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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: We are live from St. Vincent College here in beautiful

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Speaker 1: La Robe, Pennsylvania. The Steelers back on the practice field today.

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Speaker 1: Uh threat of rain, because why wouldn't there be, because

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Speaker 1: that's pretty much you know, that's the norm here every

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Speaker 1: single day, seemingly. But Steelers on the practice field getting

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Speaker 1: ready to U have training camp practice. This is like

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Speaker 1: number day fifteen or something fifteen or so. That makes sense. Um,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like the rain supposed to hold off, and

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Speaker 1: you know, get that in under practice hopefully. Who knows

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Speaker 1: around here. It's been a little rough that way, but

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Speaker 1: coming off a really fun and exciting preseason game. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you and I haven't had chance to chat about that much.

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Speaker 1: I did get to hear you on the postgame show

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Speaker 1: of the other day. Yeah, my man West and I

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Speaker 1: started off and then pursued and I brought it on home.

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Speaker 1: That'll be the case with the last two as well.

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Speaker 1: Feel free to call in. That's always fun. Can I

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Speaker 1: call him from Jacksonville? But good stuff. I mean, I honestly,

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Speaker 1: I can't remember a more entertaining, exciting preseason game. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the crowd was great. Um, Seattle is a great opponent

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Speaker 1: for them because absolutely because they stink, Because they were

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Speaker 1: both going through a both teams looking for starting quarterback play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what I say is there was five quarterbacks that

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Speaker 1: took snaps in that game, all of whom are NFL quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: you know, so they got everybody into the huddle. There

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Speaker 1: was no nonsense. And you'd rather play Seattle in the

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Speaker 1: preseason than you would the Rams, you know, were playing anybody, right,

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Speaker 1: right right, I mean, so beating Seattle is a bigger

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Speaker 1: accomplishment than beating just about any other team. You know,

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Speaker 1: they're playing their number one OH line and working on

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Speaker 1: things out as well. And yeah they have some stars

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Speaker 1: DK mccaffeine, guys like that that didn't play. But um,

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Speaker 1: they came to play, you know, they weren't just going

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Speaker 1: through the motions. And I thought the Steelers played quite well.

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Speaker 1: And there's a ton of things to talk about, and

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks at the top of the list and Pickens

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Speaker 1: and um, some concerns too. Though it's not all rosy no,

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Speaker 1: not all rosy, but let's talk about the rosy stuff first. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there was, first of all, the quarterback play that part

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Speaker 1: of the three of them combined to go twenty six

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Speaker 1: of thirty seven for two four yards uh four touchdown passes,

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Speaker 1: no interceptions, Yeah, including a game winner and a butte

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Speaker 1: by Rudolph the pickens. I mean, so there was some

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Speaker 1: highlights there too. I thought all three of them looked

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Speaker 1: very comfortable. Um had a nice command of things and

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Speaker 1: you know, all too often in a preseason game, to

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Speaker 1: your point about you know, the professional quarterbacks, you see

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Speaker 1: guys up at the huddle on the clocks one, I

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Speaker 1: gotta call time out because we didn't get them up

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Speaker 1: in the right and I don't know what all I do.

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Speaker 1: There was none of that, right, That's what That's what

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Speaker 1: I liked about. It was as preseason games go, that's

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Speaker 1: a high quality one, especially for a week one. And again,

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Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks looked like they belong, including Seattle's guys Um.

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Speaker 1: That was one of the reasons why Mike pursued and

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Speaker 1: I did Tim Benzo on the pregame, the pre pregame

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Speaker 1: show that I did with him, took the under in

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Speaker 1: that game, and I'm like, no, take the over because

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be five NFL quarterbacks to play in this

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Speaker 1: game exactly. And I was really impressed with Pickett Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, I thought he handled himself extremely well, first

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Speaker 1: time in an NFL stadium and all those things, and

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Speaker 1: you know, pulled out the win at the end, great,

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Speaker 1: made some throws. Trabisky looked very much in command. Um,

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Speaker 1: Rudolph was fine. I don't understand why the fans are

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Speaker 1: so down on him. I don't quite understand or condone that.

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Speaker 1: But he's an NFL player as well. So Um, I

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Speaker 1: hadn't many nit picks with the quarterbacks. No, And I

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Speaker 1: thought overall, uh, continuing on that offensive side of things,

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Speaker 1: I thought the offensive line overall played pretty well open,

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Speaker 1: especially in the run game. You know, the past game

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Speaker 1: with there were some guys that came three a couple

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Speaker 1: got you got to see the quarterback escapability there as well.

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Speaker 1: On a couple of times that they did come through,

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Speaker 1: it's like, okay, we're just gonna run out of this stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a second, because I think you wrote something along these lines,

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Speaker 1: so I kind of want to steal your thunder a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I saw that, I saw the lines. I

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Speaker 1: haven't read it yet, but I want to give Matt

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Speaker 1: Canadas some credit too, because I don't think it's an accident.

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Speaker 1: The three quarterbacks go into this game and all three

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Speaker 1: if if, if, if you're three for three on that,

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Speaker 1: it's probably not an accident. You know that the coach

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Speaker 1: did some good things. And then I had a little

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Speaker 1: conversation with with Mike and the post game show about

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Speaker 1: they did some motion and the offense looked different than

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Speaker 1: the quarterback moved comp aired to last year. But I

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Speaker 1: don't think they did much compared to what we've seen

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Speaker 1: on the practice field, you know what I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: saving a lot. I thought to Damn Moore after the game,

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Speaker 1: and I, you know, I brought that up, as you know,

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Speaker 1: I said, but there's still a lot more more there

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Speaker 1: on the Boni's like absolutely, and you know, he said, well,

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Speaker 1: what does some of that the pre snap motion and

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Speaker 1: things of that nature do for you for you guys,

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Speaker 1: particularly in the run game. That's where he's you know,

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Speaker 1: that's where it shows up. He said, Look it he creates.

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Speaker 1: It creates some better angles for us. We get the

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Speaker 1: linebackers moving around a little bit, things that we've talked

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Speaker 1: about on the show, and he's like, yeah, helps us

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Speaker 1: it didn't seem to matter who they had in their

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Speaker 1: running the football. They were, which line was in there,

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Speaker 1: they were, they were being very effective running the football.

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Speaker 1: They were they were um in terms of scheme. If

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Speaker 1: that would have been the play calls last year, we

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Speaker 1: would have left that game going Wow. They used more motion,

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Speaker 1: a lot more play action and under center than we're

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Speaker 1: used to. But compared to what's coming, folks, just wait,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's gonna be a lot more different types

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Speaker 1: of motion. And I'm not avoiding your conversation about the

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Speaker 1: old line. But on my right, but right checked in

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Speaker 1: the Hotel Knocked Out a podcast and for the first

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Speaker 1: time this year, I set up NFL game Pass because

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Speaker 1: I really I'm going to study this old line in

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Speaker 1: the next twenty four hours and probably right about it.

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Speaker 1: So on first glance and watching more on TV. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it against I've watched you know that's gonna happen from

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you're not gonna get a perfect

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Speaker 1: just doesn't happen anywhere in the league. And the beauty

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Speaker 1: one play that that you know, you saw Mason Rudolph

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Speaker 1: the mobility in the pocket I thought was was big.

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Speaker 1: couple of like Pickett's first completion was a rollout to

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Speaker 1: uh to j Sternberger on the quarterback waggle there. Um,

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Speaker 1: adept at doing that. That's why they're here, especially Trabisky

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Speaker 1: think that's all extremely encouraging, and we're gonna have this

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Speaker 1: We're on the back. So if you're running the ball

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Speaker 1: against him, you're running it against their guys. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: I mean I thought they played their number one OH line.

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Speaker 1: the last quarter of Steeler defense, I really don't have

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Speaker 1: people were kind of I saw a lot of reaction

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Speaker 1: that's why I think this week against Jacksonville. H You know,

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Speaker 1: I already talked to Larry Ogan Joe. He expects to

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Speaker 1: play this weekend, as does Tyson and Lulu umun't they can,

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Speaker 1: but or why you might see them a little bit,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe for a series, just to get them,

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Speaker 1: holding out too to at Well and Kieren Williams. I mean,

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Speaker 1: want to play those guys. You don't play the Jags

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Speaker 1: they don't ask Emma Smith to do that, you know

425
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, you know, so the special team

426
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,439
Speaker 1: thing is interesting in terms of conditioning and when they

427
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 1: ask you to do it. I mean, if you've been

428
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 1: on the field as a a safety for a four

429
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: team play drive and they're running down your throat and

430
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,880
Speaker 1: then you gotta go cover, you know, to go take

431
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 1: on special team duties, that could be hard on these guys.

432
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 1: So there are some challenges that they're testing the limits

433
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: of something, guys, because find out what they are, because

434
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get a chance maybe to find that

435
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 1: out in the regular season. This is a good time

436
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 1: to do it, h and like Warren today, do you

437
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 1: still have the same springing your step up today that

438
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 1: you did last week? At this time, after taking some

439
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: punishment and camp starting to drag on a little more,

440
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: you're still looking as good? You know? Can we can?

441
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 1: I then infer that two months from now you're still

442
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: gonna have a little bit more to you or you're

443
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: starting to show signs of weakness already with you know.

444
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: So that's kind of stuff these guys are looking for. Yeah, um,

445
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 1: just watching the quarterbacks go through things here today, Um,

446
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 1: I see Trubisky and then I see Rudolph, and then

447
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 1: I see Pickett, And I don't know if that's going

448
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 1: to be the the way that they do things that

449
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 1: that that is definitely the pecking order as they go

450
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: through drills here. Would that be how you you continue

451
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,199
Speaker 1: with things here, Matt? I think I would do. And

452
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that Mason Rudolph played poorly or

453
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: anything of the nature of that nature. I honestly don't

454
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 1: even care how he played. I would switch things up

455
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 1: exactly the same thing. I was thinking the same thing, like,

456
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 1: I just want to see what what Pickett looks like

457
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 1: with the two's yeah, I mean so Trivis. Contrary to

458
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 1: some popular belief, Trabisky has been the one basically the

459
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: second they signed him and ever since, you know, since

460
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 1: something this morning. Again, I'm driving out here today and

461
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 1: I'm listening to uh to a fantasy football show and

462
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,239
Speaker 1: they're talking about the Steelers quarterback position and they're like,

463
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: as they were talking about the rookies, how the rookies played,

464
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: and he said, this is pretty much how we thought

465
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 1: it was gonna be. It looks like it's gonna be.

466
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: You know, Trapisky is gonna start the season, but at

467
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 1: some point Rudolf or Picket's gonna replace him, and uh,

468
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: you know that, you know he's gonna end up starting

469
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: more games this year. I don't see it that way

470
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: at all. I don't think they see it that. I

471
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: don't think they do, right, I mean, I think Trabinsky

472
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 1: would have to well obviously would have to go really wrong.

473
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: And I think that Trabisky is the starter, you know, Yeah,

474
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't here. I don't think they're interested in playing

475
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 1: two or three different quarterbacks the games right now. It

476
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,719
Speaker 1: goes into it thinking that you know, um, however, and

477
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: I don't know about practice as much as this is

478
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: game two. Here, I think I would have Pickett play

479
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: with the twos or maybe here's the here's however he plays.

480
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: He plays the second half of that game on Saturday.

481
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: This week he plays with the twos, and you let

482
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: you let Rudolph play with the threes. And then the

483
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: last game Picket starts and maybe pay a ton, Yeah,

484
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 1: maybe the fourth quarters. Even he's the guy that needs

485
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: the most, the most work. Yeah, Jamisky has gotten the

486
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: most work and looks ready, and he'll get a little more.

487
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 1: But you want to make sure he's ready to go

488
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: for a game day and pick it. You got a

489
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: side project here. You know I would play him a

490
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: lot going forward in these two games. And there's only

491
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: what twenty minutes left the football, right, you know? I

492
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: asked Mason Rudolph last week on Thursday, UM, like, do

493
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: you believe you've gotten a fair shot at this whole thing?

494
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: And he says, well, I've I've gotten a shot. You know. Um,

495
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: that's why when you know, when people boo him, nobody

496
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: cares about fair. By the way, no nobody cares about fair.

497
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: Fair doesn't matter, It doesn't matter at all. He participation

498
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: rophis you know, right, here's the thing about you know,

499
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 1: when people are booing Mason Rudolph, I don't get it,

500
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: be because what has he done wrong? That's what I

501
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: said to was, I'm not sure what we have against

502
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: this guy. You know, why are we booing him? If

503
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: you want to cheer louder for Picket, that's fine, that's fine.

504
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 1: Glad that he's the most popular in the in the world.

505
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: But everybody in that stadium knew what the pecking order

506
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks was going to be. That like, going

507
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: into the game, right, and it wasn't like he threw

508
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: five picks and couldn't get out of his own way,

509
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: and they booed him when he came onto the field.

510
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: They booed him when he got sacked on the first play,

511
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: like that was his fault. You know, I don't understand

512
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: it that. I mean, I don't condone it. I don't

513
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: understand it, and I think it needs to stop, because

514
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: what has he done that people dislike him all of

515
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: a sudden As a matter of fact, I mean that's

516
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: just because he like one doesn't mean that dislike the other.

517
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: I think he's handled this whole situation extremely well with

518
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: great professionalism, mature professionalisms. He's never once said anything out

519
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: of out of you know, they told me they give

520
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 1: me a chance, or anything like that. There's been nothing

521
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 1: like that. Um, there was nothing the entire time. You know,

522
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger's with cruchaded him pretty consistently over the years,

523
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: even you know, kind of backhanded things. But yeah, you

524
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: never heard Mason say anything about that. Been a really

525
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: good teammate and worker, you know, right, I don't know

526
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: what we don't like about him. I don't understand that one.

527
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: But I don't get it. Other than that, I thought

528
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: the fans were awesome. I mean honestly, I thought that

529
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: the whole environment and the fans and the excitement in

530
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: the in the building, that was great to understand out all.

531
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: I thought that was great. But I don't get the

532
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: I don't get the Mason Rudolph just there's vitriol. Yeah right, Nevin,

533
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: what's he done wrong? Um? Yeah, I don't get it.

534
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: But you know that's neither here nor again. I don't

535
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: think Mason Rudolph is the answer. No, But I think

536
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: like the other four quarterbacks that played, he's an NFL

537
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: quarterback absolutely right. Legal. You know, there's the Seahawks could

538
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: do worse than that. Right, he was on par with

539
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: their two guys. I mean, you know that's and they're

540
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: one of those two is going to start the season presumably.

541
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: I assume that the two of them will play be

542
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: their only quarterbacks this year, right, which is scary in

543
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: its own right. And I thought the best throw in

544
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: the game was by Mason Rudolph. It was and it

545
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: was at throw too. You know. It wasn't a third

546
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: and third teen throw where you drop it back and

547
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: letting a fly. It wasn't a robotic I can't make mistakes.

548
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: Thought it was I'm gonna let the star go make

549
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: a play and put it in spot only he could

550
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: get it. And it's a really well thrown ball. Yeah,

551
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: So I don't get it. Um, but you know, fans

552
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: are gonna be fans, and that's that's. Yeah, they have

553
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: every right they're right. I'm not gonna say, hey, that

554
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: was that was completely classless and that I just don't

555
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily get it. But in terms of of

556
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: the things that you didn't like out of that game,

557
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: what what were some of the things that you didn't like.

558
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: My hunch is is when I watched the all twenty

559
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: two here and hopefully in the next twenty four hours.

560
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: I got a million things on my played between now

561
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: and then, including a night show stopped by sharkis tonight,

562
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: and UM, I'm betting I'm not gonna love the old

563
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: line play as much as first blush, particularly past protection. Um,

564
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: particularly James Daniels, because I have such high I hold

565
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: him at a different standard than Mason Cole, for example.

566
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I think Daniels could be a

567
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: really good player, and I'm starting to have concerns. I

568
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: wish they were better reports, better views of him in

569
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: the Steeler uniform. Um, I thought the tackles held up well,

570
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: but they each had a bad play or two. I

571
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: thought Haig looked really good as the third tackle. Just

572
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: sticking with the old line situation, Kendrith Green at times

573
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: kind of looked short armed and people got in on

574
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: him a little bit in protection. So the old line

575
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: in general is where I'm most worried about this team,

576
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: to be very honest. And then the other spot is

577
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: probably no surprise and unfortunate inside linebackers not named Miles Jack.

578
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: It's plain to me gets exposed in coverage time and again,

579
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: which can happen in today's game. I don't know you

580
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: can put him out there. Yeah, I mean, I I

581
00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 1: do use this. I mean and what we saw from

582
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: the offensive, Like there was a play that people put

583
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: out there of Devon Bush and it was a cutback run,

584
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: and you know, he he came, he comes crashing in

585
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: on the play. The plays everybody's really going to the right.

586
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: The running back comes in and cuts it back to

587
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: the left. Now there was the linebacker on the outside

588
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: of him, Delante. Scott just gets pancaked right in front

589
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: of Bush. Is the back is cutting back across the grain.

590
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 1: You see Scott get just get come flying in and

591
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: just get put on his back. And people are blaming

592
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: Bush for for that cutback run. I'm like, I'm assuming

593
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: Scott's supposed to have the backside responsibility there. I'm pretty

594
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: sure you shouldn't end up on the ground, and I

595
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: know you should end up on the ground on your back.

596
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: Not only that, but when he's getting blocked to his back,

597
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: he came through just as the back was starting to cut,

598
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: screening Bush off from the cutback, so he doesn't see it,

599
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: and then he has to get around that. The guys

600
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: the two guys laying on the ground and by the

601
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: time he does that, the you know, the run is

602
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: going down the field. So I have seen people put

603
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: that clip up there like Bush doesn't know what he's doing,

604
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: you know, gets I'm watching. I'm watching this guy go

605
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: through on skates and get landed planted on his back,

606
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: Like I'm pretty sure he would have backside responsibilities there.

607
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: You gotta get off that block. In that case, it

608
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: looked like Bush just got caught up in the trash.

609
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: And you know that happened now that happens too much

610
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: with him. It does happen too much of them. But

611
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: I would like to seem more positive from him. Um.

612
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: I still think there's not good enough recognition and you know, adjustments. Um.

613
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: I will say this as well. I would like see

614
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: more from Scott too. Yeah, a lot of people are

615
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: talking well about him, and I didn't see it in

616
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: this game. Having rewatched the game, Uh, there were a

617
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: couple of times where Bush could have gotten credit for

618
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:50,239
Speaker 1: at least assists on tackles and didn't and people, well,

619
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: he didn't have any. He didn't have any tackles in

620
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: that game. I didn't even notice the box. Yeah, don't

621
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: look at the box score. Yeah, I'm not and I'm

622
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: not trashing the the stat that job, but I sit

623
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: right in front of them during games, and so you know,

624
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: when there's when there are fifty bodies out there flying

625
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: around on the field. Sometimes that's why tackles aren't an

626
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: official statistic in the NFL. You guys get credited with

627
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,239
Speaker 1: tackles that weren't even on the field. That's just how

628
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: especially in a preseason game. Imagine, you know, trying to

629
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: do that job in a preseason game. Guys are coming

630
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: into out of the game like crazy. It's it's it's

631
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: almost impossible. I didn't know he wasn't credit without a tackle,

632
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: and there were two that I saw that he definitely

633
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: could have got a credit for at least and assist.

634
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: You know. But I am excited to watch him more

635
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Speaker 1: on All twenty two. But I I wanted to see

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Speaker 1: more from him. I worry more and more that I

637
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: don't know if I can put Splaine on the field.

638
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't do that. Yeah, I just can't.

639
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if it means more dime with only Jack

640
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: who looked great by the way, JACKO, I mean, I

641
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: am totally absolutely no problem with that. But I am

642
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Speaker 1: not pulling deaf of Bush out to put Robert Splaine

643
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Speaker 1: in the field. I'm just not doing well. I'm mean,

644
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: I might put Buddy or somebody else out there, because

645
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Speaker 1: I think everyone in the world's gonna pick on Splane

646
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: and I just don't think he's athletic enough to ever

647
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Speaker 1: overcome it. Yeah, I think that's just I think he's

648
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Speaker 1: you know, Okay, if you want to use him as

649
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: a run stopper at the goal line and things of

650
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: that nature or third down, I get it, but he

651
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: better be one of your best four or five special

652
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: teamers to really have value on the team because his

653
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: defensive stuff is not enough. You're gonna get picked onto

654
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: in today's NFL. Yeah, that's just the reality of it. Um.

655
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: And even if you're playing a team like the Browns,

656
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna show in the playoff game, you

657
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 1: know a couple of years ago where okay, you're you're

658
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: playing Robert Splane out there, They're just gonna get Jervis

659
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: Landry matched up on Robert Splaine that the other team

660
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: is or Hunt or Yeah, he's he's gonna get beat

661
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: by those guys time and time again, and I'm sure

662
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: the league already knows this. I mean that when he's

663
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: out there, they're gonna attack him. Um. Run defense is

664
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: the other thing people were really down on. But I

665
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: think we address that that. I'm not gonna call the

666
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: whole defense the same defense for sixty minutes, but I

667
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,479
Speaker 1: wanted to commend the tackling and the run defense of

668
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: the secondary. Yeah, I thought that good Norwood Spoon, you know,

669
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: came up and made some hits and one I know,

670
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: he got thinged up on. But I I thought their

671
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: support was excellent. I mean, some of course they weren't

672
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage or two yards behind the

673
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, but it's a group effort. And Steelers

674
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: front seven outside of Jack wasn't there, you know, you know,

675
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: amazingly enough, somebody wrote about this tackling in the secondary

676
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: last week some wise, some guy, you know, the stage

677
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: journalist who wouldn't been doing this a while. How tackling

678
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: in the secondary is as big a part of run

679
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: defense is the front seven. I mean, those guys gonna

680
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: be able to get people in the ground, and I

681
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: thought they did very well. And I did a very

682
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: good job on that right. So in general, I thought

683
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: some of the dudes in the secondary Pierre nor would

684
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: will Let had good games, you know, not not the stars,

685
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, but guys are gonna be on

686
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: this team and they're gonna play. Yeah, So I mean overall,

687
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: you know, not a bad first effort. We'll see one one. Yeah,

688
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: we'll see what it looks like again when they get

689
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: back on the field, uh, this weekend against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

690
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: I do think you've a challenge because everyone's you know,

691
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: Steeler Nations excited about it. Pick it, the Wan Pickens.

692
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: You know, everything's positive, great, it should be, but you

693
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: got another one. You know, the things happen pretty quick

694
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Speaker 1: around here. You've got to maintain that level of intensity.

695
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: That's why I bet there in pads today. You're only

696
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: here four more days and then you gotta go home

697
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: and take out the trash and feed the dog, and

698
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: you know, you can drift away from the where you've

699
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: been for the last couple of months. So that's what

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Speaker 1: Tomlin does so well, and that's a challenge he's gonna have,

701
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: is keeping these guys as motivated and as on the

702
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: same course, you know, on the tracks team getting ready

703
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: to do seven shots here. Yeah, we're gonna take a break.

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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lali. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN

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Speaker 1: nine seventy. We are live from St. Vincent College overlooking

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00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: the Steelers practice field here and we'll be back with

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Speaker 1: Moore right after this. He's the Drive with Dale Lolly

709
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 1: and Matt Williamson on Home of the Black and Gold

710
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. M I think he's in on that one.

711
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: He thought he got in on that one. I thought

712
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: he was sure. Defense. It looks like the defense held

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00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: up present. That's a little inside screen to uh, look

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Speaker 1: like fifteen there, right. I think so. Defense definitely won

715
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Speaker 1: seven shots. But a lot of these plays were pretty close.

716
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: It was a very competitive period there. First day. The

717
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: first play was a run by our guy, Jalen Warren. Uh,

718
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: he's just short, just short of the goal line. Looked

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00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: like Larry Ogunjobi and Terrell Edmonds with the stop there,

720
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Speaker 1: but a lot of guys involved in that stop. It

721
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: was a straight up the gut rune. He just couldn't

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Speaker 1: quite push the pole enough, you know. Right then on

723
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: second down, Uh, he had in completion to Zack Gentry.

724
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Speaker 1: But I thought, I thought, Trabinsky through a really nice

725
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: ball on that one where he kind of it was

726
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: a crossing pattern and the defensive back was kind of

727
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: in good position in front of him, so he kind

728
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: of threw it where Gentry could try to make an

729
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: adjustment behind him. There was nobody back in the back

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Speaker 1: corner there, and Gentry just couldn't get his head around

731
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Speaker 1: and get the get on the ball. But he was

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Speaker 1: the only one who was gonna catch that one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean from Trabinsky's point, you know, just isolating on

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Speaker 1: Trabinsky there, it looked like the protection held up pretty

735
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: well to three seconds or whatever, and that wasn't practice,

736
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: you know, yes, you know, and it was holding up well.

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Speaker 1: Then it came. Then the rush came through, as you

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Speaker 1: would expect with two or three guys in his face,

739
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: and not only was he retreating, you know, slowly, but

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00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: he was retreating to it towards the left sideline and

741
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: threw a ball, as you mentioned, to the corner of

742
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: the end zone where only his guy could get it,

743
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: and some of the I mean pickens aremoved through. One

744
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: of those guys might have hauled it in. But it

745
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 1: was a really well thrown ball. You know, Tramiskey did

746
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: his job so that I thought that was impressive. Yeah,

747
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: but that's a win for the defense. That's a win

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00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: for the defense. Then on third down, Uh, it was

749
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: complete completion the Deonte Johnson on a on a little

750
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: flag pattern to the right. But it looked like Johnson

751
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: did not get into the end zone when where he

752
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: ran out of bounds. I put that more on him

753
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: than I do. Uh, Mitch Drabinsky. There he put the

754
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: ball where and needed to beat. Deonte's gonna run that

755
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: a little deeper. Yeah, he runs it short of the

756
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: sticks and short of the end zone, and I wonder

757
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: if he adjusted once the ball was thrown that he

758
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: kind of come back thinking that that, you know, he

759
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: had to shield the d back a little bit. But

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Speaker 1: when it happened, I was the same as you. I

761
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: was like, I think Deante ran that a little short. Yeah.

762
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: So again it was a well thrown ball. Then on

763
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Speaker 1: third down or fourth the fourth shot for the first

764
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: team offense, Uh, make a Fitzpatrick came really nicely disguised

765
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: blitz and I came up with I just blew it up. Uh,

766
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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin counted that as a win for the offense.

767
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: I did not because that I thought that was gonna

768
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: be like sad to be on. Then about a second later,

769
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Speaker 1: somebody else came free. So that was definitely a defensive

770
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: wind to me. Yeah. Then Kenny Pickett got his shot

771
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: through a fade to Pat Friarmouth. Uh it looked like

772
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: that was over. Uh, Donovan Steiner, Uh, We're uh, just

773
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Speaker 1: just a nice ball. They're nice. Nice to play on

774
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Speaker 1: the football as well. By Firemouth that was a touchdown.

775
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: Then we saw Master Teague real quickly on the Firemouth.

776
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: You know, I think is important is the formation was

777
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: he was the ice so receiver to the left side,

778
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: you know, so he was not in the slot. He

779
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: was not a typical tight end alignment. He was singled

780
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: up over there in a safety like a stealer, and

781
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: they saw a lesser d back on him. You knew

782
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: you're getting one on one. I'm not sure that you're

783
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: gonna see a lot of that yet in Fireman's career.

784
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Speaker 1: And that's a real compliment, Like I mentioned Kelsey, like

785
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: that's you when when need do one by three sets

786
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: and the one is a tight end you're almost always

787
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: gonna get single or if they double him, your three

788
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: receivers to the other side, somebody super wide open. But

789
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: I mean that's a very common formation in this league

790
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Speaker 1: when you have a star receiving tight end. And that's

791
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: how they treated Friarmouth and they got a matchup they

792
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: liked and maybe a slight push off, but I don't

793
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Speaker 1: think the ref would ever called that that was touched on. Yeah. Uh,

794
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: mastertigue with the runaround left end on the On the

795
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: next one there, uh, he gets into the end zone

796
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: and basically untouched on that one. And then finally we

797
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: saw Mason Rudolph go in there. It's hard yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think he's kind of just a guy,

799
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Speaker 1: but he runs hard and he's given it. Always got

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Speaker 1: out here. Yeah. And then the final one was a

801
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: little inside a bubble screen to uh to uh throw

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00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: and catcher to Heyward two. He got stopped raded at

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00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: the goal line. Um. Yeah, there was some argument between

804
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: the offense and the defense whether he got in or not.

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00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: I think the defense won that one, So we're gonna

806
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: give it to the defense today. I'm going to count

807
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: that one five to two. I think team was counting. Yeah, yeah,

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00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: I got because he wanted that to go into the

809
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: last the last piece. But the score is a little

810
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: misleading because I thought it was a pretty even battle.

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Speaker 1: It really was the one that you know, and that

812
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: was the Steelers first team defense out there today. There

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00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: was no t J. Watt was out there, Cam Hayward

814
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: was out there, Larry Ogan Job was out there. So

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00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: he saw the guys that that really didn't play the

816
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: other night, uh in the exhibition games. So I think

817
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna see more of those guys here moving forward.

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Speaker 1: And I think you noted it whenever you're talking about

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Speaker 1: the seven shots, But Kenny's running with the twos right now. Yeah,

820
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean he's out there now. He replaced Robinsky on

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Speaker 1: the seven and seven drill. He replaced Robinsky on the

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Speaker 1: seven shots too, So he's running with the two's today

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Speaker 1: today right. What that means tomorrow, who knows. And we've

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Speaker 1: seen this visit the first time he's done it, what

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Speaker 1: they've done throughout throughout this training camp. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lali. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy. We have

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Speaker 1: live coverage here from Steelers training camp at same Fencon College.

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Speaker 1: Steelers doing some some not really a true seven seven here.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's the situation here where they have two

831
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Speaker 1: or three guys go out in pass patterns and they

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00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: kind of layer it with the with the defense in there,

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00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: kind of allowing guys to four on five type of thing. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and if I guess it would favor the defense here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's a lot of grass to cover two because

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Speaker 1: you're not I mean, you don't have as many, uh,

837
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: you got more defensive backs and linebackers on the field

838
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: than you do receivers. But like that last one, they

839
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: had a tight end of running back in a wide out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: only you know, I haven't studied it completely. That's just

841
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: a straight go ball and that that one's overthrown. Um.

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00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean you you see a lot of

843
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: these kind of competition periods out here. Mike Thomas does

844
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: a really nice job of of fostering these burying it

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Speaker 1: up as well. Did you see the matta that he

846
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: is putting a little bit on the line for these

847
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: guys in these situations this year. So the the group

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00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: that wins the competition periods for the day, um gets

849
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: better meals in the cafeteria? Did hear that? And I

850
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: hadn't heard that until I got to the uh the

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00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: pregame show the other day, and I guess somebody was

852
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: when of you guys in the pregame show was talking

853
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,959
Speaker 1: about it, and they even quoted him, and he said,

854
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: it's not quite to the He said, this is an

855
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: old trick, you know, it's not quite to the college

856
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: level where someone gets frank and Bean's and the other

857
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: one gets a lobster. Everyone's pretty well nourished here, don't

858
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: get me wrong, But the winners get a little something better,

859
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: you know. So that was pretty interesting to be just

860
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: a little more, you know, to put a little more

861
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: something on the line. I mean, just competition is great position.

862
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: That's just having pride on the line. Yeah, yeah, he's

863
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: he does a nice job of kind of. I mean,

864
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: Seattle was just in town and one of Carol's claimed

865
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: the fames at USC or Seattle is competition. Competition, competition,

866
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch, You're not guaranteed the starting running back job,

867
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, everyone's gonna compete, and he's had

868
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: a lot of success doing it. I think that no

869
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: matter whatever tactics you can use to you know, foster

870
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: that I think is really worth it out here. Yeah. Yeah,

871
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's the idea is. And I think

872
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: that's why, you know, when they come out and they play,

873
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, people say, weren't they weren't the Steelers scrimmaging

874
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: against somebody? They are? They're scrimmaging against the Steelers. Steelers

875
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: on Steelers. Yeah. I mean there's value to scrimmaging against

876
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: other teams too. I don't know what percentage of the

877
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: league did it this year or not. But there's also

878
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: logistics involved too. So I'm gonna travel and stay, you

879
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: weren't going to bring Seattle and to do that, you're

880
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: not gonna bring you know, going to go down to

881
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 1: Jacksonville this week and practice against them. That's that's right, right.

882
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: That's a lot to ask for teams to have, you know,

883
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: three and four hour flights to uh to do those

884
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: kind of things, food your camp all right, and it

885
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: waits and all that's I mean, what all you have

886
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: to do all the logistics of it or thank god,

887
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: I've never had to, Like I've covered when the Steelers

888
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: have gone to like Washington when they used to go

889
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 1: to Washington for a day at Frostburg things of that nature.

890
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: I remember when the Lions were here. It's not that

891
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: far at least, right, it's a car ride at least,

892
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, especially for us, you know, as opposed

893
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: to going you know, I've I've never had to do

894
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: it where they went somewhere and spent several days. It's

895
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: no fun. No, I think that would get old pretty

896
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: quick too. Yeah, I'm already. I mean, we're already staying

897
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: in a hotel now, so we don't we need to

898
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: do that too. Um, I don't where you put everybody

899
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: up here? I mean there's not there's not enough room. Yeah,

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00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: I mean you almost have to stay in Pittsburgh if

901
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: you're a team here coming here to practice against the

902
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: Steelers and this, you know, they just aren't picked by Manca. Yeah,

903
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: he's just smooth. So that drill was a total one

904
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: on one like that. I was watching the route. I

905
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: think it was Rudolf. It was Rudolf because he's the

906
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: closest one of the ball now. So they detached Hayward

907
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: in a one on one and they put Minka on

908
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 1: him in man which to me speaks volumes a couple

909
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: of things. Well, you and I have speculated for six

910
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: months now or four months now that Manca might do

911
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: some man coverage against Mark Andrews or you know whomever.

912
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: That Yeah, yeah, exactly Kelsey like we mentioned or something

913
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: like that, exactly what he did. But you don't waste

914
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: waste the wrong word, you don't. You don't waste a

915
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 1: rep of MINCA against some dudes. You're gonna cut Hayward.

916
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: Is Hayward belongs? Yeah? You know what I mean, Like, Okay,

917
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: you've been beaten up on the guys, we're gonna cut.

918
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: Let's see if you can play man coverage against Minca.

919
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: And it looked like he was open. I mean, I

920
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: guess I blame Rudolph because the one on one matchup

921
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: there's no getting fooled. But I would have released the

922
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: ball the exact same time Rudolph did and it jumped.

923
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: It just made a really nice play like swimming in

924
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: to get underneath the just because that's a special player

925
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: in right you know, Uh, do you blame Hayward at

926
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: all for that? Like you can't let the dB get

927
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: underneath you like that. I'd like to see it again.

928
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: But maybe a little um. I keep praising Hayward to

929
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: no end, but his lack of size shows up. I

930
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: mean whenever he lines up in line and tries to

931
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: block a defensive end edge guy. I think his lack

932
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: of length will always hurt him. And some of those

933
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: plays over the middle where catching radius isn't quite as big,

934
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: camp box people out quite as well. You know, if

935
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: it were Friar Muth or even gentry does make them

936
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: make that play. I don't know, but it had been harder,

937
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: you know, just to get around a big body. Yeah, no,

938
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. But yeah, so nice, nice athletic

939
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: play there by Well a guy who might be the

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00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: best bathlete. Yeah, he's pretty good at team. He's making

941
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: fit Patrick. We even seen a ton of them there

942
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: and we haven't seen a ton of them here, but

943
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: watching him jump that ball, it's like, oh yeah we

944
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 1: did last week. We did see a couple of plays

945
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: there where he walked up in the box and was

946
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: up at the line of scrimmage. You know, Cam Sutton

947
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: was was you know, back deep or you know somebody's

948
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: has been. It seems like they're thinking along those lines

949
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: that they can use him in some different ways. I

950
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: think it's pretty safe to say that his role will

951
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: expand and without question, absolutely he is Matt Williamson. I

952
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: am Dale Allett. You're listening to the Drive here on

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy. We're gonna take

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Speaker 1: a break here live from Steeler's training camp. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back with more right after this