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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody.

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Speaker 2: Second Hour Play in Bud kicks off right now, and

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Speaker 2: we're joined by Matt Van Epps and Speaker of the

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Speaker 2: House Mike Johnson.

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Speaker 1: We got a two for one special here today. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much, gentlemen for making the time for us.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you both.

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, great to be with you. This is Mike

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Speaker 3: and Matt Van Epps is with me. We are traveling

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Speaker 3: through Tennessee. He's got a big special election.

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Speaker 4: Tomorrow, as you'll know, and we're going to win this

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Speaker 4: for the country.

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Speaker 1: We absolutely have to. Mister Speaker, tell us what you're seeing,

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Speaker 1: what you're hearing. How the early turnout is looking well.

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Speaker 3: I won't speak for Matt here, but I'll tell you

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Speaker 3: it looks great to me. I landed here early this

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Speaker 3: morning and we are going to do a dozen events today.

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Speaker 3: We started with a big rally with hundreds of people.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of enthusiasm. This is deep red country.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Tennessee is a rich state.

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Speaker 4: He's in a red district.

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Speaker 3: It takes in parts of Nashville and then fourteen counties overall.

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Speaker 3: We're going to make our way through all of that today.

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Speaker 3: People are excited. They know.

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Speaker 5: We're talking with Speaker of the House Mike Johnson. They

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Speaker 5: are right now in a car touring the district. Matt

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Speaker 5: Van Epps Tennessee seventh Congressional District and Speaker Mike Johnson

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Speaker 5: with us right now, and then we will talk with

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Speaker 5: Matt Van Epps there together for people out there nationwide.

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Speaker 5: I know President Trump called in this morning. I believe

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Speaker 5: he's gonna call in later this evening as well.

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Speaker 1: I will be voting.

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Speaker 5: This is my district in the Nashville area, so we

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Speaker 5: will be there. Why does this race matter so much?

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Speaker 5: I think we have the speaker, tell them to call back,

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Speaker 5: Tell them to call back. They're on the road campaigning.

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Speaker 5: They wanted to call in together, so we will get

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Speaker 5: him back. But you heard Speaker of the House Mike

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Speaker 5: Johnson there. And again the fact that we have the

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Speaker 5: President calling in this morning, calling in this evening, getting

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Speaker 5: awareness out that this race is taking place. It is

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Speaker 5: a non traditional time.

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Speaker 1: Again. Election day is tomorrow in this district, and.

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Speaker 5: They got the President, They've got the Speaker in the

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Speaker 5: district going all over the place today. Awareness is probably

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Speaker 5: the most important part here. Sometimes you have to worry

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Speaker 5: about getting out the undecided voters. That's often how you

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Speaker 5: win swing districts. This is a Republican district. We just

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Speaker 5: have to make people aware that this election is taking

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Speaker 5: And that's a challenge that's a little bit different. And

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Speaker 5: Democrats are gambling on their crazy cat lady contingent to

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Speaker 5: continue to show up. Speaker of the House Mike Johnson

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Speaker 5: back with us. Now, big picture, I'm in this district,

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Speaker 5: Mistric Speaker, I'm going to get out and vote. I

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Speaker 5: want everybody in Tennessee seven to get out and support

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Speaker 5: Matt van Epps. Why is the president involved? Why are

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Speaker 5: you involved? Why is this district so important?

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Speaker 3: Well, this district is really does count for the whole country.

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Speaker 3: You know, I've presided over some of the slimmest majorities,

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Speaker 3: delivered huge despite that, but it illustrates the importance. I mean,

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Speaker 3: every single seat matters, and that's why we're so happy

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Let's uh, let's bring in uh the future congressman. I

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Speaker 5: believe he'll be elected tomorrow. Matt van Apps. What are

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Speaker 5: you seeing in terms of turnout and if people are

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Speaker 5: not aware, if they're in this district, Uh, Matt, what

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Speaker 5: would you tell them they need to do to do?

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Speaker 5: How do you find out because it's still a new district,

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Speaker 5: how do you find out if you, like me, are

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Speaker 6: Now, the information is on our website, Matt Fortn dot

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Speaker 6: com Matt f o r TN dot com. We've got

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Speaker 6: all the election information. Folks can find out where their

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Speaker 6: polling location is. Links to the Secretary of State's website,

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Speaker 6: So if they go to Matt Fortn dot com, they'll

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Speaker 6: get that information. We are up right now and we're

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Speaker 6: be an issue, and we ask people just to be safe,

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Speaker 1: Matt. Why is it that whenever I am perusing as

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Speaker 1: one does, not just online, but occasionally I'll even go

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Speaker 1: the television world like MS now formerly known as MSNBC,

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Speaker 1: they seem very focused on this race and really want

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Speaker 1: this seat from you what's going on. It's like this

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Speaker 1: is the biggest thing that they've seen since election day.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's the only country, it's the only race going

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Speaker 6: right now in the country. And the Democrats are throwing

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Speaker 6: They've have Jasmine Crockett and a bunch of the far

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Speaker 6: that we have to reject. And we'll do that when

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Speaker 6: folks get out and vote for us tomorrow. I mean,

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Speaker 6: you know, my opponent has been endorsed by the Democratic

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Speaker 6: Socialists of America once transgender surgery for minors without parental consent,

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Speaker 6: wants to raise our taxes, new taxes that will skyrocket

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Speaker 6: our inflation, and that's to pay for the socialist agenda.

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Speaker 6: We cannot let that happen. And when folks join our team,

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Speaker 6: when all the Republicans, all of the freedom loving Americans

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Speaker 6: get out in the Tennessee seventh Congressional District tomorrow and

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Speaker 6: vote for us, we'll en sure that we win and

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Speaker 6: we drive America first forward.

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Speaker 5: They were telling me guys that you guys have a

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Speaker 5: unique connection to the Army, Navy game, which is coming

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Speaker 5: up soon. I know the President I saw will be there,

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Speaker 5: Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, and also I believe

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Speaker 5: the next congressman from the seventh District of Tennessee, my Congressman,

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Speaker 5: Matt Van Epps, starting tomorrow, I hope. What is that

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Speaker 5: connection in Army Navy? What's your bet here?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I'm going to be with the resident in

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Speaker 4: the suite.

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Speaker 3: My son is a sophomore at the Naval Academy, but

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Speaker 3: Matt here is an Army ranger and he's a West

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Speaker 3: and I are going to disagree on. Guys, I'm going

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Speaker 3: say go Army beat Navy.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's going to be an awesome event. I'm excited

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Speaker 5: the President's going to be there. Speaking of which, I

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Speaker 5: don't know if you've weighed in on this. Speaker at

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Speaker 5: the House of Mike Johnson, Lane Kiffin. I bet Buck

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Speaker 5: has even seen this. It swept the nation. Lane Kiffin

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Speaker 5: has left the old Miss Rebels. He is now the

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Speaker 5: LSU head football coach. He's being introduced this afternoon. Huge

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Speaker 5: story there. What's your take on that as one of

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Speaker 5: the post pressing issues in the state of Louisiana for sure.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'm a double alum from LSU undergrad

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Speaker 3: I told my governor and the president of the Board

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Speaker 3: of Supervisor down there, do I need to lobby Kiffin?

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Speaker 3: Do I need the lobby Kiffin?

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Speaker 4: And they said no, we think we got it.

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Speaker 3: But we'll call you in if necessary. It's a good

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Speaker 3: choice for him. LSU, as you know, is a premiere program.

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Speaker 3: We should be in the national championship every year.

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Speaker 4: Guys.

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Speaker 3: I used to think Speaker of the House is the

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Speaker 3: most stressful job in the world, but it's really sec

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Speaker 3: football coach. You know that you gotta win every Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Every Saturday it's on the line. So best wishes to him.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be great in co Tigers.

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Speaker 5: We've got uh let's come back to the Tennessee seventh

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Speaker 5: there and I know we had you on last week,

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Speaker 5: Matt van Apps. Can you tell everybody out there give

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Speaker 5: us a rough idea of the communities in this district,

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Speaker 5: because again a lot of people may not know and

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Speaker 5: Republicans have to battle Democrats who are gonna show up

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Speaker 5: no matter what the race is. They show up in

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Speaker 5: these special elections and big numbers. We've got to make

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Speaker 5: sure our people know about this race tomorrow and also

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Speaker 5: know if they're in the district.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 6: And so we've got we've got fourteen counties and it stretches.

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Speaker 6: We've got downtown Nashville. I love Nashville, by the way.

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Speaker 6: I love country music and you know it. And it

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Speaker 6: stretches up to where Fort Campbell is Clarksville. I lived

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Speaker 6: the one sixties Special Operations Aviation Regiment. Montgomery County is

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Speaker 6: a great county. We've got part of Williamson down to

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Speaker 6: County and that will be top of our list. Hardworking families,

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Speaker 1: What is the craziest stuff that people should know in

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Speaker 1: your district about your opponent? Afton? I know you have

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Speaker 1: a lot to draw on here. Some of the quotes

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Speaker 1: But in terms of positions, in terms of what she represents,

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Speaker 1: if you were to give me a top three Afton

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Speaker 4: Sure.

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Speaker 6: Well, in the you know, I alluded to the fact that,

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Speaker 6: you know, she's saying that she hates Nashville, the you know,

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Speaker 6: part of the district that she wants to represent. But

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Speaker 6: it goes much further than that. She wants to defund

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Speaker 6: the police. There's a whole anti law enforcement bucket. She

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Speaker 6: She was out as a sitting state legislator filming herself

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Speaker 6: is just unbelievable. It's disqualifying. So there's a whole bucket there.

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Speaker 6: She wants transgender surgery for minors without parental consent, believes

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Speaker 6: And I think the other piece too is she wants

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Speaker 6: that will skyrocket our cost of living. They're just policies

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Speaker 6: that are not good and don't make sense for the

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Speaker 6: Tennessee seventh Congressional district. They don't make sense for Tennessee

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Speaker 6: or America.

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Speaker 5: Do you have a sense You mentioned that I don't

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Speaker 5: know how good a data you guys get on who's

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Speaker 5: turning out. For instance, you can join me tomorrow and

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Speaker 5: go vote on election day. Do you have a sense

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Speaker 5: on how the numbers look on the early voting? You

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Speaker 5: mentioned that you feel confident. What kind of data do

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Speaker 5: you have out there? Obviously we want everybody showing up

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Speaker 5: on election day in huge numbers, making sure this crazy

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Speaker 5: chick Afton Bain isn't elected in Tennessee seven. But what

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Speaker 5: kind of data have you seen on early turnouts so far?

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Speaker 5: Do you have access to that info?

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Speaker 6: We do, We've got some some polling data and we're up,

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Speaker 6: but we want to be up by a lot. And

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Speaker 6: that's what happens when people put on the jersey, get

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Speaker 6: on the field tomorrow and go and vote and we'll

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Speaker 7: Listen Tim Walls, and you called him of what many

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Speaker 1: Do you stand by that claim of Callington Walls retarded? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: So this has turned into a big story, and even

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Speaker 1: Well, yes, and it's also a population that in many

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Speaker 5: We'll talk about this more when we come back, because

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Speaker 1: Right, welcome back in here to clan Buck. This is

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Speaker 1: just saying that Tim Walls was what a shock, asleep

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Speaker 5: the smartest people of other countries. I think bringing them

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Speaker 5: here and allowing American ingenuity to combine with their hard

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Speaker 5: work and their meritocracy, that's a good thing for the country.

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Speaker 1: I buy into that.

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Speaker 5: But the idea that we have low skilled, low wage

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Speaker 5: people from countries that don't have any sort of connection

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Speaker 5: at all, I think this is really what this about

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Speaker 5: buck Western civilization in general, that don't have any commitment

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Speaker 5: to shared civilizational aspects that have basically dragged us out

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Speaker 5: of a desolate his story into modern wealth and prominence.

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Speaker 5: If you're not embracing Western civilization, why should.

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Speaker 1: We have you here?

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Speaker 5: And I think that's a real question that's getting asked.

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Speaker 5: And I think the difference is people say, well, what

449
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Speaker 5: happened with Ellis Island and all those things. Most of

450
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Speaker 5: the people who came in through Ellis Island, they were

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Speaker 5: from Italy, they were from Germany, they were from Ireland.

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Speaker 5: They had a commitment to the ideals of Western civilization

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Speaker 5: in a way that a lot of the people were

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Speaker 5: bringing in today do not. In fact, many of them

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Speaker 5: reject Western civilization as a good thing.

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Speaker 1: And also, thirty percent of the people who came through

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Speaker 1: Ellis Island went home because there was no welfare state,

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Speaker 1: because there was no office to go to where you

459
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Speaker 1: could say, hey, just start giving me my free stuff.

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Speaker 1: Where's my free housing, where's my free food and healthcare?

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Speaker 1: Where's all my free stuff? There was no office of

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Speaker 1: free stuff back then, And so some people realize that

463
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Speaker 1: it's actually really hard to make it in this country.

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Speaker 1: Yes there's opportunity, but opportunity comes with risk and cost.

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Speaker 1: And they went home. They went back to their country

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Speaker 1: of origin. At a time when the journey here was

467
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Speaker 1: our juice expensive and difficult, we don't have that anymore

468
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Speaker 1: because we've become the world soup kitchen, and effectively increasingly

469
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Speaker 1: we are like an economic zone for people who just

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Speaker 1: want to live at the expense of everybody else. And

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Speaker 1: that's a huge problem. And this is what has really

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Speaker 1: turned I think the mindset of the American people right now,

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Speaker 1: Clay against so much of this. Our generosity as a people,

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Speaker 1: as Americans has been exploited and mocked by the actions

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Speaker 1: of people who have come here claiming fake asylum in

476
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Speaker 1: huge numbers when they cross our border, illegally, scamming our

477
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Speaker 1: immigration system in every way possible, playing all these different

478
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Speaker 1: games to get access to resources, resources that are taken

479
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Speaker 1: from all of you and taken out of your paycheck.

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Speaker 1: If you are an American listening to this who pays

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Speaker 1: to time, which I know most of you are, that

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Speaker 1: money is taken from you and given to others, and

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Speaker 1: the scams need to stop. Other countries would not put

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Speaker 1: up with this at all. And we just have to

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Speaker 1: be at a place where we can have honest conversations like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: if we're gonna have a big problem with the Somali

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Speaker 1: community stealing from Americans, we need to look at how

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Speaker 1: many more Somalus you want in the American family through

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Speaker 1: our immigration system. This is just the way it has

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Speaker 1: to be.

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Speaker 5: I just I look at it and say if you

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Speaker 5: are coming in and you are immediately going on welfare

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Speaker 5: and support, you shouldn't be admitted to this country. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's actually a violation of immigrant that's an a violation

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Speaker 5: of immigration law Clay.

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Speaker 1: It's just not enforced. You are not allowed to immigrate

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Speaker 1: to this country and become a public charge and get

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Speaker 1: any public benefits. But states like California and New York

499
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Speaker 1: they do it at the state level. They com mingle

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Speaker 1: federal funds. So it's a lot like the whole thing

501
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Speaker 1: is a lie. We're told, oh, don't worry, we won't

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Speaker 1: have people who are welfare cases coming here, tomes of

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Speaker 1: welfare cases. Fifty five percent of immigrant households get welfare.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that to me should be a non

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Speaker 5: starter on space and I'm sure most of you out

506
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Speaker 5: there listening are nodding along. We take care of people

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Speaker 5: as best we can who are citizens of this country,

508
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 5: but people who are not citizens of this country are

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Speaker 5: coming in and they are taking away benefits that would

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Speaker 5: otherwise be going to citizens. They're frankly, we're thirty eight

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Speaker 5: trillion dollars in debt. They are helping to run up

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Speaker 5: the national debt in a significant way. I just I

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Speaker 5: don't even look at this as a remotely partisan related question.

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Speaker 5: If you told me right now, I run a company. Hey,

515
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Speaker 5: if you're going to hire these people, they're gonna cost

516
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Speaker 5: you money and they're not gonna make you any money,

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Speaker 5: would you bring them into your company? My answer would

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Speaker 5: be no. I don't see this as a difficult call.

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Speaker 5: We should run the country like a company when it

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Speaker 5: comes to immigration. Are we bringing in people who are

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Speaker 5: net benefits to the country, that are going to be

522
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Speaker 5: huge job creators, that are going to be huge access

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Speaker 5: to this country. If the answer is yes, I want

524
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Speaker 5: them here, right, that's a meritocratic system.

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Speaker 1: If we get the most.

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Speaker 5: Brilliant minds around the world and they want to come

527
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Speaker 5: here and create jobs and have better outcomes than they

528
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Speaker 5: could in their country, that's what we should be doing.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the intellectual first round draft picks of the world.

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Speaker 5: I want them here. But people who are going to steal,

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Speaker 5: and people who are going to be wards of the state,

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Speaker 5: and people with no substantial educational background and value, I

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Speaker 5: just I don't see in any way how this is

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Speaker 5: beneficial to the United States.

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Speaker 1: And again I go.

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Speaker 5: Back to culture, the older I get buck the more

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Speaker 5: I'm convinced that culture determines everything. The culture that you create,

538
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Speaker 5: whether it's in your company, whether it's in your state,

539
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 5: whether it's in your country, dictates the outcome that you're

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Speaker 5: going to get. One of my favorite quotes from a

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Speaker 5: coach is we recruit our problem. United States is recruiting

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Speaker 5: our problems. If you go out and you bring in

543
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Speaker 5: people with bad culture and bad backgrounds, they're not going to.

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Speaker 1: Be net benefits to the country.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is just very basic stuff for anybody

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Speaker 5: who's ever been involved in management at all. If you

547
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 5: bring in toxic employees, you create a toxic culture inside

548
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Speaker 5: of your company, inside of your workplace. If we're bringing

549
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 5: in toxicity, we're creating a more toxic environment than would

550
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Speaker 5: otherwise exist in the United States, particularly when it's not

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Speaker 5: committed to basic Western values of civilization that have propelled

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Speaker 5: us to the success that we have today.

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Speaker 1: We actually have the opposite of what you're talking about,

554
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Speaker 1: which is we have a system where we take as

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Speaker 1: many people from the Third World, from poor countries, through

556
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Speaker 1: chain migration, through asylum scams, through all of this. That's

557
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Speaker 1: a huge portion of our immigration system, legal and illegal,

558
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Speaker 1: and one of the challenges that I think now the

559
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Speaker 1: country is willing to finally look at and be honest

560
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Speaker 1: about it. There are going to be some countries that

561
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Speaker 1: are predominantly non white countries where you're not going to

562
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Speaker 1: take a lot of immigrants because the objective criteria that

563
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Speaker 1: you have set for immigrants will not be met by

564
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Speaker 1: people from those countries. And that has not been the

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Speaker 1: case in America for a long time. We've been taking

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Speaker 1: whatever bring us your war torn, your impoverished, your illiterate,

567
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Speaker 1: and your culturally backwards. That has become the American immigration

568
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Speaker 1: policy de facto for decades.

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Speaker 5: Now, and the consequences are becoming clear. And I think

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Speaker 5: President Trump saying, hey, let's pause. And this is not

571
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Speaker 5: new this you know, if you're a student of history.

572
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Speaker 5: One hundred years ago, people said, hey, I think we've

573
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Speaker 5: had too much immigration in the United States. We need

574
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Speaker 5: to pause and allow what's already happened to occur, to

575
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Speaker 5: allow that sort of melting pot to occur. The problem is, again,

576
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Speaker 5: I come back to culture. If you don't have similar

577
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Speaker 5: cultural values to someone else and you try to come

578
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 5: to this country, you're going to import the culture of

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Speaker 5: the Third world asposed to the culture of Western civilization.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think that's good.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sorry, I just I look around that

582
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Speaker 5: I say, you know, I think one of the great

583
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 5: lies that many of us were taught was diversity is

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Speaker 5: our strength. I actually don't think diversity is a strength.

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Speaker 5: Diversity of thought can be a strength if you apply it,

586
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 5: and the best ideas win, but just diversity itself as

587
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 5: somehow a positive outcome or goal. Diversity of thought is

588
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Speaker 5: the only diversity that matters. There's also zero historical precedent

589
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Speaker 5: or basis to.

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Speaker 1: Believe that having a huge number of people in a

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Speaker 1: country not from that country, speaking three hundred different languages,

592
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Speaker 1: of all different religions, of all different you know, political

593
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Speaker 1: belief systems is going to result in a cohesive nation state. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: over the long run. Zero, there's just zero. In fact,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of evidence. All the historical evidence is

596
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: in the other director doesn't work, which is it doesn't work.

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00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: This is not a good idea. So now we're starting

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Speaker 1: to have to face up to this as a country.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got to wear I got to wear

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Speaker 1: drawstring sweatpants without thinking twice about it, put on my

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Speaker 1: new balances. This guy, though, I think, oh there, he

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Speaker 1: little bit like maybe I don't know if there's an

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Speaker 1: American sumo wrestling team, but he's headed for it right now. Man,

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Speaker 1: He's he's a thick fellow. His mom's a he's not

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Speaker 1: missing meals. He's not missing meals. Nope.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, coming out of Thanksgiving, there's probably

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Speaker 5: quite a few of you that didn't miss meals.

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Speaker 1: He put on five pounds. I'm a little I'm a

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Speaker 1: little disappointed in myself.

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Speaker 5: Uh, it is a it is a lot to be uh,

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Speaker 5: to be recovering from it. Super super cute, happy baby

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Speaker 5: and you can go see the super cute happy baby

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Speaker 5: at our YouTube channel. Does that sound like bribery, Yes,

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Speaker 5: of course that's what it is. If you like happy baby, smiling,

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Speaker 5: gurgling and chubby, happy babies, then you will check it

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Speaker 5: out on our YouTube channeling search out my named Clay Travishing,

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Speaker 5: search out Buck Sexton. By the way, we had Caroline

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Speaker 5: Levitt is right now doing a White House press briefing

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Speaker 5: and we will update you on everything having to do

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Speaker 5: with with that coming up soon. Taking questions or wide

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Speaker 5: variety of topics, and again we come back to the

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Speaker 5: top of the next hour, we'll dive into the Thanksgiving

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Speaker 5: weekend that was and the upcoming seventh Congressional district race

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Speaker 5: as well buck as Venezuela, Ukraine and Russia. But and

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Speaker 5: I don't know about you, I've got a big, big

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Speaker 5: evening plans here. I'm watching Stranger Things season five.

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Speaker 1: It's out.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what percentage of our audience out there

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Speaker 5: has kids. Wife has already got the meal set up.

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Speaker 5: Boys are excited. So when this guy gets a little

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Speaker 5: bit older, I bet he's gonna like Stranger Things like

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Speaker 5: most young kids have all over the country, throwback to.

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Speaker 1: The nineteen eighties. He's very impressed with the lane Kiffin contract,

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Speaker 1: by the way, told me over the weekend.

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Speaker 5: By the way, yeah, your wife a graduate of the

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Speaker 5: University of Florida. Lane Kiffin gave him the Heisman. He

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Speaker 5: said no to the Gators, didn't want to be their coach.

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Speaker 5: So this is a tough This is a tough hit

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Speaker 5: for the University of Florida. Go subscribe to the podcast,

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Speaker 5: to the podcast, of course, but also the YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: We love all of you guys. We will be back.

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Speaker 5: We're going to talk about craziness around Thanksgiving with Jonathan Albert,

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Speaker 5: Trump arrangement syndrome and more.

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