WEBVTT - The Vaccine Debate 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:07.440 Wind down with Janet and her radio podcast. Okay, so 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:13.640 we know that obviously what we're talking about today UM 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:16.360 can be considered a controversial topic and there's a lot 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:22.040 of misinformation, and our intention is not to spread misinformation. UM. 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:24.200 We just want to allow our guests that we have 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:29.360 on today to give their opinions and have a discussion. UM. 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:31.800 That being said, we do not pretend to be doctors 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:35.080 or scientists or give medical advice. We just wanted to 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:38.440 have this conversation. But we encourage y'all to do your research, 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:41.599 consult with your health care professional. UM. We know that 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:45.560 there are many opinions, and we will continue the conversation 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:50.400 UM and educate ourselves UM, within our marriage and our 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:54.040 UM and you know, with with our kids. UM. You know, 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:56.720 we obviously have Robert Kenney Jr. Joining us today on 0:00:56.760 --> 0:01:01.520 the show, and we also have a UM doctor, Dr. 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:06.120 A Malkin, UM who's going to just be on the 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.640 other side of things because we want there to there's always, 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:10.840 you know, two sides, and we believe that both voices 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.400 deserve to be heard. Yeah. I think it's just our 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:19.280 job as citizens and as people right on any kind 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:22.600 of topic that can be passionate and controversial is to 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:26.200 just gather information and that's all we're doing on this episode. 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:29.400 We just want to give different sides of the coin, 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:32.360 allow people to make up their own minds, and you know, 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:38.600 to not be um mean about it or post negative comments. 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.959 It's just again, UM, there's so many things out there 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:44.600 right now, lots of misinformation. So we just we got 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.920 the two best that we know to kind of debunk 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:51.960 certain things, um and express their thoughts and their feelings. 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:54.920 And don't worry, we'll be back to our regular scheduled 0:01:54.920 --> 0:02:00.160 programming of Mike and Jana fighting next week. So until then, UM, 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.040 let's get on with the show. And just a disclaimer 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.200 because we're going there. The views and opinions express are 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:07.640 solely of the individuals participating in the podcast and do 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.320 not represent the opinions of I Heart Media or its employees. 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.679 This podcast should not be used as medical advice or 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:16.240 as imparting any healthcare recommendations at all. Individuals are advised 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:19.040 to seek independent medical counseling, advice, intoit therapy from a 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.800 competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:27.240 choices regarding vaccinations, mental health issues, health inquiry, or matter, 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:30.120 including matters discussed on this podcast. Guests and listeners should 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.920 not rely on matters discussing the podcast, and shall not 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.400 act or refrain from acting based on information contained the 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:38.920 podcast without first seeking independent medical advice. And that goes 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:40.560 as well for all the advice we give you in 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:42.800 our marriage, because the Lord knows we don't know what 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:47.120 we're doing, but we're just going on. We don't know 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:50.960 what we don't know. So take everything you're hear here 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:53.760 for what it is. You know, I was even talking 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:57.239 to my mother earlier. Why do you say it like that? 0:02:57.880 --> 0:02:59.880 I hope that. I hope our kids never say my 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.880 mother earlier, my mommy, you my mommy. I do I 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:07.360 want you to say, I'm talking to mommy earlier, mommy earlier, 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:10.240 And I was telling her who we are having on today? 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.519 And it's just you know, even for I think any 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:17.800 generation is like like we're now legit, like you guys 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:24.320 are actually this is actually your job. Okay, Um, we 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:30.320 have a Kennedy on today, yes, um, very excited and 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:33.280 um I also have two of my high school girlfriends 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:38.360 joining us, Chelsea and Andrea say hello, hello, thanks for 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:42.920 having us. Of course, so we um we did an 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:47.640 episode a few weeks ago that involved UM. We talked 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:51.520 to Dr Oz and just a few questions, and I 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.360 gotta say I had Andrea looked through some of the comments, 0:03:54.360 --> 0:04:01.440 but some of the comments on the podcast were pretty rough. Really. Yeah. 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.720 They said that, you know, our job is like that 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:06.160 we were kind of like misinforming. And I think the 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:09.240 issue is we were to talk about a lot of things, right, 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:11.680 but we also want to have different sides of the story, 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:13.640 just like you know how we have different therapists come 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:16.920 on in different opinions, and you know, Dr Oz was 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.080 four vaccinations, and you know, you have the other side 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.200 saying that it's dangerous for us to even talk about 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:25.560 the other side. And you know, I feel like that's 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.960 where we're doing a disservice too, because I think both 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:32.160 sides need to be heard. And I was reading some 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.320 of my comments and two of my high school girlfriends 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:39.960 UM had tagged uh Robert Kennedy Jr. In one of 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:42.640 my posts and said that we should get him on 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:46.120 the podcast to talk about the opposite side of vaccinations. 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:51.840 And I thought it was obviously in an interesting idea, UM, 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:55.320 because there is such a some information for one side. 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.880 And then the other UM. So that's how Andrea and 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:01.039 Chelsea are now on this podcast with us UM and 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:04.159 y'all have a lot of information on on Mr Kennedy. 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:07.960 Don't you sure this is the same come true to 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.919 be able to speak with him. He's one of the 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:15.640 most knowledgeable people out there on vaccine safety and legislator, 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:20.680 and he's worked to fight against huge major companies just 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.560 all in the name of children's rights, which is fantastic. 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:25.800 I commend you guys for bringing this up. A lot 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.320 of people won't touch this topic, and I do think 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.920 it's so important to tell both sides of the story right, 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:34.880 to give people a chance, give them the resources, give 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:36.680 them the information, give them a chance to make the 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.280 decision that's best for their family that they believe. And 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:41.680 so you know, you're never going to make everyone happy. 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:43.640 I get that, but I really applied you guys for 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:47.360 doing that. So why do you guys think subjects as 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:52.440 this where people their beliefs. It almost seems like it's 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.279 either right or wrong. Right, Like it's almost like Republican 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:59.279 first Democrat. Why is this topic, in y'all's opinions, such 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:01.800 a topic that it's like when someone believes the other 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:04.839 majority of people, it seems like, are like, well, that's 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:09.359 clearly wrong. Why would you believe that? H In my opinion, 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:13.320 I think it's because we're going to our doctors, right, 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.360 And it's really our doctors that are telling us this 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.080 is what we need to do. Your kind of mandated 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.479 to do these shots for your kids to go to school. 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.320 And so I think we're just trusting the people that 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:28.400 are advising our health for our children. And also in 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.560 media comes out and gives you all the ads and 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:36.360 everything that's pushing that they're safe. So I think it's 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:40.280 really hard to unlearn something that you've been indoctrinating with 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.919 really your whole life. If you've grown up knowing I 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:45.280 have to get my vaccines, these are gonna make me healthy, 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.000 this is gonna make me safe. I think it's really hard, 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.840 which is why we commend you so much for actually 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:54.320 been looking into this, because it's very eye opening once 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:57.560 you start reading about it, and it's hard. It's really 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:02.320 hard to wrap your mind around something that you believed 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:04.400 your whole life is safe to find out that it 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:08.279 might not be. And and here's here's what I believe. 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:13.480 I believe that the people that are in the positions 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.800 that Chelsea and I aron where they've really challenged vaccines 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:19.080 and they've done the research, they feel strongly about it 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:22.000 because we feel like the other side hasn't done that research, 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:26.360 because honestly, I don't know many people that can do 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.400 truly do that research, read the studies, find the wholes, 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:35.120 find the lies, and still pour it vaccinated so strongly 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.480 to your point, might like with the emotion and with 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:41.440 so much conviction, like I am just it's to me 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.560 it was very compelling, and I mean Chelsea and I 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:48.560 were pretty logical, pretty rational, well educated people. Like It's 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.200 not like I think it just surprises people. They think 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:55.320 that people who you know, challenge vaccinations aren't in their circles, 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:57.440 you know, they think that there's these people they don't know, 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:59.800 who are these crazy people like that are just you know, 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.160 they're children are getting sick all the time, infecting others, 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:04.360 And it's like, I think actually some of the friends 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:07.120 in our circles were shocked to learn that we were 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:10.000 quote those people, right, we were the people that are 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:13.800 actually challenging vaccines and haven't necessarily followed the full schedule 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:17.520 with our children. And I think two people are very 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:21.560 surprised to find out how healthy unvaccinated children are. And 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.720 I think it's hard for people to say, like, what 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.240 I did everything right? I did everything my doctor said, 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.480 why is my child always sick? But you're the one 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:31.360 who's supposed to have the sick child because you're not 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.440 doing it. So I think it's just a lot of 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:38.160 understanding and researching, but people need to change their entire 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:41.280 way of thinking. And my lunch side, it's like, once 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:45.080 I started really researching and seeing the hard facts, it's like, 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:48.640 this is this is just almost a crime against humanity. 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:52.160 What's going on? The last thing is just it's also 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:54.960 people are super defensive. It's their children, and nobody want 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:59.680 to maybe they made a decision for their children that 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.959 is maybe going to post problems for them later in life, 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.840 or that they had if they didn't have like a 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.920 severe bad reaction immediately, like maybe it's gonna So of 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.120 course everybody's defensive about that. We're all trying to make 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.400 the best issuerson for our children. You know, right, what 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:17.760 inspired both of you too to start going down this 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:20.520 this direction? Right? What was the one thing that kind 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.760 of sparked it for you to be like, wait a second, 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:26.960 I don't know about this. Yeah I I can, Yeah, 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:30.200 I can start so. Um. So, when I had my daughter, 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.760 she's three now, we were living in California, and California 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.800 at the time was a state that only allowed medical exemptions, 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:39.199 meaning you could only be exempt from certain vaccines if 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.559 you had a medical reason and a note from your 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:45.160 doctor stating that. So whereas other states will allow like 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.160 personal belief exemptions and religious exemptions, so you can claim 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.240 that as a reason for which you're not vaccinating or 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.960 fully vaccinating your child. So at the time, you know, 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:55.880 even when I was pregnant, I started looking into it 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.400 because I'm a type of person that if there's any 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:00.920 debate on a topic, I want to know both sides, 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:02.360 I want to do my research and I want to 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:05.120 come to my own conclusion. I started looking into it, 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.080 and to be honest, I didn't found I didn't find 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.280 all the research that I ended up finding a couple 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:12.640 of years later or a year later, but I found 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.280 some and it was enough to to basically direct me 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.240 to a pediatrician or lead me to a pediatrician that 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:21.280 allowed a staggered schedule or like a delayed schedule. So 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.480 for the first year my daughter's life. We lived in 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:27.480 California and we were vaccinating on a very delayed schedule. 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.280 Then when we moved back to Michigan, a state that 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:34.400 allowed all exemptions personal, religious, and medical, when I tried 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.720 to find a pediatrician, the first question they all asked 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:41.440 me was are you fully vaccinating? And I was like, well, no, 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.160 but you know, and so then it really prompted me 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:48.000 to dig in further. And what I found then was like, 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:51.200 just to me, I was like, I was astounded. I mean, 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.320 I would read books and my heart would be racing 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:56.360 because then I would look at certain things that had 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:59.640 happened with my daughter, and they weren't major reactions, thankfully, 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:01.600 but there were little things along the way that I 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:03.440 was like, wow, was that because of the vaccines we 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.040 gave her. So what I did at that point was, 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:08.520 I mean, I really I dove in. I found Children's 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.000 Health Defense, I found Robert Kennedy. I watched his videos, 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.960 and I mean I was just shocked, and like, I 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:15.400 know that Robert will hit on a couple of the 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:17.880 high points, but the two that really I guess stuck 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:21.280 with me that I want to call out is the metals, 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:23.199 like the ingredients and there's a lot of ingredients that 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:26.320 there are that I have challenges with, but one is aluminum. 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:28.880 It's a known neurotoxin. And one example that I feel 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.280 like is so poignant because this information comes from the 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:34.959 CDC website, it comes from the FDA. One of the 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.960 popular versions of the heppy shot that's given to infants 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:43.040 less than twenty four hours old, has point to milligrams 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:46.320 of aluminum minute if you look at per If you 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:50.079 look at the FDA website, it says the safe amount 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.719 that's allowed in drinking water of aluminum is point to 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:58.080 milligrams per leader. Yet per milli leader of the vaccine, 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:02.800 there's point five milligrams of aluminum. So, like, how can 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.439 you trust the fact that this information you're getting from 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.839 the FDA directly negates what's happening with the CDC and 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.240 the information that's in the vaccine they want you to 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.679 give your child at twenty four hours old. That blew 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.760 my mind. Then the other one that I'm sure Robert 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:20.120 Robert will touch on is the fact that in the 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.920 law was passed that basically took all liability away from 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:26.160 vaccine manufacturers because they went to the government and said 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:30.280 vaccines are unavoidably unsafe, and there's too much liability for 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.760 us in this business. You need to protect us and 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:38.959 at that point free from all liability. So imagine you 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.720 have a car seat for your child. If you knew 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:45.440 that that sheet manufacturer was exempt from liability, would you 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.240 use that car seat for your child? That's that's the 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:54.920 analogy we use. So it is because it just like 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:59.560 any product anything, And if you knew that a bunch 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:03.840 of chill like then that we are using for because 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:09.360 climbing out of this crib. I just the one disclaimer 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.600 I want to make though, is like this is truly 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:13.719 this is a very personal choice. And I know that 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:17.280 people argue it affects others and it may, but we 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.440 all do things that affect each other every day. But 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:21.400 I just think this is a very personal decision. And 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.760 I think everybody needs to research on their own. As 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:26.200 you guys said, they need to come down to the 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:30.000 best choice for their family, and they also need to 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.120 research the risk on the disease and and and determine 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.520 is the risk of the disease going out weigh the 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:37.679 risk of the vaccine. Like, I think that's such an 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.400 important point because people you can't just go into this 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.240 blindly and be like, yeah, vaccines are unsafe. You have 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.440 to understand what you're up against and you have to 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.440 make your own decision. And I think that's why it's 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:49.960 not about being we we hate the term anti BAXX, 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:52.319 and thank you for not using it, because it's really 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.760 just about understanding that it's not one size fits all. 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.680 We want more transparency, we want more safety, and you 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.240 hear Robert advocate for at as well. We want we 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:03.800 want the exemptions, don't take away the exemptions, and a 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:05.840 lot of states are at risk for that. So I 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:07.840 just want to make that disclaimer that it's really just 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:11.840 about information, about doing your research and making the decision 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.200 that's best for your family, and we're not judging anybody 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.559 for what they do. We just want people to understand 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:21.760 that there is a lot of abalidity to this side. Chelsea, 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:25.600 what about you? Where was the spark for you? So 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.840 the spark for me was really, um, you know, when 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:31.120 I first started, when I was pregnant with my first child, 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.000 I just I had no idea about vaccines and I 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.320 just thought it was something you do, it's safe whatever. Um, 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.720 what really first piqued my interest was my our pediatrician, 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:44.320 who is very pro vaccine, told us not to do 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:48.440 the happy shot at birth. And that was really surprising 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.640 because then I started researching, like, well, okay, well what 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.120 about everything else? And he basically had said, yeah, I 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.840 do everything else, you know this and that, but just 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:59.320 don't do happy at birth. It's not necessary, it's unsafe. 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:01.720 And and so from there I went home and I 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:05.760 started reading more books and researching it more. Um, and 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:07.880 then I saw that on the CDC schedule that there 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.080 were four shots that they wanted to give. I think 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.160 it's what a two months old or eight weeks old, 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:16.000 and I was like, oh my gosh, four shots. That 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:19.920 that's crazy. Um. I don't even like to get shots, 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:23.360 much less to give my infant four shots all at once. 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:29.200 That it seemed strange to me and somewhat cruel that 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:33.160 we'd have to have their infant bodies, whose their immune 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:36.640 systems aren't completely developed, to fight off four viruses or 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.520 diseases all at once, when in a natural environment that 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:43.480 would really never happen. So that really started to pique 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:46.400 my interest. And then really just as a mom, initially 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.240 I'm like, this is just kind of cool. I don't 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.440 want to give my baby four shots all at once. 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.840 So initially it was really just I just wanted to 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.240 do one at a time and then go from there, 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:59.560 so doing one at a time. My daughter had an 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:03.320 initial adverse reaction to detail the first shot that she had, 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:05.880 and that was around eight months old, and then I 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:07.920 waited almost two years or like a year and a 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:11.960 half to give her her second shot of DETAP and 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.000 she was around two years old at that time, and 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.000 she had a really bad reaction to it at that time. 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:21.320 And since that first point of the first reaction around 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:24.800 her being just under a year, I started doing even 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.360 more research and more research. But again I was still 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:29.440 on the train of but I'm supposed to do this, 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.920 but my doctor says I should, and you know, he 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:33.840 even said, like, let's hold off on the detail for 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.800 a while and just do these other ones. So then 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:38.440 at that point I was kind of picking and choosing 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:40.640 which one is based on the research I did, like, 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:47.800 you know, does the disease outweigh the vaccine? And from there, um, 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:49.800 I think I was just really shocked on all of it, 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:51.560 and that just kind of piqued my interest in the night. 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:54.560 For the last three years, I've really been spending the 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:59.240 majority of my time researching things on vaccine safety and 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:03.320 really following UM Robert Kennedy Jr. In his pH d 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:06.840 and everything that they've been doing to advocate for this, 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.800 And I've really just had a passion for it because 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.040 I do see some of the other children suffering from 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:17.159 adverse reactions that people I don't think initially correlate with 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.840 vaccines UM. You know. So that's kind of where I've 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:25.560 started coming from. Well, speaking of Robert H. F. Kennedy Jr. 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:27.800 We have him in the waiting room, so should we 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:43.600 bring him on? Let's bring him in? Hey everybody, Hey, hey, 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:47.639 Mr Kennedy, how are you doing, sir? I'm great good. 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:49.879 I'm gonna go ahead and intro you, intro you, and 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:55.920 then we're gonna get going. You look beautiful. Really, it's 0:17:55.920 --> 0:18:02.800 all make up, all right. So we have a legend 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:06.280 in in in our on our show today and someone 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:08.600 who doesn't need much of an introduction, but we have 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:12.760 Mr Robert Kennedy Jr. On the show. Welcome him to wind. 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.880 Mr Kennedy, thank you so much for coming on our show. 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.719 We really appreciate it. We're we're honored, honored and humbled 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.080 that you're here with us, especially to talk about something 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:26.280 that's uh, I think on a lot of people's minds 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.280 these days, especially with young ones for sure. And I 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:30.440 didn't think you were going to DM me back. My 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:32.640 two girlfriends and I went to high school with UM 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:36.159 have followed you from the beginning, and UM you know 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:38.960 they love everything that you do with the Children's Health 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.720 Defense Organization and you know they were the ones that 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:45.040 said try and get him on your podcast. And so 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:48.400 that's when I was like, I texted Chelsea, the beautiful 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:51.639 one in pink, and I said, should I ask him 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:54.359 a I d MM? Like, what do I do? Should 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:59.960 I ask him out? You can please? You a perfect 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:05.040 time because I'm so technologically an app that I never 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:11.160 looked at my d ms before. It just happened. That 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.840 guy who was staying with man said, you know there's 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:16.000 a lot of people I mean, I was like, what 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:23.080 does that mean perfect timing? Well, I'm gonna go ahead 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:24.960 and jump in here with you, Mr Kennedy, because I 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:27.440 know your time is valuable. And you know, we had 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:30.000 a doctor oz on our show a couple of weeks 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:31.919 ago and we got onto the topic. Janna and I 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:33.840 have two young little ones. We have a five and 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:35.800 two year old, and we got on the topic of 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:39.119 vaccines and he was very pro vaccine and his right 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:42.040 in his opinion and his expertise is great. And but 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:44.040 we we like to give our listeners, you know, both 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:45.840 sides of the coin, because we just want people to 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:47.919 have all the information that they can and who have 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:49.879 who better to talk about the other side of it 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:52.480 than you? And I know Janna and I have gone 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:55.439 back and forth a lot recently about this, and you know, 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.360 we're of those minds as we want to trust our doctors, 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:02.000 the people who were ed ucated and given degrees professionally 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:05.879 for for information that they're giving us. And at what point, like, 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:09.560 are we supposed to start questioning our doctors And we 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:13.119 want to believe these people, but you know, it's scary 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.840 to think that we have to start questioning it. I mean, 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:21.640 let me go back a little. Okay, Doctors are not scientists. 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:25.400 They're not taught you know, they're not taught science. They're 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:28.520 brilliant people and they go to medical school and the 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:34.160 medical schools are largely funded by pharmaceutical companies, and they're 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:37.439 taught how to recognize as the is and they're um 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:42.119 and they memorize huge amounts of information. But those aren't 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:45.879 science schools. People who are scientists have an entirely different 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:49.639 set of skills, which is how to read a study critically. 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:54.880 A lot of it is statistical and and um, my 0:20:55.160 --> 0:21:01.760 actual my career has been in legation and and our 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:05.439 metal itches. I brought hundreds and hundreds of cases. I 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:09.280 brought the case that was on now the subject of 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:12.880 the film of the Mark Buffalo filta dark Quarters, which 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:16.199 whether it was the DuPont case, I brought the you know, 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:19.440 I was on the trial team in the Santo case. 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:24.320 But hundreds and hundreds of cases, and in every one 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:29.600 of those cases cecific. And so you have experts on 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:33.240 one side that says, you know, roundup is who's a 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:38.240 who swear to you very convincingly the roundup is safe 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:41.639 and at it quite warm cause Monta Hodgkins and fauna. 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:44.240 And then we have our experts that come on and say, 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:49.440 wait a second. The studies that you were relying on, 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:53.880 our studies that were done by industry, and here are 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:56.080 the flaws that they have in them, and they are 0:21:56.119 --> 0:22:01.080 a deliberate deception. They're deliberate fraud. Oh, of a battleground 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:05.640 of the experts, and those skills to read those studies 0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:10.680 critically are seldom taught medical school. I've talked to many 0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:14.440 many doctors and said to them, why do you think that, 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:18.760 including doctor Oz, it's my friend, and I've said to him, 0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:21.600