1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: They Around the NFL podcast. 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 2: It's Spongos time from the Chris Wesley podcast studio. It's 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: Around the NFL the Flag Shift Program Week nine. Dan 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: Hans is here with heroes Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: and boys. 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: I have to say, came. 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: In to the office today, or I would I should say, 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: you know, settling in for the ten am or the 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 2: one pm Eastern games today. 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking to myself, Oh, I don't know. 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: I do not know, because let's face it, the Case 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: Miami game had a nice ending, but it wasn't kind 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: of what we were expecting or hoping for, which was 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 2: like a glorious shootout. And then I looked at six 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: rookie quarterbacks starting on the slate for Sunday, and even 16 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: beyond those six rookies, a bunch of like backups or 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: kind of journeymen dotted across the landscape, and I was 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: thinking this could be a bad Sunday rough seas and 19 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: then Gregy the game started and we got some bangers. 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: I think this is one of the most exciting Sundays 21 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 2: we've had in twenty twenty. 22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 3: I think this is the best Sunday. Not only does 23 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 3: that have the most big games. So that's important. And 24 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: I think the Dolphins Chiefs was intriguing in that it 25 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 3: felt like a big game. 26 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 4: And we'll get into all that. 27 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 3: But if one Sunday deserves bongos just as a Sunday, 28 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 3: this is it. 29 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 4: Some all hit it. 30 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's almost no close second place. I 31 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 5: mean it delivered in ways that I think to the 32 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 5: point where this is the first Sunday that I recall 33 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 5: the three of us gathered around Dan's screen watching the 34 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 5: old one of these games, holding hands, embracing together. That 35 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 5: hasn't happened a lot in the late window. 36 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: NFL is kind of undefeated when he can get like 37 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: mini classics out of Texans Bucks and what was the 38 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: other one? 39 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 4: Vikings Falcons in week ten? 40 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, some unexpected bangers today, But yes, I think everyone 41 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: expected Philly Dallas to bring the goods and it did. 42 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: So why do why not start there? 43 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: Let's head to Philly where the Cowboys were looking to 44 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: make a statement and the Eagles were looking to keep 45 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: pace or maintain pace a top. 46 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: The NFC Eagles. 47 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 6: Are five stuconds away from going eight and one. 48 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 7: What happened? 49 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: Prescott back again? 50 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 8: He steps up, he pumps he fires and it's caught, 51 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 8: but he's tackled. 52 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 6: Tackled of Ceedee Lamb at the two yard line. 53 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: I think gave us over the Eagles win. 54 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 7: What a heavyweight fight we've witnessed. 55 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: This is great football. 56 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: There you go, mel Ree and Mike Quick with the 57 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: call w IP. 58 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 1: It was. It was a great fight. We talked about 59 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: it on Thursday. 60 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: It's like, hey, Dallas win a game, a mega statement, 61 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: or let's go back and forth, you know, show up, 62 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 2: and they certainly did. But ultimately, despite the Eagles kind 63 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: of doing everything they could down the street much to 64 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: blow that game the Cowboys and this was a theme 65 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: in this game, just we're falling short time and time again, 66 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: ending with that Ceedee Lamb reception and tackle inside the 67 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 2: five yard line. Final score Eagles twenty eight, Cowboys twenty three. 68 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: Mark a lot of places to go here. Yeah, but 69 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: it is that that frustration. So many places mark to 70 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: go here as we as you begin the show. But 71 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: it's that Cowboys that pain. Mark had some anxiety about stuff. 72 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 7: I did not at all like it. 73 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 4: Just the wholeso rides on you nailing the tone. 74 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 7: I don't need anything. 75 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 4: I am summing it all up succinctly. 76 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 7: Sure, well, we'll see if that happens. That's not my 77 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 7: skill set. 78 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 1: And we could we're going to go through them. 79 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: But the Cowboys had so many little micro moments where 80 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: they could have stole this one, and yet they fell 81 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: short each and everything. 82 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 5: The word because I think the theme when we previewed 83 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 5: this was to your point, like, Okay, asking for a 84 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 5: win out of pocket or everything else is worthless, is 85 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 5: a lot, but don't go and fold the tent out 86 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 5: of the gate, And they did not. I thought you 87 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 5: got a really high quality game out of Dak Prescott's 88 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 5: ceedee lamb gives you one hundred and ninety one yards. 89 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 5: I mean a lot of what you were asking for happened. 90 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 5: But there was this like ongoing tussle with like the 91 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 5: football gods and demi gods and various like mythological figures 92 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 5: in this one. And there are these Canwboys moments, nymphs, 93 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 5: you name it, Elvin creatures. I mean, there's all happening 94 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 5: about the people, trolls, under bridge rolls. Yes, yes, the 95 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 5: whole like the whole kitt kaboodle doing great so far. 96 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 5: I keep going, yeah, like we're right on, No, But 97 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 5: I think it started for like that. It to me 98 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 5: it started with these little moments like Luke Schunmaker getting 99 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 5: down a fourth and goal from the Eagles one. It's 100 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 5: twenty eight to seventeen at that point with ten minutes 101 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 5: to go, and it's like the Cowboys on the next 102 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 5: drive they score a touchdown after forcing a punt, but 103 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 5: it's twenty eight twenty three, and you get this moment 104 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 5: where Dak Prescott is racing towards the end zone on 105 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 5: the two point conversion to make it a three point game, 106 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 5: and is it just goes out of bounds, and it's 107 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 5: like it clouds what has been a really good Dak performance. 108 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 5: On the next drive that they have, it is still 109 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 5: twenty eight to twenty three, it's fourth down, and Dak 110 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 5: has on it is the rare bad throw in this 111 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 5: game where he's not aiming at Ceedee Lamb but Jalen Tobart. 112 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 5: It's an off kilter toss out of bounds. The Eagles 113 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 5: get the ball back. There's about a minute and seven 114 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 5: left at this point when DeAndre swipt fumbles the ball, 115 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 5: but the Eagles recover right, they still are forced to punt. 116 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 5: Dallas then gets the ball back with forty six seconds. 117 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 5: They go on a drive that is sort of a 118 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 5: maddening drive. It had like five plays and five penalties 119 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 5: on both teams and it ends with that play we 120 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 5: just heard with Ceedee lamb short of the goal line 121 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 5: on third and twenty six to end the game. But like, 122 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 5: even though these went, these things went against Dallas, it 123 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 5: felt like the Eagles were inviting the Cowboys to take 124 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 5: the game away from. 125 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: Them, right. 126 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: I mean, in those final minutes it was third and 127 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 2: twenty six because Dak gets sacked on back to back 128 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: plays and Greg the Eagles allowed fifty six yards of 129 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: penalties that allowed the Cowboys to get to the six 130 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: yard line. And these are penalties not just bad in 131 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: terms of, you know, not taking care of business at 132 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 2: the end. It was stopping the clock and making what 133 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: seemed like would be almost an impossible ask on the 134 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: Cowboys on that last drive where they really seem to 135 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 2: be in the driver's seat and they just couldn't get 136 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: it done right. 137 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 3: Brad Bury gets hurt on the first DPI. He's been 138 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 3: having a bad year. There was a you know, just 139 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: a mental mistake by Hassan Reddick. There was an encroachment 140 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: by Carter and yet I look at this game and 141 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 3: it's a fun game to analyze because I think every part, 142 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 3: every aspect of both teams had great moments and bad moments. 143 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,679 Speaker 3: So it's not easy like pin blame or this guy's 144 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: the hero. But ultimately it's another game where at the 145 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 3: very end of the game, it's Philly's pass rushers who 146 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: make the biggest plays in the game. The two biggest 147 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 3: plays in the game to me are those two back 148 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 3: to back sacks. And when it comes down to it, 149 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: they have so many different ways that they can win games, 150 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 3: and we've seen it this year. They haven't been able 151 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: to run the ball the last three weeks, and they've 152 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: been able to survive that. And it's Carter, and it's 153 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: Josh Sweat and it's Brandon Graham. 154 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 4: Like it ever was. 155 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 3: I was getting flashbacks to the Patriots Super Bowl with 156 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: that play that Brandon Graham almost ended the game. I 157 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 3: thought Doc did a nice job even just holding onto 158 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: the ball. And yeah, the Cowboys are gonna be really 159 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: wishing that they had taken these opportunities because I think 160 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 3: they played the Eagles well. But it's just not surprising 161 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: to me because Philadelphia has so many different areas, and 162 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: it's always those guys up front on defense that end 163 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: up closing it out. 164 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: Let's talk about some injuries that the Eagles incurred in 165 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: this game. Jalen Hurts will start here. He gets whacked 166 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: in the knee right before the half and he limps 167 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: off the field. They show him coming out of the 168 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: tunnel after the half and he's got a real limp 169 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: and it's like, Oh, what's going on with him? They 170 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: promptly leads him right down the field for a touchdown 171 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: after the game. Didn't make up any didn't make anything 172 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: of it, but it was a scary moment for them. 173 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: They also appear to have lost Dallas Goddard, one of 174 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: their most trusted targets. 175 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: The tight end went down hard on his arm after 176 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: the game. 177 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: In the locker room, he saw him in a sling 178 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: and it looked like he's going to be missing significant 179 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: time as well. 180 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: So they don't get out of this clean. 181 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: We mentioned the secondary injuries on that last drive, so 182 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 2: Philly paid the price. 183 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: But they're eight and one. 184 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 4: They get a buye, they. 185 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: Get up, they get a they're going into a buy 186 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: now to get healthy. They're eight and one and the 187 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: Cowboys are now five and three. Uh, and it does. 188 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: Although this was a much better Dallas showing than we 189 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: saw against San Francisco. God, that's you start to get 190 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: that feeling if you're on the on the Cowboys, like 191 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: are we ever going to get over the hump against 192 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: these guys? 193 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, because you know, in a long season there's real 194 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 5: estate that can be made up down the road. But 195 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 5: losing this game puts you in a tough spot, puts 196 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 5: everyone in a tough spot in the NFC East. And 197 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 5: it's not we're not too far away to think about 198 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 5: which one of these teams is going to get that 199 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 5: that one buy in the And it's like this was 200 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 5: a kind of a necessary lever pull for Dallas. I 201 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 5: think to make a statement and you know, make up ground, 202 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 5: and the opposite happened, and yet I don't come out 203 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 5: of it. I come at it with more faith than Dallas. 204 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 5: This version of a Dallas team could win games on 205 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 5: the road in the playoffs if you get this, Except 206 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 5: they still feel like it does come down to these 207 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 5: final moments and it's like I want to trust them. 208 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 5: I do trust them more up to this game, but 209 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 5: Philly seems like an almost impossible foe in terms of 210 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 5: their matchup. 211 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 4: Well, Deck, Deck's playing really well. 212 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: The end about gaining, he played awesome, I thought. I 213 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 3: think he's been near perfect for three weeks. Although that 214 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: one throw it at Tovert really it was a big 215 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 3: spot and it was like the one really bad thing. 216 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 4: That's what I talking about. 217 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: And the City Lamb, I mean, I know he's been 218 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: huge the last two weeks of them, but this guy 219 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: cannot be covered in this game. He's in one on 220 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,599 Speaker 2: one coverage in the end zone. Give Cede Lamb a 221 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: chance to win a jump ball and win that ball game. 222 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 5: And that one that one spot. Yes, but they did 223 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 5: target him sixteen times. 224 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: It wasn't told. 225 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 3: It was in ferget. Ferguson is stepping up as a 226 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 3: real guy. I mean, he has replaced Dalton Schultz and 227 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 3: maybe maybe not extra, but he's at least replaced Dalton Sultz. 228 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 4: They have certain things to be proud of. I did. 229 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 3: Their defense was disappointing, you know, especially in the third quarter. 230 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: But in the first half of this game, Dallas is 231 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 3: putting up touchdowns and the defense is just letting Philadelphia 232 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 3: do the same. Right back and the Eagles get touchdowns 233 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: in four of their first six drives, but you can't 234 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 3: kill them that much when they forced three to three 235 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: and outs in the fourth quarter to set it back 236 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 3: up for the offense. And so that's why I look 237 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: at this and both teams have a lot to work 238 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: on and a lot to improve. But you said the 239 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: one seed. Look, Philadelphia's next three games before they play 240 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: Dallas again is at Kansas City and then Buffalo and 241 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 3: then San Francisco. So we could be in a different 242 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 3: situation before that Sunday night game against Dallas. 243 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: And I'll throw out the next two games for Dallas 244 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 2: or maybe against the two worst teams in the league 245 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: or two of the three worst teams. You got Giants 246 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 2: on their fourteenth string quarterback and then at Panthers. So 247 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: like I mean, if they could have found a way 248 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: in this game, they really would have had some momentum. 249 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: And then who knows where this division goes. It's still 250 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: wide open because the Eagles. As much as you cannot 251 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 2: take away anything for team that has won loss, as 252 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: we get deeper into November, you don't sense that this 253 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: is a juggernaut, Like this is a team that still 254 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 2: has some things to work out if they want to 255 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: actually hoist the trophy. 256 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 3: But they're figuring it out and winning as they go 257 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 3: to They can't, I said, I mean. 258 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 4: They're not healthy. 259 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: You can't. 260 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: You can't demean them for that, because that's one of 261 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: the hardest things to do is to win while you're 262 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: you know, not playing your best ball. But I don't 263 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: get the feeling that they're playing like at a high level, 264 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: at least compared to what we were seeing from them 265 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: last year. 266 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 5: I think that they keep getting compared to themselves from 267 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 5: a year ago. And you're right, it's and they were 268 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 5: such a contrast last year's team to the Eagles team 269 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 5: from the year before, and so we want what happened 270 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 5: last year, and it's like it's been imperfect. But I 271 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 5: love the by coming up right now because I don't know, 272 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 5: like Jalen Hurts has been testing when been asked about 273 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 5: his knee and when he went down today, I did 274 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 5: not look good to me at all. 275 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: Well, and he looks slow on a play before that 276 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: knee injury. Yeah, and happened where I forget which Dallas 277 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 3: defender ended up runing him down by I'm just thinking 278 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: like that would not have happened if he is healthy 279 00:11:58,960 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 3: I just I. 280 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 5: Don't know if a solves all that, but it couldn't 281 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 5: come in a better time because they're banged up all 282 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 5: over the place and Goddard was playing really well for. 283 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: Them twenty four and three with Jalen Hurts as the starter. 284 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 3: That's including the playoffs in the Super Bowl. 285 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: Damn good. 286 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: So it's even better in the regular season. But twenty 287 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: four and three, I mean they I think winning becomes 288 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: a habit there. They're winners. They find different ways to win. 289 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 3: They can win any style of game. If they're not 290 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 3: running the ball, like they haven't been able to last 291 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: two or three weeks, I think that's concerning, but they 292 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: still can find a way. 293 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: They have the same DNA as the next team we're 294 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: about to talk about, a team that did outlast them, 295 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: just barely in the Super Bowl, where when it does 296 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: come down to those last couple of minutes the crucible, 297 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: they always seem to find a way. That is the 298 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs. 299 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: M let's head to Germany. 300 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 9: Very nice, Well, the Dolphins at the Kansas City thirty 301 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 9: Chiefs lead fourteen or nothing. 302 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: They'll throw it in near site. 303 00:12:54,480 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill him right, Oh no, Tyrek col tumble, recovery, 304 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: cut the side down. 305 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,479 Speaker 1: Pick cups, Bi gets high stepping. 306 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 6: Touchdown chanceas City Whi Edwards. 307 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: Hit Tyreek Kill right in the stomach. 308 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: The ball came out and Brian Cook would not. 309 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 10: Let the play in. 310 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: Welcome to Jeremany, chief safety would turn this out. 311 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 7: All day long. 312 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 2: Chief safety Brian Cook took a fumble returned fifty nine 313 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: yards for what turned out to be the decisive touchdown. 314 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: The Chiefs are up twenty one zip after that late 315 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: in the first half. They hang on for twenty one 316 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: to fourteen win over the Dolphins at Deutsche Bank Arc 317 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: in Frankfurt, Germany. Great vibe, they're great scene. Great job 318 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: by rich and Orlowski and the mccordy and the whole 319 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 2: crew there was. That was a good vibe, good game. 320 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: Fun. 321 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 2: The comeback fell short when Tua Tungevailoa could not handle 322 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: a snap on fourth and ten from the case thirty 323 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: one with one o three to play. Greg This game 324 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: was again it's it's hard to what it's confounding watching 325 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: the Chiefs this year because everything is so hard on 326 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: offense and we're right now back into this. 327 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: It's two weeks weeks in a row. 328 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 2: Where you're just like watching and you're like, man, Mahomes 329 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: is going on and off the field and the punter 330 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: keeps coming out, and I thought it was an interesting, 331 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: it was kind of funny, quite frankly moment when before 332 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: their last possession, their last real possession, they had done 333 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 2: nothing in the second half and they were about I 334 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: want to say, around three minutes left. Don't hold me 335 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: that it was about two to four minutes left, but 336 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: I think it was around three minutes left. And they 337 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: come back and they say, Matt Naggi, the offensive coordinator, 338 00:14:55,120 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: called the Chiefs over and had a spirited, spirited things 339 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: to say. He was fired up, and he was basically 340 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: you could probably guess the context saying, I know where 341 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 2: we've sucked in the second half, but let's close this 342 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 2: goddamn game out because we're the Chiefs. 343 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: And then what happens three and out again and they had. 344 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 4: To to a third down play call there too. 345 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: Bizarre, I don't know. 346 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: So there are a lot of things where it's just 347 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: like scratching my head about what's going on with the Chiefs. 348 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: But anyway, the defense got the big stop in the end, 349 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: and it was the defense that saved him. 350 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: It's a defense Greg. 351 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: That has you know, this team, you know, in position 352 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 2: again for home field advantage. But it's hard not to 353 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: think about the other stuff. 354 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 3: It is, but they're very they're symbolic of this season, 355 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 3: like these are the two best teams in terms of 356 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 3: seeding heading into the day in the AFC. This was 357 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 3: a show piece game. I mean, the NFL network looked 358 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 3: at this at the beginning of the season. They thought, oh, 359 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 3: this could be great, and it ended up being a winner. 360 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: But like twenty the rest of twenty twenty three, defenses 361 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 3: are winning like points are down, yards are down, big 362 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 3: players are down. Everything is down, and even in a 363 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 3: game like this, it's kind of about the defense. The 364 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 3: Kansas City blitz forced panic from two a tongue of 365 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 3: Iiloa on that fourth down play with all the movement 366 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 3: that was happening before the snap and the offensive line, 367 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 3: and that was the case for most of the day. 368 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 3: They lead the NFL in negative EPA created when they blitz, 369 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 3: and you saw it. 370 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 4: On the last two drives. 371 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 3: The Dolphins got two different chances after they had already 372 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 3: caught up twenty one to fourteen, which was largely because 373 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 3: of their defense holding the Chiefs under fifty yards fifty 374 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 3: in the second half, forcing a turnover on Mahomes, which 375 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: gave them a short field, and they took advantage of that. 376 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 3: And they give them two different chances in the fourth 377 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 3: quarter to go make a drive, and the Dolphins are 378 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: driving on one of them, and Willie Gay hits Ahmed 379 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 3: for a negative six and that was on a run 380 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: blitz and then to a sack the very next play 381 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 3: for eleven yards that ruins one drive. Then they get 382 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: the ball back. Moster hits it for over forty yards 383 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 3: on two runs and it's the blitz again those next 384 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 3: four plays a couple times that that gets to him 385 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: and disrupts them. And I kind of wish that scene 386 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: Raheem Mostered again because he was cooking at that point, 387 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 3: and I do wonder and McDaniel regrets that because ultimately 388 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 3: their passing game was out of sync and had a 389 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 3: lot of self inflicted wounds, but a lot of it 390 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 3: was because the Chiefs were making them overthink. 391 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Dolphins, you know, atypical to everything else we've 392 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 5: seen this season except when they seem to play Super 393 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 5: Bowl contenders, did not convert a third down until six 394 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 5: minutes left in the third quarter, and it looked like it. 395 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 5: And it's like I thought this was one game where 396 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 5: Tua and Miami kept getting into second and long, third 397 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 5: and long. 398 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 7: They were not making the plays. The early three quarters, 399 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 7: they couldn't do much. 400 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 5: And like I, this is a star even though defenses 401 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 5: might be you know, trending up in across the league. 402 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 5: Like all we we asked questions about Kansas City's offense 403 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 5: week upt a week and that's fine, but they have 404 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 5: like a super Bowl level star defense, like Trent McDuffie 405 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 5: is has been out of this world and like, these 406 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 5: guys are making plays. And I thought that today Steve 407 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 5: Spagnola like to basically undo Miami's passing game. 408 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 7: The way they did was a real feat. 409 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 5: And it leaves me with some questions about Miami because 410 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 5: when they've had to go and play the better teams, 411 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 5: this offense has not shown up the way it has 412 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 5: against lesser company. 413 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 4: Offense hasn't been good enough against good teams. 414 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: That's yeah. 415 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 2: They're now zero and three against you know, every big 416 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: team they've faced, and they can and Dolphins fans. 417 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 4: Great today by the way their defense standing. 418 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 7: It was their best defensive showing it and they. 419 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: Say, oh, that's just you know, everyone's talking about that. 420 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: It's like, well, it's true. Like that is now three 421 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 2: true Super Bowl contenders you've faced, and they've all beaten you, 422 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 2: and this one, you least you made it interesting. But 423 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 2: you got your butt handed to you at the half 424 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 2: and then weren't able to dig out of the hole. 425 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: And yeah, you got to put I mean you got 426 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: to put the loss on Tua ultimately, I think because 427 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: there are two plays. Two plays again, if you want 428 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: to be you want to be seen as a contender, 429 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: you need to get bigger when the when the moment rise, 430 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: when the crucible of the game arrives late in the game, 431 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 2: he has Cedric Wilson open wide open for a touchdown 432 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 2: and he boofs it. He throws some type of moon 433 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 2: ball up. 434 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 4: Was a miscommunication. 435 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 3: He clearly thought Wilson was gonna look at the coverage 436 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 3: break off the route. 437 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: And he was wide open. 438 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 2: He beat his man and was and waving his hands 439 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: and it didn't get close to him. 440 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 10: Uh. 441 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 2: And then right after that he's unable to hold on 442 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: to the snap and that leads to the turnover. 443 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: Here's too on those two plays, that essentially decided. 444 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 11: Things with what happened with me and said that was 445 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 11: just miscommunication. And you know, in big time moments, those 446 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 11: things like that can happen. So you know, I I 447 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 11: I gotta throw a better ball. 448 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: You know, it was just miscommunication there. 449 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 11: And then with with the last play of the game. 450 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 11: I mean, I'm always gonna blame myself. I I you know, 451 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 11: I got to catch the ball. So whether that's getting 452 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 11: in a in a better position to catch it or 453 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 11: whatever it is. Can't end the game like that when 454 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 11: we have an opportunity like that against a really good team. 455 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 2: And I'm not going to flame Tua like overly because listen, 456 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 2: ultimately it was against a very good defense and the 457 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: snap could have been better and if there's a miscommunication there, 458 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: that there is. But at the same time, you have 459 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 2: to find a way in that spot, and he didn't, 460 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 2: and they didn't. 461 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 3: No, they're an offensive team and they were sloppy. Sometimes 462 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 3: the game is lost in the first half. Like Tua's 463 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 3: best throws of the day were totally blown by his teammates. 464 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 3: They also had injuries on the offensive. I think about 465 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: the great back shoulder he had to Tyreek Hill, except 466 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 3: in the first half, except there was an illegal shift 467 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 3: on Cedric Wilson where he just like messes it up. 468 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 3: That's points, Dan, like, that's either three points or seven points. 469 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 3: They were inside the twenty five at that point. I 470 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: think of the beautiful ball to throw to Tyreek Hill 471 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 3: that he just dropped. Those were points that was in 472 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 3: field goal reigns. That brings it back. And then you 473 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 3: think on the other side, not that there was incredible 474 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 3: offensive execution, but sometimes it's the little plays and Rashi 475 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 3: Rice making that diving play on third and five near 476 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 3: his own end zone to keep a drive going when 477 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 3: they were really struggling that ends up turning into a touchdown. 478 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 3: It's kind of a boring answer, but it's like they 479 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 3: just executed better. Like the Dolphins offense had a lot 480 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 3: more mistakes than the Chiefs. 481 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 5: It does not look this way in the box score, 482 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 5: but I thought that the Chiefs there were little moments 483 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 5: of hope where they got some helping hands because the 484 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 5: Dolphins defense mcfonto did a nice job of essentially removing 485 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 5: Travis Kelce from this game, but Kadarius Tony had little moments. 486 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 5: Sky Moore had a big catch on second and twelve 487 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 5: Jerreed McKinnon had that catch and run into the end 488 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 5: Zone's like, it's just it's a start. 489 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 7: Rashie Rice, I. 490 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 5: Think, is like becoming the guy you hope he can become. 491 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 5: And it's like it doesn't look like a whole sale 492 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 5: operation at this point. But it was a better than 493 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 5: it was better than other weeks considering Kelsey was a raised. 494 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: Just absolutely disagree. 495 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 2: I thought it was more disheartening as the season's going 496 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,479 Speaker 2: deeper now, and it made me think about how, oh 497 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 2: the trade deadline just happened and they sat on their 498 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 2: hands and didn't bring in another real weapon here, I thought, 499 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: Rashid Rice, he gets the touchdown on the first drive, 500 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: he has that great catch there, and that's good. Those 501 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: are the only two targets he had in the game. 502 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 2: And there are other moments in the game where you're 503 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 2: just like looking, who's gonna make a play that the 504 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 2: three and out after the NAGGI come to Jesus conversation, 505 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 2: it's third and what half a yard? 506 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 3: And that's sort of on mahomes the team. 507 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 2: And this is what and and Mark you know this 508 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 2: the Chiefs Browns playoff game a few years back on 509 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 2: that ballzy call with the backup quarterback on third and short, 510 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: Like they've had so many plays in their back pocket 511 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: where they're confident they could execute a pass play in 512 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: those situations. But the fact that that was like no, hope. 513 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: I was like, who are these guys? And I don't know. 514 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: I don't want to say because Kelsey could easily go 515 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: off Greg for ten for two oh five and three 516 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: their next game, So I'm not gonna say anything. I'm 517 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: just saying, like, there's been a lot more quiet games 518 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 2: from him this year than last year, and he's thirty 519 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 2: three years old and there's no one else around him 520 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 2: that's truly picking up the scene. 521 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 10: You want to talk yoh, was just a little bit. 522 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: I think I would not talk any because look, he's 523 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 3: on pace for like twelve hundred yards. 524 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, but we could say that all day and the 525 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 4: weapons around him, I can't say that. 526 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: And I've thought the same thing you mentioned on the 527 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 2: Thursday show. You see it on Twitter. It's like everybody's 528 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 2: going nuts about the Chiefs offense, but they're seventh in 529 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: DVOA and those like, But it's like, no, they don't 530 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 2: pass the eye test a truly dangerous offense anymore. 531 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,239 Speaker 4: I agree with that. 532 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: It's the people around him, and I think that play 533 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 3: at the end. At some point you got to grow 534 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 3: up and let Patrick Mahomes sneak the ball. The game 535 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 3: was literally over. There was one player between the A 536 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 3: and the B game. There's one player between the center 537 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 3: and the two guards. The Miami decided to set up 538 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 3: in that spot like we know you're not gonna sneak it. 539 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 3: Like if that's Tom Brady, if that's Jimmy Garoppolo, if 540 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 3: that's anyone. You're just tapping the center on the butt 541 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 3: and you're going to half a yard and it's over. 542 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 3: And Mahomes they haven't don't Well, they haven't done it 543 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 3: once since he. 544 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 7: Got hurt got Banks. 545 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, So you either got to be able to run 546 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 3: forward with Pacheco for a yard or in that scenario, 547 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 3: you have to give him the choice to do it. 548 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 3: One last thing I want to say on this game 549 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 3: is I think Brett Beach is loving this game because 550 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 3: Trent mcdovey made that play and Trent mcdovey might make 551 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl this year as a cornerback, and Trent 552 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: mcdovey is on the Kansas City Chiefs in part because 553 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: in large part because they traded Tyreek Hill. They ended 554 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 3: up making trade, so it's not as like thin but 555 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 3: as clean. But they got Trent mcdovey in the trade 556 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 3: for Tyreek Hill, and this is the vision, not that 557 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 3: he's going to replace him, but here's the vision. We're 558 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 3: gonna get a couple picks, including one first round or 559 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 3: a premium player. They ended up getting mcduffe and kr 560 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 3: Laftus in that draft, and those are two premium pay. 561 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 5: Absolutely on and that's one reason this defense is what it is. 562 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 5: But flip side, I think Brett Beach would acknowledge, like, yeah, 563 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 5: not only have we not replaced Tyreek Hill, like it's 564 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 5: it is potentially our achilles heel this season. 565 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 2: You know what's gone, The baps, the big ass plays, 566 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 2: they're just gone from the offense. And that's what Mahomes 567 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 2: built his legend on and he was able to win 568 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl last year in the VP without baps also, 569 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: but now you're stripping off another layer this year. 570 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 4: And this just I hear you. 571 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: It's not bad. 572 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 3: You play to win the game. It's it's seven and two. 573 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 3: They're a different sort of team. They're a different team. 574 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: I understand. Maybe I'm just a little you know what 575 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 2: I wanted. I kind of wanted forty one thirty eight to minute. 576 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, Yeah, I think wanted it. But 577 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 3: you know what they ended up getting. I was worried 578 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 3: when I was twenty one nothing. I'm like, man, is 579 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 3: that is this? They gonna get a stinker? 580 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: I can't And I was the one early in September 581 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 2: saying let's let the Chiefs figure this out. But I'm 582 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: just I guess the reason I'm now like honking about 583 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: this is it's like we're a little too late in 584 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: the season now and again after the trade deadline to 585 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 2: still be asking when are they going to figure things out? 586 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: They are the hea, They're a I would say because 587 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 3: of the schedule, they're a sizeable favorite to be the 588 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 3: one seed. 589 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: You are less concerned than I, maybe, but. 590 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying, just they're seven and two and 591 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 3: their schedule, and I. 592 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: Hear you, and you have every right to be confident 593 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: in the team. 594 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 2: And I like, they're seven to two with Mahomes and 595 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: Reid and things could be a lot worse. 596 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: It's just a little strange watching them now. Just weird, 597 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: all right? You know what else? Is weird. 598 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 7: I did like the ref taking a call in German? 599 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, added a gate. 600 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 7: I'm sure that was planned. 601 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 4: Just it's done, number eighty forty. 602 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. We're gonna have to be hooked on 603 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: phonics for this game? 604 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 10: Was that. 605 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: All starting German did? 606 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 4: That's a var rich, it's a var. 607 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 7: My goodness, it's chose Claypool moving. 608 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 5: That game happened about twenty seven hours ago. It just 609 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 5: came to my mind now. But like it was, it 610 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 5: seemed like they probably I think they cooked they cooked 611 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 5: that up probably before, like the guy knew we would 612 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 5: be saying, you know, saying that line, but uh, there 613 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 5: you go. 614 00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: You know what else is weird? 615 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: Remember on this very show a Sunday late in the 616 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 2: season when we were like freaking out because Lovey Smith. 617 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: I don't even remember the circumstances anymore. 618 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: But wild stuff went down that allowed the Texans to 619 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: win a game that allowed the number one overall pick 620 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 2: to go to Chicago. 621 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 7: Oh does that? Greg love that game? 622 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 2: And it was the Texans now locked in at number two, 623 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: and there was so much freaking out about it because 624 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: hy would Houston win that absurd game and they were 625 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 2: not going to get the guy that they. 626 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 3: Want, Davis Mills's finest moment against the Colt. 627 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 2: Right, And so that led to the Carolina Panthers trading 628 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: for the first pick and getting Bryce Young and we'll 629 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 2: get to that later, and the Texans having to quote 630 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: settle CJ. 631 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: Stroud, that feels like a very silly thought. 632 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 12: Now, first down of the Bucks, fifteen ten seconds to go. 633 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 12: CJ gets the snap, CJ looking throwing to the Enzell. 634 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 4: So with the reception, rock Acrol. 635 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: Want to come back. Oh you got it. 636 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 2: Oh it deserves it, you got it. 637 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 9: Strap strap strap struck strap strop from struck struck. 638 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: CJ. 639 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 2: Stroud threw for five touchdowns and a rookie record four 640 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy yards. What the final yardage and touchdown 641 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 2: coming on a brilliant touchdown drive when they were down 642 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: four with less than a minute to go. 643 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: And I love this quote. Shout out to the AP. 644 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 2: Here's what he said, give me the ball, call the plays. 645 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make the plays. And he did so, rookie 646 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: lifting the Texans to a thirty nine Oh keep it going, 647 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: lifting the Texans to a thirty nine, thirty seven win 648 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: over the Bucks. Let's welcome in a friend. Mark VanderMeer, 649 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: he's got that rock and roll play call. Or we're 650 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: gonna start hearing that again. Nick Schuck, we got you, 651 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 2: We got you one and done today. But man, it's 652 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 2: quite a one. 653 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: CJ. 654 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: Stroud, he just locked up. He just locked up Rookie 655 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: of the Year, Offensive Rookie of the year. And I'm 656 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: wondering where he's gonna be on the next QB Index 657 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 2: top top eight. 658 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 13: Oh, it's tough that you'll do this to me right now. 659 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: I mean, what was it? 660 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 14: Sitting twelve thirteen for a while, four hundred and seventy yards? 661 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 14: He just said it the rookie record for most yards 662 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 14: in a game. He also posted the highest Next Gen 663 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 14: Stats passing score of any quarterback in the league on 664 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 14: Sunday at ninety six. 665 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 4: And it was a game that. 666 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 13: Was absolutely fitting of that score. Do I can I 667 00:29:59,160 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 13: explain that scored? 668 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: Please? Ok? But we gotta keep it, keep doing that, Yes. 669 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 13: Exactly, guys. This is a game in which the Buccaneers 670 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 13: went to halftime in relative control. Okay, let me just 671 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 13: break this down for you real quick. They come out, 672 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 13: they kick a field goal. It's twenty to ten. 673 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: Early third. 674 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 13: From then on, they were outscored twenty nine to seventeen. 675 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 13: The Texans drives from there. This is how stupid this is. 676 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 13: From their first possession in the start of the third quarter, 677 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 13: go touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal kicked by a running 678 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 13: back Dario and Goombawale by the way, Oh we'll get 679 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 13: to that. 680 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: Kyami Fairburn was my good punt. 681 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 13: And then a touchdown drive that covered seventy five yards 682 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 13: in forty seconds with no timeouts with a rookie quarterback. Okay, 683 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 13: this was one of the greatest games I think I've 684 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 13: ever seen, not because it was perfectly played football, but 685 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 13: just because it was incredibly thrilling. It had everything, and 686 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 13: the final play of significance made me shout in my 687 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 13: future mother in laws spare pedrim metterhouse. Okay, that's the 688 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 13: type of. 689 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: Game it was, Nicholas, are you Okay? 690 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 13: Luckily she wasn't here. 691 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 3: But I can't believe the buck this Bucks defense too, 692 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 3: Like it's a sign that the way they've constructed this roster, 693 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 3: where like Carlton Davis is getting all this money and their 694 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 3: defense getting all there, and they're built on this defense 695 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 3: and Davis gets fried for three touchdowns in this game 696 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 3: and they give up thirty nine points to a rookie 697 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 3: on the road, Like, even if they had found a 698 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 3: way to win this game, it's sort of an indictment 699 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 3: on the structure, Like what is it about Stroud and 700 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 3: Dell and Dalton schultzho is getting after it? Noah Brown 701 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 3: who had a seventy five yarder and Nico Collins, Like 702 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 3: what did you see today from them? That just like 703 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: made this performance special. 704 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 13: It was interesting because the first half it was a 705 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 13: lot of CG. Stroud kind of hanging on the ball 706 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 13: for a while and not really being too sure of 707 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 13: where he wanted to go with it. And then it 708 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 13: started to open up with some deep passes over the 709 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 13: middle of the deep ense kind of the thing that 710 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 13: you see Miami do so well. Houston started to do 711 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 13: that well. But what was most intriguing to me was 712 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 13: something that Davis pointed out on the broadcast, which is 713 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 13: that a sign of respect or appreciation for who CJ. 714 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 13: Stroud is at this point in his very young career. 715 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 13: Was Todd Bowles calling off the blitz, which I think 716 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 13: hurt them because he realized, I can't afford to sacrifice 717 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 13: those defenders to create pressure. I need them in coverage, 718 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 13: except Stroud sat back and pick them apart. I mean 719 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 13: dimes all over the field. It was poised. It's a 720 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 13: lot of the stuff that we've talked about with Stroud 721 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 13: for most of this season, but it was just amplified. 722 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 13: Fourth down, fourth and goal. They can't kick a field 723 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 13: goal because they don't have a kicker. 724 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: What does he do? 725 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 13: He finds Dalton Schultz in the right corner of the 726 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 13: end zone with a perfectly placed pass. They need a 727 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 13: huge conversion late in the game, he drops a dime 728 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 13: on Tank Dell. The next play he throws the game 729 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 13: winning touchdown. It was that type of play from the 730 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 13: second half on. It wasn't a four quarter performance. They 731 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 13: wouldn't a halftime He had one hundred and thirty passing yards, 732 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 13: he finishes with four to seventy. An absolute second half explosion. 733 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 13: It's halftime adjustments, and it's a guy really dealing with 734 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 13: adversity and proven to be wise beyond his years, which 735 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 13: has been the story for this season. Why I think 736 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 13: the Texans fans have every reason in the world to 737 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 13: be so optimistic. 738 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 4: About so much better home too. 739 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 7: They have a nice little home, everything changes for Texans fans. 740 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 7: I mean you have to win or lose. 741 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 5: Like what is happening right now is like a franchise 742 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 5: altering moment. 743 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 7: And we came into this year kind of wondering, like, 744 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 7: m is CJ. 745 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 5: Stroud at a disadvantage because we don't really have If anything, 746 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 5: we're curious about the lack of talent around him. They 747 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 5: have three one hundred yard pass catchers today. They don't 748 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 5: run the ball that really well, it doesn't matter. 749 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 3: Either that they're terrible. They had zero run get the. 750 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: Team in the Leaguey's turn and absolutely nothing thirteen for two. 751 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I think the thing I took away 752 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 5: was after Baker Mayfield goes and does what he does. 753 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 7: This is a rookie. The look in CJ. 754 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 5: Stroud's eyes was one of total calm, like on the sideline, 755 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 5: and then he just goes in there and like executes 756 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 5: complete magic. And it's like, this is a quarterback that 757 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 5: is change. He's the one of the biggest stories of 758 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 5: the entire season. And this fan base was lost at 759 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 5: sea and now there's like intense hope. 760 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: And that's that's how quickly it can happen. 761 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 2: It's and and the Texans now and quite frankly before 762 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 2: everything that turned his career into what it was or 763 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 2: what it is now. They had a guy into Shaun 764 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 2: Watson that looked like it was the future. And some 765 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 2: organizations walk the earth for decades looking for a guy 766 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 2: and they might have found another one here in stratt 767 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 2: I never thought I'd lived to see the day that 768 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 2: Dalton Schultz went ten for one point thirty in a game. 769 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 2: Three players on the Texans went over one hundred and 770 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 2: fourteen yards receiving in this game. And it does cover 771 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 2: up because I want to just give him a little 772 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 2: love here that Baker and the Bucks offense had kind 773 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 2: of been in in a funk the last few weeks 774 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 2: and he had led Baker led a great drive late 775 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter to put them ahead, and it 776 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 2: looked like it was a game winning touchdown pass to 777 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 2: Kate Odden and it wasn't enough. 778 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 13: Yeah, the Buccaneers, I thought, finally kind of lift themselves 779 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 13: out of the doldrums offensively. A lot of that had 780 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 13: to do with Rashad White, who finally started to find 781 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 13: some success on the ground started to happen I think 782 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 13: in the week prior, but really picked up this time. 783 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 13: He's also pass catchery total over one hundred yards from 784 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 13: scrimmage combined between those two efforts, and he found Mike 785 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 13: Evans for a long pass that ended up on the 786 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 13: goal line. 787 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: They were converting, they were keeping up. 788 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 13: It's just that they gave Houston a little bit of 789 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 13: a peak through the door, and they went right through 790 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 13: the door. They just knocked it down. I'll tell you 791 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 13: what you talk about Deshaun Watson and how he had 792 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 13: that period with them and how he was, you know, 793 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 13: a superstar and everything else. If it's me right now, 794 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,959 Speaker 13: if I had to pick between Deshaun Watson and CJ. 795 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 13: Stroud and building a franchise, it sounds hyperbolic, but I'm 796 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 13: saying it definitively, it's CJ. 797 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: Stroud. 798 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 13: The kid has an incredibly bright future. This is like 799 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 13: a Justin Herbert level effect with the Texans. I think 800 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 13: that we're going to see. 801 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 4: Also, I don't think that's a hot take. 802 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 3: I think there's probably about thirty front offices that would 803 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 3: be right there with you. 804 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 5: I think also, like the Bobby Slowick, you know, Shanahan 805 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 5: esque offense has a little this is a well coached 806 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 5: team like kind of all over. It's a complete sea 807 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 5: change from what they went through the last two years. 808 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 3: I love this list, but I'm glad Stroud got to 809 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 3: the top of them. This is a record, by the way, 810 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 3: most yards in a game. That's a big time record, 811 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 3: especially because there's it's actually a lot of like slightly 812 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 3: older players that the top of list. So I was like, Wow, 813 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 3: he's gonna pass all these legends of the game. The 814 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 3: list is kind of bizarre. Mark Boulger was next, but 815 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 3: he was like an old, weird rookie that was somewhere 816 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 3: else before Aaron Brooks underrated career but still Jeff Garcia 817 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 3: and even older rookie. He was like thirty when he 818 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 3: was a rookie, I don't know what he was doing. 819 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,959 Speaker 3: And then Kellen Moore. Kellen Moore threw for four hundred 820 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 3: and thirty five yards is no agents. It was like 821 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 3: one of those week eighteen games where no or seventeen 822 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 3: years where no starters were playing. 823 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 2: I think, But yeah, have we heard from Demiko Ryans 824 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 2: on the show. Let's listen to Demiko Ryans on his 825 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 2: young star quarterback. 826 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 15: It's a gutsy performance from him. It wasn't all clean, 827 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 15: but he gutted it out. He was tough in the pocket, 828 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 15: made some plays right, made some big time throws for us. 829 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 15: And the receivers they were reliable for him. They made 830 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 15: those catches. They made tough catches, made big plays for 831 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 15: So it's all those guys working together. But CJ was 832 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 15: just very gutsy performance by him. 833 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 2: And before we say goodbye to Shuck and good job 834 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 2: Demiko Ryans, I think he's gonna stick for more than 835 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 2: one Coach of the It's funny how it works out. Uh, 836 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,240 Speaker 2: what's funny how you get coach of the year. Sometimes 837 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 2: when you know a quarterback falls into your lap like that, 838 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 2: not taking anything away from it, but that's pretty nice too. 839 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 2: It makes you look good having a great young quarterback. 840 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 2: The Texans running back who kicked the field goal because 841 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 2: the kicker was hurt, say his name for me, Shook, 842 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 2: So I don't. 843 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,479 Speaker 1: Mess it up, dary Ogon. Let's listen to the call 844 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 1: on k I lt. 845 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 12: Of gun the running back for the lead, snap us down, 846 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 12: the kickers off. But it's good story for three and 847 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 12: the Texans are packing front. 848 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 15: Are you kidding? 849 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 16: We may be watching the changing of the game today 850 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 16: and how it's played and how rosters are filled out. 851 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 3: Okay, well, I think at least we might have seen 852 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 3: a good Mowal's career extended a couple of years. It's like, 853 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 3: let's keep him on our special themes for a while, 854 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:07,959 Speaker 3: and we got a nice back up joke. 855 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: I hope it was. I hope he's just. 856 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 7: Having caught in the moment. He's enjoying himself anyway, Bottle. 857 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 1: Service Day, you could stay all night? 858 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 10: Yeah, thanks, Bud. 859 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 13: Hey, he's got the best swag of any kicker in 860 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 13: history with the dark Advisor. 861 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: You'll never see that again. 862 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 2: You'll never see it again. It's such a good call, 863 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 2: all right. It imagine imagine Shook on like in a nightclub. 864 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 2: He would take up some real estate, his fist pumps 865 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 2: and knock you out. 866 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,439 Speaker 4: I can imagine him working the front door, like you're. 867 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he would fit as he's a bouncer or that's fair. Yeah, 868 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 2: and but you could obviously see Shook in a bouncer role. 869 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 2: But imagine him owning the dance floor. And it's like 870 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 2: people are giving him a wide berth because of his 871 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 2: immense size and strength. 872 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,919 Speaker 1: But the ladies they're still finding their way. 873 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 7: Feel like you've spent some time pondering this. 874 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: Let's move on. 875 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 2: Let's head to the other big fun, surprise, silly quarterback performance. 876 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 1: It went down in Atlanta. He weapons play of. 877 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 16: A sixty nine yard possession, dops back to pass on 878 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 16: third down, he stays in the pocket, fires to the 879 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 16: inzol touchdown. 880 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 8: Brindin pow the further Falcon past Dayton the Atlanta Falcons 881 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 8: with a six yard touchdown pass. 882 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 2: From Josh Dogs thirty twenty eighth Minnesota. 883 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: Was twenty seconds ago. Oh boh, he did it. 884 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 10: Dah. 885 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 4: They say you never go double bongos. 886 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: You went double bongos. 887 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 4: Love it the big week. 888 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 3: I think it's where that these two games are so 889 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 3: they're bongos, their bongo worthy. 890 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 2: This is like dropping the A bomb and not like 891 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 2: having any media beforehand. 892 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: You just hit the button. I like it. 893 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 7: I'm dropping it twice. 894 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: But you know it's interesting because you know I love 895 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: the bongos. 896 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 2: But actually I think I would like you to play 897 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,280 Speaker 2: another song, if. 898 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 4: You may, producing Eric from the chair, and. 899 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: I think Eric knows what I'm talking about. 900 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 10: MM crank it. 901 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: This is a very special honor entering son. 902 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 2: I had already given up even the thought that it 903 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,399 Speaker 2: could be something that was still in play for twenty 904 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:15,879 Speaker 2: twenty three. 905 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 7: We said it was too late. 906 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: It felt like it was. And then a couple of 907 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: things happened. 908 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 2: The Kirk Cousin's injury, the spirited play of the Vikings 909 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 2: in recent weeks, Josh Dobbs ending up on the roster, 910 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 2: and then Josh Dobbs just he doesn't even know the 911 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 2: names of his teammates, never needs to, but he knows 912 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 2: how to make them winners. It's like a redo of 913 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 2: what we saw with Baker and the Rams last year. 914 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,839 Speaker 2: The ubiquitous Journeyman through two touchdown passes, including a go 915 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 2: ahead six yard at Brandon Powell twenty two seconds of play. 916 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 2: He ran for a score five days as well, five 917 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 2: days after being acquired in a trade, thirty one eight, 918 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 2: outlasting the Falcons and Greg. I'm not saying, you know 919 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 2: this is we have to vote on these things, mm hmm. 920 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: But it's interesting. 921 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 2: It's interesting that the Vikings are supposed to be dead 922 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 2: and yet there's a lot to root for for this team, 923 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 2: including this quarterback who seems to keep forrest gumping his 924 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 2: way into very interesting places in his life. 925 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 3: I mean, there is something about this team, they have 926 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,720 Speaker 3: got juice, they have got mojo. 927 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 4: Whatever you want to say. 928 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 3: This player, Josh Dobbs, maybe he could just be the 929 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 3: player of atl I mean, we've been honking about him 930 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 3: all week, all year, enjoying him, and what he did 931 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 3: today was special and the way that they talked about 932 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 3: it after the game that look, he hadn't introduced himself 933 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 3: to anyone yet. O'Connor is literally describing the plays into 934 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,760 Speaker 3: the headset as he's talking to him, like Okay, first 935 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 3: you know he's going this way and then to do 936 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 3: this and this that, and Dobbs is able to process 937 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,359 Speaker 3: it all. And it's not because like oh they had 938 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 3: a second change of heart and Jaron Hall was struggling, 939 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 3: or that Dobbs ended up starting this game. Surprisingly no, 940 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 3: Jaron Hall actually went down the field and looked quite 941 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 3: good the rookie quarterback right off the bat. He was 942 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 3: five for six for seventy eight yards and had a 943 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 3: couple of rushes. But he gets a concussion on a 944 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 3: running play and Dobbs comes in there after not taking 945 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 3: on any snaps all weeks, and his fourth down scramble 946 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 3: to get away from Falcons defenders and eventually pick up 947 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 3: the first down on the game winning drive for twenty 948 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 3: two yards. To me, was one of the NFL plays 949 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 3: of the season. 950 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 5: Mark It's almost like a redundant tale in the sense 951 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 5: that Dobbs has done this three places now, and I 952 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 5: mean the what O'Connell did say, like, you know, but. 953 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 4: He didn't win the first ones in the other place. 954 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 7: This is no. 955 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: He just was like fannas last year Arizona. 956 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 3: This year he was like respect he played well and 957 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,399 Speaker 3: gave it, but there was a rum this one. 958 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 5: There was a drum beat of this play in Arizona. 959 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 5: And I know that it was like, oh, we don't 960 00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 5: look enough with the with the Cardinals and stuff, but 961 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 5: it was like dobb was doing this, especially on the grounds. 962 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 5: I mean we even had like an NFL Plus segment 963 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 5: about Dobbs's ground ability. It's like he led them in 964 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 5: rushing today. You you I just say, I because well no, 965 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 5: but it's a team effort. But like it was very 966 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:14,720 Speaker 5: flashpoint focused. 967 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 7: Well also, I. 968 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 5: Was thinking we did it like, well, this is going 969 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 5: to get snowed under because it's not timely. He may 970 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 5: not even start this speek, but bang, like the NFL 971 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 5: gods said that will not be the way it is. 972 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 5: I would back this as team of atl in a second, 973 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 5: because we're right back to them winning strange one score 974 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 5: games with a quarterback who's got a little bit of 975 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 5: magic to him and it doesn't matter what's happening around him. 976 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 2: I mean, do you want to in terms of like 977 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 2: the story around it? Two weeks ago you nominated them 978 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 2: for the fork and and that was when they still 979 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 2: had Kirk Cousins. 980 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, there's something in there you did. I don't recall that, but. 981 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 1: Does anybody remember anything? 982 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, that's right. 983 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: Let's have a let's let's let this, let's sit on 984 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 1: this for a couple of days. 985 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 5: Okay, Well I would have said a team we just 986 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,839 Speaker 5: talked about the Texans are in that world for me too. 987 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,760 Speaker 3: Well, they're very similar. They're both angling for the seventy 988 00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 3: feed right now. 989 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 2: Let's come back to that on Wednesday show. How about that? 990 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, Jaron Hall, poor kid. He he does look 991 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 2: pretty good early on, and then he makes a faithful 992 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 2: decision to believe that his legs and the speed that 993 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 2: he had in college was enough to get to the 994 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 2: pylon in the NFL and gets absolutely destroyed at the 995 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 2: goal line, which leads to him leaving the game quickly 996 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,439 Speaker 2: and sets it up for Dobbs and I have and 997 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 2: it's very easy to just do like the gloss it 998 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 2: over version of this and be like Dobbs was amazing 999 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 2: and what but he was a nightmare early on and 1000 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 2: it felt like it wasna he took a safety and 1001 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,879 Speaker 2: then he had really his bad ball security and lost 1002 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 2: the fumble immediately after that. That's set up Atlanta first 1003 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 2: and goal from the one. Of course they didn't score 1004 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 2: a touchdown, and of course they didn't give it to 1005 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 2: be John Robinson three times at the goal line in 1006 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 2: that spot, but that's the falcon. 1007 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 4: But they at least they got it to John new 1008 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 4: Smith twic. 1009 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 2: But what once Dobbs got settled into the game, that's 1010 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 2: when he really started too. And it's just a credit 1011 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 2: to him because that's a nearly impossible situation. So you know, 1012 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 2: credit to the Vikings who started oh and three and 1013 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,919 Speaker 2: they are in playoff position in the NFC and they've 1014 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 2: done it without Justin Jefferson for a month and he's 1015 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 2: gonna be I think he could come back as soon 1016 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 2: as what next week. 1017 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 4: He could. 1018 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,399 Speaker 3: I think the latest reporting calls. Some question whether it'll 1019 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 3: be that quick, but we'll see. 1020 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 2: And they lose kJ Osborne to a concussion in this 1021 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 2: game as well. Running Back Cam Akers, who who's already 1022 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,760 Speaker 2: dealt with an achilles injury in his career, had another 1023 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 2: achilles injury in this game. 1024 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: So I don't know if it's you know, the end. 1025 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 2: Type of Achilles injury, but that doesn't sound great at all. 1026 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 3: Dared left tackle got hurt during the week, Deresaw who's 1027 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 3: a pro bowler and ended up getting downgraded on the 1028 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 3: injury report. They didn't have him either, and they won. 1029 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 2: So from Owen three to five and four, and yeah, 1030 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,879 Speaker 2: it was it was a really it was a fun 1031 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 2: game to watch. And it just shows you, you know, 1032 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 2: the power of these games sometimes where or you just 1033 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 2: don't know what's gonna happen. I don't even know how 1034 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 2: they were competitive the Vikings and they and they win somehow. 1035 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 3: I've got a I've got a theory their opponent that 1036 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:17,360 Speaker 3: they were playing, the Atlanta Falcons, a team that looks 1037 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 3: at opportunity and looks at great players, and they just 1038 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 3: find a way to blow it, to blow things and 1039 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 3: and Heinike, you know, you you watched it closer than me, 1040 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 3: But I was keeping an eye on this one because 1041 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 3: I'm just fascinated by it. 1042 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 12: You know. 1043 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 3: He made miss some mistakes, but he made some good 1044 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 3: plays too, Like they were running the ball, like this 1045 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 3: is a team that I I just don't trust him. 1046 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 3: It was why I said it in the previo, was 1047 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 3: like four and a half points is way too much 1048 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 3: for this Falcons team against any team with some self belief. 1049 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 3: And there's there's something about him that's just it's just 1050 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 3: bad vibes. 1051 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,400 Speaker 5: Was heinike and or any Was it another an uptick 1052 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 5: over ridder or is it just like we've seen. 1053 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 2: Definitely an uptick because I think Ritter is one of 1054 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 2: the worst quarterbacks in the league. 1055 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,359 Speaker 1: Heinike is he was true to forem. 1056 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 2: Basically what Greg said is true is that he plays 1057 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 2: with that he plays with more confidence than perhaps he should. 1058 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: And he threw the ball a lot, He pushed the 1059 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 1: ball down field. 1060 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,280 Speaker 2: He had a very bad interception in the third quarter 1061 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 2: that that really hurt them. 1062 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: They really is a game that. 1063 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 3: Also had a game winning drive, like they should have 1064 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,240 Speaker 3: won the game. They go up four with two minutes 1065 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 3: to go after like their best drive. 1066 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 2: Of the They had multiple opportunities that first and goal 1067 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 2: from the one as an example, And there were different 1068 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 2: spots in this game where they should have really took 1069 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 2: control and instead they left the door open, which is 1070 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 2: like the opposite of like the Eagles and the Chiefs 1071 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 2: of the world. Like middling teams or poorly coached middling 1072 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 2: teams always seem to find a way to let teams 1073 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 2: back in and blow games. And I think if things 1074 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 2: are evening out for the Falcons after kind of being 1075 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 2: on the lucky side of the ledger early on. 1076 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 3: This NFC South is gross in this seventh seed for Minnesota, 1077 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 3: it's it's attainable. 1078 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 4: You look at their schedule. 1079 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,439 Speaker 3: If they can settle dobs in there, I'm assuming he'll 1080 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 3: keep this already job if Faul gets healthy. 1081 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 4: But who knows. 1082 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 1: You got it now? Right? 1083 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think you should. 1084 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: This is all they when they think they. 1085 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 3: Were excited about holl and then they were excited how 1086 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 3: that went. So it was a tough break for him 1087 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 3: as a rookie. But yes, but now that you saw it, 1088 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 3: you saw Dobbs. 1089 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,399 Speaker 2: The thought in that building now is okay, Now let's 1090 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 2: get him comfortable. Let's actually hear him like, you know, 1091 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 2: he can learn some of the names of his teammates. 1092 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,240 Speaker 2: Let's actually hear Josh Dobbs introduce himself at his postgame pressler. 1093 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 4: What's up, y'all? 1094 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,759 Speaker 17: Josh Dobbs honor to be in Minnesota, introduced myself to. 1095 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 2: Everyone, well, class act, what a flex And you mentioned 1096 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,359 Speaker 2: that this is not the first time he's been thrown 1097 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 2: into active duty out of nowhere. All he does, he's 1098 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 2: comparing this to when he got thrown into the playoff 1099 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 2: basically a play in playoff game last January. 1100 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 1: Here's what he said about that. 1101 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 17: Last year in Tennessee. So we had per se a 1102 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 17: couple first team routes. We played on a Thursday, so 1103 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 17: played Saturday to a Thursday game, so quick turnaround, late 1104 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 17: in the season, last second, last week of the season. 1105 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 1: So it didn't get a. 1106 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 17: Ton of reps, but we at least got, you know, 1107 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,240 Speaker 17: two walkthroughs, a chance to communicate on the same page. 1108 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,839 Speaker 17: This one was you know, kind of like learn as 1109 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,280 Speaker 17: you go, hairs on fire, hold on to your seat. 1110 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,479 Speaker 17: But guys were able to respond, you know. Obviously being 1111 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 17: in a similar situation allowed me to be able to 1112 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 17: not be too prideful, communicate when I'm when I don't 1113 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 17: know what's going on, but also tell the coaches, hey, 1114 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:28,839 Speaker 17: what I need to be successful. 1115 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 5: That is a fiery leader. And nice job by the 1116 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 5: Cardinals giving away your best quarterback. 1117 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 4: Wow, I think I don't think they regret it. 1118 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,760 Speaker 2: I think Kyler mur is probably a little better, not anymore, 1119 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 2: I guess don't agree. 1120 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 3: I think they're angling to get an even better quarterback 1121 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 3: in April. 1122 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:45,280 Speaker 7: See how that works. 1123 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 2: I think everything ended in its right place, which is 1124 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 2: Dobbs in the middle of a playoff race. All right, 1125 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 2: let's take a break. Hey, let's let's ruminate. Let's just 1126 00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 2: let that sink in. Team of around the NFL Nominee 1127 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:01,800 Speaker 2: Minnesota Bike. 1128 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,759 Speaker 7: Got some candidates and some competition. 1129 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break. All right, we're back. 1130 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 2: It's time now for the Sunday Drive, presented by the 1131 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 2: first ever. 1132 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 1: Toyota Grand Highlander. 1133 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,720 Speaker 8: Hit it Eric Mark Andrews alone, split to the left, 1134 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 8: inside hand off Keith Mitchell, price attack leased to thirty 1135 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 8: five thirty. 1136 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 6: Who's he's in the ten touch con right in Keaton 1137 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 6: Mitchell and with twenty nine seconds left in the third 1138 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 6: quarter that hey's in the barn. 1139 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,399 Speaker 2: Hey, that was Jerry Sandusky, of course, w BA l Hey, 1140 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,359 Speaker 2: Keaton Mitchell, you're a celebrity now with the five foot eight, 1141 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 2: undrafted rookie from East Carolina, a child practically who had 1142 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 2: zero NFL carries before Sunday, ran for a buck thirty 1143 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 2: eight and his first pro touchdown. 1144 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 1: The Ravens absolutely hammer. 1145 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 2: Greg's beloved Ravens absolutely hammered Greg's beloved Seahawks thirty seven 1146 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 2: to three. 1147 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,760 Speaker 1: Greg. I think I kind of hinted at it on Thursday. 1148 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 2: I didn't love your decision to lock against Gino because 1149 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 2: you've been kind of. 1150 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 1: Defending Gino for weeks. 1151 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you're kind of maybe getting a little contrarian 1152 00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 2: like and pushing back against this idea that Gino hasn't 1153 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 2: been playing well. Yeah, and then I didn't see this game, 1154 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 2: but it doesn't appear that Gino played. 1155 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 1: Well once more, and the result in part is a 1156 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:36,720 Speaker 1: total blowout. 1157 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,839 Speaker 4: I with you, I'm with you, but I think if 1158 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 4: Gino is your main takeaway, you got them. I'm just saying. 1159 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 2: I'm just saying the fact that you locked against Gino 1160 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 2: after telling me for a month straight that you're not watching. 1161 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 4: It, because I think the Ravens are the best team 1162 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:52,280 Speaker 4: in the league. 1163 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 3: That's like, I think it's not even that close, and 1164 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:56,919 Speaker 3: so I'm gonna be locking them when I can't. 1165 00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 4: They're going up two. 1166 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 1: Teams six and that's a tough situation, that's all, you know. 1167 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 3: Some would say it was, you know, foresight, five hundred 1168 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 3: and fifteen yards to one fifty one. I haven't seen 1169 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 3: two lines as uneven in this NFL season. The Ravens 1170 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,719 Speaker 3: ran for seven point seven yards per carry today, not 1171 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,520 Speaker 3: counting the two Neil downs at the end, they had 1172 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 3: almost three. They had three hundred yards before the nel 1173 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,840 Speaker 3: Dowbs Keaton Mitchell is a dude. He had more yards 1174 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,439 Speaker 3: over expected than any runner in three years in this game. 1175 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:31,880 Speaker 1: Where was this guy in the practice squad? 1176 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,880 Speaker 3: He was hurt earlier in the year, an undrafted rookie 1177 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,320 Speaker 3: that they had some high hopes for, I believe, and 1178 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 3: then they yeah, kind of getting getting ready to play. 1179 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 3: In almost every one of his runs, he broke a 1180 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 3: tackle or showed really special speed. Gus Edwards is obviously 1181 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,799 Speaker 3: running really well. They are a truly dominant offensive line 1182 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,759 Speaker 3: right now. They're on a heater, and that's that's kind 1183 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 3: of why I'm just with the Ravens because they have 1184 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 3: two dominant lines. They have the offense line that did that, 1185 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 3: then they have the defensive line which held Seattle to 1186 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,319 Speaker 3: a one point nine yards per carry. So right there, 1187 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 3: the running game, it's all over there. Gino Smith was harassed, 1188 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,399 Speaker 3: he was sacked. He made bad decisions certainly in this game. 1189 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,959 Speaker 3: But the pocket was collapsing on him almost every play 1190 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 3: in the first half of this game, and they when 1191 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,840 Speaker 3: they didn't, they batted down his passes three times to 1192 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 3: end drive. So this thing was a total woodshed situation. 1193 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 4: But they're scary. 1194 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 3: Twenty nine first downs mark to six, and that that 1195 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 3: is not That is not about a quarterback. It's not 1196 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 3: about Lamar or Gino. It's not about anything other than 1197 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 3: one team just beating the ever living crap out of 1198 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 3: the other team on both sides. 1199 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 5: And beating the everliving crap out of a good team 1200 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:46,760 Speaker 5: from the NFC. 1201 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,399 Speaker 4: They all run defense too, by the way, going into 1202 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:49,880 Speaker 4: this game. 1203 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,320 Speaker 7: Right they shattered the lions. 1204 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 5: They've done this week's later, and this was this was 1205 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,440 Speaker 5: a team that you know, came into the season with 1206 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 5: a new offense, and it looked that way even when 1207 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 5: we were back in London. They a completely different team 1208 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 5: at this point, and it's like, if you can we're 1209 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 5: in November. If you can control the offensive line and 1210 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,800 Speaker 5: the defensive line this way, I mean, there really is 1211 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 5: probably no ceiling to them. I mean, Seattle's had a 1212 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 5: number of games where they ran the ball really well 1213 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 5: and it's like one point nine yards per Carrie Kenneth 1214 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,879 Speaker 5: Walker completely removed, and you've got guys like if you're 1215 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,480 Speaker 5: the Ravens, Keaton Mitchell out of nowhere becoming a star, 1216 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 5: your pick up, Kyle van Noy having a big game. 1217 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 5: It's like they are doing everything right and you didn't 1218 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 5: need to put everything on Lamar Jackson alone today it's 1219 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,400 Speaker 5: got He's got all these pieces around him. Very scary 1220 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,440 Speaker 5: situation for the AFC North and the rest of the AFC. 1221 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 2: Lamar didn't even play in the fourth quarter, so you 1222 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,400 Speaker 2: get and they had more sacks and points allowed in 1223 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 2: this game, and it just it just this is greg. 1224 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,319 Speaker 2: If you're a Ravens fan, you just want to make 1225 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 2: sure this keeps rolling and you're not peaking too soon, 1226 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 2: because right now it's you know, if I was still 1227 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,719 Speaker 2: in the power rankings game, this team has a very 1228 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,360 Speaker 2: real case now to be number one for the the 1229 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 2: play they put together. 1230 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 1: Really going back now about a. 1231 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,440 Speaker 3: Month right, it's them getting healthier. I think on the 1232 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 3: offensive line was step one, and even in the secondary 1233 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 3: they have gotten healthier. A lot of those they had 1234 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 3: so many injuries early and they were surviving him and 1235 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,839 Speaker 3: then they get these guys back. But you mentioned van Ney, 1236 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 3: Matt Abike, like Brandon Washington, they were just they're all 1237 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,799 Speaker 3: controlling it. And Tony Romo, I think did a good 1238 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,320 Speaker 3: job describing why Mike McDonald's so tough to play against. 1239 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 3: The defensive coordinator, just that every snap they're like lining up, 1240 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 3: they look the exact same and then they scramble you 1241 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 3: by moving post snap and mixing up the coverages and 1242 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,399 Speaker 3: being so unpredictable. I think that's really good against good 1243 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,240 Speaker 3: mental quarterbacks like a Gino Smith, where Gino's just holding 1244 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 3: the ball and doesn't know what he's seen. And I 1245 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 3: think that bodes well for matchups against the Burrows and 1246 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,280 Speaker 3: Mahomes and Josh Allen that it gives you a chance 1247 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 3: that they're a really well coached It's not just about talent. 1248 00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,239 Speaker 3: They were a really really well coached defense. The only 1249 00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 3: defense Dan, that has a better percentage of since the 1250 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:07,840 Speaker 3: merger of touchdowns allowed per drive is the two thousand Ravens. 1251 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,759 Speaker 3: That that's where the twenty twenty three Ravens are right now. 1252 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 3: I'm not saying they're that good. Schedules a big part 1253 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,920 Speaker 3: of it. But when they've played pretty good offenses Seattle 1254 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 3: in Detroit, they've they've laid it on them too. 1255 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 2: Gino completed fewer than fifty percent of his passes through 1256 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 2: an interception. 1257 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 3: Lost the fumble too. That one wasn't really on him, 1258 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 3: but he could have had another interception. 1259 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,479 Speaker 7: Are we about to go to our third Ravens Super 1260 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 7: Bowl in our time here? 1261 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 1: Dan? No, Well, you don't know that's four straight games 1262 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:37,920 Speaker 1: or do you know at least turn two turnovers in 1263 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 1: a row? So they listen. 1264 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 2: Drew locks his backup so that we're not there yet, 1265 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 2: but he's got to start cleaning things up. We'll see 1266 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 2: if he does. But man, Ravens, Man, they're good. I 1267 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 2: don't want to peak early, though. They don't want to 1268 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 2: peak early. 1269 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 3: You don't want to peak early, but you also want 1270 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 3: to win your division. You'd love to get as high 1271 00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:57,200 Speaker 3: as a seat as I. 1272 00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 1: Know who's nervous about the Ravens in the black jacket 1273 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,560 Speaker 1: right there. Why Browns are up next? 1274 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,640 Speaker 5: I mean they shadowed the Browns a couple weeks ago. 1275 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 5: I think the Browns should be nervous. I don't feel 1276 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 5: too much about it, Like we'll see what happens there. 1277 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 1: So we're just lying to each other. 1278 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 5: No, but it's like, I mean, go take care of 1279 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 5: business if you're for real, We'll get to the Browns 1280 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 5: down the road. 1281 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 2: And that was the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota Let's 1282 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 2: Go Places. Learn more at toyota dot com slash Grand Highlander. 1283 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 2: All right, let's keep moving. I mean the lock competition's over. 1284 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,720 Speaker 2: I mean you are just you want to talk. 1285 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 7: About hot I think it ended a couple of weeks ago. 1286 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,160 Speaker 1: It's over. Yeah, enough with this, that's not true. How 1287 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,360 Speaker 1: many times you lost so farther one? 1288 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 4: I mean we all lost it together. 1289 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 2: Ex give him a little round of applause, give him 1290 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 2: a give greg. The lock competition is already over on 1291 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 2: November fifth round of a clause. 1292 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I stopped thinking about it around Columbus Day. 1293 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 4: We're literally we've got like sixty percent of the season 1294 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 4: to go. We're nine weeks. That's how you'd answer twenty. 1295 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:01,959 Speaker 7: This is about how we feel. 1296 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 1: All right, let's head to the super Dome. 1297 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,440 Speaker 16: Saints up by seven to sixteen to play in the 1298 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 16: football game. 1299 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 1: Come on dire four looking for reason. 1300 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:14,560 Speaker 10: The ball is out. 1301 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 1: The ball is out, still out, he's pulling doll on 1302 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 1: a peak. 1303 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 10: Warner picks it up. 1304 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 1: Pete Warner has it inside the twenty. 1305 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 4: The Saints didn't yet another. 1306 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 12: Turnover forced by Tomorrowo Davis, and then Pete Warner finally 1307 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:30,440 Speaker 12: picked it up. 1308 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:31,960 Speaker 7: Wow, what a huge play. 1309 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 2: The Saints are a roller coaster. Mike Costs with the 1310 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 2: call there. WWL. 1311 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,600 Speaker 1: This is a game that you know, they kept leaving 1312 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 1: that door open for the Bears. 1313 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:45,800 Speaker 2: They should have closed the game out in a couple 1314 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,720 Speaker 2: different ways in the second half, and they just candn't 1315 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,480 Speaker 2: do it, because that's just this team that's in their DNA, 1316 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 2: but also in their DNA is when their defense gets hot, 1317 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 2: they cause a lot of ruckus and they did against 1318 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:04,480 Speaker 2: the Bears for seeing five turnovers, intercepting Tyson Badger three times, 1319 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:08,080 Speaker 2: they recovered two fumbles, and that final play was the 1320 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 2: difference in a twenty four to seventeen win. That was 1321 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 2: to Mario Davis sack Pete Werner with the recovery. So 1322 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 2: the Saints get it done winning the turnover battle. Five 1323 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 2: zero will typically do that. There was a crazy stat 1324 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 2: out there, Greg that they're one of the few teams 1325 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,240 Speaker 2: in the last like twenty years. I want to say 1326 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 2: that were plus five and turnovers and still didn't cover. 1327 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 2: And that tells the story of a team that didn't 1328 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 2: quite take advantage of all their great field position and 1329 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 2: what happened after those turnovers. But let's stay positive that 1330 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 2: the Saints, I believe here in first place in the 1331 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,640 Speaker 2: NFC South as we hit the midpoint of the season, 1332 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,240 Speaker 2: and there's some things to be positive. 1333 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 1: On the offensive side of the ball. You have Chris 1334 01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 1: Olave we were talking. 1335 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 2: About on him on Thursday, kind of joined he joined 1336 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 2: us amongst the living at a touchdown. He made some plays. 1337 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 2: Derek Carr is playing mistake free football, and Taysom Hill 1338 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 2: is really he's on a heater as well. 1339 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:11,400 Speaker 1: Right now. 1340 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:16,760 Speaker 2: He had a touchdown reception, he had a touchdown pass, 1341 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,960 Speaker 2: and I feel like Mark, they've found a nice little 1342 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:26,240 Speaker 2: flow to this offense now where it's Carr, it's Taysom, 1343 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 2: it's Camara and a team that's had a lot of 1344 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,640 Speaker 2: trouble in the red zone. You saw some of that 1345 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,200 Speaker 2: starting to melt away in this game because they're starting 1346 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 2: to just kind of find their identity a little bit 1347 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 2: on offense at last. 1348 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 5: I don't like the game ending with downs upon a 1349 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 5: missfield goal and the end of the game there for 1350 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 5: the Saints. But I think you're getting it. I mean, Carr, 1351 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,560 Speaker 5: if he's healthy last couple of weeks, there's some hope there. 1352 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 5: I do think that they continue to be like a 1353 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 5: nasty secondary and it helps to play a Bears team. 1354 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 5: I think it's been better of recent weeks, but you're 1355 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,440 Speaker 5: still dealing with Tyson bage. 1356 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,920 Speaker 7: I mean, it's like this is that should be a gimme. 1357 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,680 Speaker 5: And like they're you know, they're five and four, they've 1358 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,920 Speaker 5: got the second third most wins in the NFC. 1359 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:07,800 Speaker 7: I mean, but I don't know if I trust them 1360 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 7: at all. 1361 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 3: I mean, Beijen puts up you know, two and twenty 1362 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,919 Speaker 3: yards averages seven point three yards per attempt. They actually 1363 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,160 Speaker 3: outgained the Saints that they put the moments where it's surprising. 1364 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,920 Speaker 2: Was actually moving the ball well and he plays with 1365 01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,320 Speaker 2: the sound like first half they did Yeah, he plays. 1366 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 2: He plays with some like swagger again maybe a little 1367 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,320 Speaker 2: bit unearned at this level, but still you like it. 1368 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 2: Like he he obviously believes himself and but he started 1369 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 2: throwing the ball up for grabs and that's never gonna end. 1370 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 9: Well. 1371 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,000 Speaker 2: I want to give also a special shout out on 1372 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,080 Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball to cornerback Paulson Debo 1373 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 2: the defensive Player of the Week award. It's a rap 1374 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:48,040 Speaker 2: two interceptions, he forced the fumble and he recovered a fumble. 1375 01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,800 Speaker 2: So that is that's like the equivalent of like the egot, 1376 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 2: you know when you get the Emmy, the Grammy, the 1377 01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 2: Oscar and the Tony. 1378 01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,760 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean that's that's for a defender. He did that, 1379 01:02:58,960 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 1: so they gave that a week. 1380 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,720 Speaker 3: He is coming off as good at two games as 1381 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:07,000 Speaker 3: a cornerback can possibly had no doubt. Last week was 1382 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,200 Speaker 3: the best game of Paulson a Deevo's career. I was 1383 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,000 Speaker 3: really surprised when he won the starting job over Lante Taylor. 1384 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 3: They ended up moving to a lot that is a 1385 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 3: great cornerback trio with a Devo playing like that, So it. 1386 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,560 Speaker 5: Sounds like Montes Sweat played well too. Led the bears 1387 01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:21,120 Speaker 5: and pressures. 1388 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,760 Speaker 2: Yep, he popped up here and then not not a 1389 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,840 Speaker 2: dominant outing, but obviously he makes them better. And I 1390 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 2: thought in general and and Justin Fields is now throwing, 1391 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,280 Speaker 2: so he's edging towards playing. They're on a short week 1392 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,480 Speaker 2: this week, so you'll probably get one more bage and start. 1393 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:36,920 Speaker 2: But there were things to like. They looked like a 1394 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,560 Speaker 2: professional offense in this game, Lucatzi called a good game, 1395 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,320 Speaker 2: but the turnovers just killed them and that will do it. 1396 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:47,400 Speaker 3: We should mention Montes Sweet signed a monster extension. 1397 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 7: You know what I loved about that this last week? 1398 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, it happened like over It's like last week He's like, 1399 01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 5: you know, yeah, I'm interested potentially, but I want to 1400 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 5: take a little bit of time and see that Thursday. 1401 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,120 Speaker 5: Yeah what I feel about you know, like my experience 1402 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,240 Speaker 5: here like bang two day later, a ton of guaranteed money, 1403 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:01,760 Speaker 5: let's do it. 1404 01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:02,480 Speaker 4: Yeah here would you? 1405 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:02,920 Speaker 1: Would you? 1406 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 4: Like four years? 1407 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:05,400 Speaker 1: And what was it? 1408 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 3: Ninety eight million dollar extension and people are going crazy like, 1409 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:12,200 Speaker 3: oh they paid too much and it's like, oh, calm down, costs. 1410 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,320 Speaker 3: It was first of all, was the extension. So if 1411 01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,280 Speaker 3: you do the whole deal, it was like twenty per year. 1412 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,400 Speaker 3: It's like that's what they would call. He would have 1413 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,000 Speaker 3: cost more than that in free agency. I actually it's 1414 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,200 Speaker 3: weird to be defending the Bears front office, but I 1415 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,600 Speaker 3: have no problem with that trade and definitely don't have 1416 01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,160 Speaker 3: a problem with that contract after the trade. 1417 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,800 Speaker 5: No, And you know he's gonna he's a consistently right, 1418 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,440 Speaker 5: he's a good player, and like I look, it'll look 1419 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:33,280 Speaker 5: good in a year or two. 1420 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:37,440 Speaker 2: And my last thought on this game, bringing it back 1421 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 2: to you know, Taysom Hill, who's thirty three now former 1422 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,160 Speaker 2: BYU Cordback, a favorite of West back in the day. 1423 01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 2: He after when he caught the touchdown in this game, 1424 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,360 Speaker 2: he became the first NFL player since Giants Hall of 1425 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 2: Famer Frank Gifford, who retired you know, fifty years ago, 1426 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,720 Speaker 2: sixty years ago, to score ten or more times each 1427 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,640 Speaker 2: as a passer eleven times, runner twenty six times in 1428 01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 2: a receiver ten times. Dennis Allen said after the game, 1429 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,480 Speaker 2: that's pretty impressive, right. Half the guys in our locker 1430 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,000 Speaker 2: room would have no idea who Frank Gifford was, and 1431 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,520 Speaker 2: sure enough, Taysom Hill was not aware who Frank Gifford was. 1432 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,240 Speaker 2: What and this would be the point where I would 1433 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 2: do that and I would get really like, I know, 1434 01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:20,120 Speaker 2: up on my high horse about it. However, I'm like 1435 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,880 Speaker 2: twenty five, twenty years younger or older than all these players, 1436 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,960 Speaker 2: and I only really knew Frank Gifford because he was 1437 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,000 Speaker 2: Captive Lee's husband for the. 1438 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,360 Speaker 5: Most partyday night football announcer. 1439 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean so I can't I get like 1440 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:35,280 Speaker 2: that was a long time ago, and it's more a 1441 01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 2: tribute to how he is one of one in this league. 1442 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,280 Speaker 2: You might not think he's like a big time player, 1443 01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,840 Speaker 2: but nobody else does what he does this series. 1444 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,600 Speaker 3: He's a big time player. He led them in rushing today. 1445 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 3: By twenty he doubled the Galvin Kamara. I mean, it's 1446 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:49,640 Speaker 3: kind of ridiculous. 1447 01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,440 Speaker 5: I mean, Sean Paper was signing to those three or 1448 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 5: four contract extensions over the course. 1449 01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 3: I know those contracts look as bad anywhere. I'm like, actually, 1450 01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,800 Speaker 3: you know, thirteen of years not too crazy for Taysom 1451 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:00,360 Speaker 3: uh Greg. 1452 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 2: This is always a dark portion of the show for 1453 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,400 Speaker 2: a certain segment of our listeners. It was once the 1454 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,760 Speaker 2: throne of ease. It's not it's not. It's not so 1455 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,800 Speaker 2: easy in New England it's lazy. It's pretty slee eazy. 1456 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:16,440 Speaker 2: In fact, let's head to Gillette, step to Jones. 1457 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:18,760 Speaker 13: Washington breaks forward, pressure up the middle, throws over the 1458 01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:19,360 Speaker 13: center of the field. 1459 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,520 Speaker 10: That was popped up the air picked off and it 1460 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,680 Speaker 10: picked off Kuan. 1461 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,919 Speaker 12: Martin at the thirty two yard Linde and Washington's gonna 1462 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 12: get a win in New England. 1463 01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:29,960 Speaker 4: They had not had a turnover yet. 1464 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 3: There you go, they get it and it is the 1465 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,840 Speaker 3: young guy Kwan Martin all right, gave over. 1466 01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:41,080 Speaker 2: Brian Weinstein and Julie Donaldson with the call w B 1467 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:52,360 Speaker 2: I g yes Mac Jones through that interception, would you say, 1468 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:57,920 Speaker 2: Guama Martin, Kuan Kwan, I'm seeing its jar tiedius in 1469 01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:58,880 Speaker 2: a in a different way. 1470 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,160 Speaker 4: That's uh, that's his nickname though or it goes by that. 1471 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1472 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:07,800 Speaker 2: One good job by mister Martin, whose interception helped hold 1473 01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,200 Speaker 2: off the Patriots twenty to seventeen. It is the first 1474 01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:14,439 Speaker 2: game obviously for the Commanders after trading away both young 1475 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:18,080 Speaker 2: and Sweaty, and it is a game in which Mac 1476 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:21,240 Speaker 2: Jones was outplayed by Sam Howell, who threw for three 1477 01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:25,400 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five yards and a game tying touchdown. 1478 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,920 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, what was going on there today? 1479 01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,080 Speaker 7: Patriots made it interesting out of the gates. 1480 01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,520 Speaker 5: This is the game that happened? Huh, Mark, Well it was. 1481 01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:38,480 Speaker 5: It was slightly flavorless game, to be honest. The Patriots 1482 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:42,000 Speaker 5: kind of just did Patriots things from wire to wire. 1483 01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,600 Speaker 5: But I thought you got the best throw of mac 1484 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 5: Jones's seats. I saw our pat When you say that, 1485 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,760 Speaker 5: what does that mean this year? Dull to the eyes, 1486 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,080 Speaker 5: not productive, like, not a lot of inspiration on offense. 1487 01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,240 Speaker 5: They cracked through that with the throw. I just mentioned 1488 01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 5: to know that God a touchdown a Hunter Henry was 1489 01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,120 Speaker 5: what the kind of throw that makes you believe in 1490 01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 5: Mac Jones? But then he's going to go do things 1491 01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,880 Speaker 5: later in the game that erased that belief to some degree. 1492 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,160 Speaker 5: Ramandra Stevenson had a sixty four yard run for a 1493 01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,960 Speaker 5: touchdown and Jen Rager and Cole Strange on that. You 1494 01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 5: got to watch this like some great blocking on that, 1495 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,280 Speaker 5: and so it's like the Patriots were hanging around. But 1496 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,519 Speaker 5: I think for me, I come out of this game 1497 01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:20,760 Speaker 5: that yes, Washington move on from those defensive linemen, move 1498 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,280 Speaker 5: on and away from this season spiritually and probably their 1499 01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:23,760 Speaker 5: head coach. 1500 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,840 Speaker 7: But I kind of believe in Sam Howell. 1501 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,760 Speaker 5: I know we've sort of seen evidence week after week, 1502 01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 5: but he was doing some wild stuff in this game, 1503 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,880 Speaker 5: where it's like he just seems to see the field 1504 01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,439 Speaker 5: in a certain way, do stuff kind of off schedule, 1505 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 5: and then has the daring do to whip the ball 1506 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,920 Speaker 5: where he wants to, and some incredible things unfurled in this. 1507 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:42,800 Speaker 5: I thought that, you know, this is a classic O 1508 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,320 Speaker 5: Bill Belichick will take someone like Sam Howell and put 1509 01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,320 Speaker 5: him in a blender. But I think the opposite happened, 1510 01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:51,120 Speaker 5: where he made enough kind of throws in unpredictable in 1511 01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,680 Speaker 5: certain terms of like not what you'd expect where you'd 1512 01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:55,920 Speaker 5: go with the ball, and it was successful, and I 1513 01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,720 Speaker 5: come away believing in their passing game and believing in 1514 01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,200 Speaker 5: what he can do in every possible way. 1515 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,280 Speaker 3: The problem is the odds on him having the same 1516 01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:08,120 Speaker 3: coordinator next year. I don't think that really smart. I 1517 01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:12,120 Speaker 3: don't think that will like really matter, though I don't 1518 01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,120 Speaker 3: think why not. I don't think that's because I don't 1519 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:15,439 Speaker 3: think this is like a we Washton. 1520 01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:16,920 Speaker 1: How about this? How about this from this? 1521 01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 2: If we all agree that and I know the commanders, 1522 01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,960 Speaker 2: and I think a large portion of their fan base, 1523 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 2: if not all of them see this kid as somebody 1524 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,280 Speaker 2: with an actual future at this point that he could 1525 01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,240 Speaker 2: be a guy for them, You've got to make decisions 1526 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:38,040 Speaker 2: that put him in the best position to be successful. So, like, 1527 01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,000 Speaker 2: I know, after the young and Sweaty trade, the ideas 1528 01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:45,240 Speaker 2: that we're heading towards a cleaning house. But you know what, 1529 01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:46,960 Speaker 2: if they keep winning and they hang around in the 1530 01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,920 Speaker 2: NFC playoff race, is is it actually not the the 1531 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:54,120 Speaker 2: house cleaning that's coming and the change behind the scenes, 1532 01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,000 Speaker 2: And maybe that's more if they actually really do think 1533 01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,120 Speaker 2: they might have something here, that kind of changes a 1534 01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:00,840 Speaker 2: lot around how you view where they're going. 1535 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:01,120 Speaker 1: Well. 1536 01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:05,040 Speaker 3: It also could, potentially, if they really played well offensively, 1537 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,519 Speaker 3: be a candidacy for Eric Bienemy to just stay and 1538 01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:10,839 Speaker 3: Ron Rivera goes. 1539 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,720 Speaker 5: That, I like, I like that you're not losing, You're 1540 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,519 Speaker 5: not losing like OC every every week. I mean, he 1541 01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,000 Speaker 5: just I think like he seems to thrive. I know 1542 01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,160 Speaker 5: he had a terrible interception in this game too, and 1543 01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,320 Speaker 5: that's gonna come when you're when you're young and you're 1544 01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,719 Speaker 5: just beginning to do all this. But like on third 1545 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,320 Speaker 5: and long, in certain situations, like he just uses his legs. 1546 01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,640 Speaker 5: He got them out of jams, like certain throws, Like 1547 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,720 Speaker 5: it's like it the situation never seems too big to him, 1548 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,160 Speaker 5: and like the deeper the holder in, it's like he's 1549 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:38,560 Speaker 5: the kind of quarterback that gets you out of it. 1550 01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,000 Speaker 7: And he did it a number of times today. 1551 01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:43,400 Speaker 3: I just think that the Patriots are so sloppy, Like 1552 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:48,880 Speaker 3: they special teams penalties, they benched j. C. Jackson and 1553 01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,240 Speaker 3: Jack Jones to start the game and won't say why 1554 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,000 Speaker 3: like that when you said the Patriots, well, Belichick just 1555 01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,200 Speaker 3: said they played like like you know, but they each 1556 01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,400 Speaker 3: one set out the first two or three drives and 1557 01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,320 Speaker 3: the other set out the entire first qu order, and 1558 01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,679 Speaker 3: they wouldn't say why they're the usual starters. It's probably 1559 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,360 Speaker 3: some punishment that he doesn't want to talk about. And 1560 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,360 Speaker 3: just it's a lot of that. And then the game 1561 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:13,880 Speaker 3: ends with a good enough pass from mac Jones, a 1562 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,080 Speaker 3: pretty good pass actually into a very tight window. And 1563 01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,400 Speaker 3: I saw something on Patriots Dot common. He threw into 1564 01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,760 Speaker 3: tight windows something like, you know, three times as much 1565 01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:25,280 Speaker 3: as Sam Howell because other offenses actually create open receivers, 1566 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:26,920 Speaker 3: but the Patriots don't have the players or the scheme 1567 01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,320 Speaker 3: to do so, and Juju Smith Schuster is one of 1568 01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:32,160 Speaker 3: the worst free agent signings this team's ever had. You know, 1569 01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,880 Speaker 3: goes off his hands to lose the game pretty fitting. 1570 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 7: Well, and before that four straight punts. 1571 01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:38,599 Speaker 5: It just they can't get out of their own way, 1572 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,240 Speaker 5: even in a game where they had some of their 1573 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:42,200 Speaker 5: better plays early on. 1574 01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,479 Speaker 2: Jeff Howard reported that both Jackson and Jones entered the 1575 01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:50,680 Speaker 2: game late due to performance issues, and neither of them 1576 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,920 Speaker 2: seem very happy. It's the vibes are not good and 1577 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,280 Speaker 2: the and the Patriots are two and seven for the 1578 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,880 Speaker 2: first time since Bill Belichick's first season as head coach 1579 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,519 Speaker 2: way back in two thousand and they're also winless in 1580 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,360 Speaker 2: non division games. They're the only team in the NFL 1581 01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:10,040 Speaker 2: without a win outside their division. Rough rough times. Let's 1582 01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:13,200 Speaker 2: take a break and then we'll finish out the games. 1583 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,600 Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna keep moving on here. And you know, 1584 01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:25,519 Speaker 2: after the incredible CJ. Stroud performance, boys, I actually I 1585 01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:30,120 Speaker 2: X this doesn't it still doesn't work. I tweeted, hey 1586 01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,599 Speaker 2: this in the late window. This would be a good 1587 01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,160 Speaker 2: good day for our guy Bryce Young to throw a 1588 01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,720 Speaker 2: couple of touchdown passes and have a nice little day, 1589 01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,320 Speaker 2: and it's not gonna be five touchdowns in four hundred 1590 01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:41,960 Speaker 2: and seventy yards. 1591 01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,320 Speaker 1: But don't, don't fall on your face and make a 1592 01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,160 Speaker 1: uncomfortable situation worse. 1593 01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,000 Speaker 16: Checking down an eight have it at the Colts thirty 1594 01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:56,519 Speaker 16: four yard line. Colts twenty Panthers ten thirteen to sixty 1595 01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,320 Speaker 16: one to go. Here's the fourth quarter play action. Bryce 1596 01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,280 Speaker 16: Young left home and it's picked off by the Colts. 1597 01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:03,519 Speaker 16: They're running the other head with it. 1598 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:04,439 Speaker 13: It's Kenny Morgan. 1599 01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:09,840 Speaker 4: He's at the thirty twenty fifteen ten touchdown two of 1600 01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,760 Speaker 4: the day, a pick six by Kenny Moore. 1601 01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:18,760 Speaker 6: Touchdown indeed, why climber twenty three PAA day. 1602 01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,759 Speaker 1: It's twenty six to ten. 1603 01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,760 Speaker 2: And you see the shot on the telecast of Bryce 1604 01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:27,800 Speaker 2: Young pulling the chin strop off, walking dejectedly back to 1605 01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:28,439 Speaker 2: the sideline. 1606 01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:29,400 Speaker 1: He threw two pick. 1607 01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:34,599 Speaker 2: Sixes to Kenny Moore at home on Sunday in Charlotte 1608 01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:40,559 Speaker 2: and the Colts cruise to a twenty seven to thirteen 1609 01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,680 Speaker 2: win that snaps a three game losing streak for the 1610 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:46,639 Speaker 2: Colts and gets. 1611 01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:51,439 Speaker 1: Them, you know, back in the AFC playoff hunt. 1612 01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:55,160 Speaker 2: Gregie, you tell me where you want to start, we 1613 01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:56,800 Speaker 2: could look at from the Bryce Young side of things, 1614 01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:57,200 Speaker 2: or we. 1615 01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:58,240 Speaker 1: Can talk some cults here. 1616 01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,280 Speaker 3: I want to set up where that pick six from 1617 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,519 Speaker 3: because it was twenty to ten at that point. Young 1618 01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,280 Speaker 3: had probably the worst half of football, definitely that I 1619 01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:08,840 Speaker 3: had seen him play seven for fourteen for thirty four 1620 01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:12,080 Speaker 3: yards in the first half, holding the ball too long, 1621 01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:13,760 Speaker 3: had the pick six. 1622 01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,280 Speaker 1: That was the play calling. I know we've had a 1623 01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:17,320 Speaker 1: change in play callers. 1624 01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,920 Speaker 4: Not a I mean, not much positive was happening. 1625 01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:23,559 Speaker 3: You know, when you're seven for fourteen for thirty five yards, 1626 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:27,160 Speaker 3: just holding the ball and nothing down the field. And 1627 01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:28,760 Speaker 3: then they came out for the second half. I was 1628 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:30,519 Speaker 3: thinking the same thing. It was like, okay, let's show 1629 01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:31,680 Speaker 3: up in the second half. I had one of their 1630 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:33,479 Speaker 3: best drives of the year. I would have said, wasn't 1631 01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,040 Speaker 3: all Bryce Young. It was a running game to fifteen plays, 1632 01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:39,720 Speaker 3: get a touchdown, get a stop. Then he hits a 1633 01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,200 Speaker 3: fifty yarder to Hayden Hurst. We're cooking here. And that 1634 01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:47,280 Speaker 3: was the moment that he threw that pick six. So 1635 01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:51,800 Speaker 3: the air just completely went out of the stadium and 1636 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,640 Speaker 3: I couldn't help but thinking, man, that was that a 1637 01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,479 Speaker 3: play where the height did come into play because it 1638 01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:58,559 Speaker 3: was a screen pass. 1639 01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,400 Speaker 4: You just never expect pick six on a screen pass. 1640 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,200 Speaker 3: And the play was blown up a little early, like 1641 01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:06,240 Speaker 3: the timing was off, but there were multiple defenders and 1642 01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:09,880 Speaker 3: offensive players in between. And he threw you know, he 1643 01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:13,519 Speaker 3: hit like a four iron when you needed a pitching wedge, 1644 01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,360 Speaker 3: you know, to go up nice and high over the 1645 01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:17,200 Speaker 3: thing and have a nice touch pass. 1646 01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:19,280 Speaker 1: And caddy, aren't you. 1647 01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,240 Speaker 3: I was the guy in the back room that would 1648 01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:29,880 Speaker 3: wash the guy's clubs. Also, yeah, the clubhouse attendant. Also 1649 01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,240 Speaker 3: if it was raining, you go to the bottom of 1650 01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,519 Speaker 3: the hill and you drive the guys up the hill 1651 01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,320 Speaker 3: who don't have their own carts, or maybe you hold 1652 01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:37,040 Speaker 3: the umbrella. 1653 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,160 Speaker 7: So rich guys stuff like that. 1654 01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:43,000 Speaker 3: Yes, Bryce Young, I mean, I don't think he's gonna 1655 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:44,880 Speaker 3: be working at a golf course or anything like that. 1656 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,400 Speaker 4: I'm not as worried about him at this That's what 1657 01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:47,760 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 1658 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,080 Speaker 3: I'm not as worried about him as you I certainly 1659 01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,320 Speaker 3: you know, I don't think it's a big deal to me. 1660 01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,880 Speaker 3: I know it's uncomfortable for Panthers fans, but I've seen 1661 01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,720 Speaker 3: enough that I'm not worried about him having like a 1662 01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:03,599 Speaker 3: solid NFL I've seen high picks look like so much 1663 01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:04,320 Speaker 3: worse than him. 1664 01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,800 Speaker 4: I can see it. Everything around him is bad. 1665 01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:11,599 Speaker 3: But it's also obvious that Stroud and even Richardson when 1666 01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,360 Speaker 3: he was in there, like showed really special enough to 1667 01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:15,120 Speaker 3: get more clarify. 1668 01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,439 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that I feel like they have a 1669 01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,200 Speaker 2: bust on their hands, but it just stinks. I mean, 1670 01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,080 Speaker 2: it's stinks for everybody connected to that building right now. 1671 01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:27,000 Speaker 3: I Metro and the Texans literally last factored that game 1672 01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:28,640 Speaker 3: in two I thought he looked good in that game, 1673 01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 3: and he gave me evidence that he can do it. 1674 01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,320 Speaker 7: I think it's compared to what we saw C. J. 1675 01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,160 Speaker 5: Stroud do in front of a national audience today, Like 1676 01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:39,599 Speaker 5: the Colts end with five scoreless drives and you take 1677 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,480 Speaker 5: away the two pick sixes and the Panthers. 1678 01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,639 Speaker 3: Played in this the Colts didn't even top two hundred yards. 1679 01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:47,160 Speaker 3: I mean, minshew. They had a couple of drives early 1680 01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,639 Speaker 3: in this game where Taylor got going. They won field goal, touchdown, 1681 01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,000 Speaker 3: field goal in the second quarter. They only had four 1682 01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,080 Speaker 3: drives in the first half. After that, they did absolutely nothing. 1683 01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,720 Speaker 3: The Panthers defense played well enough for them to win 1684 01:16:58,920 --> 01:16:59,719 Speaker 3: and they didn't. 1685 01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:00,320 Speaker 4: It's tough. 1686 01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:03,280 Speaker 3: This was his worst game, Bryce ng even if you 1687 01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:05,320 Speaker 3: took away the pick sixes, I would say this might 1688 01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:06,280 Speaker 3: have been his worst game. 1689 01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,080 Speaker 1: And I think the part of it is the disappointment too. 1690 01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:11,080 Speaker 2: That did seem set up well for him to take 1691 01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,960 Speaker 2: the next step today after having that nice win last week, 1692 01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,880 Speaker 2: and you're at home against the struggling Colts team and 1693 01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:18,880 Speaker 2: it doesn't work out. 1694 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:21,519 Speaker 3: So Colts have it off here. By the way, they're 1695 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:25,519 Speaker 3: four and five. They've got the Patriots and Frankfurt next 1696 01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,280 Speaker 3: week on NFL Network. 1697 01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:28,519 Speaker 1: There. 1698 01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:33,960 Speaker 3: I think they only play two winning teams the rest 1699 01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:34,559 Speaker 3: of the season. 1700 01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,240 Speaker 7: It us like no Germany, like you get like try 1701 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:39,719 Speaker 7: to stay awake watching the Patriots. 1702 01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:44,120 Speaker 3: I mean, that's an old rivalry Manning Brady. Remember, I'm 1703 01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,880 Speaker 3: sure we'll see some some nice ones. They I think 1704 01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:50,519 Speaker 3: they had the second easiest record based on strength the 1705 01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:51,599 Speaker 3: schedule the rest. 1706 01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:53,800 Speaker 4: Of the way. The Colts they're not totally out of 1707 01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:54,160 Speaker 4: it either. 1708 01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:55,920 Speaker 7: They just can't get in their own way because they 1709 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:57,400 Speaker 7: feel like they're prone to get in the. 1710 01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:58,120 Speaker 4: Right I don't. 1711 01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,280 Speaker 3: I don't think they're built or enough in any area. 1712 01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,600 Speaker 3: And with minshe as their quarterback, to win enough of 1713 01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,920 Speaker 3: those games, they'll probably more like, you know, go eight 1714 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,840 Speaker 3: and nine something like that, but they do have a chance. 1715 01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:14,400 Speaker 2: Hey, moving on, you can only play your schedule, and 1716 01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,840 Speaker 2: you don't you don't ask for you know, you don't 1717 01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,240 Speaker 2: give anything back or say, oh you shouldn't, you know, 1718 01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,760 Speaker 2: put too much into this game. No, forget about that, 1719 01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:26,679 Speaker 2: because everything evens out. But the Browns had the Cardinals 1720 01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,639 Speaker 2: today and they also got Clayton Fune and the Browns 1721 01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:33,559 Speaker 2: in that situation absolutely should dominate, and that they did. 1722 01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,479 Speaker 9: My friend Deshaun Watson under center, hands of the Hunt 1723 01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:40,919 Speaker 9: running right side, had courses his way in for a touchdown. 1724 01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:45,000 Speaker 9: Kareem Hunt on a three yard touchdown run. He's third 1725 01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:48,479 Speaker 9: of the season and the Cleveland Browns now have a 1726 01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,040 Speaker 9: twenty six nothing leaves. 1727 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,280 Speaker 2: And for Kareem Hunt now he has scored in four 1728 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,439 Speaker 2: straight games for the Browns. That's four straight with a 1729 01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,759 Speaker 2: rushing touchdown, the longest active streak in the NFL. 1730 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:07,840 Speaker 1: That was very informational. Where's Ceciliano? 1731 01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:13,080 Speaker 4: I want to know He's on NFL Fast Channel this morning. 1732 01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:13,680 Speaker 4: That's where he is. 1733 01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,439 Speaker 1: Paul Keels with that call with Nathan Segura, w k 1734 01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:19,840 Speaker 1: R Kay. 1735 01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:25,439 Speaker 2: The Cleveland Browns got Deshaun Watson back in the lineup, 1736 01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:28,840 Speaker 2: and he threw two touchdown passes and then they leaned 1737 01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,639 Speaker 2: down a defense that once again dominated and a twenty 1738 01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,400 Speaker 2: seven to Zilch win over the Cardinals market is the 1739 01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:37,880 Speaker 2: first Brown shutout. 1740 01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:41,519 Speaker 5: Since Man, I'd have to go back to maybe even 1741 01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:43,800 Speaker 5: Bill Belichick and night No, night. 1742 01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:45,920 Speaker 1: Was well, I don't think it was that far back. 1743 01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,240 Speaker 2: I will get that too, first shoutout since two thousand 1744 01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,479 Speaker 2: and seven, and you got Watson back? 1745 01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:52,439 Speaker 1: How did Watson back? We'll get to the defense in 1746 01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,320 Speaker 1: a bit, you know. 1747 01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,320 Speaker 5: I think it's one thing that's been like consistent with 1748 01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,400 Speaker 5: that offense is that I thought Amari Cooper's sort of 1749 01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,040 Speaker 5: shown Chemist Street with anyone who's in there to some degree. 1750 01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,800 Speaker 5: And there was there was a great fifty nine yard 1751 01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:08,840 Speaker 5: pass from Watson to Cooper, some good things, a little 1752 01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:10,719 Speaker 5: bit better than what we've seen from Watson. I also 1753 01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:12,720 Speaker 5: just felt that there were a couple of plays where 1754 01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:16,160 Speaker 5: it was like, did this guy like work with anyone 1755 01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,080 Speaker 5: in the offseason on like his I just seemed like 1756 01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,559 Speaker 5: the Deshaun Watson of old, Like there was some weird 1757 01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,160 Speaker 5: footwork in this where he's just throwing the ball off. 1758 01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:26,160 Speaker 5: Just didn't look like Deshaun Watson, the guy that we knew, 1759 01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:29,160 Speaker 5: and so it was better than like the ugliest aspects 1760 01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:30,120 Speaker 5: we've seen from Watson. 1761 01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,599 Speaker 7: A little bit of an uptick, but I don't trust 1762 01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:33,120 Speaker 7: him right now. 1763 01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:37,440 Speaker 3: Well, he'll love a tough test next week against Baltimore. 1764 01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:38,720 Speaker 3: We'll get to that during the week. 1765 01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:39,080 Speaker 4: I'm with you. 1766 01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,439 Speaker 3: By the way, You've been talking about Cooper all season, 1767 01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,960 Speaker 3: and it's one of those like Cooper's had really great 1768 01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:48,760 Speaker 3: seasons mixed in with lesser. I don't know why that is, 1769 01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:50,680 Speaker 3: but if he was on a better offense, like he 1770 01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:52,360 Speaker 3: would be putting up fourteen hundred. 1771 01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:53,280 Speaker 7: And this is he's made plays every week. 1772 01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,120 Speaker 1: Another helmet ricochet touchdown, which I've never seen before. 1773 01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:57,080 Speaker 7: This was very strange. 1774 01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:58,960 Speaker 1: And now that he has two in the last two 1775 01:20:59,080 --> 01:20:59,639 Speaker 1: or three weeks. 1776 01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:01,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, wow, that's in their playbook at this point. 1777 01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,320 Speaker 4: That was also how they lost last week's game. 1778 01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:08,599 Speaker 3: So I guess helmet ricochetes giveth and Helmmett ricochets takes true. 1779 01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,800 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, and got to watch this game, but statistically, 1780 01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:16,280 Speaker 2: Watson looked like he played okay, and the fact that 1781 01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,479 Speaker 2: he made it through the game, they're just I feel 1782 01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:19,880 Speaker 2: like you're just trying to get to the point where 1783 01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,880 Speaker 2: he's no longer It's like this soap opera around him 1784 01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:23,280 Speaker 2: week to week. 1785 01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:23,960 Speaker 1: Is he gonna play? 1786 01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:24,920 Speaker 4: Think we're there, We'll see. 1787 01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:25,200 Speaker 17: I think. 1788 01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,320 Speaker 2: So he stays in the lineup and builds off this, 1789 01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:29,679 Speaker 2: we'll see, because we've been saying it all year. Mark 1790 01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,679 Speaker 2: you if you can just get you know, solid quarterback 1791 01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:36,080 Speaker 2: play with this defense, you could do damage in the 1792 01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:39,880 Speaker 2: AFC and in that division. And the Cardinals stink they're 1793 01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,640 Speaker 2: one and eight, but again like this is they can 1794 01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:44,960 Speaker 2: flex on teams and it is. That's I think a 1795 01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,639 Speaker 2: very interesting game next week against the Ravens because it's 1796 01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:48,920 Speaker 2: a real uh gut check for that. 1797 01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,040 Speaker 5: Well, the Ravens totally outclassed them in the first matchup, 1798 01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:54,400 Speaker 5: so I think it's like it's an opportunity for Cleveland 1799 01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:59,479 Speaker 5: to suggest who they actually are. This defense though, and yes, 1800 01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,600 Speaker 5: it was the perfect situation where Clayton Tune is just 1801 01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,920 Speaker 5: simply not ready to play. The team has broken down 1802 01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:09,120 Speaker 5: post Josh Stobbs. They were out yardage three hundred and 1803 01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:10,439 Speaker 5: twenty six to fifty eight. 1804 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:14,800 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, what that's a typo. No, they 1805 01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:16,920 Speaker 1: had fifty eight yards fifty eight. 1806 01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,880 Speaker 7: If I know Mark, the entire game, I fifty eight 1807 01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:20,719 Speaker 7: total yards. 1808 01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:22,000 Speaker 10: They had it. 1809 01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,840 Speaker 5: They was for twelve on third down, like I wrote down, 1810 01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:27,640 Speaker 5: you just don't see games like this. 1811 01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:28,559 Speaker 7: I don't recall. 1812 01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:32,360 Speaker 5: This is like destroying your younger brother in Madden or 1813 01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:33,679 Speaker 5: some sort of computer outposts. 1814 01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:35,519 Speaker 3: If I know you, Mark and I would have been 1815 01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,400 Speaker 3: the same way, So I don't want to project here. 1816 01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:39,840 Speaker 3: I would have been rooting like how those last few 1817 01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,960 Speaker 3: Cardinals drives, You're like, don't just get like some random 1818 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:43,519 Speaker 3: big play. 1819 01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,080 Speaker 4: Don't like go on like a seventy yard field go drive. 1820 01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,920 Speaker 3: I want these beautiful, ridiculous stats for the podcast later. 1821 01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:52,760 Speaker 3: They don't deserve to go over fifty eight yards. Josh, 1822 01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,160 Speaker 3: I think it was Dubo of the Associated Press said 1823 01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:58,040 Speaker 3: they're the fourteenth team since the merger. 1824 01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:00,720 Speaker 4: That's a long time ago to be held under sixty years. 1825 01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:02,600 Speaker 2: You know who else was hoping that they weren't going 1826 01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:04,200 Speaker 2: to give up a field goal at the end, People 1827 01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:06,840 Speaker 2: like me that started the Browns and fantasy they get 1828 01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:10,439 Speaker 2: that twenty nine point outing. Here's a parallel mark that 1829 01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:12,840 Speaker 2: I want to let tell me if you agree because 1830 01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:17,160 Speaker 2: we talked about the Dolphins when they've been playing lesser opponents, 1831 01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,960 Speaker 2: they don't just beat them with their offense, they embarrass them. 1832 01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,479 Speaker 2: So they have that ability, and I'm seeing the same 1833 01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:27,120 Speaker 2: thing with Cleveland's defense, where they have this ability to 1834 01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:31,720 Speaker 2: just level up and really humiliate an opponent. But there 1835 01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,800 Speaker 2: are still questions about how that defense plays against big 1836 01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:35,680 Speaker 2: time competition. 1837 01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:37,280 Speaker 1: So again, I do like it. 1838 01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,679 Speaker 5: I think that's an ideal, that's an ideal parallel because 1839 01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,760 Speaker 5: it's like when the Ravens started to crack through and 1840 01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,519 Speaker 5: become what they were with their ground game. The first 1841 01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,920 Speaker 5: kind of hints of that, We're lashing Cleveland's defense right 1842 01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:50,280 Speaker 5: up the middle, and I think, so the next week 1843 01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:50,960 Speaker 5: is a big test. 1844 01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:53,519 Speaker 7: But how often does this happen? 1845 01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,920 Speaker 5: Shit noted this as well, that fifty percent of Arizona's 1846 01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,759 Speaker 5: forty eight plays went for zero or negative yards. 1847 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:01,840 Speaker 7: That just doesn't happen in the NFL. 1848 01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:03,960 Speaker 2: That's not the first time we've had this type of 1849 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,719 Speaker 2: conversation on the Sunday this year about the Browns. 1850 01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:08,280 Speaker 1: They've done this to a couple of teams. 1851 01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,960 Speaker 4: Now, absolutely half the plays went for zero yards or less. 1852 01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,160 Speaker 5: I would notice, I wouldn't know that they're left tackled. 1853 01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,439 Speaker 5: Jed Will's went out with it looked like a very 1854 01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:18,599 Speaker 5: painful knee ankle injury. 1855 01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:19,160 Speaker 7: Carted off. 1856 01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:20,680 Speaker 1: Uh, you've been on on that. 1857 01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,679 Speaker 5: Marky s Goodwin was hurt. They traded away Donovan People's Jones, 1858 01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,080 Speaker 5: so we'll see. I mean, health could be a factor. 1859 01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,080 Speaker 1: But the Browns are five and three. 1860 01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:30,320 Speaker 2: There's a lot of drama around this team, and there 1861 01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:32,519 Speaker 2: has been for a couple of years, but they're in 1862 01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,120 Speaker 2: good position now as they head towards the second half. 1863 01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,599 Speaker 2: Let's move now to lambeau Field where the Packers are 1864 01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:38,720 Speaker 2: trying to get their mojo back. 1865 01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:40,479 Speaker 1: Jones on the slot right now. 1866 01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,720 Speaker 8: He orbit routes to the left and they faked the 1867 01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,400 Speaker 8: past to Joe swinging over the middle of musk Grave 1868 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:53,519 Speaker 8: ten the end zone, touchdown and a dagger, excellent bull 1869 01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:57,840 Speaker 8: fake bye the quarterback Jordan Lovey found Musgrave. 1870 01:24:57,960 --> 01:24:58,320 Speaker 12: Why not? 1871 01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:01,040 Speaker 8: But at the ten end of the end zone, pull 1872 01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:04,000 Speaker 8: the touchdown. It's nineteen to three Green Bay. 1873 01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,479 Speaker 2: You know, I know it's different when you're beating up 1874 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,479 Speaker 2: on Brett Rippon in the Rams as opposed to Matthew Stafford. 1875 01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,280 Speaker 2: But again, like with the Browns, the Packers needed a 1876 01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,280 Speaker 2: game like this, a nice rocking chair win take care 1877 01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,880 Speaker 2: of business, which they did twenty to three over the Rams, 1878 01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,800 Speaker 2: snapping a four game losing streak. Yes, you had the 1879 01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:30,360 Speaker 2: dagger there, as explained by Wayne Larravie of WRNW, but 1880 01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:32,040 Speaker 2: you also got Aaron Jones. 1881 01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:32,679 Speaker 1: Back in the end zone. 1882 01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:36,519 Speaker 2: And I believe I believe this that finally they scored 1883 01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:38,800 Speaker 2: a touchdown in the first half, which is something that 1884 01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,720 Speaker 2: just has not been happening this year. So Greg, you 1885 01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,680 Speaker 2: tell us if it was a sign of things to come, 1886 01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,519 Speaker 2: or just take you know, catch an opponent at the 1887 01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:49,360 Speaker 2: right time at home. 1888 01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:53,280 Speaker 3: I leaned toward the latter, baby. Look, they ran for 1889 01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,439 Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty four yards, Aaron Jones and Dylan 1890 01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,560 Speaker 3: combined for one thirteen. Like for them, that's an explosion, 1891 01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:03,880 Speaker 3: and some of that was early, but Brett Rippen and 1892 01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:09,000 Speaker 3: there the Rams offense was essentially non functional, even on 1893 01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,720 Speaker 3: Jordan Love's best play of the game, which was a 1894 01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:16,280 Speaker 3: deep shot to Watson on that game you know, ceiling drive. 1895 01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,880 Speaker 3: Although at that point it was thirteen to three and 1896 01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,439 Speaker 3: it felt like the Rams weren't gonna possibly get the 1897 01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:25,240 Speaker 3: double digits at any point in this game. Christian Watson 1898 01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:27,400 Speaker 3: skies up for a pass to catch a thirty seven 1899 01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:29,719 Speaker 3: yard A wow, they finally hit a deep shot, especially 1900 01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:33,439 Speaker 3: after Jordan Love missed Watson who was wide open earlier 1901 01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:37,160 Speaker 3: in the game. He underthrew him and Watson hurt his 1902 01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:42,360 Speaker 3: back and his chest and was in the concussion protocol 1903 01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:44,920 Speaker 3: all in one play. So it was like it was like, 1904 01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:49,160 Speaker 3: even on your best play of the game, there was 1905 01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:51,479 Speaker 3: something to be upset about, and there was like a 1906 01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:55,639 Speaker 3: lot of sloppy offensive play by Green Bay to keep 1907 01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,160 Speaker 3: this more of a game than it should have. It 1908 01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:00,840 Speaker 3: was ten to three still entering the fourth quarter, so 1909 01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:04,160 Speaker 3: I didn't come away too excited, except for. 1910 01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:06,519 Speaker 7: You didn't sound excited when sorry Packers. 1911 01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:10,280 Speaker 1: I tried, but I was wondering. 1912 01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,880 Speaker 3: About the defense, dominated I told Mark, I said, if 1913 01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:15,640 Speaker 3: there was one game to not watch so far, of 1914 01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,639 Speaker 3: all the games this year, this would be my choice. 1915 01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:21,799 Speaker 1: So far, we haven't gotten to Giants Raiders yet, but yeah. 1916 01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:24,120 Speaker 4: But that's sort of I want to see Giants Raiders. 1917 01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:26,439 Speaker 4: I don't know why I ate in O'Connell or whatever. 1918 01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:29,680 Speaker 5: It's the opposite of what we think November football is 1919 01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:31,599 Speaker 5: because it's like, if you're the Rams you've lost your 1920 01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,320 Speaker 5: starting running back. You're stuck with Brett Rippian at quarterback. 1921 01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:35,800 Speaker 1: It's just like you did it again. 1922 01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:37,360 Speaker 7: That's how I'll always call him that. 1923 01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:40,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're handing off to Royce Freeman. I mean Ripian, 1924 01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:42,680 Speaker 3: you can you can get a. 1925 01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,639 Speaker 1: I think it was his dad is literally Super Bowl MVP. 1926 01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:49,240 Speaker 5: I know, but I've been I've been calling him Rippian 1927 01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:53,360 Speaker 5: since like the early nineties. It's weird because that's how 1928 01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:53,880 Speaker 5: I see it. 1929 01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,200 Speaker 3: With the way I'm remembering you calling him Rippian over 1930 01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:57,880 Speaker 3: and over again. 1931 01:27:57,920 --> 01:27:59,280 Speaker 4: And this is back in Culver City. 1932 01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,600 Speaker 3: This is I'm actually surprised Brett Rippian has been in 1933 01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:03,479 Speaker 3: our life that long. 1934 01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:07,679 Speaker 1: How much more Brett Rippian do we need to see? 1935 01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:09,519 Speaker 1: By the way, there's got to be somebody better. 1936 01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,120 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, they thought John Wolford, I think was better, 1937 01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,040 Speaker 3: and the Bucks wouldn't let them. 1938 01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,479 Speaker 2: They also did draft a quarterback who was winning national 1939 01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:18,639 Speaker 2: titlers in Georgia, and that has sourced out. 1940 01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,920 Speaker 3: Well, yeah he's not available, and so that that was 1941 01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:24,360 Speaker 3: their plan. That was maybe a questionable plan to begin with, 1942 01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:27,519 Speaker 3: but it's not working. And mcvai didn't help him by 1943 01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,760 Speaker 3: going run, run pass Seemingly every can't do that. 1944 01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:33,200 Speaker 1: And that's the old Hackett movie. 1945 01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:35,320 Speaker 2: It does not work with a quarterback you're trying to hide, 1946 01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:37,759 Speaker 2: you just end up putting them in worse You're trying 1947 01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,360 Speaker 2: to protect him and the team, but you end up 1948 01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,960 Speaker 2: putting him in worse situations. 1949 01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:46,439 Speaker 1: In it, Saniel Hackett. Yes, nice, it's okay to throw 1950 01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:47,040 Speaker 1: on first down. 1951 01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:49,439 Speaker 3: Pal, Okay, let's come up with one positive thing about 1952 01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:53,720 Speaker 3: the Packers and then move on. Who's their guy? Carrington? Oh, 1953 01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:57,439 Speaker 3: Carrington Valentine their cornerback who started? They traded Razil Douglas like. 1954 01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:59,360 Speaker 3: He looked quite good this game, so maybe they knew 1955 01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,800 Speaker 3: what they were doing. Their inserting the young player and 1956 01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,599 Speaker 3: jyr Alexander played really well and said that he feels 1957 01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:05,280 Speaker 3: healthier than he. 1958 01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,040 Speaker 2: Has all year, So maybe and I'll throw one more 1959 01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:11,760 Speaker 2: out there, give him something wide receiver Dontavian licks four 1960 01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:14,280 Speaker 2: for forty nine. They need somebody else to step up, 1961 01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:18,520 Speaker 2: especially Wots and missus time and he was, ah, dang, Greg. 1962 01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:18,960 Speaker 1: I'm trying. 1963 01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,240 Speaker 4: He had the most Packers playing fun behind the glass. 1964 01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:24,880 Speaker 3: I'm trying, but he was reaching for a first down. 1965 01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,280 Speaker 3: You know the play I'm talking about. Randy At the 1966 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,320 Speaker 3: beginning of the second half when was only seventy three 1967 01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,240 Speaker 3: and he dives for the first down and he just 1968 01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,160 Speaker 3: slams it on the ground and he hits the ground, 1969 01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:35,559 Speaker 3: and then the Rams just pick up the back touched 1970 01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,240 Speaker 3: him at that point, So that was a fumball. 1971 01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:43,000 Speaker 2: And finally, let's give the floor over to one of 1972 01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:46,799 Speaker 2: the great actors of his or any generation, who's finally 1973 01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:50,360 Speaker 2: asking the question that apparently everyone has been sitting on quietly. 1974 01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:51,360 Speaker 1: Samuel L. 1975 01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:54,880 Speaker 2: Jackson tweeted, at what point do we start the RAMS 1976 01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:59,800 Speaker 2: coaching conversation? Double question mark, double slammer viewed over five 1977 01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,760 Speaker 2: hundred thousand times of a couple of hours ago. 1978 01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:04,320 Speaker 1: Is that a thing? 1979 01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:06,840 Speaker 7: I don't know if I'm like, if I'm like Sean McVay. 1980 01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:13,599 Speaker 2: Wait, oh, Sammy Jackson thrown out a flashpoint focus. 1981 01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,400 Speaker 1: I don't think that sam l himself. 1982 01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:18,840 Speaker 4: This is not the year for it. 1983 01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,120 Speaker 3: Sam I don't think that he's this is not I 1984 01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:24,320 Speaker 3: love that he's invested enough in the Rams that he's 1985 01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:28,640 Speaker 3: acting like an irrational fan, because I think that's I 1986 01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:32,679 Speaker 3: think the most again, the most irrational of RAMS fans 1987 01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:34,639 Speaker 3: that are too emotional in the middle of a game. 1988 01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:37,120 Speaker 3: Maybe they're sending out that type of tweet. 1989 01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:38,400 Speaker 7: You never know what else is going on. 1990 01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:41,320 Speaker 4: One that I trust is football acumen, but you know. 1991 01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:44,000 Speaker 2: It's the wording that I enjoy and also that his 1992 01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:46,280 Speaker 2: like avatar is a picture of him with a very 1993 01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:47,920 Speaker 2: serious face. 1994 01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:51,640 Speaker 1: At what point do we start the RAMS coaching conversation? 1995 01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:54,920 Speaker 5: This is somebody had to say it a group convo 1996 01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:56,960 Speaker 5: that he's part of with a bunch of people discussing. 1997 01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,880 Speaker 4: It's truly because this the RAMS, they could be in 1998 01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:00,479 Speaker 4: the mix. 1999 01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:03,080 Speaker 3: They should have been winning this Like this was a 2000 01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:06,280 Speaker 3: great case for Matthew Stafford to make the Pro Bowl 2001 01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:10,320 Speaker 3: this year because like the difference between him and Brett 2002 01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:13,679 Speaker 3: Rippian is them either winning you don't do it too Wait. 2003 01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:14,280 Speaker 4: Now I'm doing it. 2004 01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:20,160 Speaker 1: We are a professional podcast here. His father won the 2005 01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:21,519 Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP. 2006 01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:24,920 Speaker 2: One of the great teams of that are the nineteen 2007 01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:28,840 Speaker 2: ninety two Redskins were a super underrated team and they 2008 01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:29,559 Speaker 2: stopped the ball. 2009 01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,000 Speaker 7: They destroyed people the entire way. 2010 01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:37,840 Speaker 2: Best Samuel L. Jackson film Mark performance for me pulp fiction, Jules. 2011 01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:39,960 Speaker 4: I mean, now that's all I'm going with. What else 2012 01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:40,600 Speaker 4: am I going to go with? 2013 01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:45,000 Speaker 1: You could go with the Jackie Brown character he played. 2014 01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:46,960 Speaker 7: Jackie Brown, he's a scouter. 2015 01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:50,240 Speaker 4: How about deep Wait what was the shark one? Deep Bluecy? 2016 01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:53,200 Speaker 2: No, probably not that one, but I I can't say 2017 01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:55,800 Speaker 2: the full line because I can't. But my fait one 2018 01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:59,360 Speaker 2: of my favorite lines in all of Quentin Tarantino universe, 2019 01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:01,400 Speaker 2: uh is when he says. 2020 01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:05,479 Speaker 1: Bully for you or was it bully to you? Bully 2021 01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:08,080 Speaker 1: for you? For you? I believe I can't finish it, 2022 01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:09,559 Speaker 1: but it was like a great deliver Yeah. 2023 01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:11,880 Speaker 2: I think people probably know what the next you know, 2024 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:13,640 Speaker 2: few words classic Samuel. 2025 01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,000 Speaker 4: Daky Brown would would be a good choice. 2026 01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:18,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, and deep Lucy. You know you could 2027 01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:21,320 Speaker 2: throw it out there. It's it's one of the more 2028 01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:27,839 Speaker 2: populist works. But all right, one more before sunder football. 2029 01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:32,679 Speaker 2: We got to talk about it. Giants Raiders o Connor. 2030 01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:37,559 Speaker 2: He gives it to Jacobs, calling the offensive line way 2031 01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:39,639 Speaker 2: more jus fact lose. 2032 01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:41,160 Speaker 10: But they called a touchdown. 2033 01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:43,439 Speaker 1: Wut to Washington? 2034 01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:45,720 Speaker 6: Tell me if it stood over the line before it 2035 01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:49,680 Speaker 6: popped out of his hands his second rushing touchdown of 2036 01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:50,120 Speaker 6: the day. 2037 01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:54,000 Speaker 4: How the Robertson pick isn't Jacob's touchdown? 2038 01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,320 Speaker 1: Hey, it's twenty to nothing here late in the. 2039 01:32:56,360 --> 01:33:08,559 Speaker 18: Second Yeah, city, we take out that fork, Dan, I mean, 2040 01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:11,719 Speaker 18: I think it's time. 2041 01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:13,639 Speaker 1: Time. 2042 01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:17,120 Speaker 2: You know, if they didn't blow that game last week, 2043 01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,280 Speaker 2: I thought they had a chance to make some noise. 2044 01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:21,680 Speaker 1: But also there are a couple other factors going on 2045 01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:23,840 Speaker 1: with the Giants right now. By the way, I was 2046 01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:27,360 Speaker 1: in Vegas this morning. I was there over the weekend. 2047 01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:30,320 Speaker 2: I checked out the U two shoe at the Sphere, 2048 01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:33,760 Speaker 2: which was incredible, the only good thing James Dolan's ever done. 2049 01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:40,160 Speaker 1: Great time. I loved it. And there were a lot 2050 01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,639 Speaker 1: of Giants fans flying into Vegas over the weekend. 2051 01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:45,080 Speaker 2: And as watching that game, I'm like, oh my god. 2052 01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:48,519 Speaker 2: People spent a lot of money to go to this game, 2053 01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:53,360 Speaker 2: which was a easy, I mean easy, thirty to six 2054 01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:57,679 Speaker 2: win for the Raiders. And remember this is the Raiders 2055 01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:02,599 Speaker 2: that are in absolute tumult. They call it the dead Cat, 2056 01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:10,599 Speaker 2: the dead Cat bounce. It's a temporary uptick in I guess, 2057 01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:13,759 Speaker 2: some stock performance. But also in the case of sports teams, 2058 01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:17,200 Speaker 2: they'll probably go back to stinking next week. Maybe probably, 2059 01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:21,200 Speaker 2: but with a new head coach the Raiders, Antonio Pierce, 2060 01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:25,160 Speaker 2: shout out to you, buddy, congratulations your first win. A 2061 01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:29,720 Speaker 2: new offensive coordinator a new Well, no, they didn't name 2062 01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:34,080 Speaker 2: a new general manager yet, but he gone and a 2063 01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:38,840 Speaker 2: new quarterback, Aidan O'Connell. They easily take care of business 2064 01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:43,320 Speaker 2: with Josh Jacobs not averaging four yards of carry because 2065 01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:45,720 Speaker 2: we can't do that, but he did have two touchdowns 2066 01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:49,080 Speaker 2: as they jumped out to a twenty four nothing halftime lead. 2067 01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:52,439 Speaker 2: So the Raiders almost impossibly like under the you know, 2068 01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:54,599 Speaker 2: you just think they must be a train wreck based 2069 01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:56,040 Speaker 2: on all the reporting. We'll get to a little of 2070 01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:59,000 Speaker 2: the Josh McDaniels drama that dropped this morning. They're four 2071 01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:02,519 Speaker 2: and five somehow in the mix in the AFC. I'm 2072 01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:05,360 Speaker 2: not saying they're a team to take seriously, but they're 2073 01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:07,240 Speaker 2: better than the Giants who are two and seven. Yes, 2074 01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:11,360 Speaker 2: fourth they're out. I apologize for keeping them alive. 2075 01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:14,439 Speaker 5: No, this is not like a Jeff Saturday scenario where 2076 01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:16,519 Speaker 5: like the bump in their first game was like, well 2077 01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:17,800 Speaker 5: that can't possibly last. 2078 01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:19,040 Speaker 7: I don't know what will happen here. 2079 01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:22,519 Speaker 5: But Antonio Pierce, who Mark Davis got to know better 2080 01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:26,760 Speaker 5: over the last during this season, has the locker room 2081 01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:29,720 Speaker 5: like we can get into the Josh McDaniel stuff, but 2082 01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:31,519 Speaker 5: it's like I think in a way. This is like 2083 01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:34,160 Speaker 5: kind of like a lot of vented frustration. We've all 2084 01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:36,640 Speaker 5: in our lives like had bad leadership over us, and 2085 01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:38,920 Speaker 5: like it can suppress you. And I think, like this 2086 01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:42,120 Speaker 5: is a team with talented players, they've had it all along. 2087 01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:45,439 Speaker 5: It's just been such a hot mess that their record 2088 01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:47,160 Speaker 5: isn't a joke to me or a fraud from who 2089 01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:47,840 Speaker 5: they really can be. 2090 01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:50,040 Speaker 7: And it's like, I don't know, in a weird. 2091 01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:53,120 Speaker 5: In a weird bottom half of the AFC, I kind 2092 01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:55,160 Speaker 5: of think this coaching switch came at the exact right 2093 01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:57,639 Speaker 5: time and saved a lot of worse stuff from happening. 2094 01:35:58,120 --> 01:35:59,519 Speaker 7: They did not play a very good team today. 2095 01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:01,719 Speaker 3: I mean, this is an all time fired coach principal. 2096 01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,640 Speaker 3: It's Brad Spicer, the Spice Racks favorite. I mean, he 2097 01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:08,280 Speaker 3: thinks he locks it in to have this like taking 2098 01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:10,840 Speaker 3: Josh McDaniels away as the fired coach principal. It's like 2099 01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:14,280 Speaker 3: an extra bounce, you know, because yes, they were trying 2100 01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:16,360 Speaker 3: to say that they weren't celebrating a practice, but they 2101 01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:17,400 Speaker 3: all seemed kind of like. 2102 01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:19,200 Speaker 4: They were celebrating. 2103 01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:22,600 Speaker 3: And it's crazy that they hadn't scored twenty points in 2104 01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:25,400 Speaker 3: a game all season. It had been the longest streak 2105 01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:27,160 Speaker 3: of not scoring twenty points in a game in Raiders 2106 01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:30,320 Speaker 3: history other than a JaMarcus Russell stretch. So they won't 2107 01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:32,640 Speaker 3: break that. And they had twenty four points a half time. 2108 01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:35,000 Speaker 3: I mean, you kind of can't make it. These kind 2109 01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:40,240 Speaker 3: of things up. The biggest halftime lead they had before 2110 01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:44,960 Speaker 3: this game Dan was twenty ten. It was against the 2111 01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:47,320 Speaker 3: Denver Broncos. Was the last time they had a halftime 2112 01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:49,360 Speaker 3: lead this big. Do you know who the coach of 2113 01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:52,760 Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos at the time of the Raiders having 2114 01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:54,519 Speaker 3: that big of a halftime late, Josh mcdonn. 2115 01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:55,840 Speaker 4: Josh freaking McDaniels. 2116 01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:59,840 Speaker 1: You can't write this, Yeah, not a guy who's going 2117 01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:02,040 Speaker 1: to get another head coaching job. That's just my no, 2118 01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:03,880 Speaker 1: my theory. I don't know if it's true or not. 2119 01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:05,360 Speaker 7: I think it's a solid theory. 2120 01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:06,639 Speaker 1: There was a reporter. 2121 01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:08,800 Speaker 2: It was reported by Ian, but also came from all 2122 01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,479 Speaker 2: different directions, So this was something that was not a 2123 01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:15,719 Speaker 2: well kept secret that the Josh McDaniels firing came after 2124 01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:22,960 Speaker 2: a revolt against him, Like remember the John Voight character 2125 01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:26,280 Speaker 2: in Varsity Blues where they all revolted against him before 2126 01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:29,320 Speaker 2: the Babe game, like where they it was a team 2127 01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:33,720 Speaker 2: meeting this from Ian and others in which everyone took 2128 01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:39,680 Speaker 2: turns basically venting and getting emotional and angry with McDaniels 2129 01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:46,439 Speaker 2: and how things how he goes about communicating, practicing everything 2130 01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:51,200 Speaker 2: about him, and it went so went so far from 2131 01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:54,200 Speaker 2: where McDaniels thought it was going to go that he 2132 01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:57,320 Speaker 2: actually waved in Antonio Pierce at one point to kind 2133 01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:59,960 Speaker 2: of almost stand up for him or the coaching staff 2134 01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:03,400 Speaker 2: rather than face the music. And then in that Thursday 2135 01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:06,280 Speaker 2: practice ahead of the Monday night game, it was reported 2136 01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:08,200 Speaker 2: that he was like a ghost basically, and he wasn't 2137 01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:11,320 Speaker 2: even really coaching the team, and he wasn't correcting anything, 2138 01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:14,120 Speaker 2: and sure enough they get beat up on Monday night 2139 01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:16,559 Speaker 2: football and he's gone the next day. That's a pretty 2140 01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:19,040 Speaker 2: We've heard a lot of crazy stories about things, you know, 2141 01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:20,720 Speaker 2: you feel like you've heard it all at this point, 2142 01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:24,160 Speaker 2: but just the way that has been reported and explained, 2143 01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:27,840 Speaker 2: that is a crazy ending to Josh McDaniels' head coaching 2144 01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:31,680 Speaker 2: career in the NFL. And yeah, Pierce's obviously got with 2145 01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:34,240 Speaker 2: no experience and there's not a lot of talent on 2146 01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:37,120 Speaker 2: this roster. But they now are completely free of that 2147 01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:39,200 Speaker 2: dark cloud and they're playing free and easy. 2148 01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:40,799 Speaker 1: Obviously, at least they were on Sunday. 2149 01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:46,479 Speaker 3: Well Glazer's nugget Jay Glazer's particular nugget that Pierce brought up, 2150 01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:49,640 Speaker 3: you know the Giants team back in O seven, saying like, 2151 01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:52,519 Speaker 3: no matter who we played, we thought we could beat them. 2152 01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:54,800 Speaker 3: We had a game plan to beat them. It's all 2153 01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:58,080 Speaker 3: about self belief, no matter what situation you're in. And 2154 01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:01,080 Speaker 3: then after he finishes the speech, McDaniels goes up to 2155 01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:03,160 Speaker 3: him and says, don't ever talk about the Patriots like that. 2156 01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:05,519 Speaker 4: I mean, that's just I mean, he's sighted. 2157 01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:07,479 Speaker 2: I thought you were also filling out to you know, 2158 01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:09,800 Speaker 2: who is the play caller of that team yet. 2159 01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:12,680 Speaker 3: But the fact that if this is true, and this 2160 01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:14,960 Speaker 3: is where I almost start to feel bad, like he's 2161 01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:17,960 Speaker 3: getting piled on. And I don't doubt the truth of 2162 01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:21,000 Speaker 3: the story, but man, that makes him look small in 2163 01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:21,519 Speaker 3: that moment. 2164 01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:27,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, crazy, Brian Table's not having a great coaching situation. 2165 01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:29,920 Speaker 4: Now we're burying the lead here, uh somewhat. 2166 01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:32,360 Speaker 3: I mean, actually the Raiders winning that big and Antonio 2167 01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:36,120 Speaker 3: Pearson's no game is big, but Daniel Jones going down 2168 01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:39,880 Speaker 3: with the knee injury that looks like a potential torn 2169 01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:43,360 Speaker 3: acl is just a really sad way for this already 2170 01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:47,000 Speaker 3: really sad giant season to get even and. 2171 01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:50,280 Speaker 2: Listen, the Jones thing was really a tough watch too 2172 01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:53,680 Speaker 2: because of what happened, Like they are Tyrod Taylor's and 2173 01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:56,320 Speaker 2: I are. We know Tommy DeVito is a guy that 2174 01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:58,960 Speaker 2: really has no business playing in the NFL, and they 2175 01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:01,080 Speaker 2: wouldn't even let him pass against the Jets last week. 2176 01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:05,160 Speaker 2: So Jones takes a shot on his knee and he 2177 01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:06,880 Speaker 2: just missed a bunch of time, and he knows there's 2178 01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:08,320 Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on him after he signs of 2179 01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:10,160 Speaker 2: the contract. He stays in the game, which is a 2180 01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:12,280 Speaker 2: credit to him, and he drops back to pass and 2181 01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:15,479 Speaker 2: when he plants his back leg, he just collapses and 2182 01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:17,200 Speaker 2: he limps to the ten. 2183 01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:20,280 Speaker 1: And now we're hearing that it's a potentially serious injury. 2184 01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:24,080 Speaker 2: It's probably the end of his season, and you know, 2185 01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:28,879 Speaker 2: this is a I mean, in terms of disaster seasons, 2186 01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:31,760 Speaker 2: I don't think there's any team that from where they 2187 01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:35,360 Speaker 2: what they thought of themselves on September first to where 2188 01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:38,519 Speaker 2: they are now on November fifth, Like you can't even 2189 01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:41,559 Speaker 2: script the worst case scenario to a Giant fan. They 2190 01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:43,360 Speaker 2: wouldn't believe you that could be as bad as it 2191 01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:45,840 Speaker 2: has been. And I don't know what happens the rest 2192 01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:47,120 Speaker 2: of the way. I don't know how many wins they have. 2193 01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:50,000 Speaker 2: Certainly you fork him here, but now you got to 2194 01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:52,120 Speaker 2: realize the Tyrod's out of the picture with a rib 2195 01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:53,760 Speaker 2: injury that had him in the hospital for a couple 2196 01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:56,400 Speaker 2: of days. Daniel Jones is out for the year, and 2197 01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:58,680 Speaker 2: you just you don't have anybody now to hold down 2198 01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:01,280 Speaker 2: the fourth They could be head towards the top three pick. 2199 01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:04,360 Speaker 5: Now, well, you cannot stick like this version of Tommy 2200 01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:08,360 Speaker 5: DeVito into the lineup. It just doesn't even seem vaguely safe, 2201 01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:11,479 Speaker 5: Like I don't know, unless you're trying to you know it, well, 2202 01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:12,280 Speaker 5: I don't know if you, I don't know. 2203 01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:14,920 Speaker 3: There's some interesting franchises now with a chance for that 2204 01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:16,480 Speaker 3: one pick. Giants, Patriots. 2205 01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:20,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there's anything else really to share 2206 01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:23,360 Speaker 2: from this guy. I was happy as a local New 2207 01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:25,880 Speaker 2: Jersey kid. DeVito did throw a touchdown late in this 2208 01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,320 Speaker 2: game that avoided the shutout, and now he could always 2209 01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:30,760 Speaker 2: say I threw a touchdown. But like this, this guy 2210 01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:33,479 Speaker 2: shouldn't be starting games in the NFL and they don't 2211 01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:35,120 Speaker 2: have another option on the roster right now. 2212 01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:37,680 Speaker 5: So I mean, I wonder if you if this is 2213 01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:41,120 Speaker 5: when Carson Wentz returns to Our Lives or or someone 2214 01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:43,720 Speaker 5: like that, because it's like this is just uh, if 2215 01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:44,840 Speaker 5: you're Brian Table, you can it. 2216 01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:46,679 Speaker 2: Couldn't get The only thing I could make their season 2217 01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:49,080 Speaker 2: more depressing is if Carson Wentz becomes their quarterback the 2218 01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:51,600 Speaker 2: rest of the way. But I don't disagree, but they 2219 01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:54,640 Speaker 2: might just they're a proud organization and maybe they they 2220 01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:57,000 Speaker 2: will make a move like that just to try to 2221 01:41:57,360 --> 01:41:59,439 Speaker 2: don't you have to they get finish line. 2222 01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:03,240 Speaker 3: These two quarterbacks, Drake Man and Caleb Williams are quite 2223 01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:05,680 Speaker 3: intriguing that I think some of these teams that are 2224 01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:09,639 Speaker 3: buried you just ride it out, just you just DeVito 2225 01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:11,840 Speaker 3: it out here. I mean, it reminds me so. 2226 01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:13,799 Speaker 1: Much you never go full divido. 2227 01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:16,320 Speaker 3: It reminds me so much of Ben mcadow's second season. 2228 01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:18,640 Speaker 3: I mean, Ben McAdoo. People kind of forget went to 2229 01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:21,759 Speaker 3: the playoffs, like Brian Dable went eleven and five, actually 2230 01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:24,320 Speaker 3: better than Brian Dable and didn't make it to the 2231 01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:26,120 Speaker 3: end of year two. Now there's not as much like 2232 01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:31,519 Speaker 3: off the field bumbling and you know, rough press conferences 2233 01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:33,200 Speaker 3: from Dable and there's I don't think there's any chance 2234 01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:34,320 Speaker 3: he would get fired. 2235 01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:37,160 Speaker 4: But the year it's very similar though. 2236 01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:41,320 Speaker 3: It's very similar though to how mcadow's two years first 2237 01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:41,840 Speaker 3: two years ago. 2238 01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:44,160 Speaker 5: I mean, he's back and having that terrible like luck 2239 01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:46,519 Speaker 5: with the health of his players, so the previous coach had. 2240 01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:49,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can'd of remember Joe Judge being somewhat popular 2241 01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:51,839 Speaker 2: after the first year even though they didn't have success, 2242 01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:56,120 Speaker 2: and then that thing went sideways. It's been a really 2243 01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:59,639 Speaker 2: rough run for the Giants since that last Super Bowl. 2244 01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:06,719 Speaker 2: All right, Next up and finally a huge Titanic AFC 2245 01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:08,160 Speaker 2: Sunday night football matchup. 2246 01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:10,360 Speaker 1: Big third down and seven play coming up. 2247 01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:11,479 Speaker 4: Williams in the game. 2248 01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:13,240 Speaker 1: He lines up to the left off Joe Burrow. 2249 01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:16,439 Speaker 16: Joe has the ball, Hunger pressure dumps it off, short caught. 2250 01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:19,559 Speaker 15: True Sample has a first down to the ten tonight 2251 01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:20,960 Speaker 15: the pie line. 2252 01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:25,040 Speaker 4: He's in touchdown beautiful Bengals. 2253 01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:29,880 Speaker 6: True Sample catching a short pass from Joe Burrow and 2254 01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:32,600 Speaker 6: doing the rest on a twenty. 2255 01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:33,280 Speaker 4: Two yard TD. 2256 01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:37,240 Speaker 2: I mean Drew Sample's just gonna make a miss how works? 2257 01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:40,120 Speaker 2: So what they say, that's what Drew Sample does. Dan 2258 01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:44,439 Speaker 2: Horde with the gall w see k Y. It was 2259 01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:49,200 Speaker 2: a showdown of AFC Titans. Only one could be victorious, 2260 01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:53,960 Speaker 2: but unfortunately for our producer Eric Roberts, it was the 2261 01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:57,280 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals who came out ahead with a twenty four 2262 01:43:57,320 --> 01:44:00,880 Speaker 2: to eighteen win. The Bengals, now after their slow start, 2263 01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:04,840 Speaker 2: have really solidified themselves in the AFC. There are now 2264 01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:07,120 Speaker 2: five and three, and man, that is going to be 2265 01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:10,080 Speaker 2: a great division race with the Baltimore Ravens. The Buffalo 2266 01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:11,160 Speaker 2: Bills meanwhile. 2267 01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:12,720 Speaker 1: Fall to five and four. How about that? 2268 01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:16,479 Speaker 2: Four losses now here as we reached the midway point, 2269 01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:18,120 Speaker 2: Now a lot of people would have predicted that. 2270 01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:23,120 Speaker 1: And Mark the Bengals, you know, got a little dicey 2271 01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:23,479 Speaker 1: at the end. 2272 01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:28,479 Speaker 2: They needed a conversion after a late Bills score and 2273 01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:31,240 Speaker 2: two point conversion to put this thing game away. But 2274 01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:34,080 Speaker 2: they were clearly again we're the better team, just like 2275 01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:35,599 Speaker 2: they were in January's playoffs. 2276 01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:38,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't feel like immense tension around what the 2277 01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:42,360 Speaker 5: end result would be. You know, they went into a 2278 01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:45,639 Speaker 5: few corners here, But what I love is when Buffalo 2279 01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:48,519 Speaker 5: comes storming back, they make it twenty four to eighteen, 2280 01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:52,760 Speaker 5: that Burrow and the Bengals turn around and Burrow hits 2281 01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:55,639 Speaker 5: that thirty two yard shot to Tyler Board, Tyler Boyd 2282 01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:59,360 Speaker 5: to essentially set the table for Joe Mixon to seal 2283 01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:02,280 Speaker 5: the game. It's like, I just trust this passing game, 2284 01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:04,840 Speaker 5: this passing offense right now to do it where it's 2285 01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:06,479 Speaker 5: like it's not so much a negative thing on the 2286 01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:10,720 Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills, but it's just like this version of Cincinnati 2287 01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:12,120 Speaker 5: and this version of Joe Burrow. 2288 01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:14,599 Speaker 7: They detonated the Niners a week ago. 2289 01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:17,160 Speaker 5: They're the one team that has shown the DNA to 2290 01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:19,759 Speaker 5: be able to beat both Kansas City and Buffalo. 2291 01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:22,000 Speaker 7: And here we go, we're sailing away. 2292 01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:24,880 Speaker 4: I mean, I love it's three now, we're locking things up. 2293 01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:26,320 Speaker 7: We are locking things up. 2294 01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:29,040 Speaker 5: We never and the West we didn't even discuss it 2295 01:45:29,120 --> 01:45:31,559 Speaker 5: along with the West Brothers because there was another sense. 2296 01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:32,400 Speaker 7: Of drama around it. 2297 01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:37,360 Speaker 1: We knew it no one more. I love that call. Mark. 2298 01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:41,240 Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought it up because so many teams 2299 01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:44,640 Speaker 2: would have opted to try to milk as much of 2300 01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:46,960 Speaker 2: the clock as possible, maybe run it twice and then 2301 01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:48,559 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it's third and six and you're 2302 01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:51,200 Speaker 2: on your own end, and then who knows what happens, 2303 01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:54,400 Speaker 2: but instead and Greg, as they so often do, Zach 2304 01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:58,080 Speaker 2: Taylor says, Joe, you are the man. We trust you, 2305 01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:01,599 Speaker 2: and if you can throw it thirty yard out here, hit. 2306 01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:04,400 Speaker 3: It, it's crazy because it's not like it was like 2307 01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:07,320 Speaker 3: a safe pass or a play action pass or anything. 2308 01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:08,760 Speaker 4: So it was just a straight drop back. 2309 01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:10,400 Speaker 3: And that's how we're gonna start our three and a 2310 01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:14,759 Speaker 3: half minute drill, four minute kill the clock. They haven't 2311 01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:17,360 Speaker 3: run the ball great for much of this season, and 2312 01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:19,680 Speaker 3: they didn't tonight, but they were able to in that 2313 01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:23,040 Speaker 3: last spot when they absolutely needed to get a first down. 2314 01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:25,360 Speaker 3: But to me, it's just like, what do you do 2315 01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:28,640 Speaker 3: with Joe Burrow seeing these two games back to back, 2316 01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:30,200 Speaker 3: Where last week he could argue is one of the 2317 01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:34,400 Speaker 3: best games any quarterbacks played all season. This wasn't quite 2318 01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:37,160 Speaker 3: there thirty one for forty four, three forty eight and 2319 01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:41,639 Speaker 3: two touchdowns because it wasn't as spectacular, but it wasn't 2320 01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:44,559 Speaker 3: that far off. Like the Bills had no answers because 2321 01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:46,280 Speaker 3: when they blitzed him, and there was the whole thing 2322 01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:48,720 Speaker 3: years ago. You can't blow you can't blitz Joe Burrow. 2323 01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:51,000 Speaker 3: You can't blitz Joe Burrows. He's gonna cook you up. 2324 01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:53,040 Speaker 3: And then the earlier this season when he couldn't move, 2325 01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:55,160 Speaker 3: you could blitz Joe Burrow. So what did they do 2326 01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:57,560 Speaker 3: earlier this game? They blitzed him quite a bit and 2327 01:46:57,640 --> 01:46:59,719 Speaker 3: he was always getting rid of the ball. I'm thinking 2328 01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:02,640 Speaker 3: of one where they dove right at his feet, he 2329 01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:05,120 Speaker 3: gets out of the play, makes the play. Second reaction 2330 01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:08,799 Speaker 3: to t Higgins there even the play where Drew Sample 2331 01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:11,920 Speaker 3: scores the touchdown. Like, but when they don't try to blitz, 2332 01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:14,200 Speaker 3: the Bills don't really have a pass rush. Von Miller's 2333 01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:17,760 Speaker 3: not right russo it wasn't happening. And when you leave 2334 01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:20,200 Speaker 3: him back there, he picks you apart. And that that 2335 01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:22,200 Speaker 3: was where he got The big place to played to 2336 01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:24,439 Speaker 3: Chase too, is when they don't rush more than four. 2337 01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:28,120 Speaker 3: So when he's like this, it's just like it's Tom Brady, 2338 01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:29,759 Speaker 3: like it's Montana, like it's whatever. 2339 01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:32,920 Speaker 2: He's just thrown dots all over the field. He's that special. 2340 01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:36,680 Speaker 2: And again we talked about it after the Niners wipe out. 2341 01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:41,439 Speaker 2: He is obviously healthy now, yet another scramble in this game, Greg, 2342 01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:43,960 Speaker 2: and I think you're right. And you know what they 2343 01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:46,719 Speaker 2: talked about in the offseason about some of his training, 2344 01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:50,080 Speaker 2: he's moving so well. This is a guy that had 2345 01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:53,400 Speaker 2: a fairly serious calf injury that blew out his knee 2346 01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:55,639 Speaker 2: in a gnarly way as a rookie, and yet he's 2347 01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:58,920 Speaker 2: never looked more spry. And when you put it all together, 2348 01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:01,800 Speaker 2: the level of co financ he plays with, the actual 2349 01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:05,200 Speaker 2: physical ability. I mean, we locked it up and I 2350 01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:09,759 Speaker 2: felt confident because I just think Burrow and that building 2351 01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:13,240 Speaker 2: in primetime is pretty much gonna beat anybody, including the Bills. 2352 01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:16,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there was you talk about his confidence 2353 01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:18,599 Speaker 5: because we've seen that. I think you saw it visibly 2354 01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:21,360 Speaker 5: on his face against the Niners, just this relief that 2355 01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:23,439 Speaker 5: his body was back. And there was a point tonight 2356 01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:26,519 Speaker 5: on a third and six and this is what triggered 2357 01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:29,639 Speaker 5: a field goal. They didn't score here, but Burrow had 2358 01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:33,240 Speaker 5: this incredible, like quick release shot to t Higgins that 2359 01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:36,960 Speaker 5: went down to the Buffalo seven first and goal. But 2360 01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:39,439 Speaker 5: that throw and that connection and the way he threw 2361 01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:41,439 Speaker 5: the ball, it's like, to your point, I think last 2362 01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:44,760 Speaker 5: week was the best quarterback performance we've seen all all year, 2363 01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:46,720 Speaker 5: but tonight there were elements. 2364 01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:46,960 Speaker 7: Of the same thing. 2365 01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:50,479 Speaker 5: Maybe it wasn't as complete a dominant performance. I was 2366 01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:52,760 Speaker 5: a little bit more up and down. But I can 2367 01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:55,600 Speaker 5: think of one underthrow deep to Chase. But other than that, 2368 01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:58,000 Speaker 5: like he is doing things on a weekly basis where 2369 01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:01,160 Speaker 5: it's like, this is the quarterback of the AFC right now. 2370 01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:03,560 Speaker 4: For me, Well, you're also getting Higgins involved. This was 2371 01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:04,320 Speaker 4: t Higgins' best. 2372 01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:07,400 Speaker 5: Mahomes is like what, well, no, I don't mean like 2373 01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:09,519 Speaker 5: career wise, but if you look at the two quarterbacks, 2374 01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:11,760 Speaker 5: Burrow right now in the last two weeks is like 2375 01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:13,400 Speaker 5: a sizzling watch. 2376 01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:16,840 Speaker 4: Sure you're saying who's playing the best at this very moment, this. 2377 01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:19,160 Speaker 2: Very moment, I don't have to take one year quarterback 2378 01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:21,800 Speaker 2: for one game next week. 2379 01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:23,400 Speaker 7: Josh Stubbs. 2380 01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:27,760 Speaker 3: Getting Higgins involved eight for one. He hasn't been doing 2381 01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:30,200 Speaker 3: anything this season. You got Tyler Boyd who who's finally 2382 01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:32,760 Speaker 3: making big plays again. And then there is something about 2383 01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:35,599 Speaker 3: this defense and I know they gave up the late touchdown, 2384 01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:39,280 Speaker 3: but there was like a stat Paul Daner at the 2385 01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:41,800 Speaker 3: Athletic had that you know, over the last two years 2386 01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:45,439 Speaker 3: under you know, Captain Lewo and Rumo. They were twenty 2387 01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:47,720 Speaker 3: one percent better than any other team in goal to 2388 01:49:47,760 --> 01:49:50,240 Speaker 3: go situations. And I'm going to extend that out into 2389 01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:52,000 Speaker 3: the red zone here where they get the fumble on 2390 01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:55,240 Speaker 3: Dalton Kincaid and the bills of another drive that comes 2391 01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:57,640 Speaker 3: up short. And there is something if you look at 2392 01:49:57,720 --> 01:50:00,000 Speaker 3: like this last month where they look like the Bengals defense. 2393 01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:03,000 Speaker 3: And to me, the Bengals defense is like not amazing 2394 01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:06,360 Speaker 3: between the twenties, but they just have a knack for 2395 01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:09,400 Speaker 3: locking it down and they coach it up well once 2396 01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:11,639 Speaker 3: it gets near the goal line and limiting points. 2397 01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:14,599 Speaker 7: And that fumble doesn't happen without Jermaine Pratt punching. 2398 01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:16,400 Speaker 4: He's always one of those guys. 2399 01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:19,439 Speaker 1: Yep. And I'll use some Paul Daaner reporting as well. 2400 01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:22,120 Speaker 2: It does great work for the athletic and this is 2401 01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:26,240 Speaker 2: a testament to Captain lou of course, Joe Burrow, but 2402 01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:30,320 Speaker 2: Greg and our ongoing discourse around Zach Taylor. This is 2403 01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:32,719 Speaker 2: all under Zach Taylor's watch that they are the best 2404 01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:37,200 Speaker 2: team in football over the past three years when it 2405 01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:40,240 Speaker 2: comes to putting games away when they score first. They 2406 01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:42,360 Speaker 2: are now after tonight twenty one and two in the 2407 01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:45,439 Speaker 2: last three years, and they have that ability again, like 2408 01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:46,880 Speaker 2: we were talking about, it's kind of a little bit 2409 01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:49,640 Speaker 2: of the theme of the show today, the teams that 2410 01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:52,519 Speaker 2: know how to take care of business even when they're 2411 01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:54,559 Speaker 2: not playing at their best and just kind of grind 2412 01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:57,759 Speaker 2: out wins. Those three teams are the Bengals, the Eagles, 2413 01:50:57,840 --> 01:51:00,960 Speaker 2: the Chiefs. Those are one, two, three and in this metric, 2414 01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:05,120 Speaker 2: and like they're just in a very good place right now. 2415 01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:07,640 Speaker 2: And it's funny because earlier we were talking about the 2416 01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:10,080 Speaker 2: Ravens and who's better than the Ravens right now? 2417 01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:11,439 Speaker 1: And you can make the case nobody. 2418 01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:14,880 Speaker 2: The fact that they're in the same division and only 2419 01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:16,639 Speaker 2: one team's gonna be able to come out of there 2420 01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:21,200 Speaker 2: with the home game and potentially a bye. That is 2421 01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:23,960 Speaker 2: the best division race in football as we look at 2422 01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:24,879 Speaker 2: to the second well. 2423 01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:26,840 Speaker 3: All four of the teams in the division would be 2424 01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:28,439 Speaker 3: in the playoffs as of this moment. 2425 01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:31,559 Speaker 2: But I don't know, maybe you disagree, but I think 2426 01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:34,559 Speaker 2: we have a no disrespect to the Steelers and Browns, 2427 01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:38,080 Speaker 2: but there's a very different buy between Bengals Ravens to 2428 01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:39,800 Speaker 2: me than the other two teams. 2429 01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:43,120 Speaker 5: Well, I think like Cincinnati, like everything that we thought 2430 01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:44,920 Speaker 5: about them changed in the last couple of weeks. And 2431 01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:48,120 Speaker 5: like Cleveland's got an excellent defense, I think their offense 2432 01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:50,200 Speaker 5: is very up and down. The Steelers obviously are an 2433 01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:54,120 Speaker 5: up and down team like Yes Bengal or Bengals Ravens 2434 01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:56,479 Speaker 5: is and they play in a couple of weeks is 2435 01:51:56,680 --> 01:51:59,880 Speaker 5: essentially like this sort of ultra clash waiting to happen. 2436 01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:03,360 Speaker 3: And this is a huge test of the Seohn McDermott 2437 01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:07,800 Speaker 3: era and defense. Right now, there's nothing about their defense 2438 01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:10,600 Speaker 3: that's special. And they lose to El Bernard early in 2439 01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:14,360 Speaker 3: this game. We know they've lost Milano and Dayquon Jones 2440 01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:16,679 Speaker 3: and Tredavious Way and they're not getting those guys back. 2441 01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:22,320 Speaker 3: It's a long season right now. They're really ordinary, especially 2442 01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:26,519 Speaker 3: on defense. On offense, you know they're good, they're not 2443 01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:29,400 Speaker 3: quite good enough, and they're certainly not consistent running the 2444 01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:31,560 Speaker 3: ball enough to make up for it. But they just 2445 01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:34,920 Speaker 3: don't make sense if they're an ordinary defense. But they 2446 01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:37,559 Speaker 3: are the Bills. They do have Josh Allen, the DNA's 2447 01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:41,560 Speaker 3: all in there, and there's a million teams over the 2448 01:52:41,640 --> 01:52:44,360 Speaker 3: last ten years in NFL history that were kind of 2449 01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:47,479 Speaker 3: blah after nine weeks, and so I think they have 2450 01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:49,599 Speaker 3: a chance to be a different team by the time 2451 01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:51,519 Speaker 3: they get to the playoffs, but they're not that team 2452 01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:53,599 Speaker 3: right now and they can't take on too many l's. 2453 01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:57,040 Speaker 2: Here's another kind of ongoing conversation we had going into 2454 01:52:57,080 --> 01:53:00,680 Speaker 2: the season, that the feeling that this is such an 2455 01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:04,280 Speaker 2: important season for the Bills, not because they don't have 2456 01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:06,360 Speaker 2: another chance to win the Super Bowl. They have Josh Allen, 2457 01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:11,360 Speaker 2: but like this core, this group of Bills, like I 2458 01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:15,080 Speaker 2: sense again that this team is just I don't know, 2459 01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:18,960 Speaker 2: Eric behind the glass, you are a hardcore Bills fan, Like, 2460 01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:21,040 Speaker 2: do you get a do you have a level of 2461 01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:23,960 Speaker 2: confidence at this point when they face these fellow titans 2462 01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:25,600 Speaker 2: of the league that I feel like a couple in 2463 01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:27,519 Speaker 2: the last couple of years, you probably always felt pretty 2464 01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:28,800 Speaker 2: good going into a game like this. 2465 01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:31,639 Speaker 1: Have you been shaking the confidence? Why at this point 2466 01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:33,360 Speaker 1: now this season is different. I don't know. 2467 01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:36,360 Speaker 19: There's there's something missing and every points like there's a 2468 01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:38,680 Speaker 19: second piece missing on the offense, and we were kind 2469 01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:41,000 Speaker 19: of hoping that was Kincaid and he's kind of come 2470 01:53:41,080 --> 01:53:42,920 Speaker 19: around the last two weeks, specially with Knoxby, you know, 2471 01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:45,360 Speaker 19: being out with the wrist injury. He's a good, tough, 2472 01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:47,920 Speaker 19: tough fumble. What are you gonna do? That's that's a 2473 01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:49,960 Speaker 19: big that's a big play by the Bengals defense. But no, 2474 01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:53,280 Speaker 19: there's it's a hard watch. Like they always sneak in 2475 01:53:53,360 --> 01:53:55,280 Speaker 19: this last little touchdown to make it kind of close 2476 01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:56,840 Speaker 19: at the end. That kind of makes the box scores 2477 01:53:56,840 --> 01:53:59,360 Speaker 19: a little better. They did against Jaguars. They came out 2478 01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:01,559 Speaker 19: on the right side of the Giants game. This one again, 2479 01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:03,519 Speaker 19: Josh Allen kind of went down. They went for two, 2480 01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:05,280 Speaker 19: made it made it look better on the box score. 2481 01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:08,280 Speaker 19: Where's something is not there to watch? 2482 01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:09,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, And I like, I think kin Kaid is a 2483 01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:10,559 Speaker 7: great development. 2484 01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:12,760 Speaker 5: And it was you know, that was the hope and 2485 01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:15,400 Speaker 5: even in the summer, but it almost tonight came in 2486 01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:18,400 Speaker 5: replace of like until the end, Stephan Diggs had you know, 2487 01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:22,160 Speaker 5: a massive touchdown and two point conversion, but largely taken 2488 01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:26,360 Speaker 5: away gave Davis taken away like you're leaning on different people, 2489 01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:28,280 Speaker 5: but they're not special characters. 2490 01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:29,920 Speaker 7: And so I look at the Kincaid's night and be like, 2491 01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:30,560 Speaker 7: I like that. 2492 01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:33,560 Speaker 5: But it's like the Bills can't work themselves out of 2493 01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:36,800 Speaker 5: a corner with so many weapon rich layers like the 2494 01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:37,640 Speaker 5: Bengals cant for. 2495 01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:40,800 Speaker 19: As much like you know, crap that Josh Allen got 2496 01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:44,280 Speaker 19: for doing the hero ball stuff, even that's not really 2497 01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:47,080 Speaker 19: there like that that like he had a weird like 2498 01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:49,120 Speaker 19: interception that he just kind of missed the throw. 2499 01:54:49,240 --> 01:54:51,480 Speaker 4: Today he overthrew some like something. 2500 01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:53,600 Speaker 1: Made some great throws too, and that's why there's reason 2501 01:54:53,680 --> 01:54:53,960 Speaker 1: for home. 2502 01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:56,000 Speaker 19: But yeah, but those things there at the back, yeah, 2503 01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:57,280 Speaker 19: I mean, yeah, yeah, you know what he can be, 2504 01:54:57,360 --> 01:54:59,280 Speaker 19: but something is something is missing. I don't know if 2505 01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:01,000 Speaker 19: it's you know, doors see in the play calling, but 2506 01:55:01,160 --> 01:55:01,440 Speaker 19: that's the. 2507 01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:04,760 Speaker 1: Healthy at least. Yeah, you know, the shoulder was concerned going. 2508 01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:07,120 Speaker 3: You don't want him getting forty four of your sixty 2509 01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:10,240 Speaker 3: eight rushing yards. We are kind of back to like 2510 01:55:10,600 --> 01:55:13,600 Speaker 3: we need Josh Allen to run. And I and one 2511 01:55:13,640 --> 01:55:15,920 Speaker 3: thing I like the schedule makers. You know, all these 2512 01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:18,520 Speaker 3: teams seem to be playing each other down the stretch. 2513 01:55:18,560 --> 01:55:21,000 Speaker 3: The Bills have a couple easy games, but then they 2514 01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:24,720 Speaker 3: have an at Philly, they got they got another and 2515 01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:26,680 Speaker 3: at Kansas City coming up. So all these teams are 2516 01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:27,600 Speaker 3: playing each other coming up. 2517 01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:28,200 Speaker 1: The Bills being in. 2518 01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:30,879 Speaker 2: Third place at the midway point was not what we predicted, 2519 01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:33,960 Speaker 2: and the Jets Chargers playing Monday night. 2520 01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:36,040 Speaker 1: The Jets can find a way in that game. 2521 01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:38,440 Speaker 2: You got the Dolphins who took a loss at six 2522 01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:40,760 Speaker 2: and three, The Jets can be five and three, Bills 2523 01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:45,320 Speaker 2: five and four. Interesting division going down the stretch. Interesting, 2524 01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:51,640 Speaker 2: anything else good? Sunday now fun. It's like almost like 2525 01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:55,160 Speaker 2: the it is is that the Germany game and even 2526 01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:58,440 Speaker 2: the Sunday night game. Maybe you wanted a little bit 2527 01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:00,560 Speaker 2: more about everything in the middle that you weren't expecting 2528 01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:02,520 Speaker 2: as much from the middle of the sandwich. Very nice 2529 01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:06,360 Speaker 2: word and the bread was fine, fine, but it really 2530 01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:08,760 Speaker 2: was No, it should be the meat. It would be 2531 01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:13,000 Speaker 2: those we've now finished eating the sandwich. You've lost the sandwich, and. 2532 01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:17,520 Speaker 4: Yeah it was Eagles Cowboys not delivered. 2533 01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:20,240 Speaker 1: That was the meat. That was the meat. Okay, I 2534 01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:22,760 Speaker 1: think we got this kind of gross, But why do 2535 01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:23,600 Speaker 1: you back in the meat? 2536 01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:25,000 Speaker 7: No, it's not I'm not saying that. 2537 01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:28,080 Speaker 2: Just like everyone Sessler housed that double cheeseburger. We didn't 2538 01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:29,520 Speaker 2: even notice it until he was halfway through it. 2539 01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:32,760 Speaker 4: Tom, Tom, Just like the inards were. 2540 01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:37,880 Speaker 2: I don't make those sounds like make it bloody, bloody 2541 01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:42,160 Speaker 2: as hell when the waiters like, yes, sir, it's not 2542 01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:42,480 Speaker 2: to go. 2543 01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:47,040 Speaker 1: Oh okay, the man after my own heart. 2544 01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:49,920 Speaker 3: You sound like someone that woke up in Vegas. It's 2545 01:56:49,960 --> 01:56:51,160 Speaker 3: time to fifteen hours. 2546 01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:53,600 Speaker 1: Eric, please hit the music. We gotta go. 2547 01:56:57,000 --> 01:57:00,920 Speaker 2: All right, good stuff, Thank you everybody for sitting. Thank 2548 01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:03,160 Speaker 2: you Eric and Funk behind the glass. 2549 01:57:04,200 --> 01:57:05,760 Speaker 1: Some one to night. Heed the call.