derek. 521 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: For a linebacker, for example, it would have been naval 522 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: bowman Derek Johnson, players of that level. Uh, you know, 523 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: running back, a guy like DeMarco Murray. You're bringing those 524 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: guys into your organization. Sometimes players of those stature aren't 525 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: typically working out for you, but you're meeting with the 526 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: coaching staff and you're doing that, you know, basically at 527 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: least a couple of times a week, bringing street free 528 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: agents into your organization and developing lists of guys that 529 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: if you have an injury and o t as you 530 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: can immediately sign someone. And you're also evaluating every day 531 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: at ot a practice, usually come back as a staff 532 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: and watch practice together and kind of isolating not not 533 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: just on you know, your starters, but more on some 534 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: of the fringe undrafted free agent late round draft picks. 535 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: How they compare, you know, to your veteran players on 536 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: your own team. You're scouring the internet, you know, kind 537 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: of gathering and keeping an eye on teams that you're 538 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: gonna play, teams in your division, players that late round 539 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: draft picks, how they're doing in these camps. Uh. It's 540 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: actually a pretty busy time for pro scouts. Maybe not 541 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: you're only working three or four days a week, usually 542 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: get three day weekends, but when you're at the office, 543 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot going on. For college scouts, the usually 544 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: the couple of weeks after the draft are pretty chill. 545 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: You're really not doing anything. I would say, within the 546 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: next month, you'll get a list of the seniors and 547 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: you have a pretty good idea in your area the 548 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: young sophomores that are gonna be juniors, you know that 549 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: will be underclassmen that our top couple round picks, and 550 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: you'll just start slowly kind of easing in. You have 551 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: the entire summer up until training camp to kind of 552 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: get some initial grades on those guys and maybe, you know, 553 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: start working your contacts and getting some background information on 554 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: some of those guys to make it a little easier 555 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: when you hit the road. I mean, you had a 556 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: couple of months, so this is actually a a pretty 557 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: chill time for most college scouts, unless I've always heard 558 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: the for the New England Patriots is actually pretty busy. 559 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: Like their scouts watch a ton of college film right now. 560 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they're just they're running circles around the league. 561 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: They're just always so ahead. Uh might be a little 562 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: bit of a waste of time. Who's to tell the 563 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's doing it wrong, But but I know that 564 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: they spend a lot of time and do a lot 565 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: of work on on getting ready for next year. So 566 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: I think it's personal preference. Some guys have watched a 567 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: lot of film and take good side notes, you know, 568 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: while they've watched underclassman. I know, in my experience, I 569 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: was just so focused on the guys that were coming out. 570 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: I didn't really mess with you know, freshman or sophomores. 571 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: Some teams do, though, Uh. Every team is a little 572 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: different because some teams like to set their board right now. 573 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: I mean a very very loose board obviously for next 574 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: year and just get somewhat of an idea like what's 575 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: the first and second and third round kind of of 576 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: elite players looking like, So you know, when you're approaching 577 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: free agency, how you're gonna approach it this year. You're 578 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: just you're always trying to work from a position of strength, 579 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: not a position where you have to react to everything. 580 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: So the farther you can get ahead, uh, the easier 581 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: it makes everything. This is a pretty good question. What 582 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: do you think of the Vikings passing on a guard 583 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: at the end of the first round and going with 584 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: DV Mike Hughes on the fence about the pick. This 585 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: is from Schmitty eighty four especially with James Daniels and 586 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: Will Hernandez sitting there. I think this is a hard balance. 587 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: Talking to some people in Minnesota, I knew that obviously 588 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: they loved offensive lineman. I thought they were going to 589 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: take an offensive lineman. They love the guy that Detroit 590 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: ended up picking rag Now from Arkansas. But I I 591 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 1: think there's a balance. And this is why their general 592 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: manager Spielman has kind of established himself as one of 593 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: the better talent evaluators in the league, because they clearly 594 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: need interior offensive lineman, just offensive lineman in general the 595 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: last several years. But when you force a need pick, 596 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: that's usually when you screw up in the draft. To me, 597 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: this simply says that they have an organizational philosophy that 598 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: we take the best available player on the board, and 599 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: when they picked towards the end of the first round, 600 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: Mike Hughes was the best player on their board, and 601 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: that's what they did. And I'll say this, if you're 602 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: gonna kind of bypass a need and take a position, 603 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: it better be a position like a premium position. They 604 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: have an abundance of linebackers. If they would have taken 605 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: a linebacker, and just because the linebacker was the best 606 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 1: player on the board. I would be like, I don't 607 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 1: love it, but they have a legit corner Xavier Rhodes. 608 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: Other than that, do they have a corner where you 609 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: go you know that that's a legitimate defensive backfield. I 610 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: don't think you would. Mackenzie Alexander has been a little 611 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: hit or miss to me. Trey Waynes, I'm pretty sure 612 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: they picked up his fifth year option. He's not very 613 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: good to me. If Mike Hughes, if you can find 614 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: your other starting corner that becomes a high level starter, 615 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: you're in pretty good shape. Because you can never have 616 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: enough corners. Well, I mean, look at the Denver Broncos 617 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: several years ago, look at even this year with Bill Belichick. 618 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: Obviously that Malcolm Butler was kind of influx all season, 619 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: but he went out and he got Gilmore who was 620 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 1: kind of underwhelming, but then when push came to shove 621 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, he started making big plays. Having two corners, 622 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: most teams, most good teams have one good corner and 623 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: usually that guy's a star, like a Patrick Peterson, who 624 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: were Richard Sherman or you know Carolina with Josh Norman 625 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: and they're constantly looking for the second. If you're a 626 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 1: team that can have just two really good corners, let 627 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: alone three, you're in great shape, especially with Minnesota in 628 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: the front seven, so good if you can cover because 629 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: they also have good safety. I mean, how good Harrison Smith. 630 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: So if you can develop two good corners, you just 631 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: look at it like, how are they? How are the 632 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings gonna win a Super Bowl? Obviously paying Kirk 633 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: Cousins all that money, you'd say, well, their offense is 634 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: gonna be better in the big moments. They're not gonna 635 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: lay an egg like they did against the Philadelphia Eagles. 636 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: But also you'd say they couldn't cover the Eagles. So 637 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: you gotta be able to cover in the NFC, because 638 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: how are you gonna win the NFC, which to me 639 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: is dramatically better than the f C. You gotta beat 640 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,240 Speaker 1: Drew Brees, you gotta beat Carson wentz Uh, you gotta 641 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: be Cam Newton. You're gonna have to beat Goff and 642 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh. You're gonna have to beat Jimmy Garoppolo. You're 643 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: gonna have to beat Aaron Rodgers. Like, you gotta cover, 644 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: you gotta get pressure. But you also have to be 645 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 1: able to cover. So at the end of the day, 646 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: if you are going to bypass the need in the 647 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: first round and you are gonna go with the best 648 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: player available, I love it when you go with a 649 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 1: premium position. I want to thank everyone for listening again. 650 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate every single one of you. You're the reason 651 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: why this thing goes on. Uh. You're making Colin Coward 652 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: in the podcast network expand every day by listening to 653 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: these podcasts, and I really appreciate it. Again. 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